I lowered my Fusion Ti using Steeda springs. I love the stance and handling improvement. But it was scraping when exiting a driveway and could barely clear parking bumps. That's why I bought tires that had a taller sidewall (by 0.4") and now it's perfect.
My 335i is lowered and I had an issue where i once hit a pothole and my undercarriage shield got bent in half and lifted the car unevenly up on one side. It made steering the car difficult and I had to quickly pull over and then try and rip the shield off by hand since I didn't have tools with me to take it off properly. I was lucky that no one got hurt and other than the shield there was no other damage. After that incident my driving drastically changed with the car. Lowering the car kinda kills the fun when you have to drive the car like you are in a one sided dodgeball match. The roads over here are terrible too. We had our roads newly repaved in November, then comes December and they do construction into the ground and destroyed the roads they just repaved. It is almost February they work was completed but they never fixed the road.
Yeah that's true. We went to Detroit today for the auto show and considering the roads, decided to take my wife's car (dodge avenger) which is more equipped for the road conditions.
Honestly once you feel satisfied with your set up as a driver, get someone to drive your car and you sit as a passenger. If its too bumpy, do adjustments to Find the sweet spot of comfort and performance as a driver and passenger.
I bought lowering springs and ebay "OEM" style replacement shocks.What I did to reduce the suspension play was add more subframe bracing and sway bars, which made the chassis much stiffer. The ride now feels like a middle between"firm" and "soft".Road bumps and uneven terrain don't feel as dramatic and I can actually drive through them at higher speeds.
Recently changed my stock M140i springs, by the way, this car is not available in the US sadly, you guys don’t know what you are missing with this little beast 🤘🏼 3 Litre/6 cylinder. 0-60mph 4.6 seconds. Anyway, I lowered it on Eibach pros, 25mm front and 20mm at the rear. Added some wheel spacers too to give the tyres a bit more width, as well as it looking more bad ass. The ride feels more connected but extremely harsh. So many potholes near to me. So I’ve gone with the M Performance Springs to compliment my adaptive dampers. They offer a 10-15mm drop. Car doesn’t look as mean but it’s a compromise for the poor road surface quality.
Regarding the pot holes and a lowered car, I totally feel you man! I drive a lowered E46, here in Belgium we have some of the worst roads in Europe. Had some nice Style 65 wheels from an M5 on my e46, tyres were nicely stretched also. Drove through a deep ass pothole, it instantly popped the tyre off the wheel and took a chunck out of my wheel.. another nice set of wheels lost to our crappy roads 😅
I bought Tein lowering springs. Installed them. And was on the phone with in hours ordering a set of KW coilovers. I jerked those horrible lowering springs out faster than you can imagine and likely sold them for what I paid for them. On the E46th M3 you can get mildly lowered Eibach springs and then go to the yellow Konis and that actually will work. I've never ridden in a car set up that way. Everyone I know I'm serious about handling and does any kind of track work at all just gets a really nice set of coilovers. Mine are fine in the street as far as comfort. BC coilovers are a great compromise if you don't track your car or only track it very rarely. They're less expensive and give you quite a very decent pride in the street. They handle very good. Not as good as the more expensive coilovers but I've used them and I can say I am a fan.
You youngins and your tuner instincts ! I got an '08 E85 Z4 3.0 SI with the "sport package" . Even though it's a 'facelift' I saw a Z4M and suddenly had to have that front bumper. So that was fun doing that mod, except for how low the 'fangs ' sit. Actually touching up fang damage (even with metal skid plates attached) is pretty much a Spring Clean Up task. I believe the Sport Suspension is slightly lower, and for me that's low enough. One thing older folks , driving a lowered car, or as low as my Zed is, have to deal with getting into and out of the thing while still maintaining some sense of decorum ! ps In case some think I'm a cantankerous old git, I think the tuner and modding culture is one of the best automotive trends.
So I went with the H&R sport lowering springs and to me its just the right amount of low. Im on the stock shocks and struts and Ive had them for about 6 months and I still love them. I do plan to get new shocks and struts in the future but for right now they're great. - 2006 325i
you have to take into account the most important thing: Kinematic performance of your suspension arms. They are set under a certain angle. Ideal sitting position is when inside joint of the suspension arm is sitting higher than the outside joint (check front view of modern open wheel race cars like F3 or F1, arms are not set horizontally). When you lower the car you mess things up. It might feel stiffer and you think it turns better but its ultimate kinematic performance is reduced. Do your research on how much you can lower your particular car without negatively affecting its performance.
