A New Release of Slackware! Worth The Wait?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- After six years, we finally have a new stable release of Slackware. Like many of you, I've been waiting for this release for awhile, and I'm looking forward to running through an installation and first look today! Let's see if the wait was worth it!
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Slackware is like an elder that seems old but can win a fight against a pro fighter!
Slackware is Komaki
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏻
Well said young grasshoppers
When I tested distributions with sysbench slackware was the fastest calculating primes
@@replikvltyoutube3727 Ok, this is very interesting. Why is the reason for that? Is it the selection of compiler/libraries in Slackware?
This install hasn't changed in 20+ years! I LOVE IT!
the vpn thing is new.
Didn't really have to
"If it ain't broke, don't fix."
Well, at least this is something Slackware does the best.
Microsoft could learn a lesson or two from the dev of Slackware.
@@commentarysheep oh my God could they. Moving from 7 to 10 was a nightmare
@@commentarysheep It is all about improvement and progress. That is why it was forked in the first place.
Slackware was my first distro in 1994. I installed it on my custom 486 computer in my dorm room in college. I had an operating systems class that was using minix and I got permission to implement some scheduler changes in Linux instead. That ended up being a major detour for me but I had a lot of fun.
damn your pfp already suggests that you use linux
@@pranav_ahuja thanks, I think. :)
Hey DT. You’ll find this really interesting. My dads old friend actually co developed Slackware! His name was Brett person and he was a beta tester. He knew the main developer of Slackware and went to college with him. Also you’re probably my favorite Linux TH-camr! If you read this thanks
really? neat
Brown nose 😒
@@LinuxUnderwear what? This is cool
@Tabio 😂
@Tabio He doesn't gain anything by lying about this bro, it also doesn't matter if he lied lol
I really thought that was a joke for a second lol, I'm really happy to see Slackware alive.
Slackware, the first Linux distro I ever installed sometime in the mid, late '90s. It came on the front cover of a computer magazine. I installed it on a Dell 486. It's the one that started my journey.
Same
Same here. Was very tedious but you learn a lot during the struggle. I remember being so excited when I finally got to the GUI with the “X” mouse cursor (and nothing else).
Slackware 3.something was my first too. Fun times
I did the same, except that I bought a thick book on Linux that had the Shackware CD (some version below 2.0) at Circuit City (RIP). I spent many nights on it after work.
@@mmcleod06 I remember those book cd's. I had one programming book that came with a cd that they actually shipped with a virus, burned onto the disk. lol
That was a real nostalgia trip for me. Glad to see it's still alive and kicking! Thanks for bringing it up DT!
Blessed are those who found and never departed (or couldn't depart) with Slackware since its floppy days. I thought 14.2+ might be the last Slackware. I am glad to see 15.0 finally and replacing all '-current' on my daily-use laptops/desktops with '-15.0' even if the upgrade is just a face-lift for psychological effect only. It will be good for another decade.
If I got it correctly it has got a working multilib. I dared installing the 64 bit version. On 14.2 I stayed 32 bit because some software (Brother printer and scanner drivers) never made it to 64. I am wading through my SlackBuilds looking what is no longer needed, what is not yet building or working.
Slackware: The linux distro for reactionaries.
...Who am I kidding, the whole linux community is reactionaries.
To be fair it was very annoying to update the kernel on a -current system using UEFI, so I am glad that is over. Every time it updated it complained it didn't have Lilo installed, and had to manually create the initrd using that script I kept forgetting the route to
@@Vlad-1986 I dont know UEFI yet but Lilo, oh dear. I installed on a new pc and used lilo only to be able to boot. Next I installed grub and removed lilo. Trying different kernels and initrd is much easier with grub. Beware grub does not like GBT use MBR.
@@peterdambier wrong. why is there the option --efi-directory option for grub-install. also why is there a grub module part_gpt. I've never used grub on anything other than gpt disks.
The chad Slackware
>Being the oldest ancient Distro that survive
>Have small comunity
>One of Obscure distro that have a wiki that hard to find
>Confusing official website
>Updated after 5 years later
>Refuse to ellaborate further
>leaves
Patrick grind
The community definitely shrank a fair bit during the hiatus, but hopefully that doesn't happen again. It used to release fairly frequently.
So don't use it then. What's the problem? And if you don't like the Slackware installer, don't ever ever ever consider installing Gentoo. Have you considered the possibility that it's "hard" only because of your limited capabilities?
