BJJ Black Belt Gets Destroyed by Skilled Judoka
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Adults doing randori without interference and a mat full of children is a thing of beauty.
Washington Judo Club at Georgetown University had 40 plus adults at any night practice. Many were Shodan and up.
Not many places near Washington DC had good programs.
@@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953 To be fair, there aren't many places like Georgetown Judo left in the US, at least when you compare the numbers of participants and quality with BJJ gyms. Georgetown is indefinitely closed. The closest I've seen was PDX Judo, and now that's gone too.
@@lamesurfer1015is that Jimmy Pedro’s?
@@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953 PDX Judo? No sorry, that was shorthand for Portland Judo.
@@lamesurfer1015 I know that Jimmy Pedro has a great school. Or had… I haven’t looked post pandemic.
Lex Friedman, the podcaster has been talking a lot of Judo.. he has Travis Stevens and Jimmy Pedro Interviews. They could bring some much needed love to the sweetest sport on earth.
I watched the Tel-Aviv Open live and the crowd was amazing..
Another sport that we sleep on is Rigby. The crows in Paris for the Ireland Ca. France six nations game last weekend was insane. Made the Super Bowl look stupid…
On my note… I was just diagnosed with arterial degeneration I’m my left lower leg… my Judo and Wrestling is done until they can fix it or remove it…
I’m sad but the pain was really hindering me. I’ve thought a lot about refereeing but I’m not sure with the local politics….
Have you heard of Jimmy Takamori of Georgetown. I know Tad was running it for the longest. I stopped going a few years back and started teaching to MMA guys… my approach was more Catch Wrestling with a few throws and variations.. I had to hide Judo or they got disconnected. Judo has such a bad name because many say it doesn’t work in MMA…
Why? Our best representative athletes use up
Thier bodies perusing a lifetime judo career. Not much left after a decade of international competition.
A few have done well. Kayla Harrison is a beast. Ronda of course. Rick Hawn did ok, Nastula, Yoshida did well too.. he was well past his prime in Pride..
Many forget Fedor and Khabib both say Judo is a huge part of thier game…
BJJ has really infected the USA with a bunch of bullshit rule sets… I respect it. Gordon Ryan is a god. But he uses Japanese terminology when he explains his techniques… he is great, this is why he is hated.
Fellow BJJ black belt here with 20+ years of experience! Going to judo is ALWAYS a humbling experience especially when you get slammed or tossed at will with ease by someone much smaller. Combining BJJ & Judo at a high level and making it look effortless is a thing of beauty. Thanks for sharing your randori session!
You intuition it's right. At the beginning what we call judo and jujitsu where the two side of the same coin
Can a judoka hold their own on the ground against a bjj guy?
@@slickwilly6868 It depends on the individual athletes, their respective training, conditioning, and the specific rule set. Most of the judo dojo’s have visited which includes the Kodokan do about 80% split between stand up and 20% ground work. BJJ schools are the polar opposite with most of the training on the ground and they only train take downs 2 weeks before a tournament and almost never start sparring standing up.
@@BinhtriVu Agreed! I started Jujitsu/ Judo , decades ago and the curriculum then included more Newaza / ground work than many Judo schools of today. Too much Olympic focus in many modern Judo schools.
Sambo!
I'm a 4th degree Black Belt in Judo and brown belt in BJJ and I approve this message! Way to go Dom for being humble enough to show your randori sessions with a more skilled judoka... There's always such a difference in black belt levels in judo (well in jiujitsu also...) and it's great to see those level differences!
Indeed… the BJJ and grappling rule set shared by ADCC and the like punish Judo players. I’d love to see a mutual rule set that doesn’t punish throws with impact!
Sparring in lowbelt far more brutal than sparring in Blackbelt level.
Nobody is robbing your house anytime soon Kathy and getting away with it! Lol
I call your BS!
True.
To me there is nothing more beautiful in martial arts than Judo done properly!!
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I'm a judo BB and props to this judoka, he's making it look easy. But actually, his balance is excellent and he's strong.
The black belts sweeps were amazing - as a Judoka its really difficult to pull them off with such speed and precision. The moment the BJJ guy crosses his legs he sweeps perfectly and sends him right down. Props to the BJJ guy for taking on someone so talented!
