it amazes me how all these commentators can watch magnus play, use an engine while watching, and STILL not see what Magnus is up to half the time. Amazing stuff, inhuman
@@melsoso1863 objectively not true. That depends on both the stage of the game and the time remaining on the players' clock. Many slight inaccuracies hapoened even in this game.
At the beginning of the video Hikaru says it will be a draw and talks about what can be done to make classical chess more exciting. Magnus and Nepo proceed to play the most exciting game ever.
@@niagra898 when did he say that, can you be specific? It's a 6 hour long video. You can basically make him commit hate speech with the amount of words he would've used in this video.
@@niagra898 Hatred? How is he hateful toward Magnus when his thumbnail literally says "Magnus shows us all why he's World Champion"? That sounds like praise instead of hatred.
@@niagra898 bro you didnt watch 5 mins of the stream lmaooo you are just a sad hater, Im pretty sure hikaru praised magnus so many times, dont know exact time stamps but I watched yesterday on twitch. Most of the time he said its 75% magnus win 25% draw And then kept changing his mind to draw/magnus win depending on position He said many many times 'thats why magnus is the best' etc.
Hikaru a top gm said plenty of times this is a draw. Nepo played incredible. What Magnus did was both human (because he made mistakes) and incredible(because of the precision and grind). This game was everything.
3:46:50 top gm nakamura says Magnus has 66% chance to win 33% chance draw even thou the position is dead equal. They built different and can sense when Magnus wins or draws
@@noobmasteryoyo5136 as the position changes Hikaru calculates and changes his prediction….. not surprising he changed his opinion. Also, Hikaru is pretty notorious for talking in circles.. I think he is incredibly talented and I enjoy a lot of his content but he repeats himself A LOT and talks in circles… the resources in his brain are dedicated almost entirely to chess and barely any go towards speaking clearly.
this was the first win in 5 yea at the worlds. The game would have been a draw but for a blunder that made it so Ian had to play 50 perfect moves. of course the game wont be a draw if there is a blunder that doesn't mean saying it will be a draw is wrong, it was the correct analysis at the time, should he have said "guys this wont be a draw if Ian blunders" the latter should go without saying.
@@f0lzen that's just not it. With accurate play this should've been a draw, it's just that the time crunch made Nepo blunder. Naka assessed the position correctly, it was supposed to be a draw.
"Its impossible to lose this" "A great decision by Ian" I can only imagine how difficult it was for Ian to lose in a game that, on their level, should apparently never be lost.
Once Ian was down to just a queen Magnus was just gonna play on and on and on until he broke through - he just had to push a pawn every 50 moves and Ian could do nothing about it. It was really just a matter of time before Ian made a mistake
This video really does prove why magnus is world champion and they are not. It's truly amazing magnus is so good that top players don't even understand his moves until he wins the game.
I believe you're mistaken, Hiki's analysis can only be as good as the moves the playesr make. Put simply if a player blunders and the result is a loss then Hiki's analysis that it will be a draw is not bad. For instance, if you're playing a game of chess as black and you're up a queen and 2 knights, and Hiki says " black has this game, this is certainly a win for black" then you proceed to blunder a queen and two knights, that wouldn't make HIki's analysis bad - it would make your play bad. So, when Ian blunders to lose that doesn't mean Hiki's analysis is bad. I hope you understand what im saying.
I saw the ending of this game live but I watched this entire video just to see Hikaru and chat go from draw draw draw so boring nothing to see here to MAGNUS IS THE GOAT 🐐
5:12:26 "Magnus doesn't deserve to win, Ian just fell asleep". Time travel in the past. It's a dead draw between Magnus and Hikaru then Hikaru cried before he resigned. I guess Hikaru fell asleep at that time like Ian also
@@아가생 he is just very salty and hates Hikaru and thinks that reminding that he cried over the board makes him a loser rather than an human being very passionate about this game
The chat was so disrespectful to Magnus from the start to almost the finish, and it got worse when he didn't find the winning idea with that little time on the board. I'm very ashamed of them. Players between the range of 500~1800 elo who seem to know more than one of the best that ever existed; calling him: trash, Magnus blunder, blundersen, Magnus bad... Some were writing: "how did this guy become world champion?" or "MAGNUS IS SO TRASH, FINALLY HE WON'T BE WC"... and the thing that really pissed me off was at 1:29:05 where "pepelag123" decided to mock Magnus representing him as a pepe gif going nuts. 0 respect for the chat. And I'm not even 2h in the live...
You've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well known is this: never say "no way Magnus is going to win this", when chess is on the line.
Spend 5 minutes and listen to caruana's comments during and after the game .. nepo took risks at a few points in the game, carlsen showed excellent technique and stamina. Enough of this "it's a draw", "he blundered", "this is insane" philistinic waste of people's time. It's a game, one player outplayed the other in an epic struggle. Kudos to both of them.
Since when has objective fact been philistinic? "It's a draw" - Yes, endgame is brute-force calculated to be a mathematical draw "He blundered" - Yes, he did. GM commentary at the time, engine analysis later, all unanimously agree Ian blundered "This is insane" - This one is subjective. But a 130+ move game being called insane is entirely reasonable "One playered outplayed the other" - If anything this is the philistinic take. Oh how simple it is to reduce all this complexity to simply "one player outplayed the other"! The only part that is interesting is *how*!