@@terrydaktyllus1320 You missed the joke aren't you?
@@iusearchbtw4969 "Confusing official website"? I see no joke in there, just someone that struggles with the concept of "reading words".
You deserve some serious cred for being open to stream about Slackware 15. You did quite well actually. There are shortcuts and scripts that make life a lot easier in Slackware, especially when first starting up. For example:L Had you typed "adduser DT" instead of "useradd" you would have been prompted for everything a user needs like password and groups, etc. and speaking of which an up arrow brings up a half dozen most commonly used groups with one keystroke. I've been using Slackware as my Main for going on 21 years and the feature I like best is that it doesn't change just for change sake or "new and improved" hype. That way one doesn't have to keep relearning fundamentals and can actually amass experience to grow adept faster and deeper.
Anyway I just wanted to thank you and mention how cool it was to see someone who did enough research to do a truly decent job.
I wish I stuck with it. I got adept with using the terminal and actually got to a decent level of speed at getting things done but I've forgotten it all now
Thank you to Mr. Volkerding and Alien Bob for keeping me in Linux all these years.
Started my Linux adventure with Slackware back in early '94 when it took 112 (??) 3.5" disks to install the entire system over the course of an hour or more! Nice to see they've not abandoned the 'disksets' labelling.
Slackware brings lot of nostalgia coz it was probably the 1st distro I installed on my 1st PC (Acer i486sx) in 1997. Installation ran overnight then, would wake-up at 4am to see if it has finished installing. Interestingly setup UI still looks the same.
My first Linux experience was on Slackware. Had to compile the NIC driver back then for probably the most widely used NIC of that time. One of those moments of learning stuff,...
Slackware was my first real distro back in the late 90's. I learned how to manually compile my first kernel. I am glad they have stuck to the old school ways. Im happy to see Slackware still going strong.
Slackware has been my favourite distro for decades. This is triggering sweet memories!
I tried running Slackware when i was starting out in Linux and tried out different distros and i legit failed and could not get it to run in virtual machine or booting live from a thumbdrive with the iso on it. Was nice to see it in action in this video.😎
Wow! What a throwback. Looks just like the setups of Slackware I did in the mid to late 90's. Very cool; nice to see Slackware still rolling along.
Very lightweight distro for older hardware
Tip from a long time user (one of five biggest contributor but not in dev team): it s not recommended to uncheck pkgs during setup process, if you really don t want a package you have to blacklist it in etc/slackpkg
what's the reasoning behind this? that doesn't really seem to make sense
@@redwillrise works well on hp6530 with ssd, core t1600 and only 3gb RAM (my oldest PC), but i also test previous on older machine last year compared to debian based ones
If for packages, it s not debian, redhat or arch base, and upgrades come from a changenotes file and sync from a mirror, so if you uncheck pkg, it will be installed when changenote file call it for change
(Repository may be compared to rsync like mirrors)
@@enigma158an201 yeah I was referring to the part about packages :) thanks for the explanation
@@redwillrise if compared to debian imagine there is no apt/apt-get cmd, but only dpkg with no deps managing
@@enigma158an201 There are other methods to install programs just like apt in debian, but in slackware the dependencies are nightmares... at least it was in Slackware 14.1...
Still, in my experience slackware was the most stable OS from any OS I've tested since now.
It was the only OS which functioned even on a broken HDD 😁
Slackware it's just awesome.
I've been using Linux Mint for more than 10 years now, but now I am tempted to switch back to slackware once again.
The experience with slackware was just great.
I didn't know this is a thing! Wow! Learning so much daily. This is why I love Linux
The sane package manager, aka installation scripts, just works
Great video DT! I used to get Slackware by subscription (several CDs every 3 months) which gave my old 386 machine new life. This was when you had to pay attention with video software or fry your monitor. Thanks!
Yes, it's absolutely worth the wait.
The best distribution ever and Patrick is still rocking.
Really? It is too much slacking behind in my book.
I'm actually excited about this. I'm in the process of retiring my slackware router. As part of that I was planning on spinning up a Slackware VM, just to continue having Slack.
I started using Slack back in the mid 90's running an ISP.
Now I'll make a Slack 15 VM!
Just a fun memory, we used 486sx-25's with 4 MB ram with 4 Boca 16 port serial cards to have 64 33.6k modems on one machine.
