im riding a 25 year old steel 6 speed road bike...have no idea how modern carbon bikes "feel" the road...glad to see there are still so many steel bike lovers here...you all gave me such encouragements.
I am riding a 33 years old Giant steel bike and have 2 almost 40 years old Koga-Miyata steel bikes (Tange Tubing). All my steel bikes are in a perfect condition. The Dutch get rid of them in masses and buy eBikes or carbon bikes. The Poles buy, repair and ride them. But even in Poland three are not so many people who know how to fix a bike properly.
I had a Schwinn le tour 74 loved it. I just didn't like the 5 speed couldn't dial in the right gear. It was a challenge to ride. I found myself thinking if this thing had a 7 speed mega range with alloy wheels it would be unbeatably fast By far it was the most comfortable bike I've ever owned 😊😊 I have trek 730 steel alloy combo with a biopace triple. Along with friction shifter. An unbeatable setup. The bike is comfortable, fast and flexible. I can put 23s all the way up to 38s tires on it
When I first got into cycling [n the mid-80's] beautiful framesets like this were the 'norm' - Battaglin, Ciocc, Basso, Gios, DeRosa, Colnago, Tommasini etc etc. Hand made by craftsmen using the best materials. Invariably, they were all equipped with Campagnolo and were what most 'serious' cyclists aspired to own. I bought a gorgeous white Gazelle 'Champion Mondial' - a lovely little bike that I rode and raced for many years. It never let me down and was my pride and joy. It had a '6-speed block' 52-49 crankset and Mavic wheels. Today, you pay an absolute fortune for some generic looking mass-produced carbon frame, fitted with componentry that lasts about as long as a puff of wind and becomes virtually obsolete after just one year due to the warp speed introduction of new 'developments'. I miss my old Gazelle.
I found a Rossin a couple years back, bought it and haven’t touched my carbon Tarmac ever since. The Tarmac is now on the shopping block. Steal is real 🤘🏻
Since the 90s I've had 2 custom steel bikes made for me by a local builder. My son now rides my older model complete with a 7 speed freewheel. He tells me he gets compliments all the time. If it is an option for you, find a local builder, then customize your dream bike with paint scheme, geometry, and component selection. My builder even built my wheels and will true them for life. You will never forget it.
Grazie! Proprio così, si guarda al meglio del passato con il meglio di ciò che ci offre il presente. È la nostra identità come brand di biciclette fondato da un vero vincitore di Grand Tour 🇮🇹
I'm an aspiring frame builder and found this video to be very informative. Those old style chromoly frames are all I ride and usually with old components. The result is usually what we call a "Frankenbike" here. The performance is okay as long as you're not looking to win races. Once you start building bikes though, there is always another thing you'll want to try. Thanks for this video.
Nothing is more beautiful than a finely crafted steel frame with a heritage….. one of my best bikes is a Rolan Della Santa SLX, team bike for Rebook/Plymouth team from the 80s. How much more exotic can you get with a Classic builders frame on Mavic components?
Alex, I love these videos and that you think the deep wheels "look Bas Ass"! All the Best Wishes to all the Officina Battaglin family, Stay Healthy. Ciao!
Thanks for replying. I want to build a commuter to be used on paths which are partly concrete and partly gravel with little slippery nature during rainy season. I will preferably go for still frame. Can you please suggest me which will be the right option among chromoly, reynold and Columbus for moderate user like me. Also please guide me about the colour options as I love red and yellow. Your bicycle colours are awesome. What other types of colouring there maybe except chrome? Thanks.
I have a Raleigh Randonneur frame and fork that is getting on for 25 years old. It is what is called a "Diver's Helmet" frame. It is currently running Shimano 105 5800 11 speed drivetrain with V-Brakes. The critical dimensions of bike frames, for the most part, haven't changed for longer than 25 years. The rear drop outs are 130 mm, the fronts are 100 mm and the bottom bracket shell is 68 mm. I could put just about any of today's modern components on it. If you see an old steel frame for sale don't discard it as being no good thinking parts won't fit, they will.
Thank you for this very useful info. I have got a blue Pinarello Sestriere and I just mounted a pair of 700x28 c conti's and still have room. Love the mix of an old frame and new components.
Your video! THE inspiration!! Down in the basement, I have an early-80s Bob Jackson (Reynolds, English) frame with a 2x5 Sugino/Shimano set-up and Zeus brakes: that was all I could afford back then -- or rather more, actually. Then, I lived in flat, flat Hamburg; now, I'm in Switzerland: somewhat hillier. And while I did ride my Lovely on Alpen Brevets many years ago (4 passes, 5000 m of up) I don't think I'll be repeating that feat anytime soon. So, what to do? Restore it to original and hang it on the wall? Thanks to your video, I don't think so! No! Monday will see me down at the bike shop, pricing a SRAM drive train and a new wheelset!
I couldn't agree more. Classic looks and vintage design with modern style. Love it. I went this direction with my classic Fondriest X-Tatus Steel Frame
Every bike frame belongs to its own time, for me,I would have liked to see that beautiful Marosticana built with components from its time... and in the same way I would have liked to see those wheels and that groupset on a modern frame.
