I mostly blame that phenomenon on ignorant, out-of-touch parents and grandparents buying this for their kids/grandkids. They saw the price and thought "what a deal"!
Wow, when the camera cuts as you go up a ramp it is ridiculously disorienting. For a while during this video I thought your character was suddenly on an invisible plane a foot off the ground when it was actually the wall I was looking at...
This sequel is a massivs improvement to its predecessor. Maybe after 50 more sequels this series could be playable... Kickstarter, anyone? Nah! But now we need to see Country Justice. ;-)
It's not as noticeable during gameplay thankfully. Dunno whether it's because I was controlling it so I knew when to anticipate it or what. But yeah, it still sucks.
I heard this is so call " Video Game Motion Sickness". It is caused when there is a disconnect between what your eyes are seeing and what your body is feeling.Especially on this type of "Simulation" game. If the camera movement is not well adjusted, it will easily cause the sickness.
I was (am) drunk while listening and it was pretty bad. That transition was insanely painful for some reason. After watching I found my copy so I'm going to try it out. It's installing right now. My brother is a fellow collector and fan, and will probably crack up when he finds out he can play it tomorrow. Hope you had a merry Christmas and have a happy new year's eve, Clint! I'd love to share a beer and talk about old games with you one day.
god, that camera when you go up in the air from a halfpipe is terrible, the transition is so bad that it just looks like the floor glitched away into a big grey mess. i actually saw a jewel case copy of this game in a thrift shortly after your review for the first game, and having watched this review i feel even more validated for having passed it up
The camera in this one feels like it's on a long string attached to the player, and it just spins out of control when jumping... It's sickening to watch o-o
You've GOT to review "Country Justice" man! That game looks horrible. And now I actually feel bad for telling you to play it.. But I find it amusing to watch your pain! *Evil laugh* (Seriously though, I love your work and reviews. You're awesome!)
Shady00018 Exactly! That's about the ONLY good thing to come out of Congo. Any flick that doesn't have the sense to use Bruce Campbell in the way God intended sucks!
2:24 I like how the characters look like playmobil dolls that have been left laying in the backyard for like a year, the dead, soulless, reptilian emptiness in their faces is a nice touch.
The devs of all these skateboarding games are missing a trick. What's really needed is "Super Extreme Pigs On Skateboards and Pogo Sticks!!! (Special Edition: With extra potato peelings!)"
Your job is to write a description of the game. "This sucks." No, you can't be negative! "This...has gameplay." Make it more radical! "WE MEAN GAMEPLAY!
The thing I notice that really puts me off this one is the camera angle on the tricks. Instead of tracking it just follows the player until you can't see where to land because the world goes topsy turvey. Glad the likes of Tony Hawk didn't give skateboarding games his name of approval until a decent developer made one that worked.
Why would Activision have made this when Tony Hawk was already on their roster? If a restaurant has an amazing burger, why add a cheaper priced burger made from questionable meat sources that may also give someone food poisoning. That's just risking a health inspector crackdown and loss of customers.
Oh God! I honestly think this game is WORSE than the first one. Most notably because of the camera movement. I felt physically ill every time you went up on the halfpipe in the video. Secondly, the fact that this game isn't a trainwreck of a bad game, and just boringly mediocre, means it holds zero playability. Atleast the first one had that shock value to pique people's morbid curiosity. And also the fact that Tony Hawk existed by this point kinda hurts it too.
Ah, yeah... I see where you're going with this. The first one is so bad that its a joke, whereas the sequel is just boring. ... Another fun joke is "Kinnikuman: Dirty Challenger" on the Snes. So bad its awesome!
Now I want to see more of the Silverfish Studios titles on LGR. I mean after this you'd think they'd be perfecting their craft, making beautifully well done games that would make titles like Duke Nukem 3D jealous.
2:39 - Is one of those skateboards using the floating man in business suit character from Webdings? They must have been really desperate to come up with some designs.