Judo and BJJ have different objectives. Judo goes for a perfect throw, while BJJ goes for submission. I too studied Judo and have a match with BJJ, throwing them was quite easy, as a matter of fact, they wanted to go down to the mat so they could applied their ground work. Once I was down in ground work, my leg got lock up quite fast the first time. Of course, I learned from that lesson and learned to not go down to the mat with BJJ. Both sports are good and has lots to learn from each one, just don't compare it.
I disagree, your looking for Ippon, therefore your looking for control when they fall. It's shouldn't get to the point where they have a chance to submit you after a projection. By control I don't mean using your strength to stop them from moving I mean following the projection and their movement all the way.
@@ermining1 Most Judo throw is no longer a throw, more like a roll over. That is why in MMA, just a Judo throw would not win a match. BBJ 's objective is to win a match. Tradition Judo training was aim improve a person behavior and intelligent, not winning a match. Olympic Judo destroyed this objective. If I want to see a good throw, I watch Sumo, much better technique.
@@pchow2ca a throw doesn't win in mma because there is no submission. Using your same logic, pulling guard doesn't win in mma either. Look at fighters like Rousey and Karo. They effectively use throws and transition them for wins.
Also, judo was created during the peace era, just like all other Japanese do arts - it allowed safe practice of techniques and eliminated techniques from jutsu styles that were considered unsafe. Aikido came from aikijutsu. Karatedo came from karatejutsu. Judo came from jujutsu. Bjj came from judo. Judo has plenty of groundwork, but it emphasizes throws. Bjj took the opposite route. They eliminated most throws and focused on groundwork.
In Judo, the goal is ippon and ippon is not limited to just throws. You can ippon by pin or submission also.
What makes Judo groundwork different from BJJ is that in Judo you have:
- time limit on ground
- pins so cannot be patient when mounted
@@ermining1 I agree with you.. an ippon is just the first part.. ALL Ossaekomi and Ne Waza technics can prove that
You have a positive attacking style and aren’t afraid to be countered. I like your judo. Your first ppartner is very, very good.
Respects to the jiujitsu guy for coming out of his comfort zone!.
@Arid Sohan Rude. For background, I did judo before focusing on basketball. I echo the original sentiment, I respect someone stepping out of their comfort zone
@Truest Cato Maior4Evah hahaha bless ya...let me guess you got wrecked by a Jiujitsu guy once and now you hate.
3:53 I love how the judo wrestler is mindful of the bjj wrestler's safety, stopping his throw mid-air to land softly. These guys are real gentlemen.
I caught that too, so awesome. Nothing but respect
The gentle way is the meaning of JUDO
Judo is easily the most visually appealing grappling art. It may not be the most popular in the US but watching Randori like this is 1000x more gratifying than any roll.
In Europe judo is way bigger than BJJ. But BJJ is growing rapidly currently.
As a judoka this video Remembers me why i do love so much martial arts, humble people, respect and discipline. Thanks for this video, you' re an example!
Great exchange! Also nice to see a BJJ guy, work with a Judoka in a positive manner. Respect to both👍💮
People that practice Judo know that while doing a colossal throw there's this huge rush of adrenaline, that feeling is special
Is it not dopamine?
@@doriankiss1 Adrenaline is the excitement hormone, dopamine is the pleasure hormone. Both may be present, but the biggest one during a roll is adrenaline
Dom, you are my new fav BJJ coach. Thanks for showing your wins and your losses! Love your content
Fantastic video. Thanks for posting and for the slow-mo replays so that the viewer can catch the details. Oss.
Good dojo, and skilled students !
it's nice to see them take care of each other. I'm also training judo and always concerned with injuries. And good to see they are in happy atmosphere. Good vid!!
I greatly appreciate the slow-mo replays. It helps me understand the finer details.
I had the honor for shortly training with Jerry Wee, 7th degree Black Belt, and former world competitor in Judo... when I met him he was shorter than me, less in weight, and couldn't really use his right arm from former injuries... he put my ass he ground instantly over 30 times in a row and 'took a break' because he got tired lol
Judo is no joke, brutal takedowns and some crafty pins and submissions even. Loved the training
Unless you actually experience it first hand - some ppl will never understand the thrilling, exciting, scary, but exhilarating feeling of even a smaller, shorter but more skilled judoka getting their hips under you as you go sailing ass over tea kettle!
I love it. Really nicely done with the automatic slow replay afterwards. Well done gentleman!
