I need 2 say this. Ive been watching this channel since day one. But as a black man i never thought i would ever see a story as intriguing or as profound 2 me personally as this. Nobody has put this story out as "raw" as this & i salute u 4 this. Respect 2 "this is monsters" 4 this profound outlook & im 4ever a fan. 💯💯💯🔥
agree! TIM is a remarkable channel...and i like how he expresses emotion from time to time during narration...he shows his frustrations and disgust...same as THE DISTURBING TRUTH CHANNEL AND DREADING-CRIME & PSYCHOLOGY....;
Marvin was amazing. His father dispised Marvin because he saw greatness in Marvin that he'd never amount to, and he hated that because of his own failures and insecurities
Usually the father wants the best for his children and wants them to achieve dreams they never did or at least have them aspire to be great. Sadly, it's not always this way.
@@missvida6251 I, like many, has seen countless Marvin Gaye stories and everyone has said that Marvin Sr was jealous of Marvin Gaye and some say it started from the beginning. Marvin Sr even questioned was Marvin Gaye his. Yes, Marvin Gaye doing drugs didn't help, but Sr despised Marvin Gaye long before that. Marvin Gaye's biggest mistake is moving back in with a father he didn't get along with.
If you research the case his father was photographed after the murder. He has bruises all over his body which proved Marvin attacked him and he was on drugs too.
Common theme in the American legal system. I say "legal" because it's not a justice system. Violent crimes are routinely handed lighter sentences than non-violent or victimless crimes & the wealthy often get NO prison time because they can afford bail & great representation. (Google "Robert H. Richards IV" if you want to vomit). Just like our healthcare, freedom is for sale in this capitalist hellscape. It's on us to organize & demand better.
As a child who was also a subject of fathers irrational but very real hatred, I wish I could hug Marvin and tell him that he was worth it. Worth being alive, worth living, trying, failing. This story breaks my heart.
And what a lovely, huge heart you have! Take care, my friend and please don’t ever let anyone tell you you aren’t enough or good enough etc.., *you matter.* The world could use a whole lot more of you.😊
@@tundrawomansays694 Thank you so much for your beautiful comment. That almost made me cry. Thank you for taking the time to reply with such a caring and loving message. Means the World to me. ❤️
Marvin Gaye was an evil human , he'd get coked up and ask girls to do depraved acts,( imagine the worst things you possibly can ) then when he wasn't high, he would be completely disgusted by them for doing exactly as he asked, he'd do so much cocaine he would have gay sex with celebrities like Marlon Brando His father was religious and knew he had the devil in him No big loss People like to pretend he wasn't human excrement because he was incredibly talented musically, except the drugs were likely a big part of both
It’s not the voyeurism or the orgies that makes Gaye’s legacy an uncomfortable one - we’re not here to kink-shame. It’s the multiple reports of abuse and the implication that he didn’t always fully grasp consent; the idea that he used violence to get his way, and the coercive behaviour he even outlines in his own lyrics. In hit single I Heard It Through The Grapevine, he sings, “I know that a man ain't supposed to cry/ But these tears I can't hold inside/ Losin' you would end my life you see/ Cause you mean that much to me”. Woman of the World half-heartedly celebrates women’s liberation, but slips into the singer lamenting losing “my girl” as a result. It seems the irony was lost on him that women being free from misogyny directly correlated to their desire to be free from him, too.
Finally someone called him out for his shit! In the Black Community, we don't acknowledge this case enough. We just talk about it whenever mentioning Marvin and go about life but Marvin was our brother. An absolute icon who helped put Motown on the map. His father was a huge monster who was jealous of his son's talent. Great job as always, Jiles. You stay giving us fresh content
Maybe they ( the black community)don't know the details, This is the first time I've heard this. I don't understand what did you want the black community to do regarding his story, I'm certain his full story has been told.😮 His father was abusive to him since birth ,so his talent was a small part.
I grew up with a mother that targeted me emotionally, mentally, financially and physically, rather than my siblings. It’s easy to understand when a parent abuses all their kids, but it’s so much harder to understand when they only abuse one. It just doesn’t make sense. This is so sad. RIP Marvin Gaye Jr.
I feel this is quite wrong, to paint Marvin Gay Sr as a monster. I love this channel, has watched every episode since it started. But my man was not a monster. Marvin Gay Jr had PCP and cocaine in his system. Marvin Gay Sr had injuries from being beat by his son (this is why they reduced sentence), meanwhile Marvin Gay Sr had a walnut size tumor in his brain. This is what Sr said after the sentencing while crying: "If I could bring him back, I would. I was afraid of him. I thought I was going to get hurt. I didn't know what was going to happen. I'm really sorry for everything that happened. I loved him. I wish he could step through this door right now. I'm paying the price now." I dont think he meant to kill him, but Marvin Gay Jr was irrational and aggressive and had attacked his father.. and I think he just wanted to make his son scared to stop attacking him
@@nr1NPC Coming from a very similar household I am going to say that it's much more complexed and nuanced, the underbelly of such parents as Marvin Sr. So much more. Their family dynamic began in Marvin Jr's infancy. Generational traumas are labled 'Generational' for a very real reason.
@@nr1NPCSo all the childhood abuse his father put his cbildren and wife through, had no effect on Marvin? All Marvin Snr drinking, barely working or providing for his family had no effect on them? So Marvin Snr, needed to shoot him at point blank range after shooting him through the lung etc??? Too late to be sorry, once your child is dead. Would you have the same pity if it was a 12yr old girl?
@@nr1NPC Maybe Jr was fighting with Sr because Jr was defending himself from him. After so many times of getting abuse, you are bound to fight back, especially if the person starts to threaten your life. So, it’s not your typical everyday abuse. Which it didn’t sound like it was that day. Or maybe Jr at that point had enough of the abuse. You know like how women in domestic violent relationships finally hurt and/or kill their partner after prolong abuse. Like that. Abuse is not how it’s portrayed in the movies. Where the victim NEVER fights back or doesn’t have problems of their own. Sometimes they do fight back, because they had enough and are defending themselves. And sometimes they do have problems, which Jr did. Also, adding that Jr had drugs in his system is victimizing the victim. He is the one who got shot and killed. Who cares if he had drugs in his system. You don’t shoot someone because of that. Call the police if you feel threatened. Though, I really doubt Sr was the one that was feeling threatened. If he was feeling threatened, it was his ego that was threatened. By the way, I never said Sr was a monster. But, he definitely was not innocent. He did a lot of wrong to his son and whole family. You don’t abuse and kill, especially your own child.
I grew up on Motown and had a love for Marvin Gaye's music from the jump. I knew he was killed by his father but I didn't know the story. What a terrible thing, all of it. The abuse, the scars on Marvin's being, the ego and hatred of his father, all of it. Thank you for such a moving and personal story.
Such a sad and moving story I'm glad that it's spoken here on this channel with poise and Grace that should be given to the man who put music out into the world❤❤
Marvin was murdered about a block from where I lived in Los Angeles and I can still remember the horror and heartbreak I felt that day… Marvin’s father killed him because he was insanely jealous of his success. The whole world loved Marvin Gaye. His voice touched your soul. Thank u Monsters for telling “why”.
What a heartbreaking story. Marvin Gaye is one of the greatest singers and songwriters who ever lived. Put on “What’s Going On” or “I Want You,” and if you just sit there and listen, the entire album will just blow you away. Not to mention the tremendous duets he did with Tammi Terrell and Diana Ross. He really is a legend. Thank you for making this video.
That Marvin jr was named after his father, seems to me he was jealous of his son the moment he was born. The father obviously had other issues as well. What a sad story. I hadn't heard the history of this. Thank you for posting and....it's nice to see a face attached to the channel.
