Master rule 4 was a way to slow a lot of deck ... but deck with abuse of grave was a problem! Dandylion snow brillant fusion engin ..it was easy to finish with triple firewall + 1 or 2 disruptions
I hate links these days there all cheap easy summon extenders which make end boards too strong these days. Wish konami starts to slow down on link card support all the T1 decks these days are heavy link focused.
Things are too unfair and easily abuseable. There really needs to be more restrictions in place on: 1) summon requirements, 2) effect negation. Nibiru, DRNM, and Droplet or anything similar are just necessary evils to play modern decks. At least cards like Risen Dragite have a condition of needing a water monster in the GY to use its effect.
Dragite is really how most negates should be. Even dispater is actually a pretty well designed card. You just have one deck, and by extension, another synchro monster making it broken through one interaction
I think the biggest problem for snake eyes is promethean princess is a genetic link 3 that is an extender/recovery/interruption at ones. Why does that card exists?
Thank you, let’s stop blaming cards that aren’t the real issue, the real issue is snake eyes and it’s combo pieces, appo is the ONLY monster that allows me to get aroubd and even have a chance at beating a deck like that, but by all means lets ban it so everyone can play snake eyes mirror match, are we having fun now?
As soon as options appear for budget players, you get demands for bans. I won't be surprised when they do get banned since they're accessible. The simplest way to deal with Appolusa is Infinite Impermanence, Forbidden Droplets, and hell, even chalice. You can even use bait the Apolousa, then ghost ogre it
Theh need to if every deck was to stick to its own archetype i think dm would be viable he is literally the only one with his in archetype boss monster
I totally agree, those two monsters are really broken. Also, those two monsters boost going 1st like crazy when going 1st is already super strong. We should get more going 2nd extra deck monsters like knightmares, zeus, ty-phon and s:p.
@@_Sasuke_99 It's pretty much an i win button if you summon it. There's plenty of other going 2nd cards that reward link decks and deal with boards like zealantis and firewall dragon which aren't as free advantage. Borrelsword was also pretty aids but it couldn't deal with backrow and needed 3 monsters so it's just completely outclassed
Negate summon, use Imperm/Veiler or anything that targets a monster and negates it's effect after Accesscode resolves it's on summon effect to gain ATK? @@beautifulryann
I feel they want to keep IP for a while, espevially to sell SP reprint. But yea pretty good chance apo will be banned next banlist, as the remaining extra deck holy trinity left (alongside baronne and savage).
I think the problem is that a lot of todays achetype that can easily summon those staple (especially Apollousa) with only 1 card combo consistently. For Example: Snake-Eye, Fiendsmith, Millennium, etc.
They should just rework the rules. Game is beyond fixable without it. While i agree that you can ban some cards to make it a bit more playable, I do think a few bans wont achieve anything in the grand scheme of things. Konamis powercreep has gone to far for a long period of time now and the only way to nullify what theyve done is by changing the rules in which these cards function.
in order to fix the changes i think that need to happen 1-make special summon a resource AE make it like a summoning well of six points and you refresh at the end of turn 2-Limit hand trap cards that are splashable 3-Remove all omi type splashable omni negates 4-Make 1 negate for per archtype These type of changes would do better I think
The problems are generic staples yeah. But also decks like Snake Eye which spams enough monsters for an entire torunament room and has unfair mechanics, being AI generated
While I get where people are coming from (Apo is definitely annoying at the start of a format): in truth, Apo is only toxic when you have cards protecting it. I'd rather just ban only IP and be done with it, although banning Apo to promote extra deck diversity is also a fair reason imo.
We need dark barrier statue banned. It’s gotten as bad as floowander with wind statue with chimera abusing it. Even outside of chimera labrynth too. An ftk for non dark decks
Bit of a yugiboomer, but Master Duel's convinced me on links, for sure. Ip, Sp, Spright Elf, and Underworld Goddess. Such a perfect package, especially in any deck with some level 2s.
I agree that these generic extra deck monsters that are just busted have to go so I would like to see them banned but for some of them I would just want a change of their summoning requirements. I mainly mean card like borrelload savage, just put a rocket monster in his summoning requirements so that only its original deck can use it from now on, instead of banning it forever.
