That's the thing those bozos who try to beat the train at grade crossings forget about - how long it takes to drag that much mass back down from "really booking along" to "dead stop".
It also depends on the geography trains in the plains can go faster than trains in the east and west coasts due to hills, mountains, tight curves, and other things. Trains on the plains generally dont have any mountains in their way till the Rockies or when they get to the Appalachians. Yea they still have hills but it's a good deal of nicely sloped hills .
East bound and down, loaded up and locomotin' we gonna do what they say can't be done We've got a long train to haul and a short time to get there I'm east bound, just watch ol' GEvo run
Even though trains were invented in the UK, and even though Japan has trains light years ahead of what America does.... yeah... loud noises are American I guess.
@@mikeingeorgia1 I agree. When it comes to efficiently hauling freight by rails, USA is light years beyond most European countries. France, for instance, trucks almost everything.
not flexing, I self checkout with ~40-50 items regularly and make sure I go fast enough to outpace my "cashier checkout 'ghost'" - so I found this pretty hilarious 😆.
It's moving pretty good for sure. Even running my train at 79/80mph, it doesn't feel like it when you're operating until you go past something like a grade crossing or running along side buildings and such.
One of the very first exotic sounds I heard was the daily freight train passing in front of granny's house in Oklahoma. That was so neat for a 4 year old kid. My parents are buried in the same town and when I visit their graves today, a freight train usually passes by the cemetery, bringing memories of 75 years ago.
For me, there's so much emotion watching something as large and powerful as a freight train rumbling down the track at speed. It's something I've been fascinated by since I can remember...
I remember the ATSF of the 1980s when they would run 1.5 mile long Freight trains at 90 to 100mph on their mains. That was a site to see and the hobos riders were grabbing on for their dear life. I wish I had a way to record those fast trains back then.
My dad retired from the railroad as an engineer. He used to do runs from Avon to St. Louis stops in Mattoon, IL and we’d pick him up in IL, for deadheads!! RIP DADDY 💕🇺🇸😢
🥺😢 loosing someone who was attached to our life from day 1, since we were born. Its the bond we had, its the memories, it's the time we spent together, it's everything. And finally they departs from this world. Rest In Peace 💕
There used to be a train on the old Milwaukee Road/Soo Line called "The Ford Fast" or "Ford train" that hauled auto parts from Milwaukee to Ford's plant in Minneapolis-St. Paul. It pretty much was authorized to run a passenger speed and usually followed right on the approaches of Amtrak's westbound Empire Builder. Sadly when Ford shut down its pickup plant so also did the train go away.
When I was a conductor I ran 55mph and 60mph main on the regular and hitting those cross overs would sling the shit out of you and throw whatever you on on the desk in the floor. The old conrail units with wore out trucks was the WORST. I had an engineer about shoot the train after it progressively got worse like a death wobble after going over a set of cross overs. It threw me into the floor and he caught himself on the control panel.
In my college days I hopped a train from around the Salton Sea ,Indio Ca all the way to San Antonio Tx outvin west Texas along the Mexican border it is very remote, the train was running 5 engines, it was a very long train it seemed to be running 80 or 90 mph, the wheels were lifting off the tracks, the cars were rocking from side to side banging as it barrelled along for hours...many of the "hobos" were ex Nam vets, they were good guys, by and large, trying to deal with the horror of what they had been through in combat, you never really get over it, because it's impossible to forget
The Train @ Van Horn: Years ago my wife and I were on our way from San Diego to Dallas. Just outside of Van Horn we stopped for lunch at a Subway. Across the town road, and an open field, around 100 yards away, was a berm with RR tracks on top. We were eating on the patio so had an open view. After a short time a locomotive/cars came into view from the east. The train was actually slowing, and came to a stop directly in front of us. One man came out of a side door of the lead locomotive, climbed down, and headed our way. He entered the Subway and after a little while came out carrying bags of chow. He went back to the train and entered the same door. Then we heard those huge engines (turbines?) start winding up and slowly started on it's way. We gave up counting the cars after 120.
Wow!!! I love trains, when the whistle blows, it's haunting but thrilling! Years ago rode on Amtrak with my daughters to Phoenix from Cal double decker, dining, it was fabulous!!!
We went to Vancouver for a conference, and decided to tuck in a little sightseeing on the leading edge. So we flew out a week early, and took a train called The Rocky Mountaineer from Vancouver to Banff. It was paradise on rails, tooling through the Canadian Rockies, hanging out the vestibule snapping pictures and checking out the wildlife and mountains and so forth. Note: a full grown moose is NOT a small animal, not when he can be standing down in a drainage ditch and still look you straight in the eye through the coach window as you roll by!
The tracks near my home were welded. The trains went from 45 miles per hour to 70 miles per hour and are much longer. They are impressive to behold and sound very different than when they were going 45 miles per hour. Of course the track is also different after being welded.
I invite folks to go to Mazon IL on the BNSF transcon and watch the intermodals fly through there, horns blaring for the multiple crossings. it can be exhilarating
Reminds me of the time I spent outside Kansas City in 2009 and we used to go to Olathe, Kansas and watch BNSF trains fly through there. Multiple crossings spaced only a block apart and some of the trains ran through town at 60, blowing for each one. Now Olathe is a quiet zone and about half the crossings have been closed.
No longer hosts the Southwest Chief, but they still run fast on that line. I've been stopped many times at the IL 47 grade crossing on trips too and from Tennessee.
@@deloreanman14 Olathe has that relatively new overpass (for the trains, that is) that is quite attractive and eliminated many grade crossings. Trains in the KC area just aren't as numerous as they used to be. We still have plenty of coal trains here in St. Joseph, where I live. The hoppers are all getting quite old.
I remember one time I was in South Australia, north of Adelaide (serial killer country, but let's not go there) and before dawn I was stopped at a rural level crossing in the middle of nowhere and saw a freight train that was double stacked going at terrific speed. Never seen anything like it before or since.