The perspective shift when going up a jump was making me sick. I gotta say, it's surprising how this terrible stuff gets made. I sincerely feel bad for people who had to spend months working on this.
I think Activision bought the company, saw how abysmal B&B was, and gave the team the source code to Tony Hawk. They still managed to botch the whole thing from top to bottom, but you can see from the behavior that the sequel clearly has Tony Hawk DNA in it.
A lot of people here are saying this game's camera makes them sick, I think they mean how it flips during vertical ramps, but I'm sure it's fine when you actually play the game and you control when it happens. Actually, I love how it makes the player lose track of which way is down, this seems like it would be tricky but also very true to life, and with some polish it could even be pretty fun. Sadly polish is what the game most lacks, which I see as especially unfortunate since skate games that nail the vertical ramp aspect are about 75% of the way to greatness.
They could have spiced this game up so much. Have cheering crowds in the background, babes you can flirt with, flashing party lights on the ceiling, smoke machine, a psycho biker chasing you, colorful graffiti on the wall,...this is just hideously bland.
:D - well it seems to be a bit better then. Maybe other game series could be done like this also, as you do with The Sims etc? Just a thought. Also, it seems they missed out a word on the blurb. It should have said 'our #1 skateboarding game', perhaps? ('Our' being Silverfish, that is). That first game adds to the fact that most things with 'extreme' and 'ultimate' usually means the exact opposite also, methinks. Good review anyway Clint!
You think you'll ever do a video for odd PC ports like the PC version of twisted metal 2? I think it would be interesting to watch. Also what about a review of the 2003 game Freelancer?
Hey LGR, seeing how much you like the series, will you do a video on Carmageddon: Reincarnation soon? (Assuming it's playable for you at its current state...)
Wow LGR, this is the first time i see you "Hate" a game i didnt thought i was posible, allways try to be fair and positive then reviewing, that was why i started watching, plus the awesome voice ^^. but in some way i still injoyed this review, because even though it was clearly a pile of **** you stayed to the facts as allways 'Excellent job my friend, cant wait to see what happens next time :)
The reason that Silver Fish Studios makes such horrible games is because the team knows almost nothing about programming and they rush the games. They spend a few hours per week at most on there games and finish them within a month, and they dont know anything about programming they just copy and paste scripts from other games and download free models and try to make it into there own game ( doesnt turn out very well )
It's worth pointing out that Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 was published under the Activision Value label on PC at around the same time as this, so who knows who this game was for.
No, THPS2 was released by Activision proper and at full price. Activision Value was something quite different and their games were half the normal cost. It later had its own subdivision known as Activision o2, but still quite separate from Activision Value :)
Lazy Game Reviews I might be wrong about the timeframe (I think it was around the release of THPS3), but I'm sure it was published by them at some point. My copy has a readme with the Activision Value address, has a link to activisionvalue.com in the installer, it installs to the Activision Value folder, and lists Activision Value in the manual (though the cover still had Activision o2). Also the executable seems to be patched, as any hex editing mods I've tried do not work on my copy. It works on XP out of the box too, unlike the original release. Googling around, I can't find any info about the release either. I found a single review referencing Activision Value publishing it (on a site called Christian Answers. huh.) which also referred to their review of the GBA version. Is it possible that it was a geographically limited release? It wasn't too far away from their office where I got the copy.
How after getting sponsored by Activision, Powerbar, and Mountain Dew... how the hell did Silverfish get the job of creating this sequel after what they put out? It blows my mind!
I'm surprised that they didn't just copy the engine of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and tweak it up a bit. I'm also surprised that Boards and Blades sold half a million copies. Some of the best games don't even sell close to that.
"I have no idea what the criminal theme is about." Maybe it's because the skaters were arrested due to their involvement with the first game, which is indeed a felony:D" this is why i come here. You never fail, LGR.