I find the practice of naming kids after the parents to be conceited and a little narcissistic, but this father clearly went beyond just plain narcissism where children are seen as extensions of themselves, and became extremely jealous of his own son. He was jealous of his talent and success, smth that Marvin Sr. probably felt entitled to, and murdered his son in a jealous rage. He's like the Evil Queen from Snow White; an irl fairy tale villain.
Marvin Jr had a horrific upbringing. His Father sounds like a Phychopath. Yet, Marvin Jr has undeniable talent. Sadly he was not able to get help for his childhood trauma in time and actually start enjoying his Life and Success. I respect the Love he had for his Mother.
I was born in 1984. I have enjoyed Marvin Gaye throughout my childhood and still do. I never knew of his horrible situation and life he endured. Great narration and story. I learned a bunch.
You give so many important details. I had no idea how Marvin struggled. I love his music, his voice. You handle these stories very professionally and with kindness for victims. Thank you!!!
It’s crazy this man shot his son, I’m named after my dad so it hits different when your dad tries to end the generation ,Sam Cooks story is sad also I think this was my first time seeing your face, Nice to see you man, great voice also.
I remember reading the story about Marvin Gaye about a year ago. It's one of the saddest damned stories I've ever heard. He sure was one talented man, gone far too soon. Thank you for covering this. Stay safe.
Nice to put a face to the voice! ❤ Thankyou for all the great uploads. The hard work you put into every case you cover doesn't go un-noticed. Sending ❤ from Chicago.❤
i don’t think they “blame” him, because it makes sense. there’s a thing called “suicide by cop” where everyone knows if you threaten to shoot at police or run at them, they’ll shoot you first. the cops are the ones who did the killing but the person also intentionally “poked the bear” by pissing off a dangerous person. Marvin was depressed & had failed an attempt a few days before. He had never put his hands on his father until that day & likely knew the reaction that would have. I don’t think it was premeditated, but I do think he didn’t care what happened to him.
@@majik31401 Which makes sense because as abused and neglected kids we believe we *deserved* the maltreatment that was propagated on us by the very people whose primary responsibility was the care and protection of their children. We are *ashamed.* Hell, most of us won’t use the “a” (abuse) or “n” word (neglected) even as adults, even to ourselves for years if at all. Yk, bruises fade. Broken bones mend. Burns scar over. It is the psychological/emotional abuse that leaves the longest demands……
Marvin Gaye was an evil human , he'd get coked up and ask girls to do depraved acts,( imagine the worst things you possibly can ) then when he wasn't high, he would be completely disgusted by them for doing exactly as he asked, he'd do so much cocaine he would have gay sex with celebrities like Marlon Brando His father was religious and knew he had the devil in him No big loss People like to pretend he wasn't human excrement because he was incredibly talented musically, except the drugs were likely a big part of both
When you look at most artists today, even actors, there was a level of abuse in their childhood. Now whether the abuse came from their households or Hollywood, is the question.
This story always turns my stomach a stpry of a cruel insecure selfish man who lashed out at everyone close to him to make himself feel tall and important until one day he went out of his way and killed someone. And not just anyone but his own son and namesake whom he tormented nearly all his life. Marvin Gay Sr. Was a pathetic man but his story always rubbed me a type of way because i always wondered what would make a person so cruel
@@goaliesmom Feeling a type of way means that hearing this story invokes a bit of emotion in me when I hear a story like this it gets me angry and a little upset asking the question of how anyone could ever do something like that to their own flesh and blood? And if there is any true fairness in this world when people like that who destroy and torment other people get to live freely.
I was born in Detroit and grew up in the 60's. The Motown Sound was HUGE and I remember Marvin Gaye was a favorite of mine. I also remember being completely shocked and mystified at the tragic events of his death at the hands of his own father. I never did know the whole story other than what was in the news at the time. I was today years old when I learned the whole story. Thank you Jiles.
bullets and cop cars on gratiot tonight. not alarming, but comforting. motown is barely left. except for the museum. marvin gaye is revered here. as i type, another car sped down gratiot. dont think we exist only in stories.
Marvin had such a profoundly traumatic childhood... breaks my heart to hear this story. Spent his whole like looking for love, smh. Thid was a great introspection of a musical icon. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for your insightful and moving episode about Marvin Gaye. I was living in L.A. when he was murdered by his father and I will never forget it. I remember a local DJ saying to drive around with your lights on in tribute to Marvin, which I did. Marvin Gaye endured such horrific treatment by his father, yet he was able to share his talents with the world which will live on forever.
The relationship between Marvin Jr and his mother was so touching. Even when Jr was struggling himself, he kept his promise to his mother that he would take care of her. I just wish Alberta had divorced her husband sooner, so then she and her son could have lived together in peace away from the monster.
I wish she would have left him too. He wasn't even bringing money into the home, so why was he even there? Just to terrorize everyone in the house? What a bum he was 🤦🏾♀️
So you have compassion for Jr, but not for Sr. I wonder what Sr’s home life was like as a child. People love Jr because he was a star. I’m obviously not condoning his horrific abuse and the murder, but to think that Sr wasn’t irreparably messed up by his upbringing is naive at best.
@@tonywolfe9513Okay so how far back do you propose we go?? Bc whoever abused Sr was probably abused too, and so forth and so on. Soooo, since this is about what we factually know, let's just keep it there. If you wanna unpack yrs of black childhood trauma spilling over, I'm def here for it, but in context lol.
Can't finish watching without giving praise to the fresh intro. Another great move by our man Jiles. Thanks for all the consistent research, editoring and presentation. ❤ Respect from Melbourne Australia🙏🌏💙
Great to put a face to your soothing voice, your content is underrated by the TH-cam algorithms - you really deserve a millions subs, with the consistent amount of research and quality content you put in to each video!
I am SO happy you have included him in your monsters list. I learned pretty early on why I connected with Marvin before i could even speak. That abuse is just so clear to those of us who experienced it. Thank goodness for Marvin Jr. He helped save my life.
Well done, as always. I remember this being all over the news despite only being about 8 years old at the time. Shortly after, Diana Ross released a song called Missing You. In September 2021, I lost my wife to metastatic breast cancer and found myself obsessively listening to that song. Before Pam died, I literally had no idea that the song Missing You was written by Lionel Richie, or that the events of this video inspired it. Excellent work as usual!
@@Tsumami__ I just looked up the word and almost throw up at the meaning/Marvin Gaye was that. I've heard it before...quite sickening that we have people like that in this world...smh
This case has made me almost break down crying at several moments. I am a die hard fan of Marvin Gaye's music and knowing the way he died and what he had to endure during his whole life at the hands of the monster of a father he had, just tears me apart. He got only 6 years of suspended sentence after killing his son, who he tortured throughout his whole life and actively made sure he was dead, not only was it the fatal shot to his chest but he had to make sure he was completely anahilated. He is sorry? Sorry he got caught and his brothers saying it was an act of suicide? This man was so distraught and broken from years of abuse that I'm surprised he made it that far without attempting more than once, to end his own life. He did not deserve such an end...rip Marvin. Thank you so much for this post, as always, top notch content, hard to find on TH-cam these days🎉
Thank you for telling the story of Marvin. What a terrible life of pain. Had he been able to walk away from the family he may still be alive but his love for his mother wouldn’t allow him to be away. My heart aches for him ❤
Thank you for creating this in-depth story. I found the part that his siblings, even after witnessing Marvin’s abuse by his father, believing his death to be a sort of suicide to be almost more tragic than his death. RIP Marvin Gaye ❤
Your presentation, your research, and your scripting. is so far above other content creators on youtube. Absolutely fantastic presentations. Long may they continue. Brilliant stuff!!!!
