LEVI I commented PRAYERS TO LEVI and a moderator put me in timeout. While OTHERS were blatantly talking about her in a grotesque way. Find resolution in your MODERATORS.
@@Bourbon111 I can almost assure you that 80% of them are just teenagers from 15-20 -ish years old (mainly because Levy's audience is in that age range)... In my country you can't actually find men that don't base every action in disgusting thoughts and its honestly because of the insane unrestricted access to the internet . people have forgotten their manners
Mad respect for calling out those people in the beginning. You're also spot on with the fact that the reason most people aren't capable of basic empathy is because most people like that aren't smart enough to even engage with basic abstract thinking.
If that were true, why bother to bemoan it....? Do you like hitying your head against a brick wall. More over do you think those that use such langagee will now reconsider, if they are called idiot or scumbag..?
As a guy with a daughter that's starting to enjoy chess... thank you! The world needs more people in your influential position to speak out like this! I'll be buying a course shortly in support.
Complaining about what people say online is about the stupidest thing someone can do. As if complaining about it is suddenly going to make people stop on the internet. You are not serving anyone other than yourself by complaining about it.
As a female chess player who watches your videos, I just want to thank you for addressing this topic and tell you that you are one of the main reasons that I love chess. Also, my respect for you (which was already incredibly high) just skyrocketed. Good luck on your road to becoming a grandmaster.
I'm a male but I'm also glad he spoke up! I have many friends both male and female who are better than me at chess. All of us humans have a brain in our head and therefore can learn to play chess if we so wish to
@@crowbar_the_rogue if it were drama, we would've done something to start it, but apparently our mere existence in the same community is a problem to some less educated people. glad there are ones out there who don't think so backwards, gives me hope!
Not that Levy is wrong for calling it out, he's obviously 100% right but anyone who actually listened to his diatribe aren't the same ones making nasty comments. Nobody who was on there being sexist or racist or whatever is going to sit there and listen to that and have a change of heart It's just virtue signalling
Kudos to Levy for calling out the adolescent, pre-pubescent idiocy of the chat. It is impossible to overstate just how disastrous social media has been for an entire generation. Instead of keeping their mouths shut and actually learning something, they feel empowered to say whatever they want, protected by the anonymity of the internet. They want attention and don’t care his they get it. Frankly, it’s pathetic.
I've 28F and started playing chess when I was 10. My first chess competition, age 13, I got accused of only being there to distract boys by an adult man. I was a shy kid. I didn't draw attention to myself (and even if I did, I was a child, and that shouldn't matter). It wasn't light hearted either, it was an accusation. I've had men in chess clubs straight up sexually assault me more than once. The sexual harassment happens at almost every club I've ever been to. I've been met with people who won't play me, who get pissed if they lose to me, and who do not think I have anything of value to add to discussions about chess at every single club I've ever been to. All of them. Sexism in chess is a huge huge problem and a lot of people think it's not because they don't see or experience it because they aren't women. There is so much progress that needs to be made in attitudes towards women in chess and elsewhere in the world, and the only way that happens is by men calling out other men when they see bad behavior. It should not be normal to see people talking about women this way. People who do so deserve to be called out, shunned, or even outright kicked from the group if they cannot get it together. Thank you Levy for taking the lead here and calling this behavior out in such a direct, no nonsense way. I've honestly never heard a man stand up for women in chess like you did here and that is so valuable to me and also to the people who look up to you who are participating in that behavior. If you ever see this, thank you and you gained a fan for life ❤️
Sorry that happened to you. A lot of men seem to still live in the 60s where crap like this was deemed normal. A lot of men still have a lot to learn, it’s great to see more public people take a stance against sexism both on and offline.
I very much appreciated Levy's talk about this. It seems like it's a confluence of two major problems, one with chess and one with society, and not enough is being done to combat it. (In fact, it feels like more and more people are actively fighting _against_ decency and compassion...) I'm curious how you feel about the women's titles in chess. I get what they're trying to do, but after nearly half a century, basically two entire generations, it doesn't seem like it's worked. With a lack of clear efficacy, I'm left with a fairly sour taste in my mouth about the entire concept of women's titles in chess... though I'm only empathizing, imagining what it might feel like, from my perspective as a male and also nowhere near good enough for titles of any kind to be relevant to me personally, I imagine it would likely feel pretty patronizing and belittling. I've tried to imagine how I'd feel and what I'd do if I were a talented female chess player... would I go for a WIM or WGM title for the prestige it does have, even knowing that a lot of people are likely to prepend a "just" in front of them in their minds? Or would I hold out for the full, non-gender-specific titles, even knowing I might never get them? Ultimately I'm not really sure how to feel. I can't have the feelings I'm imagining for myself, so instead I can only ask: how do _you_ feel about them? Are you glad there's a separate but definitely not equal path of titles for female players? Or does the whole idea feel as nebulously and vaguely cognitively dissonant as I imagine it might?
@@Corakken the problem I'd say is that many chess players are nerds. They don't know how to treat a woman with respect and dignity. It's sad to see. Great Levy pointed that out.
Or Levy and his coach could develop thick skin like real people and stop being so sensitive! Who gives AF what people think of you? Man up buttercup! Soft ahh generation of people right now
@@idoshulman6379 you can probably find the vod somewhere, but it's pretty easy to imagine. just think about the kind of trolly comments you usually see here and make them sexist
I remember schools teaching us, "Don't post anything you wouldn't want your grandmother reading." Elementary school me thought that was a silly, stupid, and extreme sentiment for goody two shoes. Now I realize just how right it was. Professionalism above all else.
Personally there's plenty of things I wouldn't want my grandmother reading not because it's offensive but because it'd just have her asking too many questions; we're talking about a woman who once asked me who Mario is (in the context of me playing a Mario video game.) I think a better guideline is "don't say anything you'd be ashamed to have quoted in a Wikipedia article about you."