I want a Peugeot so badly. I only learnt to ride a bike last year and I've had quite a few mountain bikes but I'd absolutely adore a Peugeot carbolite. And modernize it so I can ride it through the rest of my life. :)
Wonderful video and great presentation style. I am currently riding a (US) store-bought carbon fiber bike that performs flawlessly, but I find these classic thin steel Italian frames irresistible, and my next bike will be one like these.
Thanks for the advice sir, I'm currently assembling a Classic Road bike with modern components, metallic or candy color for the frame is really a badass
I'm not sure if you can buy a top level (or even mid level) Group with rim brakes anymore. You probably will have to buy a used group, if you want to build up a frame. I have two steel bikes, that I bought new. One is a 1995 Bianchi TSX, built in their Racing Department Back in the 90's, I raced on it for 3 years, with Campy Chorus, 8 speed. It is now fitted out with Shimano 7700 Dura Ace, 9 speed. The other steel bike was custom made in the US Waterford factory. It was built with True Temper OX Plat, and 753. It was built in 2002, and I raced it until 2017, with Shimano 7800 Dura Ace 10 speed. I still ride it now. Just about all frames built after 1988 were built with 130mm rear spacing. 126mm steel frames can be easily respaced to 130mm.
My friend rode a Scapin, SLX, FAST bike. I had Rossin Record SL TUBED. I SOLD it but bought a used Casati Ellise, awesome bikes.,.I will say I have gotten into the Trek 930, 970,and rebuilt them,, made in USA and like the wide tires and rack mount, great trail and commuters
@@recyclespinning9839 I too had the Trek 930 with triple butted steel tubing it was nice but too small for me. I just bought a Columbus EL-OS steel mountain bike frame and it's insanely light hope it can stand my weight
I love my steel bikes. I still race masters on my Columbus SLX frame with complete Suntour Superbe Pro groupset and singles ( tubular tyres). My other bike is an Ishiwata 019 tubeset steel frame built by Kuwahara, with complete Suntour Superbe Pro group set with high pressure tyres. I love riding both of these bikes and would not consider a carbon frame. The Ishiwata framed bike I have owned since new, I purchased in 1983/4 I have never ridden an aluminium or carbon frame. Its Cro-Mo for me. They never fail to get complimented. Class never goes out of style.
Steel is real. I ride a 1998 Vetta made of Dedacciai DR Zero Uno with Dura Ace 7800 and Cosmic Carbone. I also have a Pinarello Stelvio made of Dedacciai Zero 18MCDV6 it will be fitted with Mavic Cosmic Pro and Dura Ace 7800. The Rossin presented here is fabulous, great lug work and fantastic polish. I still have my very first race bike a 1993 Peugeot Prestige made of Reynolds 708 with SL 7900 shifting levers on the frame. I rode many carbon bikes but it is like riding on a piece of wood and titanium isn't stiff enough for me.
Hi! Very beautiful bike! Unfortunately Campagnolo doesn't produce the Athena anymore. I think an Athena groupset in silver would be perfect for this bike. I saw a Nuovo Classico from DeRosa with this groupset. Spectacular!
I put 11-speed Athena in silver on my vintage Zullo and Pinarello Montello, love it. For my vintage Tesch, I chose to go the carbon route and installed a mix of 11-speed Record with 12-speed Super Record brakes and front derailleur. In the meantime, I've managed to find a nice vintage Picchio Special that I am restoring with new paint and chrome. I'll be transferring the 11-speed Record controllers and rear derailleur from the Tesch and then the rest will be silver 11-speed Athena. The Tesch will get rebuilt with 12-speed Super Record controllers and rear derailleur.
Fantastic video and a very beautiful bike. I’ve been riding steel now for 15 years, stainless also. I feel that I need to add one of these beauties to my collection. ❤️🚴🏼
Wow, lush looking bikes. Campag EPS is right up there, top of the line group, however, their new 4 arm cranks design looks very ugly when fitted to classic frames, I wish they've sticked to the Record 11 speed 5 arm cranks, now those are classic cranks that will never go out of style. Keep up the good work 👍
The great thing about building a custom frame is that you're in charge of the project. And you can design it to fit the components you prefer. Even older versions. Thanks for the feedback!
Hello Alex, since a few days I am a proud owner of a Battaglin frame made with Oria 7020 Alloy tubing. This Frame is from 1997 and and looks still very good, but there are some marks and damages in the Painting. Now my problem is to find the perfect color to repair this beauty. So i would be very thankful for your help. Best regards Benjamin
For a classic bike, I would prefer going with the Campagnolo Potenza silver group over something in black. The performance/weight difference is negligible. The problem I had was finding a modern wheelset in silver. I believe it will come back with some time.
