I'm actually blown away how good this patch is for me, and that doesnt happen often. Its crazy how the game now utilising cpu's correctly has changed the game entirely. Gone from 40-60fps no matter the settings (even on lowest settings), on my 3700x, to a near locked 60fps, on near max settings with NO upscaling (3700x, 32gb ram, GTX 1080ti). Hopefully other studios take note of this patch.
The thing about Cyberpunk is that even in the true Cyberbug era where there were bugs left and right, it still at least looked good for the most part. So it being more intensive over something like RDR2 or Valhalla was at least partially justified. Starfield doesn't have that excuse. It looks worse than those two games while also running much worse.
I seriously hope the engineers at CDPR are helping Epic on the optimization front with UE5 because this looks freaking amazing and it's not that demanding for what it is. I mean, full path tracing in an open world game of this visual quality at playable framerate...still looks like magic to me.
"playable framerate"?!? Even on 1080p it isn't, what are you talking about, man. Playable is at least 120 fps, real fps, without FG. Anything less than at least 100 fps in first person shooter is a disaster.
@@zWORMzGaming Thanks! I really can't decide whether to get a 4070 now or save another month for a 4070ti (I can't justify the 4090 and the 4080 will need a stronger PSU). I'm also kinda torn between getting a 4k monitor or a 1440p monitor - at least with a 4k monitor I can play 1080p "natively" if you know what I mean - but regardless I need enough horsepower to run RR at performant settings.
Watched another popular channel showing this game with all the visual upgrades that came with 2.0 and it barely looked different. This video shows them off much better.
I literally watched this entire video eating chicken wings by myself, even though these videos are to experience and explore the limits of hardware, it still is incredibly entertaining. ❤
Pretty awesome that it gives the same or more performance while looking that much better. Ordinarilly we would expect to see a moderate performance hit for such a difference. Good stuff and glad it works on older rtx cards.
In Cuba they would call all of these technologies, DLSS, Overdrive a thing called "Gambiarra"...it's way faster and better to put a bucket filled with water to the brm, below your monitor. You'll have top notch reflections
I like the space between the frames, all even. That 14fps makes a nice 28fps with that DLSS3.5. It almost gives the impression of 40fps that older graphic cards gave.
You should probably keep in mind that these results come from a card worth $1,100+ (even more in EU), which is more than AMD's fastest gaming card. This is not something that the vast majority can afford either way.
RR works on 20 series cards, aka I can use DLSS at 1080p and with ray reconstruction it fixes all my issues with using DLSS with raytracing. This comes at a cost to nvidia though given its just saved the life of older RTX cards like my 2080 super
@@X_irtz The point is Nvidia is not selling only the GPU, unlike AMD. Sure you have to pay more but you also get more. DLSS is the best Upscaler and from game to game it gets more clear why DLSS is better. DLAA gets you good Quality improvements. Reflex is superior since years now and AMD now got their HX or HS ( dont know the name), but thats also only for 7XXX GPUS.
EVERYONE ITS AN ARTIFICIAL LIMIT GO INTO YOUR APPDATA/LOCAL/CD PROJECT FILE AND CHANGE THE USER SETTINGS CFG FORCE DLSSD TO TRUE AND DEFAULT TO TRUE THEN SAVE IT AS READ ONLY AND RAY RECONSTRUCTION WILL WORK WITH NORMAL RTX
starfield optimization is a joke. after seeing this. cyberpunk looked good even when, there were bugs left and right, it still at least looked good for the most part. Bethesda has no excuse. great video as always.
bro u look on DLSS and Framegen vs Native. He gets 20fps without them. Starfield have okay performance it just look like shit for performance u are getting.
Never had the oportunity to test Path Tracing myself, but from youtube videos I noticed it was noisy and somehow unrealistic. Now with Ray Reconstrution it looks so clear and natural.
This is the first time I've been actually wowed by raytracing. Usually the visual difference in other games is so negligible and the performance hit so high that it made no sense to use imo. But Pathtracing in Cyberpunk looks insane and the performance is actually pretty good thanks to Nvidia's DLSS 3.5, I'm excited to see what games will look like in a few years when more powerful hardware becomes the standard.
"and the performance is actually pretty good" - man, sorry, but are you out of you mind? Performance of path tracing is half of performance of RT ultra, and RT ultra is already 2.5 times less fps than ultra without RT, what are you talking about? It's absolutely unplayable. On ANY gpu. Even 4090 can't give decent fps (120+ without FG, FG doesn't help with latency at all) with path tracing, only if on 1080p with DLSS performance, but it's utter insanity to buy 2000$ GPU and use it on a deprecated 1080p display with upscaling from 540p (!!!). What's wrong with you people, is it just me, or whole world just gone mad... why do people just don't respect themselves so much...