As a nat. master candidate I'm all praise for this commentator pair. Sadly I did found this stream only now, 2 days after the game (didn't understand Nakamura has more than one channel here). If I didn't know, I'd believe this was in fact a recap disguised to be a live-commentary. Nakamura is one of the rare commentators who brutally shows his strength and many times gives roughly the right evaluation is tens of seconds. Their evaluation of after ..Qe4? was as correct as was Hikaru's early forecast for the result in the 8th game. And for the whole match, I believe. One line where all the GM live commentators fellblindly into was attractive ..Bxb4 Rab2? Also Naka & Bok. But only they saw instantly Rd2 b4 ...Bxf2 =+. Rb6 Qc7 was spotted, as was ...Ba3 Ra1 Qg4!. All in all this was very healthy and tactically high level live analysis. Also impartial. Propably because there was no any 2300 ex- sport commentator to divert the analysis to sub 2300 items. In the end Nepo tried to defend by getting his queen in front of the white's army. Brute force stop by muscle power? Nakamura considered ..Qe6 pin for some seconds, then said.... "hmm, that doesn't feel right!" To go in front of the white pieces. Also the only commentator team, who live put doubt on Ian's ..h4 pawn trade. Wow. aruana is admirable in his sight, both tactical and positional. One of the most valuable commentators of this match - but Nakamura is simply fearsome in his speed & pragmatism. But that's why he has 600+ elo points more than me. these two were more like GM's playing, not two showpersons talking shiit. (yes.. I watched Naka's analysis on the 7th game... :-) "There's nothing interesting here, soon it'll be draw like this: ..." No sense concentrating in the game, but to chat. And so it was draw soon.). IMHO the best quality English-language live analysis on this 6th game. In accuracy-wise. And this was... let me count.. the 5th (!) I have went trough (I decided to steer clear of Anand & Musysystsuk, but hardly they fared any well in time-trouble stages).
This was such a kind comment - if you ever want a game with Hikaru, dm wanderingbishop (mod on twitch) and say Team Hikaru from youtube said you could have a game
Hikaru and Bok were wrong in almost ALL of their opinions (presumptious) and analysis. It started with them saying this is a boring time format and offered several ideas on changing a format for a tournament they will NEVER compete in. Followed by "this is a draw blah blah blah" Followed by predicting NONE of Magnus' moves and unironically predicting ALL of Ian's moves Followed by "why isn't Magnus making obvious moves" Followed by this is no longer boring, but exciting and scary Followed by stating all the pressure is on Magnus and none on Ian (which is exactly backwards) Followed by Ian is going to win (and not a draw now..?) The only thing correct is your title. Not only does Magnus go on to win this game.. but he crushed Ian's spirit. I am still a Hikaru fan! I just wanted to point out how silly GM's sound sometimes
Bok clearly is levels below Hikaru and definitely Benjamin. Most analysis here is done by Hikaru, with Bok just agreeing and not actually finding calculations of his own because he's not strong enough
GMs should focus on the psychological impact in-game and not just did they follow the engine-lines or not. Magnus clearly loves long complex endgames and trying to lure opponents into making errors, and was testing Ian to the limit, but no mention of that from any GMs in any of the livestreams, apart from the David Howell one. Both of them were tested to the limit, it was an immense battle. Very few GMs have played for the World Championship and knows what it takes and the pressure involved, and it shows.
you're implying you know more than the GMs, which is naive. Your claim is no one is focusing "on the psychological impact in-game and not just did they follow the engine-lines or not" yet how do you know that they should be focusing on that? You believe you know what they should be focusing on yet how do you know this? have you played in the world championship before?
I hope you are right that this loss might open the games up for a bit more brutality, excitement and drama, then again I think it would be a much better idea for Ian to play solid, and yes I know, too draw the next few games. Then when he is down to his last 3 games he should go all out to try to win one.
To be fair Magnus' prime was 2019 and currently he is not even in his top form but still leading the world championship it speaks about the 2855(top 2882) rating.
They really disrespect the players all game long. By saying . That's weird. How can he do this. They didn't even consider H4 move although they had plenty time with the engine BB has said 125 times it's a draw before move 40 meanwhile magnus trying everything to find anything that keeps the game going. Not even thinking about draws.
he's always like this in all streams. normal people can see that he is kinda jealous of magnus, not hating on hikaru i still like him. but his fanbase can be kind of irritating sometimes
After Game 5 of the World Championship of Chess, Andrea Botez of the popular Chess Channel _BotezLive_ asked Magnus Carlsen, "How does the Knight move?" After the interview, he told her privately, "Watch your step, sister; I'll show you _exactly_ how the Knight moves, in Game 6!" 🐴 🦓 🐎 - j q t - I woke last night to the sound of thunder How far off I sat and wondered? Started hummin' a song from 1962 Ain't it funny how the night moves? When you just don't seem to have as much to lose Strange how the night moves - - - - Bob Seger, "Night Moves" (1976) - - - -
Following their comments about “6 months to prepare”, what if the match was pre-scheduled for 2 months after the qualifying tournament, all the details pre-established. That would reduce the scope for too-deep analysis of the opponent.
