Pizza Stone Bricks VS Steel (15% Cooking difference)

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ความคิดเห็น • 571

  • @wurzelausc
    @wurzelausc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +319

    1) "let's leave the steel pizza a bit longer in the oven, so the crust is nicer"
    2) "The steel pizza bottom is more cooked than the stone one"
    Scientific test Italian style --- :-)

    • @rabenklang7
      @rabenklang7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *lol

    • @dudakoff1000
      @dudakoff1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      exactly lmao

    • @coco.combat
      @coco.combat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      was a reason to dislike this video

    • @morthifer
      @morthifer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      the steel plate pizza was already more cooked at 1st phase

    • @viethuongvothai686
      @viethuongvothai686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Onigorom the steel was gonna win anyway. Base on science and evidence

  • @rjs1955
    @rjs1955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    After working in pizza places that had gas 4 steel shelve revolving ovens and ones that had the standard gas pizza ovens with stone, the steel recouped heat much quicker and was able to make comparable pies one after each other. The stone ovens couldn't as the stones couldn't recoup the heat. Almost 10 years as the leading pie maker in NY.

    • @MrArtVein
      @MrArtVein 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Promote your spot G, tell the people where you at

  • @mchoffner8497
    @mchoffner8497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    For those of us who are trying to perfect our pizza, nobody shows us the way like Vito. So thankful for these valuable lessons in the beautiful art of pizza-making

    • @vitoiacopelli
      @vitoiacopelli  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ❤️

    • @sambrower4237
      @sambrower4237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

    • @aliananzeh8387
      @aliananzeh8387 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you always use only the bottom heating element of the oven? At what temp you set it?

  • @janetn246
    @janetn246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I was watching another video and the chef suggested that if you already have a pizza stone and want to switch to a steel, you can, even better, put the steel on top of your stone. The stone is like a battery back up to the steel.

  • @davidsommen1324
    @davidsommen1324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    Steel has a higher thermal conductivity than stone. So no surprises there. In a wood burning oven steel would probably become too hot, and burn the underside. For a domestic oven however, steel is great.

    • @NoahNobody
      @NoahNobody 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I also think stone will absorb moisture and cool it down. If you are doing multiple pizzas, subsequent pizzas won't cook as well because the previous pizzas will bring the temperature down, unless you wait long periods in between pies. You don't have that problem with steel.

    • @der_woe
      @der_woe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Have tried the steel in my Ooni3 , the stone was much better. It seemed that there was a kind of barrier between steel and dough, even though it had almost 500°C it was almost pale after 2 minutes or so.Like there was a layer between dough/steel which prevented a good contact for heat transfer.
      I sent it back to the seller, and never regret buying a new stone which does the job pretty much perfect.

    • @MakeSh00t
      @MakeSh00t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The taste of bricks are like in fire wood oven anyway....

    • @SuperDamny
      @SuperDamny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@der_woe Did you preheat your steel? How thick was it?

    • @BurkenProductions
      @BurkenProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The stone is better though cos it will keep the heat longer than a thin steel plate.

  • @gregbrunner599
    @gregbrunner599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I went from stone, to cast iron to steel. Each improved the cooking finish better. The steel cut the time down from 10 on stone to 8 on cast iron to 5 minutes on steel with a better bottom finish with the steel. Steel for regular oven is the best outcome

    • @MrArtVein
      @MrArtVein 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I graduated to cast iron last year I guess it's time to upgrade to steel

    • @gregbrunner599
      @gregbrunner599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrArtVein you will be very happy with the steel plate results

    • @irishee1
      @irishee1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      isn't cast iron 99% the same content as a pizza steel?
      that time difference is huge

    • @imanh9193
      @imanh9193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrArtVein I tried the stone and screens but not the steel. To me the best is pizza screen that has holes. The heat is directly touch the botton and crisps in 2 minutes.
      Screens are best to handle , cook and sorage. They are light and cheap. I bought 2 of them . I oil the screen a little bit using brush ,load the streched pizza dough on the screen , put ALL toppings together, do another pizza on the other screen , then I cook 2 pizzas together, I put one on the lower rack of oven and the other on the middle rack because my oven is not wide enough to put them side by sude. Then I switch them according to need after checking the bottom of puzzaz. and get them even higher if i want the bubbles to darken. Very easy to handle , clean and store and no need for the peel , just handle the screen wearing kitchen gloves. Try that before buying steel.

    • @DGRWPF
      @DGRWPF ปีที่แล้ว

      what thiccness do you guys use for steel?