I went to another ISP where they used Windows NT running on 486DX2-66, 16MB ram with really expensive 8 port serial cards with co-processor.
Their boxes cost 4x what ours did while only using 6 modems compared to our 64.
Even though their computer had 2 built-in serial ports, plus the 8 port smart serial card, if they ran more than 6 modems the system would drop so many packets that it was useless. Even running 6 modems they had dropped packets.
The Boca 16 port serial cards cost $140, their 8 port smart cards were about $600.
We also offered a free shell account with internet service or you could buy a shell only account. They couldn't offer shell to their users.
the best description I've heard of slackware is that it's the oak tree of distros. it's slow growing and stable, provides everything you need. I've been using it where ever I can since about 2010 and that taught me so much about linux back in the day.
Nice to see Slackware alive again. And good review dt.
Slackware never died
Right and now we have a uptodate base again. (For the next 6 years) :-P
I always liked the simplicity of Slackware, it was one of the first distros I tried in about 2001 and for a newbie coming from Windows 98 it had quite a steep learning curve but was well worth it.
I scrounged up a spare 50MB IDE drive for my Win 3.1 machine back about '95 and installed Slackware from a double CD, loved the case art. Got online with my 14.4kb serial modem and finally managed to get a desktop running XFree86. Good to see it still kicking.
As a novice who has been using Linux for about a year now, I can confidently say Slackware is the best desktop experience I've ever had. I did the cinnamon slackbuild and its soooooo worth it. My favorite distro for sure.
wow the ncurses installer and LiLo, all the memories and all the feels.
Oh boy this brings me back..
Spent an entire summer as kid to get Slackware installed so that I was able to share internet around the home with a hub. Great times :)
Half the time, I have no idea what you talk about in your videos and it goes right over my head, but I can't stop watching your content and your excitement for Linux lol.
Little by little though, I'm learning :)
I did run this beast back in the day in 1996, out of CDs I’ve ordered from their store. Slackware the grand grandpa 👴🏻 of Linux distros.
All the work is done upfront and once. You rarely have to go fixing things. Ideal distro for slackers or people that want to do things on their computers and not having to spend much time managing it.
It does not break either!
All my server and daily driver needs. Slackware stable on servers and current on daily driver laptop.
you can add a user before starting X, the adduser utility will run in interactive mode, so you can choose user, password and groups (press keyboard up key to auto fill with the most common groups) after that just type exit and log in again with the non root user. also for people who do not want fdisk, cfdisk is kinda graphical, or cgdisk (in case of gpt partition). So unintentionally you made it look harder than it really is.
This
Those installer screens sure bring back the childhood memories...
My first Slackware install involved downloading 50+ 1.44 MB floppies on a 2400 bps dialup, UUencoded because the university terminal server couldn't handle 8-bit data... Fun times.
I enjoyed your review and the self deprecating humor. Slackware has been my main distro since 2004. Thanks for the positive review, mate. :)
Wow! This is amazing
Thank You DT. I've been waiting for a Slackware video. And now it's finally here!
Excellent installation walkthrough DT! I am going to try this out on a VM.
Great video! I first learnt how to use Slackware from your collab videos with Serge, and they were really informative. If possible, could you do a follow-up video to this explaining the various add-ons like sbopkg, slackpkg+ and slapt-get? A modern Slackware install isn't really complete without those, in my opinion
Did you get the slackpkg+ figured out? It's pretty easy to do actually. They use the same method for configuring mirrors and what repos to use, like debian's apt.
@@ezramiller8296 aah, it wasn't for me specifically, I know how to use it. I just felt that it would be beneficial in general if there was a comprehensive video guide out there, since the SlackWiki can be too wordy for some people.
was always installing slackware as an antiX machine so great to find that i can choose fluxbox as its wm .. and choosing console font process is still there .. there are some rly weird ones that i loved ;D
I remember installing Slackware off of floppies maybe a year after it’s first release. Good times, we live in a much richer world these days
Learned a great deal of peripheral things here about terminal commands unrelated to slackware that I'm dealing with at the moment on a little project that I have started. Very informative.
I love how Slackware supports 32bit OS.
Man, this brings back memories of my first exposure to Linux many years ago. I remember Slack being "the thing" for Linux at the time and I had a lot of fun (and frustration) getting it up and running and using it.
This flung me back to memories of high school and installing Red Hat with partitioning in the terminal and the ASCII character installer.
Slack was one of my first linux experiences.