Boss intro. I grew up with 5 sisters and have watched them go through this at various stages in their lives. I can’t stand the idea of it being the same for my daughter. Much respect for calling it out brother❤
As a female chess player myself I had to click off of the livestream when live because I was offended by the comments on your opponent. Those people are idiots who wrote those comments. Your opponent was very skilled and should not get any hate for just playing chess.
Sorry you had to leave, we, the moderation team, were trying to catch and get rid of the nasty comments as fast as we could, but TH-cam moderation tools are lacking compared to twitch
@@Isabelpotatogirl wait cant you Like uhh make the Chat unvisable? Of course this shouldnt even be necessary buuuuut i think it's possible to do so maybe keep that in mind If you see something Like that again (even tho i think now where Levy is aware of what happened He will do His best to manage that) But tbh i can Imagine that it could be weird to watch the Stream even when you make the Chat invisible because alone the knowledge that there could be Bad stuff in Chat could make It weird so maybe i didnt Count that in
@@neondactyl tbh Not trying to be rude or sum but i was in both streams and i saw that that stuff was Happening in both streams, also on Twitch and some stuff didnt got moderated (which of course can Happen, Just wanted to Point Out that this isn't a TH-cam only Problem) But yeah, on TH-cam it was definetly worse
Wow, seeing Levy talking about equality in the stern manner that he did really made me respect him so much more than I did before. Not seen this side of him and I'm honestly so happy to see him commend his live stream chat's behavior, it's something that's very rarely seen in a public way like this
I don't comment. I am an old man. I just sit back and enjoy your content. I do my part, and you do yours. Today, however, I am compelled to give you an, 'At-a-boy.' You handled the comment issue with no ambiguity and grace. Well done, Levy. By the way, you enunciate so well that I watch your posts on 1.5 speed and catch every syllable.
Levy, I want to commend you for taking a strong stand today. Your message about respect, especially towards women, is so important and shows the true character behind the content you create. It's not just about the chess-it's about the community and the values you promote every day. Thank you for speaking up and for always striving to make this space better for everyone. Proud to support a creator who values respect and positivity as much as you do.
Hi Gotham. I don't think I've ever commented on one of your videos before, but I'm a long time viewer. I often recommend you to a lot of newer chess players (not necessarily to learn about chess, but rather to develop and grow their passion and love for the game and the community). You are a wonderful influence and entertaining individual. I'd just like to thank you for the first five minutes of this video. I was watching another youtube video recently where during the game, a woman played an incredible, beautiful move which essentially won the game on the spot. And like a gangster (as you would say), she played it, got up from the board, and walked away to grab something to drink. I immediately had to scroll to the comments to see what people had to say because I felt like it was an awesome moment. To my delight, I found out many/most of the comments were timestamping when it had happened and I thought I had found comraderie with my fellow chess players. That was short lived, however, as to my dismay they were all timestamping the moment due to her butt being in view for half of a second as she stood up. It's absolutely disgusting and it's absolutely the reason why fewer women play chess. Just two days ago I was teaching a new player how to play chess. The next day, his brother was making fun of him for being "beaten by a girl", as if gender has anything to do with chess ability. Luckily I am a strong enough player to put him in his place when the brother came to challenge me as well, but comments like these show that there is still very much in the way of bigotry in the world. I can only hope the newest generation of chess players can be more accepting and respectful.
@Gotham Levi I sat my 7 year old daughter down to watch this intro to show her that even though it WILL happen to her in life, there will always be people fighting for her as well.
@@gollumarx im not playing against him lol, that would be sick, he’s in the masters, im in the Open B. There’s the masters, then the Open A, B and C. My FIDE is 1655 ☠️
I'm glad that rather than ignoring the comments Levy condemns those who ruined the livestream for everyone. The disrespect shown to his opponent and, through insinuations, Levy's wife were beyond disgusting.
@@lenzelot983 just all around disgusting stuff about the women being a slut who was flirting with levy (apparently thats why she didnt lose miserably) they also said a bunch of other awful things.
@lenzelot983 A lot of sexist comments and innuendo over how Levy's and his opponent's names are so similar. I rarely watch livestreams, and I was reminded again why that is a good thing.
@@lenzelot983 i remember a guy spamming something like "a draw against a woman is like a loss". Dude is probable an 800 and she would destroy him 100/100 games
- Speaks up on misogyny - Recaps his game - Refuses to elaborate - Gains respect from women and men alike - tells us buy his Caro-Kann course - Tells us to 'get out of [here]' jokes aside, Lucy is a LUCKY woman.
I have never really understood the bias against and exclusion of women in chess. In my second chess tournament ever I lost to a girl who was the same age as me but obviously a lot stronger, being a 1600 elo player while I was only 1300 at the time. I thought nothing of it as she was obviously stronger than me, and probably even a little underrated. Chess is one of the most beautiful combinations of art and skill, and should be welcoming to all people.
They want to exclude everyone who doesn't look like them or pee standing up. White male supremacy is suffering in the U.S. and its supporters are not going gently into that night.
Hundreds of cultures and peoples across the world over hundreds of years have all, independently of one another, put MAJOR restrictions on their women. It's a problem much deeper than Chess
I think it's because men with big egos feel threatened by strong women in the game, especially when they get cooked by them. We need people to do what Levy did in this video and call it out, and beyond that encourage our friends to ignore the comments and play on
It's justt a stupid cycle: Women experience toxicity in men dominant spaces > Women in general try less or don't even bother because of the toxicity they experience (who wants to dedicate their lives to a game with a comunnity that doesn't respect them?) > People start being toxic and saying that women are bad at chess in general because they don't have as many achievement as men > Women experience toxicity. It just feeds itself. And they have the audacity to bring up thing like ''genetics'' or some bullshit when they're part of the reason we have less women that are masters in chess. Being an elite player is already hard enough, imagine if part of the community was also against you and the number of men playing the game is just a lot higher. Of course, less women are getting to the top. It's just statistics.
I basically never comment on videos, but I wanted to make an exception for this. Respect for standing up and speaking out. Great creator, great chess player, great person. Thanks!