Steel frame along with a carbon fork. With alloy rims, ( 20 spokes front 24 rear) rim brakes, with Victorria corsa 25 c tires. Can fit 28 possible 30 zaffirro for light gravel My dream bike 😊
I have a lugged Columbus max road frame with Battaglin dropouts, brake bridge, and OSMax fork, and the 3 color fill braze on at the top tube. Serial 3699, size 58. It’s had an unfortunate respray and no decals . Is there any information you can tell me about this frame from factory, such as year and original paint scheme? Great video…there are so many well built steel frames out there with great handling and comfort. Nothing floats like a proper steel fork!
Love it! This might be a stupid question but is it possible to convert a threadless stem into a threaded stem? I don't like the look of the more modern threadless stem. I like the traditional look of a threaded quill stem instead.
I do have a huge passion for old road racing bicycles from 1960s to 1990s but I don't see myself enjoying them with modern parts, I like to keep them all original... that's just me
Yes, but the one single factor that has the most impact on your comfort in the saddle is the frame geometry. When a frame is designed from scratch to your body measurements, you won't feel the need to run wider tires!
@@OfficinaBattaglin Sembra che tu sia un testardo della vecchia scuola che vende troppo il suo prodotto. Diversi buoni studi recenti mostrano che i pneumatici da 28 mm hanno una migliore efficienza di rotolamento, comfort e aderenza rispetto a 25 mm indipendentemente dal telaio, quindi piacciono ai professionisti. Guido un telaio in acciaio fatto a mano di alta qualità, senza dubbio buono come il tuo, e preferisco di gran lunga i 28 ai 25, anche se la bici è un'ottima macchina anche sui 23.
@@OfficinaBattaglin e come i professionisti, utilizzo una configurazione tubeless con una pressione inferiore. Ogni elemento contribuisce con i suoi aspetti molto importanti alla qualità della guida di una bicicletta (comfort, efficienza e sicurezza): la geometria del telaio e la qualità costruttiva, le ruote, la configurazione dei pneumatici, la larghezza, la qualità e la pressione dei pneumatici.
Hi! Your bikes are truly beautiful and I utterly love the combination of classic, time tested steel design and modern, forward facing modern tech. Also your paint work is gorgeous. I'm currently saving to soon be able to place a order. However, I do have one concern - DIY maintenance. Your bikes are of course expensive, but like buying titanium, you spend the extra money for the security that your bike will live along side you for many years. However, with steel I worry about corrosion. As someone who has never owned a high end steel road bike, can I ask, if I look after, clean and maintain my steel frame, how long can I expect it to last? For example (I live in the rainy UK), do I have to worry about riding in the rain? Would I require 'servicing' every season by a professional to maintain my bike, or would it be possible at home DIY? Internal frame corrosion protection? I'm a decent and enthusiastic amateur mechanic Sorry to ask these boring maintenance questions, but when buying a Battaglin bike, you wanna know it'll grow old with you. Thank you so much!
If you look after, clean and maintain your steel frame the right way (which means washing it using only water, and not aggressive detergents like those you would use on a car) you can expect the paint or the cromovelato finish to last for a lifetime! You should really take a look at the Battaglin cromovelato steel frames made in the 80s, they are still pristine!
I bought my first steel road bike and 1972. It's an Italian steel road bike with Columbus tubing and I still have it. It rides beautifully. I've lost a little flexibility so it doesn't fit me quite as well as it used to. I'm on my third set of wheels, but the frame works just fine. Every 10 years you pour in the anti-corrosion stuff into your frame and spin your frame around. You pour it into the seat tube and then put the seatpost back into the frame after you've emptied out the excess. I would certainly do it before you build up the bike. Having said that, I owned the bike for 20 years before I ever did that because they hadn't invented it to the best of my knowledge.
Good day. I apollogize for my bad english. I'm trying to restore/upgrade my grandfather's bycicle from 1960 (I don't know if "Royal bycicle" is it's brand or model), but I don't know which rear derrailleur to use, as it has a dedicated section right behid the wheel mounting. The mechanic says that modern ones won't fit it, but he himself admit's he does not know much about classic frames. At the moment, it has an 8 speed free wheel. I thank you in advance for your advice.
As I explained in the video, the first thing is to make sure that there's enough space between the dropouts to fit the groupset you want to assemble your frame with.
Hey! great video as I am interested in looking into doing some modifications to my 1986 triple-butted fuji club sport. I was wondering How hard it would be to get modern-day brifters to swap from the downtube shifters. Also, do you recommend upgrading rims other than carbon? something more affordable. Thank you!
This sounds like something nice to do, as I love the classic look, but wouldn't it be a problem if you have a mid to late70s French Bike, specifically a Peugeot?
Not really. You have to spread the chainstays to fit the 130mm rear hub. And you might have to change the bottom bracket too, but there's parts available for that.
Question: will new modern bottom brackets fit my steel frame made in 1987? It currently has original suntour surpurb pro componentry. Thanks for video!
@daAnder71 thanks for that, yes will definitely change the cranks, always remember hills sucked with 53/42 chain rings and a 7speed cassette with a granny gear of 21 teeth {only used when riding on you're own and not in a group!} cheers
I have a custombuilt (taylormade) steel 531 Reynolds Bob Jackson 1985 equiped with Campa Nuovo Record painted in deep yellow and gold lining . So comfortable compared to my carbon bike .