I suggest making a legendary cards ,which you can only use one of that category and adding extra monsters to that category, like legend cards in rush duel , so you will avoid banning cards or limitting them and you can resell the legend reprints , konami should start from here
What are you guys talking ? Baronne and Savage are banned because they are omni-negates and because they negate and destroy. Apollousa and Masquerena won't be banned.
I do agree that if appo and I:P get banned this could help the format a good bit, when you think about how people make boards they always just opt to go for: make one card combos for end board of appo, and other Omni negates then pass with like 2 hand traps left in hand, it’s the same thing every time, I’m pretty sure we all miss when we actually liked to use our in archetype boss monster because it’s actually fun to see what people come up with with strategies like that
Generic monsters ruin yugioh. They almost always become meta relevant and expensive then the cards to prevent that card from existing/stopping that cards effect becomes expensive and abused. Seriously the next time you look at a yugioh deck, are you playing the engine, the archetype or the generic extra deck?
@@autobotstarscream765 ??? I meant to say that handtraps are better than board breakers. Idk what you're talking about with the boomer board breakers thing
@@YGOKingPhil S:P on its own is obv better than I:P in a vacuum. If u ban S:P going 2nd loses a good tool while I:P the enabler of cringe will still exist to do BS in the future.
Hot take: Ban Snake-Eyes Flamberge Dragon and I:p. Honestly Losing apo makes nib stronger, and apo still struggles against non-monster distractions. I:p just keeps getting better overtime and it’s time to go.
how is apollousa broken when all you need is an imperm to make her a useless 0 ATK brick you invested FOUR MONSTERS into? its existance makes a TON of rogue decks playable. if you want to make yugioh as repetitive and boring as possible, ban apollousa
ip and apple also have the same issue as barone and savage where theyre better than 90% of link boss monsters cause why go into an archetypal boss that needs like 5 cards to make when you could just make ip and apple
I had the link starter deck before the packs came out. Mixed it with agents angels. Anyway, Masquerana & Apollousa (sp?) is a crazy common combo in something like ABC. But IDK if folks really play that deck anymore.
If Apo gets banned then i think Nib schould also go because if Apo is gone nibiru is basically an FTK against what feels like 85% of decks which is even less fun
And here we go with the same song and dance. Then next season these cards will be ruining Yu-Gi-Oh and and and on and on and on. .-. it's stupid Konami actually listens to this community full of tools
If you take away the synergy with ip, the only thing sp does to the opponent is temporarily banish their monster and itself. I would say that the ability to minimize the damage from cards like evenly is also pretty powerful, but this shines more when you have layered disruptions. Going second it can force out one disruption on summon and then remove another of the opponent's monster's temporarily.
Can't compare formula to IP. Formula is an insanely difficult to summon niche synchro, while IP just a generic "contact fusion" monster that summons another one with 2 built-in interruptions
@@yacine656That's why he said it shows how busted links are. The comparison shows how the concept of accessing an extra deck summoning method during the opponent's turn via monste effect is far more balanced when you are required to meet a total level requirement vs just "modern contact fusion." Well technically it would be comparing and contrasting.
For ruler, maybe after at least 2 years. They would probably nerf it in order to make it less generic, maybe by giving it the restrictions that the new chaos ma8n deck monsters have. Halq.Half.. maybe.
I have QCR Apo and IP in mail you guys better stfu - the "omni" bad cope already cucked me... just ban poplar and unban tear, non of these cards where an issue in the best of formats
Appolousa is for me one of the fair boss card...yes you can main this card in every deck but you still need 4 ressources to make this card...and she have alot of weakness.. Im agree with ip and even sp little knight
"Links will slow the game down"
You guys were so f*cking wrong
Actually it did until they made master rule changes
@@ThaRealElementXSpyral U lock: "we all love slow link formats"
In master rule 4 it definitely did
If pendulum was to fast, then why they make it in the first place 😂
Master rule 4 was a way to slow a lot of deck ... but deck with abuse of grave was a problem! Dandylion snow brillant fusion engin ..it was easy to finish with triple firewall + 1 or 2 disruptions
banning IP and Appolousa after they reprint the card and make it afordable look like a konami move. Rip budget player one again.