Completely random idea, but do you think the market success of the first Board and Blades lead to the greenlighting of Tony Hawks Pro Skater? The suits at Activision might have seen that there was demand in the market for alt/x-sport titles as even crap would sell.
No, but I plan on taking a look at the final game! I've played the pre-alpha though, but it's just nearly complete enough or very playable yet to merit a video.
Wow, thank you for posting this! This may be a horrible game, but I remember it from my childhood and I've been trying to remember what it was called. I "remember" it being frustrating the first time I tried it, but when I started getting into skateboarding in real life, I remembered I had this game and gave it another shot. I was actually able to beat the game, in which case you unlock a zombie version of the character you chose, haha. Again, I'm sure this game is crap, but my memories of it are enjoyable.
I just found a copy of this at my local Goodwill... now I just need th efirst one, big rigs, and a copy of ET and I will have all of the best games ever made
The first one sold half a frickin' million copies? Oh my god ...
*****
Nah, I loved that game as a kid. Played it every day and kicked ass at it.
Dat Roll Kicked the producer's asses.
WEASELLLLLLLLLL, you replied to me this morning woo, thanks for that
I mostly blame that phenomenon on ignorant, out-of-touch parents and grandparents buying this for their kids/grandkids. They saw the price and thought "what a deal"!
We've got to find all the people that bought the first and second game, and put them out of thier misery
Ok, with those character models, this really does look like an MDickie game.
Wow, when the camera cuts as you go up a ramp it is ridiculously disorienting. For a while during this video I thought your character was suddenly on an invisible plane a foot off the ground when it was actually the wall I was looking at...
when I read the title I was hoping for a game about fighting with swords on skateboards.
This sequel is a massivs improvement to its predecessor. Maybe after 50 more sequels this series could be playable... Kickstarter, anyone? Nah! But now we need to see Country Justice. ;-)
The camera movement when you jump is making me sick...
It's not as noticeable during gameplay thankfully. Dunno whether it's because I was controlling it so I knew when to anticipate it or what. But yeah, it still sucks.
I heard this is so call " Video Game Motion Sickness".
It is caused when there is a disconnect between what your eyes are seeing and what your body is feeling.Especially on this type of "Simulation" game.
If the camera movement is not well adjusted, it will easily cause the sickness.
Zen Vict Player It doesn't really make me sick. It just bothers the fuck out of me.
Me too, I couldn't finish the vid..
I was (am) drunk while listening and it was pretty bad. That transition was insanely painful for some reason. After watching I found my copy so I'm going to try it out. It's installing right now. My brother is a fellow collector and fan, and will probably crack up when he finds out he can play it tomorrow.
Hope you had a merry Christmas and have a happy new year's eve, Clint! I'd love to share a beer and talk about old games with you one day.
god, that camera when you go up in the air from a halfpipe is terrible, the transition is so bad that it just looks like the floor glitched away into a big grey mess. i actually saw a jewel case copy of this game in a thrift shortly after your review for the first game, and having watched this review i feel even more validated for having passed it up
Two words. Nitro Family. If I've ever played a bad PC game it's that. Not to mention there are literally no reviews anywhere for it.
The camera in this one feels like it's on a long string attached to the player, and it just spins out of control when jumping... It's sickening to watch o-o
You've GOT to review "Country Justice" man! That game looks horrible.
And now I actually feel bad for telling you to play it.. But I find it amusing to watch your pain! *Evil laugh*
(Seriously though, I love your work and reviews. You're awesome!)
Hope you could do "Congo" the movie game in the future. :D
I could never complete the level where I had to stop Tim Curry from eating my sesame cake.
LOL
Shady00018 Exactly! That's about the ONLY good thing to come out of Congo. Any flick that doesn't have the sense to use Bruce Campbell in the way God intended sucks!
