Recondition Dead Lead Acid Battery | Boiling Batteries
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- This is a video of how you can take a dead battery and get it to hold a charge again. This does fix all lead acid battery issues but can correct lead sulfonation.
How to fix an AGM battery (not really)
How water batteries work
How lead acid batteries work
How to fix a dead battery - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
That's not sulfuric acid on the lead plates. it's lead sulfate. If you're going to tell the internet to do stupid shit, at least take a few minutes to learn the chemistry involved.
I’ve seen stupider shit 😂
is it stupid because it works?
Hehehe... STooPID af homies!😮😂😂
@@MetalShopWally I reckon it's stupid because it's toxic gas spewing from it... But that's just a guess honestly...I wanted to know if it actually works myself 😂
Batteries can explode
Gotta love the smell of boiling sulfuric acid in the morning 💀⚰️💀
And for the rest of the week !
Smells like
A waste of time
don't light a match
Boiling point of sulfuric acid (300C) is a few hundred degrees higher then the melting point of the plastic used for the casing. The acid is breaking down to form water, hydrogen, and sulfur (which stays in the battery since its a solid) and venting mostly steam with some hydrogen, both chemicals are harmless when compared to gasoline or brake parts cleaner.
I understand it smells like...Victory!
I heard breathing in those fumes gives you 20 extra years of life
Maybe a little less😂
😂
I don't screw around with batteries. In 1983, i hit the start button on a Kenworth, and instantly, both batteries blew up. Scared the hell out of me. I found the top of one battery about 120 ft away. Since then, i have the utmost respect for batteries.
Remember back then there essentially wasn't any safety regulations built into battery technology. This would be similar to if you were topping off an old battery with water and it tipped over. Replace and it should work again
When batteries overheat or charge, they off-gas hydrogen and oxygen equally. If you had anywhere NEAR a stoichiometric mix of hydrogen to oxygen under the hood.....
You mean you have a great respect for hydrogen gas. When battery’s explode it’s the hydrogen gad doing the kabooming. Always a good idea to keep your battery’s topped off with distilled water.( if you didn’t dump out the electrolytes that came with the battery originally, I can’t speak on what to top them off with if it’s not the original electrolyte mixture because I am not a batteriologist)
@Thisjustin4clarity the batteries blew up because the cables pulled on the post and cracked the the connection beneath the post which arced and ignited the gas. The only explanation I have for both batteries blowing up is that when the first battery blew up, the crossover cable ripper the top off the other batt causing the hydrogen in that batt to explode as well
i agree . knew a guy i worked with had the battery box catch fire on a propane truck on his first day out by himself. luckily he was able to put it out but still , pre trip inspections are so important
The problem isn't the degradation of the electrolyte it's the degradation of the lead plates themselves.
he’s aware, if you listen he’s getting the sulphuric acid off of the plates…
Salt water
Pulse charging them also take care of that issue
Very little lead in batteries. He is cleaning the sulfate off. A shorted cell will blow up. Doing something like this inside is stupid. Being that on cell wasn't doing much, I say shorted cell.
Thank you.
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Ok there Heisenberg..
Yeah, science!
And then the warthog wrapped the chocolate into aluminum foil.
That looks safe. Make sure you do it indoors and smoke 'em if you got 'em.
This is why I want my neighbors to be as far away as possible.
As a 30 year firefighter/paramedic that's been to quite a few "battery explosions", I can say with certainty, a trip to a trauma center is in your future.
I had one blow up in my face when I was younger and that's hydrogen bomb right there I couldn't feel my face or hands for an hour and I didn't even know if I had a facelift for a while that guy is playing with fire one spark will set that off I don't care if the Caps are on or off there's a lot of miss information and no nothing that's here
The trick to not taking that trips is keeping the cells open in a well ventilated area and wear a face shield.
Hydrogen dissipates very quickly in air so make sure you are working in a well ventilated space (use a fan) and unplug the charger before disconnecting the battery.
Face shield protection rocks. No I'm saying I used a face shield to protect me from rocks.
@@thestateofreal2533you don’t sound like you’re wearing a face shield in this video
This will work, but you lose a lot of amp hours. I have a couple of batteries I've had for 20 years. They will still crank but not for long at all.
good incentive to keep the engine in tip top shape then!
@@ARockRaiderThe engine?
I’ve gotten 8-14YRs out of a few AGMs the 14YR one went with a car I got in an accident and the car was 6m too new to buy back from the insurance company.