I didn’t know his past either, I remember Kurt Loder on MTV, with breaking news that he had been shot, then, hearing he was shot by his father, I was crushed as my very young ears heard this, his father was no father, he was just a donor that created him.😢😡…✌🏻💕
Rest in peace to a legend. I grew up with this man’s music as the back drop to my childhood in the late 80’s and 90’s! Thank you for covering this tragedy!
Thank you for your thoughtful coverage of this. As someone who grew up in a cult, it means a lot to me that you have the courage to voice these things publicly. I'm sure you have touched many that you will never know about. So thank you! I've always loved Marvin Gaye's music, but now I feel affection for him personally!
Nice to "see" you finally! You actually look like I pictured you! This is such a tragic story!..😢 Marvin was such an amazing talent! My ex did coke and always peeked out the window blinds, super paranoid. He would take a flashlight and turn it on and off constantly, thinking people were outside...
I always wanted to know more about this story even though I was just a kid when he died. People were so sad but there was never an explanation as to what happened to his father. I could never figure this out. Some people had opinions that the father was trying to defend himself from Marvin. I couldn’t believe them and I didn’t. His story was so heartbreaking Thank you so much for covering. ❤
What's Going On is a bittersweet, human album which observes pain and societal ills while expressing tenderness and sensitivity. On your channel we see a lot of people who take their childhood pain and trauma and respond with acts of violence toward others. Knowing all this helps me understand Marvin a little better, props to him for taking his pain and making beautiful art with it from a perspective most people are fortunate enough they will never have.
Poor Marvin Jr, I never knew what happened to him. My mom always said when I was young that it was a tragedy, and she grew up during Reagan era so I kind of assumed he had gotten sick....we loved his music....thank you for covering this legend singer, homophobia is always horrible I cant imagine dealing with family abuse and racism on top of that
I just assumed he was sick as well. I called my Mom immediately after watching this. Marvin Jr. story is literally heartbreaking. I pray he's finally at peace.
It’s sad how if you’re around a bad influence long enough, sooner or later you’ll morph into that influence. I was in a similar situation as Marvin as a kid but luckily I was blessed that my mother separated from my father and I stayed with her. RIP Marvin Jr.
Very well researched and narrated, what a shame that this wonderful singer and songwriter had an awful childhood at the hands of his own father and then to die by the same hand. Thanks for this great account, I only knew that Marvin's father had killed him, the rest is so upsetting and what a heart-breaking tale. RIP Marvin, you left us with some fabulous sounds.
OMG!! I CAN PUT A FACE TO YOUR VOICE!!! CALL ME WEIRD I FALL ASLEEP TO YOUR VOICE. Your voice combined with the way you speak is one of the best I've heard in my life
I went to grade school with a beautiful, very meek and nervous girl. She was Pentecostal and now I understand her all these years later. I hope she is well.
This is not Pentecostalism, Pentecostals celebrate Christmas and Easter and go to church on Sundays. I think they ( the Gaye’s) may have been seven day adventists or some other sect. 🤔
@@yinx02 I don’t know about that. I knew a guy in high school who tried to get me to join his Pentecostal group. He didn’t do holidays. Milton was a black guy but recruited white girls, and actually did get a few of them to wear long dresses, refuse to cut their hair, and follow him around. He was a nice guy, wore a suit to school, but his rules were not for me so I didn’t become one of ‘Milton’s girls”. I’ve never been prone to joining religions anyway.
@@yinx02 Seventh-day Adventist celebrate Christmas and Easter as well. They don't believe in speaking in tongues or that the holy spirit makes them god.
Just wanna say, I love your channel and your content. You’re one of the few True Crime channels that manages to keep consistent, fresh content. Keep it up!
@@apaaaa recommend 'disturban' if you want pure evil, he also does horror history, I did my thesis on serial killers and he still makes me gag sometimes crazy crazy stuff
@@M0oranshi I used to enjoy disturban but I just can't take his voice anymore. If you like JCS style channels, I'd recommend Red Tree Crime and their 2nd channel Red Tree Stories. Very well executed and is one of my favorite channels now. Also Damon Verial has amazing breakdown skills for interrogations as well as never seen before on TH-cam interrogations.
Absolutely heartbreaking when I hear the stories of others that were victims of abuse by a parent. It’s a very traumatic abuse because as a child, you are so confused why your parent is hurting you. Your parents are supposed to be the person/people you can always count on for support and love.
It becomes even more confusing as an adult I think. Especially when you have kids, and wouldn’t ever treat your kids like you were, because now you start to really see how wrong it was.
Marvin is one of the most influential singers ever. Especially for the 60's-70's for the the war, the police brutality and the violence among each other😢😢😢😢
Thank you for covering this. This kind of monster is far more common than what we usually see in the headlines. However, they're often overlooked and permitted to continue their behavior, leading to irreparable damage society suffers as whole through the damage it has on the individuals who endure the abuse and the cycle of violence it often perpetuates. We need to do far more to intervene and educate people. It IS our business when we see it happen amd it DOES need to be stopped, as well the victims treated for the effects and assisted to escape.
This is so sad for Marvin. An abusive Narcissist for a father & a submissive woman who allowed this bad behavior. She should have already known what a horrible man Marvin Sr was when she chose to give up her own son for him. The both of them were awful parents.
You got that right Sir. Thank you for talking about this tragedy. Now I have a better understanding. I was 8 years old going when this went down. I remember my Mom crying. Have a great and blessed day. ❤😊
Can you imagine how beautiful things would have been if he had, had two parents that had loved and supported him. I grew up with his music. I knew every word to every song. I'm kind of glad I didn't know the anguish behind the man. It would have made me sad to hear his music, knowing how horrible the child inside still hurt. I never heard the entire story all these years. Thank you for this. God rest that child inside the man who gave us so much and suffered throughout his life.
My first kiss was during "Sexual Healing" at my friends prom after-party. 😢 Really blows that so many people, so talented died so young. I will always have a massive hole in my heart for Marvin Gaye and Elliot Smith, in particular.
Lol what year was it pimp? I can actually remember the 1st time a chick let me grab her booty from slow dancing to a song but I cannot remember my 1st kiss.
I'm already crying it makes me so sick and sad how Marvin was treated....and then what happens later in his life it's so sad...he sang about love...and had such a hard time with it...I can't imagine treating my daughter like that...I hope he is resting well I have always loved Marvin so much learning more about him and his life is absolutely needed thank you so much for this absolutely amazing video ❤❤❤
Thanks for doing this case. It was great to see your face this time around! It’s also great that you put the help lines at the end. Thanks for being one of the top true crime channels!!
I do remember, when hearing news of his passing, we all thought it was an April fools joke. At least I was hoping it was...I adored him (still do). Thank you for telling his story.
Kudos to you for cutting through the bs, reading between the lines, and relaying the events as accurately and devoid of bias as possible. That is, I have to think, a big part of the success of this channel.
I've loved Marvin Gaye since I was a kid listening to Motown on the radio in the 70s. His voice was smooth as silk & he seemed like a gentle soul. I was broken hearted when I heard he was killed 😢😭 Rest in peace sweet man 🌠
I like the addition of adding yourself to the video & hope you'll continue to do this in your future vids. This is such a tragic case. Sr was hardly punished & then tried to benefit from his heinous actions.
I know, right?😇, I’ve only seen him once, and that was whilst watching on my phone, watching on my TV, Up Pops Jiles, which I love seeing his face, he totally matches his voice.👍🏻, puts a face to his rightly timed comments that he makes during uploads✌🏻💕
Definitely not the first time he's shown his face but yes I agree I like the mixture of showing the narrator speaking and pictures or video related to the story!
MG was a Genius, and my heart is broken that his Dad felt like he had no other choice but to take this gift from God away from us! R.I.Power Marvin, you will always live in us! Love you!!!!