Well said, Levy. This is one thing that people need to understand. Insulting anyone online and getting away with it without any consequences has made people way too comfortable. It's not about gender anymore. It's about anyone. People think it is funny to throw mud on anyone's face and then calling it a joke. Sick mentality. Pathetic behaviour.
thank you for speaking up for women in chess and in general, seeing it live was a little demotivating but seeing you directly adress this makes me honestly happy! ❤
Thank you for starting the video this way. We need more of this open/honest talk. It's absolutely insane that being kind, supportive, and uplifting to people needs to be defended.
Yeah... yet what you should be asking is if what they are saying is true or not, not if it is offensive. Note I don't even know what was said but with how stupid the whole "women in chess" has always been it shouldn't be a surprise, afterall thete shouldn't be a separeted league for women in chess with separated elo which requires lower qualification to reach the gm title.
@@Jasmine-yw8pl I'm pretty sure some of the comments were stupid and outright false. However, this is the internet. Any public figure should have the thick skin to ignore these comments, because addressing them like what Levy did here will change absolutely nothing except giving attention to that type of behavior. What Levy said has already been said a thousand times, and it will be said more in the future, and nothing will change. That's the way the internet works. Nothing will change the behavior of those people, especially when they go anonymous like that, what should be taught more is for people to have a thicker skin. If anything, the more you ignore that behavior and give it less attention, the less these people feel the urge to comment these type of things.
As a women, thank you for lecturing the kids about being respectful towards women. Thanks for making this a safe space for women chess players. As the kids say, W Levi.
Thanks Levy. I have a 14-month-old daughter and I'd love to share this game with her one day, and I'm also terrified about how girls and women are treated in chess. We need your voice, and probably a lot more voices, speaking out.
@@felixjohnston3402 So we should just leave them be? Yea... I don`t think so. Many people here love Levy and I believe some of them really took his words into consideration. It`s a dark time for the internet (Not to sound dramatic but you know what I mean)
Glad I didnt read those comments. As a woman playing chess I can say: thank you for the first few moments of the video. Sadly that is the reality of women playing chess.
Thanks for speaking up about this. As a female, I have realized that I just can't look at chats or comments when it's content surrounding a female playing chess. It's truly disgusting and a shame because I want to see more people like me playing chess and not excluded or harassed over a factor she can't control. Thank you!
Dear Levy, I am a 42 years old chess player from IRAN. I like your videos and in these three days, I was watching your games. You are doing an expensive job by trying to be a GM. I appreciate you and I really wish the best for you. I am a lecturer in Biophysics in Tehran university and yesterday I did not go to my class and did not teach, only to have time to watch your games live. Go on and know that there are many people in the world that know the cost of your work. I apologize you and all who read this comment for probable grammar mistakes in my writing. Best regards from Tehran, IRAN.
@@Enpassantys Dear Enpassantys, It is summer and the new course will start September 10. In these days I go to university to help the students. I myself have chosen to spend my time in summer for them to understand the next course better without any income or duty.
It's funny that I see people that spam and say mean things on livestream but here they are like "yeah levy tell them" anyway respect to levy for trying to end this madness
Hey Levy, Jarocka is pronounced as "Yarotska". C in Polish sounds more or less like "ts" in "lets" . You've done well anyway :) btw. huge respect for your message today. It's a cancer of our society to disrespect women on daily basis.... huge part of "lads culture" unfortunately.
Total lack of empathy online makes me sad. A streamer I liked when I was younger killed himself because of online comments. For a few days everyone is like “we have to be better” but as time goes on nothing changes
I am proud of u Levy for addressing the problem from the live chat. as a teenager i was really feeling awkward while I was on the stream. Again thank you man.Love you man hope u win the next game.🇮🇹 is with u
People are way too stupid to realise that hiding behind their screen, writing mean comments for a 2 second dopamine rush, doesn't make them better, smarter or cooler. Lots of respect for calling them out directly, probably the most educational moment in their lives squeezed in 2-3 minutes! ❤
thank you for speaking up about this, disrespect of women is genuinely an epidemic all over the internet but i’ve noticed it especially in the online chess world.
Levy, good on you for addressing the chats, very well worded. Would it be possible to make the livestreams members only? I know it takes the livestreams away from a lot of people with ill intent.
@@m.rcabrintsandragao-mao2944 That's not enough, in my opinion. Large viewerships attract more trolls and outside viewers than moderators can handle. A barrier is the only way to prevent comments like that. On Twitch, it's great, because you can require that people be a Follower ( for free ) for a certain amount of time before commenting. I'm not sure that TH-cam has a similar option unfortunately.
I'm proud of everything you addressed from beginning to end. I could see old Levy being discouraged by the tournament performance. It seems like you are holding strong, and it's good to see.
The bar for civility is so low my man felt the need to praise people for just behaving with basic human decency. Weird times. Ps: I don't subscribe to the "teens be teens" idea. As a teacher, I've seen teens being the most polite, empathetic beings on earth as much as I've seen teens behave like inconsequential jerks. So, if you're a jerk, that's just it. There's no justifying that.
Hard agree, it is sad thats how little deserves (and rightfully, in comparison) praise as being better. I watched the stream and didnt read any chat, now I feel a little bad that I didnt participate and call out that BS in real time. Its sick how the perceived anonymity of the internet brings out such horrific behavior in people.
For any of you using the teenager excuse. Read some of the writings of John Adams when he was a teenager. Read some of the writings of Charles spurgeon the great preacher at 16 years old. Read some of what George Whitefield wrote at 16 years old. And consider that the helmsman at the wheel in master and commander, a film that was historically accurate to the 1700s naval fights, had a 13-year-old at the wheel of a ship. Teenagers be as civil and they will be as mature as the adults around them push them to be.
Really well said Levy. This happens throughout life in general. My wife is a highly educated and enormously experienced Senior Manager and the men are very rude/demeaning toward her. She has saved so of their butts and they are still ignorant. You really hit the nail on the head man, thank you and look out for your wifey because sadly she will face it as well.
Hi Levi, I am playing chess since i am 5 years old. Thank you for Standing up for us. I personally experienced Bad Treatment Like that too and it is really great that you pointed that Out!
