This was my first *new* laptop. I got it for college. All the previous computers that *I* owned (not family computers) were used - either from the late 70s/ early 80s computers or laptops that were several years old. That being said, I *did* use a butterfly keyboard ThinkPad for a while, and one of those old Compaq laptops which I tried (and failed) to install Linux on (it was harder back then).
I had this apple mac . And I loved it so much. Unfortunately the logicboard got broken several times. In the end I commissioned someone to remove the harddrive. The rest is history. R.I.P. dear powerbook. It was perfect. DVD Burner, wifi, USB, modem, LAN cable, firewire, audio in and out, VGA adapter incl. Some parts of my. doctoral thesis were written by me and my beloved PowerBook. It is so sad.
Back in 2011, I bought a white iBook G3 (snow), it had a similar smelling issue, but mine smelled like sweat, the smell was really strong, I tried cleaning it, I even dismounted the keyboard, but the smell remained there. After doing a quick research, I've found the smell was caused by an adhesive used in the keyboard, which because of the heating of the laptop by the time generates that smell, so many iBooks from the same generation had that issue.
I was given a PowerBook G4 and I wiped it and installed OS X 10.2 Jaguar and it will still load modern SSL websites via Netscape Navigator 9.0. Apple longevity. Mines a Titanium model
About the little area where he talks about the fact that you can delete system apps, I know someone who has a MacBook, and it doesnt have iTunes, because he deleted it.
After Motorola dropped PowerPC, it wasn't worth IBM's time to constantly improve the G5 processor for consumer products, as Apple were the only company using it, and it was only selling in small numbers. Unlike the G4, the G5 was hastily adapted from IBM's server technology, which had very different requirements and attributes compared to a typical laptop or desktop processor. IBM still produce their 'Power' CPUs.
Adding to what the other guy said- The first 970 (G5) was just a single-core POWER4 with AltiVec bolted on. It wasn't even fully compliant with the PowerPC standard (was missing some instructions), which is part of why you couldn't run OS9 on one. Really nice CPU for the time, but I don't think Apple put a lot of thought into picking it as their 5th generation CPU. It was more of a last minute, do-or-die thing after Motorola shit the bed on a 74xx replacement. The whole thing about it being a "housefire", and too hot to ever put in laptops, was always pretty comical to me - it was a server CPU! You never saw a G5 Powerbook for the same reason you never saw a Xeon Macbook - that's not what they were for!
Honestly, even core 2 duos are still useful as a secondary PC. I have an 09 iMac with a core 2 duo, it's basically a 2008 computer but it runs windows 10 at decent speeds and is fun to mess around with. I kind of regret buying it though cause there isn't much use for it. I'd say only for very basic things.
I recently picked up an old PowerPC computer. Ironically, the guy met up with me at my High School, and turns out the computer came from that same high school (the school property tag was on it)
TenFourFox is still supported, but it works better on a G5 than a G3 or G4. Another problem is that all of the old plugins, like Flash, are deprecated and this limits functionality. I used it successfully on a dual G5 at my old job from 2009-15, but a dual G5 is much faster than this 1.33 GHz G4.
Between this and the 2003 Dell inspiron 8500, which do you think held up better over time? I remember on my oldest laptop, the Toshiba Satellite with Windows 98 from 1998, I managed to get a wifi card going on it and actually, the Microsoft Chat program in Windows 98 still works today as in it will still pull up hundreds of chat rooms even though it's over 20 years old. Facebook however, using opera, it only loaded about 30% of the web page and stopped, could be because only 96 mb of ram with a 266 mhz Pentium cpu.
I realize that this is a year old video, but, for the record, if you download and install Leopard WebKit, you will be able to watch TH-cam. The other option is TebFiveTube. What you have here is much more capable than you think.
Also, you can get 'TenFourFox' for PPC (make sure you grab the right version for your CPU), and install the stripped down ffmpeg decoder for H.264 playback (only for 1.25ghz and faster CPU's) This in conjunction with the Leopard Webkit should make it a lot easier to get decent playback on a G4 or G5 Powerbook. 😉
You can't really expect old technology to cope with new standards that simply didn't exist when it was manufactured. Hardware standards, storage requirements, the WWW, TH-cam, movie formats, document formats... they change over time. But old tech will still run old software as well as it did back then. Just replacing the hdd will make it faster.
youview works well to make youtube works. Do you think this would be worth it simply for the novelty/nostalgia purposes? I already have a first gen macbook so i dunno how well the novelty/aesthetic element would play out.
i bought an iBook G4 recently because of the reason that you stated, I wanted to play around on a laptop that has a PowerPC processor. Probably going to keep Mac OS Tiger on it since it might be slower if I move it to Leopard.