💜💜💜💜💜 So glad you did this episode!! I grew up listening to Motown because of my Momma. This is just so tragic because even after the way his father treated him growing up , Marvin still took care of him with his success. My heart went out to his poor mama.
I was 12 when Marvin Gaye was killed and I remember my parents being horrified and sad, but this is way more info than I ever knew ALSOOOOO I love seeing your face! Voice only videos feel less personal me, like a regular documentary. Nothing wrong with documentaries, but (speaking just for myself) I'm on TH-cam to see real people telling real stories, and seeing your face helps me connect with the voice and the story better
What a sad story. Loss of a wonderful singer and lost soul. His father was no Godly man . He was a NARCISSIST. So sad racism still even existed makes me sick he couldn't even go to the movies with his friends. Thank you Jiles for sharing this story. You should really show that handsome face more often .
This is the best TH-cam video covering Marvin Gaye's death that I've ever seen. You actually included in all the backstory and truth and didn't ride off his dad's bullshit claims that he was his son's victim.
@@-Datura- your problem is? Have to use sentences for people to understand your point…… 😑 he covers cases of all races. So do tell why your so bothered by my comment? Monsters come in all races, all sizes, all shapes….
“This is monsters” I love this channel! I got so excited with I saw Marvin Gaye! No one has done this coverage like this!! Great job! 🙌🏽♥️ End conclusion: Really sad story. His father was sick. And mom helpless. Get your kid out of there if you know he’s not loved or in danger. Ugh! Marvin was the victim of a demonic man.
I love when I get the notification that Monsters dropped a new video!! Thanks for all your handwork!! Great presentation and delivery!! You are appreciated ❤️ 🔥 ❤️🔥
It’s very difficult for me to watch stories when the other parent or responsible adult does not protect their child from the abuser. I feel strongly that that person is accountable as well. I do speak from a level of experience as I was in a similar situation many decades ago and I made a very different decision to immediately get my child to safety. I understand the challenges especially of women in the past not having the same opportunities of supporting children without a partner however this is never acceptable to me to tolerate the abuse of vulnerable children. Only my position for what’s it’s worth. ❤️
@@dietdrpepper15 Yes! I always want to learn why people behave destructively and I feel that helps us teach and model healthy choices to prevent some of this happening again. And to spread the word on all the resources available. ❤️
Jiles, I’m so very happy that your channel keeps exploding! I’ve been a huge fan of yours for a couple of years. I want to say you showed your face one other time before this episode, I hope you keep working it in. Also, I can’t tell you HOW excited I was to see that YOU were covering Marvin’s story this morning. I was an 80s kid who adored 60s music. I’ve only seen news articles an VH1 blurbs about this tragedy, and they all pretty much said the same thing: that “the monster” (I refuse to say his name) killed Marvin because of Jr’s addictions and being broke. I knew there had to be more to it than that, and you delivered. It takes the heartbreaking murder to new tragedies to know how much Marvin suffered at the murderer’s hands all his life. Thanks again, cheers!💜💛💚
I need 2 say this. Ive been watching this channel since day one. But as a black man i never thought i would ever see a story as intriguing or as profound 2 me personally as this. Nobody has put this story out as "raw" as this & i salute u 4 this. Respect 2 "this is monsters" 4 this profound outlook & im 4ever a fan. 💯💯💯🔥
Agreed❤
agree! TIM is a remarkable channel...and i like how he expresses emotion from time to time during narration...he shows his frustrations and disgust...same as THE DISTURBING TRUTH CHANNEL AND DREADING-CRIME & PSYCHOLOGY....;
@@Cynthiabecker24 agreed!!!!
I second that emotion.
I agree
Marvin was amazing. His father dispised Marvin because he saw greatness in Marvin that he'd never amount to, and he hated that because of his own failures and insecurities
Usually the father wants the best for his children and wants them to achieve dreams they never did or at least have them aspire to be great. Sadly, it's not always this way.
No. His father despised him because Marvin jr would get high and abusive and his father wasn't buying that
@@missvida6251 I, like many, has seen countless Marvin Gaye stories and everyone has said that Marvin Sr was jealous of Marvin Gaye and some say it started from the beginning. Marvin Sr even questioned was Marvin Gaye his. Yes, Marvin Gaye doing drugs didn't help, but Sr despised Marvin Gaye long before that. Marvin Gaye's biggest mistake is moving back in with a father he didn't get along with.
@@missvida6251 hmmm I wonder why he started taking drugs and being abusive. I hate people like you. Burn in hell with Marvin gaye sr.
@@missvida6251 it can be both. Let’s not act like Marvin Sr. Didn’t have issues.
"Let's just say I didn't dislike him." That's one of the most cold-blooded things I've ever heard someone say.
A six year suspended sentence for murdering your own son??? That is just unbelievable. Sickening...
The colour of justice.Same applies to Sam Cooke's murder.
If you research the case his father was photographed after the murder. He has bruises all over his body which proved Marvin attacked him and he was on drugs too.
And had the nerve to show up at the funeral
@@dp7047 who? Marvin's father didn't go to the funeral.
Common theme in the American legal system. I say "legal" because it's not a justice system. Violent crimes are routinely handed lighter sentences than non-violent or victimless crimes & the wealthy often get NO prison time because they can afford bail & great representation. (Google "Robert H. Richards IV" if you want to vomit). Just like our healthcare, freedom is for sale in this capitalist hellscape. It's on us to organize & demand better.
As a child who was also a subject of fathers irrational but very real hatred, I wish I could hug Marvin and tell him that he was worth it. Worth being alive, worth living, trying, failing. This story breaks my heart.
Same my friend. We’re still here. We did well. Sorry about your father. Hugs.
And what a lovely, huge heart you have! Take care, my friend and please don’t ever let anyone tell you you aren’t enough or good enough etc.., *you matter.* The world could use a whole lot more of you.😊
@@tundrawomansays694 Thank you so much for your beautiful comment. That almost made me cry. Thank you for taking the time to reply with such a caring and loving message. Means the World to me. ❤️
Marvin Gaye was an evil human , he'd get coked up and ask girls to do depraved acts,( imagine the worst things you possibly can ) then when he wasn't high, he would be completely disgusted by them for doing exactly as he asked, he'd do so much cocaine he would have gay sex with celebrities like Marlon Brando
His father was religious and knew he had the devil in him
No big loss
People like to pretend he wasn't human excrement because he was incredibly talented musically, except the drugs were likely a big part of both
It’s not the voyeurism or the orgies that makes Gaye’s legacy an uncomfortable one - we’re not here to kink-shame. It’s the multiple reports of abuse and the implication that he didn’t always fully grasp consent; the idea that he used violence to get his way, and the coercive behaviour he even outlines in his own lyrics. In hit single I Heard It Through The Grapevine, he sings, “I know that a man ain't supposed to cry/ But these tears I can't hold inside/ Losin' you would end my life you see/ Cause you mean that much to me”. Woman of the World half-heartedly celebrates women’s liberation, but slips into the singer lamenting losing “my girl” as a result. It seems the irony was lost on him that women being free from misogyny directly correlated to their desire to be free from him, too.
Finally someone called him out for his shit!
In the Black Community, we don't acknowledge this case enough. We just talk about it whenever mentioning Marvin and go about life but Marvin was our brother.
An absolute icon who helped put Motown on the map. His father was a huge monster who was jealous of his son's talent.
Great job as always, Jiles. You stay giving us fresh content
I didn't realize how much the piece of shit he really was
They like to leave out certain details.
Maybe they ( the black community)don't know the details, This is the first time I've heard this. I don't understand what did you want the black community to do regarding his story, I'm certain his full story has been told.😮 His father was abusive to him since birth ,so his talent was a small part.
That’s not true. I’ve seen other AA creators call out the abusive behavior MG Sr. So don’t put us all in one category.