Ran alongside an Eastbound freighter coming into Edmonton in the early 80s. 75 mph, set a record from Jasper to Edm, next day entire crew was suspended/fired, can't recall.
60 to 65 is pretty typical in my area. I used to pace one to work almost every morning, as the road I took ran alongside the track. If I timed it right, I'd catch every single light green as the train caused cross road traffic to stop.
My Dad took the train to work 35 years in NJ to the city.at night the train horn I could hear in the distance and was a comfortable sound as a kid,as well as the wind hitting the rigging on sailboats in the bay 2 blocks from our house,great memories
Super C's were a sight to behold! We used to make fun of the cabooses and say they were just flopping in the breeze and not touching the rail. One would have to pause to watch a Super C go by because you didn't have long to watch.
I'd recommend the La Plata MO Virtual Railfan cam if you want to see trains going over 60 mph with close to 150 or more cars just feet away from the camera. It's insane.
I live close by there. There's actually an old exempt bridge close to there. I like to hang out there to watch. It has low guard rails and you're just a few feet above the trains. 😉
@@Jfhfi678 th-cam.com/video/uhOGjF609bM/w-d-xo.html From Millard go straight East on the blacktop all the way until you cross Highway V by gibbs. Continue East on the gravel until you dead end at the railroad track on the old bridge. As far as I know you are on a public road there but you're in a Amish farms backyard almost so be respectful.
I used to see the Union Pacific trains run through Bremond, TX at least this fast all the time. One time the Big Boy came through there and the local police department clocked it at 77 mph.
@@robertgarrett2290 yes. I think I read somewhere one since car can weight anywhere from 10-50 sometimes 70 tons, multiply that by a train pulling a miles worth of them, do the math Holy shit
Dear Trex 1094, I live in Germany on one of the most busy Freighttrainlines, here, also through the small villages the trains up to 40 cars come along with 50 to 75 miles an hour in a sequenze up to 165 trains per 24 hours, that totally normal here and they can be f***Ing loud
Love the sound of trains, especially at night. In Japan a local train I was on beat the Bullet train to Tokyo. I asked why we were passing the Bullet train so many times. A Japanese man said they were doing a test run.
Ahh this reminds me of a couple of times I saw some Conrail freights hauling back in the day with all EMD power. There’s nothing like a fast freight in my view.. especially with all EMD power on it
I have seen another video where there was a derailment at an even higher speed. (You can find it by searching Northfork Southern train hits car and derails)
now thats gonna need a lot of days or weeks to clean up i mean like, cars derailed, trees crushed, posibility of a huge fire starting, if it did derail near a road many people would've been injured, property damage yeah you get the picture
I knew a guy who took a Bucket of Lard and greased the train tracks in a small town from one end of the town to the next. He said that it took the train about half a mile from the edge of town to get stopped.
One of the joys of my life was to be standing in first of 3 Amtrak F40phs in New Mexico doing 90 mph +. Feeling 9000 hp under you was like being in a rocket sled.
I ran trains for 28 out of my 30 year career at CSX and once you've done it for that long it really does become just another Sunday drive, but you do have to be mindful of how much weight you have behind you.
It might sound corny and old school,I am 60 plus. But it's something majestic about watching a freight train come thru a crossing with lots of cars. I grew up as a little kid a few 100 yards from a freight yard. And that Tom Sawyer stuff never goes away. There is a sublime message in those horns blowing and train crossing lights. It's almost as if the train is talking and saying outta my my way A holes I got your stuff
Is that really fast? I live in West Texas, and 40 feet from my back door is a track. At night after midnight, they run about 60 mph. But, I've paced them in the car during the day at 70, about a 3/4 mile long train. The mile long trains about 60. What is fast? Most of the fast ones are using 2 engines in front and 2 in the rear. I love living here, as I was a model railroader as a teenager. You can always tell if they are loaded or dry, because the unloaded ones are twice as loud on the tracks. The loaded trains are stealthy and very quiet. Being able to sit on the back porch BBQ'ing, having a beer, and giving together the thumbs up is cool! The engineers know me. Always the horn as I live 100 feet from the crossing. Best home I've ever lived! Search Pat Matheny, Last Train Home railway version. Makes you want to cry.
Few people relealize, that the train and suspension is only part of how fast a,train can go.. The design and maintenance of the tracks are even more important. ...
The maximum speed UK freight trains do is 75mph, such as intermodal and empty stone trains. Most do 60mph, like engineers, oil, coal and aggregate. Even our longest freight, the High Output Ballast Cleaner (HOBC) is no match on length for some of the American trains.
@@Kiera_Jackson74 what? In Canada you have multiple DPU units through out the train and doing 60-75, on very long trains, mostly intermodal! Coal or grain depends on loaded or empty! Even if you said 20mph, it's wrong!
So just to clarify to everyone by freight train I mean “general merchandise” manifest trains. Not UPS/intermodal “Z” trains. Yes those here do run 70 just like out west on the UP and BN. Also enough with other countries. We get trains go much faster outside the US.
Not freight but I remember standing at a GO platform near Toronto and a VIA passenger train ripped through at 150km/h just about a metre away from me. Was pretty wild.
Because I ride those big beautiful beasts high ballin through the night 👌 spent 3 days straight on freight 3 seperate times.. the whistle rumble and RHOHR are sweet music to my ears. Fucking Love trains 👌
My brother was a UP Freight conductor traveling almost entirely from Rocklin, CA. either over the hill to Reno or up the central valley for Dunsmuir. He told me the tracks were so busy they never had a chance to "let loose" and fly.
Awesome video of a freight train scooting along that fast! The clarity of this video is spectacular! Thanks for sharing this video and I'm viewing this from the 1st state of Delaware
This ones moving pretty good, I've seen Milwaukee Road trains in my youth fly through at hair raising speeds and much faster than this. Those trains can really get moving if they have a brave Engineer but most won't go faster than what you see here for obvious safety reasons. If some twit pulled out in front of this heavy mover at this speed, the engineer would finally come to a stop in the next state to see how much paint got scratched off lol, the victim would pretty much be vaporized.
