Thanks for the awesome video! We are a couple of old school DAWless musicians and love the simplicity and quality of dawless multi track recorders. And even though we live in different states, we are able to create music together using two TASCAM DP-32's, by sending SD cards back and forth while we each add our own contributions to the song we are working on. We do it for fun and upload our albums to our TH-cam channel. The TASCAM's sound great, and are extremely versatile and allow us to use it like a simple reel to reel recorder or delve into the myriad of internal effects and features, and it works great either way.
Love this video. I started out on a reel to reel two track and then went to cassette Tascam 4 track. Now I use a daw and it’s not nearly as fun. Maybe I need to get back to the basics. I love Band in a box as well and use it to create tracks for my original songs. Going to check out more of your videos. Mike at Creative Sauce is awesome. Thanks for these thoughts on music creation. This old guy appreciates your point of view.
There are definitely pros and cons of both. I like simplicity. I want my brain power concentrated on music. Even some of the multi track hardware is too complicated for me.
I've built myself a small studio with an old console and some outboard gear. Yes probably not needed but when i went back and forth against plugins, my hardware was quicker to dial in and sounded great everywhere. So this has prompted me to want to do away with a DAW as much as possible. Too much time staring at the screen, too many options, zoom in/out etc. Too much power to then screw up all your phase by trying to move stuff around. Then time align features robs the music of sounding unique. the trick is using a DAW like a tape machine and just starting and stopping it but lately i really want to get a digital stand alone 16-24 track recorder and pump my mixes or audio through my console, into my converters and then use the recorder for my start/stops and punch ins. Just remove the screen from the equation. I work on a computer most of the day, I think a lot of us do. This is making me want to get away from a monitor screen. Maybe not practical for live large studios but for home recordings or small budget productions, why not. As you said, makes you focus on what you hear, not what you see ( including all the options you know you have at your finger tips)
Hi. The machine in the thumbnail is the Boss BR 80. it is an 8 track digital recorder. made by Roland. Here is a video that I made that features the BR 80 th-cam.com/video/aagVVOoAsMg/w-d-xo.html
I use an external recording device because I have some issues with latency and I haven't really figured out how to use the reverb effects while monitoring live vocal recording in biab. If you have any advice on this topic please feel free to enlighten me. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hi , Brian , I Like your Videos about BITB , do you use BITB for composing songs and How do you proceed ? it could be a Interesting Vidéo , Thank You !!
I agree 100% l used a laptop and DAW spent a good bit of time learning it, Did a fairly good track and the laptop freezes up it just never turned on again, l was so disappointed, smashed it with a hammer, never used PC since that was 6 years ago similar experiences with ipad don’t use a DAW on it only a few synth apps, much prefer my korg triton LE and my ultranova , play guitar mostly for the past 50 years
With a DAW it would be limiting for instance when I record a guitar I record a clean channel and an effects channel at the same time. Not easy to do on a recording device. I would however use a recording device for quickly prototyping ideas though.
I used Ableton and any instrument I record gets captured clean as it comes in through my interface and only the DaW adds the FX within the session and are added when I render at the end but if I look through my library all my recordings are there clean unless l have used an FX chain before my interface.
@@b00ts4ndc4ts I love my DAWless system. I don't feel too limited by it and I can use effects and still record dry and clean. I understand folks also love their DAWs, It's just not for me.
@@Jackdogdude only problem without using a Daw is the quality of the audio once it's been compressed when you upload it to any streaming sites and you will be competing with mastered audio.
It's basic, It's free, It's easy to use and if you are anything like me, you only use it to top and tail and export a mix. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Regards Brian.
I’m a switch, knob and slider man myself! Old school, (old brain🤣😂) old guy🤦♂️ making real music, the proper way! Nothing against DAWers! Whatever rocks your boat, good luck with your choice of recording technique👍 But I’m totally in agreement with you!
At some point you are going to have to use a daw though, or what are you going to do with your tape ? Throw it at the internet and hope it lands on a streaming sight.
I agree 100% l used a laptop and DAW spent a good bit of time learning it, Did a fairly good track and the laptop freezes up it just never turned on again, l was so disappointed, smashed it with a hammer, never used PC since that was 6 years ago similar experiences with ipad don’t use a DAW on it only a few synth apps, much prefer my korg triton LE and my ultranova , play guitar mostly for the past 50 years
I have never had a problem with my Mac. I lots of people don't research how much ram, or what processor works best. For example I first started using Ableton live 4 that only needed 4GB of ram and a quad 4 processor minimum to run. But now because people use lots of plugins more ram is needed. At the moment I use 64GB ram paired with an i9 processor and now because of the plugins as well as my sample library growing, I have a 2TB of storage. The only thing I now think about is the optimum amount of cores needed of processing and more doesn't mean better.
The only thing that concerns me is how the end product sounds. There is always more than one way to reach your goal. I don't concern myself with computer jargon. Neither did the Beatles.
Thanks for the awesome video! We are a couple of old school DAWless musicians and love the simplicity and quality of dawless multi track recorders. And even though we live in different states, we are able to create music together using two TASCAM DP-32's, by sending SD cards back and forth while we each add our own contributions to the song we are working on. We do it for fun and upload our albums to our TH-cam channel.
The TASCAM's sound great, and are extremely versatile and allow us to use it like a simple reel to reel recorder or delve into the myriad of internal effects and features, and it works great either way.
Love this video. I started out on a reel to reel two track and then went to cassette Tascam 4 track. Now I use a daw and it’s not nearly as fun. Maybe I need to get back to the basics. I love Band in a box as well and use it to create tracks for my original songs. Going to check out more of your videos. Mike at Creative Sauce is awesome. Thanks for these thoughts on music creation. This old guy appreciates your point of view.