OMG it's out?! I gotta download this as soon as I get home lol. I have the same GPU, and I've tried the path tracing setting in the old version, which I can get running very smoothly with DLSS3 and quality at 1440p. Frame gen is like witchcraft I swear
Damn, this gpu can achieve high refresh rate at 1080p with everything maxed out in Cyberpunk but dips below 60 fps in starfield on ultra settings, a game with static vegetation, cubemap reflections and water from 2010 lol
This looks so amazing, even at 14FPS,.... Maybe I just got use to your Starfield videos lol. Seriously, I can see a little room for improvement, but this is looking absolutely amazing.
And it's not important that it is absolutely unplayable, yeeeeees. Technology of future, maybe, if we're lucky, in 5 years from now there will be some GPU that can handle it.
I am more impressed with the visual quality at 1080p. Especially considering now you can get far better visual quality while using RT and without having to need the top tier cards. I assume so.
I love your videos, not only we got to see the graphical changes they've done to Cyberpunk but we also got to see the big improvement in combat too, before killing Bob was very glitchy now it properly ragdolls and everything and we also got to see the police system in actio which looks pretty good now! Thank you for this videos I always enjoy your content :)
@@zWORMzGaming Nice! My desk is 64 cm deep so I have to pick something smaller. Choosing between AW3423DWF and Samsung Neo G7 and couldn't decide... :P
Awesome video as always, my man! But I didn't get what you meant by "blocky reflections", maybe TH-cam compressing too much 😅 Also there is very intense game area to test, it's located near holographic fishes, under the floor where there are little space with trees and benches. In 4080 and overdrive RT I get way less fps then anywhere else
I've been putting off playing CP 2077. I tried it originally on PS5 when it came out, but I did not like it. Patch 1.6 was a massive step in the right directrion, but I felt as though there was still some room for improvement. Since then i put together a pc with an RTX 4080, a R7 5800x3d and 32gigs of RAM. I just tried the game on my LG C1 oled at 4k performance DLSS, with RT overdrive and ray reconstruction and I gotta say that's what I had in mind when I saw the first trailer. I think we finally arrived! It took them 3 years but it's finnally time to play!
Ray Reconstruction is A LIFE SAVER for the Reflections like, for real?!! It makes them Much better then native res. Its crazy and people should take advantage of this new technology!😊
Are you serious, dude? 120 frame generated fps is just 60 real fps, and 60 real fps is a terrible experience, it's a huge, unplayable input lag. What's wrong with you people, i don't understand, have you ever tried playing games the proper way - on 140+hz display with 140+ real fps? If so, how can you ever call 60 fps "great experience" after this? If you haven't, just try it then, please, 120 real fps on 120hz display is much superior experience than fake 120 fps with any kind of graphics. Visuals just don't matter if game is unplayable, and with such enormous latency in first person shooter it's definately unplayable in comparison to real great experience of real high FPS.
@@tugaks1837 Actually this IS first person shooter, what are you talking about? It's a game when you control your character from first person view and SHOOT you enemies, aiming at them my mouse. RPG is something like Fallout 2.
Tbh I think the reflections are so high quality that they look unrealistic. It just feels like I’m seeing mirrors everywhere. The water just looks like mirrors.
Just tested the new settings and I gotta say I think the regular Ray Tracing at psycho looks better most of the time. I was getting a lot of washed out and dull lighting in OD, almost like it disabled AO and not to mention it's still really blurry when compared.
Hello guys. I came to talk abit of my experience here on this new 2.0 version of Cyberpunk 2077. I passed alot of hours testing on my RTX 4080 with an i7 13700k 64G RAM DDR5 6000. This new PathTracing with RR have some things I need to talk about. I passed alot time yesterday ticking the option ON and OFF, changing from Ultra RT to PT... then RT... PT... RT... PT... omg lol... I was getting crazy... Alot of hours on this features, ticking ON ticking OFF. I was on several places checking the reflections of the game, lightnings, shadows, the NPC faces their moviments and hands, the trees, objects, things at distance, etc etc... And my conclusion was: PathTracing is nice looking... but... just for reflections and the shadows are very good and ambient occlusion more real. But... on other hand we have same real problems... yeah... alot of ghosting, oily paiting felling specially on NPCs faces, hands and their moviments are strange like double or triple the outlines of the faces, lips, eyes, everything, all seems a mess. Also have artefacts and halos and some things, on distance some objects and NPCs the details are not right. Right now, I'm staying on RT Ultra, really, I can't play with PT like that, at least the CD Projekt RED fixes this feature or at least minimize the problem of PT+RR. On RT Ultra all NPCs seems more detailed and clean, still have good looking scenarios, no crazy ghostings and oily paiting, I have more FPS, the shadows and reflections are not as good as PT but its the trade off and I prefer like that. P.S.: I only had to remove the BLOOM from the game (a command line on a file at game paste location, check on internet if you are interested), because on some scenarios on shinny things and on cars, have a bug with DLSS active, doing some wierd flickering lightings, disabling BLOOM fixes that. I also changed the DLSS file from 3.1.1 on the game paste to the 3.5 (fixes some shimmering on game) Hope this helps you guys to decide, what to do if you are on same boat. Cheers!!!