If your taking the driveway and everything else head on your going to scrape Enter at a angle and you should be fine I been driving low cars for 11 years and that always worked for me
I am scraping my non lowered Honda Civic. I had a lowered VW Golf 3 vr6. I sold it after 3 month, because the Head Gasket was blown and the repair was too expensive for me. This Golf was ratteling like crazy when the Road was just a little bit bumpy. When it was a little more bumpy, it was also scraping and banging over the Road. If the head Gasket wouldn't have been blown then the Suspension or Axle would have been broken after a while. The Wheel bearings were already pretty loud as well.
im so glad i finally found someone talking about lowered cars in snow im about to put coilovers on my subie cool to see someone from mi im right next to flint
What can I say they're everywhere especially if your ride is slammed....I use to think Seattle was the only place with terrible roads. Not anymore thanks to you 👍😊
Having lower springs put on my daily (only) car this week but I'm not going over the top, the drop is only about 30mm, also getting new suitable KYB shocks fitted as the ones on there have done over 160,000 kays (100k miles) so hopefully I don't have any issues. We don't have snow issues here and the roads are not that bad where I normally drive. Right now I can only think of one possible car park I might have issues with, so will take it super slow the first time through.
I live in L.A. and lowering my car was a big mistake. The potholes and curbs have ripped my front bumper off and dented my mufflers... I will be going back to stock soon.
Beard is awesome -- makes you look like Hercules. When I had my 2005 E46, it was pretty low. Then the dealership replaced both of the broken rear springs and wow was it lifted up High. Lastly, roads in Ohio are like avoiding landmines (it's the weather).
I have a stock MSport e90, i pulled into a parking bay and heard a slight tell tale scrape of my bumper sliding over the kerb, no big deal i thought. I reversed carefully and i presume one of the screw heads that hold the under tray to bumper grabbed hold of the kerb, I heard a crack and the chin was split in two down the middle. You have got to be so careful with these kinda things, which is why iv decided not to lower my car lol.
Exactly true! So much goes into a proper lowered height that many don’t know about. I’ve had all 6 of my cars lowered with the proper suspension except the 335i. No need to lower that as it’s RWD + sport package as there isn’t any wheel gap space. Love the look with the speakers and the handling in stock form that I’m happy with 😀 Now my wife on the other hand doesn’t know how to drive a lowered car when she drives mine 🤣😬 Oh yeah...keep the beard 👍🏻
I have coilovers which I firmly believe in. But you do not have to slam the car with coilovers. You can actually raise it up to a reasonable height. I like it almost a full inch above most standard parking dividers. Three quarters of an inch will do as well. But in my area where we have a lot of road debris a full inch above Standard Parking divider is really where you want to be... no lower than that. Which I have had to do after ruining too many expensive bumpers.
I wish my 330i E90 was all wheel drive. Thanks again Justin, been thinking about lowering mine a little bit as well. Very handy tips and info I didn’t even consider.
Baton Rouge has some of the worst, that’s why I got a truck and lifted it, I don’t have to worry about scraping or parking, I can park it in the mud field beside the grocery store parking lot when no one else wants to, it’s great.
If they want to complain that the ride bumpy ima say get out and walk simple, unless you giving gas money or own the car I don't want to hear shit lmao
Great info, lowered my e63 M6 last summer and the ride definitely is rough. But dramatically gave it a more aggressive look. Haven’t done struts / shocks but it’s not my daily driver. Hope to meet up this spring, I’m in Royal Oak! Keep the beard but at that length, wanna keep her happy to! Keep up the great vids! And Tell your parents they did good, you’re a positive influence on your generation!
I have a 98 Camaro lowered an 1.5" and it SUCKS in Chicago (I have headers on it) I bought it lowered and it honestly sucks to drive unless I know the route. What sucks is I think 4th gen Camaros look hideous factory height. But I'm to the point where I want to go to factory height so I don't have to worry as much about driving it. As of now it's a DD not a race car so I think it makes sense to raise it. Im running stagg lowering springs and shocks (matching set) and the ride quality is awful. But after the headers install my clearance went from about 3" down to maybe 1". So what I'm trying to say is be aware of the modifications done to your car before lowering it or even after you lower it if you plan on daily driving it.