The truck was not letting the car die too often. Charging the battery as soon as possible if the car died. Battery tender if more than 10 below 0 or a battery warmer or a jump. Those things weren’t necessary to start the car but it kept you from killing the battery which is bad for the battery. I used 0w30 synthetic during the winter on my non hybrid cars and whatever the engine called for on the hybrids (usually 0w20 or 0w30 if European).
I had a few AGMs that didn’t make it 8 years including one that only lasted 3 but it was a red top which has holes in the matte to increase the cranking amperage. It’s the complete opposite of a deep cycle and my dad left the dome light on for 6 months when he moved the car. So no saving it.
You do this kind of thing to an AGM but you don’t need too if you go online to a web forum about batteries and read the peer reviewed comments on how to care for them.
Also on some cars Honda and Ford included the vehicle will RUIN the battery. The Honda because of the smart eco alternator and the Ford on purpose using a capacity timer that over time reduces how much it charges the battery not only reducing its CCA but also causing it to age sooner from sitting with a lower and lower and lower voltage. I’m sure other cars are like this.
The solution to that issue… disconnect the battery and charge it every 6 months or sooner during the winter (weekly or nightly during cold spells). For the Ford you need to find the directions on manually resetting the battery timer with a series of key or button presses or use ForScan and a OBD adapter to reset the battery timer.
Every new car I own has had a 12V battery relearn or replacement mode in the diagnostics. You can almost guarantee that any new battery you replace yourself will have a reduced life in these vehicles! Guaranteed! Unless you reset it. BMW and Ford you can do yourself for certain and plenty of other cars likely as well.
@@qua7771 if the engine is well tuned it will start right up so it doesn't need to be cranked for long.
Here in the states we just replace and recycle them, third world they rebuild them. Watching a dude in a bathrobe with sandals on sitting in the sand rebuilding a battery is pretty wild. Not entirely sure they dispose of the liquids responsibly though. Looks like they just dump it somewhere.
That looks dangerous!😂 I will keep buying mine at Costco thanks for the crazy video.
what do you think they do with the battery you PAY to turn in? this is how its done
I will just buy a battery. It's cheaper than a trip to the ER for acid burns. Overcharging batteries to make them boil is extremely dangerous! Possibly a Darwin award in your future.
People don't realize that only 100 years, ago, people had to make their own batteries. Check out the Model Engineer and Amateur Electrician journals for more details. Volume 1 published in 1898
People also used to be exposed to lead and asbestos constantly
Baghdad battery. Lot older than that
@@billbirch3748 yes, we are talking more modern battery tech here. People look at reconditioning an old battery like it's wizard science, lol
90% of people couldn't change a flat tire
Where can I find it? Honestly interested. I know a lot about quite a few things but electricity I need to learn more about
I haven't bought a new battery for my tractors or my farm trucks in twenty years. That trick works.
Any recommendations for someone with intelligence but not experience in this?
@@WildBillILLYup, don't try it😅 it's super dangerous and you're more likely to fail than succeed.
So my f350 needs a couple of new bricks... the batteries been sitting for 3 yrs...will this still work?
Your lying. 🤥
@@redneckswitwheelsyou can just buy a blem for like 40 bucks
Lead avid batteries go bad two ways, the lead sponge falls off the plates lowering the plates ability to produce the proper amperage, when enough has fallen off it collects in the bottom shorting the cell and the cell stops working. That is why you see readings change in two volt steps. Also when batteries get overheated the plates warp shorting between them.
Yup. Empty those cells and if it's not clear, all that silt is your disintegrated plate paste. That's what makes the cell work.
I think the heat mainly breaks down your paste off the plates though. I think modern plates are wrapped to prevent shorting.
Forgot straight up sulfination.. all crystalline in place...
Overheated? You mean like enough to boil it's fluid for a half hour?
Ther yago… a sulfated battree.
@@hillaryclinton1314sulfation*. Sulfination is a sulfate heavy piss
Dude is creating Koffing and Wheezing
That only works if the plates are still good, and 12.4 volts is not a good battery voltage.
Correct- 12.5v is the cutoff line to toss a battery, not to mention you still have to pass a load test
2 . 2 volts per cell . A local battery mfg. Said yrs. Ago . Douglas battery .
@@rossbrumby1957yep, should read at least 11, when you go to start a 12 system with just 12 volts that won’t cut it!!!
Shoe a charged battery will have 13.7
@@hosslane320that’s right
There's a backyard business where i live called Do-Rite battery, the old black man James has been reconditioning batteries for 57 years. I've never paid over 67$ for a reconditioned battery with a 18 month free replacement. Also i dont know how his warranty is, because ive never had to return one of his batteries under warranty, ever!