I m so glad I kind of grasp some of the techniques, thanks to the slo-mo. Just started the never-ending journey of Judo myself. Thanks Dubious Dom!
More slomo 📝 got it! You’re welcome!
Foot sweeps and grips is what it's all about if you can Master those everything else will come easy. It allows you to build a nearly impenetrable wall of defense, counter-attack and attack.
Congrats Dom, your Uchi Mata is excellent!! The gentleman in blue is amazing, really fun to watch...and shout out to the Tani Otoshi at 4:00, that's my favorite technique, and he executed flawlessly... good stuff
That Tani otoshi Is Just poetry
In grappling, as someone with a judo background going into jiu jitsu, while my class does not allow us to do standing throws so much (we would slam into another group), the judo helps me take top position and learn the sweeps and reversals.
Have the same problem but in my Situation the reason is because our mats are too thin and too soft...
Your gym is soft smh
Come to Mexico. Every roll starts on the feet in the gym I found. BJJ 👍
Judo Black Belt and beginning ( Blue belt ) in BJJ here.
Well done for the humbleness of posting this video brother ! This is definitely the judo spirit.
Your O-Soto Gari and Uchi Mata are looking good by the way, in randori’s with BJJ guys they won’t see them coming 😁💪
Love the always learning mindset. Arguing online = time not improving. Im subbed.
Very nice randori - relaxed, technical and generous. Well done to all!
Dubious Dom - thank you for sharing!!!! too many ppl, especially high-ranked BJJ students do not want to share videos of themselves unless they are 'winning". This is a great, inspiring video to s\how that we are all students and always training and learning. I got so hyped after watching this video, I tied an old belt around a tree and practiced throwing my hips into it like old-time training.
Thats awesome training there. Hard work. Fun. No egos. Well done!! Thanks for sharing this!!
The slow mo feature is great. Gives the viewer a chance to truly appreciate what's happening technically
Some very good judoka in there, your uchi mata are pretty good, and a couple of nice setups to go with, that uchi counter the one guy pulled off was flawless.
Good shit, dude. And thank you for the slow mo replays too. 👌🏻
When he went fot that uchi mata and the other guy just wasn't there was amazing. The ability to anticipate and avoid the attack was quite impressive.
Judo is tough to do! We have a number of judokas (many are dan ranks) at my BJJ school in Northern Japan. Their hands are like talons. Their grip is incredible! Many times I'm flying during randori. The advice they give me is awesome. There is so much put on the table.
I started with Judo and moved to Jiu Jitsu, Jits is like Judo with the brakes off, you are so much more free! I imagine moving into the more restricted ruleset would be extremely difficult :-)
That Tani Otoshi @4:00 is a thing of beauty!
I definitely feel like more of us jiu jitsu players should start doing judo its such a good skill to have
Only if they plan to compete in the GI. Otherwise, don't waste the time. Train with high level, explosive wrestlers if you have access to them. I only, really, fell into Judo and competed in college. The same amount of time wrestling at that level would have produce the same if not BETTER results in my skill set. Especially in my case since I only teach, train and plan to compete NOGI. I haven't worn a gi (maybe with the kids) in training since before COVID.
@@N.S4L4S I’ve done no gi judo with Greco Roman wrestling so it takes getting used to it but eventually it became natural to me.
We regularly have cross over sessions with a Jujitsu society, gotta say, its usually very one sided, to the point where most of the jujitsu now come to our Judo sessions
@@urbansilverstar that makes so much sense, we’re really good on the ground but suck at getting to the ground haha
Dope Been Watching Bro Thanks For Upload
Awesome video. Thanks Dom!! 🙏
just some guys, sparring and having fun, so beautiful to watch, esp that defense of the "guard pull" (I don't know the Judo name), I will play it again in slow motion to apply later in training! Thank you, Happy New Year!!❤👊
So interesting to watch. Great slow mo. Thanks mate.
the bjj black belt has some good typical judo moves too, no doubt.
his hipp entry like in that uchi mata, ashi waza, his kumi kata shows some nice judo skills.
Respect to anyone who steps out of comfort and challenges themselves
It’s the only way to grow!
When it comes down to it...Randori is practice, the old adage, "practice practice practice"...you know the rest. Great job Sensei for showing.