But then you are not actually seeing the very best of both players. Things like giving less time to play or less preparation just makes it so the players play worse which makes no sense, I want to see the very best ideas that got these people at the top of the world
It very different shouting out a move and actually playing it. Don’t you think Magnus also analysed those moves? But he has to make an assessment on whether to play it or not, take a risk. As a commentator you can just shout moves risk free.
@@praveenrawat6574 he was not, he has the computer lines turned off by default and activate them when he wants to check something. Of course you can say that he lies about it but he also suggested a lot of moves that were incorrect after analyzing them for a bit of after checking stockfish
I don't know how GM bok says that 'it lot of time for a classical world championship' and 'we just getting excited by only +0.10' I love to see him play against magnus. If it's too much time he surely can hold against magnus and also can easily draw that kind of position if it's only +0.10. Also how bok says 'it's easy just do this and this and nothing more than a draw' triggering so much like if he is the challenger he would have been beat magnus 3 times with white and draw 3 with black by now. And please stop saying chess championship has to move in rapid and blizz like we don't have world championship that. If don't like it stop streaming classical chess and play rapid and cut the attitude of just another draw.
Magnus is a strong enough chess player that he can actually Break another top level chess player. Magnus Broke Ian. If you don't understand this then you have a Fundamental Misunderstanding of CHESS
Hikaru: "Yeah but I just don't see how this is winning for Magnus" Well that's why you aren't World Champion lol. This is literally Magnus' bread and butter
What? This was literally a drawn position until like move 120. Yes Magnus plays well in these positions, but he won due to Nepo's blunder. Nowhere near his "bread and butter". Jesus Magnus fanboys are another breed.
@@Frandahab no shit sherlock. For ANYONE to win a chess game, their opponent has to make a mistake. Humans are bound to make mistakes and thats why engines are 800 elo higher rated than our very best human. So sitting in your basement saying one person only won because the other guy made a blunder that only computers can see is just dumb. How else is one human supposed to beat another human if there are no objective inaccuracies from both parties?
The more i look at your comment the more i think you should never watch this high level chess game and high lv commentary, bcs you clearly didnt understand what's your watching
When you understand the Square of the Pawn you can defeat him. You are the pawn and he the king, but you know the square of the pawn and this is how you shall defeat him. The road ahead of you has many complications but you are the passed pawn…the peasant…the pleasant! You know the square of the pawn! YOU ARE THE SQUARE OF THE PAWN!
I think that the frequency of use of the word ‘‘like’ in [American] speech is inversely proportional to IQ, regardless of whether you may be good at chess or no...
what a horrible take, so you're saying Hiki's IQ is low bc he says like a lot? If you seriously think that then, perhaps, you should worry about you own IQ being low.
Irregardless of this being true or not, I find this take interesting. The issue is that culture & dialects serves as a strong factor to your speech, however to your point intellect definitely dictates to what degree (and What!) you adopt from your surroundings, even in speech. Hikaru has an incredible ability of pattern recognition, but having seen countless hours of him talking, he has a lower/average emotinal intellect.
@@rasmus5341 You have to be kidding me! 'Irregardless'? This ridiculous 'word' that some ignorant seems to have come up with is not only superfluous but it is self-contradictory, as the prefix 'i' is used to denote the opposite of the rest of the word (as in 'im-possible'. Here the 'm' is added to provide a smoother enunciation. Another example is 'irresistible', etc). It seems someone could not make up their mind as to whether to use the word 'irrespective', or the word 'regardless (which, I believe, is the one you are looking for), and so came up with the Frankensteinish abomination 'irregardless'...It shows that people don't read anymore, and if they do, it's all the wrong things...
@@KaneYork That's what some people say. It seems to me, though, that no matter whether people use 'um' or 'like', it still makes for simply awful and utterly unintelligent speech.
again nice to see chess analysis but also talking about the chess tidbits around the games and tournaments. That is of great interest for patzers like us.
it seems a lot of ppl have turned on Levy, he got quite popular on twitch and now i see a lot of ppl talking down on him, for instance chessbrah was saying it's a shame that Levy represents chess and basically that levy is a joke. They think his tweets and videos are not sophisticated and essentially are a mockery to chess. I'm not sure if Hiki feels that way but it's possible.
OMG!! I think Hikaru found the solution. Eliminate the amount of time the players have to prepare for the match. That is the only fair way and that makes it so its really more up to the player and less on the player's seconds and engine usage.
Every game has been basically dead even up until Ian's blunder in the last game that made it essentially impossible for him to win unless he played 50 perfect moves in a row. So him saying it's a draw the entire time is just what is currently the most likely result.
Yes that was impressive, they say it was still a draw after this but Magnus did a great job maneuvering his pieces to get the correct exchange and simplify. Then the way he brought all that together at the end is just stunning. I think he could beat me with just one of each piece minus his queen, with time odds.
Okay one minute and a half was enough. "He's probably thinking how to make a draw". I think he was thinking how to win the game. Reading some comments here doesn't really give any reason to continue listening to this commentary either.