Looks like 3 SD40-2's...that horn...sends ripples of pure joy back thru my veins ! When a train goes by, I ALWAYS wave...not at the crew, but to the Locomotive!!! because I've probably worked on it sometime during it's lifetime...no matter what railroad it was on ! Its like a revisited child !!!
He's got three engines in the front, only one of which he's towing. Both engines could be operational giving you the power and many of the cars are probably empty. His cars look pretty evenly distributed so the weight looks good. Thanks for posting!
I remember watching the trains (Burlington Northern, long before the merger with Santa Fe) go through LaGrange, Illinois (southwest suburb of Chicago). Those freighter screamed through there like a rocket sled on rails.
You can do the math here yourself, and I would suggest using the nine, white ACF covered grain hoppers seen @1:56. 50' each, which equals 450' of train...and if I just count using my head I get about 6.5 seconds. Use six seconds if you want to edge your speed higher. So let's use six--an even number. 88' per second is a speed of 60 mph, so at sixty mph a train would cover a distance of 528 feet in six seconds. This one traveled about 450' in six seconds. 450/528 x 60 (mph) equals 51 mph. Which probably means he's speeding by one+ mph, given the length of time you see the oncoming train on what looks like level ground. Probable speed in this area: 50 mph, so this over-speed will often get an engineer fired. Even for just one mph.
Followup to my previous post: Running times on many railroads are plotted literally to the minute, and an engineer who is too conservative with regard to those plotted times won't necessarily be fired, but he might well end his career relegated to yard work. It is not an easy job. An engineer--and his conductor too--must work together to calculate the times, particularly if the weight and length of the train varies from day to day. Easier with a unit train of generally known length and weight. And then factor in the need to account for "slack" (the empty space between cars, depending on grade conditions). And weather (rail slip/traction). A fun job, I imagine, but not an easy one.
@@FFred-us9tw Then this engineer is just fine, albeit a fair bit slow. Or, it's possible I simply timed it wrong. Always a possibility...but I hope you will at least see my methodology has some merit to it.
60-ish. I once saw an NS intermodal doing every bit of 80, maybe a little more. That guy was breaking a lot of rules but what an experience. I picked up a “tone of voice”’cue from the engineer when he called the previous signal and my instincts said beat it to the next grade crossing. It was worth it. I was familiar with the voices on the radio and I just knew something was up. It was 25 years ago so I won’t get anybody in trouble but still not going to name names.
Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) has Posted that US Freight Trains cannot Exceed 79mph. The Speed Limit is dictated by Signal System in use. Each Railroad has Internal Speed Limits based on Location and Freight being Hauled.
Which is part of why we (in Germany) slowly transition to ETCS, where speeds are limited by the curves and derailment considerations, not the braking distance assumed by physical signal locations.
Same Restrictions apply in the US. Top Speed is ONLY where Track Conditions allow it. It’s not the same speed everywhere and especially not on curves or through heavily populated areas, etc. 79mph was just to Answer what the Top Speed “Allowed” is.
Their is no FRA regulation that says freight trains cannot exceed 79. The only FRA rule regarding 79MPH max speed has to do with lines that lack ATS, ATC or Cab Signals. If you read the FRA track classes you will see the max freight speeds listed. As an example, BNSF has a lot of Class 5 track where Amtrak can run 90MPH because they have signal systems in place that allow that. But Class 5 track is good for 80 MPH freight. In Michigan, Illinois and upstate NY they have quite a bit of Class 6 track which is good for 110MPH passenger or freight. Freight railroads have no desire to run that fast for economic reasons. Which is why they continue to purchase locomotives with max speeds of 70 or 75.
Love the vibration sounds right when the train gets about 50 yards away. Looks like its going downhill too which might be the reason for the extra speed
@@geezeman5675 Yes they can. Typically about a minute of no control inputs before the alerter goes off, and trains have an engineer and a conductor who can then just reach over and give the independent a smack down or something
I have learned why some trains are faster then others. It depends on what they're carrying. Those that have UPS, FED-EX, and the like are high priority and can go 65mph. And trains that carry mixed cargo or new cars go slower because it's not mush of a rush to go from point A to B.
Yes but also remember they're only fast where they're allowed. Not all stretch of track is rifle barrel straight. Houston being a prime example, the busiest line in the city runs smack dab between a very populated and narrow neighborhood in the Heights.
It’s not so much how important what it’s carrying is. it’s simply the type of cars. Intermodal equipment (Well cars, TOFC and Auto Racks) is allowed to run up to 70 MPH by FRA standards. Most standard freight cars that make up manifest trains (box cars, hoopers, tanks, etc) are typically run at no more than 60, in many places 50. For safety reasons. Not priority reasons.
When I was a kid one of our Uncle's and Aunt's house was about 30 feet from a AT&SF track in a tiny town in Kansas. I always loved trains and I swear those freight's would roar past their house. This CNX freighter looks like it's going pretty fast but those trains I used to love to watch sure looked like they were going faster out in rural, flat Kansas. The only bad part was trying to stay asleep at night. A fast freighter came through about every 45 minutes or so. But oh how I loved visiting them and laying penny's on the track hoping to flatten them if they didn't vibrate off the track first.
Where was the video take from? I recall a couple of years back visiting family in Del Ray Beach in Florida, one evening the barriers at the level crossing were lowered and a freight train thundered past. I was surprised by both its speed and length, far longer than any train I’ve seen in the U.K.
We run trains pretty darned long here. Out west (Montana, Wyoming, etc) you can get freights 110, 120 cars long with anywhere from 6 to 9 locomotives - half up front, half cut in midway down the train. Plus they'll tack on some pushers going over the mountain grades.
I've lived less than half a block from the tracks for 60yrs...that train was travelling approx. 50mph. The 'freighters' used to go through my town doing 70mph, about every 1.5hrs every day, AND all night. I could (and still can) sleep through just about anything.