Im glad that we always start standup when rolling at our BJJ school. and focus a lot on throws, sweeps. Our teachers are also Judo black belts, so that makes sense. For selfdefense Judo adds more reality for me, throwing an attacker on the concrete with an Uchimata makes more sense , than pulling guard or doing an sankaku/traingle choke while lying on the street. BJJ should practice more standup and remember where BJJ comes from, from Judo newaza specialists like Maeda, who also was flexible by adding different grappling styles on his conquest before entering Brazil.
I can understand that. Judo is great to learn especially with take downs and great sweeps, which jiu-jitsu doesn't have, it gives a good edge on a match or fight. But I love Brazilian jiu-jitsu for its ground game, in which a lot of the time the fight ends up on the floor. That's where jiu-jitsu excels and has the huge advantage and the edge.
My instructor teaches us Judo once a month and his son who's an instructor for the kids class teaches them Judo once a week. My granddaughter was hip tossing her opponents every class. It was so awesome to watch.
Those last 2 uchimatas though…🔥🔥Damn you!
Great randori session. Lots of skill demonstrated by all.
beautiful beautiful randori session. Props to all. showed beautiful throws and attemps
That looks like a beautiful training session.
Dodging that Uchi-mata was just so hilarious!!! great work
Because of you I started doing judo. As a someone that used to pulling guard it’s so fucking hard 😔
Yes it's a whole other realm on the feet. Balance, timing, opportunity, commitment. It takes a lot of practice but the pay off is so worth it. Oss!
I loved my time doing judo. Did it for 4 years as a teenager. Keeps you in shape, and no getting punched in the face! Only drawback is the stubbed toes!
On a sidenote, it's great for those "not serious fights" like stopping a drunk friend or uncle without harming them. I think there should be more discussion of this type of fighting, as I have a feeling it's much more common than people actually trying to hurt each other. Take mental healthcare for example, where the usual strategy is to simply employ the biggest orderly around when physical restraint is needed. They don't always know what they're doing, injuries happen. A lot of judo techniques could be adapted for such use. Does such a system exist?
I dont think that system of training is common in mental health facilities not in kids ones either. Ive known a few people who went into those types of places.
@@isaack5601 I'm not sure there even is a standardized system of training.. Maybe like an extra course for nurses or something, but the places I've seen just used random strong people. There is probably some room for improvement.
Your uchi Mata attempt was good! Your partner has a nice ashi guruma . No matter how good you get, there is always some judoka that can make you feel like a white belt.
What a great find! Thanks for the video's!
This was a great video! Thank you.
Great job Dom thanks for sharing
You have a good style of judo. Nice straight posture and strong uchi mata. Good to see that in a fellow bjj black belt.
Nice takes :) Good to see you are having fun ;)
i love how they roll out almost flawlessly out of every fall.
Simply beautiful, poetry in motion!!
great throws, some great escapes too. lovely judo from everyone.
Yep, would absolutely expect a Judo black belt to destroy a BJJ black belt in standing randori. Just as I'd expect a BJJ black belt to dominate in newaza.
He's a black belt in judo too.
@@handlesonjass yeah was going to say, even though he’s getting thrown around, his movement and attacks are still really good.
Thanks for these great videos. Could you do one on how to escape armbars? Even the tricky ones, and how to see them coming?
Thanks! And please keep up the good work!
J'aime le format de la video, simple, ralenti, sans commentaire. Différents mouvements, différents opposants. 👍
That little hopping after doing ashiwaza so that the opponent may try to sweep.And than the tsubame geashi.That person understands judo.Playing with intentions to beat the opponent.Nice
Sub'd - great content, love the friendly yet competitive randori.. Oss!
Thanks for subbing
So epic. Thanks for posting Dom. Makes me wanna go grip fight ASAP
Of course man, I was sitting on this one a while hahah
Great display of techniques during randori.
Oh man that judo guy's reaction are so good!!
Really good. Great fun. Very impressed by the BJJ guys Judo level. Thanks for sharing.
Love that uchimata counter. Thing of beauty
You are developing a good tachiwaza game. Especially uchimata and ashiwaza. Beautiful
Adding judo to whatever style you do will only make you better. We cross trained one time and just doing it one time improved my throwing. I can only imagine doing it for years on how much better you can get.
I love the slow motion!
Nice, I am a white belt in BJJ and enjoying both the standup and the group game. Thanks for showing your live sessions
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That counter to the Uchi Mata was so slick.