Back in 2019 I challenged myself to not leave a negative comment on TH-cam for one year. I bungled in the 11 month twice, but kept at it I’ve accomplished my goal. My goal was to get out of the habit of leaving negative vitriol filled responses. Now I can leave leave positive, often humorous, comments when I like something & I can just walk away without saying anything. It’s a good feeling to not feel obligated to waste time with unpleasant people or those who feel racial slurs are the highest form of discourse. I’d encourage those who feel similarly to consider acting likewise. Cheers!
I rarely comment here, but thanks for standing up against all the nonsense. There are so many amazing women in the chess space and they deserve respect, and it's a credit to you that you're using your platform to promote that.
Clean your room u lizard boy .
@@ishaansingh6216 PIN OF SHAME???
28 second pin. Wow.
Pin of glory
Hehe lizard boy
Pin of thoughtfulness but misguided
"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it"
-_Mike Tyson_
*_did you mean_* W Tyson
@@YourAverageGamingChannel120 🍷🗿
LEVI I commented PRAYERS TO LEVI and a moderator put me in timeout. While OTHERS were blatantly talking about her in a grotesque way. Find resolution in your MODERATORS.
Not sure Tyson is the person we should be taking advice on respecting women from.
Yeah he'd much rather people not mention what he did to that woman.
Thank you levy for speaking up about this, the Internet really made people comfortable with insulting others without repercussions
Might also be an idea to make his livestreams members only. So the people with ill intent don't get to it.
@@bnuy2why the pin of shame
@@bnuy2 what did I do
@@Onepiecekidd he doesn't only pin bad comments
Yh, respect that he started and finished the vid on this topic to really hammer it home for those who need it.
Chat is absolutely awful. Not your fault but mad props to you for speaking up.
Bunch of hormonal kids that forget their humanity... hopefully it gets better
@@juandanielmaldonado6229 I hope they're kids, but I'm not sure about It.
@@Bourbon111 I can almost assure you that 80% of them are just teenagers from 15-20 -ish years old (mainly because Levy's audience is in that age range)... In my country you can't actually find men that don't base every action in disgusting thoughts and its honestly because of the insane unrestricted access to the internet
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people have forgotten their manners
Yeah i watched the live stream, im glad i didnt pay any attention to the chat.
@@juandanielmaldonado6229 I don't think misogyny was invented with the internet
Mad respect for calling out those people in the beginning. You're also spot on with the fact that the reason most people aren't capable of basic empathy is because most people like that aren't smart enough to even engage with basic abstract thinking.
Empathy is a muscle and a lot of people don't fucking exercise
If that were true, why bother to bemoan it....? Do you like hitying your head against a brick wall. More over do you think those that use such langagee will now reconsider, if they are called idiot or scumbag..?
Well said
You oversimplify a situation because you’re not smart enough to engage with basic abstract thinking.
@@willrobbins2550 How would you have felt if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?
As a guy with a daughter that's starting to enjoy chess... thank you!
The world needs more people in your influential position to speak out like this!
I'll be buying a course shortly in support.
Mad respect to Levy for calling them out. Kudos.
1.4k likes but no comments? Let me fix that
@@Broski2023-db1jd 🤖🤖
@@Broski2023-db1jd Didn't need fixing 😐😐😐
You're all weak
Complaining about what people say online is about the stupidest thing someone can do. As if complaining about it is suddenly going to make people stop on the internet. You are not serving anyone other than yourself by complaining about it.
As a female chess player who watches your videos, I just want to thank you for addressing this topic and tell you that you are one of the main reasons that I love chess. Also, my respect for you (which was already incredibly high) just skyrocketed. Good luck on your road to becoming a grandmaster.
Same here - the pointless hateful remarks can feel so discouraging sometimes, but hang in there, we got this!
I'm a male but I'm also glad he spoke up! I have many friends both male and female who are better than me at chess. All of us humans have a brain in our head and therefore can learn to play chess if we so wish to
I'm male and I've never really cared about this kind of drama. But I am happy to see women play and enjoy chess.
@@crowbar_the_rogue if it were drama, we would've done something to start it, but apparently our mere existence in the same community is a problem to some less educated people. glad there are ones out there who don't think so backwards, gives me hope!
Dont care
Good on Levy for calling out the disgusting comments on the livestream. People need to be better
They won't be.
@@afuzzycreature8387💯
@@afuzzycreature8387 Then they will be kicked out of the community.
Not that Levy is wrong for calling it out, he's obviously 100% right but anyone who actually listened to his diatribe aren't the same ones making nasty comments.
Nobody who was on there being sexist or racist or whatever is going to sit there and listen to that and have a change of heart
It's just virtue signalling
Until they grow up. They're all 13 year old edge lords and I guaranteed they skipped the entire intro
Kudos to Levy for calling out the adolescent, pre-pubescent idiocy of the chat. It is impossible to overstate just how disastrous social media has been for an entire generation. Instead of keeping their mouths shut and actually learning something, they feel empowered to say whatever they want, protected by the anonymity of the internet. They want attention and don’t care his they get it. Frankly, it’s pathetic.
I've 28F and started playing chess when I was 10. My first chess competition, age 13, I got accused of only being there to distract boys by an adult man. I was a shy kid. I didn't draw attention to myself (and even if I did, I was a child, and that shouldn't matter). It wasn't light hearted either, it was an accusation.
I've had men in chess clubs straight up sexually assault me more than once. The sexual harassment happens at almost every club I've ever been to. I've been met with people who won't play me, who get pissed if they lose to me, and who do not think I have anything of value to add to discussions about chess at every single club I've ever been to. All of them.
Sexism in chess is a huge huge problem and a lot of people think it's not because they don't see or experience it because they aren't women. There is so much progress that needs to be made in attitudes towards women in chess and elsewhere in the world, and the only way that happens is by men calling out other men when they see bad behavior. It should not be normal to see people talking about women this way. People who do so deserve to be called out, shunned, or even outright kicked from the group if they cannot get it together.