I just ordered the 15 in. version off of ebay, but just for archiving my vinyl records. Being i still have a wave editing software that cost me a pretty penny at that time. Lets just say i hate waste.
i own the same laptop.. i used it for word doc... light internet... video playing is bad.. mind you i do have an old ableton live software i believe ableton 7... but i use it to record my dj mixes into it using Audacity.. it works great giving its age... mind i still use it in 2019
Sucks that these PPC Macs don’t commonly have supported GPUs. GPUs supporting QE/CI, some supported QE and no core image so it ran really slow. Core Image is arguable important as Quartz Extreme. I think some of these had either one or the other? I know it’s common to see Core Image just software accelerated or not accelerated at all. I believe QuartzGL can be enabled on these machines to give it a slight performance boost and removing the frame limit afaik, eMacs suffer with removing the frame limit for some reason, probably refresh rate related? eMacs therefore have to have that FPS cap that macOS has.
Well you also have to think that this is a early 2000’s model between 2001-2006 I’m pretty sure. Technology was just at its evolution point. In the “modern” world we are many generations ahead when it comes to electronics.
I wonder how running youtube without the new ui would run on that computer If you want to run go back to the old ui paste "document.cookie = document.cookie.split(' ').filter(o=>o.indexOf('PREF=')!==-1)[0].replace(';','')+'&f5=30030&f6=8;domain=.youtube.com;path=/'" into the console
"Are you telling me this can edit HD video but can't handle a 480p video?". Well, newsflash: it's one thing to playback video from hard drive or a DVD and another thing entirely to stream video through youtube.. i thought that was common knowledge amongst "youtubers". So yes, it's can "handle" 480p video, just not in the form you want it to. I used to own a powermac G4/1.25 with 2gigs of memory running Morphos that could playback 1080p almost smoothly, but couldn't really stream more than 240p with decent speed from youtube.
It's because after Google bought TH-cam, they transitioned to their own compression codec (VP8/VP9) and ditched h.264, which PPC had hardware acceleration for. Back when YT was a Flash/h.264 site and not an HTML5/VP9 site, you would watch 1080p videos on a G5, and 720p on a dual cpu G4. There are actually Firefox extensions that will force h.264 playback, but I've never been successful in getting them to work with TenFourFox.. Most of the time when you see PowerPC people watching TH-cam in TFF or Webkit, they've got extensions and userscripts out the wazoo, as well as a laundry list of about:config tweaks
@@Bingocat bingocat it has been a while i used to watch your videos all the time back in the day and now you are dead :( i forgot about you but i recently remembered and i am sad that you dont upload anymore
Help please,i want to buy one,only for small music projects in garage band, so the question is can you use garage band properly on this device. Thanks a lot.
I have one of these too. I think the only thing it's good for would be the screen for a raspberry Pi... Cos now it's a piece of crap, meanwhile my old windows PC from almost the same era is fine, not as cool a case though
@@CommanderMouse72 I feel like Apple has always been a brand that has trained it's user base well, to upgrade - or face obsolescence. Quickly phasing products and product support out...
This was a high-end machine. School laptops don't need to be high end, just very basic machines. When you have to buy and maintain hundreds, if not thousands of them, a few extra $ or £ on each machine soon mounts up. The fact that they even provide laptops for use by students is amazing... I know from experience that students aren't the most careful of people. Laptops didn't even exist when I was at school. 😁
you have no idea, every modern computer is way more easy and you have no Idea what you are talking about. The DVD Player was installed by an update before 10.5 (leopard) on DVD came out. The things you deleted were not critical by BSD, because it is nothing than a BSD with an interface. On Dos and Windows you can delete what you want. It's nothing special with a modern apple.
This was my first *new* laptop. I got it for college. All the previous computers that *I* owned (not family computers) were used - either from the late 70s/ early 80s computers or laptops that were several years old.
That being said, I *did* use a butterfly keyboard ThinkPad for a while, and one of those old Compaq laptops which I tried (and failed) to install Linux on (it was harder back then).
I had this apple mac . And I loved it so much. Unfortunately the logicboard got broken several times. In the end I commissioned someone to remove the harddrive. The rest is history. R.I.P. dear powerbook. It was perfect. DVD Burner, wifi, USB, modem, LAN cable, firewire, audio in and out, VGA adapter incl. Some parts of my. doctoral thesis were written by me and my beloved PowerBook. It is so sad.