@@takeliawillams7996 Baby if it don't apply let it fly
Did i say all of the black community?
No
I grew up with a mother that targeted me emotionally, mentally, financially and physically, rather than my siblings. It’s easy to understand when a parent abuses all their kids, but it’s so much harder to understand when they only abuse one. It just doesn’t make sense.
This is so sad. RIP Marvin Gaye Jr.
I feel this is quite wrong, to paint Marvin Gay Sr as a monster. I love this channel, has watched every episode since it started.
But my man was not a monster. Marvin Gay Jr had PCP and cocaine in his system. Marvin Gay Sr had injuries from being beat by his son (this is why they reduced sentence), meanwhile Marvin Gay Sr had a walnut size tumor in his brain.
This is what Sr said after the sentencing while crying:
"If I could bring him back, I would. I was afraid of him. I thought I was going to get hurt. I didn't know what was going to happen. I'm really sorry for everything that happened. I loved him. I wish he could step through this door right now. I'm paying the price now."
I dont think he meant to kill him, but Marvin Gay Jr was irrational and aggressive and had attacked his father.. and I think he just wanted to make his son scared to stop attacking him
@@nr1NPC Coming from a very similar household I am going to say that it's much more complexed and nuanced, the underbelly of such parents as Marvin Sr. So much more. Their family dynamic began in Marvin Jr's infancy. Generational traumas are labled 'Generational' for a very real reason.
@@nr1NPCSo all the childhood abuse his father put his cbildren and wife through, had no effect on Marvin? All Marvin Snr drinking, barely working or providing for his family had no effect on them? So Marvin Snr, needed to shoot him at point blank range after shooting him through the lung etc???
Too late to be sorry, once your child is dead. Would you have the same pity if it was a 12yr old girl?
@@nr1NPC his father was an abusive monster. And he purposely murdered his own son.
@@nr1NPC Maybe Jr was fighting with Sr because Jr was defending himself from him. After so many times of getting abuse, you are bound to fight back, especially if the person starts to threaten your life. So, it’s not your typical everyday abuse. Which it didn’t sound like it was that day. Or maybe Jr at that point had enough of the abuse. You know like how women in domestic violent relationships finally hurt and/or kill their partner after prolong abuse. Like that.
Abuse is not how it’s portrayed in the movies. Where the victim NEVER fights back or doesn’t have problems of their own. Sometimes they do fight back, because they had enough and are defending themselves. And sometimes they do have problems, which Jr did.
Also, adding that Jr had drugs in his system is victimizing the victim. He is the one who got shot and killed. Who cares if he had drugs in his system. You don’t shoot someone because of that. Call the police if you feel threatened. Though, I really doubt Sr was the one that was feeling threatened. If he was feeling threatened, it was his ego that was threatened.
By the way, I never said Sr was a monster. But, he definitely was not innocent. He did a lot of wrong to his son and whole family. You don’t abuse and kill, especially your own child.
I grew up on Motown and had a love for Marvin Gaye's music from the jump. I knew he was killed by his father but I didn't know the story. What a terrible thing, all of it. The abuse, the scars on Marvin's being, the ego and hatred of his father, all of it. Thank you for such a moving and personal story.
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Such a sad and moving story I'm glad that it's spoken here on this channel with poise and Grace that should be given to the man who put music out into the world❤❤
The joke at the start was disrespectful. "No amount of sexual healing would bring him back". Cliched, trite, unfunny and dumb.
@@cainmathewson1857 Gaye. His birth name was Gay. He changed it on the albums to "Marvin Gaye".
@@cainmathewson1857Gaye. It was Gay but he added the e, for reasons explained in the video. We know him as Marvin Gaye.
Marvin was murdered about a block from where I lived in Los Angeles and I can still remember the horror and heartbreak I felt that day… Marvin’s father killed him because he was insanely jealous of his success. The whole world loved Marvin Gaye. His voice touched your soul. Thank u Monsters for telling “why”.
What a heartbreaking story. Marvin Gaye is one of the greatest singers and songwriters who ever lived. Put on “What’s Going On” or “I Want You,” and if you just sit there and listen, the entire album will just blow you away. Not to mention the tremendous duets he did with Tammi Terrell and Diana Ross. He really is a legend. Thank you for making this video.
That Marvin jr was named after his father, seems to me he was jealous of his son the moment he was born. The father obviously had other issues as well. What a sad story. I hadn't heard the history of this. Thank you for posting and....it's nice to see a face attached to the channel.
He showed his face before. The episode where he interviewed a parent.
I find the practice of naming kids after the parents to be conceited and a little narcissistic, but this father clearly went beyond just plain narcissism where children are seen as extensions of themselves, and became extremely jealous of his own son. He was jealous of his talent and success, smth that Marvin Sr. probably felt entitled to, and murdered his son in a jealous rage. He's like the Evil Queen from Snow White; an irl fairy tale villain.
@@hekstoo5988 Guess I didn't see that episode. But I did like seeing his face, whether it was or was not shown before.
Marvin Jr had a horrific upbringing. His Father sounds like a Phychopath. Yet, Marvin Jr has undeniable talent. Sadly he was not able to get help for his childhood trauma in time and actually start enjoying his Life and Success. I respect the Love he had for his Mother.
Exactly.
I 👍 agree as well
You literally just wrote down what this video just told us
@@nnkhfa So, what's your point?
His father sound like a what, pudding?
I remember this happening when i was a kid and not understanding why a father would shoot his son. Thank you for telling the story, sad as it is.
Same here, I was old enough to understand that it was horrible but not old enough to understand how truly tragic his life was.
Damn thanks for spoiling it
I was born in 1984. I have enjoyed Marvin Gaye throughout my childhood and still do. I never knew of his horrible situation and life he endured. Great narration and story. I learned a bunch.
You give so many important details. I had no idea how Marvin struggled. I love his music, his voice. You handle these stories very professionally and with kindness for victims. Thank you!!!
Even though Marvin Gaye struggled he was kind and awesome 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😘❤️🖤💚
It’s crazy this man shot his son, I’m named after my dad so it hits different when your dad tries to end the generation ,Sam Cooks story is sad also
I think this was my first time seeing your face, Nice to see you man, great voice also.
I remember reading the story about Marvin Gaye about a year ago. It's one of the saddest damned stories I've ever heard. He sure was one talented man, gone far too soon. Thank you for covering this. Stay safe.
Nice to put a face to the voice! ❤ Thankyou for all the great uploads. The hard work you put into every case you cover doesn't go un-noticed. Sending ❤ from Chicago.❤
He's shown his face before tho? Ppl from Chicago are truly different I swear.
Thought the same, was so surprised to finally see the by far best voice of all true crime commentators ....
@kamel reiter When did you see Jim can't swim's face? I love monsters and JCS, but JCS is far superior imo.
What’s with the prison garb though?
@@upsidedownopinion1440 How so? 🤔 and why does it matter where I'm from? I left a comment for the channel owner, not you...... 🤷♀️
It is so sad that Marvin’s siblings were so manipulated and brainwashed that they blamed him for his father killing him😢
i don’t think they “blame” him, because it makes sense. there’s a thing called “suicide by cop” where everyone knows if you threaten to shoot at police or run at them, they’ll shoot you first. the cops are the ones who did the killing but the person also intentionally “poked the bear” by pissing off a dangerous person.
Marvin was depressed & had failed an attempt a few days before. He had never put his hands on his father until that day & likely knew the reaction that would have. I don’t think it was premeditated, but I do think he didn’t care what happened to him.
You was there?…
@@JohnAnderson-do6vb me? i’m just going based on what was said in the video
They don't like their father he was a cross dressing maniac
It’s a fact Marvin was suicidal in his last days 💯His father was a piece of shit but Marvin orchestrated the whole hit
This is a LEGENDARY EPISODE….I know the numbers are going to go way up!❤️
Thanks so much!