Thank you Levy for taking the lead here and calling this behavior out in such a direct, no nonsense way. I've honestly never heard a man stand up for women in chess like you did here and that is so valuable to me and also to the people who look up to you who are participating in that behavior. If you ever see this, thank you and you gained a fan for life ❤️
Sorry that happened to you. A lot of men seem to still live in the 60s where crap like this was deemed normal.
A lot of men still have a lot to learn, it’s great to see more public people take a stance against sexism both on and offline.
I very much appreciated Levy's talk about this. It seems like it's a confluence of two major problems, one with chess and one with society, and not enough is being done to combat it. (In fact, it feels like more and more people are actively fighting _against_ decency and compassion...)
I'm curious how you feel about the women's titles in chess. I get what they're trying to do, but after nearly half a century, basically two entire generations, it doesn't seem like it's worked.
With a lack of clear efficacy, I'm left with a fairly sour taste in my mouth about the entire concept of women's titles in chess... though I'm only empathizing, imagining what it might feel like, from my perspective as a male and also nowhere near good enough for titles of any kind to be relevant to me personally, I imagine it would likely feel pretty patronizing and belittling. I've tried to imagine how I'd feel and what I'd do if I were a talented female chess player... would I go for a WIM or WGM title for the prestige it does have, even knowing that a lot of people are likely to prepend a "just" in front of them in their minds? Or would I hold out for the full, non-gender-specific titles, even knowing I might never get them?
Ultimately I'm not really sure how to feel. I can't have the feelings I'm imagining for myself, so instead I can only ask: how do _you_ feel about them? Are you glad there's a separate but definitely not equal path of titles for female players? Or does the whole idea feel as nebulously and vaguely cognitively dissonant as I imagine it might?
@@Corakken the problem I'd say is that many chess players are nerds. They don't know how to treat a woman with respect and dignity. It's sad to see. Great Levy pointed that out.
Massive respect Levi. I'm so happy you called this shit out. We need more people with audiences willing to call out BS when they see it.
Great respect to Levy for calling out misogyny and general abuse on the internet - good man!
What were they saying in the chat?
Misogyny is good.
What is the internet
Or Levy and his coach could develop thick skin like real people and stop being so sensitive! Who gives AF what people think of you? Man up buttercup! Soft ahh generation of people right now
@@idoshulman6379 you can probably find the vod somewhere, but it's pretty easy to imagine. just think about the kind of trolly comments you usually see here and make them sexist
Massive W on Levy's behalf for talking about this and standing up for women!
Levi is simply a big W as a gentleman
@@juandanielmaldonado6229 But he is far worse to everyone one else hlalf the time... Makes him a dirt bag and hipocrite.
I remember schools teaching us, "Don't post anything you wouldn't want your grandmother reading." Elementary school me thought that was a silly, stupid, and extreme sentiment for goody two shoes. Now I realize just how right it was. Professionalism above all else.
Personally there's plenty of things I wouldn't want my grandmother reading not because it's offensive but because it'd just have her asking too many questions; we're talking about a woman who once asked me who Mario is (in the context of me playing a Mario video game.)
I think a better guideline is "don't say anything you'd be ashamed to have quoted in a Wikipedia article about you."
Boss intro. I grew up with 5 sisters and have watched them go through this at various stages in their lives. I can’t stand the idea of it being the same for my daughter. Much respect for calling it out brother❤
Big props to Levy for spending five minutes calling out those reprobates! True class right there!
Please tell your coach that he's doing a tremendous job with the live coverage. Incredibly insightful.
He's a natural at it and his varied commentary and analysis made the stream very enjoyable. Good call Levy on the addition of GM Arturs!
Yeah lol I enjoy his commentary. I think it's mostly cuz he looks like a good genuine guy and I love those kind of people
mr. artur is a prophet, great streamer honestly
As a female chess player myself I had to click off of the livestream when live because I was offended by the comments on your opponent. Those people are idiots who wrote those comments. Your opponent was very skilled and should not get any hate for just playing chess.
Sorry you had to leave, we, the moderation team, were trying to catch and get rid of the nasty comments as fast as we could, but TH-cam moderation tools are lacking compared to twitch
@@Isabelpotatogirl wait cant you Like uhh make the Chat unvisable?
Of course this shouldnt even be necessary buuuuut i think it's possible to do so maybe keep that in mind If you see something Like that again (even tho i think now where Levy is aware of what happened He will do His best to manage that)
But tbh i can Imagine that it could be weird to watch the Stream even when you make the Chat invisible because alone the knowledge that there could be Bad stuff in Chat could make It weird so maybe i didnt Count that in
@@neondactyl tbh Not trying to be rude or sum but i was in both streams and i saw that that stuff was Happening in both streams, also on Twitch and some stuff didnt got moderated (which of course can Happen, Just wanted to Point Out that this isn't a TH-cam only Problem)
But yeah, on TH-cam it was definetly worse
So sorry that you have to deal with those ignorant and idiot people
@@mequana thank you and no this isn’t rude to say it is just a problem everyone needs to acknowledge :)
Im glad the biggest chess TH-camr is willing to stand up against the misogyny and bullshit women see in chess.
Wow, seeing Levy talking about equality in the stern manner that he did really made me respect him so much more than I did before. Not seen this side of him and I'm honestly so happy to see him commend his live stream chat's behavior, it's something that's very rarely seen in a public way like this
I don't comment. I am an old man. I just sit back and enjoy your content. I do my part, and you do yours. Today, however, I am compelled to give you an, 'At-a-boy.' You handled the comment issue with no ambiguity and grace. Well done, Levy.
By the way, you enunciate so well that I watch your posts on 1.5 speed and catch every syllable.
You are SO right about good enunciation! No way I can speed up though, because I need time to follow his moves and explanations.
I watch everything on youtube at 2x, but levy does so well, that I could watch at 2.5x or even 3x I bet, if only they let me
Levy, I want to commend you for taking a strong stand today. Your message about respect, especially towards women, is so important and shows the true character behind the content you create. It's not just about the chess-it's about the community and the values you promote every day. Thank you for speaking up and for always striving to make this space better for everyone. Proud to support a creator who values respect and positivity as much as you do.
