Sweden's KSP-58 Machine Guns In Ukraine

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ย. 2022
  • Over the past few months there have been a number of sightings of a relatively rare FN MAG variant in the field in Ukraine. The KSP-58B has been seen in use with Ukrainian Armed forces since September, in this video we take a brief look at the KSP-58B's features, history and look at who transferred the guns to Ukraine.
    Be sure to check out our accompanying article for this video here -
    armourersbench.com/2022/11/07...
    Thank you to Kaiser & Yuri for their help with this video, check them out:
    / frontline_view_kaiser
    / nucking_futs_yuri
    If you enjoy our work please consider supporting us via Patreon, TAB is a viewer supported channel and any help is very much appreciated! We have some great new perks, check out our Patreon page here: / thearmourersbench
    You can also now support us with one-time donations via ko-fi.com/armourersbench
    Ever wished all the best gun history content creators were gathered in one place? Check out - surplused.com - we're on there!
    Where to find TAB:
    armourersbench.com
    / armourersbench
    ko-fi.com/armourersbench
    / thearmourersbench
    / armourersbench
    utreon.com/c/Armourers-Bench
    imgur.com/user/ArmourersBench
    / discord
  • บันเทิง

ความคิดเห็น • 508

  • @TheArmourersBench
    @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Hey guys thanks for watching! Sorry the video is a day late but Yuri sent me some more video over the weekend and I will always include more video if I can! Check out the accompanying blog here: armourersbench.com/2022/11/07/swedens-ksp-58-machine-guns-in-ukraine/ -Matt

    • @Goat-vy2bi
      @Goat-vy2bi ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Swedish government are gonna send more for about 400 million dollars

    • @DEATH-THE-GOAT
      @DEATH-THE-GOAT ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Goat-vy2bi and that's a good thing?

    • @DEATH-THE-GOAT
      @DEATH-THE-GOAT ปีที่แล้ว

      You seams to have very interesting content, I've subscribed 😃👍

    • @Goat-vy2bi
      @Goat-vy2bi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DEATH-THE-GOAT i dont really care if im honest.

    • @DEATH-THE-GOAT
      @DEATH-THE-GOAT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Goat-vy2bi just an other black hole to fill with the taxpayers money

  • @6aeus
    @6aeus ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Belgian design, swedish make, ukrainian use. But the intended target has always been the same.

    • @baxiboi2054
      @baxiboi2054 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Hell yeah

    • @petter5721
      @petter5721 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      KSPn den spyr ut död, målar snön omkring oss röd 👊🏻
      När vi genom Ryssland drar, ryska barn blir utan far.

    • @urbankotto9685
      @urbankotto9685 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes,barrel pointed at the enemy.

    • @Menethorable
      @Menethorable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great comment. I will steal this comment from you, friend. 😊

  • @awmperry
    @awmperry ปีที่แล้ว +371

    Best pronunciation of Swedish words I’ve heard yet from an anglophone commentator - well done!

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Thank you, very relieved to hear that haha. Thanks for watching!

    • @felldin
      @felldin ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Especially "pansarskott", that one was spot on.

    • @yeahbee8237
      @yeahbee8237 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@felldin and Eskilstuna

    • @nazi0zombie
      @nazi0zombie ปีที่แล้ว +4

      was thinking exact same thing

    • @nazi0zombie
      @nazi0zombie ปีที่แล้ว +13

      the word pjäs was spot on, a very difficult word for non natives

  • @AdurianJ
    @AdurianJ ปีที่แล้ว +32

    It was Sweden that initiated the development of the FN MAG when sweden asked FN to develop a belt fed machinegun based on the BAR.
    The FN Mag is basically an inverted BAR.
    I asked the armorers at my local regiment last year and they said the 6,5mm barrels dissapeared 20 years ago.

    • @user-ku4yh4xc9s
      @user-ku4yh4xc9s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sweden even had actual beltfed BAR´s.

  • @johnnilss
    @johnnilss ปีที่แล้ว +125

    It's been over 20 years since I fired one of those, but watching that photage my hand could still feel the burn from absentmindedly grabbing the hot barrel during a barrel change.

    • @ibuprofen_
      @ibuprofen_ ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Same, or self discharging rounds due to overheated barrel so I had to twitch the belt to stop so I could swap barrel, full send

    • @WindowsCostumize
      @WindowsCostumize ปีที่แล้ว +8

      grön tjänsten 83 - 84 god time :)

    • @zoiders
      @zoiders ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ibuprofen_ It's an open bolt gun.