Had to reupload because I accidentally published the video before it was ready lol
hah hah
alien hiabov greetings from the future, try www.myabandonware.com/game/bugdom-dct it might work. How is 1992 these days?
Honestly I'm surprised it played TH-cam at all!
God this keyboard looks amazing.
bingocat i miss you you were a big part of life i remember a few years ago that has changed so much since then
I might come back, I have some video ideas
Back in 2011, I bought a white iBook G3 (snow), it had a similar smelling issue, but mine smelled like sweat, the smell was really strong, I tried cleaning it, I even dismounted the keyboard, but the smell remained there. After doing a quick research, I've found the smell was caused by an adhesive used in the keyboard, which because of the heating of the laptop by the time generates that smell, so many iBooks from the same generation had that issue.
Should have tried deodorant on it ;)
I was given a PowerBook G4 and I wiped it and installed OS X 10.2 Jaguar and it will still load modern SSL websites via Netscape Navigator 9.0. Apple longevity. Mines a Titanium model
The beauty of UNIX rather
Nick Dalzell there was a big demand for those back in like 06,07
@@resneptacle Technically it's BSD.
the port you don't know was Mini DVI.
Thanks!
really that exsists
My first experience with a $20 adaptor and lots of cussing
Oof.
I thought it was mini VGA.
Even more obsolete
3:04 that’s actually for two speakers + ventilation .
0:15 Another fine addition to my collection!
this was my first apple product, it brings back memories 🥺
Mine too 🥰 I still have it lol... recently turned it on. That’s why I’m here! Xx
Very informative, thanks for sharing!
I bought an iBook in 2004 then the first core duo MacBook in 2006. Both worked great for me in college.
please help I need charger for mine just on the video 2004
About the little area where he talks about the fact that you can delete system apps, I know someone who has a MacBook, and it doesnt have iTunes, because he deleted it.
Steve Jobs : Made for Apple Jobs
Tim Cook : Made for an Apple kitchen...
BTW I like some speeches of Tim cook
Haha!
Steve Jobs : made to be used for actual jobs
Tim Cook: cooks CPUs in the name of thin and light
I dare you to spill liquid on it and send it to Louis rossmann
😂😂lol😂😂
Nah i'm good thanks
It’s unfortunate we never got G5 into laptops. I got G5 Quad now, and it is reasonably fast even by modern standards.
After Motorola dropped PowerPC, it wasn't worth IBM's time to constantly improve the G5 processor for consumer products, as Apple were the only company using it, and it was only selling in small numbers. Unlike the G4, the G5 was hastily adapted from IBM's server technology, which had very different requirements and attributes compared to a typical laptop or desktop processor. IBM still produce their 'Power' CPUs.
Adding to what the other guy said- The first 970 (G5) was just a single-core POWER4 with AltiVec bolted on. It wasn't even fully compliant with the PowerPC standard (was missing some instructions), which is part of why you couldn't run OS9 on one.
Really nice CPU for the time, but I don't think Apple put a lot of thought into picking it as their 5th generation CPU. It was more of a last minute, do-or-die thing after Motorola shit the bed on a 74xx replacement.
The whole thing about it being a "housefire", and too hot to ever put in laptops, was always pretty comical to me - it was a server CPU! You never saw a G5 Powerbook for the same reason you never saw a Xeon Macbook - that's not what they were for!
Honestly, even core 2 duos are still useful as a secondary PC. I have an 09 iMac with a core 2 duo, it's basically a 2008 computer but it runs windows 10 at decent speeds and is fun to mess around with. I kind of regret buying it though cause there isn't much use for it. I'd say only for very basic things.
I have that same type of laptop, it’s super slow but I’m trying to get it up and running to actually use in 2020.
Max the ram out and throw an SSD in it and your back in the game .......I got 10.4 on mines and surf the web using 10 4 FOX👍🏿😎
I think you can reinstall preloaded apps from the app store
2:19 that’s mini DVI.
I recently picked up an old PowerPC computer. Ironically, the guy met up with me at my High School, and turns out the computer came from that same high school (the school property tag was on it)
I guess that "power book" doesn't have much power left in it now.
Shawn Burton lol
TenFourFox is still supported, but it works better on a G5 than a G3 or G4. Another problem is that all of the old plugins, like Flash, are deprecated and this limits functionality. I used it successfully on a dual G5 at my old job from 2009-15, but a dual G5 is much faster than this 1.33 GHz G4.
I think that video port is a mini dvi port
The Chess app is important to the Operating System.