  • @itsmederek1
    @itsmederek1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The bigger difference would be the second or third pizza you make on the same sone/steel. The steel will make them all the same whereas the ones from the stone would be less and less crispy as you continue to make pizzas. This is because the heat in the steel is replenished much quicker due to higher conductivity.

  • @asbjrnfossmo1589
    @asbjrnfossmo1589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    "Cannot eat two pizzas by myself"...
    You don't even need to hold my beer.

    • @TheMabes69
      @TheMabes69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seriously, I'LL BE RIGHT OVER, VITO LOL

    • @jua7265
      @jua7265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wonder what the camera operator was thinking at that moment… 😞

  • @vivianmorresey
    @vivianmorresey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I'm fortunate to have made a wood fired pizza oven and love it. I learnt over the years that for the pizza base to get the crunch it deserves , the temp on the pizza stones needed to be around 350C (660F)...which seems crazy hot, so I guess that is why fire based ovens work so well..and why the steel would be better for consumer ovens. It's not really about the stone vs steel as much as it;s about the fact the normal ovens can't get the heat like the real thing.

    • @genolocascio
      @genolocascio 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes Im still deciding on steel for oven OR a 22" counter top pizza oven that GOES to 650. If stone is cooked on 650+ it would be better than the regular oven @ 550 - IDK

  • @ptwotwo2055
    @ptwotwo2055 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i found this as soon as i bought a pizza stone!!!! I cooked one in a skillet one on the stone the base was so much crunchier, now I'm going to make a pizza steel that fits perfect. thank you for putting your time and effort into these videos Vito much appreciated!!!! my pizzas are getting better every time.

  • @VXIOW_TTV
    @VXIOW_TTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    These videos make my whole day better.

  • @laser00
    @laser00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    my grandpa was a tiger-ace in italy during WW2, after the tiger was hit by an aircraft, it blew out the entry hatch where the crew entered and exit the tank. He took it with him and since then our family is making pizza on this german tiger steel. Bellissimo

    • @pcmacro
      @pcmacro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      strange story lol

    • @smokeskull
      @smokeskull 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Italian tank 8 speeds reverse and 1 speed forward

    • @rabenklang7
      @rabenklang7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I am glad the war was at least usefull in this case.

    • @prosserd
      @prosserd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      is his name Alfredo Carpaneto?
      the only Italian WW2 tiger ace -> th-cam.com/video/6AhFSKOGF88/w-d-xo.html

    • @garethzbarker
      @garethzbarker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow

  • @82ndSbabba
    @82ndSbabba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    First of all, after 2 hours in a oven 2 objects will have the same temperature no matter their material. What changes is the speed at which they get there and the speed with which they lose heat. Stones have a lower thermal conduction, so they will heat and cool slowly, whilst steel has a high thermal conduction hence it will heat and cool way faster (as you noticed).
    For the same reason steel will also transfer heat to the pizza faster than the stone, so theoretically it should cook faster on the steel, but the stone is a porous material, therefore it draws and absorb moisture from the dough. The 2 things kinda balance each other out, so there really is not that much difference.
    The advantage with the stone is that you can open and close the oven door many times without affecting its temperature, while the steel slab will cool and drop a few degrees (not that it really makes a difference for the average Joe).
    By the way you cannot use an infrared themometer to measure the temperature of different materials, because of the physical principal it uses to calculate the temperature. You must use a contact thermometer, or just not use it at all because in this case it is in fact useless (again: after 2 hours they have the same temperature).

    • @comfymoder
      @comfymoder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not true, the steel will have a lower temperature in a domestic oven because it radiates the heat it absorbs faster than the stone. The steel maxes out at around 450f whereas the stone should be around 600-650

  • @jg769
    @jg769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Glad I found this. My pizza stone cracked on the grill yesterday. I think I’ll try switching to steel.

  • @DiskoKDiskoL
    @DiskoKDiskoL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    4:44 a little bit of the mozzarella... A little bit of olive oil on the chees... on the mozzarell... on the pizza

  • @КириллСтволов-ъ2м
    @КириллСтволов-ъ2м 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a Gorenje oven. I turn on the top grill to the maximum (275 C) and convection. An hour later, the stone has a temperature of 320-340 ° C. I put the stone on the second shelf from above. I can send a photo)

  • @luudest
    @luudest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Surprising outcome! Thought stone would turn out better.
    Thanks for this experiment 🙏

    • @codyshin8469
      @codyshin8469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He left the steel one in longer and claimed they were in the same amount of time.
      He shouldve took them both out at the same time.
      Stone is always better.