Just btw Spyro 3 has awesome skating minigame. I spent more time playing it than the actual game trying to perfect all tricks. :D
They could have at least put real Ska in this one. :|
"Mum I want to buy Tony Hawk Pro Skater"
"You have a skating game at home"
The skating game at home:
Soooo... this games only redeeming quality is that it doesn't suck as much as the first game? =/
Pretty much.
2:24 I like how the characters look like playmobil dolls that have been left laying in the backyard for like a year, the dead, soulless, reptilian emptiness in their faces is a nice touch.
Is it strange to say I have a man crush on your voice mr. LGR?
The devs of all these skateboarding games are missing a trick. What's really needed is "Super Extreme Pigs On Skateboards and Pogo Sticks!!! (Special Edition: With extra potato peelings!)"
Unfortunately, it never made it past an early pre-Alpha. If only it was actually released, we'd all be in for a real treat!
What we need is a third person shooter on pogo sticks with regenerating health and extra damage based on doing tricks while shooting the enemy.
Your job is to write a description of the game.
"This sucks."
No, you can't be negative!
"This...has gameplay."
Make it more radical!
"WE MEAN GAMEPLAY!
Had you ever heard of Head Games' Gear Head Garage? That was one of my favorite games to play on my old XP.
I love how there no landing animation. You're in the air and then all of a sudden you're flat on the ground
The thing I notice that really puts me off this one is the camera angle on the tricks. Instead of tracking it just follows the player until you can't see where to land because the world goes topsy turvey. Glad the likes of Tony Hawk didn't give skateboarding games his name of approval until a decent developer made one that worked.
The menu color pallet looks like a Rastafarian’s dream.
Why would Activision have made this when Tony Hawk was already on their roster? If a restaurant has an amazing burger, why add a cheaper priced burger made from questionable meat sources that may also give someone food poisoning. That's just risking a health inspector crackdown and loss of customers.
Sweet Jesus.
It looks like M Dickie made this game.
Rusty Cox Lol best comment on here
About to go to sleep
See LGR uploaded a video
TH-cam let me sleep T^T
noooooo.
it WATCHES you sleep.
Oh God! I honestly think this game is WORSE than the first one. Most notably because of the camera movement. I felt physically ill every time you went up on the halfpipe in the video. Secondly, the fact that this game isn't a trainwreck of a bad game, and just boringly mediocre, means it holds zero playability. Atleast the first one had that shock value to pique people's morbid curiosity. And also the fact that Tony Hawk existed by this point kinda hurts it too.
Ah, yeah... I see where you're going with this. The first one is so bad that its a joke, whereas the sequel is just boring. ... Another fun joke is "Kinnikuman: Dirty Challenger" on the Snes. So bad its awesome!
I see the Genesis3D game engine web page doesn't show any screenshots from this game...
Now I want to see more of the Silverfish Studios titles on LGR. I mean after this you'd think they'd be perfecting their craft, making beautifully well done games that would make titles like Duke Nukem 3D jealous.
I'll give it one thing... That "RESTRICTED AREA" police tape is kind of a clever way of saying that the level is locked... Kind of.
Can you not get off your board and walk in this one?
2:39 - Is one of those skateboards using the floating man in business suit character from Webdings? They must have been really desperate to come up with some designs.
The perspective shift when going up a jump was making me sick. I gotta say, it's surprising how this terrible stuff gets made. I sincerely feel bad for people who had to spend months working on this.
I think Activision bought the company, saw how abysmal B&B was, and gave the team the source code to Tony Hawk. They still managed to botch the whole thing from top to bottom, but you can see from the behavior that the sequel clearly has Tony Hawk DNA in it.
You probably hear this a lot, but dear god these reviews are addictive.
New Series Idea: Games that make me want to run around blindfolded in highway traffic
Tony Hawk's Discount Skater can be found at any Dollar General store near you !!!