    • @krippkripp3138
      @krippkripp3138 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zoidersit's possible for the round to get stuck in the barrel during malfunctions

    • @Peter-ri9ie
      @Peter-ri9ie ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh man, same, only 35 years ago…

  • @Theshrimpification
    @Theshrimpification ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Some of the guns shown in this video are definitely 100% Swedish origin. At 2:02 in the video we see a picture with 6 soldiers, a blue wan and a ksp58 on the ground. On the stock of the ksp58 you can see a white marking with some small black text on it. That is the Swedish tejp used to show when the last time it had a checked thoroughly by a army gunsmiths before going into storage. I wears of quite quick so it is directly from Sweden.

  • @kapten-awesome
    @kapten-awesome ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Your swedish pronunciation is actually really good. Sounds like someone that is a native English speaker but can speak Swedish fluently, I'm Really impressed!

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you. I wish I could speak Swedish fluently! Thanks for watching.

  • @thegael1996
    @thegael1996 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Imagine in an alternate time line the Swedes would adopt both the FN MAG and G3 in 6.5 Swedish.

    • @nzxt1234
      @nzxt1234 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They almost did, they makde a fewTrial rifle FN FAL AND G3 in 6,5x55 swedish tobad it dint happen

    • @charlieswede3829
      @charlieswede3829 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@nzxt1234 We had plenty of FN MAG 6,5X55 in the Swedish Airforce when I was a youth cadet and conscript there. This is in the early to late 1980s ;-)

    • @darkiee69
      @darkiee69 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The original KSP58 was in 6,5*55. The B variant is in 7,62.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The thing is, the G3 didn't work as well rechambered in the 6.5×55mm iirc.
      (The 6.5×55mm has a slightly larger ammount of powder as a 7.62×51mm with a smaller bullet)

    • @darkiee69
      @darkiee69 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SonsOfLorgar And it's 4mm longer too.

  • @TBlackDouglas
    @TBlackDouglas ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Nice to see the KSP-58 in Ukrainian service. I fired and carried it a lot during my swedish army service back in 1993. Very reliable MG under controlled circumstances, a little less so in field conditions. We sometimes had problems with the belt missfeeding and even complete jams, after "fire & maneuver" drills made us slam the 58 into the ground a little too hard. It's also a fairly heavy gun to carry, almost 12 kg, without accessories. I remember my arms burning in pain after hauling it around for a few hours. May our old trusty 58s bring victory for Ukraine!

    • @magnusjohnsen4806
      @magnusjohnsen4806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KSP-38 is even worse than KSP-58 but was the only machingun that could fit in the old tank Centurion at that time.

    • @DeusMort
      @DeusMort ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jorgenpersson662 Du är väl den första som gått ut och viftat med sovjetflaggan om ryssen kom! Slava Ukraini! Död åt ryssen!

    • @jorgenpersson662
      @jorgenpersson662 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DeusMort Jag vill absolut inte vara på nazisternas sida.
      Det de ukrainska nazisterna har gjort mot den ryska befolkning är fruktansvärt.
      Jag hoppas verkligen att Putin gör processen kort med dessa ukrainska fascistsvin.

    • @gurra63able
      @gurra63able ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jorgenpersson662 Den sidan klyver både hår och sanningen, "DET" har fel till 90-95% och resten är underbyggd fakta samt förvrängningar och bibel citat.
      Har precis sett den, leta själv i nätvärldens arkiv och om du kommer fram till något annat än att Ukraina har större rätt att försvara sin suveränitet samt sin nations gränser än vad Ryssland har rätt att attackera dom/den så har du sett och lärt för lite.

    • @sebastianpereira1577
      @sebastianpereira1577 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jorgenpersson662 Hi there, you are one of two points: - a troll from "Olgino" !🥳 - or a poor, fooled, swedish citizen 😢

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Killing it with the pronunciation! I got to use it quite a lot during my service in the late eighties. We had 7,62 barrels for live firing and 6,5x55 for blanks.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you! Glad in getting them right! Ahh that's interesting. Did bolt's have to be swapped?