Some people think it's a real gas to mount a locomotive air horn in their truck or car, and randomly blow it rolling thru towns. (*BAAAAAAAAMP*) (*jump out of skin*) What th'!?!?!!?!! :D
If you're on the law you can't go anywhere. The second you hit 12 hours you're dead and can no longer perform service, which includes running the train.
"What's the stopping distance?" "Approximately the diameter of the Earth."
for that... about half a mile
That's the thing those bozos who try to beat the train at grade crossings forget about - how long it takes to drag that much mass back down from "really booking along" to "dead stop".
@@spaghetti9845 depending on a lot of things
Normally all wheels have brakes on them
1/4 of that distance for flat earth worshippers!!! LOL ☺
When the tracks parallel the interstate, I've clocked freight trains in Wyoming and Nebraska doing 70 MPH.
Max speed for freight is different than their set speed..For Amtrak it's higher
It also depends on the geography trains in the plains can go faster than trains in the east and west coasts due to hills, mountains, tight curves, and other things. Trains on the plains generally dont have any mountains in their way till the Rockies or when they get to the Appalachians. Yea they still have hills but it's a good deal of nicely sloped hills .
@@goodeye03 who wants to "wait around". good.
Max track speed on the open areas is designed for 80mph typically.... but 50-70 is usual
Passenger trains are 80 if I’m not mistaken in those places like southern Wyoming, NE, and other flat open places
"Steve. I'll bet you a hundred bucks you can't get that cargo to Houston in 5 hours."
Steve: "Hold my beer."
Lol
Hold my cars
"Steve, you're way behind time;
It's 8: 38, and it's the Old '97;
Gotta put her into Danville on time."
@@haroldwilkes6608 you beat me too it!
East bound and down, loaded up and locomotin'
we gonna do what they say can't be done
We've got a long train to haul and a short time to get there
I'm east bound, just watch ol' GEvo run
Maybe the best horn playing I’ve heard. Great sound, thanks.
Well, when I'm stuck at a RR crossing that's the way I want to see them go through.
No kidding. I swear 99% of time they crawl through at 3 mph. Then, just as the last few cars are about to pass, they stop and backup...
@@nodak81 you must be near a switching yard lol
The sound of that train horn in the distance is pure Americana. Love it!
I totally agree.
Even though trains were invented in the UK, and even though Japan has trains light years ahead of what America does.... yeah... loud noises are American I guess.
@@StephenKershaw1 , we haul more freight on our railroads than everyone else combined
@@mikeingeorgia1 I agree. When it comes to efficiently hauling freight by rails, USA is light years beyond most European countries. France, for instance, trucks almost everything.
@@StephenKershaw1 The US freight network is the most efficient and developed in the world.
When you go through self checkout with 96 items.
Worked a self check at a big box store years ago. Guy came through with a flatbed piled high with stuff-------------212 items.
@@rooftopvoter3015 Ugh! And double Ugh!! 😳😬🤯
not flexing, I self checkout with ~40-50 items regularly and make sure I go fast enough to outpace my "cashier checkout 'ghost'" - so I found this pretty hilarious 😆.
switch the 9 and the 6 and u get the accurate amount of freight cars the train was pulling
@@brandontorres4499 *salutes*
It's moving pretty good for sure. Even running my train at 79/80mph, it doesn't feel like it when you're operating until you go past something like a grade crossing or running along side buildings and such.
Felt that way the first time I rode the Metroliner back in 1995. Didn't quite realize we were going 125 until I watched the poles and timed the marks.
Yeah, but n-scale doesn’t count.
@@snydedon9636 😂😂😂😂
One of the very first exotic sounds I heard was the daily freight train passing in front of granny's house in Oklahoma. That was so neat for a 4 year old kid. My parents are buried in the same town and when I visit their graves today, a freight train usually passes by the cemetery, bringing memories of 75 years ago.
The good guy wouldn't have too much time to escape from the bad guys in a western movie horse chase.
When your alarm doesn't go off in the morning and you have 5 minutes to get to work
Lol
...and it usually takes you 10 minutes to get there on a good day!!! LOL
I suddenly feel like watching “Unstoppable”
For me, there's so much emotion watching something as large and powerful as a freight train rumbling down the track at speed. It's something I've been fascinated by since I can remember...
I remember the ATSF of the 1980s when they would run 1.5 mile long Freight trains at 90 to 100mph on their mains. That was a site to see and the hobos riders were grabbing on for their dear life. I wish I had a way to record those fast trains back then.
' Guys were hanging on with their fingernails, lol. Now, that's funny.
@@arthurhogan3047 I'm crying here
when the true definition of a "Z" train was!!
They had cameras back then believe it or not
@@ommy7672 expensive, tho.
Awesome horn
Epic 🤩
My dad retired from the railroad as an engineer. He used to do runs from Avon to St. Louis stops in Mattoon, IL and we’d pick him up in IL, for deadheads!!
RIP DADDY 💕🇺🇸😢
...NONE of us are getting any YOUNGER-!!!
Rip daddy😞
🥺😢
loosing someone who was attached to our life from day 1, since we were born. Its the bond we had, its the memories, it's the time we spent together, it's everything.
And finally they departs from this world. Rest In Peace 💕
Sorry for you loss 💔
Who cares
There used to be a train on the old Milwaukee Road/Soo Line called "The Ford Fast" or "Ford train" that hauled auto parts from Milwaukee to Ford's plant in Minneapolis-St. Paul. It pretty much was authorized to run a passenger speed and usually followed right on the approaches of Amtrak's westbound Empire Builder.
Sadly when Ford shut down its pickup plant so also did the train go away.
When I was a conductor I ran 55mph and 60mph main on the regular and hitting those cross overs would sling the shit out of you and throw whatever you on on the desk in the floor. The old conrail units with wore out trucks was the WORST. I had an engineer about shoot the train after it progressively got worse like a death wobble after going over a set of cross overs. It threw me into the floor and he caught himself on the control panel.
