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What Happened To Plus Sized Tyres? | The Fall And Rise of 27.5+
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 เม.ย. 2020
- It was only a few years ago that mountain bike journalists and brand managers were applauding both the benefits of larger volume 27.5 tyres handily labelled by the industry as PLUS size tyres. So what happened to them? The good old plus? Are they still relevant? And are they still as fast? And what place do they have on bikes?
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I’m still liking my Standard 27.5 although some day I plan on going for almost a plus like 27.5x 2.4 I feel like there to me more agile than my 29r’s!
Hi,
I just got to say I applaud your tech take on tyres and enjoyed the video very much. (I don't have any mtb experience except for my recently bought bike: "cube stereo hybrid 120 race 2019" which has 29" wheels (tubeless) and some 20 years back when I briefly owned a MTB that got nicked too soon).
But the wheel size I ride now felt right from the start. I have ridden it on my local tracks for 2500+km now in the last half year, and I'm getting more and more into it. Even when the pandemic creates this minigame on how to eloquently surpass my newfound fellow members off "the pursuit of forest enlightenment", I still manage to ring my freshly installed (but still very stealthy) bell and drive past them at the distance required to not catch that dreadfull virus that threatens the very core this mockery of humanity stands for.
In short: keep on doing what you do best and I will enjoy and like it.
PS: I like 29" ers best.
Stay safe!
Sean Jones.
2.5 29" Maxxis Shorty's on 30mm I.D. rim with cushcore inserts at 17psi
2.8 and 2.6 are awesome for dry and rocky conditions, less than 2.6 are awesome for muddy conditions. Honestly I use 2.8 all year round and adapt my riding. I still love them, still no punctures, and I ride aggressive downhill, so I think it comes down to my wheight (65kilos) and running tire inserts. Riding smooth (because I rode hardtails for years). I only miss the thinner tires in the mud. But it does add an element of fun and unpredictability when skidding and losing traction. 27+ for life babyyyy
27.5 x 2.6 Minions
These are amazing tyres. I’m not a pro by any means but have had many mtbs over the years. On a trek powerfly 9 they are amazing. They give you a real feeling of confidence on a heavy bike. Will never go back to skinny tyres. Speed doesn’t matter to me and I suspect most riders over 50 years old, or in fact over 40. Thanks for a great video.
Funny thing is they've still been proven to be faster than their skinnier counterparts time and time again.
Getting my dad (48) back into mountain biking after 17 years and strongly recommending 27.5+ for him. Good to hear that my logic was correct.
I'm using 27.5 x 2.8's on an ebike and they are awesome. Very comfortable and great grip.
Seriously I have lost track of all these tire sizes, hub sizes and still riding my 26" and amazingly the bike still rides awesome on the local trails which has not been changed in 30 years
God bless 26inch wheels.... right on. I love my plus size wheels but it enrages me listening to are 27 plus tyres dead....2 years after buying one on the same guys word...he's sponsored so go figure....I love it but .wow..... WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE SPONSOR A MTB LIVING LOVING MAN ..just for wheels n tyres ...I'm poorly with cancer and I'm being taken advantage of by receivers who get free bikes and will say anything to anyone who will listen
It's not even funny anymore
Well yeah it is. Ha ha . Joke is on the guys that ride and need advice. . to be told buy this ...oh no buy that 1...no go this way.. . I still ride a muddy fox on panaracers from 89. It's a laugh. Funnier than the reviews telling us to change wheels and frames every year...which plannet do the hey live on. ...fachists
Yea I've still got a rochopper fsr n a 2007 stumpy that I still ride. My stumpy will pump out 8 more miles in the same time as my big tyre 29er 3nduro bike and I won't be knackered when I get home. 26ers still hold up
I'm still running 2.8's on my ebike and love it :)
I´m finding a new bike. Which bike do you use?