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@TheArmourersBench I’m not 100% sure but I think I remember we just swapped the barrels. The 6,5x55 blanks were not just crimped brass but used wood bullets to facilitate feeding. The blank barrels had a muzzle device that made sure the wooden "bullets" got destroyed but the muzzle blast was still no fun at close range.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TheArmourersBench the 7.62×51 and the 6.5×55 cartridges has the same rim and base diameter as well as the same taper towards the neck and a very similiar over all length, so only the barrels was changed.
      And as the army eventually ran out of 6.5mm blanks, they just got the production switched to 7.62mm hollow wood bullets and retired the 6.5mm barrels.
      The same blank firing desintegrator muzzle device screws onto the flash hider threads and so didn't need redesign either, and when the G3 was adopted as the Ak4, a blank firing desintegrator muzzle device was designed for it.
      The 5.56 FN weapons also got desintegrator muzzle devices.
      The kpist m/45 however, used plastic bullet blanks and it's 2.5mm 'parlor ammo barrel' with a desintegrator device.
      The 2.5mm barrel without the desintegrator muzzle cap was designed to use tiny rounds where the casing was the percussion cap but zeroed so that a 15cm target at 10m equated a 6ft target at 100m.

    • @XtreeM_FaiL
      @XtreeM_FaiL ปีที่แล้ว

      @ Its main job is to ensure enough gas pressure, so the weapon will cycle.
      Btw. In this video ammoboxes are not mounted on the weapon. Why is that? Is there no mount for them?

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@XtreeM_FaiL Not for the boxes but there was a cloth pouch for a 50 round belt segment that attached to the side.

  • @BorisJonsson
    @BorisJonsson ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I was also a Ksp shooter in the swedish army, it was a hell of a gun 👍

  • @darkiee69
    @darkiee69 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Sweden was THE first adopter of the FN-MAG. Sweden tried to make their own machine gun using a upside down Browning BAR but never really got it to work. So they approached FN with their idea and FNs engineers and technicians got the idea to work.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว +6

      By mating it with the feed system and steel belt of the MG42/MG1

    • @sida9439
      @sida9439 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      we have been first with alot of things, first with barret m82 for example, we also was first with the pansarskott m86 and carl gustaf m48 recoilless rifle (at4 and cg 84mm recoilless rifle) as it was created in sweden.

    • @zoiders
      @zoiders ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First along with Britain.

    • @sida9439
      @sida9439 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zoiders u sure about that? Didnt britain get it 1961? Sweden got it 1958

    • @datadavis
      @datadavis ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fight smarter, not harder doctrine 🤔🪖

  • @TheBenghaziRabbit
    @TheBenghaziRabbit ปีที่แล้ว +28

    that wooden stock is pretty good looking

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They looks great don't they

    • @mastathrash5609
      @mastathrash5609 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They always do

    • @JaykPuten
      @JaykPuten ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn't they switch to plastic or polymer for the same reasons Russia did with the new AKs? Because it's easier to decontaminate?
      Though it could just be cheaper to make the stocks out of polymer nowadays...
      But man nothing beats wood stocks...
      Even like custom ones on m16s/(ar15 clones) and so many other firearms like mp5s and even putting them on newer shotguns just to have that cool look..
      It's especially cool on newer weapons when it gives that retro future look...

    • @scepticalwalker3984
      @scepticalwalker3984 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JaykPuten Sweden did switch to a modernized version with plastic stock and picatinny rail (Ksp 58F). It is significantly lighter. But many Ksp 58B with wooden stocks and iron sights remain in service, and in storage.

    • @JaykPuten
      @JaykPuten ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@scepticalwalker3984 thanks for the info, of course pic rails would be added, I don't know why I didn't even think about that...

  • @muskett4108
    @muskett4108 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Carried one for a couple of years a long time ago. Use the sling correctly then firing from the hip is easy enough and stable. More than able to sweep an area with in urban combat.
    Sling over the head horizontal. Right arm goes through around and under, locked when the hand grips the pistol grip. Getting the sling the right length is key. Use a short belt of ammo.
    Bit like how the Bren was carried.

  • @arturslunga4226
    @arturslunga4226 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Never thought I would hear that sound again.... great to see these weapons coming to good use

  • @anderssigeklint8739
    @anderssigeklint8739 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I can not take any glory myself because I have done nothing but i am proud as a swedish man to know that my nation helped Ukraine with those stuffs. Gretings from Sweden.

  • @axlfrhalo
    @axlfrhalo ปีที่แล้ว +7

    excellent pronunciation of Eskilstuna!

  • @mr.c.3760
    @mr.c.3760 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    absolutely fantastic, always love seeing this

  • @Thetequilashooter1
    @Thetequilashooter1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you Sweden for helping Ukraine! Much respect and admiration from 🇺🇸

  • @andersholmstrom3571
    @andersholmstrom3571 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nice to see that machine gun.
    I learned to use that gun during my military service 1980-1981.

  • @Rumpel99
    @Rumpel99 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Neat "updated" video as always.

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Finally our KSP58:s get to shoot at the great enemy 🥳✊🏻

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Would have been better if Putin hadn't forced that to happen though, the mad bastard.