The batteries from 57 years ago were absolutely nothing like what a modern (last 20 years) batteries are. Absolute night and day difference.
@@aaroneckardt5514I don't think he's restoring 57 year old batteries, he's just been doing it for that long.
Well that is old tech people had been dumber you might have a quarter of the capacity
Guarantee for 18 months? You should get 5 years out of a new battery.
@@deang5622 keyword is should. Also I said I never paid over 67$ for a battery. So unless you are buy lawnmower batteries new for less than 70$ please tell me where.
If you've ever seen a battery explode you wouldn't mess with them.
I had a guy at auto zone said I couldn’t take a broken terminal post, file it down to flat, drill a hole for a stud and make a top mount terminal! I did and it worked!
Boiling the sulfuric acid off the plates? That's a new one!
i guess he means he's removing all the sulfates that collect on the lead and prevent the fllow of electrons?
Not really I started out working in a speed shop at 6 years old back in the 1960s... Stuff like that trick was quite common. at one parts stores had gallons and gallons of battery acid that is how common that was. My grand mother accidentally passed out showing up announced after a hard thunder storm took the awning down at home she walked into what had been a totally enclosed back entrance is where my grand father boiled the batteries. We found her laying back outside by her car. Not good to breath that crap either.
sulfites?
Right. It's boiling off corrosion. Plus that's a stick welder.
@@danredhorsedbIs a TIG but it looks like it is switched to stick mode.
But the lead plates will still be damaged
No they won’t.
@@thestateofreal2533he said they will "Still" be damaged, he means this won't fix the corrosion that has happened over the life of the battery. He's correct; This won't fix the lead cells, they will "Still" be less than they were from the factory. Why does that matter though, if the boiled battery lasts 80% of how it would brand new, that's good enough!
@@thestateofreal2533The plates are connected at the top by a cast-on strap that is welded to the plates. The elements fit into the individual cells of each battery. Battery Paste: The paste is a lead oxide mixture that creates both lead dioxide and sponge lead. It adheres to the positive and negative battery grids.
Doing this heavenly damages the pace it will fall off the plate and collecting the bottom of the cell and eventually short that cell out. I guess if the battery is already trashed you have nothing to lose by doing this but it's got like a 1 in 10% chance of working and you better get another battery as soon as possible cuz it won't last.
If it goes for another year or so of use, that's a bonus.
Yes... You wil never get it back to 100%
You only save yourself some additional cycles
Don’t do this indoors. You’re creating a whole bunch of hydrogen that could be ignited by the post connector sparking. High potential for a Darwin Award here
My truck battery is about 150 bucks, but I’ll spend that not to be poisoned or burned. This type of stuff can be pretty dangerous.
Yes, this removes sulphation which clogs the battery but reduces its peak power under load and...
Reduces its cold weather output to nearly unusable low levels.
Only the soft sulfation, which is why the battery has a reduced output.
No, it does not! It dissolves the sulfides into the electrolyte. And can bring a battery that won't hold a charge back to life. 😂
Cold weather will reduce any battery to as low as 25% of its full capacity depending on the temperature...
Trust me, brother... I have lived 9 months out of every year since 1974 in below zero temperatures... I've dealt with every battery used in the automotive industry up to and including 4D and 8D batteries used in heavy equipment. If you do not use a heated battery blanket, an oil pan heater, and an engine block heater. You probably won't be using that vehicle very often, if at all, in the winter. 😂
Overcharging a lead acid battery isn't recommended, but it is required sometimes in order to dissolve the sulfides off of the lead plates. Just be sure to do it in a well ventilated area because you will be making hydrogen gas.
If you ever get a chance take a tour of a battery factory. Ive toured 2, Johnson Controls, and Crown. Intersting process building a large lead acid battery. Highly recommend it.
My friend was just telling me about helping a lady who was going to buy a new battery at a dealer, when Johnson controls was right across the street in Minneapolis. He got her the identical battery for less than half the cost.
Well it isn't as if Johnson Controls has ever built a good battery so if you want to know how to make a battery don't go to the Johnson Controls plant
you said johnson cotnrols uhuhuh
Desulfation is the process of removing sulfate from a battery. It's a 24-hour cycle that involves sending a high-voltage, high-frequency, low amperage pulse into the battery. The pulse is designed to break down crystalline sulfate deposits that have built up on the battery's lead plates.