Between this and the 2003 Dell inspiron 8500, which do you think held up better over time? I remember on my oldest laptop, the Toshiba Satellite with Windows 98 from 1998, I managed to get a wifi card going on it and actually, the Microsoft Chat program in Windows 98 still works today as in it will still pull up hundreds of chat rooms even though it's over 20 years old. Facebook however, using opera, it only loaded about 30% of the web page and stopped, could be because only 96 mb of ram with a 266 mhz Pentium cpu.
Inspiron 8500 because it can actually run modern operating systems i.e. Windows 7
@@Bingocat Even in Windows XP, you can still use Maxthon browser which is one updated browser that still works with XP and Vista.
2:27 i thing it's a mini dvi
I realize that this is a year old video, but, for the record, if you download and install Leopard WebKit, you will be able to watch TH-cam. The other option is TebFiveTube. What you have here is much more capable than you think.
Also, you can get 'TenFourFox' for PPC (make sure you grab the right version for your CPU), and install the stripped down ffmpeg decoder for H.264 playback (only for 1.25ghz and faster CPU's) This in conjunction with the Leopard Webkit should make it a lot easier to get decent playback on a G4 or G5 Powerbook. 😉
You can't really expect old technology to cope with new standards that simply didn't exist when it was manufactured. Hardware standards, storage requirements, the WWW, TH-cam, movie formats, document formats... they change over time. But old tech will still run old software as well as it did back then. Just replacing the hdd will make it faster.
Of course! Definitely a fun computer to mess around with though. You’d be surprised as it supports a few of what you mentioned!
I have a computer with an i5 2400, it's from 2011 and it still runs as fast as a new PC and does most of what I want it to do :)
youview works well to make youtube works. Do you think this would be worth it simply for the novelty/nostalgia purposes? I already have a first gen macbook so i dunno how well the novelty/aesthetic element would play out.
i bought an iBook G4 recently because of the reason that you stated, I wanted to play around on a laptop that has a PowerPC processor. Probably going to keep Mac OS Tiger on it since it might be slower if I move it to Leopard.
Bingocat the genius behind the keyboard lol😅
Hey bingo, do you plan on ever bringing the linux distro series back?
When apple was still good
I miss you Steve Jobs!
I don't think the thickness of the laptop will affect how well it works.
Personally, I don't mind a thicker laptop. Usually they are a lot easier to service as well.
Try clear the dust out the vents, that really holds onto the smell.
I miss the cd slot
I just ordered the 15 in. version off of ebay, but just for archiving my vinyl records. Being i still have a wave editing software that cost me a pretty penny at that time. Lets just say i hate waste.
I have a PowerBook G4 laptop without a working power charger. Do you know if I can charge/operate the computer using the USB port? Thanks
i own the same laptop.. i used it for word doc... light internet... video playing is bad.. mind you i do have an old ableton live software i believe ableton 7... but i use it to record my dj mixes into it using Audacity.. it works great giving its age... mind i still use it in 2019
How to open
nice video video bro i was thinking on getting a macbook the 2009 model to get me started
The old Mac notebooks have such a weird smell. Something about the adhesive...seriously smells like BO.
Sucks that these PPC Macs don’t commonly have supported GPUs. GPUs supporting QE/CI, some supported QE and no core image so it ran really slow. Core Image is arguable important as Quartz Extreme. I think some of these had either one or the other? I know it’s common to see Core Image just software accelerated or not accelerated at all. I believe QuartzGL can be enabled on these machines to give it a slight performance boost and removing the frame limit afaik, eMacs suffer with removing the frame limit for some reason, probably refresh rate related? eMacs therefore have to have that FPS cap that macOS has.
Well you also have to think that this is a early 2000’s model between 2001-2006 I’m pretty sure. Technology was just at its evolution point. In the “modern” world we are many generations ahead when it comes to electronics.
I still got this mac powerbook G4 I need a charger for mine the pin is broken please help I need the charger
Hey can you make a video on Is Windows 7 still good to use / Windows 7 end of support on January 14 2020
Sir
The port that you said you didn't know is a DVI Port
I wonder how running youtube without the new ui would run on that computer
If you want to run go back to the old ui paste "document.cookie = document.cookie.split(' ').filter(o=>o.indexOf('PREF=')!==-1)[0].replace(';','')+'&f5=30030&f6=8;domain=.youtube.com;path=/'" into the console
Are you coming back I really enjoy your videos
"Are you telling me this can edit HD video but can't handle a 480p video?". Well, newsflash: it's one thing to playback video from hard drive or a DVD and another thing entirely to stream video through youtube.. i thought that was common knowledge amongst "youtubers". So yes, it's can "handle" 480p video, just not in the form you want it to. I used to own a powermac G4/1.25 with 2gigs of memory running Morphos that could playback 1080p almost smoothly, but couldn't really stream more than 240p with decent speed from youtube.