@ 4:40 the bug your talking about is it like ghosting? Im seeing alot of this when speaking with characters the hair and eyelashes etc are ghosting frames and create a blur.
All I know is that after this update cyberpunk is probably the best optimized game on the market. I dont Even have an Nvidia GPU and the CPU optimizations alone have improved my performance by like 20%. Im so proud of CDPR for making up for the terrible launch.
Hello, I don't know if you have any contacts at Nvidia or if you know of any other TH-camrs who do. But there's a bug with DLSS 3.5 when the lighting changes and you remain stationary; the old denoizer kicks in. DLSS 3.5 ray reconstruction only works when there is movement and the lighting changes. To easily visualize what I just said, go to the location where the first DLSS 3.5 video was unveiled and perform both tests (move forward in the hallway and stay still). It should be reported to Nvidia.
Bruh just when I wanted to lookup RTX 4080 in Cyberpunk this video pops up for me xd (And the Crowd density is now in the Graphics settings if you don't find it out in the video)
I have a 4070Ti with an i7-12000K and 32GB DDR4 3200 ram. I play in 1440 with all settings on high + path tracing enabled. DLSS Quality + FG + RR. I typically get about 75-90fps in the most demanding city areas. Once you start getting more towards the less dense spots in Night City I can hit the 100s. DLSS 3.5 is amazing.
My dude, i don't understand, would you be happy to get a wife that is really a man? No? Then why are you happy about fake 90 fps, when it's really just 45 fps with interpolated frames, which don't make input lag better at all (even make it worse)? The ONLY purpose of high FPS is low input lag. 90 FPS with frame generation is just 45 fps, that's it. FG is just a fraud. Why are you people so happy about it? How can you mistake man with a woman, if just Jensen Huang tells you so? I GENUINELY don't understand it...
I was just testing my PC and OMG it looks amazing and runs impressively well on the RTX 4080 and the i5 13600k especially on 1440p with very good input delay even with FG, didn't have the time for testing 4k and now i'm hyped to watch the video to see how it performs
Man, it performs terrible, not even 4090 can give decent FPS with path tracing. Decent FPS is 120+, WITHOUT frame generation, because frame generation doesn't help with input lag, actually it makes it even worse, and smaller input lag is the ONLY serious reason of having high FPS. Using frame generation in first person shooter is just pointless, it's like growing muscles with silicone, it doesn't make any sense - it's not real muscles, you can't use them the same way, there's no power, just deception. What's wrong with you people? How can you eat this nvidia crap and even be GLAD about it? Frame generation is just a fraud, i'm terrified such thing even exists, will you be happy to get a wife that really is a man? No? Then why are you so happy about fake fps, which doesn't give nearly as good experience like real 120+ fps? I genuinely don't understand this madness...
If only you didn't turn off motion blur in every game you test. I really like it 🥲 But back to Cyberpunk... I really like the new update 2.0, and performance and visual quality in RT Overdrive is unheard of. I've never seen a game that looked this good 😭 I wanted to lick my LG OLED 😂 (playing on a 4090) One thing I don't like is a lot of ghosting when using DLSS + frame gen + RR 🤨Hope they can fix it asap. Great video, tho!😊
So, I was playing cyberpunk and to improve it I activated the option only for RTX video cards (My video card is GTX, this happened because I didn't read the name RTX) so now I can't open the game anymore, after a few seconds of game loading screen crashes. I already installed the game again, checked the integrity of the files and nothing resolved it. Would you know what I can do in this situation?
ngl i'm pretty impressed; same performance with a better denoiser and some AI magic. according to nvidia RR isn't nearly as optimized as it could be (as of right now) cause atm RR is just bleeding edge tech and nothing more. It's not meant to run well on anything other than 4090 and 4080 at 2K (basically they want to make sure it works properly and provides good visual results and then they will optimize it for lower end hardware). Over time it will get better and a lot more GPUs will be able to utilize it cause so far they only trained it for path tracing. and path tracing is a nightmare for all gpus
Are you recording on the same PC as your gameplay? Only reason I ask, I use a Capture Card 2 pc setup, when I enable DLSS Frame Generation, althought I'm getting 60fps at 4k, the lag that is generates when moving is insane.
yup I knew it was caused by FG. Is there anyway around it (apart from obviously disabling it) but I need it on a 4080 at 4k. I'm having to keep FG disabled at the moment, but then its a toss up between using Path Tracing and RR for 45fps or turn them off and just use standard Psycho RT for 60 and miss out on those glorious reflections. Loving your videos to man, been a long time watcher but first time I've spoken to you in comments. @@zWORMzGaming
Don't need a 4090 to get 60+ throughout. You just need better hardware surrounding the 4080. Going from a 13600K to a 13700K by itself will get you there. Added bonus that my rig has a 32GB kit of G Skill Hynix A Die 6400 DDR5 ram which gives it a bit more juice to work with. Can brute force it with the 4090 but every bit matters with the 4080 if you want to keep it at 60+ throughout with RT/RR/FG enabled.