In my college days I hopped a train from around the Salton Sea ,Indio Ca all the way to San Antonio Tx outvin west Texas along the Mexican border it is very remote, the train was running 5 engines, it was a very long train it seemed to be running 80 or 90 mph, the wheels were lifting off the tracks, the cars were rocking from side to side banging as it barrelled along for hours...many of the "hobos" were ex Nam vets, they were good guys, by and large, trying to deal with the horror of what they had been through in combat, you never really get over it, because it's impossible to forget
The Train @ Van Horn:
Years ago my wife and I were on our way from San Diego to Dallas. Just outside of Van Horn we stopped for lunch at a Subway. Across the town road, and an open field, around 100 yards away, was a berm with RR tracks on top. We were eating on the patio so had an open view. After a short time a locomotive/cars came into view from the east. The train was actually slowing, and came to a stop directly in front of us. One man came out of a side door of the lead locomotive, climbed down, and headed our way. He entered the Subway and after a little while came out carrying bags of chow. He went back to the train and entered the same door. Then we heard those huge engines (turbines?) start winding up and slowly started on it's way. We gave up counting the cars after 120.
Wow!!! I love trains, when the whistle blows, it's haunting but thrilling! Years ago rode on Amtrak with my daughters to Phoenix from Cal double decker, dining, it was fabulous!!!
We went to Vancouver for a conference, and decided to tuck in a little sightseeing on the leading edge. So we flew out a week early, and took a train called The Rocky Mountaineer from Vancouver to Banff. It was paradise on rails, tooling through the Canadian Rockies, hanging out the vestibule snapping pictures and checking out the wildlife and mountains and so forth. Note: a full grown moose is NOT a small animal, not when he can be standing down in a drainage ditch and still look you straight in the eye through the coach window as you roll by!
@@mrz80 That trains now also runs to Denver.
The tracks near my home were welded. The trains went from 45 miles per hour to 70 miles per hour and are much longer. They are impressive to behold and sound very different than when they were going 45 miles per hour. Of course the track is also different after being welded.
Never heard of that, interesting. Where's this?
I invite folks to go to Mazon IL on the BNSF transcon and watch the intermodals fly through there, horns blaring for the multiple crossings. it can be exhilarating
Film it. Upload to YT.
Reminds me of the time I spent outside Kansas City in 2009 and we used to go to Olathe, Kansas and watch BNSF trains fly through there. Multiple crossings spaced only a block apart and some of the trains ran through town at 60, blowing for each one. Now Olathe is a quiet zone and about half the crossings have been closed.
No longer hosts the Southwest Chief, but they still run fast on that line. I've been stopped many times at the IL 47 grade crossing on trips too and from Tennessee.
@@deloreanman14 Olathe has that relatively new overpass (for the trains, that is) that is quite attractive and eliminated many grade crossings. Trains in the KC area just aren't as numerous as they used to be. We still have plenty of coal trains here in St. Joseph, where I live. The hoppers are all getting quite old.
Same with BNSF where I am.
He was probably a”freight” to go any faster
good.
You've "gone off the rails" with that joke. You could almost say you're "loco".
...I'm not proud of these. 😂
These comments are freightening.
I think he broke traction with that one!
That's a "load" of bull. I'm gon[dola] have to stop you there....
I remember one time I was in South Australia, north of Adelaide (serial killer country, but let's not go there) and before dawn I was stopped at a rural level crossing in the middle of nowhere and saw a freight train that was double stacked going at terrific speed. Never seen anything like it before or since.
Ran alongside an Eastbound freighter coming into Edmonton in the early 80s. 75 mph, set a record from Jasper to Edm, next day entire crew was suspended/fired, can't recall.
60 to 65 is pretty typical in my area. I used to pace one to work almost every morning, as the road I took ran alongside the track. If I timed it right, I'd catch every single light green as the train caused cross road traffic to stop.
My favorite green light of all!
My Dad took the train to work 35 years in NJ to the city.at night the train horn I could hear in the distance and was a comfortable sound as a kid,as well as the wind hitting the rigging on sailboats in the bay 2 blocks from our house,great memories
Reminds me of the days of Santa Fe and their "Super C Freight" across Arizona had authority for 90 mph.
Super C's were a sight to behold! We used to make fun of the cabooses and say they were just flopping in the breeze and not touching the rail. One would have to pause to watch a Super C go by because you didn't have long to watch.
Sounds like a full brass section of a orchestra for a horn. I love it.
When i was a kid we used to pace New York Central freight along US6 between Sandusky and Huron Ohio at 60 to 65, And that was steam! They hauled ass!
What year was it?
Some passenger steam locomotives regularly exceeded 100 mph [162 kph] on a regular bases back in their day; after WW2 until the jet age.
I live around there too.
The Amtrak Acela Express routinely does up to 150.
@@crankychris2 Yes, the "two-miles-a-minute flyers."
I'd recommend the La Plata MO Virtual Railfan cam if you want to see trains going over 60 mph with close to 150 or more cars just feet away from the camera. It's insane.
I got that saved ,it is freaky.
Most of those trains are intermodal. How fast do the manifests, autoracks, & tanker trains go through there?
read the discription
I live close by there. There's actually an old exempt bridge close to there. I like to hang out there to watch. It has low guard rails and you're just a few feet above the trains. 😉
@@Jfhfi678 th-cam.com/video/uhOGjF609bM/w-d-xo.html
From Millard go straight East on the blacktop all the way until you cross Highway V by gibbs. Continue East on the gravel until you dead end at the railroad track on the old bridge. As far as I know you are on a public road there but you're in a Amish farms backyard almost so be respectful.
Love the horn technique, his longs are long and his short is really short. Lol.
Spot on!
I used to see the Union Pacific trains run through Bremond, TX at least this fast all the time. One time the Big Boy came through there and the local police department clocked it at 77 mph.
Sounds made-up
@@KK_on_KK still sounds good to me.
@@rearspeaker6364 what does?