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@SonsOfLorgar of course

  • @nissafors
    @nissafors ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Heja Sverige and Slava Ukraini! Greetings from Sweden

  • @benjamintan9996
    @benjamintan9996 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Another weapon you could cover is the MATADOR/RGW-90 anti armour weapon.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh absolutely, I've a folder full of sightings of it in the field that I've been collecting. It's just being able to get to everything I want to cover!!

  • @Oddball_E8
    @Oddball_E8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ah, the proud old Ksp 58... everybody loves it, except the guy who carries it :P
    My cousins son carried one during his service and he hated it immensely... until he was firing it, and then he loved it... but went back to hating it when he had to carry it back to base again :P

    • @henrikdahlberg878
      @henrikdahlberg878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and the ones cleaning it, especially after using the red wooden training rounds (I was told).

  • @Joakim.Bengtsson
    @Joakim.Bengtsson ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you add a tracer round every three rounds it is easier to see where you hit. (probably easier to be spotted as well though)

  • @stimpen12
    @stimpen12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hope they come in good use! Greetings from Sweden!

  • @wood_louse119
    @wood_louse119 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    KSP aka kulspruta is translated to bullet sprayer. we have some weird names for our stuff but it works :)

  • @neilwilson5785
    @neilwilson5785 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's that classic FN MG. Very effective and reliable.

  • @kronblom3214
    @kronblom3214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video man!

  • @byggloket2590
    @byggloket2590 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My hometown is Eskilstuna🇸🇪🌲🤓
    You couldnt have pronunced it better

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for letting me know, appreciate it! Thanks for watching!

  • @stuartbennett7614
    @stuartbennett7614 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    God bless the gpmg the finest support weapon in use

  • @RocketSailing
    @RocketSailing ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I used the KSP 58 in my time in the Swedish army.
    The user is using it correctly with intermittent bursts.
    Though I cant se he used the second barrel, Thats used to be quick shift. To let the the hot barrel cool down. That ways, you can have continued fire for a very long time.

    • @azkrouzreimertz9784
      @azkrouzreimertz9784 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you use the "En stor stark" method?

    • @RocketSailing
      @RocketSailing ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@azkrouzreimertz9784 😂 No, But remember that when being in the wood or mountains for week on end. Not seeing a civilian life. Id sure felt could have one. 😂

    • @AK-qy5iw
      @AK-qy5iw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Used it in Estonia myself too. Nice gun but my heart belongs to MG3 still.

    • @RocketSailing
      @RocketSailing ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AK-qy5iw Its a bit heavy for offensive work. But a defensive beast. A loader/spotter, every 3-5 round being fosfor for help aiming. It can keep going for days

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@AK-qy5iw that's a fair exchange 😂

  • @villon89
    @villon89 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Funny thing here is, the ksp58s in the videos uses dissintegrating links for the ammo, as of we never had that in sweden for the ksp58. we have a metalllink contating 50 rounds, that can be fitted to one another.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was wondering this Andreas, thanks!

    • @Oddball_E8
      @Oddball_E8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most likely the Ksp 58's were just supplied without the ammo. They're getting plenty of ammo from other sources.

    • @villon89
      @villon89 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Oddball_E8 but then you have to modify them, cus you cant just use what you feel like.

    • @KK-xz4rk
      @KK-xz4rk ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet dissintegrating links come from American aid. Original reloadable Swedish or Danish links are included but they are pretty labor intensive to reload without reloading tool. Because Americans supply huge amounts of small arms ammo and they use preloaded dissintegrating links i think nobody bothers to reload original belts. There is also no modification needed to change from one to another. Both feed the same.

    • @Oddball_E8
      @Oddball_E8 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@villon89 Sure, but there's already the Ksp 58 C2, which is set up to use disintegrating belts, so it's not a big deal and they might actually have gotten those. They look pretty much identical to the B.

  • @javiermartinezjr8849
    @javiermartinezjr8849 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scar 556 next to a swedish fn with a wooden stock.... Talk about a killer load out

  • @petter5721
    @petter5721 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    KSP58 in 6,5mm Swe was a dream to shoot 👍🏻

  • @rogueelement9986
    @rogueelement9986 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A world class gpmg, do good work with them!👍

  • @jonbroadsword7572
    @jonbroadsword7572 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Beautiful woodwork, I think I saw that buttstock on sale at IKEA. 😁

  • @dereckjtbear2175
    @dereckjtbear2175 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks very similar to what I was trained on in the 1980s, Known as a LMG 7.62.. It has a nice punch as support weapon .