Dude, what are you even talking about? Do you have any idea how game engines work? Have you heard about CPU and GPU bound scenarios? In this case it's clear that total FPS is limited solely by GPU, path tracing is absolute disaster on performance, it holds frames so much more than CPU engine updates, that it is just uncomparable. Even 4090 can't handle RT overdrive with decent fps (120+ withOUT frame generation), not nearly.
It looks better most of the time, but as HUB showed in his video there are some situations where its can be worse. But Im sure Nvidia will improve it with updates
The more ue5 games I see, the more I appreciate cyberpunk optimisation
right?! we thought we had it bad ...
It's the devs fault not ue
@@findgod...it’s the publishers fault not the devs
Too bad CDPR will switch to UE5....
even ue4 games, half of the terribly optimised recent games are on 4
Bob looks even better dead now at 4K with DLSS 3.5!! 10/10
I'm actually blown away how good this patch is for me, and that doesnt happen often. Its crazy how the game now utilising cpu's correctly has changed the game entirely.
Gone from 40-60fps no matter the settings (even on lowest settings), on my 3700x, to a near locked 60fps, on near max settings with NO upscaling (3700x, 32gb ram, GTX 1080ti).
Hopefully other studios take note of this patch.
And some random YT commenter with 60 subs has access to 2.0 nearly a week early how...? Stop lying kid
Er the 2.0 patch released yesterday bud. Its the story expansion that releases next week lol.@@AB-zv6dz
@@AB-zv6dzthe 2.0 patch released on the 21st for everyone
@@AB-zv6dzlol
@@AB-zv6dz LOL! Dude the 2.0 update released yesterday for everyone...
Finally! Some good rays to be traced!
dude ur the sweetest and best gaming/testing youtuber ever W man
thank you! glad you think so :D
The thing about Cyberpunk is that even in the true Cyberbug era where there were bugs left and right, it still at least looked good for the most part. So it being more intensive over something like RDR2 or Valhalla was at least partially justified. Starfield doesn't have that excuse. It looks worse than those two games while also running much worse.
Graphics isn't the only thing that is degrading performance
That's why I named it sh*tfield 😊
Unpopular opinion
Realistic graphics are terrible
You mean simles world without loading screens, yes?@@findgod...
@@polishhamnr1469 Yeah, there's a video called "If Bethesda made Cyberpunk 2077" where you have a loading screen every 5 seconds lol
Man it feels realy good when you watch the video the time that it uploaded by the way the quality of video is great as always
I seriously hope the engineers at CDPR are helping Epic on the optimization front with UE5 because this looks freaking amazing and it's not that demanding for what it is. I mean, full path tracing in an open world game of this visual quality at playable framerate...still looks like magic to me.
Wish we could get doom levels of optimization in cyberpunk. I know it's apples to oranges.
"playable framerate"?!? Even on 1080p it isn't, what are you talking about, man. Playable is at least 120 fps, real fps, without FG. Anything less than at least 100 fps in first person shooter is a disaster.
@@detrizor7030speak for yourself
thx for showing us , such a big difference in details :)
Damn, bros been pumping out videos with Starfield and now CP2077 2.0 comes out, don’t burn yourself out, this seems like a ton of work! Mad respect!
Really?
The difference is amazing on 1080p resolutions!!! Damn well done
Hope you do the 4070 as well my Friend will like to see the different 1440P results 😁😁
Will do 😃
@@zWORMzGaming can you also do rx 7800 xt videos because rn rx 7800 xt is sold out everywhere for its good price and performance
@@zWORMzGaming Thanks! I really can't decide whether to get a 4070 now or save another month for a 4070ti (I can't justify the 4090 and the 4080 will need a stronger PSU). I'm also kinda torn between getting a 4k monitor or a 1440p monitor - at least with a 4k monitor I can play 1080p "natively" if you know what I mean - but regardless I need enough horsepower to run RR at performant settings.
@@7xyn💀
I wonder how dlss 3.5 would perform on a 2060 ahahahah
thats such a good thumbnail! also Great vid as usual :)
thank you mate :D
Watched another popular channel showing this game with all the visual upgrades that came with 2.0 and it barely looked different. This video shows them off much better.
I literally watched this entire video eating chicken wings by myself, even though these videos are to experience and explore the limits of hardware, it still is incredibly entertaining. ❤
Bro you are cool 😎
Don’t forget dlss 3.5 gives you a 8% fps boost as well in overdrive.
the ray reconstruction is crazy good, but I noticed ghosting from DLSS behind the cars, so it's not just from FSR.