Danilo Tavares i have had quite a few go’s on a kona remote 160 with 2.8 magic marys fromt and rear, great grip but does lower the range a little
Like we can afford new Ebikes every 3rd season....I'm riding.a 27.5 plus cos I read the reviews telling me that it's the dogs nuts ..well it was it is..and I swear.. if it comes to the tyres leaving the shops. I'll hunt them down..... haibikes arnt cheap. Words are cheap too. Reviewers should hold tongue sometimes
@@danilotavares77 ha ha...if you wait another 10mins it'll be different every time.....last word ..2018 haibike nduro xduro 7 Yamaha... derestricted...plus tyres extra battery....46 pounds for 180ml.... Very respectful......if you can find one. No 1 sells em...52 pounds now
I didn't know 27.5 had gone anywhere. I still run 2.8 on my e bike and it's awesome. I do run narrower tyres and wheels if I'm riding mellow trails though.
Nothing happened to + size tyres....currently rocking a 2.8 Eddy current on the front , and a 2.6 magic Mary on the rear ....grip for days
Yorkshire eMTB love my eddies
yep love my +tires
Are you a zombie?
I'm on 2.6 magic Mary's on an XL 27,5 plus haibike nduro xduro7 2018.not sure if the frame is any bigger but it says 27.5plus on the frame..they feel just great. I'm first into a plus size bike .my genius 26 snapped so. I thought I'd meet it halfway to 27.5...im thinking of going bigger?...the wet is eating into my grip ... always predictive in the dry but not so much in wet....any ideas?
@@Calvin_Wright you can recommend Eddie's for the wet?
I'm confused. Everyone I talk to (in the USA, at least), says that the tires were short lived... but Trek Roscoe and Specialized Fuse and Giant Fathom 2 never stopped making this size and are all very popular in my area. Anyone else?
None of them are plus anymore. They’re all 29
27.5+ is more common on hard-tails. but those are all 29er now
Love my 2.8s , didn't think I would. Took a bit of getting used to but now that I am, wouldn't change them.
Still running 2.8s on my Trek Powerfly across the pond. Love the grip and comfort!
2.6" tires used to be called plus sizes but now are regular 27.5 tires since "wide trail tires" like 2.5 have almost become normal spec'd on most stock enduro bikes.
And 2.6 actually measure 2.5 with most tires.
@@derektaylor2845 An important exception is Teravail Tires, their width is very true to size. A 2.5 Ehline dwarfs my 2.6 Rekon.
I bought my Turbo Levo FSR 6Fattie new in 2016 and one of the influencing factors was the Purgatory 3.0" tyres on the Roval Traverse 650b rims. It's the best bike I've ever ridden and it still delivers. I came to my Levo from a 29er Carbon Stumpjumper and I have subsequently had a weekend test of a 2019 spec. Turbo Levo running with the latest 29er wheel set. I can safely say that for the type of moderate riding that I undertake the 3.0" plus size tyres are just about perfect. One of my regular rides includes a long downhill gravel track and the tyres give me all the grip I need, especially now that the trails have finally dried out. There is just something that does it for me with the plus size tyres, although this may have something to do with my days riding motorcycles! Great video and keep them coming.
I run 2.8 Michelin E Wilds front & rear on my Giant Trance E1 Pro. Stock tyres were 2.6 Maxxis Rekon (rear) & DHF (front). The main issue was braking performance of the Rekon! The bike feels amazing now even on loose over hardack. Great point regarding trails you know Steve! I think my + tyres help enormously when I regularly run out of talent on unfamiliar trails..... 😃
I was glad that a Michelin developed a tyre specific for E-mtb's. My Cube reaction Hybrid had 650B Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.6 tyres on delivery but the Michelin E-Wild 2.6 are so much better and stiffer and could hold better grip on steep climbs and corners. To me it seems that Michelin has done its homework and realised that E-mtb's are different beasts wich have more load on the rear wheel that has to be mastered on different terrains to. Using a mix of different compounds do play a big role here as it also runs smoother on the road.