@@KK_on_KK big boy doing 77mph. ed will never let her get above 60. must have been doppler effect from the driving wheels.
the power of these machines will never cease to amaze me
And weight in tonnage too
@@robertgarrett2290 yes. I think I read somewhere one since car can weight anywhere from 10-50 sometimes 70 tons, multiply that by a train pulling a miles worth of them, do the math
Holy shit
@@TheAdx1001one loaded coal hopper maxes at 286,000 lbs .... 143 tons.
@raylrodr and that's ONE car! Was just talking to a guy on FB who's a conductor and he said his last train total was 17,000 TONS! Absolutely insane
@@TheAdx1001 that is correct
Dear Trex 1094, I live in Germany on one of the most busy Freighttrainlines, here, also through the small villages the trains up to 40 cars come along with 50 to 75 miles an hour in a sequenze up to 165 trains per 24 hours, that totally normal here and they can be f***Ing loud
You have nice, well maintained tracks in Deutschland.
Love the sound of trains, especially at night. In Japan a local train I was on beat the Bullet train to Tokyo. I asked why we were passing the Bullet train so many times. A Japanese man said they were doing a test run.
Ahh this reminds me of a couple of times I saw some Conrail freights hauling back in the day with all EMD power. There’s nothing like a fast freight in my view.. especially with all EMD power on it
Shoreline freights normally ran at 60....2 or 3 U25B.
I definitely miss those Conrail blues.
God, Can you imagine a derailment at the speed?
I have seen another video where there was a derailment at an even higher speed. (You can find it by searching Northfork Southern train hits car and derails)
now thats gonna need a lot of days or weeks to clean up
i mean like, cars derailed, trees crushed, posibility of a huge fire starting, if it did derail near a road many people would've been injured, property damage
yeah you get the picture
@@turnerdeedo4633 mer rouge? or whatever
@@cs-gj3yf Oh yeah, the Mer Rouge train was going about that fast as well.
The tankers that fell down the hill in Canada were going very fast. That was a disaster that changed rules worldwide on airbrakes and PTC.
I knew a guy who took a Bucket of Lard and greased the train tracks in a small town from one end of the town to the next. He said that it took the train about half a mile from the edge of town to get stopped.
"Keep on pushin', mama, know they're running late." Yep, fast freight.
Imagine being the engineer at that speed with so much tonnage behind you. Lots of responsibility.
One of the joys of my life was to be standing in first of 3 Amtrak F40phs in New Mexico doing 90 mph +. Feeling 9000 hp under you was like being in a rocket sled.
I ran trains for 28 out of my 30 year career at CSX and once you've done it for that long it really does become just another Sunday drive, but you do have to be mindful of how much weight you have behind you.
@Rogeball PB Catastrophe
...and you're not gonna do much about it in the short run...ask any track-crossing idiot that got hit...
It’s fast but nothing to write home about. Nice video thanks for posting.
Agreed. I've seen a few going that fast.
Thanks man! These folks kills me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ikr? It looked like it was going 40, maybe 50mph at most.
Agreed have seen them moving faster, still like the video.
Ran them a lot faster on the PennCentral, 80mph and above.
If you want to fast forward to the train here’s the time it’s at. 1:30
It might sound corny and old school,I am 60 plus. But it's something majestic about watching a freight train come thru a crossing with lots of cars. I grew up as a little kid a few 100 yards from a freight yard. And that Tom Sawyer stuff never goes away. There is a sublime message in those horns blowing and train crossing lights. It's almost as if the train is talking and saying outta my my way A holes I got your stuff
Is that really fast? I live in West Texas, and 40 feet from my back door is a track. At night after midnight, they run about 60 mph. But, I've paced them in the car during the day at 70, about a 3/4 mile long train. The mile long trains about 60. What is fast? Most of the fast ones are using 2 engines in front and 2 in the rear. I love living here, as I was a model railroader as a teenager. You can always tell if they are loaded or dry, because the unloaded ones are twice as loud on the tracks. The loaded trains are stealthy and very quiet. Being able to sit on the back porch BBQ'ing, having a beer, and giving together the thumbs up is cool! The engineers know me. Always the horn as I live 100 feet from the crossing. Best home I've ever lived! Search Pat Matheny, Last Train Home railway version. Makes you want to cry.
Misaligned rail joint - kaBANG kaBANG kaBANG kaBANG kaBANG kaBANG kaBANG kaBANG kaBANG kaBANG :)
seems like they put quite a bit of work into those rails to be able to run like that :-)
Yeah looks like those are cement ties.
Few people relealize, that the train and suspension is only part of how fast a,train can go..
The design and maintenance of the tracks are even more important. ...
Plus those rails are about 50 years old...
If you only knew what they were truly like you would not be so close
Maintenance of way is the way to go to promote faster train speed. Cars standing still earn minimal revenue.
Here in the UK freight trains travel 75 mph regularly, some at 100 mph but they don't haul this much
The stone trains between the west country and London can be very long and very fast, especially when they have a 66 on the front!
The maximum speed UK freight trains do is 75mph, such as intermodal and empty stone trains. Most do 60mph, like engineers, oil, coal and aggregate. Even our longest freight, the High Output Ballast Cleaner (HOBC) is no match on length for some of the American trains.
Canada the trains are 5km long and travel at 20km/hr
Yes I've seen freight trains on the East Coast Main Line go about the speed of this train but they are about a third of the length.
@@Kiera_Jackson74 what? In Canada you have multiple DPU units through out the train and doing 60-75, on very long trains, mostly intermodal! Coal or grain depends on loaded or empty!
Even if you said 20mph, it's wrong!
Wow that train is going pretty fast I love the sound of the horn too
This is the fastest freight train you ever seen you kidding me
Brilliant.. Presentation, thank you for your time.. ❤️
So just to clarify to everyone by freight train I mean “general merchandise” manifest trains. Not UPS/intermodal “Z” trains. Yes those here do run 70 just like out west on the UP and BN.
Also enough with other countries. We get trains go much faster outside the US.
There is no BN railroad. Been gone for 26 years
@@rossthomas6162 BNSF
70mph!!!!!!
I was a Trainman 55 was the fastest we had done by the FRA R.R.