Ghosting its not about fsr or dlss, in cyberpunk its result of own graphics algorithms.
Pretty awesome that it gives the same or more performance while looking that much better. Ordinarilly we would expect to see a moderate performance hit for such a difference. Good stuff and glad it works on older rtx cards.
This champ is doing content instantly, huuuge respect
I was waiting for u mate.... This is why this channel is ❤
In Cuba they would call all of these technologies, DLSS, Overdrive a thing called "Gambiarra"...it's way faster and better to put a bucket filled with water to the brm, below your monitor. You'll have top notch reflections
Waited so long for this update. Im gonna play through the whole game again :D
I like the space between the frames, all even. That 14fps makes a nice 28fps with that DLSS3.5. It almost gives the impression of 40fps that older graphic cards gave.
The crowd density option has been moved to the Graphics tab for anyone wondering.
me with a 1070: hmm... yes, very interesting
I don't remember everyone being this critical of the appearance of RT Overdrive when that came out, it was really hyped up
Beautiful at native, very noisy with DLSS, unless at 4K with DLSS Q
@@zWORMzGamingfair enough 👌
I'm usually team AMD all through but they better step up their ray tracing software soon or they'll be in big trouble
You should probably keep in mind that these results come from a card worth $1,100+ (even more in EU), which is more than AMD's fastest gaming card. This is not something that the vast majority can afford either way.
RR works on 20 series cards, aka I can use DLSS at 1080p and with ray reconstruction it fixes all my issues with using DLSS with raytracing. This comes at a cost to nvidia though given its just saved the life of older RTX cards like my 2080 super
@@Physuo except, only 4xxx cards come with frame generation
@@Physuoyou cant use RR without path tracing for now
@@X_irtz The point is Nvidia is not selling only the GPU, unlike AMD. Sure you have to pay more but you also get more. DLSS is the best Upscaler and from game to game it gets more clear why DLSS is better. DLAA gets you good Quality improvements. Reflex is superior since years now and AMD now got their HX or HS ( dont know the name), but thats also only for 7XXX GPUS.
Nice video as always man, I've noticed that one of the downsides of using RR, is that the shadows (specially in the daytime) flicker more.
2:55 damm that looks so good
despite yt compression
Funny and informative as always, love it
Amazing video!! Also, what monitor do you use?
EVERYONE ITS AN ARTIFICIAL LIMIT GO INTO YOUR APPDATA/LOCAL/CD PROJECT FILE AND CHANGE THE USER SETTINGS CFG FORCE DLSSD TO TRUE AND DEFAULT TO TRUE THEN SAVE IT AS READ ONLY AND RAY RECONSTRUCTION WILL WORK WITH NORMAL RTX
5:42 best part :D that guy gave you a hard time!
starfield optimization is a joke.
after seeing this.
cyberpunk looked good even when, there were bugs left and right, it still at least looked good for the most part.
Bethesda has no excuse.
great video as always.
bro u look on DLSS and Framegen vs Native. He gets 20fps without them. Starfield have okay performance it just look like shit for performance u are getting.
Me trying to watch 4K ultra ray tracing at 720p with TH-cam compression 😂 it doesn’t really work
Never had the oportunity to test Path Tracing myself, but from youtube videos I noticed it was noisy and somehow unrealistic. Now with Ray Reconstrution it looks so clear and natural.
Pleasure to watch you as always mate. For content variety, could you benchmark the game with a GTX serie card? Like 1660s or ti perhaps
This is the first time I've been actually wowed by raytracing. Usually the visual difference in other games is so negligible and the performance hit so high that it made no sense to use imo.
But Pathtracing in Cyberpunk looks insane and the performance is actually pretty good thanks to Nvidia's DLSS 3.5, I'm excited to see what games will look like in a few years when more powerful hardware becomes the standard.
"and the performance is actually pretty good" - man, sorry, but are you out of you mind? Performance of path tracing is half of performance of RT ultra, and RT ultra is already 2.5 times less fps than ultra without RT, what are you talking about? It's absolutely unplayable. On ANY gpu. Even 4090 can't give decent fps (120+ without FG, FG doesn't help with latency at all) with path tracing, only if on 1080p with DLSS performance, but it's utter insanity to buy 2000$ GPU and use it on a deprecated 1080p display with upscaling from 540p (!!!). What's wrong with you people, is it just me, or whole world just gone mad... why do people just don't respect themselves so much...
legend never forget to "Good byeeeee, Bob"
Nice vid. still waiting for RTX 2060 Super vids tho
OMG it's out?! I gotta download this as soon as I get home lol. I have the same GPU, and I've tried the path tracing setting in the old version, which I can get running very smoothly with DLSS3 and quality at 1440p. Frame gen is like witchcraft I swear
Nice video as usual 👍😎
Damn, this gpu can achieve high refresh rate at 1080p with everything maxed out in Cyberpunk but dips below 60 fps in starfield on ultra settings, a game with static vegetation, cubemap reflections and water from 2010 lol
1440P with the bells and whistles is amazing
Great video man Will you test the 3080 ti or the 4070 ti?