I seem to recall that one of the reasons for the slow adoption of 29” tyres for downhill and enduro was the availability of wider hubs, in order to be able to build a wheel of comparable strength as 27.5”, while still maintaining crank and chainstay clearance.
I still ride the plus size. I love them. What I like is they handle really well in soft, loose or muddy areas. I can play around with the air pressure more for seasonal adaptation. However, with a stronger gyro, they do not corner well but it’s only slightly.
I went with a Maxxis 29X 3.0 with my front wheel on my Turbo Levo Expert. The wheel diameter went to 31" for an outrageously improved angle of attack over rocks and roots, not to mention the added cushion larger volume tires create. I'm running a Maxxis 29 X 2.5 on the rear.
Excellent video. You are getting really good at this.liked the walk around😀
do not forget to divide the displayed wheel height by 2. Measurements must be made when the wheel centers are on the same axle.
So you are saying the change between the 29 and 27.5+ is half what is shown in the video?
26inch. My two xc tyres and tubes are 900 gram. It's a great time to be a 26 er. Lots of good cheap 26 wheels, forks and frames around.
26 is caveman compared to a 29. That's why. The stuff you can roll over is pretty crazy
Hi Steve great video as always looking at changing my front tire on new 2019 Focus jam
Both Front and back tires are maxxis rekon . 2.8 , totally get the plus size tires although I do think the front tire needs to changed to some a little aggressive for trail/enduro style riding
What’s your thoughts and recommendations?
Today has lots of 29ers 2.6 tires. Many brands are sellinng their bikes with these tires ..... and i love it.
I absolutely agree the industry left 27.5 Plus too soon! I hope it comes back because it is by far the best size I have ever ridden!
Just saw your cat.
Reminds me of the old joke: Why did they start using Catseyes as reflectors on bikes?
Because if they used cats arses they need twice as many cats.
I have a beach exploring Ebike 3x27.5 front 4.8x26 rear. Deep loose sand but still steers in rocks
Hey enjoyed all the detail you went into on the vid! My thoughts, owning a 27.5 plus 2018 stumpjumper, and 29+ Jones LWB, are that plus tires really weren't given their fair shake before the marketing gurus turned towards pushing 29. There was an element of ego involved as well - a prevailing sentiment that plus was for giving beginners more confidence. Add to this the fact that UK journalists don't ride a lot of sandy trails where plus tires shine brightest, but they do ride UK poopie mud where skinnier mud tires shine... One other thing, rim width makes a huge difference in how low tire pressure can go without squirm, a 45mm internal width rim allows you to take that micro-suspension to macro levels without squirm.
Running 26X3....I'll get my coat.
Seriously, theyre fine.
Still ridning my 2016 Scott Genius 720 LT+ and loving it! + size rules!
I have 27.5+ tires on my Giant trance E+ SX 0 pro and absolutely love em!
I'm a trail rider because of where I ride; you have to ride up to come down. So I make the most of the climbs as well. One aspect that is rarely mentioned with wider tyres, is that they require more effort. Not really an issue for ebikes, but I always go with the worst case scenario, and try not to depend on always having the electric assist.
I bought a new Stumpjumer ST because the frame allows for high volume 29 inch tires. The change from 2.3 Butcher to 2.6+ Kennebec was amazing. I have not noticed any negative characteristic, but huge improvements. By the way, if you are looking for a high volume 2.6 wide tire that actually measures 2.6, I recommend to try the Terevail Kennebec 29er.
I love my 2.8 Eddie currents front and rear, very thick side walls, similar to a trials Moto tire.
I just recently bought an old 2017 Scott genius 720 plus, it has plus size tyres and loving it, also its can fit a 29er wheel
Another thing that works in plus tyres favour: tyre inserts reduce their squirm and are now popular.
I have 2.8+ Maxxis on my Whyte 905 V2 and they work great for me. Not sure I would want them on a full suss bike but for a hardtail I think they are spot on👌
Damn, this felt like a documentary. Good stuff!