@@rossthomas6162 BNSF
Not freight but I remember standing at a GO platform near Toronto and a VIA passenger train ripped through at 150km/h just about a metre away from me. Was pretty wild.
The sound of that horn scares the hell out of me.
Yeah, that horn is kinda creepy.
Puts me to sleep...
Right, happy not to live next to a crossing.
Because I ride those big beautiful beasts high ballin through the night 👌 spent 3 days straight on freight 3 seperate times.. the whistle rumble and RHOHR are sweet music to my ears. Fucking Love trains 👌
😂😂😂😂
My brother was a UP Freight conductor traveling almost entirely from Rocklin, CA. either over the hill to Reno or up the central valley for Dunsmuir. He told me the tracks were so busy they never had a chance to "let loose" and fly.
Awesome video of a freight train scooting along that fast! The clarity of this video is spectacular! Thanks for sharing this video and I'm viewing this from the 1st state of Delaware
Why is this in everyone's recommended? Nice video, nevertheless.
Because it’s 2021 and we need more train videos in our lives.
@@Nokorola Yeppers
I watch a lot of train based content
@@Victuncio Good
This ones moving pretty good, I've seen Milwaukee Road trains in my youth fly through at hair raising speeds and much faster than this. Those trains can really get moving if they have a brave Engineer but most won't go faster than what you see here for obvious safety reasons. If some twit pulled out in front of this heavy mover at this speed, the engineer would finally come to a stop in the next state to see how much paint got scratched off lol, the victim would pretty much be vaporized.
CSX: So how well can you drive a train?
Engineer: Yes.
@Slim Pickens No thats a CSX
Looks like 3 SD40-2's...that horn...sends ripples of pure joy back thru my veins ! When a train goes by, I ALWAYS wave...not at the crew, but to the Locomotive!!! because I've probably worked on it sometime during it's lifetime...no matter what railroad it was on ! Its like a revisited child !!!
Well you only got 1 locomotive right the other two, are a GP38-3 and a GP38-2.
He's got three engines in the front, only one of which he's towing. Both engines could be operational giving you the power and many of the cars are probably empty. His cars look pretty evenly distributed so the weight looks good. Thanks for posting!
For a train in the east that is pretty fast. But out here where I am they go faster lol
Um what is phrase you guys use for this type of upmanship? That can be repeated on this media that is!
@@robertbruce7686 what? lol
Robert Bruce it’s a relevant fact. In the west and parts of the Midwest they go much much faster. Often 70.
@@henrydoesart158 and 80 for passenger trains
In the Midwest this is just an average speed I've seen them upwards of 60-70 mph quite often
Sir, looks like ur I phone arrived 2 days ahead of schedule!
LoL good one 👍🤣
That’s not fork and way train service ,,,, they are learning to be bull haulers ...
No. That appears to be 45 or 50 which is average freight speed.
I remember watching the trains (Burlington Northern, long before the merger with Santa Fe) go through LaGrange, Illinois (southwest suburb of Chicago). Those freighter screamed through there like a rocket sled on rails.
"CONVOY"!
You can do the math here yourself, and I would suggest using the nine, white ACF covered grain hoppers seen @1:56. 50' each, which equals 450' of train...and if I just count using my head I get about 6.5 seconds. Use six seconds if you want to edge your speed higher. So let's use six--an even number. 88' per second is a speed of 60 mph, so at sixty mph a train would cover a distance of 528 feet in six seconds. This one traveled about 450' in six seconds. 450/528 x 60 (mph) equals 51 mph. Which probably means he's speeding by one+ mph, given the length of time you see the oncoming train on what looks like level ground. Probable speed in this area: 50 mph, so this over-speed will often get an engineer fired. Even for just one mph.
Followup to my previous post: Running times on many railroads are plotted literally to the minute, and an engineer who is too conservative with regard to those plotted times won't necessarily be fired, but he might well end his career relegated to yard work. It is not an easy job. An engineer--and his conductor too--must work together to calculate the times, particularly if the weight and length of the train varies from day to day. Easier with a unit train of generally known length and weight. And then factor in the need to account for "slack" (the empty space between cars, depending on grade conditions). And weather (rail slip/traction). A fun job, I imagine, but not an easy one.
This is Milepost 635.2 on the Nahunta Sub. Mixed freight speed here is 60MPH.
@@FFred-us9tw Then this engineer is just fine, albeit a fair bit slow. Or, it's possible I simply timed it wrong. Always a possibility...but I hope you will at least see my methodology has some merit to it.
60-ish. I once saw an NS intermodal doing every bit of 80, maybe a little more. That guy was breaking a lot of rules but what an experience. I picked up a “tone of voice”’cue from the engineer when he called the previous signal and my instincts said beat it to the next grade crossing. It was worth it. I was familiar with the voices on the radio and I just knew something was up. It was 25 years ago so I won’t get anybody in trouble but still not going to name names.
Reminds me of visiting Geneva Ohio as a kid. They whipped through there even faster. Even an occasional hot box for additional excitement
Trains are so interesting, everything about them is so fascinating
Yes.... Yes... Yes...
55mph Is max for a manifest train. And 70mph for a "Z" nothing out of the ordinary for us.🇺🇸👍
I ran a manifest train at work the other day all box cars max speed was 60 mph
@@donaldschlosser6964 all beer boxcars???? Its like a "z" without the ups!
@Slim Pickens You might look at that video again, say around 1:28, that's clearly a CSX train.
Really nice video! That CSX freight train was fast!!
I love watching these freight trains!
Definitely got it motoring on. Nice catch . Thanks for sharing... Wilmer-IHVRR
Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) has Posted that US Freight Trains cannot Exceed 79mph. The Speed Limit is dictated by Signal System in use. Each Railroad has Internal Speed Limits based on Location and Freight being Hauled.
Which is part of why we (in Germany) slowly transition to ETCS, where speeds are limited by the curves and derailment considerations, not the braking distance assumed by physical signal locations.