One of the better disclaimer videos on lowering your car. I lowered my 2014 Corolla 6MT with Eibach’s Pro Kit 1.3” keeping the stock struts. While I like the reduced fender gap and better cornering, I’m thinking of returning my suspension back to stock. I drive on some rough roads and it rides harsh. I also drive my kids around so they do feel the bumps more. Plus I’ve scraped my front bumpers, under belly, and tail pipe numerous times already keeping in mind that I’m lowered. I’ll miss that reduced fender gap and a more planted highway feel but the negatives are more in my case that the benefits from being lowered.
I'm thinking about returning mine to stock as well. The part that sucks is I bought it like that. I've only scraped twice but considering its a 2020 and I'm under financing for the next 5 years I don't really want to mess up anything. I'm pretty sure it already affects the warranty on the suspension because its lowered. I honestly didn't even realize it when I got it but I've never had a lowered car. I love the way it looks and feeling more planted highway feel as well but the cons just dont seem worth it to me.
In the south, if you lower your car, you may find yourself occasionally scraping roadkill off the underside of your car because it will no longer clear the dead squirrel or cat.
I'm in Chicago, and the potholes here are practically on par with Detroit... Garbage material, and crap contractors looking for repeat business with our tax dollars. I dig the new rims btw!
lowered my e92 M3 with Eibachs and had no issues. was stiffer which was nice but only lowered it like maybe .75 in the front and .5 in the rear. or maybe it was 1.0 in the front and .75 in the rear. cant remember now. basically sat at the same ride hight as my competition package M3. wanting to lower my 335 next but i kinda like the daily ability of it and on road trips. might not be the best move but we'll see. might give it a try and if i dont like it, can always go back to stock.
Yeah i agree over here in c.a. there are alot of pot holes and steap driveways my front lip on my ride is scraped because of these driveways and pot holes.
Hey Justin! Your videos are great and you have made me consider buying a used BMW for myself. I'm planning to buy a used car in the next month or two and I am considering a 2005 BMW X3 that I found in my city. It has 116,000 miles on it which I know is not an ideal mileage for buying a used BMW. However, it is in good condition and it has the main option that I really want which is a large sunroof/moonroof. Does anyone here have experience with an X3 of a similar age and if so please leave some feedback! Really appreciate it!
I have some KW V1s on my 06 330xi, I love the handling, but it's my daily driver and the pot holes/speed bumps here are horrendous, I guess when 90% of the population drives pickups and SUVs it's not really a problem. The car came with the coilovers, so for a daily driver I don't think I would ever go out and buy coilovers.
Yep researching lowering my e90 now! Thinking putting 19s before I do tho. Here in L.A. the roads are not that great either. Freeways are a mixed bag as especially some are notorious for trucking routes...nice patch for ~2m or so then turns to shit again. So yeah, at times I'm swerving or at least def keeping my eyes peeled.
And some rare cases like my car the BMW M3 E46 Edition, the ride actually is better with a good set of coilovers. The stock springs and Sachs shocks are terrible. My KW coilovers were pretty comfortable. BC coilovers are even more comfortable. I think the most comfortable are eibach Springs combined with koni yellow shocks. Not sure about that but I think that's the case in that order.
You didn't mention that lowering the BMW will have more negative camber all around? With new springs and shocks installed. Camber plates in front? Camber arms on the rear? Alignment. Longer/normal wear & tear on the tires?
I'm thinking about lowering my car but it cost more in long run speed bump passengers potholes tires wear out quickly. It's better just leave it to manufacturer specification I've been driving my car almost 12 years never had problems underneath my car.
shame you didnt reaserch how to jack your car properly, your bmw has a floating rear diff, you really should not jack the car up using your diff, use your sill jacking points or you will damage the bushes the diff is mounted on.
Patient Zero Hey buddy I'm in the uk and around Kirklees the roads are terrible. Bad potholes everywhere and poor repairs that don't last 2 minutes. Pretty bad here ☹
Yeah, can't justify going low and slow, at least not for my car. I like taking bumps and not having to worry too much about driveways - my car is stock height and it still scrapes due to the incline to get into the driveway.