I loved Marvin's voice. I had no idea he had been so abused.
MOST OF THESE ALLEGATIONS CAME OUT LAST FEW YEARS OF MARVIN GAYES LIFE
@@majik31401 Which makes sense because as abused and neglected kids we believe we *deserved* the maltreatment that was propagated on us by the very people whose primary responsibility was the care and protection of their children. We are *ashamed.* Hell, most of us won’t use the “a” (abuse) or “n” word (neglected) even as adults, even to ourselves for years if at all. Yk, bruises fade. Broken bones mend. Burns scar over. It is the psychological/emotional abuse that leaves the longest demands……
Marvin Gaye was an evil human , he'd get coked up and ask girls to do depraved acts,( imagine the worst things you possibly can ) then when he wasn't high, he would be completely disgusted by them for doing exactly as he asked, he'd do so much cocaine he would have gay sex with celebrities like Marlon Brando
His father was religious and knew he had the devil in him
No big loss
People like to pretend he wasn't human excrement because he was incredibly talented musically, except the drugs were likely a big part of both
When you look at most artists today, even actors, there was a level of abuse in their childhood. Now whether the abuse came from their households or Hollywood, is the question.
This story always turns my stomach a stpry of a cruel insecure selfish man who lashed out at everyone close to him to make himself feel tall and important until one day he went out of his way and killed someone. And not just anyone but his own son and namesake whom he tormented nearly all his life. Marvin Gay Sr. Was a pathetic man but his story always rubbed me a type of way because i always wondered what would make a person so cruel
What the heck does "a type of way" mean? It makes zero sense.
@@goaliesmom Feeling a type of way means that hearing this story invokes a bit of emotion in me when I hear a story like this it gets me angry and a little upset asking the question of how anyone could ever do something like that to their own flesh and blood? And if there is any true fairness in this world when people like that who destroy and torment other people get to live freely.
I was born in Detroit and grew up in the 60's. The Motown Sound was HUGE and I remember Marvin Gaye was a favorite of mine.
I also remember being completely shocked and mystified at the tragic events of his death at the hands of his own father. I never did know the whole story other than what was in the news at the time. I was today years old when I learned the whole story. Thank you Jiles.
bullets and cop cars on gratiot tonight. not alarming, but comforting. motown is barely left. except for the museum. marvin gaye is revered here. as i type, another car sped down gratiot. dont think we exist only in stories.
I got a chance to see tha house where it all happened when I used to live in tha vicinity of that West Adams district of Los Angeles.
Marvin had such a profoundly traumatic childhood... breaks my heart to hear this story. Spent his whole like looking for love, smh. Thid was a great introspection of a musical icon. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for your insightful and moving episode about Marvin Gaye. I was living in L.A. when he was murdered by his father and I will never forget it. I remember a local DJ saying to drive around with your lights on in tribute to Marvin, which I did. Marvin Gaye endured such horrific treatment by his father, yet he was able to share his talents with the world which will live on forever.
The relationship between Marvin Jr and his mother was so touching. Even when Jr was struggling himself, he kept his promise to his mother that he would take care of her. I just wish Alberta had divorced her husband sooner, so then she and her son could have lived together in peace away from the monster.
You are part of the reason why the divorce rate in America is damn near 80%.
EXACTLY!!!!! See you in the Resurrection, Marvin.❤
I wish she would have left him too. He wasn't even bringing money into the home, so why was he even there? Just to terrorize everyone in the house? What a bum he was 🤦🏾♀️
So you have compassion for Jr, but not for Sr. I wonder what Sr’s home life was like as a child. People love Jr because he was a star. I’m obviously not condoning his horrific abuse and the murder, but to think that Sr wasn’t irreparably messed up by his upbringing is naive at best.
@@tonywolfe9513Okay so how far back do you propose we go?? Bc whoever abused Sr was probably abused too, and so forth and so on. Soooo, since this is about what we factually know, let's just keep it there.
If you wanna unpack yrs of black childhood trauma spilling over, I'm def here for it, but in context lol.
Can't finish watching without giving praise to the fresh intro. Another great move by our man Jiles. Thanks for all the consistent research, editoring and presentation. ❤ Respect from Melbourne Australia🙏🌏💙
Im going to one up you and give him my respect from NSW
G'day fellow Melournian ❤
@@danniitheaussie yay I needed a lil more support. 💙
Hey there, I'm at the end of the great ocean road in Warrnambool it's nearly baby whale season! so I'll see you metro people soon :)
Loving it from Melbourne too
Great to put a face to your soothing voice, your content is underrated by the TH-cam algorithms - you really deserve a millions subs, with the consistent amount of research and quality content you put in to each video!
I am SO happy you have included him in your monsters list. I learned pretty early on why I connected with Marvin before i could even speak. That abuse is just so clear to those of us who experienced it. Thank goodness for Marvin Jr. He helped save my life.
Well done, as always. I remember this being all over the news despite only being about 8 years old at the time. Shortly after, Diana Ross released a song called Missing You. In September 2021, I lost my wife to metastatic breast cancer and found myself obsessively listening to that song. Before Pam died, I literally had no idea that the song Missing You was written by Lionel Richie, or that the events of this video inspired it. Excellent work as usual!
Thank you for covering this case ❤ such a loss 😢 RIP Marvin ❤
Also, it’s nice to see your face 😊
I remember this. So so tragic. I still adore Marvin Gaye
His music or him? Because the guy was still an ephebophile even though he put out good music.
@@Tsumami__ Why do you have to be negative and stay stupid shit?
@@Tsumami__ I just looked up the word and almost throw up at the meaning/Marvin Gaye was that. I've heard it before...quite sickening that we have people like that in this world...smh
@@Tsumami__ the music. Never met him.
This case has made me almost break down crying at several moments. I am a die hard fan of Marvin Gaye's music and knowing the way he died and what he had to endure during his whole life at the hands of the monster of a father he had, just tears me apart. He got only 6 years of suspended sentence after killing his son, who he tortured throughout his whole life and actively made sure he was dead, not only was it the fatal shot to his chest but he had to make sure he was completely anahilated. He is sorry? Sorry he got caught and his brothers saying it was an act of suicide? This man was so distraught and broken from years of abuse that I'm surprised he made it that far without attempting more than once, to end his own life. He did not deserve such an end...rip Marvin. Thank you so much for this post, as always, top notch content, hard to find on TH-cam these days🎉
So do I and I got his music
Thank you for telling the story of Marvin. What a terrible life of pain. Had he been able to walk away from the family he may still be alive but his love for his mother wouldn’t allow him to be away. My heart aches for him ❤
Thank you for creating this in-depth story. I found the part that his siblings, even after witnessing Marvin’s abuse by his father, believing his death to be a sort of suicide to be almost more tragic than his death. RIP Marvin Gaye ❤
Your presentation, your research, and your scripting. is so far above other content creators on youtube. Absolutely fantastic presentations. Long may they continue. Brilliant stuff!!!!
Thank you for covering this.
I never realized his full history.
Kinda left me speechless 😟
TIM has done the horrible demise of Marvin complete justice.❤
I didn’t know his past either, I remember Kurt Loder on MTV, with breaking news that he had been shot, then, hearing he was shot by his father, I was crushed as my very young ears heard this, his father was no father, he was just a donor that created him.😢😡…✌🏻💕
Rest in peace to a legend. I grew up with this man’s music as the back drop to my childhood in the late 80’s and 90’s! Thank you for covering this tragedy!
Thank you for giving dignity to those that have passed on by telling their stories truthfully a remarkable quality you have.
Thank you for your thoughtful coverage of this. As someone who grew up in a cult, it means a lot to me that you have the courage to voice these things publicly. I'm sure you have touched many that you will never know about. So thank you!