I had to try the suggested ...Qf2 idea instead of Nepo's ...Qe6. Some other review mentioned that ...Qf2 was not one of the tablebase moves. My engine testing came up with Nh5 by Magnus with an idea similar to the game. e.g. ...Qf2/Nh5 Qg1/Rf6. Pieces are one rank less advanced but it is the same pattern. So we can continue ...Ke7/Kh4 etc.
Yo im a little sad that hikaru is not listening half the time what Benjamin Bok is talking, he is just like right agree thats crazy hahahaha but never genuine responses.
Keep it best out of 12 classic games and than if it's a draw play best out of 3 chess 960 and change the time controls slightly. Maybe 35 moves for first 2 hours as there won't be real opening prep. Just a thought.
@@josemanuico5613 yeah, but its more because the time management tbh rather than the time format. 1-3 minutes/move is alot compared to usual time/move in blitz.
it amazes me how all these commentators can watch magnus play, use an engine while watching, and STILL not see what Magnus is up to half the time. Amazing stuff, inhuman
That's because Magnus and nepo both blundered
Man the engine is completely different to chess
@@melsoso1863 LoL, blubbered with over 98 percent accuracy over 137(274 combined) moves. Yeah!
@@mayank080193 at this level, don't even think about blunder, you just need to make a slight inaccuracy and you're done
@@melsoso1863 objectively not true. That depends on both the stage of the game and the time remaining on the players' clock. Many slight inaccuracies hapoened even in this game.
At the beginning of the video Hikaru says it will be a draw and talks about what can be done to make classical chess more exciting.
Magnus and Nepo proceed to play the most exciting game ever.
Yeah and if they ask Magnus a real question like why he didn't play e3 he'll say because i wanted to win
@@niagra898 when did he say that, can you be specific? It's a 6 hour long video. You can basically make him commit hate speech with the amount of words he would've used in this video.
@@niagra898 Hatred? How is he hateful toward Magnus when his thumbnail literally says "Magnus shows us all why he's World Champion"? That sounds like praise instead of hatred.
@@niagra898 bro you didnt watch 5 mins of the stream lmaooo you are just a sad hater, Im pretty sure hikaru praised magnus so many times, dont know exact time stamps but I watched yesterday on twitch. Most of the time he said its 75% magnus win 25% draw
And then kept changing his mind to draw/magnus win depending on position
He said many many times 'thats why magnus is the best' etc.
@@niagra898 creating drama? Lmao
Hikaru a top gm said plenty of times this is a draw. Nepo played incredible. What Magnus did was both human (because he made mistakes) and incredible(because of the precision and grind). This game was everything.
3:46:50 top gm nakamura says Magnus has 66% chance to win 33% chance draw even thou the position is dead equal.
They built different and can sense when Magnus wins or draws
@@cyruswang9354 2:53:20 i mean even earlier.
@@cyruswang9354 As someone said in chat, Hikaru was changing his predictions every 20 minutes, so of course you can find where he got it "right"
@@noobmasteryoyo5136 well compare that to previous streams where he just kept on saying draw
@@noobmasteryoyo5136 as the position changes Hikaru calculates and changes his prediction….. not surprising he changed his opinion. Also, Hikaru is pretty notorious for talking in circles.. I think he is incredibly talented and I enjoy a lot of his content but he repeats himself A LOT and talks in circles… the resources in his brain are dedicated almost entirely to chess and barely any go towards speaking clearly.
Hikaru repeatedly telling himself it’s a draw 😂
this was the first win in 5 yea at the worlds. The game would have been a draw but for a blunder that made it so Ian had to play 50 perfect moves. of course the game wont be a draw if there is a blunder that doesn't mean saying it will be a draw is wrong, it was the correct analysis at the time, should he have said "guys this wont be a draw if Ian blunders" the latter should go without saying.
4:10:43 "That's not suffering." And it was in this position Nepo began to suffer
Hikaru said the word "draw" 69,420 times in this video
it is cuz he hates Magnus and he wanted to be a draw so much but Magnus is the goat you know
Reddit moment
@@f0lzen Magnus won because Nepo blundered, position was 0.0 until move 125
@@f0lzen that's just not it. With accurate play this should've been a draw, it's just that the time crunch made Nepo blunder. Naka assessed the position correctly, it was supposed to be a draw.
@@praveenrawat6574 cause he human
"Its impossible to lose this" "A great decision by Ian" I can only imagine how difficult it was for Ian to lose in a game that, on their level, should apparently never be lost.
in a normal match wtih fresh minds maybe, after hours of on the table chess? thats what nobody is really prepared of.
magnus is way above anyone in this game
@@notcheeejoeee4333 ive never lost against him though
@@nuggystan9128 in your dreams?
Once Ian was down to just a queen Magnus was just gonna play on and on and on until he broke through - he just had to push a pawn every 50 moves and Ian could do nothing about it. It was really just a matter of time before Ian made a mistake
2:59:10 -ish
Hikaru: "I don't see how Nepo ever wins"
Wow, burn.
He was talking aboutonly that match scenario...
@@rishabhroy7740 Thanks for stating the obvious
This video really does prove why magnus is world champion and they are not. It's truly amazing magnus is so good that top players don't even understand his moves until he wins the game.