And you can get a $35 charger to do it off of Amazon these days :)
But he is sending High Amperage DC current into the battery
Equalize charging. 15.5 volts. Some inverters have that feature as a timed event. It is not 24 hrs. I never endorsed equalize charge to customers as I never believed the process would reclaim a damaged battery for service. 35 years in RVs repair, service, manufacturing.
Well, not really with a 35 dollar charger- I reconditioned batteries (cooking 6 packs) for a living. We used commercial Christie units and would never add electrolyte, just distilled water. It wouldn't recon every battery, but enough to keep 8 different branch locations in business.
If you live in Oergon/SW Washington, that's what the yellow Battery shops have done for 60 years, our Belmont shop was featured in the show Supernatural, I think they were fighting a werewolf mechanic...
I've had batteries blow up in my face doing that. Lucky I didn't get hurt!
Mans turning his garage into a bomb to save money
Smooth brain, that ain’t no bomb
Not to mention destroying his shop floor with the sulfuric acid boiling over on to it...
There are multiple videos on TH-cam showing how they do it. Some have slight differences in how they do it but one video showed six batteries and of the six,he got four to function. And even a few months of extra life in the old tractor or car you're going to sell is still better than shelling out the money prematurely.
Don't inhale the vapors.
@@BeeHiverson not the battery dillweed the gas it’s releasing it’s releasing a bunch of hydrogen WHICH IS EXPLOSIVE ya _smooth brain_
Static charge of 12.4 volts is 3/4 charged. A fully charged battery is 12.6 to 12.7. Anything over that is a surface charge.
Should be able to get 13 - 13.2
Yeah 12.4 is a weak battery
@hardtime1972, that's called a surface charge. 12.6 is a 100% charged battery. Anything above is a surface charge.
13.5 is a great battery with full load
@@littlespoon6112.6 resting but can also go higher during charge cycle.
I'm sure you know what you're doing. I like all the PPE you are using, no gloves, no face shield, no nothing😅
This works! Did this to a deep cycle and got 10 years out of it and it still works!
I kept the same battery in my daily vehicle alive for over 12 years with this method and that was a one year warranty battery. In the end I took it out and it still works in my camper power supply.
I have a Ford Mondeo from 2002, same battery as the first day.
Does really your batteries die so frequently? O.o
Battery life is dependent upon use and environment. A vehicle stored in a garage is better on the battery than one stored outside. An air conditioned garage is better than a non- air conditioned garage.
Do you start the vehicle twice a day, or 8 times? 8 times is 4x harder than twice.
Is the vehicle driven at least 20 minutes on roads with few stops each time it's started, or not? The alternator needs to get off of idle and stay there a while to properly recharge the battery after starting.
Is your battery appropriately sized for the application? Vehicles now tend to have two AH rated batteries that is determined by the number or type of options the vehicle has, and also two types, general an AGM for vehicles with auto start stop engines. Mfg's often will downsize all vehicles, regardless of options, to the smaller AH battery a few years after a vehicle re-design to save money.
I live 2.6 miles from work. I've gotten about 5 years out of batteries across 4 different vehicles over 25 years. My wife has had a minimum of 26 miles to work across a 30 year period and three vehicles. We've never had to replace a battery in her vehicles.
I've got a 25yo battery in my vette. It's only used for long cruises through the country side. I pull it during winter and store it our mud room.
wow thats a detailed way to explain 'charge cycles' for batterys. nice real world comment!
Naw, not even AGM or gel cells last that long in a daily used vehicle. Vehicles kept in moderate storage temperatures with trickle charger, then maybe. Not so with the daily used vehicles.
Only if this was the last battery on the planet.
Nah, not even then. Picture those poor buckled plates...
I wonder how expensive that gas is
Apparently battery boy inhaled some of that so called "sulfuric acid" a few times. Good job.
Darwin award front runner here!
In the military we just add empson salts and top off with distilled water. We run them 10 years sometimes. Doesnt work so good on the junk imports that the parts store sell.
What battery brands does the military use?
I work for a battery manufacturer. The batteries are pre-sulfated to kick start the failure mode. It’s a scam
I was a Bradley mechanic and the 24V batteries WE used, at least, weren't anything special. Just way over priced for the government. We never wasted our time messing with them or even charging them, if they were dead or not charging we just replaced them. Weird they would waste their time or even risk lives with a "jerry-rigged" battery. Military almost always just replaces things like that. It's just not worth it to them to mess with. What branch were you in and vehicles/batteries were you taking about out of curiosity?
i accidently kicked a battery over and the acid leaked out, i refilled it with epsom salts and water and charged it and the battery would read like 14 volts lol. it works@@xsixinfantryx
@@AARon-bp7cpCan you explain more?