    • @davidsommen1324
      @davidsommen1324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@codyshin8469 "Stone is always better", what's your evidence for that? I have other experiences, I use both stone and steel.

    • @maniac4141
      @maniac4141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davidsommen1324 bricks absorb water. So, the brick is "expected" to absorb the humidity in the dough and cooking it faster, making it crunchier.

    • @davidsommen1324
      @davidsommen1324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@maniac4141 That maybe so in theory, but only experimenting will tell you if that is what really happens. At these temperatures, to me it seems also plausible that the water just evaporates upward and that the blazing hot stone does not 'absorb' much water, as it would evaporate out of it immediately anyway.
      Don't get me wrong I prefer brick in really hot ovens like wood fired ovens (I have a big one in my backyard for use in summer) but in my experience for the domestic oven the underside comes out better on my pizza steel. I have both a pizza stone and pizza steel and on the stone the underside is really undercooked, especially if you cook many pizzas successively.

    • @maniac4141
      @maniac4141 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidsommen1324 I dont get you wrong, though.... In the end of the day, experiment shows otherwise.. But do you know what troubles my mind? If brick does not absorb the water necessarily, why is there a difference between a pizza cooked with a cordierite brick and a saputo one.. Where does saputo get its popularity from?
      My own answer today is, that I believe the Steel is better than brick, only at low heats. I guess the Results would change in a high heat oven around 450 Celsius..
      If not - "why brick ovens are such popular? Where did they earn their popularity from" is a question to be answered, in my humble opinion.
      I would love to hear your comments about it.
      What do you think?

  • @eliyahusvocalcoaching
    @eliyahusvocalcoaching 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Another very important thing the steel has over the stone is how quickly it pre-heats. I've used both and the stone usually takes about an hour to get to a working temperature whereas the steel takes at most 45 minutes.

    • @madthumbs1564
      @madthumbs1564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's it compare to clad with aluminum?

    • @jaxxbrat2634
      @jaxxbrat2634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bricks are not stone..different density

    • @DanPetrePhotos
      @DanPetrePhotos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Get some fire resistant gloves then heat up the steel on gas cooker to max temperature. Even faster and hotter. After cooking recharge the steel plate on gas cooker.

    • @DanPetrePhotos
      @DanPetrePhotos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaxxbrat2634 pretty much the same specific heat.

  • @Willabear0826
    @Willabear0826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm learning so much from your channel! My husband loves pizza and I'm enjoying trying to improve the art of making pizza. I've tried the poolish method and will soon try the biga method so I can compare which is better.
    I've purchased the stone bricks as you recommended. Question: how do I clean them, and is there anything I need to do before I start making pizza on them.
    Thanking you in advance for your response.

  • @TheJcrandazzo
    @TheJcrandazzo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The stone pizza was taken out sooner than the steel one.. Thats why the difference.

  • @vizigr0u
    @vizigr0u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If anyone is interested in a pizza steel I made mine buying steel plates at a local shop for 30$ and a bit of work (sanding and seasoning). For this price I got 2 8*16*3/8" giving me 16*16*3/8" (40*40*1cm) So much cheaper than most options online and you can get the size and thickness you want! I found a guide about homemade pizza steel on a forum called pizza making, and I really recommend it, I'm happy with my pizza steel plates!

    • @madthumbs1564
      @madthumbs1564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you tried a professional aluminum sheet pan? -Consider the thermal properties of aluminum vs steel. I think they'd pay for themselves.

    • @danemmerich6775
      @danemmerich6775 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did you season your steel plates?

  • @juanete69
    @juanete69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have to take into account that IR thermometers don't measure well the temperature of shiny surfaces such as metals. You need use different settings for the emissivity.

  • @canadiantree2000
    @canadiantree2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steel is hands down better than stone. Aside from the South dead it is virtually indestructible it retains heat just so much better. I've been using a quarter-inch thick baking Steel since 2013 and I've never gone back since.