Lil bro quoted himself💀💀💀💀
@@EnverHalilHoxha1917so?
@@EnverHalilHoxha1917lmfao the nigga edited the comment dawg 😂
I feel like a student and Levy is the teacher saying “In my 40 years of teaching…” and I’m kind of scared.
Same feeling, but this is the only time it was well deserved. That Live Stream chat was awful.
@@Thirsty555
I havent finished the vid completely yet, but what did live stream comments say?
@@nikkivanes34371:40 prolly sexism lmao
@@nikkivanes3437 I don't remember exact quotes, but they were practically catcalling her.
@@Thirsty555yeah not only that also Bad stuff like "women play women bad" or even worse stuff
Hi Gotham. I don't think I've ever commented on one of your videos before, but I'm a long time viewer. I often recommend you to a lot of newer chess players (not necessarily to learn about chess, but rather to develop and grow their passion and love for the game and the community). You are a wonderful influence and entertaining individual.
I'd just like to thank you for the first five minutes of this video. I was watching another youtube video recently where during the game, a woman played an incredible, beautiful move which essentially won the game on the spot. And like a gangster (as you would say), she played it, got up from the board, and walked away to grab something to drink. I immediately had to scroll to the comments to see what people had to say because I felt like it was an awesome moment. To my delight, I found out many/most of the comments were timestamping when it had happened and I thought I had found comraderie with my fellow chess players. That was short lived, however, as to my dismay they were all timestamping the moment due to her butt being in view for half of a second as she stood up.
It's absolutely disgusting and it's absolutely the reason why fewer women play chess. Just two days ago I was teaching a new player how to play chess. The next day, his brother was making fun of him for being "beaten by a girl", as if gender has anything to do with chess ability. Luckily I am a strong enough player to put him in his place when the brother came to challenge me as well, but comments like these show that there is still very much in the way of bigotry in the world. I can only hope the newest generation of chess players can be more accepting and respectful.
@BunniBuu thanks for being a chess role model and sharing your passion with others!
@Gotham Levi I sat my 7 year old daughter down to watch this intro to show her that even though it WILL happen to her in life, there will always be people fighting for her as well.
I met Levy today. reading chat ever made me feel second hand embarrassment like never before. Kudos Levy, see u at 9:30 tomorrow!
That's awesome, have a great game tomorrow! I'm sorry to say I'm gonna be cheering against you
@@gollumarx im not playing against him lol, that would be sick, he’s in the masters, im in the Open B. There’s the masters, then the Open A, B and C. My FIDE is 1655 ☠️
@@GMDennis you are still like very good I am 800 elo
@@GMDennis ahhh ok, your nickname had me hahah wish you a great (and winning) game tomorrow then!
Is that Eastern time? And will it be ok TH-cam?
Very good Levy, totally agree with you. Respect is fundamental over all! Good luck and blessings from Puerto Rico
I'm glad that rather than ignoring the comments Levy condemns those who ruined the livestream for everyone. The disrespect shown to his opponent and, through insinuations, Levy's wife were beyond disgusting.
I didn't watch the stream what did the comments say?
@@lenzelot983 just all around disgusting stuff about the women being a slut who was flirting with levy (apparently thats why she didnt lose miserably) they also said a bunch of other awful things.
@lenzelot983 A lot of sexist comments and innuendo over how Levy's and his opponent's names are so similar. I rarely watch livestreams, and I was reminded again why that is a good thing.
@@lenzelot983 a lot of comments about his opponent's appearance
@@lenzelot983 i remember a guy spamming something like "a draw against a woman is like a loss". Dude is probable an 800 and she would destroy him 100/100 games
3:22 Gotham Chess W speech moment
- Speaks up on misogyny
- Recaps his game
- Refuses to elaborate
- Gains respect from women and men alike
- tells us buy his Caro-Kann course
- Tells us to 'get out of [here]'
jokes aside, Lucy is a LUCKY woman.
Very honorable of Levy to educate the internet, who would have thought
Why say 'who would have thought '? Levy has always been respectful of women 🤷
@@mosiah.torresand has also made a career out of educating the internet so i find nothing surprising about the rant
His carrier is teaching tf u mean
Dinabelenkaya words ... Do you know my Fide rating...
No No No.... so cute to hear.... hahaha ha.. I watch that shorts again and again...
more commenters trying to downplay the thoughts and feelings of women
I have never really understood the bias against and exclusion of women in chess. In my second chess tournament ever I lost to a girl who was the same age as me but obviously a lot stronger, being a 1600 elo player while I was only 1300 at the time. I thought nothing of it as she was obviously stronger than me, and probably even a little underrated. Chess is one of the most beautiful combinations of art and skill, and should be welcoming to all people.
They want to exclude everyone who doesn't look like them or pee standing up. White male supremacy is suffering in the U.S. and its supporters are not going gently into that night.
its not about chess. It's just what certain types of boys say in any situation when there's no repurcussions.
Hundreds of cultures and peoples across the world over hundreds of years have all, independently of one another, put MAJOR restrictions on their women. It's a problem much deeper than Chess
I think it's because men with big egos feel threatened by strong women in the game, especially when they get cooked by them. We need people to do what Levy did in this video and call it out, and beyond that encourage our friends to ignore the comments and play on
It's justt a stupid cycle: Women experience toxicity in men dominant spaces > Women in general try less or don't even bother because of the toxicity they experience (who wants to dedicate their lives to a game with a comunnity that doesn't respect them?) > People start being toxic and saying that women are bad at chess in general because they don't have as many achievement as men > Women experience toxicity. It just feeds itself.
And they have the audacity to bring up thing like ''genetics'' or some bullshit when they're part of the reason we have less women that are masters in chess. Being an elite player is already hard enough, imagine if part of the community was also against you and the number of men playing the game is just a lot higher. Of course, less women are getting to the top. It's just statistics.
I basically never comment on videos, but I wanted to make an exception for this. Respect for standing up and speaking out. Great creator, great chess player, great person. Thanks!