This seems like the most dangerous way to save a few hundred bucks
Apparantly you havent been paying attention. Plenty of other social media pages will show you jow to unalive yourself way faster and even cheaper than this
connect it, turn on the welder, and walk away. dangerous if youre a moron
@@asdfasdf-zt8vz okay then great way to start a crazy fire lol
@@samuelmarmolejo4378 youre obviously not going to go cook dinner while the thing is running , common sense
Make sure you stand directly over it so you can absorb all those lovely fumes
If you have an old 200 amp dumb battery charger then you can do this.
Smart chargers won't do this.
It's recommended to do 15 minutes on, let cool for 30 to 45 minutes, then turn it on again and repeat until all cells are boiling.
Boiling means the sulphate that is crystallized on the lead plates has been removed and battery will be like new again.
I've done this to help revive or add life to a battery. Never used the baking soda or Epson salt solutions. Just boiled intermittently 15 min on 30 to 40 min off using an old 200 Amp boost charger and added distilled water. Avoid adding too much water. Doesn't always work. Also dangerous so recommend to periodically use a new style charger that has a desulfication or restore mode after battery is fully charged. Not worth the risk of blowing up a battery and sending sulfuric acid everywhere. Probably really high risk to use a welder.
Definitely do this outside too. And as long as the pressure can escape then it "shouldn't" blow up, but there is a higher risk of causing a fire. So have an extinguisher ready to go.
I worked chemical industry for over 30 years. I've had two friends, lab workers, who got horrible skin burns from sulfuric acid. So no thanks. With care a $200 battery can last 5 years. About 10-11 cents a day.
And.... use care when jump starting dead batteries.
I typically get 10 years of service from a lead-acid starting battery, often more. Depends on how you use them perhaps, I don't drive daily.
Don’t do this…🤦🏼♂️
Nah it's fine quit crying not all of us use shit once and throw it out some of us actually fix are shit
Don't worry they'll find out about acids& bases
@@loviestlewis1103 yep there going to find out that it works it's sad you idiots would rather buy new then fix it
I’ve been working on batteries for over 20 years this is how it’s done. If taken to a shop they will do the same thing. I’ll let you know when we find out.
@@HammBone950just buy a new one this dude clearly just in his garage cooking a battery still so stupid 😂
Bro just invented the steam straight six
Boiling sulfuric acid is an interesting hobby.
$350.
That's what I just paid for a Ford motorcraft battery. That was less than 200 bucks, before somebody in China sneezed.
Costco is the only place I'll buy batteries, so far the best warranty I've found.
@kelsycunningham8452 great for insurance also!
They're nothing special, just interstate batterys. Also, costco will charge you the difference in price if bring in a defect. Meaning if you bought it for $200 and now it costs $250, you pay the $50.
@@kelsycunningham8452 ... Does Costco sell motorcraft? Because motorcraft batteries work. And they have one hell of a warranty. And for 350 bucks I expect that thing will be in there for 10 years. Because, it says motorcraft. Not so sure about the Costco brand. And I mean, I'm a little skeptical of buying auto parts from the grocery store. It's not like they sell groceries, at the auto parts store.
Why did you do that? I just bought an interstate battery from Costco for $120. If you include the membership cost it was $180. All batteries are manufactured by the same 2 or 3 factories so it really doesn't matter the name brand.
If you have a problem with thieves discharge a couple of batteries and charge them up backwards and make them accessible.😅
I had to Google that to make sure that is legit.
OMFG, that is GENIUS!
Just an FYI.
9/10 YOU can be charged for mischief for this.
@@wakkawakka7624it was a accident
Absolutely nothing will happen unless you're referring to damaging an alternator and potentially starting a fire assuming there are no inline fuses.
You are just regurgitating an ignorant old mechanics tale. Nothing more.
@@aaroneckardt5514I bet you're fun at parties
The is why all batteries are maintenance free now
This was a bad idea to post this. Now a bunch of idiots are going to try it, it's going to catastrophically fail and someone is going to get hurt.