I wonder what would've happen if Starfield had Path Tracing
the nuke 😭
Can it run starfield?
@@awful_0Hiroshima Part 2 lol
If it wasnt done by bethesda it would run better than the base game
still would look bad as lighting is the only thing that looks okay in starfield.
There's more reflection in this game than in real life 🤣
This looks so amazing, even at 14FPS,.... Maybe I just got use to your Starfield videos lol.
Seriously, I can see a little room for improvement, but this is looking absolutely amazing.
And it's not important that it is absolutely unplayable, yeeeeees. Technology of future, maybe, if we're lucky, in 5 years from now there will be some GPU that can handle it.
I am more impressed with the visual quality at 1080p. Especially considering now you can get far better visual quality while using RT and without having to need the top tier cards. I assume so.
I can finally see the new generation
I love your videos, not only we got to see the graphical changes they've done to Cyberpunk but we also got to see the big improvement in combat too, before killing Bob was very glitchy now it properly ragdolls and everything and we also got to see the police system in actio which looks pretty good now! Thank you for this videos I always enjoy your content :)
I'm running it on a 12gb 4080 laptop, 2560x1600, everything maxed out with FG+RR and DLSS balanced and it's keeping above 60
This tech is just awesome
Nice Video! Big Sub! May I ask what monitor've you paired with rtx 4080?
Thank you!
It's an LG C2 Oled 42" :)
@@zWORMzGaming Nice! My desk is 64 cm deep so I have to pick something smaller. Choosing between AW3423DWF and Samsung Neo G7 and couldn't decide... :P
I don't understand why there is even a toggle to turn it on and off it should be on whenever dlss is on
Awesome video as always, my man! But I didn't get what you meant by "blocky reflections", maybe TH-cam compressing too much 😅
Also there is very intense game area to test, it's located near holographic fishes, under the floor where there are little space with trees and benches. In 4080 and overdrive RT I get way less fps then anywhere else
I think you should show two photos when you want to show difference between a scene
0:25 - isnt it the old driver? i've installed 537.42 yesterday right after updating cyberpunk
I've been putting off playing CP 2077. I tried it originally on PS5 when it came out, but I did not like it. Patch 1.6 was a massive step in the right directrion, but I felt as though there was still some room for improvement. Since then i put together a pc with an RTX 4080, a R7 5800x3d and 32gigs of RAM. I just tried the game on my LG C1 oled at 4k performance DLSS, with RT overdrive and ray reconstruction and I gotta say that's what I had in mind when I saw the first trailer. I think we finally arrived! It took them 3 years but it's finnally time to play!
By 2025 we probably will be chugging these weird technologies like David his immunoblockers to maintain semi-stable 60fps lmao
That's a hilarious but true comparison.
Ray Reconstruction is A LIFE SAVER for the Reflections like, for real?!! It makes them Much better then native res. Its crazy and people should take advantage of this new technology!😊
It also fixes your FPS. Wish there was a way to only run RR and no DLSS for the rest of the game.
@anitaremenarova6662 yeah they should add that option
1:10 and chromatic aberration? dof? lens flare? xd
Excellent video respect 🙏
I have the same GPU and CPU. Getting 120 fps with RT: Overdrive, pathtraced at 1440p. Great experience
Are you serious, dude? 120 frame generated fps is just 60 real fps, and 60 real fps is a terrible experience, it's a huge, unplayable input lag. What's wrong with you people, i don't understand, have you ever tried playing games the proper way - on 140+hz display with 140+ real fps? If so, how can you ever call 60 fps "great experience" after this? If you haven't, just try it then, please, 120 real fps on 120hz display is much superior experience than fake 120 fps with any kind of graphics. Visuals just don't matter if game is unplayable, and with such enormous latency in first person shooter it's definately unplayable in comparison to real great experience of real high FPS.
@@tugaks1837 Actually this IS first person shooter, what are you talking about? It's a game when you control your character from first person view and SHOOT you enemies, aiming at them my mouse. RPG is something like Fallout 2.
Tbh I think the reflections are so high quality that they look unrealistic. It just feels like I’m seeing mirrors everywhere. The water just looks like mirrors.
This game is so beautiful, its amazing. 🙌
Just tested the new settings and I gotta say I think the regular Ray Tracing at psycho looks better most of the time. I was getting a lot of washed out and dull lighting in OD, almost like it disabled AO and not to mention it's still really blurry when compared.