A lot of people here are saying this game's camera makes them sick, I think they mean how it flips during vertical ramps, but I'm sure it's fine when you actually play the game and you control when it happens. Actually, I love how it makes the player lose track of which way is down, this seems like it would be tricky but also very true to life, and with some polish it could even be pretty fun. Sadly polish is what the game most lacks, which I see as especially unfortunate since skate games that nail the vertical ramp aspect are about 75% of the way to greatness.
i like how the free ride option flickers randomly in the menu, even the menus are glitchy
They could have spiced this game up so much. Have cheering crowds in the background, babes you can flirt with, flashing party lights on the ceiling, smoke machine, a psycho biker chasing you, colorful graffiti on the wall,...this is just hideously bland.
2:40 What's with the random symbol on that board ripped straight off of WIngdings?
It's more generous than coconut 54
Speaking of "value software", could you review Roller Coaster Factory 3 from ValuSoft?
3:41 -- Oh my god... Now I'm picturing Torgo on a skateboard.
...
XD
:D - well it seems to be a bit better then. Maybe other game series could be done like this also, as you do with The Sims etc? Just a thought. Also, it seems they missed out a word on the blurb. It should have said 'our #1 skateboarding game', perhaps? ('Our' being Silverfish, that is). That first game adds to the fact that most things with 'extreme' and 'ultimate' usually means the exact opposite also, methinks. Good review anyway Clint!
Holy poop this was fast. Great video. Hope to see more DOS good games or post DOS, pre-cd popularization
Got this game from a Scholastic Book Fair lol I enjoyed it but I was a little kid, along with Extreme PaintBrawl 2 lol
You think you'll ever do a video for odd PC ports like the PC version of twisted metal 2? I think it would be interesting to watch.
Also what about a review of the 2003 game Freelancer?
Hey LGR, seeing how much you like the series, will you do a video on Carmageddon: Reincarnation soon? (Assuming it's playable for you at its current state...)
Wow LGR, this is the first time i see you "Hate" a game i didnt thought i was posible, allways try to be fair and positive then reviewing, that was why i started watching, plus the awesome voice ^^. but in some way i still injoyed this review, because even though it was clearly a pile of **** you stayed to the facts as allways
'Excellent job my friend, cant wait to see what happens next time :)
Loving these reviews!
it looks like a game someone made as a school project in unity or game maker
+ Simon Andersson It looks more like a free game made in 2005
That was played on the internet with Flash
The reason that Silver Fish Studios makes such horrible games is because the team knows almost nothing about programming and they rush the games. They spend a few hours per week at most on there games and finish them within a month, and they dont know anything about programming they just copy and paste scripts from other games and download free models and try to make it into there own game ( doesnt turn out very well )
How'd you find this out?
It's worth pointing out that Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 was published under the Activision Value label on PC at around the same time as this, so who knows who this game was for.
No, THPS2 was released by Activision proper and at full price. Activision Value was something quite different and their games were half the normal cost. It later had its own subdivision known as Activision o2, but still quite separate from Activision Value :)
Lazy Game Reviews I might be wrong about the timeframe (I think it was around the release of THPS3), but I'm sure it was published by them at some point. My copy has a readme with the Activision Value address, has a link to activisionvalue.com in the installer, it installs to the Activision Value folder, and lists Activision Value in the manual (though the cover still had Activision o2). Also the executable seems to be patched, as any hex editing mods I've tried do not work on my copy. It works on XP out of the box too, unlike the original release.
Googling around, I can't find any info about the release either. I found a single review referencing Activision Value publishing it (on a site called Christian Answers. huh.) which also referred to their review of the GBA version. Is it possible that it was a geographically limited release? It wasn't too far away from their office where I got the copy.
It's a pity how much potential this game had. It there wasn't such bad animations and graphic's, this could of been a pretty good game overall.
We need a Country Justice review. It's the only way to bring balance to the universe.