Same Restrictions apply in the US. Top Speed is ONLY where Track Conditions allow it. It’s not the same speed everywhere and especially not on curves or through heavily populated areas, etc. 79mph was just to Answer what the Top Speed “Allowed” is.
Their is no FRA regulation that says freight trains cannot exceed 79. The only FRA rule regarding 79MPH max speed has to do with lines that lack ATS, ATC or Cab Signals. If you read the FRA track classes you will see the max freight speeds listed. As an example, BNSF has a lot of Class 5 track where Amtrak can run 90MPH because they have signal systems in place that allow that. But Class 5 track is good for 80 MPH freight. In Michigan, Illinois and upstate NY they have quite a bit of Class 6 track which is good for 110MPH passenger or freight. Freight railroads have no desire to run that fast for economic reasons. Which is why they continue to purchase locomotives with max speeds of 70 or 75.
Love the vibration sounds right when the train gets about 50 yards away. Looks like its going downhill too which might be the reason for the extra speed
The driver heard there was 1 PlayStation 5 so he quickly u turned and gunned it into notch 8
Yeah, that guy is cooking.
Probably had to take a number 2 and was in a hurry to get to his next stop lol 😂
Number 2?...no shit.
Trains have bathrooms in them
@@Cal90208 The engineer can’t just get up and use the bathroom though
@@geezeman5675 the conductor takes over
@@geezeman5675 Yes they can. Typically about a minute of no control inputs before the alerter goes off, and trains have an engineer and a conductor who can then just reach over and give the independent a smack down or something
In the UK our modals are permitted up to 75. That'd be the fastest you've seen!
Yes, and they would be one level and a half mile long at best.
@@jasoncutlip950 half a mile... Might wanna check your tape measure there. We go much bigger than that.
Lol... Sure ya do big guy. I digress, your massive 3/4 mile trains are very impressive.
KPH?
@@christianmotley262 MPH
I have learned why some trains are faster then others. It depends on what they're carrying. Those that have UPS, FED-EX, and the like are high priority and can go 65mph. And trains that carry mixed cargo or new cars go slower because it's not mush of a rush to go from point A to B.
Thanks for the info. Never thought about that!
Yes but also remember they're only fast where they're allowed. Not all stretch of track is rifle barrel straight. Houston being a prime example, the busiest line in the city runs smack dab between a very populated and narrow neighborhood in the Heights.
It’s not so much how important what it’s carrying is. it’s simply the type of cars. Intermodal equipment (Well cars, TOFC and Auto Racks) is allowed to run up to 70 MPH by FRA standards. Most standard freight cars that make up manifest trains (box cars, hoopers, tanks, etc) are typically run at no more than 60, in many places 50. For safety reasons. Not priority reasons.
When I was a kid one of our Uncle's and Aunt's house was about 30 feet from a AT&SF track in a tiny town in Kansas. I always loved trains and I swear those freight's would roar past their house. This CNX freighter looks like it's going pretty fast but those trains I used to love to watch sure looked like they were going faster out in rural, flat Kansas. The only bad part was trying to stay asleep at night. A fast freighter came through about every 45 minutes or so. But oh how I loved visiting them and laying penny's on the track hoping to flatten them if they didn't vibrate off the track first.
Beautiful! The 400 on C and NW and the Hiawatha on Milwaukee Road would scream through northern Illinois
What is the hurry? lol
He wants to get home 😂
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Auto train is late, and Amtrak isn’t happy
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Where was the video take from? I recall a couple of years back visiting family in Del Ray Beach in Florida, one evening the barriers at the level crossing were lowered and a freight train thundered past. I was surprised by both its speed and length, far longer than any train I’ve seen in the U.K.
We run trains pretty darned long here. Out west (Montana, Wyoming, etc) you can get freights 110, 120 cars long with anywhere from 6 to 9 locomotives - half up front, half cut in midway down the train. Plus they'll tack on some pushers going over the mountain grades.
“Engineer blowin’ the whistle long & long... can’t stop the train he’s gotta let it roll on!”
everybody's scramblin and jumpin around!!!
That is not a whistle, that a K5HL horn.
I've lived less than half a block from the tracks for 60yrs...that train was travelling approx. 50mph.
The 'freighters' used to go through my town doing 70mph, about every 1.5hrs every day, AND all night.
I could (and still can) sleep through just about anything.
I love all of your videos and stories on TH-cam on trains everyday
I'm glad you put that 'probably' in the title
Im retired CN I have saw them going that fast.Nothing special here.
Reminds me of the movie unstoppable, where they was trying to catch the train with that engine in reverse
That Train would pretty much vaporize a car or truck
You should see it when we hit cattle at 70, Hamburgers for everyone.🤣
Christ!!!!! That's the longest train I've ever seen. That is alot of carriages. Absolutely amazing!!!!!
I love the American train horn. I spent some time in Europe and those horns sound like a sick animal.
Some people think it's a real gas to mount a locomotive air horn in their truck or car, and randomly blow it rolling thru towns.
(*BAAAAAAAAMP*)
(*jump out of skin*) What th'!?!?!!?!!
:D
The crew may have been "on the law," meaning they were about to hit their maximum work hours and needed to get to their final destination fast.
If you're on the law you can't go anywhere. The second you hit 12 hours you're dead and can no longer perform service, which includes running the train.
That’s 1 of the reasons you never drive around those gates! You don’t know how fast those trains travel
You've ever seen? Better expand your world a little
That wasn't a switch Crew? 😆
This is How we always hope the train goes by at every crossing
In France, trains like this goes 3 times faster but the time to wait in Crossing is way.... Way longer
I got passed by a union Pacific train I was going 78 and it flew bye It was hauling container cars
He was hauling ass!! Because the Overspeed protection kicks in at 73 mph...
That engineer must have had a hot date that night.
When you realize the freight trains in Maine must be speeding bullets then😅
Ha, I was thinking similar. It probably just feels faster in person though, no way they're actually going faster than 60.
The Sane in Maine stay Mainly off the Train
He wasn't hanging around. Love the sound of the horn.
Great locations brother!!!