0:30 1:17 upgraded rear cassette.... 1:33 front chainring seems smaller than original. Should've stayed 55T 2:11 use to be gear shifters 4:01 4:40 nice seat post
Hi there. Nice video. Very educating. I'm riding a Bianchi 928L B4P (2007) with DA (7800) I also have a Concorde 340 Mistral aluminum with carbon fork with Mirage 9 speed on it. I will or planning to make this Concorde a backup bike, to use during rainy days to spare my Bianchi. Just going to swap the 7800 outer cable shifters to a more modern Ultegra 6700 inner shifters, with of course front and rear derailleurs. My question is, Can I fit the 10 speed DA on the Concorde 340 Mistral, without any problems? Thanks in advance
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im riding a 25 year old steel 6 speed road bike...have no idea how modern carbon bikes "feel" the road...glad to see there are still so many steel bike lovers here...you all gave me such encouragements.
Glad this video motivates you in riding steel with even more enthusiasm. Thanks for dropping by!
I am riding a 33 years old Giant steel bike and have 2 almost 40 years old Koga-Miyata steel bikes (Tange Tubing). All my steel bikes are in a perfect condition. The Dutch get rid of them in masses and buy eBikes or carbon bikes. The Poles buy, repair and ride them. But even in Poland three are not so many people who know how to fix a bike properly.
I had a Schwinn le tour 74 loved it. I just didn't like the 5 speed couldn't dial in the right gear.
It was a challenge to ride. I found myself thinking if this thing had a 7 speed mega range with alloy wheels it would be unbeatably fast
By far it was the most comfortable bike I've ever owned 😊😊
I have trek 730 steel alloy combo with a biopace triple. Along with friction shifter. An unbeatable setup.
The bike is comfortable, fast and flexible. I can put 23s all the way up to 38s tires on it
When I first got into cycling [n the mid-80's] beautiful framesets like this were the 'norm' - Battaglin, Ciocc, Basso, Gios, DeRosa, Colnago, Tommasini etc etc. Hand made by craftsmen using the best materials. Invariably, they were all equipped with Campagnolo and were what most 'serious' cyclists aspired to own.
I bought a gorgeous white Gazelle 'Champion Mondial' - a lovely little bike that I rode and raced for many years. It never let me down and was my pride and joy. It had a '6-speed block' 52-49 crankset and Mavic wheels.
Today, you pay an absolute fortune for some generic looking mass-produced carbon frame, fitted with componentry that lasts about as long as a puff of wind and becomes virtually obsolete after just one year due to the warp speed introduction of new 'developments'. I miss my old Gazelle.
I found a Rossin a couple years back, bought it and haven’t touched my carbon Tarmac ever since. The Tarmac is now on the shopping block. Steal is real 🤘🏻
Since the 90s I've had 2 custom steel bikes made for me by a local builder. My son now rides my older model complete with a 7 speed freewheel. He tells me he gets compliments all the time. If it is an option for you, find a local builder, then customize your dream bike with paint scheme, geometry, and component selection. My builder even built my wheels and will true them for life. You will never forget it.
Bellissima!!!!ritorno al passato con materiali al top
Grazie! Proprio così, si guarda al meglio del passato con il meglio di ciò che ci offre il presente. È la nostra identità come brand di biciclette fondato da un vero vincitore di Grand Tour 🇮🇹
A nice reminder of the beauty of a classic steel frame. I've tried carbon fibre, but prefer steel for its lively 'feel'.
Hey Eric, steel's unique road feel is the reason why our customers end up ditching their carbon bikes 🇮🇹
Great video, your bike is a work of art.
Cheers to all of us out there with low end survivors in our garage that will mainly get whatever parts we can find on Amazon.
I'm an aspiring frame builder and found this video to be very informative. Those old style chromoly frames are all I ride and usually with old components. The result is usually what we call a "Frankenbike" here. The performance is okay as long as you're not looking to win races. Once you start building bikes though, there is always another thing you'll want to try. Thanks for this video.
Thanks Jorg for your feedback! Good luck with your frame building career 🇮🇹
Super video and absolutely beautiful Marosticana Battaglin and frameset colour,Campagnolo Record suit's this Battaglin model the best.💯👌🏻🚴
Nothing is more beautiful than a finely crafted steel frame with a heritage….. one of my best bikes is a Rolan Della Santa SLX, team bike for Rebook/Plymouth team from the 80s. How much more exotic can you get with a Classic builders frame on Mavic components?
Absolutely beautiful bike!
Thanks!🇮🇹
What a gorgeous bit of kit
Great bikes I have 3 vintage steel bikes
I love the classic looking with lugs on the steel frame. ❤👍
Lugs represent the Italian framebuilding tradition 🇮🇹
Alex, I love these videos and that you think the deep wheels "look Bas Ass"!
All the Best Wishes to all the Officina Battaglin family, Stay Healthy. Ciao!
Thanks a lot JT!