They did it with the last rarity collection with baronne and borreload. Seeing them in this set made me anticipate them being banned
both of those cards already had several prints and were very affordable. Rarity Collection was just to do premium rarities for the alternate arts.
Snake eye is a problem, we had apollo and IP for 5 years and none was crying about them
I agree
Remember when DragonRulers and Pepe were the anti-Christ? Look where we are now
Damn 💀😂
If Plushfire was still legal, I assure you it would be the anti-christ, especially at 3
we are fucked
LINKs the majority of the Generic Links are insane!
It's definitely getting banned look at all the reprints . They want buget players able to use before it goes away.
Konami is fully aware that they make OP chase cards to make big money - then ban it 1-2 years later. It's a tried and true gameplan
I hate links these days there all cheap easy summon extenders which make end boards too strong these days. Wish konami starts to slow down on link card support all the T1 decks these days are heavy link focused.
I wouldn't mind link extenders if it was for a explicitly link centric deck.
facts.. links need to be more restrictive when it comes to just contacting to make something like appo
Things are too unfair and easily abuseable. There really needs to be more restrictions in place on: 1) summon requirements, 2) effect negation. Nibiru, DRNM, and Droplet or anything similar are just necessary evils to play modern decks. At least cards like Risen Dragite have a condition of needing a water monster in the GY to use its effect.
Dragite is really how most negates should be. Even dispater is actually a pretty well designed card. You just have one deck, and by extension, another synchro monster making it broken through one interaction
@@chewdoom8415 magical muskteer is a good example of a fun strong control deck.
I think the biggest problem for snake eyes is promethean princess is a genetic link 3 that is an extender/recovery/interruption at ones.
Why does that card exists?
genetic is crazy but yea princess is dumb
to make fire playable. just ban apo and IP a wind and a dark monster and princess would be fine what are you gonna summon raging phoenix ?
Thank you, let’s stop blaming cards that aren’t the real issue, the real issue is snake eyes and it’s combo pieces, appo is the ONLY monster that allows me to get aroubd and even have a chance at beating a deck like that, but by all means lets ban it so everyone can play snake eyes mirror match, are we having fun now?
As a branded player I see this as a absolute win
I'm all down for Apollo in jail but I:P tho O_O
Keep App free! We've only started bullying her with kill Spells now that her omninegate bodyguards are gone! 😈
As soon as options appear for budget players, you get demands for bans. I won't be surprised when they do get banned since they're accessible. The simplest way to deal with Appolusa is Infinite Impermanence, Forbidden Droplets, and hell, even chalice. You can even use bait the Apolousa, then ghost ogre it
everyone was complaining about apo last format its just konami need to milk it first
I stfg if either of these 2 get banned for snake eye sins
What if every generic boss monster was gone, and you can only use in archetypes. Would Dragoon and Dark Magician become base?
Theh need to if every deck was to stick to its own archetype i think dm would be viable he is literally the only one with his in archetype boss monster
I totally agree, those two monsters are really broken. Also, those two monsters boost going 1st like crazy when going 1st is already super strong. We should get more going 2nd extra deck monsters like knightmares, zeus, ty-phon and s:p.
Fully agree that I:P and Apollo should go. Too broken and way too easy to summon. Hopefully we get into an era where there aren’t too many negates.
We need more appaloosa eak cards, like one for spells, and one for traps. That way there is more variety.
Based.
I'm surprised it took then 7 years to notice this
Apollo and accesscode are absolute aids and have limited what link 4s have been played since their release
Accescode is for going 2nd so it's fine imo
@@_Sasuke_99 It's pretty much an i win button if you summon it. There's plenty of other going 2nd cards that reward link decks and deal with boards like zealantis and firewall dragon which aren't as free advantage. Borrelsword was also pretty aids but it couldn't deal with backrow and needed 3 monsters so it's just completely outclassed
@@beautifulryann Yeah Accesscode should probably be limited to 1 or 2 pops per turn. That seems enough to balance it
@@_Sasuke_99 jea but we had for example guys like the borrela, but with excess in the game its the same issue as appo where u wont play other link 4
Negate summon, use Imperm/Veiler or anything that targets a monster and negates it's effect after Accesscode resolves it's on summon effect to gain ATK? @@beautifulryann
I feel they want to keep IP for a while, espevially to sell SP reprint.