Thanks Fohman2! Glad you enjoyed watching :)
Closing in on 7000km on my Rocky Mountain 2018 Pipeline. So many KOM and endless fun on all types of trails. 2.8s are simply amazing.
I love the grip of a 2.8 minion tire. It's true that they feel less precise however the positives outweigh the minor down side. They are also really versatile... fantastic in both the dry, the wet, and the snow... especially on an emtb. Its good to see a lot of bikes moving to a mullet setup... keeping that far grippy tire on the back.
27.5+ is still a massive thing on hardtail a the last time I checked, with more and more becoming available or having the spacing for them, e.g. Trek Roscoe range
Yep. I have a 2019 Roscoe 8 with 2.8" Rekon+ on it - they're fantastic. Shame there's just not that much variety on the market for 2.8" tyres. I'd love to put a new Maxxis Dissector on the rear but they won't commit to making more sizes of that - so when time comes to upgrade I'll be probably going to the Minion DHF / DHR combo.
Totally agree, my Trek Roscoe 8 is the first bike I had on 27.5+ tires and it’s simply great!
Currently rocking Maxxis Rekon 2.8 rear and High Roller II 3.0 in the front on my GT Pantera. It has improved the performance dramatically!
I just built a set of 27.5 Plus wheels with i45mm rims and 2.8" tires. I have a a couple 29er wheels with i30 and i35 rims and have 2.4 to 2.6" tires all the time. The downside of going wider and wider rims on a 29er with 2.6" tires, especially aggressive tread design and heavier tires is the slow to start and extra inertia needed to get up to speed. A 27.5 plus gives you many of the benefits but without the weight and "wagon wheel" feel. Just my opinion
If my frame can fit in 29x2.4 maximum, can it fit in 27.5 x 2.8 or 2.6?
Love the 🐈,hope you’re well and staying safe at home.
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I went from 29" 2.2 tires to 27.5 x 3.0 on a different bike three years ago.
The increase in traction is amazing. I crash significantly less. I have way more confidence in my front wheel lateral traction. I love them.
My 2020 Trek Roscoe 7 came standard with 2.8 inch tires and for a hardtail it’s a brilliant move. With 120mm of travel, the plus size really adds a plush feel to the bike 🤙🤙
I'm living in Quebec city, I'm going to try two sets. One will be Michelin Ewild 2.6 and Michelin Wild enduro 2.8. I want to feel the difference of the gumX and the wear of the tire vs grip. I have a Rocky altitude A70 PP We still got snow in the trail here! But next week, it's mud powerplay! Really like your channel 👌
Happens that in order to keep it lightweight sidewalls were paper. On ebikes in some terrains, they should be “back” with tough casings
Still run plus size tires on my hardtail and full suspension. Remember people, you need wide rims with at-least a 35mm internal to take advantage of the larger volume wheels otherwise there isn’t enough side wall support. Oh yeah, and run a slightly slower rebound than you would with normal tires 2-3 clicks...
Just seen this video as I was looking at some news tyres. I want some cross country type tyres on my 29er currently running 2.1 but could go 2.4. Any suggestions
Great vid👌2.8s 4me on my levo. They can go anywhere!
I liked + tires on my old bike, but the power loss pedaling them made me switch back to an efficient 29er...but now I have an Ebike, the + is back, traction, comfort and handling (in that order😉)
I just bought a 27.5+ tire rigid mtb only because the 29+ model was out of budget. Was deciding between 4 27.5+ models, including the Salsa Timberjack & Kona Unit. Coming from a 29x2.1 tire I really like the tire size for babyheads & rutted dirt.
I’m a huge fan of Plus tyres. The grip is unbelievable, they’re poppy when needed, & offer great small bump butt relief. Rear suspensions don’t offer much comfort there for longer rides....