I lowered my 03 Cobra this summer. My main problem is that because I have a convertible there is this extra X brace on the front that hangs LOW. That brace scrapes all the time. Drives me nuts. The factory Bilsteins don't work well with the springs. So I'm thinking of going with some adjustable Konis.
interesting, my car is the opposite. i have the fattest possible winter tires i can put on it and my e90 looks like a little tank. sits nice and wide. i can’t fathom the underneath damage from dropping it
Oh man, I just ordered the same setup as you've got with H&R sports springs and the b8 Bilstein shocks and am hoping like hell the ride doesn't get too stiff and hard. I had seen a couple other youtube videos and felt like most were saying the ride remained pretty stock and comfortable.....it's on my A7 daily driver and am not digging the idea of a harder feel...
i'm scrolling through videos click on this one and turns out you live right by where I used to live in macomb/ Clinton twp. I graduated from Chippewa valley thats kinda weird lmfao, moved down here to Florida best choice I've made! good video man thanks
I was dead at “you cant even consider them potholes anymore, its a chunk of the earths crust just missing.” Solid video man
I think another tip would be DONT LET OTHER PEOPLE DRIVE YOUR CAR UNLESS THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH LOW CARS
You right, you right you right you right
@@brionny8280 he right he right he right he right
Imagine lending your lowered car to someone who daily drives an SUV or Truck
Wouldn’t let anyone drive your car at all that’s why insurance asks
You let ppl drive ur whip 😂😂😂
there are 2 seasons in michigan, winter and road construction
same w Minnesota my friend !
Same with Pennsylvania!
@@kyzmn facts
You have winter AND road construction!? Us Aussies just have summer all year round!
Here in Ohio it's like driving on the moon..
I lowered my Fusion Ti using Steeda springs. I love the stance and handling improvement. But it was scraping when exiting a driveway and could barely clear parking bumps. That's why I bought tires that had a taller sidewall (by 0.4") and now it's perfect.
are there any cons on just getting bigger tires in general? lowering a bit and adding bigger tires i bet the fitment would look nice
Grow it. It’s a nice change.
My 335i is lowered and I had an issue where i once hit a pothole and my undercarriage shield got bent in half and lifted the car unevenly up on one side. It made steering the car difficult and I had to quickly pull over and then try and rip the shield off by hand since I didn't have tools with me to take it off properly. I was lucky that no one got hurt and other than the shield there was no other damage. After that incident my driving drastically changed with the car. Lowering the car kinda kills the fun when you have to drive the car like you are in a one sided dodgeball match.
The roads over here are terrible too. We had our roads newly repaved in November, then comes December and they do construction into the ground and destroyed the roads they just repaved. It is almost February they work was completed but they never fixed the road.
Yeah that's true. We went to Detroit today for the auto show and considering the roads, decided to take my wife's car (dodge avenger) which is more equipped for the road conditions.
Thats what you get for ruining such a nice car. Lowering is something you do to a Honda Civic. Not a BMW
Honestly once you feel satisfied with your set up as a driver, get someone to drive your car and you sit as a passenger. If its too bumpy, do adjustments to Find the sweet spot of comfort and performance as a driver and passenger.
I got tired of almost ripping my bumper off and now I reverse in everytime I park
I bought lowering springs and ebay "OEM" style replacement shocks.What I did to reduce the suspension play was add more subframe bracing and sway bars, which made the chassis much stiffer.
The ride now feels like a middle between"firm" and "soft".Road bumps and uneven terrain don't feel as dramatic and I can actually drive through them at higher speeds.
Recently changed my stock M140i springs, by the way, this car is not available in the US sadly, you guys don’t know what you are missing with this little beast 🤘🏼 3 Litre/6 cylinder. 0-60mph 4.6 seconds.
Anyway, I lowered it on Eibach pros, 25mm front and 20mm at the rear. Added some wheel spacers too to give the tyres a bit more width, as well as it looking more bad ass.
The ride feels more connected but extremely harsh. So many potholes near to me. So I’ve gone with the M Performance Springs to compliment my adaptive dampers. They offer a 10-15mm drop. Car doesn’t look as mean but it’s a compromise for the poor road surface quality.
Regarding the pot holes and a lowered car, I totally feel you man!
I drive a lowered E46, here in Belgium we have some of the worst roads in Europe.
Had some nice Style 65 wheels from an M5 on my e46, tyres were nicely stretched also.