DAMN! I loved this. Deep, deep respect for not permitting vile behavior. We need more people like you to build a proper society! Thanks!
Well said, Levy. This is one thing that people need to understand. Insulting anyone online and getting away with it without any consequences has made people way too comfortable. It's not about gender anymore. It's about anyone. People think it is funny to throw mud on anyone's face and then calling it a joke. Sick mentality. Pathetic behaviour.
thank you for speaking up for women in chess and in general, seeing it live was a little demotivating but seeing you directly adress this makes me honestly happy! ❤
Levy never fails to respect women!!
Levy never fails to respect all human beings.
Massive respect Levy for calling that stuff out! You're a legend, good luck in the rest of the tournament!
Thank you for starting the video this way. We need more of this open/honest talk. It's absolutely insane that being kind, supportive, and uplifting to people needs to be defended.
OMG your opening to this video was AWESOME! Respect dude, this is what real courage looks like folks.
omg, you can tell hes still pissed off at those comments throughout the entire video. Proves hes legit imo
maybe not the ENTIRE video. I commented early, but still the first quarter
Ong... no death stare, no jokes nor smile LMAO
He is straight to the point to fight misogynism
What a gentleman this guy Levi!
it hurts that this still needs to be said. Im a teenager and very sorry for others behaving like this. Big respect for you for
calling that out
People have been disrespectful to female chess players for too long, good on you for speaking out about it
who now?
Yeah... yet what you should be asking is if what they are saying is true or not, not if it is offensive.
Note I don't even know what was said but with how stupid the whole "women in chess" has always been it shouldn't be a surprise, afterall thete shouldn't be a separeted league for women in chess with separated elo which requires lower qualification to reach the gm title.
@@kintsuki99 figure out what was said before making a comment
@@Jasmine-yw8pl I'm pretty sure some of the comments were stupid and outright false. However, this is the internet. Any public figure should have the thick skin to ignore these comments, because addressing them like what Levy did here will change absolutely nothing except giving attention to that type of behavior. What Levy said has already been said a thousand times, and it will be said more in the future, and nothing will change. That's the way the internet works. Nothing will change the behavior of those people, especially when they go anonymous like that, what should be taught more is for people to have a thicker skin. If anything, the more you ignore that behavior and give it less attention, the less these people feel the urge to comment these type of things.
Love to see Levy standing up for his opponent like that
As a women, thank you for lecturing the kids about being respectful towards women. Thanks for making this a safe space for women chess players. As the kids say, W Levi.
Marry me
That is one of the best refutations of poor behaviour I've seen in a long time. Well done for not sugar coating. Good luck with the tournament
Levy went on a rant and we all love it.
yes a good rant
Thanks Levy. I have a 14-month-old daughter and I'd love to share this game with her one day, and I'm also terrified about how girls and women are treated in chess. We need your voice, and probably a lot more voices, speaking out.
Sadly a spam bot copied your comment and got more votes!
I was not expecting a 5 minute rant on sexism in the chess community, but I'm here for it
The women that you’ve played would absolutely steamroll any of the people in the comments talking all that shit too
Glad you adressed the comments Levy. You are great man!
Thank u Levy for pointing out the rude comments, you are the best
Indeed
Maybe it’s not a good idea to bring attention to the negativity? Trolls aren’t gonna be stopped by a lecture lol
@@felixjohnston3402 So we should just leave them be? Yea... I don`t think so. Many people here love Levy and I believe some of them really took his words into consideration. It`s a dark time for the internet (Not to sound dramatic but you know what I mean)
@@fikusul21 yes, you should not give trolls the attention they want. It’s the whole reason they exist. Internet 101.
Glad I didnt read those comments. As a woman playing chess I can say: thank you for the first few moments of the video. Sadly that is the reality of women playing chess.
Thanks for speaking up about this. As a female, I have realized that I just can't look at chats or comments when it's content surrounding a female playing chess. It's truly disgusting and a shame because I want to see more people like me playing chess and not excluded or harassed over a factor she can't control.
Thank you!
Levy might not be a grandmother by title, but he will always be my grandmother
This touched my heart.
Wow, thank you for calling this out. It's not "woke" to be a decent human being.
Loving the Levy 2.0 chess content all around.
Unfortunately, for some people, that is their exact definition of "woke," whether they admit it or not.
Dear Levy, I am a 42 years old chess player from IRAN. I like your videos and in these three days, I was watching your games. You are doing an expensive job by trying to be a GM. I appreciate you and I really wish the best for you.
I am a lecturer in Biophysics in Tehran university and yesterday I did not go to my class and did not teach, only to have time to watch your games live.
Go on and know that there are many people in the world that know the cost of your work.
I apologize you and all who read this comment for probable grammar mistakes in my writing.
Best regards from Tehran, IRAN.
Good job failing your class for entertainment
@@Enpassantys Dear Enpassantys, It is summer and the new course will start September 10. In these days I go to university to help the students. I myself have chosen to spend my time in summer for them to understand the next course better without any income or duty.
It's funny that I see people that spam and say mean things on livestream but here they are like "yeah levy tell them" anyway respect to levy for trying to end this madness
I mean, I doubt they're the same people...
Props to Levy for that intro, way to use your platform
Hey Levy, Jarocka is pronounced as "Yarotska". C in Polish sounds more or less like "ts" in "lets" . You've done well anyway :) btw. huge respect for your message today. It's a cancer of our society to disrespect women on daily basis.... huge part of "lads culture" unfortunately.
Well done for calling out the sexism. Disgusting behaviour. Well done Levy, thank you 🙏❤️
major respect for speaking up, you really shouldn't have to. its really disgusting
Props to levy for bringing more attention to the trolls. Nothing stops trolls more than calling them out.