I work in a Chrome shop stripping parts. I use nitric to strip nickel, copper, and gold off aluminum. I use sulfuric acid to strip nickel and copper off steel parts such as all the old school bumpers. The room I work in has a 25-30 ceiling with 2 large exhaust fans. It doesn't matter what I do that's in code the hydrogen builds up over the tank in the worst case scenario it's usually always bumpers. The last was a 1950s Cadillac bumper that weighed some where north of 200-250lbs. The cloud of hydrogen that built up was THICK, so THICC I could've bottled it and sold it for fuel a 10 foot high yellow and greenish cloud of boom doom ready to blow. Knowing this hydrogen cloud was ripe and ready I would always cut off the rectifiers to avoid the SPARKS when checking out the progress of the bumper but I had walked out of the room to get some fresh air for a few minutes and my nosey ass boss wanted to call himself checking my work unleashed the H-BOMB on the entire shop and the unfortunate rich couple he was giving a tour to. The shop supervisor and I were outside looking at the exhaust fans to see if any of the cloud was being blown out when we heard what sounded like a mouter round going off I said DAMN one of the copper hangers must have burnt through and dropped half the bumper in the tank and grounded the other end on the bar. I forgot to mention the group of ladies that worked across from my room. When we ran in they all were on the floor under their tables just like half of the guys on the plating line HELL the whole shop of 75 people were either on the floor or had brown spots on the back of their pants. Needless to say the boss wearing a 3 piece suit luckily didn't get any on his face but he had to kiss that suit goodbye. He also tried to blame me but I pointed to a sign I made and put up myself that said find the lead stripper or be sure to cut the rectifier before touching the sulfuric acid tank. In my experience sulfuric does not really do much to my skin alittle irritation I guess it does differently to some others but I know it will eat the clothes off your back.
Nothing to do with charging battery
@@wadebelcher1338: Yeah. It's tie in is the H2SO4 ... CRAZY story. No wonder all the chrome shops are gone 😂.
Epson Salt? Really? Never heard this before. I call BS
Crazy story not sure what set off the explosion...was it a phone call?
Wonder what it does to the inside of your lungs, thanks for such a detailed and specific explanation of how dangerous that process looks
Better have safety glasses and a face shield, at 40 amps it could spontaneously throw a spark off 1 of those cables, doesnt take much
He's got the jars open, no pressure no boom.
Hydrogen gas will light off. No pressure needed.@@matthewmenteer5673
@@matthewmenteer5673Could still go boom. I know someone who lost an eye doing this shit.
@@planespeaking I weld on batteries with Oxy~acetylene , with the jars open there is very little risk of the oxygen and hydrogen to be trapped enough to cause any boom.
Your friend if he had a failure probably had one caused by an internal failure of the plates like a dead short... if the temperature of the cells get too high it can deform and short out causing a rapid boiling off of all the water. In 6000lbs+ batteries this can sound like a shotgun. It will deform the 1/4" thick tray at times.
Electricity and hydrogen gas kind of an explosive combo
Tig welder as a power supply 😮😮😮. I like it!
Does this actually work? Or does it give u another month out of the battery?
Paint shakers used to be in remote gas station garages. In an emergency, shake off the sulfation, dump it out, then add the acid, and it would get you down the road for a bit but not permanently.
wait a second ...you would shake the shit out of a battery?? jesus...yall were nuts :)
Yeah, you have a point there....
I've seen plenty of batteries blow up, so I wouldn't try it myself.
That was a scam.. haha
Darwin Award contestant.
Why been doing this for 30 years
@@dzl6848 Being lucky is not the same thing as being smart, dzl. You're lucky.
@@jasminelindros8923 this is how we've always done it and the guy at the battery shop does it and he tells people to do this before buying a new battery. He's an old timer and helps people out before the spend money.
@@dzl6848 Trying to rationalize your ignorance is a waste of your time and mine, dzl. You remind me of the morons who claim their long life is due to the benefits of smoking two or three cigars a day.
I've handled about 10,000 industrial batteries... while I didn't use a welder, this is pretty industry standard, even the factory guys constant current charge. I'm more worried about the "forklift certified" crowd than a battery killing me... and I take torches to the tops of 8000lbs batteries
Great idea without a fume hood. Bet this genius isn't even wearing a mask.....
i luv skilled ppl charging things with tig welders
I bet that smells fantastic. 🤮🤮
It would chemical burn your sinuses
@@uzomadworth it
@@uzomad it's at best 1150g/l battery acid is fairly weak. I wouldn't want it in my eyes, but its not how the internet thinks of it. It does tend to ruin cotton and leather over time if you're handling it every day and splashing it on you. It does make your skin feel itchy if you let it dry on you.