Drove through a deep ass pothole, it instantly popped the tyre off the wheel and took a chunck out of my wheel.. another nice set of wheels lost to our crappy roads 😅
I bought Tein lowering springs. Installed them. And was on the phone with in hours ordering a set of KW coilovers.
I jerked those horrible lowering springs out faster than you can imagine and likely sold them for what I paid for them.
On the E46th M3 you can get mildly lowered Eibach springs and then go to the yellow Konis and that actually will work.
I've never ridden in a car set up that way. Everyone I know I'm serious about handling and does any kind of track work at all just gets a really nice set of coilovers.
Mine are fine in the street as far as comfort.
BC coilovers are a great compromise if you don't track your car or only track it very rarely. They're less expensive and give you quite a very decent pride in the street. They handle very good. Not as good as the more expensive coilovers but I've used them and I can say I am a fan.
i don’t even have my bmw anymore but still watch your vids 😎
I appreciate that!
Come to Chicago if you want to see some small craters in the road 😂
Keimanie Rush sometimes I apologize to the car if it's that bad.
123456bmx Yeah apologize and cry a little
LMAO usually I just yell profanity
EBG JoJo o_O wow not cool delete your comment
Killa Namikaze No...
You youngins and your tuner instincts !
I got an '08 E85 Z4 3.0 SI with the "sport package" .
Even though it's a 'facelift' I saw a Z4M and suddenly had to have that front bumper.
So that was fun doing that mod, except for how low the 'fangs ' sit.
Actually touching up fang damage (even with metal skid plates attached) is pretty much a Spring Clean Up task.
I believe the Sport Suspension is slightly lower, and for me that's low enough.
One thing older folks , driving a lowered car, or as low as my Zed is, have to deal with getting into and out of the thing while still maintaining some sense of decorum !
ps In case some think I'm a cantankerous old git, I think the tuner and modding culture is one of the best automotive trends.
So I went with the H&R sport lowering springs and to me its just the right amount of low. Im on the stock shocks and struts and Ive had them for about 6 months and I still love them. I do plan to get new shocks and struts in the future but for right now they're great. - 2006 325i
That's what I did. Just wait till you get the new shocks and struts. It will feel like you are driving a brand new car!
Justin Buice Are you still on the h&r sports just with new bilstein's?
Yes
What springs and struts did you all go with?
you have to take into account the most important thing: Kinematic performance of your suspension arms. They are set under a certain angle. Ideal sitting position is when inside joint of the suspension arm is sitting higher than the outside joint (check front view of modern open wheel race cars like F3 or F1, arms are not set horizontally). When you lower the car you mess things up. It might feel stiffer and you think it turns better but its ultimate kinematic performance is reduced. Do your research on how much you can lower your particular car without negatively affecting its performance.
What is 370z can’t find any
If your taking the driveway and everything else head on your going to scrape Enter at a angle and you should be fine I been driving low cars for 11 years and that always worked for me
guess im not lowering my car, I live close to detroit and want my car in one piece
I live around the Detroit area too, my 335i is rwd but I drove it through all the snow storms that passed this winter
I am scraping my non lowered Honda Civic. I had a lowered VW Golf 3 vr6. I sold it after 3 month, because the Head Gasket was blown and the repair was too expensive for me. This Golf was ratteling like crazy when the Road was just a little bit bumpy. When it was a little more bumpy, it was also scraping and banging over the Road. If the head Gasket wouldn't have been blown then the Suspension or Axle would have been broken after a while. The Wheel bearings were already pretty loud as well.
im so glad i finally found someone talking about lowered cars in snow im about to put coilovers on my subie cool to see someone from mi im right next to flint
I literally just lowered my car an hour ago . Got RSR springs for my Q50 1" so not much but I plan on either coilvers or bagged this year 👌
Great info, I roll in a Subie but still watch and learn.
I appreciate it!
What can I say they're everywhere especially if your ride is slammed....I use to think Seattle was the only place with terrible roads. Not anymore thanks to you 👍😊
One of the things you did for my VW is fer a street sheild to protect the oil and transmission pan and all the important bits
My e90 is lowered down so much that I can’t even go over speed bumps without scraping.
Having lower springs put on my daily (only) car this week but I'm not going over the top, the drop is only about 30mm, also getting new suitable KYB shocks fitted as the ones on there have done over 160,000 kays (100k miles) so hopefully I don't have any issues. We don't have snow issues here and the roads are not that bad where I normally drive. Right now I can only think of one possible car park I might have issues with, so will take it super slow the first time through.