I highly recommend the Zoom R8. It is simple, cost effective and satisfying to use with BIAB.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
There are definitely pros and cons of both. I like simplicity. I want my brain power concentrated on music. Even some of the multi track hardware is too complicated for me.
I've built myself a small studio with an old console and some outboard gear. Yes probably not needed but when i went back and forth against plugins, my hardware was quicker to dial in and sounded great everywhere. So this has prompted me to want to do away with a DAW as much as possible. Too much time staring at the screen, too many options, zoom in/out etc. Too much power to then screw up all your phase by trying to move stuff around. Then time align features robs the music of sounding unique. the trick is using a DAW like a tape machine and just starting and stopping it but lately i really want to get a digital stand alone 16-24 track recorder and pump my mixes or audio through my console, into my converters and then use the recorder for my start/stops and punch ins. Just remove the screen from the equation. I work on a computer most of the day, I think a lot of us do. This is making me want to get away from a monitor screen. Maybe not practical for live large studios but for home recordings or small budget productions, why not. As you said, makes you focus on what you hear, not what you see ( including all the options you know you have at your finger tips)
Where is the roland cd 2i in the thumbnail at😮 why its not in the video like the zoom 8 & 4😂
Hi. The machine in the thumbnail is the Boss BR 80. it is an 8 track digital recorder. made by Roland. Here is a video that I made that features the BR 80 th-cam.com/video/aagVVOoAsMg/w-d-xo.html
Hi,
This video was very helpful. Question - why don’t you use BIAB to record your vocals? Thanks.
I use an external recording device because I have some issues with latency and I haven't really figured out how to use the reverb effects while monitoring live vocal recording in biab. If you have any advice on this topic please feel free to enlighten me. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hi , Brian , I Like your Videos about BITB , do you use BITB for composing songs and How do you proceed ? it could be a Interesting Vidéo , Thank You !!
I suggest you watch my videos where I explain how I make my songs using Band In A Box.
Thanks for watching.
@@BandInABoxRevealed-ke5tp 😉👍
I agree 100% l used a laptop and DAW spent a good bit of time learning it, Did a fairly good track and the laptop freezes up it just never turned on again, l was so disappointed, smashed it with a hammer, never used PC since that was 6 years ago similar experiences with ipad don’t use a DAW on it only a few synth apps, much prefer my korg triton LE and my ultranova , play guitar mostly for the past 50 years
It feels more organic to record on external devices. Thanks for watching and commenting.
With a DAW it would be limiting for instance when I record a guitar I record a clean channel and an effects channel at the same time. Not easy to do on a recording device. I would however use a recording device for quickly prototyping ideas though.
I have nothing against DAWs, solving problems is part of the fun. Thanks for your comment.
I used Ableton and any instrument I record gets captured clean as it comes in through my interface and only the DaW adds the FX within the session and are added when I render at the end but if I look through my library all my recordings are there clean unless l have used an FX chain before my interface.
@@b00ts4ndc4ts I love my DAWless system. I don't feel too limited by it and I can use effects and still record dry and clean. I understand folks also love their DAWs, It's just not for me.
@@Jackdogdude only problem without using a Daw is the quality of the audio once it's been compressed when you upload it to any streaming sites and you will be competing with mastered audio.
@@b00ts4ndc4ts I always master my recordings but I use an AI app to do it. The tech is very good these days.
I started on an old valve tape recorder, then cassettes. Biggest mistake was going daw. BITB is great though
It sounds like we shared the same recording journey. :)
I can't agree with you more on Audacity.
It's basic, It's free, It's easy to use and if you are anything like me, you only use it to top and tail and export a mix.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Regards
Brian.
👍
I’m a switch, knob and slider man myself!
Old school, (old brain🤣😂) old guy🤦♂️ making real music, the proper way!
Nothing against DAWers!
Whatever rocks your boat, good luck with your choice of recording technique👍
But I’m totally in agreement with you!
Good on you John. I am keen to hear some of your results. Thanks for watching.
At some point you are going to have to use a daw though, or what are you going to do with your tape ? Throw it at the internet and hope it lands on a streaming sight.
Yes I do use a daw to top and tail my songs before or after mastering them via an AI mastering app.
nice work
Thanks for watching Paul. I'm looking forward to recording you again soon. :)
I have no interest in recording in a daw. I like to play the guitar. I don't care what the audience thinks. I don't have an audience.
Not all of us are motivated to become rock stars. I record for my personal satisfaction and to catalogue my songs. Thanks for watching. :)
I agree 100% l used a laptop and DAW spent a good bit of time learning it, Did a fairly good track and the laptop freezes up it just never turned on again, l was so disappointed, smashed it with a hammer, never used PC since that was 6 years ago similar experiences with ipad don’t use a DAW on it only a few synth apps, much prefer my korg triton LE and my ultranova , play guitar mostly for the past 50 years
I have never had a problem with my Mac. I lots of people don't research how much ram, or what processor works best.
For example I first started using Ableton live 4 that only needed 4GB of ram and a quad 4 processor minimum to run. But now because people use lots of plugins more ram is needed.
At the moment I use 64GB ram paired with an i9 processor and now because of the plugins as well as my sample library growing, I have a 2TB of storage.
The only thing I now think about is the optimum amount of cores needed of processing and more doesn't mean better.
The only thing that concerns me is how the end product sounds. There is always more than one way to reach your goal. I don't concern myself with computer jargon. Neither did the Beatles.