Total lack of empathy online makes me sad. A streamer I liked when I was younger killed himself because of online comments. For a few days everyone is like “we have to be better” but as time goes on nothing changes
he’s done with this
Yes
Yes
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NO WAY FR BRO ?
holy what an absolutely based rant at the begginning. I love you Levy
I am proud of u Levy for addressing the problem from the live chat. as a teenager i was really feeling awkward while I was on the stream. Again thank you man.Love you man hope u win the next game.🇮🇹 is with u
btw teenagers are just older kids so you are legally literally and actually still a child or minor thx
bcs you might be under 18 but if 18 or 19 then nvm
@@AaravMoharil yeah i am 16...still a minor but there were actually some teenagers younger than me in the chat writing those things....
@@minigamer4361 yeah nice so you are still a kid me myself am 12 in fact
Good on you for calling out idiots.
"your time is running out" omfg get em levy
THANKS LEVY for adressing the absolutely disgusting messages in your live stream chat today
People are way too stupid to realise that hiding behind their screen, writing mean comments for a 2 second dopamine rush, doesn't make them better, smarter or cooler. Lots of respect for calling them out directly, probably the most educational moment in their lives squeezed in 2-3 minutes! ❤
Preach it, brother.
Spot on Levy. I really appreciate you calling this out.
Finally someone adresses the issue in youtube livestreams
Thank you Levy
thank you for speaking up about this, disrespect of women is genuinely an epidemic all over the internet but i’ve noticed it especially in the online chess world.
Levy, good on you for addressing the chats, very well worded. Would it be possible to make the livestreams members only? I know it takes the livestreams away from a lot of people with ill intent.
you should not judge people for their actions, instead you must judge them by their response to being told they are wrong.
I dont want members only.
Maybe some moderaters checking the chat and remove inaproprate commencts from the chat.
@@m.rcabrintsandragao-mao2944 That's not enough, in my opinion. Large viewerships attract more trolls and outside viewers than moderators can handle. A barrier is the only way to prevent comments like that. On Twitch, it's great, because you can require that people be a Follower ( for free ) for a certain amount of time before commenting. I'm not sure that TH-cam has a similar option unfortunately.
It also takes the Livestream away from people who don't have ill intent
My man is fuming more about people being assholes to his opponent rather than him not winning the game.
The gigachad.
I love your reaction to this. Not getting demoralized and being positive. This was a very tough game. Your coach is incredible. You keep going bro!
You know it's bad when Gotham gets serious in a game recap
I'm proud of everything you addressed from beginning to end. I could see old Levy being discouraged by the tournament performance. It seems like you are holding strong, and it's good to see.
The bar for civility is so low my man felt the need to praise people for just behaving with basic human decency. Weird times.
Ps: I don't subscribe to the "teens be teens" idea. As a teacher, I've seen teens being the most polite, empathetic beings on earth as much as I've seen teens behave like inconsequential jerks. So, if you're a jerk, that's just it. There's no justifying that.
Lmfao you neurotypicals are so indirecty funny because of how pathetic you are 😂
at least with teens you can have hope, that they might grow out of it and change, much harder to do when you've been an asshole for several decades
@@headofkeks That's a good point.
Hard agree, it is sad thats how little deserves (and rightfully, in comparison) praise as being better. I watched the stream and didnt read any chat, now I feel a little bad that I didnt participate and call out that BS in real time. Its sick how the perceived anonymity of the internet brings out such horrific behavior in people.
For any of you using the teenager excuse. Read some of the writings of John Adams when he was a teenager.
Read some of the writings of Charles spurgeon the great preacher at 16 years old.
Read some of what George Whitefield wrote at 16 years old.
And consider that the helmsman at the wheel in master and commander, a film that was historically accurate to the 1700s naval fights, had a 13-year-old at the wheel of a ship.
Teenagers be as civil and they will be as mature as the adults around them push them to be.
Really well said Levy. This happens throughout life in general. My wife is a highly educated and enormously experienced Senior Manager and the men are very rude/demeaning toward her. She has saved so of their butts and they are still ignorant. You really hit the nail on the head man, thank you and look out for your wifey because sadly she will face it as well.
I find it so funny when Levy looks at the engines suggestions and just looks inflamed by his own stupidity
I don't open the live chat. On anything. Ever.
It depends on youtube channels tbh, some are just weird af or some are normal and chill
Small youtubers have the best chat if it isnt weird
Yeah depends on the stream. Some are just pure degeneracy/trolls and some are really wholesome
Yeah it’s almost always garbage. People desperate for engagement so they post the most outrageous nonsense
The internet is the worst. Anonymity has given people the access and capability to show their true selves. And God its ugly.
He starts talking at 0:01
Ok
thanks, I wasn't sure
When does he stop talking?
Useless
i like useless things❤
Thanks for your comments today. I respect you.
Hi Levi, I am playing chess since i am 5 years old. Thank you for Standing up for us. I personally experienced Bad Treatment Like that too and it is really great that you pointed that Out!
Can't believe people do not understand how something can be hurtful
I think they just don't care
I am proud of levy for speaking out about this.
My respect for him has increased exponentially
Keyboard warriors . Have nothing in life and they disrespect everything . Good thing you pointed that out Levy 👍 Keep up the good work
My man straight telling it like it is! Good man and way to stand up and draw the line! GM Levi!
Some strong words Levy! Good that you spoke up🙏🏻
Huge respect for first 5min, I still read comments here and I doubt you managed to reach out to these kids, so many toxic and dumb comments...
The YT livestream needs a mod.
Thank you for speaking out, man. Everyday I'm more of a fan of you
This little monologue interlude is superb and genuine, we love you Levy !
Back in 2019 I challenged myself to not leave a negative comment on TH-cam for one year. I bungled in the 11 month twice, but kept at it
I’ve accomplished my goal. My goal was to get out of the habit of leaving negative vitriol filled responses. Now I can leave leave positive, often humorous, comments when I like something & I can just walk away without saying anything.
It’s a good feeling to not feel obligated to waste time with unpleasant people or those who feel racial slurs are the highest form of discourse.
I’d encourage those who feel similarly to consider acting likewise.
Cheers!
I rarely comment here, but thanks for standing up against all the nonsense. There are so many amazing women in the chess space and they deserve respect, and it's a credit to you that you're using your platform to promote that.