I live in L.A. and lowering my car was a big mistake. The potholes and curbs have ripped my front bumper off and dented my mufflers... I will be going back to stock soon.
Beard is awesome -- makes you look like Hercules. When I had my 2005 E46, it was pretty low. Then the dealership replaced both of the broken rear springs and wow was it lifted up High. Lastly, roads in Ohio are like avoiding landmines (it's the weather).
I have a stock MSport e90, i pulled into a parking bay and heard a slight tell tale scrape of my bumper sliding over the kerb, no big deal i thought. I reversed carefully and i presume one of the screw heads that hold the under tray to bumper grabbed hold of the kerb, I heard a crack and the chin was split in two down the middle. You have got to be so careful with these kinda things, which is why iv decided not to lower my car lol.
Exactly true! So much goes into a proper lowered height that many don’t know about.
I’ve had all 6 of my cars lowered with the proper suspension except the 335i. No need to lower that as it’s RWD + sport package as there isn’t any wheel gap space. Love the look with the speakers and the handling in stock form that I’m happy with 😀
Now my wife on the other hand doesn’t know how to drive a lowered car when she drives mine 🤣😬
Oh yeah...keep the beard 👍🏻
BMW Fanatic LOL id lower your 335, too much gap, and just the ride with coilovers annihilates stock ride lol
Nice! You should get wheels at some point to complete the look!
Shumile Swift I’d say lower it as well, it would give it that edge to make people notice that it’s no normal 335
"If sparks don't fly, your ride is too high"
Shumile Swift Lol, no wheel gap here bud
Thanks for the video. I'm having 2nd thoughts about lowering my civic
I have coilovers which I firmly believe in. But you do not have to slam the car with coilovers. You can actually raise it up to a reasonable height.
I like it almost a full inch above most standard parking dividers. Three quarters of an inch will do as well.
But in my area where we have a lot of road debris a full inch above Standard Parking divider is really where you want to be... no lower than that.
Which I have had to do after ruining too many expensive bumpers.
Agree with the pot holes, people outside Michigan have no idea, pretty sure that's why my axle shaft went bad. Nice hoodie and keep the beard 👍🏻
Thanks!
I wish my 330i E90 was all wheel drive. Thanks again Justin, been thinking about lowering mine a little bit as well. Very handy tips and info I didn’t even consider.
Great video, lots of info and straight to the point. I am tired of the click baits around these days. Keep up
Baton Rouge has some of the worst, that’s why I got a truck and lifted it, I don’t have to worry about scraping or parking, I can park it in the mud field beside the grocery store parking lot when no one else wants to, it’s great.
Keep growing in every sense.
How low is your BMW? I'm thinking going 2 inches front,1.5 back on my 2014 BMW x1 sdrive. My first coilovers. Need help.
I got a bmw 325i and it just the perfect height for me
Do you think my car will be ok,if I lower it an inch & a 1/2 or an inch & a 1/4?
That beard looks SMACKEN KEEP THAT SHIT❤️
Thanks man!
Nour Hummadi hey man it's been a long time since the last video!! what's up ? i really wanna know what happened to your brother's wide body project
Georgio Jreij we are getting his car legal then continue with the widebody
Gayy
If they want to complain that the ride bumpy ima say get out and walk simple, unless you giving gas money or own the car I don't want to hear shit lmao
Giving passengers a bumpy ride is a form of abuse. Do you want to go to jail for passenger abuse?
@@keyboardwarrior2418 lol stfu
Great info, lowered my e63 M6 last summer and the ride definitely is rough. But dramatically gave it a more aggressive look. Haven’t done struts / shocks but it’s not my daily driver. Hope to meet up this spring, I’m in Royal Oak!
Keep the beard but at that length, wanna keep her happy to! Keep up the great vids! And Tell your parents they did good, you’re a positive influence on your generation!
I have my car lowered on coilovers for about a month now and it’s pretty low 😆 no issues at all 👌🏾
Is coil over better than just springs?