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s all just different variations of the FN MAG.

  • @FullOilBarrel
    @FullOilBarrel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video

  • @hedning003
    @hedning003 ปีที่แล้ว

    ooooh-i used the 58 when i did my militarytraining..this brings backs memories,steelsight at 700 yard on half-figures, no problem,very good weapon whit barrels that can be changed in a copule of secounds..so not to overheat the barrel- just dont drop the hot one in snow😅

  • @VW25
    @VW25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😁 they even got my boy out there damn, really looking in the corner of the armoury shii, I hope they find a way to mount a sight could really do with one

  • @molonlabe9068
    @molonlabe9068 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This machine gun is very similar to the machine gun I had when I served in the Dutch army! That was an FN MAG machine gun, automatic, air-cooled, light machine gun. Caliber: 7.62×51mm.

  • @josephpacchetti5997
    @josephpacchetti5997 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seems to be an effective SAW, the cyclic-rate, It's not too fast or too slow, a manageable weapon, thanks for posting. 👍

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's up there on par with the PKM the worlds best GPMGs atm.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really too heavy for the SAW role, that's why the Minimi/M249 exists.

  • @eckasas
    @eckasas ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great machinegun.. carried it for 8 years.

  • @BIG-DIPPER-56
    @BIG-DIPPER-56 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very Good - Thanks ! ! !
    🙂😎👍

  • @badcam70
    @badcam70 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a beast with that thing , we had one in every PBV302 as a mech inf unit , 200 rounds then change the barrel it just hissed when you throw it in the snow.
    We had 4 barrels 2-6.5 and 2-7.62 mm for each KSP , 2 boxes and the 2 cassettes with 50 rounds each , should be in every big wooden box.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Love hearing about how they are used. Thanks.

    • @Hiznogood
      @Hiznogood ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Remember having one jury rigged on the roof of our all terrain vehicles on a training exercise where would act as an invading force from the beach simulated foreign BMP’s. I was issued a lot of blanks and happily used them all. Man that gun was filthy after that and I wasn’t equally thrilled when I have to clean it out in the field later that evening.
      A side note, we where allowed to dress up in other non Swedish military equipment as we where the “baddies” and even fix up our rides a bit. We used masking tape and taped U137 and a Soviet Hammer and Sickle (a Soviet Uboat had mysteriously ran aground in Swedish military waters just recently). Well … our officers was that thrilled as we supposed to be neutral and all so we had to remove that! Funny sh1t anyways!

    • @badcam70
      @badcam70 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Instruction was two fire in 10-15 round bursts , boxes could 200 rounds , cassettes with 50 rounds was used in dismounted combat advancing into object , three ksp58 and three CG 84mm AT weapon in each platoon.

    • @annabackman3028
      @annabackman3028 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@HiznogoodThe story about using tape and "change" identity made me think of the Swedish movie 'Repmånad'. ("Rep month" a humorous, very "Swedish" classic movie from 1979.) Repetition for middle aged conscripts in peacetime. The scene is that it's an exercise, and they are defending the country, Sweden.
      A "The bridge is blown up" sign is put up on a small bridge, when "our" guys came in a truck. They decide to neglect the sign, but are stopped by a guard. A discussion about how the bridge could be "blown up" when it obviously was there occurred, the guard argued that they couldn't tear down everything in civilian areas, just because it was "make believe" hit in the exercise. Our friends turn around and drive away. The guy who always thinks outside the box gets an idea.
      After a while you can watch the truck driving towards the bridge again. Now with the word "HELIKOPTER" written on the side.
      If you can play 'make believe", so can we!
      Lasse Åberg, the writer of the movie, also acting, is a genius in his genre. (This is one of a series of films, but the following ones have another main character, with the same personality, probably based on how Lasse Åberg in some situations sees himself (I don't think he IS like that!), shy and awkward, still living with his mom, and extremely shy with women. This is the foundation of the humor in the movies, and other characters also pushed a little, being on the edge of parody, but so well balanced it rarely falls into that trap.
      This was TOTALLY out of context, but I couldn't get the sight of the truck with "HELIKOPTER" written on it out of my head!
      I believe every Swedish person reading this is smiling, absolutely not about my writing here, but thinking about the movie!

  • @b.benjamineriksson6030
    @b.benjamineriksson6030 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For some reason I think that gun is enchanting.

  • @crissdiamond1907
    @crissdiamond1907 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great gun…easy to use and it’s possible to chose your own fire rate with a “volume button” on the gas system under the barrel(7.62x51 NATO)👍🏻👍🏻😊

  • @meanmanturbo
    @meanmanturbo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:18 That one looks like it still has the yellow instruction text sticker on how to load it on the butt stock. Don't think the Balitcs put on their own text, and keeping the Swedish text on seems unlikely.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a good point, difficult to know. Perhaps service people from the Baltic will let us know.