I believe you're mistaken, Hiki's analysis can only be as good as the moves the playesr make. Put simply if a player blunders and the result is a loss then Hiki's analysis that it will be a draw is not bad. For instance, if you're playing a game of chess as black and you're up a queen and 2 knights, and Hiki says " black has this game, this is certainly a win for black" then you proceed to blunder a queen and two knights, that wouldn't make HIki's analysis bad - it would make your play bad. So, when Ian blunders to lose that doesn't mean Hiki's analysis is bad. I hope you understand what im saying.
I saw the ending of this game live but I watched this entire video just to see Hikaru and chat go from draw draw draw so boring nothing to see here to MAGNUS IS THE GOAT 🐐
Same here
It might be boring to sit through, but being able to skip to key moments afterwards is where the excitement is imo.
Kramnik and Svidler were the only ones who insisted Nepo's position was troublesome throughout the last few hours of the game.
Anand as well
Hikaru at 12:20 said Ian was in trouble
@@jesusthroughmary that was ages before the endgame which was thought to be a draw
@@parth-fm9mh it was stupid for everyone to say it was a draw just because it was a tablebase draw, like humans aren't computers
@@jesusthroughmary I'm just pointing out that Hikaru didn't say Ian was in trouble for most of the game
5:12:26 "Magnus doesn't deserve to win, Ian just fell asleep". Time travel in the past. It's a dead draw between Magnus and Hikaru then Hikaru cried before he resigned. I guess Hikaru fell asleep at that time like Ian also
what point are you even trying to make?
@@아가생
His point is that Magnus deserves all the credit for this win and Hikaru is trying to diminish it for whatever reason
@@grizzpy9995 yeah thats what i thought but i don’t get what hikaru losing a game in a similar way has to do with that
@@아가생 he’s relating to what Naka said and what happened between him and Magnus lol. I hope you understand the OP’s comment now
@@아가생 he is just very salty and hates Hikaru and thinks that reminding that he cried over the board makes him a loser rather than an human being very passionate about this game
The chat was so disrespectful to Magnus from the start to almost the finish, and it got worse when he didn't find the winning idea with that little time on the board. I'm very ashamed of them. Players between the range of 500~1800 elo who seem to know more than one of the best that ever existed; calling him: trash, Magnus blunder, blundersen, Magnus bad... Some were writing: "how did this guy become world champion?" or "MAGNUS IS SO TRASH, FINALLY HE WON'T BE WC"... and the thing that really pissed me off was at 1:29:05 where "pepelag123" decided to mock Magnus representing him as a pepe gif going nuts. 0 respect for the chat. And I'm not even 2h in the live...
Its the internet, what did you expected?
@@cuneytunsal5422 yeah, it's just stupid to think that people have some type of logical intelligence.
Hikaru’s chat has always been a cesspool
Don't worry about it. Just jealousy.
5:10:03
He played the exact line as the game and says he has no idea lol
Lol, what a funny thing. How cant he remember? Wow 🤮🤢
You've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well known is this: never say "no way Magnus is going to win this", when chess is on the line.
Next question for Magnus: do you know what a draw is?
5:14:00
“Magnus just outplayed Magnus”
Congratulations, you played yourself.
Edit: the exact time is 5:13:57
I know you’re joking but they were talking for 5 hours
It's 5:13:56
@@PranavKumar-os6xl cool
I knew it wasn’t exact
The true secret of chess
Spend 5 minutes and listen to caruana's comments during and after the game .. nepo took risks at a few points in the game, carlsen showed excellent technique and stamina. Enough of this "it's a draw", "he blundered", "this is insane" philistinic waste of people's time. It's a game, one player outplayed the other in an epic struggle. Kudos to both of them.
Since when has objective fact been philistinic?
"It's a draw" - Yes, endgame is brute-force calculated to be a mathematical draw
"He blundered" - Yes, he did. GM commentary at the time, engine analysis later, all unanimously agree Ian blundered
"This is insane" - This one is subjective. But a 130+ move game being called insane is entirely reasonable
"One playered outplayed the other" - If anything this is the philistinic take. Oh how simple it is to reduce all this complexity to simply "one player outplayed the other"! The only part that is interesting is *how*!
The fact they dont understand why Magnus is taking so much time just proves why he is the champion.
4:47:00 hikaru still saying magnus is not winning. its amazing to see what magnus can do and other super GMs cant
4:51:10 hikaru says its a draw haha
I mean it is a draw with perfect play according to the tablebase so he isn't wrong
Magnus doesn't believe in fortresses, he turns them into battering rams lol
5:16:02
Drinking game for Hikaru saying “draw”
That's impossible to survive
exactly why the title is the way it is
Carlsen is at another level. Not like the days of Botvinnik when he was the best among equals.
As a nat. master candidate I'm all praise for this commentator pair. Sadly I did found this stream only now, 2 days after the game (didn't understand Nakamura has more than one channel here). If I didn't know, I'd believe this was in fact a recap disguised to be a live-commentary.
Nakamura is one of the rare commentators who brutally shows his strength and many times gives roughly the right evaluation is tens of seconds. Their evaluation of after ..Qe4? was as correct as was Hikaru's early forecast for the result in the 8th game. And for the whole match, I believe.