I've always loved Marvin Gaye's music, but now I feel affection for him personally!
It's so nice to put a face to the voice. Love your channel.
Nice to "see" you finally! You actually look like I pictured you! This is such a tragic story!..😢 Marvin was such an amazing talent! My ex did coke and always peeked out the window blinds, super paranoid. He would take a flashlight and turn it on and off constantly, thinking people were outside...
I’ve only seen one other time, and he does so totally match, 😇it was a welcome surprise as I was watching it on my TV and not my phone this time👍🏻…✌🏻💕
Yes, nice to see the face behind the voice. Love your videos.
Your iconic voice gets me ready for the crazies!
Thank you ❤
I always wanted to know more about this story even though I was just a kid when he died. People were so sad but there was never an explanation as to what happened to his father. I could never figure this out. Some people had opinions that the father was trying to defend himself from Marvin. I couldn’t believe them and I didn’t. His story was so heartbreaking Thank you so much for covering. ❤
What's Going On is a bittersweet, human album which observes pain and societal ills while expressing tenderness and sensitivity. On your channel we see a lot of people who take their childhood pain and trauma and respond with acts of violence toward others. Knowing all this helps me understand Marvin a little better, props to him for taking his pain and making beautiful art with it from a perspective most people are fortunate enough they will never have.
Poor Marvin Jr, I never knew what happened to him. My mom always said when I was young that it was a tragedy, and she grew up during Reagan era so I kind of assumed he had gotten sick....we loved his music....thank you for covering this legend singer, homophobia is always horrible I cant imagine dealing with family abuse and racism on top of that
I just assumed he was sick as well. I called my Mom immediately after watching this. Marvin Jr. story is literally heartbreaking. I pray he's finally at peace.
I am 55, now
Ten years older than Marvin
I find that incredible
R.I.P Marvin, you are so amazingly loved 🌹 💞 ✨ 🎈 🌺 💫 ❣️
He was 45 in 84, what’s incredible is your ignorance
Marvin was born in 1939
@@dannidazzle yes, he was still nearly 45, day before his birthday, therefore 10 years younger than I, at 55, am now 😊
@@fone9665 your math skills are bad shorty
Your series deserves to be #1
I agree. You might also enjoy DEADBUG says videos.
It’s sad how if you’re around a bad influence long enough, sooner or later you’ll morph into that influence. I was in a similar situation as Marvin as a kid but luckily I was blessed that my mother separated from my father and I stayed with her. RIP Marvin Jr.
Very well researched and narrated, what a shame that this wonderful singer and songwriter had an awful childhood at the hands of his own father and then to die by the same hand.
Thanks for this great account, I only knew that Marvin's father had killed him, the rest is so upsetting and what a heart-breaking tale.
RIP Marvin, you left us with some fabulous sounds.
OMG!! I CAN PUT A FACE TO YOUR VOICE!!! CALL ME WEIRD I FALL ASLEEP TO YOUR VOICE. Your voice combined with the way you speak is one of the best I've heard in my life
I went to grade school with a beautiful, very meek and nervous girl. She was Pentecostal and now I understand her all these years later. I hope she is well.
This is not Pentecostalism, Pentecostals celebrate Christmas and Easter and go to church on Sundays. I think they ( the Gaye’s) may have been seven day adventists or some other sect. 🤔
@@yinx02exactly.... that's a cult not pentecostal
@@amandanapoli5425 Some consider the Pentecostal movement as cultish. Have you ever researched it? Btw, I was raised Apostolic/COGIC.
@@yinx02
I don’t know about that. I knew a guy in high school who tried to get me to join his Pentecostal group. He didn’t do holidays. Milton was a black guy but recruited white girls, and actually did get a few of them to wear long dresses, refuse to cut their hair, and follow him around. He was a nice guy, wore a suit to school, but his rules were not for me so I didn’t become one of ‘Milton’s girls”. I’ve never been prone to joining religions anyway.
@@yinx02 Seventh-day Adventist celebrate Christmas and Easter as well. They don't believe in speaking in tongues or that the holy spirit makes them god.
Just wanna say, I love your channel and your content. You’re one of the few True Crime channels that manages to keep consistent, fresh content. Keep it up!
You might also enjoy DEADBUG says. I do
That Chapter also does like 2 new true crime videos per week
@@apaaaa recommend 'disturban' if you want pure evil, he also does horror history, I did my thesis on serial killers and he still makes me gag sometimes crazy crazy stuff
@@M0oranshi I used to enjoy disturban but I just can't take his voice anymore. If you like JCS style channels, I'd recommend Red Tree Crime and their 2nd channel Red Tree Stories. Very well executed and is one of my favorite channels now. Also Damon Verial has amazing breakdown skills for interrogations as well as never seen before on TH-cam interrogations.
@@DPSFSU oh if you like JCS you will like 'explore with us'
Absolutely heartbreaking when I hear the stories of others that were victims of abuse by a parent. It’s a very traumatic abuse because as a child, you are so confused why your parent is hurting you. Your parents are supposed to be the person/people you can always count on for support and love.
It dosen't always work out like that. I KNOW BECAUSE I LIVED IT.
It becomes even more confusing as an adult I think. Especially when you have kids, and wouldn’t ever treat your kids like you were, because now you start to really see how wrong it was.
Marvin is one of the most influential singers ever. Especially for the 60's-70's for the the war, the police brutality and the violence among each other😢😢😢😢
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽😘🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽Marvin Gaye Jr is a sweet soul😘
Thank you for covering this. This kind of monster is far more common than what we usually see in the headlines. However, they're often overlooked and permitted to continue their behavior, leading to irreparable damage society suffers as whole through the damage it has on the individuals who endure the abuse and the cycle of violence it often perpetuates.
We need to do far more to intervene and educate people. It IS our business when we see it happen amd it DOES need to be stopped, as well the victims treated for the effects and assisted to escape.
This!👏
This is so sad for Marvin. An abusive Narcissist for a father & a submissive woman who allowed this bad behavior. She should have already known what a horrible man Marvin Sr was when she chose to give up her own son for him. The both of them were awful parents.
You got that right Sir. Thank you for talking about this tragedy. Now I have a better understanding. I was 8 years old going when this went down. I remember my Mom crying. Have a great and blessed day. ❤😊
You're awesome. I was interested from beginning to end. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Can you imagine how beautiful things would have been if he had, had two parents that had loved and supported him.
I grew up with his music. I knew every word to every song. I'm kind of glad I didn't know the anguish behind the man. It would have made me sad to hear his music, knowing how horrible the child inside still hurt. I never heard the entire story all these years. Thank you for this.
God rest that child inside the man who gave us so much and suffered throughout his life.
What a sad story, but you did your usual respectful, well researched job with it.
My first kiss was during "Sexual Healing" at my friends prom after-party. 😢
Really blows that so many people, so talented died so young. I will always have a massive hole in my heart for Marvin Gaye and Elliot Smith, in particular.
Lol what year was it pimp? I can actually remember the 1st time a chick let me grab her booty from slow dancing to a song but I cannot remember my 1st kiss.
@@ekbanks😂😂😂😂😂
So, before I actually watch this episode, THANK YOU for finally letting us get a peek at the man with "golden voice".❤
I'm already crying it makes me so sick and sad how Marvin was treated....and then what happens later in his life it's so sad...he sang about love...and had such a hard time with it...I can't imagine treating my daughter like that...I hope he is resting well I have always loved Marvin so much learning more about him and his life is absolutely needed thank you so much for this absolutely amazing video ❤❤❤
Thanks for doing this case. It was great to see your face this time around! It’s also great that you put the help lines at the end. Thanks for being one of the top true crime channels!!