  • @tominva4121
    @tominva4121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be interesting to get their comparative judgements on the various MAG58s variants, MG3s variants, and the Russian MGs.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It really would! Hopefully something we can do.

  • @D0P1C3
    @D0P1C3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey i did watch video with M249 saw or at least it seems to looks like one but quality was not great do you have any info about it use?

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, they're definitely in use and largely in the hands of Ukrainian Special Operations units. I'll have a video on them and the other 5.56×45mm in use hopefully soon! Thanks for watching.

  • @hultaelit
    @hultaelit ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely nailed the Swedish pronunciations, good job!

  • @ipanzerschrecku4732
    @ipanzerschrecku4732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the clip while loading he lets the bolt forward, anyone know if the bolt needs to be to the rear or the KSP-58 is upgraded with a spring loaded roller (like an M240) or flexible roller guide rail?

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Afaik, the bolt needs to be retracted on the Ksp58 as it's the first FN MAGs that were ever adopted however, the bolt handle is non reciprocating and not spring loaded, so what he does is that he retracts the bolt and then pushes the handle to it's spring latch retained forward position, the bolt stays retracted.
      The first few dozen of the ksp58s were made in Liege, the rest was licence built in Eskilstuna, freeing up FNs factories to fulfil their national obligations to the Belgian army.

  • @pepedeltoro6647
    @pepedeltoro6647 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video and good pronunciation :D

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, great to hear I got them close haha. Thanks for watching.

  • @pernykvist3442
    @pernykvist3442 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder if we geting new machineguns
    to replace them? As we replaced RBS15?

  • @martinlund9524
    @martinlund9524 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The word " Kulspruta" Is maybe a easy way to say "bullet spray" A Gun that is spraying bullets (fast).
    I think that these KSP-58B maybe from the old scrapped S-tank They did have 2 or 3 mounted inside that was able to demount and fit whit the wooden stock.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว

      Two coaxial plus one on the commanders manually remote controlled hatch mount, so one Ksp58 for each crewman! 🤣

    • @b.benjamineriksson6030
      @b.benjamineriksson6030 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bullet-sprayer more like

  • @kingwacky184
    @kingwacky184 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sweden have also sent thousands of body armor and helmets and will be sending the Ukrainians winter uniforms. cold weather clothing.

  • @LCE1313
    @LCE1313 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To convert the FN MAG/M240 into the 277 caliber, do you just need to change the barrel?

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Given the case diameter is the same as 7.62×51 it probably will be. Might be some tweaks to the gas system needed.

  • @jic1
    @jic1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How interchangeable are the components with other FN-MAG variants? For example, if your KSP-58 needs a barrel change, and all you have are M240 barrels (or vice-versa), will they work?

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Great question, I'm not sure how close the Swedish factory stuck to the original TDP for the MAG I'm afraid. I'd be surprised if there wasn't interchangeability.

    • @erinil0905
      @erinil0905 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@TheArmourersBench Hi, guy currently serving in the Swedish armed forces and gun nut here, they are identical to the original TDP, the first batches of KSP 58 that the army got in the beginning were actually produced by FN while we got our production line up and running and have parts interchangeability with the originals as well with other FN MAG's. the only thing that wont be interchangeable between a lot of the MAG variants are the individual parts of the gas regulators, since for example the KSP 58 have a 8 setting one and the original M240 only had one so on....
      But what to be on the lookout for are the feed trays, as you can see in some of the clips the KSP 58 uses (to this day) Semi- disintegrating belts (DM 1 Belts) and requires a new feed tray to be able to reliably use M13 disintegrating belts. as you can see at 3:29 the feed tray is black, which means that is a upgraded one since no original KSP 58 feed tray are black, they are all silver. feel free to contact me if you have any more questions about Swedish equipment.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks so much for the clarification, great insights. Very much appreciated.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​​@@erinil0905 In homeguard exercises, my former unit was occationally issued NATO factory belted m13 linked ammo in 250rnd cardboard boxes left over after multi-national exercises, and as far as I could see, our Ksp58Bs ate those up just as reliably as they ate up the well used 49+1 round modular DM1 belts...

    • @erinil0905
      @erinil0905 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SonsOfLorgar yeah it works, but there is an greater risk that the empty M13 links get stuck, I've used M13 links and they do work, I'm not saying that they don't. But the feed trays have different geometries for a reason and that is increased reliability.