Thanks for replying. I want to build a commuter to be used on paths which are partly concrete and partly gravel with little slippery nature during rainy season. I will preferably go for still frame. Can you please suggest me which will be the right option among chromoly, reynold and Columbus for moderate user like me. Also please guide me about the colour options as I love red and yellow. Your bicycle colours are awesome. What other types of colouring there maybe except chrome? Thanks.
Alex, what's the depth of these wheels?
Love it - nothing like a truely Italian Build - timeless!
Completely agree 🇮🇹
That bike is soooooo sooo good looking!!
Thank you! Have you had a chance to check out also our other classic-looking frames?🇮🇹
Wow! That's a really beautiful frame! Would absolutely love to ride that bike (but smaller, 49cm, lol) .
Amen to that brother, I LOVE the look of an old frame combined with new componetry. Steel all the way until I hit the dirts folks.🚴♂️
Ive just got a Faggin made up for myself with Compagnolo record 12
That bike is beautiful and badass!
Thank you! 🇮🇹
Highly informative and recommendation. I salute you ! Thanks
Beautiful art of steel. To have such a bicycle. ❤️
Thanks!🇮🇹
This thing is life changing
I have a Raleigh Randonneur frame and fork that is getting on for 25 years old.
It is what is called a "Diver's Helmet" frame.
It is currently running Shimano 105 5800 11 speed drivetrain with V-Brakes.
The critical dimensions of bike frames, for the most part, haven't changed for longer than 25 years.
The rear drop outs are 130 mm, the fronts are 100 mm and the bottom bracket shell is 68 mm.
I could put just about any of today's modern components on it.
If you see an old steel frame for sale don't discard it as being no good thinking parts won't fit, they will.
Thank you for this very useful info. I have got a blue Pinarello Sestriere and I just mounted a pair of 700x28 c conti's and still have room. Love the mix of an old frame and new components.
We love it too! Thanks for sharing your project, we're glad you found the information useful. Greetings from Italy!🇮🇹
I just drooled all over my desk and my work partner is looking at me like I had a stroke!
Your video! THE inspiration!! Down in the basement, I have an early-80s Bob Jackson (Reynolds, English) frame with a 2x5 Sugino/Shimano set-up and Zeus brakes: that was all I could afford back then -- or rather more, actually. Then, I lived in flat, flat Hamburg; now, I'm in Switzerland: somewhat hillier. And while I did ride my Lovely on Alpen Brevets many years ago (4 passes, 5000 m of up) I don't think I'll be repeating that feat anytime soon. So, what to do? Restore it to original and hang it on the wall? Thanks to your video, I don't think so! No! Monday will see me down at the bike shop, pricing a SRAM drive train and a new wheelset!
RetroMod time!!
I like the classic frame. For me, it’s the pinnacle of what a sport bike should look like..
I couldn't agree more. Classic looks and vintage design with modern style. Love it. I went this direction with my classic Fondriest X-Tatus Steel Frame
Every bike frame belongs to its own time, for me,I would have liked to see that beautiful Marosticana built with components from its time... and in the same way I would have liked to see those wheels and that groupset on a modern frame.
An efficient POWERFUL badass machine.
That leaves me out. My Italian steel frame was hand made in Mississippi.
Love the columbus tubing.
I want a Peugeot so badly. I only learnt to ride a bike last year and I've had quite a few mountain bikes but I'd absolutely adore a Peugeot carbolite. And modernize it so I can ride it through the rest of my life. :)
Tanta roba ragazzi , top sul top 🚴💨💨💨🇮🇹
Grazie mille! 🇮🇹
I LOVE the bike in the video, it is so beautiful.
Thank you 🇮🇹
Wonderful video and great presentation style. I am currently riding a (US) store-bought carbon fiber bike that performs flawlessly, but I find these classic thin steel Italian frames irresistible, and my next bike will be one like these.
Thanks a lot! Looking forward to building your custom Italian beauty 🇮🇹
Another great informative video Alex! Hope you and your family/co-workers are all doing well!
Hi Bryan, glad you like the video! We are all fine. Trying to make the best of this lockdown by sharing new content!
Wow the frame was so sick!
Thanks a lot!🇮🇹
Amazing explenation Alex.Bravo.
Thank you! Glad that you found it useful.
This type of bikeframe suits me best!
It’s a frame that every cyclist should add to their collection!🇮🇹
This build does look absolutely amazing!
Thanks a lot!
Got one and i love it!!!!
Great vid Alex! Hope the Battaglin family is doing well.
Hi Tim, we are all fine. Thank you for your support!
Thanks for the advice sir, I'm currently assembling a Classic Road bike with modern components, metallic or candy color for the frame is really a badass
Glad to hear the video was useful! Good luck with your project 🇮🇹
Another great video. Glad to see you're still able to do these. You brought up some important points here. Thank you!
Thank you, Lance! We' trying to make this lockdown more enjoyable for all our friends & fans all over the world. Stay tuned for more videos!
Im in loveeeee its so beautiful. I love red bikes but this blue is too clean
Thanks! If you love red bikes, you should check this out ==> officinabattaglin.com/testimonials/first-ride-portofino-so-comfortable/
bravo !! i love it in red candy !!