It's because after Google bought TH-cam, they transitioned to their own compression codec (VP8/VP9) and ditched h.264, which PPC had hardware acceleration for. Back when YT was a Flash/h.264 site and not an HTML5/VP9 site, you would watch 1080p videos on a G5, and 720p on a dual cpu G4. There are actually Firefox extensions that will force h.264 playback, but I've never been successful in getting them to work with TenFourFox.. Most of the time when you see PowerPC people watching TH-cam in TFF or Webkit, they've got extensions and userscripts out the wazoo, as well as a laundry list of about:config tweaks
@@NateEweighty Well, that figures..
He's alive
When are you coming back?
Idk
@@Bingocat bingocat it has been a while i used to watch your videos all the time back in the day and now you are dead :( i forgot about you but i recently remembered and i am sad that you dont upload anymore
@@proximitea I might come back. I haven't decided yet.
Wow it was made in the year I was born...
that port you are taking about is mini vga
that port is mini dvi
Help please,i want to buy one,only for small music projects in garage band, so the question is can you use garage band properly on this device. Thanks a lot.
Yeah, you can. I use it on my ibook g4, (which is cheaper) and its fine :)
If you can find a browser that can support it and it can run it well then it is
Just got a 17” for free to add to my collection
Hello everyone today I tell you if apple 2004 good or bad
2:23 That's a Mini DVI port :)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini-DVI
Wasn't this computer issued with a 20-inch monitor, or was 17" the largest?
1:30 actually all iPads in 2019 has 4:3 aspect ratio
It's actually 2001 not 2004 so old right
They made them until 2005
My answer to this title: Yes (even though I can't use blender 2.79 or right-click).
Now do a video on windows 7 end of support
Remember when you me danTDM on Omegle lol 😂
You should do another office tour for 2019
I most likely will
its a display port for external display
i have PowerBook G4.
is very good
That display port is a mini VGA port.
Mini-DVI
Is Good for only writing?
2021?
I have one of these too. I think the only thing it's good for would be the screen for a raspberry Pi... Cos now it's a piece of crap, meanwhile my old windows PC from almost the same era is fine, not as cool a case though
Hopefully apple doesn't pull the same drop of support when they move to ARM,
@@CommanderMouse72 I feel like Apple has always been a brand that has trained it's user base well, to upgrade - or face obsolescence. Quickly phasing products and product support out...
@@kicknitoldskool yep I feel bad for anyone who bought the iMac g5, got like 2 os upgrades and that's it,
Also it’s a mini Dvi
there is a widescreen version too. im getting one lol vid will be up soon
The 12" was 4:3 the 15 and 17" G4S were wide-screen
13:09 wait Mac OS Still has dashboard
From 2004 and this is still better than most of my school's laptops
This was a high-end machine. School laptops don't need to be high end, just very basic machines. When you have to buy and maintain hundreds, if not thousands of them, a few extra $ or £ on each machine soon mounts up. The fact that they even provide laptops for use by students is amazing... I know from experience that students aren't the most careful of people. Laptops didn't even exist when I was at school. 😁
How much did it cost?
Boom Inc.
everything
$40
Mine smells like a smokers paradise aswell wtf...
Make video is still any good using windows 7 in 2019 :)
MrSlan and windows 95
Your voice is very similar to Luka Magnotta's...
Good video.
Hi I have one that I need a charger
You know what else is pretty low for today’s standard? 128gb of space lmao
mini DVI
Let me ask you this, would you subscribe to your own channel? 🤔
HDMI. that’s what what is
Its not working
cool
Exspos-ay
Binger
tuck my life the laptop im using now to watch this is 11 years old . 5h11111111ttttttttt righ ?
you have no idea, every modern computer is way more easy and you have no Idea what you are talking about. The DVD Player was installed by an update before 10.5 (leopard) on DVD came out. The things you deleted were not critical by BSD, because it is nothing than a BSD with an interface. On Dos and Windows you can delete what you want. It's nothing special with a modern apple.
Again, use the right software and get results - my 600Mhz iBook from 2001 doing TH-cam:
th-cam.com/video/TIpTPT8uKOs/w-d-xo.html
Dude do you need someone to talk to or why are you slapping the iBook so much
I fix it
well i think its not usable beacose i has PPC CPU
TH-cam is trash and it's slow on pretty much any OS other than the big 4, Windows, Mac OS, Linux and BSD.
I am writing this comment on a Powerbook G4 and it's a pain to use TH-cam with.
aam aam aam i bored