Not to mention the distant NPC/Object animation smearing. Poor Judy looked like a bizarre alien during the BD calibration process.
Nice videos just as always!
Please, test this update with RTX 4070!
Why? To see how bad it performs? Man, even 4090 can't give playable fps (120+ without FG) with path tracing, why do you even thing about 4070?
Hello guys. I came to talk abit of my experience here on this new 2.0 version of Cyberpunk 2077.
I passed alot of hours testing on my RTX 4080 with an i7 13700k 64G RAM DDR5 6000.
This new PathTracing with RR have some things I need to talk about.
I passed alot time yesterday ticking the option ON and OFF, changing from Ultra RT to PT... then RT... PT... RT... PT... omg lol... I was getting crazy...
Alot of hours on this features, ticking ON ticking OFF.
I was on several places checking the reflections of the game, lightnings, shadows, the NPC faces their moviments and hands, the trees, objects, things at distance, etc etc...
And my conclusion was: PathTracing is nice looking... but... just for reflections and the shadows are very good and ambient occlusion more real.
But... on other hand we have same real problems... yeah... alot of ghosting, oily paiting felling specially on NPCs faces, hands and their moviments are strange like double or triple the outlines of the faces, lips, eyes, everything, all seems a mess. Also have artefacts and halos and some things, on distance some objects and NPCs the details are not right.
Right now, I'm staying on RT Ultra, really, I can't play with PT like that, at least the CD Projekt RED fixes this feature or at least minimize the problem of PT+RR.
On RT Ultra all NPCs seems more detailed and clean, still have good looking scenarios, no crazy ghostings and oily paiting, I have more FPS, the shadows and reflections are not as good as PT but its the trade off and I prefer like that.
P.S.: I only had to remove the BLOOM from the game (a command line on a file at game paste location, check on internet if you are interested), because on some scenarios on shinny things and on cars, have a bug with DLSS active, doing some wierd flickering lightings, disabling BLOOM fixes that.
I also changed the DLSS file from 3.1.1 on the game paste to the 3.5 (fixes some shimmering on game)
Hope this helps you guys to decide, what to do if you are on same boat. Cheers!!!
@ 4:40 the bug your talking about is it like ghosting? Im seeing alot of this when speaking with characters the hair and eyelashes etc are ghosting frames and create a blur.
All I know is that after this update cyberpunk is probably the best optimized game on the market. I dont Even have an Nvidia GPU and the CPU optimizations alone have improved my performance by like 20%.
Im so proud of CDPR for making up for the terrible launch.
Why they dont launch a game like this from start? 😅
I like your content KryzzP :D keep making more videos of Cyberbug 1977 benchmarks as these videos helps me deciding which GPU should I buy :)
More coming soon! Along with PayDay 3 :D
don't joke its better than these 2023 shitty releases
Perhaps you could also try lies of p
Hello, I don't know if you have any contacts at Nvidia or if you know of any other TH-camrs who do. But there's a bug with DLSS 3.5 when the lighting changes and you remain stationary; the old denoizer kicks in. DLSS 3.5 ray reconstruction only works when there is movement and the lighting changes. To easily visualize what I just said, go to the location where the first DLSS 3.5 video was unveiled and perform both tests (move forward in the hallway and stay still). It should be reported to Nvidia.
Bruh just when I wanted to lookup RTX 4080 in Cyberpunk this video pops up for me xd (And the Crowd density is now in the Graphics settings if you don't find it out in the video)
but it is about 500 watts of power consumption per hour. It looks really realistic though.
I have a 4070Ti with an i7-12000K and 32GB DDR4 3200 ram. I play in 1440 with all settings on high + path tracing enabled. DLSS Quality + FG + RR. I typically get about 75-90fps in the most demanding city areas. Once you start getting more towards the less dense spots in Night City I can hit the 100s. DLSS 3.5 is amazing.
My dude, i don't understand, would you be happy to get a wife that is really a man? No? Then why are you happy about fake 90 fps, when it's really just 45 fps with interpolated frames, which don't make input lag better at all (even make it worse)? The ONLY purpose of high FPS is low input lag. 90 FPS with frame generation is just 45 fps, that's it. FG is just a fraud. Why are you people so happy about it? How can you mistake man with a woman, if just Jensen Huang tells you so? I GENUINELY don't understand it...
@@detrizor7030 I like men but fuck frame generation, worst feature nvidia release in at least a decade.