But yea pretty good chance apo will be banned next banlist, as the remaining extra deck holy trinity left (alongside baronne and savage).
I love I:p but we really need this game to be more bosses in archetype
Agreed
I think the problem is that a lot of todays achetype that can easily summon those staple (especially Apollousa) with only 1 card combo consistently. For Example: Snake-Eye, Fiendsmith, Millennium, etc.
Apo was reprinted in rc02 and is destined for one of the next 2 banlists. the same story that happened to Baronne and Savage
Little knight needs a ban
Bruh I’m just about to buy the qcr apo chill!!!!!!
i wouldn't
S:P is way more bannable than I:P
S:P is newer, making it less bannable. It is rare for komoney to ban the new shiny with one printing.
He explains this at 6:35
Applaud 👏🏻 Great video,
& make Traps great again,
replace Handtraps with
Imperm style traps
They should just rework the rules. Game is beyond fixable without it. While i agree that you can ban some cards to make it a bit more playable, I do think a few bans wont achieve anything in the grand scheme of things.
Konamis powercreep has gone to far for a long period of time now and the only way to nullify what theyve done is by changing the rules in which these cards function.
Here is one. Double LPs to limit OTKs
AMEN BROTHA SAY IT AGAIN
in order to fix the changes i think that need to happen
1-make special summon a resource AE make it like a summoning well of six points and you refresh at the end of turn
2-Limit hand trap cards that are splashable
3-Remove all omi type splashable omni negates
4-Make 1 negate for per archtype
These type of changes would do better I think
Nobody really talks about superpoly? Which now more then ever is the most powerful card ever released?
The problems are generic staples yeah. But also decks like Snake Eye which spams enough monsters for an entire torunament room and has unfair mechanics, being AI generated
S:P was designed for I:P. They are from the same universe as Time Thief and Psy-Frame
If apollo and I:P weren't waifus people would want them banned 😂
While I get where people are coming from (Apo is definitely annoying at the start of a format): in truth, Apo is only toxic when you have cards protecting it. I'd rather just ban only IP and be done with it, although banning Apo to promote extra deck diversity is also a fair reason imo.
It is annoying when protected and when accompanied by other disruptions that the player must address.
We need dark barrier statue banned. It’s gotten as bad as floowander with wind statue with chimera abusing it. Even outside of chimera labrynth too. An ftk for non dark decks
The only way of fixing Links now is either a errata or bringing in a mechanic that ruins them.
Well blink out is that card automatically sending them
Snake-Eyes is the real problem here IMO.
Nothing can fix the game, the moment there is a turn 0 they jumped the shark. just sucked it up or move on
Bit of a yugiboomer, but Master Duel's convinced me on links, for sure.
Ip, Sp, Spright Elf, and Underworld Goddess.
Such a perfect package, especially in any deck with some level 2s.
sp too must be banned, all noobs using them thinkin they r good
sp is a healthy and interactive card which helps when going second, you're just pissed because you lost to some bad player it seems
@@ruru0770 For real tho 😂
@@ruru0770 he's pissed cause he's poor
@@TehFabledsound like he is just getting hit by so everytime
I agree that these generic extra deck monsters that are just busted have to go so I would like to see them banned but for some of them I would just want a change of their summoning requirements. I mainly mean card like borrelload savage, just put a rocket monster in his summoning requirements so that only its original deck can use it from now on, instead of banning it forever.
100% agreed boss
I suggest making a legendary cards ,which you can only use one of that category and adding extra monsters to that category, like legend cards in rush duel , so you will avoid banning cards or limitting them and you can resell the legend reprints , konami should start from here
What are you guys talking ?
Baronne and Savage are banned because they are omni-negates and because they negate and destroy.
Apollousa and Masquerena won't be banned.