Hot acid, the stuff from the chemical companies that you dilute to make battery acid at appropriate levels will melt your skin on contact, and yeah if you huff it will ruin your lungs, but its not as volatile as you can't be in close proximity to it.
Turn it upside down about ten inches off the floor and drop it a few times then charge it. Same result but safer & way faster.
$209 at NAPA for new battery for 4 cylinder 2017 toyota camry. This is really cool content. I need a welder anyway.
I used to cook mine like that. Works every time
Used to jump heavy diesel equipment batteries in bitter cold weather like that. Had to be careful that batteries wasn’t frozen cause they can explode and it’s ugly!! Don’t ask me how I know!!!
I haven’t heard “ dont ask me how I know” in a while thank you, I used to say that to my friends joking around
The sulfuric acid doesn't boil off. The water boils off and the sulfuric acid gets concentrated. If you get any of that too far, then you get thick white fumes that will wreck your lungs. It's would be a particular issue if the cells are seperated and one is getting really concentrated while an end one still isn't boiling, yet.
If you get the white smoke you can lower the amps on the welder or charger.
@HammBone950 No, if you get thick white smoke, then you have boiled all the water off. Now you actually are boiling the sulfuric and vaporizing it all over yourself and your shop. Lower amps won't magic some water back in there.
Tig welder to battery is a nice touch for your home insurance
Now you just need to really check that connection and see if you can get it to spark 👍
Doing something like this can be really dangerous, so it’s important to keep your calm. Have a cigarette while you’re working, if need be. It’ll help settle your nerves.
💥 boom
I remember those days should have put that on wood so you wouldn't burn holes in your garage floor
The key to extended life of the batteries is to charge them regularly with a battery’s charger that has a de-sulfate mode.
I have one of those kind of chargers. How often is "regularly"?
I did this too… I turned the battery upside down over a bucket to remove the dangerous acid and disposed of safely at my local recycling place. but to each their own.
Common baking soda will also do the job.
Good to know
I have used a backing soda distilled water solution to neutralize the sulfide acid before.
Let’s not mention the $150 on electricity to do that. Hydrogen is VERY flammable lol
Not to mention the Toxic gasses that he is breathing in while filming that.
@@4literpowered Not really any toxic gasses would be produced in this process, hydrogen and steam are the main products, both are fairly inert to the human body, the plastic casing will melt long before any nastier chemicals from the breakdown or boiling of H2SO4 would occur. I certainly wouldn't recommend doing it in a poorly ventilated area purely due to the flammability hazard. In the perspective of automotive this is remarkably safer then chemicals that you usually work with, gasoline contains benzene which is a carcinogen, and it is far more flammable then hydrogen because the vapor clouds pool on the floor, hydrogen vapor is lighter then air so it's generally a lot safer to work with then things like staring fluid, gasoline, brake parts cleaner, etc.
Everything inside of an automobile is flammable, hydrogen is pretty tame when compared to gasoline vapor. Also, that wouldn't cost $150 in electricity, 40A @ 12V is 500W, over 8 hours is 4KWh, at $0.10/KWh that $0.40
My man! Practical tips for us poor folk to avoid the mosquito sucking corporations 🙌🏼😎
On what planet is water and epsom salts the right electrolyte? Not any I've been to!
In the presence of acid the epsom salt breaks down into Mg2+ and SO4^2-. According to Le Chatelier's principle, increasing the concentration of one of the reactants (in this case, sulfate ions) can push the equilibrium of a reversible reaction to favor the formation of the products, which, in the context of a sulfated battery, means dissolving lead sulfate crystals back into the electrolyte. It sort of works, but then you also have a bunch of magnesium in the battery, and an even higher overall sulfate concentration, which isn't great. So if you do this, and then dump the mess, pay the hazmat fees to dispose of it, buy fresh sulfuric acid and use a hygrometer to refill it to the proper specific gravity, then, you can spend more money on it than it would have cost to buy a new one, and still end up with a worse battery
It’s good for constipation
@@alakaniExactly. I earlier assumed that he boiled the sulfates off with the epsom salt water and then dumped that and added proper proper fresh battery acid solution. Apparently they run these as they are?
If you dump the solution, you lose dissolved lead and after removing the sulphates you're left with thinned out lead mesh plates, reducing the amount of energy they can store and power they can provide, right? If you don't dump the solution then you have Mg++ floating in there and maybe all kinds of lead bits and sludge at the bottom?
In my time doing this for Lead Acids, if you triple the amps going in on a charger and leave the vent covers open, it'll also work.
I think you mean trickle the amps.