The DLSS in the game is now verison 3 right? more precisely 3.5. So general image qualtiy also should be aweasom
I was just testing my PC and OMG it looks amazing and runs impressively well on the RTX 4080 and the i5 13600k especially on 1440p with very good input delay even with FG, didn't have the time for testing 4k and now i'm hyped to watch the video to see how it performs
Man, it performs terrible, not even 4090 can give decent FPS with path tracing. Decent FPS is 120+, WITHOUT frame generation, because frame generation doesn't help with input lag, actually it makes it even worse, and smaller input lag is the ONLY serious reason of having high FPS. Using frame generation in first person shooter is just pointless, it's like growing muscles with silicone, it doesn't make any sense - it's not real muscles, you can't use them the same way, there's no power, just deception. What's wrong with you people? How can you eat this nvidia crap and even be GLAD about it? Frame generation is just a fraud, i'm terrified such thing even exists, will you be happy to get a wife that really is a man? No? Then why are you so happy about fake fps, which doesn't give nearly as good experience like real 120+ fps? I genuinely don't understand this madness...
@detrizor7030 I ain't reading all that,
I'm happy for you tho,
or sorry that happened
If only you didn't turn off motion blur in every game you test. I really like it 🥲
But back to Cyberpunk... I really like the new update 2.0, and performance and visual quality in RT Overdrive is unheard of. I've never seen a game that looked this good 😭 I wanted to lick my LG OLED 😂 (playing on a 4090)
One thing I don't like is a lot of ghosting when using DLSS + frame gen + RR 🤨Hope they can fix it asap.
Great video, tho!😊
So, I was playing cyberpunk and to improve it I activated the option only for RTX video cards (My video card is GTX, this happened because I didn't read the name RTX) so now I can't open the game anymore, after a few seconds of game loading screen crashes. I already installed the game again, checked the integrity of the files and nothing resolved it. Would you know what I can do in this situation?
Nice to see you again kryzpp 😶🌫️
that i5 is a beast of a cpu
Nice comparison test
ngl i'm pretty impressed; same performance with a better denoiser and some AI magic. according to nvidia RR isn't nearly as optimized as it could be (as of right now) cause atm RR is just bleeding edge tech and nothing more. It's not meant to run well on anything other than 4090 and 4080 at 2K (basically they want to make sure it works properly and provides good visual results and then they will optimize it for lower end hardware). Over time it will get better and a lot more GPUs will be able to utilize it cause so far they only trained it for path tracing. and path tracing is a nightmare for all gpus
Are you recording on the same PC as your gameplay? Only reason I ask, I use a Capture Card 2 pc setup, when I enable DLSS Frame Generation, althought I'm getting 60fps at 4k, the lag that is generates when moving is insane.
I also use a capture card, the lag is because of FG itself
yup I knew it was caused by FG. Is there anyway around it (apart from obviously disabling it) but I need it on a 4080 at 4k. I'm having to keep FG disabled at the moment, but then its a toss up between using Path Tracing and RR for 45fps or turn them off and just use standard Psycho RT for 60 and miss out on those glorious reflections. Loving your videos to man, been a long time watcher but first time I've spoken to you in comments.
@@zWORMzGaming
Could you do MK1 bemchmarks? It would be nice.
And good video!❤
The crowd density option has been moved to the graphics settings, that's why it's not in the gameplay settings.
Don't need a 4090 to get 60+ throughout. You just need better hardware surrounding the 4080. Going from a 13600K to a 13700K by itself will get you there. Added bonus that my rig has a 32GB kit of G Skill Hynix A Die 6400 DDR5 ram which gives it a bit more juice to work with. Can brute force it with the 4090 but every bit matters with the 4080 if you want to keep it at 60+ throughout with RT/RR/FG enabled.
Dude, what are you even talking about? Do you have any idea how game engines work? Have you heard about CPU and GPU bound scenarios? In this case it's clear that total FPS is limited solely by GPU, path tracing is absolute disaster on performance, it holds frames so much more than CPU engine updates, that it is just uncomparable. Even 4090 can't handle RT overdrive with decent fps (120+ withOUT frame generation), not nearly.
It looks better most of the time, but as HUB showed in his video there are some situations where its can be worse. But Im sure Nvidia will improve it with updates
who's HUB??
@@aibi5532 Hardware Unboxed
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@@aibi5532 horrible person dont watch him.
@@aibi5532you're obviously new to tech channel if you don't know who HUB is
are u gonne test the 2.0 version of CP77 with older GPU???... like GTX 1050TI
You really do have an Bobsession!
amazing as always!! can you please try the GTX1650 4GB next to see if 4GB o VRAM is enough to go and kill BOB 2.0!!!
I think i finally know legit reason to use 1080p screen on rtx 4090 pc, ray tracing, without upscaling
why is RR only for overdrive? thats stupid
Zwormz will rtx 30 series will have frame generation with the new dlss 3.5 ?
No.
30 series cards don't have optical flow accelerators, which is necessary for fg
@@arendess Incorrect. They have OFA, it's just too slow for FG.
@@chintoki oh yeah mb
The reflections on the puddles look like mirrors. They should look like... puddles.
Do you have a video of how you set your afterburner overlay ingame?
will you test the 4070ti again?
Why no new driver tho? Or is it was unavailable by the time you record it?
Impressive, thanks!