Stop banning rarity collection singles cry babies! Leaving a bad taste in the mouth of budget players!
Well said 👏
well if they ban those people will never buy those rarity collection sets anymore all cards in there get ban
Budget Baronne in Rarity 1... Banned in next banlist
Budget Apollousa in Rarity 2...
I do agree that if appo and I:P get banned this could help the format a good bit, when you think about how people make boards they always just opt to go for: make one card combos for end board of appo, and other Omni negates then pass with like 2 hand traps left in hand, it’s the same thing every time, I’m pretty sure we all miss when we actually liked to use our in archetype boss monster because it’s actually fun to see what people come up with with strategies like that
Annoying fllodgates or too OP lingering effects like dimentional barrier with the too easily summonable negates as Apollousa : BAN
Generic monsters ruin yugioh. They almost always become meta relevant and expensive then the cards to prevent that card from existing/stopping that cards effect becomes expensive and abused.
Seriously the next time you look at a yugioh deck, are you playing the engine, the archetype or the generic extra deck?
You know how bad apo is vs a card like change of heart…
Maybe we adapt
Board breakers are pretty bad this format. Stop the copium please
@@_Sasuke_99Pachinkomoney really really really wants people to play Yugiboomer breaker Spells.
@@autobotstarscream765 ??? I meant to say that handtraps are better than board breakers. Idk what you're talking about with the boomer board breakers thing
I think both are fine and should stay, I'll die on this hill.
Elaborate
@yacine656 on the other hand I believe S:P is Bannable. It's better than I:P imo.
@@YGOKingPhil It becomes almost entirely defensive without ip.
@@YGOKingPhil S:P on its own is obv better than I:P in a vacuum. If u ban S:P going 2nd loses a good tool while I:P the enabler of cringe will still exist to do BS in the future.
Hot take: Ban Snake-Eyes Flamberge Dragon and I:p. Honestly Losing apo makes nib stronger, and apo still struggles against non-monster distractions. I:p just keeps getting better overtime and it’s time to go.
how is apollousa broken when all you need is an imperm to make her a useless 0 ATK brick you invested FOUR MONSTERS into? its existance makes a TON of rogue decks playable. if you want to make yugioh as repetitive and boring as possible, ban apollousa
Based comment. Scrap Dragons salute you, comrade❤
If we ban both of them what cards can we replace them
We also need to eliminate activated effects during draw and standby phase thats some bs btw
We need more main phase activated removal effects. On summon effects are too toxic.
I mean, those are only toxic when you can summon a monster outside the main phase.
Blackwing best deck🦅
I like links but sadly it's just another extension for power creep.
Konami - sees this video
Oh yeah that makes sense
Also konami
Puts nibiru to 2.
ip and apple also have the same issue as barone and savage where theyre better than 90% of link boss monsters cause why go into an archetypal boss that needs like 5 cards to make when you could just make ip and apple
And appollusa needs to be a hard once per turn
It will kill her
@@ДаниилТолмачёв-ж2ы thats the point
@@ДаниилТолмачёв-ж2ыOnce per chain already gets her killed by Ghost Ogre. 😈
@@autobotstarscream765 i absolutely agree.
Apollusa is only strong because Yugioh is nothing but monster effect spamming. So anything to stop that would be strong.
I:p needs ban and s:p needs an errata
I had the link starter deck before the packs came out. Mixed it with agents angels. Anyway, Masquerana & Apollousa (sp?) is a crazy common combo in something like ABC. But IDK if folks really play that deck anymore.
Also I've just recently started playing SP: Little Knight and I wish I tried her way earlier. Such a useful Link.
Just ban Snake-Ash, Snake-Eye Poplar and Wanted, and limit Snake-Eye Oak...it ends that dumb deck and invalidates this argument
If Apo gets banned then i think Nib schould also go because if Apo is gone nibiru is basically an FTK against what feels like 85% of decks which is even less fun
And here we go with the same song and dance. Then next season these cards will be ruining Yu-Gi-Oh and and and on and on and on. .-. it's stupid Konami actually listens to this community full of tools
I think i:p is the problem.