  • @technowitchjune
    @technowitchjune 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    one other thing to mention, im unsure if it was because of improper use but my father went through like 4 pizza stones, they kept cracking. the durability of pizza steels is better for domestic ovens

    • @stuartgladwin7875
      @stuartgladwin7875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they will crack if they are moved or handled while still cooling down.....they are good but fragile when still hot and susceptible to big or sudden temperature changes

  • @Suriprofz
    @Suriprofz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Leaves the one on the steels longer and says "we do them the same time" but steel is better for the bottom xd

  • @d4vidd
    @d4vidd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Metal will always win at home, at lower temperatures around 250-350°C. Another important aspect is that you use much less energy to preheat, you basically only need to preheat the oven, not the oven + stone (20-25 mins vs 40-45). A regular metal grease-catcher that is included with every oven is perfect. Turning it upside down helps with sliding the pizza, and using a baking paper makes it even more managable and therefore the pizza requires less flour to move around (you slide the paper not the pizza).

  • @remitournier2526
    @remitournier2526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use flat cast iron, pre heated on a gas stove (really hot!), I put my pizza on it while still hot, then put in in the oven on the highest rack just under the grill. I find it mimics a real pizza oven best!

    • @madthumbs1564
      @madthumbs1564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      OMFIG: You're using tech from the Great Depression-era and you think it's relevant today. Aluminum was once more valuable than gold. ;-)

    • @tmccarthy27
      @tmccarthy27 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is your timing with both?

  • @SS-bp8yq
    @SS-bp8yq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My Pizza Steel is amazing! it made a huge difference in my quality of pizza making.

    • @AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy
      @AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi
      I was just watching Vitos video and reviewing the comments ... our family has a Friday pizza day so I’m making pizza from scratch on a weekly basis... would you mind sharing for me which brand/model steel pan you use and at what temperature in your oven... pizza recipe would be a bonus also lol
      Thanks in Advance, Adri

    • @SS-bp8yq
      @SS-bp8yq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy I use Artisan Steel .25" thick purchased on Amazon. I set my oven to 550 and heat the steel between 45 - 60 minutes. I use Vito's Neapolitan Style Dough Recipe.

    • @AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy
      @AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      S Such
      great .... thank you so much for sharing

    • @SS-bp8yq
      @SS-bp8yq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy you're welcome!

  • @jcgarcia1931
    @jcgarcia1931 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo Vito! Once again, solving my pizza related conundrums... Steel vs Stone. My stone cracked recently but now I know what to replace it with. Steel is Real!

  • @suchwork8024
    @suchwork8024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thx for not being afraid to share your knowledge about pizza, you're the best! Greetings from germany.

    • @Tomasz_Piekarski
      @Tomasz_Piekarski 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of knowledge did he share in this particular video? How to open an oven or what?

  • @guitar81sb
    @guitar81sb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the end it boils down to heat conductivity and and heat capacity. While both depend on on the type of material, the latter also depends on the mass

  • @garylester8621
    @garylester8621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just cut me a 14'' round by 1/4 '' thick steel plate. I still need to season it but can't wait to try it.
    This video came along at the right time for me. Thanks' Vito.

  • @inocenciotensygarcia1012
    @inocenciotensygarcia1012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm going to cook the pizza tomorrow, and I didn't have a stone. I found two in my backyard and they look like the ones you have. Thank you for showing us this tip.

  • @bellamaldonado
    @bellamaldonado 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for testing the steel vs stone. I have used both and also found the steel cooked the pizza better.

  • @capsman4747
    @capsman4747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After making about 50 plus pizzas at home from scratch and using thin stones, thick stones, steel plates, aluminium plates, and steel plates with holes, at 500 f, my best results are with a 16 inch holy plate. Love your videos Vito

    • @lyrixxx
      @lyrixxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean by holy plate? Where can I get one?

    • @capsman4747
      @capsman4747 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lyrixxx , it's a pizza pan with vent holes sold everywhere, almost, check online

    • @lyrixxx
      @lyrixxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I'll give that a try.

  • @stephenkayll5241
    @stephenkayll5241 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before my Ooni Karu arrived I used a pizza stone in the oven, turned to the highest setting on the top shelf for about 30 minutes, 5 minutes before putting the pizza in, I would turn the oven off and turn the grille on its highest setting, guarantee a great pizza,a game changer if all you have is a conventional oven.

  • @mockupguy3577
    @mockupguy3577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vito, I adore your videos. If you don’t do it already you should host pizza sampling events demonstrating the difference between different doughs etc.

  • @KowboyUSA
    @KowboyUSA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    He handles the pizzas like an artist making a masterpiece!
    ** Arrivederci to my pizza stone! Hello to a new steel !

    • @TheMabes69
      @TheMabes69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He can handle my dough any day, damn.