@@HammBone950 triple for fast charging to revitalize cells. Double voltage for recharge 2 cycles. 2 recondition cycles
The last time I saw a steaming battery like this was just before it exploded. I've been told that hydrogen gas is produced when lead-acid batteries are over-charged. I don't know what gas is produced but I do know that it's super explosive. My car battery exploded while I was connecting jumper cables. The explosion was loud and violent. The battery casing was cracked in half and all six battery caps were blown well above the 5 story building I was parked near. Avoid any sparks or open flames if your battery ever boils like this one.
Very interesting, I'm sure the neighbors love the fumes. ; )
Beware - it will strip the sulfate off of the plates, yes, but that sulfate has to go somewhere. It’ll pile up at the bottom of each cell and cause problems if agitated - and car batteries don’t really sit still.
The sulfides are dissolved back into the electrolytes. 😂
Where did you learn this trick? How much did the welder cost?
The welder cost $150. Any DC capable welder will work
Learned this from a mechanic when I was broke l…my battery died and I didn’t have the money for a new one so he boiled an oil dead one for me.
@@thestateofreal2533 That's interesting. Saving you only ONE battery purchase makes the welder basically "free" for all future uses.
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See, I imagined this as military lore, how to survive when beyond the help of supply lines. That's why I asked, instead of assuming. Thanks.
@@borderlineiq EXACTLY!
If you have ever had a battery blow up, you would know just how much danger this man is in😂
What amazed me the most is he revived a autocraft battery using $100 worth of electricity and electrolytes and that battery going to die in a few weeks instead of buying a new one that will last a couple of years at least
To anyone wanting to do this: If you do this it has to be in a ventilated area and you might want a respirator...
That may be open air but I'm still not standing withing 20 feet of that actual poison gas 💀
Mistake 1. Sitting on concrete
Mistake 2. Ventilation
Mistake 3. Not putting it in a plastic tub.
Mistake 4. Batteries can go boom!
Mistake 5. Distance your power source.
Mistake 7. Putting up this video!
I worked at a hybrid/electric car shop for some time and we would refresh old 12v starting batteries for people who couldn’t afford new ones. We had a whole setup for it with a ventilated “safety” box in case the batteries exploded. I put a dry cell battery on it one day just for fun and that sucker exploded like no one’s business. Probably would have sent it’s top through the roof if it wasn’t in the safety box 😂😂😂
Back in the 70's i was delivering to a department store,,i was still in the bunk getting up and i smelled batteries cooking,jumped out and when to pull the battery box off and they blew up,i ran thru the store trying to find a sink someone grabbed me and started running,,i was soaked from head to toe and my socks left bleached foot prints on the floor for as long as i worked for them and they had tobthrow out all the new clothes on the racks i bumped into cuz people brought them home and after washing they fell apart from the acid,oh and that guy saying 12.4 volts is dead,a 12 volt battery is 13.6 volts,
Seriously any one wanna speak on the fact that this man has hooked a stick welder to a car battery 🔋 👨🏭
This works - although be aware of the trade offs. Please spend your money on new batteries if you feel uncomfortable or lack the necessary skills to do this. For me, my opportunity cost is too high and i have the money to buy new whenever i need to so i buy Interstate. But unless you have an ample supply of money, its worthwhile to educate yourself about techniques like this.
Old blind Sam says " don't try this at home kids "
$100 bucks for a new battery looks like cheap life insurance to me...
And guys if you do this make sure you're in a small confined room with all the doors and windows closed and also you want to put sea salt in the battery prior to this as well
Friend of mine, 19 years old, who would refurbish old batteries, had his head blown off 6 years ago pulling it from his demolition derby car. RIP Jake....... There is a reason people don't do this. Just buy a new battery, people. Life is short enough.
Dude did a controlled thermal runaway.
Yup, just spend a thousand or more dollars on a TIG welder and run your power bill into the stratosphere, to save that 100 or 200 dollars you'd spend on a battery with full capacity. Take that, Big Battery!
Don’t listen to the hate it’s not stupid if it works men were made to do risky things
As a chem major let me tell you: DO NOT BOIL H2SO4 - IT IS INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS
I promise you, one spark, and it will go BOOM 💥😂
200 dollars vs lead poisoning… seems about right
About as safe as me making my own lead fishing weights
Looks safe! Lol. Dont be cheap people. One spark when connecting or disconnection and boom!
I wonder how buddy’s lungs felt when he went to bed that night
Get a new battery they don’t make anything like they used too anymore sometimes but not often made 🇺🇸 ❤