Started using this in 1995. Nice to see it still progressing.
Hey DT, another great video! One question, if you like TUI's so much, why use fdisk over cfdisk? The latter has a great TUI!
aaah... it just brings me back to my mind the good old days installing slackware from floppy disks 😍
the installer seems really nice and clean, at least for Unixish-minded people
Is the same one from 20 years ago
Thanks Derek!! Really enjoyed your video. I have never used Slackware. Love the installer!!!😀
Finally now i can recommend this version to the newcomers to Linux
lmao. I use Slackware btw
@@yoda6239 This is the way
i was there Gandalf... 3000 years ago... 2004... i am installing Slackware, Mandrake and Debian... oh boy
My first distro, like 10 years ago. With fluxbox. I've come back to Linux after a long time and I hate it 😂. But this is making me nostalgic for a simpler time. I liked Slackware as it taught you how the OS actually WORKS and it was stable as a rock. Everything else I've used is fragile as hell.
Hey DT! Thanks for another video. 🐧
You bet!
@@DistroTube You ought to blacklist xfce if you don't want to get packages for the Xfce desktop environment when performing slackpkg install-new !
You could show a few tools to install packages. To know the dependencies of a package you can install hoorex to be found on the slackalaxy web site under the Dependencies calculator post.
@@DistroTube For next lesson, you can show how nightmarish things become when chasing dependencies by compiling vlc
Seriously, don't. But it'd be fun/hysterical to watch it :)
@@dejangunsh6090 I did it. And compiling jupyter-notebook is quite long too ! Of course for jupyter notebook you can do it through pip
I had security issues with 14.2. There was no easy way to fix it since apache/php etc would not compile properly. Since Slackware is no longer actively maintained, I decided to change to Debian. I am now running Debian-11.2. I was one of the very first users of Slackware. It came on a CD and I did not have a CD rom, so I had to install it from 40 floppies.
Thanks for this video, it's a good walk through of how to get up and running, particularly for those of us who are used to distros that boot directly to the GUI and have created a user during the installation process. Nice to see how to do those steps manually.!
It has been a number of years since my first foray into Linux. This grandfather of all distros predates that by probably as many years if not more (too lazy to do the math at this time). I started with Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron). How the Linux landscape has changed in that time. How much it had ALREADY changed since Slack was new kid. Whatever your flavour, Slackware deserves respect for being the first.
Ah yes my first distro. It brings back memories lol
Hey shoutout to the installer.....I have named my computer DarkStar since 2000.
Well, how easy it is!!!
I am sure the neophytes will enjoy.
I started with Slackware, went to several distros from Debian to OpenSUSE, Fedora, Gentoo, Arch and finally found out that Slackware is made for me.. or I am made for Slackware 👍
I totally adhere to the Slackware’s philosophy. Just install what you need and use the free space for what you want.
And I also have to say that the manuals are really everywhere for everything. And you can’t talk about Slackware without mentioning Alien Bob 👌😄
Btw there’s a live iso from Alien Bob that makes the installation really easy and the repository mirror is already enabled, but you can still change it in the config file. There’s also the multilib mirror and Slackpkg+ that adds update/install support for the multilib. I must admit that Alien Bob made life easier and does a really great job 👏
I recommend to anyone who wants to try Slackware and isn’t familiar with it, to get Alien Bob’s live iso
The only drawback as a gamer is that I had to compile Feral gamemode as it can’t be found in any repo yet. Otherwise everything else is fine
Slackware my favorite distro. My distrohopping ended on slackware current.
lilo is ancient to think they still use that ancient bootloader
One can use GRUB and it is possible to do it during the installation or afterwards.
The beauty of it is that you can do whatever you want, but the degree of hand-holding varies with what you choose to do with Slackware.
you can also use SYSLINUX
We must respect our elders.Much respect to slackware.
I subscribe to your channel by two reasons: excellent contents and an English pronunciation that I understand perfectly. Where are you from?. New York?
I installed Slackware 13.37 and bought the T-shirt....just because I could. 😉
Slackware, finally
LOL... i haven't used slackware since 2002-2004! Thanks for the spotlight on an old friend =P
Slackware is my 1st GNU/Linux distribution that I ever installed in 2005 and also 1st time using something else than Microsoft Windows.
#DTIsNotBald #BaldByChoice
Slackware was the first Linux distribution I ever really loved way back in the 90s. Thank you for getting us up to speed on what's happening with it now.