  • @frankandersson7112
    @frankandersson7112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good video/chanel & (likable) voice 2.
    And U'r swedish is ok......
    -Keep ot up!

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh thanks Frank! Appreciate the feedback, thanks for watching.

  • @nickeooo
    @nickeooo ปีที่แล้ว

    i loved using this ksp.

  • @terrynewsome6698
    @terrynewsome6698 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you do a video on the polish grom in Ukraine

  • @AeroH0lic
    @AeroH0lic ปีที่แล้ว

    These machine guns use the M13 link and the swedish KSP58/B uses a belt with 49 cartridges, (i think its equivalent to DM1). I don’t think the Swedish Armed Forces would modify them to feed M13 link before shipping them, so that points towards a Baltic state.

    • @Glatidoz
      @Glatidoz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can use both types of links and it would still operate.

  • @Niinsa62
    @Niinsa62 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You mention Sweden was an early adopter of the FN MAG. Actually, we were the first adopter, and we were the ones who asked FN to design this. We had the BAR, the Browning Automatic Rifle. But that one used mags, it wasn't belt fed. We wanted a belt fed BAR. So FN, who had the European rights for Browning designs, was asked to make a belt fed BAR for us, which they did - the KSP 58! Then FN figured that hey, this gun actually seems nice, maybe we could sell this to other customers. And the rest is history, as they say.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a story for another video for sure. Thanks for watching.

  • @rudolfabelin383
    @rudolfabelin383 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shot a lot with the Kulspruta 58!
    Greetings from Sweden.

  • @Charkel
    @Charkel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pansarskott = Armour round
    Kulspruta / KulSprutePistol / KSP = Bullet sprayer (Machine gun)

  • @gertlarsson9285
    @gertlarsson9285 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful weapon. I was assign to one in the military

  • @XtreeM_FaiL
    @XtreeM_FaiL ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there no ammobox mount on that MG?

  • @hanssjostrand6265
    @hanssjostrand6265 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is not KSP 58 in the first movie, the band is linked of, Swedish LMPG band is not linked off after firing..and thats it...

  • @Jimbotheone
    @Jimbotheone ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprised to not see any slings on those ksp58's. I would never use one without it. Especially when firing from the hip lol, because you're supposed to use the carry handle to push down while firing, else you won't hit anything!

  • @xwing8029
    @xwing8029 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is accurate machinegun. I shot one and hit targets up to 400 meters, though i dont have any special training. Also from my experience i can tell that you need to stick velcro fully around your sleeves when shooting, because those hot cases will burn your skin really bad if they fly inside.

  • @BerraLilltroll
    @BerraLilltroll ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Barrel is replaceable. Two are brought to mitigate overheating.

  • @Crytica.
    @Crytica. ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What an interesting sound it makes. I only ever heard it mentioned but never seen or heard it. Quite interesting to see it now on the battlefields in Ukraine. Hope it will serve the UAF well!

  • @geranmannberg
    @geranmannberg ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hopefully Sweden is sending Archer artillery system soon

  • @lars6849
    @lars6849 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had so much fun with that gun in army

  • @skoldmo762
    @skoldmo762 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Finally someone who can pronounce the language.

  • @danielandersson7485
    @danielandersson7485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love seeing our guns fighting the good fight

  • @ericwedin4154
    @ericwedin4154 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ksp-36 is the real thing. Watercooled, can be fired all day long. Ksp-58 has to switch barrel after 250 rounds due to the risk of overheating, if I remember correctly. The gun usually came with to barrels so that you can switch back and forth

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck lugging a water cooled gun around.

  • @fellowsound1241
    @fellowsound1241 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good someone use this old machinery

  • @ValiduzZ
    @ValiduzZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    KSP-58 literally means "Bulletsprayer 58."
    I mean. It does paint an image doesn't it.

  • @joemorganeatmyshortschannel
    @joemorganeatmyshortschannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love all theses

  • @user-sk2bz2nr4f
    @user-sk2bz2nr4f ปีที่แล้ว +1

    those Swedish KSP 58 i shot with did not split up the feeding belt look at 3:55

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, interesting isn't it, someone with personal experience might be able to enlighten on that.

    • @scepticalwalker3984
      @scepticalwalker3984 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They can fire both types of belt

  • @lucasfff1370
    @lucasfff1370 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 4:40 can anyone tell me what the red and transparent lenses are for on the soldiers helmet? I have seen it on helmets of the Netherlands army as well sometimes

    • @lumberjackpanda3865
      @lumberjackpanda3865 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Laser recivers to know if you have been hit during traning

  • @rostyslavadamchuk3300
    @rostyslavadamchuk3300 ปีที่แล้ว

    A brand-new!!! KSP!!! never used!!! directly from 50th, I mean 1950's))), that does bring sertaine level of comfort in the tranches!!!