I:p and Apollo are the problem surely that won’t still make snake-eye tier 0 still.
Yep exactly
100% agree with u along with SP , some ppl inc u say it’s better card going 2nd more than 1st how’s tf is this??
If you take away the synergy with ip, the only thing sp does to the opponent is temporarily banish their monster and itself. I would say that the ability to minimize the damage from cards like evenly is also pretty powerful, but this shines more when you have layered disruptions.
Going second it can force out one disruption on summon and then remove another of the opponent's monster's temporarily.
Well just like borreload and baronne, both IP and Apo are in the rarity collection....so there is a chance
Appo's head is definitely on the chopping block. IP is here to stay though
If I:P and Appollousa looks like Dark Jeroid instead of cute waifus people will stop defending those card.
People want to bully App with kill Spells now that her omninegate bodyguards are gone. 😈
Ban snake eyes cards and floodgates, the real issues with the game
For me I hate S.P. Little Knight and Thunder Dragon Colossus are bigger problems for the game; I deal better with apollousa most of the time.
Yeah just ban appo plus IP because summoning little knight on opps turn and the protection is ridicoulous
App gets checked by imperm.
It's definitely getting banned look at all the reprints . They want buget players able to use before it goes away.
S:P should be banned as well !!!!
I play snake eyes and I totally agree.
Maxx C to 3 TCG!!!
Ey yo i just ordered them from ra02. Let me have some fun with them first
ironically that's how bad Konami is. They want to get a cheap reprint in for cash, then ban the card "now that it's problematic"
Well u can play with em until next banlist like in few months, where there is good chance both will be banned, at very least apo.
@@elsten24It's super scummy :(
Ban Zealantis
I:P just shows how busted Links are. Quick Synchro monsters (like Formula Synchron) aren't that absurd.
Can't compare formula to IP. Formula is an insanely difficult to summon niche synchro, while IP just a generic "contact fusion" monster that summons another one with 2 built-in interruptions
@@yacine656That's why he said it shows how busted links are. The comparison shows how the concept of accessing an extra deck summoning method during the opponent's turn via monste effect is far more balanced when you are required to meet a total level requirement vs just "modern contact fusion."
Well technically it would be comparing and contrasting.
@@yacine656 Formula is just the first one I thought of, Accel Synchron is much more accessible.
@@dudono1744 Also, Hop-Ear Squadron.
@@pi_xi Hop Ear Squadron isn't really the same idea, it's more of a handtrap
Do you see a world where Halq or ruler ever get unbanned?
and honestly, I think both apol and IP banned would be helpful.
For ruler, maybe after at least 2 years. They would probably nerf it in order to make it less generic, maybe by giving it the restrictions that the new chaos ma8n deck monsters have.
Halq.Half.. maybe.
@@chewdoom8415i think in 2 years, Ruler would just have a wider pool of better cards to mill.
I do miss the card though
apo should just be once per turn.
It will kill her
Lmao omg a monster does any effect. Ppl just complain cause they prefer vanilla format
I unironically enjoy summoning Gazelle the king of mythical beasts.
@@TheMegaultrachicken Silver fang just cuz
Free yah boi Chavara (Wish list from a yubel player)
You only need 1 in that deck anyways
I:P isn't the problem, S:P is.
Bann IP and Appolousa would be a step in right direction.
Modern yugioh is just 🗑
I think these cards are fine
Well spoken video yaksine bravo.
Unban Elpy 😤
IP into avramax, too good
Hm ngl never used either of them and haven't played against them in DL either so...
1:45 I:P I reconize but Bow is a new 1 to me
You playing an almost completely different game if you ate playing DL
I have QCR Apo and IP in mail you guys better stfu - the "omni" bad cope already cucked me...
just ban poplar and unban tear, non of these cards where an issue in the best of formats
😂😂😂😂
Funny man make good point! Ban Appo!
Appolousa is for me one of the fair boss card...yes you can main this card in every deck but you still need 4 ressources to make this card...and she have alot of weakness..
Im agree with ip and even sp little knight
Apple did nothing wrong
Its rotten
@@fooltool ur mom is rotten
Facts.
exist
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