I'm not sure if you can buy a top level (or even mid level) Group with rim brakes anymore. You probably will have to buy a used group, if you want to build up a frame. I have two steel bikes, that I bought new. One is a 1995 Bianchi TSX, built in their Racing Department Back in the 90's, I raced on it for 3 years, with Campy Chorus, 8 speed. It is now fitted out with Shimano 7700 Dura Ace, 9 speed. The other steel bike was custom made in the US Waterford factory. It was built with True Temper OX Plat, and 753. It was built in 2002, and I raced it until 2017, with Shimano 7800 Dura Ace 10 speed. I still ride it now. Just about all frames built after 1988 were built with 130mm rear spacing. 126mm steel frames can be easily respaced to 130mm.
Looks amazing
Thanks Eric!
I love steel frames and wished I had kept my old steel Scapin bicycle from the 80s. It had an amazing ride quality with Columbus SLX tubing
My friend rode a Scapin, SLX, FAST bike. I had Rossin Record SL TUBED.
I SOLD it but bought a used Casati Ellise, awesome bikes.,.I will say I have gotten into the Trek 930, 970,and rebuilt them,, made in USA and like the wide tires and rack mount, great trail and commuters
@@recyclespinning9839 I too had the Trek 930 with triple butted steel tubing it was nice but too small for me. I just bought a Columbus EL-OS steel mountain bike frame and it's insanely light hope it can stand my weight
I love my steel bikes. I still race masters on my Columbus SLX frame with complete Suntour Superbe Pro groupset and singles ( tubular tyres). My other bike is an Ishiwata 019 tubeset steel frame built by Kuwahara, with complete Suntour Superbe Pro group set with high pressure tyres. I love riding both of these bikes and would not consider a carbon frame. The Ishiwata framed bike I have owned since new, I purchased in 1983/4 I have never ridden an aluminium or carbon frame. Its Cro-Mo for me. They never fail to get complimented. Class never goes out of style.
@@crockette.t7977 I had the same groupset with Suntour. The components back then were works of art
Força, Itália!
Obrigado! 🇮🇹
Steel is real. I ride a 1998 Vetta made of Dedacciai DR Zero Uno with Dura Ace 7800 and Cosmic Carbone. I also have a Pinarello Stelvio made of Dedacciai Zero 18MCDV6 it will be fitted with Mavic Cosmic Pro and Dura Ace 7800. The Rossin presented here is fabulous, great lug work and fantastic polish. I still have my very first race bike a 1993 Peugeot Prestige made of Reynolds 708 with SL 7900 shifting levers on the frame. I rode many carbon bikes but it is like riding on a piece of wood and titanium isn't stiff enough for me.
Sorry but the bike presented here is not a Rossin 😅 It's a Battaglin Marosticana 🇮🇹
Mine is also steelframe.i love upgrading little by little.thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
A coupling between thin steel frames and cutting edge tyres, components seems to be the most beautiful visually ateast.
Bravo,,, bravo, hermosos de verdad definitivamente los mejores cuadros artísticos unas verdaderas obras de arte ,, felicidades Columbus live forever
Muchas gracias!
Very informative, great video.
Thanks Bernard! Glad you found it useful 🇮🇹
Hi! Very beautiful bike! Unfortunately Campagnolo doesn't produce the Athena anymore. I think an Athena groupset in silver would be perfect for this bike. I saw a Nuovo Classico from DeRosa with this groupset. Spectacular!
Campagnolo's Centaur group is available in silver alloy. You are right, it would look absolutely wonderful on this frame.
I put 11-speed Athena in silver on my vintage Zullo and Pinarello Montello, love it. For my vintage Tesch, I chose to go the carbon route and installed a mix of 11-speed Record with 12-speed Super Record brakes and front derailleur. In the meantime, I've managed to find a nice vintage Picchio Special that I am restoring with new paint and chrome. I'll be transferring the 11-speed Record controllers and rear derailleur from the Tesch and then the rest will be silver 11-speed Athena. The Tesch will get rebuilt with 12-speed Super Record controllers and rear derailleur.
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Obrigado!
great video, sir
I modernized a 1981 Richard Sachs with Campanoglo Record Groupon, but I never found a 27.2 carbon seat tube, and kept the quill stem.
I would not want a black seat post right now. Deda Elementi Superzero Seatpost for $100 seems to be the option.
... Record group* - Never trust your auto-complete.
Fantastic video and a very beautiful bike. I’ve been riding steel now for 15 years, stainless also. I feel that I need to add one of these beauties to my collection. ❤️🚴🏼
Thank you very much! Feel free to enquire about a custom-built classic frame at www.callofficinabattaglin.com
I love the Intro💕
Thanks!
Another awesome video, hope you keep doing then. Hope you all the best.
Thank you! Yes, we have another video coming out by the end of this week 😎Make sure you've subscribed to our email list as well!
Thank you very much
I intend for my 1987 World Champion Roche replica (built around 1988 with full C Record Delta) to have a new room mate to keep it company soon.
Looking forward to building it for you!