Love it.. at 45 and 2’decades of Judo, Sambo, Greco and Catch… I need two new hips and knees… I’ll limp over to get my bottle of pain killers and watch you guys! Cheers!
May I asked where you trained?
@@sid2daknee USA.. East Coast.. James (Jimmy Takamori was my coach) NiDan under him
Likewise for so many of us who fought points and full contact karate back in the 80’s.
I have blackbelts in BJJ/GJJ and Judo. I love that pictures of Kano, Maeda, Carlos, and Helio are hanging up. This is how it should be.
Holy fuck, 3 black belts in Judo/Jiujitsu. I could only wish. I have a black bet in Kyokushin and Taekwondo, and honestly, I wish I would have started grappling earlier in life. I don’t regret staring out with Kyokushin and TKD, never will, but if I would’ve started with JJ, I would be a weapon by now LOL. Im a measly white belt with three stripes now though hahaha.
@@frankiegodinez8864 no just 2 total. Ine in Jiu Jitsu and one in Judo.
I love the way you do uchi mata! Still waiting for your tutorial :)
either way you look at it...what a beautiful mix we have seen here! Bravo. and to be fair, the BJJ guy did very well. He has a very nice uchi mata .
Great vid Dom
Great content!
This looks like so much fun!
That's why you train both together, they compliment each other perfectly
VERY interesting match.... have you ever sparred an Aikido practitioner? If I understand it correctly, both Judo & Aikido came from Jiu-Jitsu ; it would be interesting to see if you had similar problems, or perhaps advantages. Anyway, good on you for being humble & honest enough to show yourself in less- than- ideal circumstances. Your spirit is large, may it grow enormous!
Love watching judo, I think when I get a purple belt in bjj, maybe I'll start in judo too
Judo is amazing! Fun watching.
that second sweep was NAAAASTY
Is that Jake Flores? If so, he was a beast back in the day. One of the smoothest players on the mat! They used to call him Jake the Snake. Him and his brother Justin are some of the best judo players I’ve ever seen. Probably the best American players to never make an Olympic team.
That is Jacob Flores yes! He's still super smooth.
You are good at doing Uchi-Mata. Awesome.
I really like watching skilled people or blackbelts fight and pick up things or tricks from them and then try them on my opponents when fighting I‘m still more of an beginner and don‘t know a lot of throws so I watch these pretty often
Looks like a fun randori session. No destruction going on.
you can tell by the smiling, they were just having fun.
Also, when you see a judoka or a Bjj black belt with ankle and knee braces, you know they put alot of time into the craft.
That is the spirit of judo we take it as fun
Damn that uchimata sukashi was smooth af
great vid, thx!
We just added a judo class to tour jiu jitsu gymmm, everyone is stoked.
Team Atos 🔥🙌
I really respect you for showing this. I respect BJJ, it's a great discipline, but I think many of its students are REALLY arrogant. They like to show practitioners of other arts failing at BJJ but they rarely acknowledge that the same can happen other way around.
BJJ is by far at its best against people who don’t know BJJ.
Gracies were defeated by an out of shape Japanese.
@@larryoconnor7094 yet most MMA fighters learn the Gracie stuff, not Judo. Nobody is perfect.
@@WeBreakItAllDownRightHere Every martial art is best against people who don't know it, I really respect BJJ, but some of it's students are very annoying.
I have been doing jiu jitsu for 2 year and white belt with no strip in korea
I am wondering if u exercise judo to support jiu jitsu or just as hobby?
It could be different on how people learn style of jiu jitsu at every gyms but i've felt like jiu jitsu is weak(?) at standing
so i've been considering exercising wrestling too
I'm from a Taekwon Do background, but I've done a little bit of Judo, and a little bit of BJJ. I found the Judo guy's were far more technical and cleaner with their throws, and better at throwing their opponents, and the BJJ guy's were better once on the ground, and better at pounding them.
That basically sums up the differences between the two styles, yep.
Unless you get a well rounded judo player that is good on the ground
@@billcipher3946 But the Judo Guy doesn't pound the living daylights out of you when Your on the ground, the BJJ guy will.
True. And thats why i like judo more. I'd rather be a monk that can fight to find peace/middle way instead of an anaconda with some killer instinct. That's me tho.@@pv6304
Stand up wrestling/grappling/ judo is just so much fun