One line where all the GM live commentators fellblindly into was attractive ..Bxb4 Rab2? Also Naka & Bok. But only they saw instantly Rd2 b4 ...Bxf2 =+. Rb6 Qc7 was spotted, as was ...Ba3 Ra1 Qg4!. All in all this was very healthy and tactically high level live analysis. Also impartial. Propably because there was no any 2300 ex- sport commentator to divert the analysis to sub 2300 items.
In the end Nepo tried to defend by getting his queen in front of the white's army. Brute force stop by muscle power? Nakamura considered ..Qe6 pin for some seconds, then said.... "hmm, that doesn't feel right!" To go in front of the white pieces. Also the only commentator team, who live put doubt on Ian's ..h4 pawn trade. Wow.
aruana is admirable in his sight, both tactical and positional. One of the most valuable commentators of this match - but Nakamura is simply fearsome in his speed & pragmatism. But that's why he has 600+ elo points more than me. these two were more like GM's playing, not two showpersons talking shiit. (yes.. I watched Naka's analysis on the 7th game... :-) "There's nothing interesting here, soon it'll be draw like this: ..." No sense concentrating in the game, but to chat. And so it was draw soon.).
IMHO the best quality English-language live analysis on this 6th game. In accuracy-wise. And this was... let me count.. the 5th (!) I have went trough (I decided to steer clear of Anand & Musysystsuk, but hardly they fared any well in time-trouble stages).
This was such a kind comment - if you ever want a game with Hikaru, dm wanderingbishop (mod on twitch) and say Team Hikaru from youtube said you could have a game
@@MoreGMHikaru Thank you!
@@HiReeZindid u play him?
5:13:56 magnus just outplayed magnus
Funny and awesome to watch Magnus absolutely owning absolutely everyone.
"There is no way Magnus wins" Hikaru 2021 4:18:36
Magnus’s end game is very amazing.
karpov is better 🥴
@@dhruvyadav7715Magnus beat him when he was 13 years old
39:14 “it’s impossible to lose in my opinion”
That's why he isn't the champion
You put a timestamp of a sentence that Hikaru said while analyzing a sideline that didn't happen on the board. Are you for real
@@mabel3989 and 31 idiots upvote it ... says a lot. So many haters in the comments.
Hikaru and Bok were wrong in almost ALL of their opinions (presumptious) and analysis.
It started with them saying this is a boring time format and offered several ideas on changing a format for a tournament they will NEVER compete in.
Followed by "this is a draw blah blah blah"
Followed by predicting NONE of Magnus' moves and unironically predicting ALL of Ian's moves
Followed by "why isn't Magnus making obvious moves"
Followed by this is no longer boring, but exciting and scary
Followed by stating all the pressure is on Magnus and none on Ian (which is exactly backwards)
Followed by Ian is going to win (and not a draw now..?)
The only thing correct is your title.
Not only does Magnus go on to win this game.. but he crushed Ian's spirit.
I am still a Hikaru fan! I just wanted to point out how silly GM's sound sometimes
Bok clearly is levels below Hikaru and definitely Benjamin. Most analysis here is done by Hikaru, with Bok just agreeing and not actually finding calculations of his own because he's not strong enough
@@sheehabmahdizaman7548 bok is a solid 2600 rated gm. He is definitely capable of providing solid analysis for a wcc game.
GMs should focus on the psychological impact in-game and not just did they follow the engine-lines or not. Magnus clearly loves long complex endgames and trying to lure opponents into making errors, and was testing Ian to the limit, but no mention of that from any GMs in any of the livestreams, apart from the David Howell one.
Both of them were tested to the limit, it was an immense battle.
Very few GMs have played for the World Championship and knows what it takes and the pressure involved, and it shows.
you're implying you know more than the GMs, which is naive. Your claim is no one is focusing "on the psychological impact in-game and not just did they follow the engine-lines or not" yet how do you know that they should be focusing on that? You believe you know what they should be focusing on yet how do you know this? have you played in the world championship before?
*Yaa/Yeah* counter by Hikaru and benjman : 6942000
I hope you are right that this loss might open the games up for a bit more brutality, excitement and drama, then again I think it would be a much better idea for Ian to play solid, and yes I know, too draw the next few games. Then when he is down to his last 3 games he should go all out to try to win one.
How many Game sdo they play overall?
@@HolyNarz 12 classical, if the score is tied, they play 3 rapids, if tie again: armageddon.
@@teogarciav it's 14 classical
this did not age exceedingly well...
This is a PERFECT example of someone who thinks they know everything and use the phrase "100 percent", "there's no way" too much.
51:10
AnimoFtv: Magnus will win I bet 100 bucks.
Confidence paid off...
At 20:00 they look like beginners haha. Where's old magnus? Don't worry haha he s there all the time 😂
To be fair Magnus' prime was 2019 and currently he is not even in his top form but still leading the world championship it speaks about the 2855(top 2882) rating.
I want old Hikaru as well, not this streamer Hikaru.
People shitting on hikaru for saying draw watch this 5:16:08
Hikaru: "this should be pretty quick"
We all watched history today
They really disrespect the players all game long. By saying . That's weird. How can he do this.