  • @looduselaps
    @looduselaps ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as estonian i have used, cleaned and maintained the ksp-58 its a good mg. but i would prefer mg3, nothing can beat the germans in their own "game"

  • @majorleaguegames9129
    @majorleaguegames9129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    incredibly similar to the Canadian C6 GPMG

  • @CyberWar666
    @CyberWar666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spent ten years in the army shooting this thing. Nice to see the good ol' KSP finally put to its designed use of reducing Ivan population.

  • @EpicThe112
    @EpicThe112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since the Ukrainian Military uses the FN MAG in both M240 & KSP-58 versions can the barrels of M240 fit in the KSP-58 Swedish version of M240B or not? Another thing that the Ukrainians can do is ask FN to see if they can make a 7.62x54R FN MAG

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The barrels can be used yes, some differences with the components of the gas system according to a servicing Swedish soldier. NATO would prefer to see Ukraine move towards using NATO standard calibres so they'll probably leave the 54R for the large numbers of PKs and PKMs they have.

    • @EpicThe112
      @EpicThe112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheArmourersBench Thanks for the Information if Ukraine does adapt NATO 5.56 & 7.62x51 cartridges we would have seen a UK SAS SBS French GIGN German KSK and US Delta Force Navy Seals Marine Recon special Forces soldier use a Malyuk in 5.56x45 with the donor rifle being a Polish or Bulgarian 5.56x45mm AK.

    • @Faltrollet
      @Faltrollet ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheArmourersBench For 7.62x54R conversion it would require to many parts to be changed. For an example 54R is rimmed, so new bolt and feedtray and so on it would be simpler to buy either PKM/PKPs or to just buy more 7.62x51.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry, sorry I thought I'd read 7.62×51! You're quite right Falttrollet.

  • @Snuschips
    @Snuschips ปีที่แล้ว

    It's weird to see a KSP-58 shooting with disintegrating links. Looks so comfortable😅

  • @andrewsteele7663
    @andrewsteele7663 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again, brilliant video. We had them as the MAG58 for a number of years until the M240 came into service. I could hear the cheers when they took the 58 off the gunners as they do have a bit of weight in them.

    • @zoiders
      @zoiders ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The American 240B is a FN MAG 58. It also weighs more than the MAG 58. Same gun.

  • @wilhelmh9495
    @wilhelmh9495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve shot about 4 billion shots with that. Fun gun to shot. Whatch out for an overheated barrel.

  • @johanspennare5974
    @johanspennare5974 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! "En stor stark" Bursts please.

  • @kirgan1000
    @kirgan1000 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    KSP-58: Yes, point me toward the Russian invaders, let me fulfill my purpose.

  • @AlbinHulden
    @AlbinHulden 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ksp-58 is stil in use in the Swedish military! why? we dont look for a Buzz sawmachine gun! we want a relaibillity and accurate ! short busts with high accurate! Ksp-58 is fantastic! I did natiol service as special forces as Lappland ranger! in Sweden when I was 18 til 20!

  • @tonyv8925
    @tonyv8925 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this video. Equipment flowing into Ukraine reminds me of the Israeli war of independence and the 1967 war. So many different systems and calibers. This must be a logistical nightmare for Ukrainian Department of Defense supply. Wow...

  • @zoom5024
    @zoom5024 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also Swedish defence partnered with Finland is looking to replace all it's machine guns and sniper rifles and the AK5. And have the process started by atleast 2024

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, certainly something I'm tracking. Big project.

    • @zoom5024
      @zoom5024 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Deadpoppin What makes you belive that?

  • @DanBergmanSE
    @DanBergmanSE ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They aren't standard KSP58B's as we don't use disintegrating link belt.. the feedtray needs to be modified/changed.. Sweden was also the first user , we tried to make a belt fed machinegun but had issues so Sweden asked FN for "help"..

  • @jeriksson7686
    @jeriksson7686 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice to see Swedish weapons making a difference 👍
    Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦

  • @ares9304
    @ares9304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These were most likely from the baltic states. A friend of mine, who unfortunately fell in battle in april, had been equipped with the swedish kulsprutepistol m/45 (Swedish-K) with estonian markings on the case and wooden grip.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have seen photos of a couple of those, very interesting to see those pop up. Sorry to hear about your friend.