There was a face to the narration, pictures, videos and everything else. I'm loving that
This video will probably go viral. Marvin Gaye to this day still one of the most known musicians in the world
Thank you so much for ALWAYS bringing us the FULL unfiltered story. Like so many have said, we’ve heard this tragic story but never truly knew WHY.
I do remember, when hearing news of his passing, we all thought it was an April fools joke. At least I was hoping it was...I adored him (still do). Thank you for telling his story.
Kudos to you for cutting through the bs, reading between the lines, and relaying the events as accurately and devoid of bias as possible. That is, I have to think, a big part of the success of this channel.
I've loved Marvin Gaye since I was a kid listening to Motown on the radio in the 70s. His voice was smooth as silk & he seemed like a gentle soul. I was broken hearted when I heard he was killed 😢😭 Rest in peace sweet man 🌠
I like the addition of adding yourself to the video & hope you'll continue to do this in your future vids. This is such a tragic case. Sr was hardly punished & then tried to benefit from his heinous actions.
I know, right?😇, I’ve only seen him once, and that was whilst watching on my phone, watching on my TV, Up Pops Jiles, which I love seeing his face, he totally matches his voice.👍🏻, puts a face to his rightly timed comments that he makes during uploads✌🏻💕
Omg face reveal 👌🏼 thanks buddy keep up the great work absolutely love ur content ☯️❤️🇬🇧
He's revealed his face before. I agree though, brilliant content.
Look about on old uploads, Instagram etc Jiles isn't anonymous...though great more people are joining his channel. Cheers❤
hes shown his face before. he did an interview with the father of the kid who was interrogated while having a bullet in his head.
Definitely not the first time he's shown his face but yes I agree I like the mixture of showing the narrator speaking and pictures or video related to the story!
Thank you Jiles for covering this. No one ever have. You are the best. H
MG was a Genius, and my heart is broken that his Dad felt like he had no other choice but to take this gift from God away from us! R.I.Power Marvin, you will always live in us! Love you!!!!
So nice to be able to put a face to the voice. Love your work.
So awesome to see you!!! Love everything you do, your passion and dedication is sure appreciated ❤
What a tragedy! A voice like no other! Thank you for another great video.
Definitely one of the top 5 singing voices to ever be heard with the social commentary in top. 🙏 RIP Marvin.
💜💜💜💜💜 So glad you did this episode!! I grew up listening to Motown because of my Momma. This is just so tragic because even after the way his father treated him growing up , Marvin still took care of him with his success. My heart went out to his poor mama.
I was 12 when Marvin Gaye was killed and I remember my parents being horrified and sad, but this is way more info than I ever knew ALSOOOOO I love seeing your face! Voice only videos feel less personal me, like a regular documentary. Nothing wrong with documentaries, but (speaking just for myself) I'm on TH-cam to see real people telling real stories, and seeing your face helps me connect with the voice and the story better
What a sad story. Loss of a wonderful singer and lost soul. His father was no Godly man . He was a NARCISSIST. So sad racism still even existed makes me sick he couldn't even go to the movies with his friends. Thank you Jiles for sharing this story. You should really show that handsome face more often .
Many narcissists hide through religion
@@sofialovinglife597 I didnt think of that till you said it.
@@sofialovinglife597 omg yes they do
Always thought you just hired a random voice over artist, cool to see its actually you! Love the content
This is the best TH-cam video covering Marvin Gaye's death that I've ever seen. You actually included in all the backstory and truth and didn't ride off his dad's bullshit claims that he was his son's victim.
I had no idea this happened. What a tragic story. Thank you for covering it.
You really give so much respect to the Black community. As you do with others but as a Black woman 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💯💯 Thank You.
WTF!?!
@@-Datura- your problem is? Have to use sentences for people to understand your point…… 😑 he covers cases of all races. So do tell why your so bothered by my comment? Monsters come in all races, all sizes, all shapes….
Bitch why? Lmao 🤣
@@-Datura- she’s delusional
I’m black and you are not apart of my community and we are not a cult
I was raised Pentecostal. And yes, it’s as cultish as it sounds.
Rest In Peace Marvin ❤
I was raised pentecostal and this is super extreme by our standards. I know some strict ones and this is too far for them. Dude was just a monster.
I don’t understand why he went back home as a grown man knowing how his father was just don’t understand
@Shirley Anthony 64 pattern of abuse unfortunately.
There are the real Pentecost Churches and then there are the Cult ones…. My best friend is Pentecost and she explaned that to me.
Pentecostal go to church on Sunday. That's seventh-day Adventist Church I thought 🤔
Wow! you have a knack of going into detail but making it into an intriguing and entertaining story well done 👏
I love the way you tell a story. I remember when this happened. We lost a treasure that day.
I was born in the 80s, so he was always an iconic, yet ghostly voice to me. I never knew how handsome and beautiful he was or about his troubles
It's still going on Marvin, I'm sorry.
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What is?
@@KiRplease Listen to the song (What's going on) it explains it better than I ever could.
@@kellie5476I felt it completely ❤❤
A six-year suspended sentence and five years' probation for cold blooded murder.
Iconic intro!!! Great job with this one. Heard it many times by many people!!! Your dry humor you throw into your content is hilarious to me!!! 🎉😂😅
I love it!! TruRed Crime does the same thing, it's great!
“This is monsters” I love this channel! I got so excited with I saw Marvin Gaye! No one has done this coverage like this!! Great job! 🙌🏽♥️
End conclusion: Really sad story. His father was sick. And mom helpless. Get your kid out of there if you know he’s not loved or in danger. Ugh! Marvin was the victim of a demonic man.
What a guy… amazing, timeless, transcendental!! ❤️
I see you!🖤 Thanks for everything you do for us and victims. It's important and you are appreciated.🖤
I love when I get the notification that Monsters dropped a new video!! Thanks for all your handwork!! Great presentation and delivery!! You are appreciated ❤️ 🔥 ❤️🔥
It’s very difficult for me to watch stories when the other parent or responsible adult does not protect their child from the abuser. I feel strongly that that person is accountable as well. I do speak from a level of experience as I was in a similar situation many decades ago and I made a very different decision to immediately get my child to safety. I understand the challenges especially of women in the past not having the same opportunities of supporting children without a partner however this is never acceptable to me to tolerate the abuse of vulnerable children. Only my position for what’s it’s worth. ❤️
I agree the mother is just as responsible.
Agreed. & the mother was the “bread winner” so why was Marvin sr even around I don’t understand
We’ve got to study abuse, to help people better to leave it. Because it should be a crime to witness/allow abuse to happen to children period.
@@dietdrpepper15 Yes! I always want to learn why people behave destructively and I feel that helps us teach and model healthy choices to prevent some of this happening again. And to spread the word on all the resources available. ❤️
@@KourtneiSierra Yes! Agreed she likely didn’t stay for economic reasons. Thank you for bringing that out. 👍
It's so horrible that anyone should suffer at the hands of those they should love and trust the most. Such a sad sorry for this beautiful man :(
Yes, it is horrible. Something that would be difficult for you to comprehend.
@@lyndiablack9098 what are you insinuating? Difficult for ME to comprehend how?
Jiles, I’m so very happy that your channel keeps exploding! I’ve been a huge fan of yours for a couple of years. I want to say you showed your face one other time before this episode, I hope you keep working it in. Also, I can’t tell you HOW excited I was to see that YOU were covering Marvin’s story this morning. I was an 80s kid who adored 60s music. I’ve only seen news articles an VH1 blurbs about this tragedy, and they all pretty much said the same thing: that “the monster” (I refuse to say his name) killed Marvin because of Jr’s addictions and being broke. I knew there had to be more to it than that, and you delivered. It takes the heartbreaking murder to new tragedies to know how much Marvin suffered at the murderer’s hands all his life. Thanks again, cheers!💜💛💚