They didn't even consider H4 move although they had plenty time with the engine
BB has said 125 times it's a draw before move 40 meanwhile magnus trying everything to find anything that keeps the game going. Not even thinking about draws.
he's always like this in all streams. normal people can see that he is kinda jealous of magnus, not hating on hikaru i still like him. but his fanbase can be kind of irritating sometimes
56:49 lol
from hikaru's lines you can see how solid magnus's technique was in that endgame to convert this game
After Game 5 of the World Championship of Chess, Andrea Botez of the popular Chess Channel _BotezLive_ asked Magnus Carlsen, "How does the Knight move?"
After the interview, he told her privately, "Watch your step, sister; I'll show you _exactly_ how the Knight moves, in Game 6!" 🐴 🦓 🐎 - j q t -
I woke last night to the sound of thunder
How far off I sat and wondered?
Started hummin' a song from 1962
Ain't it funny how the night moves?
When you just don't seem to have as much to lose
Strange how the night moves
- - - - Bob Seger, "Night Moves" (1976) - - - -
are u on discord
5 hours with 2 ads every 1,5 minute? Unwatchable
The chat saying Blunderson was super irritating, losers.
I wish they didn’t have engine bar up, it empowers the 800’s in chat to give their opinion 🙄
Following their comments about “6 months to prepare”, what if the match was pre-scheduled for 2 months after the qualifying tournament, all the details pre-established. That would reduce the scope for too-deep analysis of the opponent.
But then you are not actually seeing the very best of both players. Things like giving less time to play or less preparation just makes it so the players play worse which makes no sense, I want to see the very best ideas that got these people at the top of the world
it blows me away that hikaru was finding critical moves instantly, like ...Bb2 and Rcc2, that were missed by both Nepo and Magnus
If only he was as good at finding them when it counts. Maybe he would be in Nepo's spot instead.
He is using engine which suggests top moves and then he explains the line why they are good.
@@chrismatheson4729 don't be toxic, but you are right 😂
It very different shouting out a move and actually playing it. Don’t you think Magnus also analysed those moves? But he has to make an assessment on whether to play it or not, take a risk. As a commentator you can just shout moves risk free.
@@praveenrawat6574 he was not, he has the computer lines turned off by default and activate them when he wants to check something. Of course you can say that he lies about it but he also suggested a lot of moves that were incorrect after analyzing them for a bit of after checking stockfish
Please do a double stream pls stream both on youtube and twitch pls, your coverage is imo the best but i cant watch it on twitch
35::00, to Bok: the audience is not composed by over 2000 Elo people only
Hikarus’s expression on the thumbnail is great.
5:15:36 u're welcome
"yeah"
4:10:15. Best part of this whole stream. Haha. Love it.
I don't know how GM bok says that 'it lot of time for a classical world championship' and 'we just getting excited by only +0.10'
I love to see him play against magnus. If it's too much time he surely can hold against magnus and also can easily draw that kind of position if it's only +0.10.
Also how bok says 'it's easy just do this and this and nothing more than a draw' triggering so much like if he is the challenger he would have been beat magnus 3 times with white and draw 3 with black by now.
And please stop saying chess championship has to move in rapid and blizz like we don't have world championship that. If don't like it stop streaming classical chess and play rapid and cut the attitude of just another draw.
He's getting assist from engine. Look how he switches from his tabs by the reflection of lights
Is it me or is the audio not working?
It's working
Volume is a bit low
Working for me
Not working
Magnus is a strong enough chess player that he can actually Break another top level chess player. Magnus Broke Ian. If you don't understand this then you have a Fundamental Misunderstanding of CHESS
"I think it's going to be over in like 20 minutes"
Also 2 hrs later 😂
I wish the engine didn’t exist, simply ruins authentic chess commentary.
Bok: "Did Magnus blunder".🤨🤭 "Nepo smells blood". 🤦♂️😆
Hikaru: "Yeah but I just don't see how this is winning for Magnus" Well that's why you aren't World Champion lol. This is literally Magnus' bread and butter
Not really. It's because they both blundered
What? This was literally a drawn position until like move 120. Yes Magnus plays well in these positions, but he won due to Nepo's blunder. Nowhere near his "bread and butter". Jesus Magnus fanboys are another breed.
Cringe
@@Frandahab no shit sherlock. For ANYONE to win a chess game, their opponent has to make a mistake. Humans are bound to make mistakes and thats why engines are 800 elo higher rated than our very best human.
So sitting in your basement saying one person only won because the other guy made a blunder that only computers can see is just dumb. How else is one human supposed to beat another human if there are no objective inaccuracies from both parties?
The more i look at your comment the more i think you should never watch this high level chess game and high lv commentary, bcs you clearly didnt understand what's your watching
How many times did they say the word 'draw'? It's all they know.
39:00
He said if he plays it from there without mistake it's impossible to lose, he didn't play perfectly.
3:50:30 Jibreel with the prime
37:52 🤔
Hey!!! In Dortmund you ll get food all night long!!!!! Just ask a taxi driver!!!
1:23:45
Just put it randomly, look there just for no reason
He is a wizard man, amazing chess from Magnus
When you understand the Square of the Pawn you can defeat him. You are the pawn and he the king, but you know the square of the pawn and this is how you shall defeat him. The road ahead of you has many complications but you are the passed pawn…the peasant…the pleasant! You know the square of the pawn! YOU ARE THE SQUARE OF THE PAWN!