Great video Alex! Covers all of the points we have discussed during the process of building my Marosticana.
Thank you, Lynn! Our custom builds and the conversations with the Battaglin owners are great sources of inspiration for our videos 🇮🇹
Wow, lush looking bikes. Campag EPS is right up there, top of the line group, however, their new 4 arm cranks design looks very ugly when fitted to classic frames, I wish they've sticked to the Record 11 speed 5 arm cranks, now those are classic cranks that will never go out of style. Keep up the good work 👍
The great thing about building a custom frame is that you're in charge of the project. And you can design it to fit the components you prefer. Even older versions. Thanks for the feedback!
Hello Alex, since a few days I am a proud owner of a Battaglin frame made with Oria 7020 Alloy tubing. This Frame is from 1997 and and looks still very good, but there are some marks and damages in the Painting. Now my problem is to find the perfect color to repair this beauty. So i would be very thankful for your help.
Best regards
Benjamin
Hi Benjamin, how can we help you?
@@OfficinaBattaglin not anymore. yesterday i got my frame back from a special paint shop, they remixed the paint and repaired any cracks and scratches
@@bellerophon0488 Great! That was the right thing to do. Enjoy your Battaglin bike!
Stunning bike one day I’ll upgrade to one of these
We look forward to building one for you 🇮🇹
For a classic bike, I would prefer going with the Campagnolo Potenza silver group over something in black. The performance/weight difference is negligible. The problem I had was finding a modern wheelset in silver. I believe it will come back with some time.
The Campagnolo Potenza was a great choice for giving the bike a classic look and modern performance. Unfortunately, it's out of production.
Officina Battaglin Oh, nothing left in silver. Thank you for the update.
Campagnolo really needs to bring back a polished silver gruppo and wheelset!
I have a90’s carrera and love it veloce and a carbon post 😎
Hi Alex, what you think would be the best tyre size for commuting in country side and occasionally slippery roads?
It depends on the frame and on the wheels you want to use. Can you give me some more details about them?
An italian saying badass 😂😁 priceless
It did not dissapoint
Does that mean having a good command of the English language?
@@OfficinaBattaglin its actually charming
@@OfficinaBattaglin Badass priceless is a compliment. Young people's speech.
Steel frame along with a carbon fork. With alloy rims, ( 20 spokes front 24 rear) rim brakes, with Victorria corsa 25 c tires.
Can fit 28 possible 30 zaffirro for light gravel
My dream bike 😊
Very nice bike, anyway is it possible a classic frame using integrated carbon bar?
I have a lugged Columbus max road frame with Battaglin dropouts, brake bridge, and OSMax fork, and the 3 color fill braze on at the top tube. Serial 3699, size 58. It’s had an unfortunate respray and no decals . Is there any information you can tell me about this frame from factory, such as year and original paint scheme?
Great video…there are so many well built steel frames out there with great handling and comfort. Nothing floats like a proper steel fork!
Awesome video.
One question would a carbon seat post and carbon wheels on a steel framebbe suited for a heavier rider, i weigh 120kg 189cm
Thanks Ricardo! Carbon wheels come with a rider weight limit, so you should make sure to follow the manufacturer's recommendations.
Love it! This might be a stupid question but is it possible to convert a threadless stem into a threaded stem? I don't like the look of the more modern threadless stem. I like the traditional look of a threaded quill stem instead.
Unfortunately, it's not possible. You should substitute the threadless fork with a threaded one!
Nice bike, Eric! Very inspiring video :) By the way, what's the weight of that bike?
Thanks for video
I have 1977 Columbia bike made in USA I want to put carbon rims and modern components
I do have a huge passion for old road racing bicycles from 1960s to 1990s but I don't see myself enjoying them with modern parts, I like to keep them all original... that's just me
And that's ok!
I ride 28 mm tyres on my classic hand-made steel bike from the 70s. Much nicer ride than 25 mm. Can you do frames that take 28 mm or more?
Yes, but the one single factor that has the most impact on your comfort in the saddle is the frame geometry. When a frame is designed from scratch to your body measurements, you won't feel the need to run wider tires!
@@OfficinaBattaglin Sembra che tu sia un testardo della vecchia scuola che vende troppo il suo prodotto. Diversi buoni studi recenti mostrano che i pneumatici da 28 mm hanno una migliore efficienza di rotolamento, comfort e aderenza rispetto a 25 mm indipendentemente dal telaio, quindi piacciono ai professionisti. Guido un telaio in acciaio fatto a mano di alta qualità, senza dubbio buono come il tuo, e preferisco di gran lunga i 28 ai 25, anche se la bici è un'ottima macchina anche sui 23.
@@OfficinaBattaglin e come i professionisti, utilizzo una configurazione tubeless con una pressione inferiore. Ogni elemento contribuisce con i suoi aspetti molto importanti alla qualità della guida di una bicicletta (comfort, efficienza e sicurezza): la geometria del telaio e la qualità costruttiva, le ruote, la configurazione dei pneumatici, la larghezza, la qualità e la pressione dei pneumatici.