Make a video about “10 best” winter beaters for a car enthusiast
I have a 98 Camaro lowered an 1.5" and it SUCKS in Chicago (I have headers on it) I bought it lowered and it honestly sucks to drive unless I know the route. What sucks is I think 4th gen Camaros look hideous factory height. But I'm to the point where I want to go to factory height so I don't have to worry as much about driving it. As of now it's a DD not a race car so I think it makes sense to raise it. Im running stagg lowering springs and shocks (matching set) and the ride quality is awful. But after the headers install my clearance went from about 3" down to maybe 1". So what I'm trying to say is be aware of the modifications done to your car before lowering it or even after you lower it if you plan on daily driving it.
One of the better disclaimer videos on lowering your car. I lowered my 2014 Corolla 6MT with Eibach’s Pro Kit 1.3” keeping the stock struts. While I like the reduced fender gap and better cornering, I’m thinking of returning my suspension back to stock. I drive on some rough roads and it rides harsh. I also drive my kids around so they do feel the bumps more. Plus I’ve scraped my front bumpers, under belly, and tail pipe numerous times already keeping in mind that I’m lowered. I’ll miss that reduced fender gap and a more planted highway feel but the negatives are more in my case that the benefits from being lowered.
I'm thinking about returning mine to stock as well. The part that sucks is I bought it like that. I've only scraped twice but considering its a 2020 and I'm under financing for the next 5 years I don't really want to mess up anything. I'm pretty sure it already affects the warranty on the suspension because its lowered. I honestly didn't even realize it when I got it but I've never had a lowered car. I love the way it looks and feeling more planted highway feel as well but the cons just dont seem worth it to me.
In the south, if you lower your car, you may find yourself occasionally scraping roadkill off the underside of your car because it will no longer clear the dead squirrel or cat.
The beard looks great, no worries about snow in clearwater
I'm in Chicago, and the potholes here are practically on par with Detroit... Garbage material, and crap contractors looking for repeat business with our tax dollars. I dig the new rims btw!
Love your vids man. Also I feel your pain, driving a WRX in detroit now and I cant resist lowering it even with the lack of earth crust lol
I loooove your wheels 😍 I ended up getting gun metal gray instead of black... definitely thinking I shoulda gone with black
Oops, I guess they're not black 😅 they look good though
You hit it all! Good video!
The roads over here in Ireland are the real test for a lowered car haha
Irish gang
Dude said he lived in Michigan, so do I so I subbed right away
Love your wheels so much I bought the same ones in titanium black shadow!
That's awesome! I'm really happy with mine
don’t forget people will speed up to try and pass you when u go over a speed bump when the lights green
I was about to type " your car isnt even that low" as you said it yourself. Lol
lowered my e92 M3 with Eibachs and had no issues. was stiffer which was nice but only lowered it like maybe .75 in the front and .5 in the rear. or maybe it was 1.0 in the front and .75 in the rear. cant remember now. basically sat at the same ride hight as my competition package M3. wanting to lower my 335 next but i kinda like the daily ability of it and on road trips. might not be the best move but we'll see. might give it a try and if i dont like it, can always go back to stock.
Note: South Carolina potholes are equally bad. And most roads haven't been repaved... hell my road has one that's almost a dip right now.
Yeah i agree over here in c.a. there are alot of pot holes and steap driveways my front lip on my ride is scraped because of these driveways and pot holes.
Hey Justin! Your videos are great and you have made me consider buying a used BMW for myself. I'm planning to buy a used car in the next month or two and I am considering a 2005 BMW X3 that I found in my city. It has 116,000 miles on it which I know is not an ideal mileage for buying a used BMW. However, it is in good condition and it has the main option that I really want which is a large sunroof/moonroof. Does anyone here have experience with an X3 of a similar age and if so please leave some feedback! Really appreciate it!
I have some KW V1s on my 06 330xi, I love the handling, but it's my daily driver and the pot holes/speed bumps here are horrendous, I guess when 90% of the population drives pickups and SUVs it's not really a problem. The car came with the coilovers, so for a daily driver I don't think I would ever go out and buy coilovers.
Thanks for the video man deft helped me decide if I wanna lower my car or not
Yep researching lowering my e90 now! Thinking putting 19s before I do tho. Here in L.A. the roads are not that great either. Freeways are a mixed bag as especially some are notorious for trucking routes...nice patch for ~2m or so then turns to shit again. So yeah, at times I'm swerving or at least def keeping my eyes peeled.
pixeldup right! They fix the same potholes over and over instead of doing it right and replacing the whole section here in LA
And some rare cases like my car the BMW M3 E46 Edition, the ride actually is better with a good set of coilovers. The stock springs and Sachs shocks are terrible.