I run 2.8 magic Mary’s on my e bike , I find with the extra weight of the bike it gives it amazing grip ! However my hardtail Marin Pine Mountain I have changed to a 29” 2.3 tyre on the front and still running a 3” tyre on the rear , this gives me good rear wheel grip whilst giving me better front end cornering grip ! Interesting video as I thought plus tyres were still a thing !
If my frame can fit in 29x2.4 maximum, can it fit in 27.5 x 2.8 or 2.6?
Still running 650b on my Stumpy & Turbo Levo. Would never change. The 27.5*2.80 gives me everything I need for the rooty rocky sometimes wet n sloppy trails I ride. Schwalbe Hans Dampf/magic Mary on my analogue bike & eddy currents on my e-mtb. Plus ain't dead yet
Results are only as good as the tests. Good coverage on the plus size stuff. Addendum here though - when considering geo change, you need to focus on the radius difference of the wheels and the pressure you're running them at as you need to look at the system under load.
Just upgraded from a 3.0 to a 3.8 Minion FBR in the rear. I love the extra grip, but the tire barely fits and now I have a reverse mullet with a much bigger rear tire than the front. I was surprised at how much it changed the geometry.
Tell us more? How does it feel different? Curious
@@derman3658 I had a lot of pressure in the rear at first and it made the handlebars feel low, plus the bottom bracket was higher, felt weird. I let out some air so I got a bit of squish and everything is now golden. I'm riding a mix of snow crust and mud, slow techie stuff, so far the setup is amazing. I'm thinking about going 29 in the front but I'm afraid my feet won't touch the ground cause the bb will be so high.
My 2021 Meta Power SX came stock with 27.5x2.4 Schwalbe tyres on it. They're alright but I have been riding 29x2.6" for the past 2.5 years on my Stumpjumper and 2.4" just looks tiny now. I find that the 2.6" tyre not only has more grip but also soaks up some of the small bumps to make the ride overall more comfortable. Luckily my Meta Power can handle a 2.6" so when these 2.4" tyres wear out I'll upgrade to 2.6" and then I can have a direct comparison between the two. One thing to note with the 2.6" tyres is that the "trail" casing that came on my bike was too weak and would squirm a lot when I was railing corners so I upgraded to a DH casing and it was perfect. I weigh 111kg with my riding gear and my XL Stumpjumper weighs 14.5 kg for a total of 125.5 kg. I run 22.5 psi front and 27.5 psi rear in 29x2.6" DH casing tyres. I havent tried every tyre combination available but so far, that is my perfect setup.
I have a hardtail that uses 27.5+ tires, they are 2.8 '' wide. The bike is from 2018 and the only thing i would change about it is the fork. It has a 120mm coil fork. I would love to swap it out for a airfork, but i cant really complain for 400$.
Interesting and very educational. +1 for the cat!
Very informative. Tha is for making this video.
I ride 27.5x2.8 on my Norco Fluid. Stock they are tubed, but added some tape and they set up tubeless no problem. I run them 25psi in the front and back. That seems to work but am open to suggestions!
The only tire I have ever punctured was a 27.5 X 2.8. Maybe it was bad luck, but the long walk back to the car (twice) doesn't make me miss that size. I am happy with the 29 X 2.6 (which is less than 2.6) on the current Levo.
i have raleigh[MTB] current is 26 x1.95 rim and tyre. i want to convert in plus bike by installing 26x3. is it possible ?
I am currently using 27.5x2.3 slim dwr's.
Will I have to change rimm's to fit plus size tire's?
I swapped from 2.8 plus tires to 2.6 Assagai front and 2.6 Dissector rear tires, I honestly miss my bigger tires in most situations - especially in large rocks.
Im debating to mullet my norco torrent 7.1 but i stuck with wheels im building them but debating weather use a 27.5 plus rim on the back
i have a 2019 Haro hardtail that came with WTB 26" 2.8 Tires stock i just ordered some Maxxis same size hopefully they make a difference in feel!
Like the use of the grill as a computer stand!