You should do a lets play of the tony hawk underground series as duke nukem
How after getting sponsored by Activision, Powerbar, and Mountain Dew... how the hell did Silverfish get the job of creating this sequel after what they put out? It blows my mind!
those skaters needed the money to buy more PowerBars and Mountain Dew. They can't stop their bodies from exploding by themselves you know.
Our requests were answered!
You know what else is value priced? Delta Force.
So you gonna do Country Justice next? :P
Those camera angles makes me feel awful inside :(
LGR, would you consider doing an LGR Plays of Country Justice?
I'm surprised that they didn't just copy the engine of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and tweak it up a bit. I'm also surprised that Boards and Blades sold half a million copies. Some of the best games don't even sell close to that.
I see so many shovelware getting new entries while good games are left without a deserving new entry.
Was that Charglezz Firecaster?
"I have no idea what the criminal theme is about." Maybe it's because the skaters were arrested due to their involvement with the first game, which is indeed a felony:D"
this is why i come here. You never fail, LGR.
Suddenly, a wild LGR video appeared in my subscriptions. Then there's no time to waste!
Anyway, great video! Keep being awesome!
Oh geez, why is the FOV so low? Combined with the awful HUD, jerky camera and complete lack of lighting, it's actually pretty naueating.
Does that tall black guy in the game look like Wasabi from Big Hero 6, or is it just me?
I almost knew that this Game should be better ^^ but I also see that you don't ran out of Games to review ^^
Is it just me or does the guy with the skates look vaguely like Commander Keen?
Completely random idea, but do you think the market success of the first Board and Blades lead to the greenlighting of Tony Hawks Pro Skater? The suits at Activision might have seen that there was demand in the market for alt/x-sport titles as even crap would sell.
I still can't tell what is happening in time or space when you go into the ramps
The levels look like prototypes to what would be the actual levels in THPS 1 and 2.
"maybe they were arrested for the first game, which is indeed a felony" haha
Desperate Housewives game next!!! Pleaseee =D
please review the rednick game
No PRACTICE MODE?!!
Even the CD cover looks a little Tony Hawks Pro Skater.
The Game's Case cover and "Press "START" Screen" looks AWFUL familiar.....
Tony Hawk Pro Skater, anyone?
They reused the "theme" on it. Or am I crazy?
2:40 isn't that skateboard design an emoji?
Hey LGR, are you planning to take a look at Carmageddon Reincarnation early access?
No, but I plan on taking a look at the final game! I've played the pre-alpha though, but it's just nearly complete enough or very playable yet to merit a video.
if i ever had played this game, i would have instantaneously quit gaming, skating and done who knows what with my life.
seeing this, skate 3 looks like heaven
I can't put my finger on why I like your videos, I just know I do, and this is no exception. I love the line about a punch to the face.
School book fairs, I think thats how the first managed to sell so well
Genesis3D, isn't that the engine that rose to infamy for being used for Ethnic Cleansing?
Wow, thank you for posting this! This may be a horrible game, but I remember it from my childhood and I've been trying to remember what it was called.
I "remember" it being frustrating the first time I tried it, but when I started getting into skateboarding in real life, I remembered I had this game and gave it another shot. I was actually able to beat the game, in which case you unlock a zombie version of the character you chose, haha.
Again, I'm sure this game is crap, but my memories of it are enjoyable.
What the hell is the camera doing?
This looks like if MDickie made a skateboarding game.
3:37 "Immposible"
I just found a copy of this at my local Goodwill... now I just need th efirst one, big rigs, and a copy of ET and I will have all of the best games ever made
I wonder if anybody who worked on this game went on to work on the THPS series. You know, as a custodian or something.
This game looks like if MDickie tried his hand at a skateboarding game.
This just makes me wanna play jet set radio idk why
IT HURTS TO LOOK AT FFS
Nice video man
Well, it seems to function, so that's something. Although it seems worse than the skating sections in Spyro 3, which suggests it's still crap.
Think you uploaded clips of Tony Hawks 5 by mistake.
Even the game cover looks glitchy