This is an absolutely excellent video. This has all of the commands I used to know back in college, many years ago. Do you have one for Arch Linux ?
The first distro I used was slackware, over 20 years ago. moved on to Red Hat then eventually fulltime on Ubuntu, Mint and now Garuda
To say that you post videos just about every other day, I see very few of them. I just realized when one of your videos got recommended to me from another video from a different subscriber, that I actually hadn't gotten any of your stuff on my YT front page for so long that I forgot you existed. Literally. Wtf TH-cam?
Fun fact; Slackware is as old as the Groundhog Day movie
Fun Fact: Slackware is not old as Bob. Praise Bob!!!!
Slackware was the distro I leaned Linux on back in the early 90s. I remember being at a computer show and seeing a disk set and saying to myself, this looks user-friendly. Boy was I in for a surprise.
Man this brings me back.
I ran slack for a few years in 2006-2010.
So, DT, you didn't need to install a boot partition when you installed this on your VM? I am reckoning if you're installing this on actual hardware that has OSes on other drives, you would need to do this correct?
"You will lose your present job and have to become a door to door mayonnaise salesman" is the best welcome prompt I've ever seen a computer give anyone.
DT you make it look so easy,Nice vid.
It is easy if you're somewhat familiar with linux
The first time I tried Slackware, I had to install it from 30 floppy disks.
I remember Slackware my second distro that "pushed" me to learn how to compile vanilla kernel because stock Slackware kernel was too old. That knowledge worth fortune because compiling kernel manually was introduced me to various linux technology, i.e. I was really excited with linux bridge project and powerful iptables possibilities (this is way before Mikrotik even exist).
They still use LILOÖ what a surprise. I used to think that it's abandoned and no longer used
Hi DT! In most distros, the more important function of being in 'wheel' is to be able to 'su' to root. The sudoers file can also permit based on being in the wheel group, but does not always do so. For example, debian usually uses a seperate, dedicated 'sudo' group for permissions by default.
Usually no permissions are required to invoke su.
Installed Slackware in a Virtualbox while watching this, and figured "ah, 20GB should be enough for the disk" - Little did I know that would install more software than I thought was physically possible to fit onto that ISO. I pretty much filled my VHD on a stock install!
It feels extremely nostalgic even just messing around with it. I'm using XFCE, and it kinda reminds me of the retro feel of early RHEL or Debian releases back before Ubuntu came along. It's an uncompromising time capsule to the feel of Linux's earlier days, while still being built on modern, up-to-date foundations. Don't think I've seen any other distribution quite like it.
What's funny is that this video is still relevant today for Slackware. 😀
Explained in great detail! Thank you so much!!
Slackware... my first love.
Nice, I might install Slackware in a vm today to play around with it after seeing this guide
Slackware is like quartz sand. Whether you roll up your sleeves and learn how to blow glass out of it, or make a castle in the sand, that the next wind / tide will wash out, is entirely up to you.
No other distro has that much flexibility, to make the OS a reflection of the user, and not have the user the reflection of the OS.
And, resoundingly YES, it was worth the wait
Thank you for the informative video. No could not be bothered installing or using a OS with this much terminal work these days. Reminds me when I worked on Centigram voicemails running QNX.
Thanks DT. I may experiment with it a bit.
You can make this very fast and stable for the average joe if you use flatpaks with discover. The pain in the ass part is to keep the base system upgraded for them. It’s a strange distribution I wound not say this is hard to use. I like the old fashioned ways still relevant in 2022.
Slackware was my first distribution that I installed :)
Looks very similar to Gentoo - only difference there of course is that Gentoo actually *does* resolve dependencies automatically, albeit in a very crude manner by compiling everything from source one package at a time. Does improve inter-architecture portability that way though.
6:38 DT, thanks for your work.
Did you know that GPT tables work with BIIS as well as UFI ?
I was just looking it up and Brave's AI provided the summary so 😊 it could be wrong.
I thought I should comment here and maybe you could give feedback.
Is DOS better for virtual machines or something?
I love the breakdown on fdisk
I've used Slackware first time back in the '90s :) One of my first memories is when i accidentally pressed Enter on some mp3 (or maybe it was a wav?) while browsing in Midnight Commander. And it started to play this mp3. In text mode. Without any previous soundcard configuration. I was in completely awe :)
PS. It's still using LILO?!? Real oldschool! :D
I like that Blackbox is still in there.