To Naka: strong is not spelled shtrong
I think that the frequency of use of the word ‘‘like’ in [American] speech is inversely proportional to IQ, regardless of whether you may be good at chess or no...
There is research on filler utterances, they have always been around
'Like' simply replaces 'um'
what a horrible take, so you're saying Hiki's IQ is low bc he says like a lot? If you seriously think that then, perhaps, you should worry about you own IQ being low.
Irregardless of this being true or not, I find this take interesting.
The issue is that culture & dialects serves as a strong factor to your speech, however to your point intellect definitely dictates to what degree (and What!) you adopt from your surroundings, even in speech.
Hikaru has an incredible ability of pattern recognition, but having seen countless hours of him talking, he has a lower/average emotinal intellect.
@@rasmus5341 You have to be kidding me! 'Irregardless'? This ridiculous 'word' that some ignorant seems to have come up with is not only superfluous but it is self-contradictory, as the prefix 'i' is used to denote the opposite of the rest of the word (as in 'im-possible'. Here the 'm' is added to provide a smoother enunciation. Another example is 'irresistible', etc). It seems someone could not make up their mind as to whether to use the word 'irrespective', or the word 'regardless (which, I believe, is the one you are looking for), and so came up with the Frankensteinish abomination 'irregardless'...It shows that people don't read anymore, and if they do, it's all the wrong things...
@@KaneYork That's what some people say. It seems to me, though, that no matter whether people use 'um' or 'like', it still makes for simply awful and utterly unintelligent speech.
1:55:00
47:00
10k views and only 500 likes?
Changing the format out of classical is absolutely idiotic.
5:15:56 I re subscribed. 👏🏾 good form
again nice to see chess analysis but also talking about the chess tidbits around the games and tournaments. That is of great interest for patzers like us.
These two have zero chemistry. What happened to the collabs between Hikaru and Levy? Did they have a falling out? What about Anna?
it seems a lot of ppl have turned on Levy, he got quite popular on twitch and now i see a lot of ppl talking down on him, for instance chessbrah was saying it's a shame that Levy represents chess and basically that levy is a joke. They think his tweets and videos are not sophisticated and essentially are a mockery to chess. I'm not sure if Hiki feels that way but it's possible.
If I need help crossing the street with my family, I am asking Magnus
OMG!! I think Hikaru found the solution. Eliminate the amount of time the players have to prepare for the match. That is the only fair way and that makes it so its really more up to the player and less on the player's seconds and engine usage.
Where can we watch this live?
twitch.tv/gmhikaru - every tournament day at 4:30 am pacific - Team Hikaru
Hikaru all broadcast: its a draw chat, its a draw
Every game has been basically dead even up until Ian's blunder in the last game that made it essentially impossible for him to win unless he played 50 perfect moves in a row. So him saying it's a draw the entire time is just what is currently the most likely result.
@@miked3371 I just hate blanket statements like that. Caruana for example doesn't do this
4:02:55 always a draw, always a draw, always a draw... Famous last words
4:10:17
very nice prediction from benjamin bok
@@TheWaxlemon The suffering continues
Yes that was impressive, they say it was still a draw after this but Magnus did a great job maneuvering his pieces to get the correct exchange and simplify. Then the way he brought all that together at the end is just stunning. I think he could beat me with just one of each piece minus his queen, with time odds.
Thought this was gonna be a short 60 second clip based on the title ... lol amazing tho!
wow 5 hours les go
Okay one minute and a half was enough. "He's probably thinking how to make a draw". I think he was thinking how to win the game. Reading some comments here doesn't really give any reason to continue listening to this commentary either.
Precisely 😂😂😂😂
And This is why Magnus is World Champion, and Hikaru isn’t..
Draws have you go.
5hrs .. nice
Magnus trolled u
Keep it a worldly open arms field 🙂👍
I had to try the suggested ...Qf2 idea instead of Nepo's ...Qe6. Some other review mentioned that ...Qf2 was not one of the tablebase moves. My engine testing came up with Nh5 by Magnus with an idea similar to the game. e.g. ...Qf2/Nh5 Qg1/Rf6. Pieces are one rank less advanced but it is the same pattern. So we can continue ...Ke7/Kh4 etc.
Magnus da 🐐
Yo im a little sad that hikaru is not listening half the time what Benjamin Bok is talking, he is just like right agree thats crazy hahahaha but never genuine responses.
It should be a draw draw draw draw draw draw...draw draw....draw
Or after your style is beat right ?🙂
Keep it best out of 12 classic games and than if it's a draw play best out of 3 chess 960 and change the time controls slightly. Maybe 35 moves for first 2 hours as there won't be real opening prep. Just a thought.
Who won someone tell me fast so I don’t have to look through comments
Ofcourse magnus won
@@amritm5806 beautifully
Magnus won in a beautiful end game. Though ian said it was practically blitz and not a classical anymore and he has a point after all
@@josemanuico5613 yeah, but its more because the time management tbh rather than the time format. 1-3 minutes/move is alot compared to usual time/move in blitz.