I have the YT decoy which comes with 27.5x2.8 rear and 29x2.5 front, lot of people complaining about the plus rear tyres and some actually gone down to 27.5x2.6 on both wheels. I have just replaced the rear tyre with Michelin e-wild rear and the grip seems to be unreal, I also have Vitoria air liner in the rear tyre which maybe helping with extra support on corners I don’t feel like its squeegee! I’m also happy with 29x2.5 maxis minion dhf. I think on ebike it definitely make sense to have wider tyres on the rear at least.
Depending on where I ride, the Maxxis Minions/Assegai 2.5 I use in loamy, hard pack or buffed trails. On dry, sandy, gravely and rocky trails, I prefer 2.8 size tires with lower psi and lightweight insert (Huck Norris).
Hey Steve would say for you to try putting a moto trials tyre on your E- Bike IF You could get a rim / tyre too it fit it?
Got a 27.5" on the rear and 29" on the front love the feel of the bike this way, much more then the stock 27.5" setup.
Converted my Levo 29er to 27.5 in the rear, with chip flipped. Worked well and fun, but I don't think it works quite as well as 29 all around, esp. for the rocky terrain here in Sydney. The geometry change just didn't quite work as well. possibly because I also extended the front travel to 160 (from 150 stock).
If my frame can fit in 29x2.4 maximum, can it fit in 27.5 x 2.8 or 2.6?
Brilliant thanks for the footage boy's
When you are recommending tire pressure, is there a difference between tubed and tubeless pressures? Is one more than the other? I run 27.5 x 2.8 here in Central NY, USA and I love the combination in the mostly loamy, muddy trails.
Yes
@@davidsuzukiispolpot What is the difference?? A pound or two, or more?
Hey mister I have mi co.op bike 27.5 and the tires that I have it’s 2.10 wide but I want to put another tires more fat do you think the 2.5 r 2.6 they can fit and my rims hopefully you can answer me
Love my 27.5+! Tubeless at 15 psi on my hard tail feels amazing.
Do they make any aggressive plus size high volume tires for a 26" size wheel?
I had them on a spesh fuse a few years back in 3 inch and they were awful, too thin and rolled on every corner. Now have 2.8 eddy currents on my ebike and they are great. Tough, grippy and just the right amount of support at lower psi. Run an insert on the rear and have smashed through the narliest rock sections without flats.
I decided to change the amortised 29er wheels to 27,5+ wheels on my Stumpy. I am curious, how big is the difference. My assumptions: cornering and jumping will be easier and more fun. I am not sure about uphills. Climbing with 29er tires is not easy, but the rear shock gave me a lot of traction to climb ridiculous-looking terrain. Wider tires might bite even more.
Ed: I was looking for second hand rear wheel for almost a month in my area. Sram XD, 30+ mm width and rear-only wheel (without front wheel) were harsh requirements.
2.6 happened which is best of both
Im still running 27.5 x 3.0 on my cannondale beast of the east and absolutely love it
Is it possible to put a regular 27.5 inch tire on a plus size rim? Thanks in advance
hey man, can i ride 27.5 2.8 on a 2022-23 cube stereo hybrid 160?
27+ has a great place to be appreciated. Take a trail eMTB and scrap the stock 27.5x2.8s and go 27.5x3 out back and if you are lucky like me swap to 29x2.6 up front, it makes a proper beast
Well, maybe we all need 28 inch wheels next 🤔
Haha even the graphics on the screen named them as all the assegai even when he mentioned minions. Maybe the social isolating is getting to him🤔🏴
Or we could do 30" rims with low profile tires ..... I have ridden them all and the difference is negligible I ride normally fast as i can pedal down and sweet like crazy on the up
Nah ...be 32s on skinny velcro...I put lolly sticks in my spokes brrm brrrm... disposable condom like balloons.... mebbie ... nothing will surprise me.... advice on wheels and tyres should be sacred ..all mtb review should be sacrasanct.....we don't all get free stuff to waffle crap about do we..... took me 3yrs to save up for my haibike 27.5... now aparantly dead in 18mnth... hohoho
What is the min rim width to use with 27.5"+ tires ? Do I need a special rim to use 27.5+ ?