My KW coilovers were pretty comfortable. BC coilovers are even more comfortable. I think the most comfortable are eibach Springs combined with koni yellow shocks. Not sure about that but I think that's the case in that order.
My trans am had eibachs and monks and best way is approach angle for one of your tires to hit first never head on anymore lol
You didn't mention that lowering the BMW will have more negative camber all around? With new springs and shocks installed.
Camber plates in front? Camber arms on the rear? Alignment. Longer/normal wear & tear on the tires?
Saunt Leny very important and nobody has mentioned that.
I paid $139 for Megan racing lowering springs on stock struts and those shits ran better than stock and no, my stock springs weren’t bad.
Do you have problems with your front axle coming out as a result of lowering your car after adding camber plates to correct the alignment?
I'm thinking about lowering my car but it cost more in long run speed bump passengers potholes tires wear out quickly. It's better just leave it to manufacturer specification I've been driving my car almost 12 years never had problems underneath my car.
shame you didnt reaserch how to jack your car properly, your bmw has a floating rear diff, you really should not jack the car up using your diff, use your sill jacking points or you will damage the bushes the diff is mounted on.
true, there is a jack point you could use BEHIND the read diff (more towards the engine) but not the diff case
Then where would you place jackstands if needed when the jacking points are already occupied?
Why did it take me this long to find your channel?? I love your videos! Please keep it up, I enjoy watching 👌
I thought uk roads were bad urs look terrible
Patient Zero Hey buddy I'm in the uk and around Kirklees the roads are terrible. Bad potholes everywhere and poor repairs that don't last 2 minutes. Pretty bad here ☹
Tim Law makes you wonder what they spend our road tax on because it ain’t on the roads!
Try South African roads💔
wait till you see Montreal roads
Beard looks good and your car is lowered the perfect amount looks good also
b7 audi 1.5 drop on vogtland sport springs and bilstein sport strut ride pretty good ,and nyc got more potholes lol,am in brookyn
Yeah, can't justify going low and slow, at least not for my car. I like taking bumps and not having to worry too much about driveways - my car is stock height and it still scrapes due to the incline to get into the driveway.
Great videos man. keep it up! i love watching them. cant wait till more!
thanks!
I lowered my 03 Cobra this summer. My main problem is that because I have a convertible there is this extra X brace on the front that hangs LOW. That brace scrapes all the time. Drives me nuts. The factory Bilsteins don't work well with the springs. So I'm thinking of going with some adjustable Konis.
The beard is the future keep growing it
Snow plow +1
That jacket dude cleannn
Those potholes are cute. Greetings from India 😄
interesting, my car is the opposite. i have the fattest possible winter tires i can put on it and my e90 looks like a little tank. sits nice and wide. i can’t fathom the underneath damage from dropping it
Oh man, I just ordered the same setup as you've got with H&R sports springs and the b8 Bilstein shocks and am hoping like hell the ride doesn't get too stiff and hard. I had seen a couple other youtube videos and felt like most were saying the ride remained pretty stock and comfortable.....it's on my A7 daily driver and am not digging the idea of a harder feel...
Can you update on the ride before I order please
Theres a big diff in "lowered" and "slammed". For.most cars a 1 i xh drop is enough.
Grow the beard my dude looks sickkk
Thanks!
I can relate to the part where you can’t even go through certain roads anymore
Definitely keep growing the beard!!! It looks good man!!!
Lmao home boy said “battle scares” ITS TRUE THO 😭😭😭
Thanks for the helpful advice. The beard suits you well 👍
I have a 2012 bmw 335is on bcracing coilovers. Love it!!!
Beard is perfect. 👌🏼 Keep growing but maintain that length.
My local roads are terrible and filled with potholes so I won’t be lowering my car any time soon.
Can't you make a video of how to change your brakes. Rotors and pads.
I already did a video on this last year, check my DIY playlist :)
This really is making me think of not lowering it at all
i'm scrolling through videos click on this one and turns out you live right by where I used to live in macomb/ Clinton twp. I graduated from Chippewa valley thats kinda weird lmfao, moved down here to Florida best choice I've made! good video man thanks
Nice!! I graduated from Chippewa in 2008
Nice!! I graduated from Chippewa in 2008
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i feel ya theres a pothole at my campus that goes 1 feet down and its always filled with water
it's terrible