Hi! Your bikes are truly beautiful and I utterly love the combination of classic, time tested steel design and modern, forward facing modern tech. Also your paint work is gorgeous.
I'm currently saving to soon be able to place a order.
However, I do have one concern - DIY maintenance. Your bikes are of course expensive, but like buying titanium, you spend the extra money for the security that your bike will live along side you for many years. However, with steel I worry about corrosion. As someone who has never owned a high end steel road bike, can I ask, if I look after, clean and maintain my steel frame, how long can I expect it to last? For example (I live in the rainy UK), do I have to worry about riding in the rain? Would I require 'servicing' every season by a professional to maintain my bike, or would it be possible at home DIY? Internal frame corrosion protection? I'm a decent and enthusiastic amateur mechanic
Sorry to ask these boring maintenance questions, but when buying a Battaglin bike, you wanna know it'll grow old with you.
Thank you so much!
If you look after, clean and maintain your steel frame the right way (which means washing it using only water, and not aggressive detergents like those you would use on a car) you can expect the paint or the cromovelato finish to last for a lifetime! You should really take a look at the Battaglin cromovelato steel frames made in the 80s, they are still pristine!
I bought my first steel road bike and 1972. It's an Italian steel road bike with Columbus tubing and I still have it. It rides beautifully. I've lost a little flexibility so it doesn't fit me quite as well as it used to. I'm on my third set of wheels, but the frame works just fine. Every 10 years you pour in the anti-corrosion stuff into your frame and spin your frame around. You pour it into the seat tube and then put the seatpost back into the frame after you've emptied out the excess. I would certainly do it before you build up the bike. Having said that, I owned the bike for 20 years before I ever did that because they hadn't invented it to the best of my knowledge.
Good day. I apollogize for my bad english. I'm trying to restore/upgrade my grandfather's bycicle from 1960 (I don't know if "Royal bycicle" is it's brand or model), but I don't know which rear derrailleur to use, as it has a dedicated section right behid the wheel mounting. The mechanic says that modern ones won't fit it, but he himself admit's he does not know much about classic frames. At the moment, it has an 8 speed free wheel.
I thank you in advance for your advice.
thank you sir!!!!!
Thank you!🇮🇹
Hello, I have a vintage Concorde from the late 80's can I convert from my manual campy super record shifters to a more modern type?
Which groupset would that be exactly?
As I explained in the video, the first thing is to make sure that there's enough space between the dropouts to fit the groupset you want to assemble your frame with.
Officina Battaglin thank you for the response
I still use steel frame road bike. Still use downtube shifter
Hey! great video as I am interested in looking into doing some modifications to my 1986 triple-butted fuji club sport. I was wondering How hard it would be to get modern-day brifters to swap from the downtube shifters. Also, do you recommend upgrading rims other than carbon? something more affordable. Thank you!
I have a" Tange"double butted cromoly tubing 1989 any suggestion how to attain a vantage look in a modern components.
We have the same style 😍
These bikes look and ride great 🇮🇹
This sounds like something nice to do, as I love the classic look, but wouldn't it be a problem if you have a mid to late70s French Bike, specifically a Peugeot?
Not really. You have to spread the chainstays to fit the 130mm rear hub. And you might have to change the bottom bracket too, but there's parts available for that.
The Campagnolo Athena groupset in silver would suit this bike much better
@daAnder71 Athena went out of production 5 years ago. The new Potenza groupset is also nice. But the Athena chainset has the classic look.
Question: will new modern bottom brackets fit my steel frame made in 1987? It currently has original suntour surpurb pro componentry. Thanks for video!
@daAnder71 thanks for that, yes will definitely change the cranks, always remember hills sucked with 53/42 chain rings and a 7speed cassette with a granny gear of 21 teeth {only used when riding on you're own and not in a group!} cheers
I have a custombuilt (taylormade) steel 531 Reynolds Bob Jackson 1985 equiped with Campa Nuovo Record painted in deep yellow and gold lining . So comfortable compared to my carbon bike .
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1:17 upgraded rear cassette....
1:33 front chainring seems smaller than original. Should've stayed 55T
2:11 use to be gear shifters
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4:40 nice seat post
Hi there. Nice video. Very educating. I'm riding a Bianchi 928L B4P (2007) with DA (7800) I also have a Concorde 340 Mistral aluminum with carbon fork with Mirage 9 speed on it. I will or planning to make this Concorde a backup bike, to use during rainy days to spare my Bianchi. Just going to swap the 7800 outer cable shifters to a more modern Ultegra 6700 inner shifters, with of course front and rear derailleurs. My question is, Can I fit the 10 speed DA on the Concorde 340 Mistral, without any problems? Thanks in advance
Hi Aldrin, thanks! Unfortunately we can't answer to your question: we would need to take a look at the geometry of your Concorde frame.
Hi Alex can you build all steel classic frame and classic parts video? thanks
Hi JP, thanks for your request, I'll make one video about this topic for sure!
@@OfficinaBattaglin thank you im a fan of your bicycle
Classic steel road bikes look best with Campy's C Record grouppo hand's down (my opinion) .