35mm inner width
Have been running the 27.5x2.8 tyres on my Powerfly FS7 down around 20 PSI for some time in a search for grip on our local loose gravelly and dusty corners over summer. Never even look like pinching the tubes. Just pushed them back up to 35 to see if they'd run a bit faster. They do, but man have they lost that smoothness you get from a big soft tyre. Also tend to feel a lot more sketchy on the loose gravel. Think I'll be dropping them back down again soon.
Hi in regard to the pressures on my Genius which is a plus 27.5 i run the pressures down to 12-15 psi and the overall performance was impressive, on my Sam ebike which is fitted with the same Minions as the genius i run between 14-18psi depending on what trail surfaces I'm riding both set ups are tubed. I have found these tyres to be very adaptable re pressure and bike suspension settings to be almost limitless in what you can do for the tyres characteristics re rolling speed.steering and braking responce . I have noticed that the Sam on the harder surfaces tends to perform best at the higher setting with no lack of comfort. So there you go thats my tuppence worth of comment. Regards Chris
Running maxxis chronicles.
27.5x3. Awesome all around tire good for my all around hardtail when don't know where I'll end up.
Trails, pavement, side of the road.
It rolls forever.
I have 3" wide tires on my 24" and 26" unicycles. Wildlife Leopards. Nice tires and super fast. I can hit a whopping 8 miles an hour.
a wider tire will squirm less at a given pressure, so there's definitely a logic to running them a bit softer. I think it's always just going to be about balancing it for the kind of riding you're doing, keeping in mind that you'll probably want to drop a couple PSI on a 2.8, compared to a 2.3
I went from 29s to27+ and the biggest differece I noticed was cornering grip, the 27+ had more. I am on my second 27+ E bike and am happpy with the setup (Kona Remote Ctrl, Very underrated E Bike) but wonder what a 29 up front mould be like. Mullet.
I loved my plus 27.5 2.8s and 3.0's until I started getting petal strikes. Unfortunately the bike reviews never mentioned that it would drop my bottom bracket way too low with this tire size. So my frame that was designed for 29 inch wheels being sold with this tire size was really just a gimmick. So I think, the reason plus tires disappeared was because not enough bike manufacturers ever really designed bikes specifically for them.
A hardtail with a fast rolling plus tire in the back, and an aggressive(but narrower) 29 in the front, is my ideal setup.
If my frame can fit in 29x2.4 maximum, can it fit in 27.5 x 2.8 or 2.6?
Love my 27.5/2.8 on my Cannondale.
I run 4" X 20" on my eBike 😅.
I love my 27.5 FS MTB but 29ers are so smoothe. I tried a friend's 27.5plus and it felt INCREDIBLE but it was a super light Santa Cruz.... I would go as far as saying that most people riding around would benefit from 27.5plus but as someone else mentioned it is the industry that dictate.
To sum up, don't get bogged down, just go ride 🤙
7:30 cameo from cat
Don't know - I currently run a 29 x 2.6 on my rear and 29 x 2.4 on the front. SE4's from Bontrager. Had a XR5 2.6 up front for a bit but found it vague on narrow single track. Run my current setup 20psi front/rear in summer and love the 2.6 out back as it gives me good grip on tech climbs.
This all on a normal Slash, no assistance. Might try a SE3 2.4 out back and might also test a 2.6 SE4 on the front. No issue with traction up front though. For Ebiking, 27.5+ / 29 R/F combo seems good but I am also tempted by the Commencal Meta Power 29.
So hard to know.
the eddy current 2.8 on my kenevo gives me the most confidence. Most ppl i know ride 2.6 or 2.8 tires.
7:30 El Fancy kitty cat approves the plus tire. Paw stamp of approval