  • @zorantesic
    @zorantesic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Vito since two years i make my pizza on a copperplate .....i know copper is very expensiv.....but .the results are incredible and unbeliveble good copper never lose his fiancial worth as a solid material ...try it and you will be satisfied the heat is running into the dough...the copperplate what i use is 400x400x 15 mm thick the taste is also different....incredible good...and you need only 50 min to heat up the plate on 253 celisius best regards from a german scientist

  • @sniperdoc8404
    @sniperdoc8404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @vito iacopelli: Thank you so much for posting these on youtube. You have inspired me and helped me to be a better pizza maker (for my own benefit). I am German and live in the United States and for about 6 years now, I've made my own bread and feel I've gotten quite good at the craft. I love traditional Margherita Pizza and through your videos am learning every day and really enjoying the craft of making good pizza. So, thank you so much for showing your craft and expertise to the world.
    Something I found... using a pizza pan with the holes works much better if some semolina flour is spread on it before the pizza is put on the pan. It seems to really help the crispiness even more. Made my best pizza a couple of days ago. So proud. :)

    • @kenmore01
      @kenmore01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use semolina with a dusting of bread flour on top. It keeps the semolina from sticking to the crust but doesn't allow it to stick to the peel which flour alone does since the dough is wet. Tastes much better IMO.

    • @sniperdoc8404
      @sniperdoc8404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kenmore01 Yes. For sure. I think since semolina is also a bit thicker, I think it allows more moisture to escape from under the dough...? Maybe? The pizza pan that I have does have holes so that definitely helps. But, I also noticed the crust underneath was crispier.

    • @vitoiacopelli
      @vitoiacopelli  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you

    • @fussyrenovator7551
      @fussyrenovator7551 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you cope with the semolina going all over the bottom of your oven when you slide the pizza in? I have the same pan with holes.

    • @sniperdoc8404
      @sniperdoc8404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fussyrenovator7551 Hahaha I am very careful when I move the pan around. xD

  • @aslan7411
    @aslan7411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy has such passion i love it

  • @garethzbarker
    @garethzbarker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to suggest that all these great pizzas you make for these videos could be donated to the homeless. It's a great feeling. Love your videos. Thanks for the help.

  • @miksUSA777
    @miksUSA777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What makes "stone" appealing is not the Stone oven but Wood Fired, Brick Oven. The Wood Makes the difference.

  • @OGGEEZERLIVE
    @OGGEEZERLIVE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Vito. I have a Ooni Koda 16 Gas Oven. Do you recommend using the Pizza Steel in that rather than the Pizza Stone? I've learned a lot from you thru the years. Big ups!

  • @hugeackman7524
    @hugeackman7524 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We bought the BakingSteel in 3/8" and it has changed the game for home cooked pizzas. We are going to try it on our cowboy grill this weekend. Best purchase

  • @gypzino
    @gypzino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you ,vito
    I have just realized the most important thing in pizza preparation is a wood oven

  • @deg00gleurself91
    @deg00gleurself91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The easiest way to know which is better? Pre heat the oven for two hours, then lay a palm on each one and see which one hurts more!!!! I say the steel transfers heat much faster than stone!

    • @madthumbs1564
      @madthumbs1564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I ain't wasting no 2 damn hours for some stupid test! Look up the thermal properties of aluminum and copper.

  • @TariqKhan-mj7yo
    @TariqKhan-mj7yo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    235 about the same as 231. How about I give you $10, you give me $20..about the same! I very much enjoy watching you make pizza...I just couldn’t resist.

  • @michaelcutaia6380
    @michaelcutaia6380 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My biggest question is did you temp the stone and steel after the cooking to see the temps of each? My stone drops a good 25% after a cook and needs a lot of recovery time.

  • @caldoyle1572
    @caldoyle1572 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have recently subscribed to your channel and am enjoying it a ton. For folks seeing you for the first time, let me say this guy knows his pizza. POOLISH!!! If you don't know what it is--listen to Vito. Also--great tip I have not heard from ANY other pizza vid--precook your pizza a little before adding toppings. That gives the very best result. Point 3--pizza steel is the way to go. I had a stone. Now have a steel. Much prefer the steel, especially with an in-home electric oven. A real pizza oven gets 6-700 degrees or more. My electric tops out at 525. The steel gives that little extra heat transfer that gives an excellent crust. Thanks Vito

  • @dheckman1
    @dheckman1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The reality is, for home, you're only cooking 1 or 2 pies. So, stone qorks great if you preheat it with the oven to 440. The steel makes the process simpler. BEST is to put the pie on a ventes steel pan and bake it in your preeheated charcoal grill about 3" above the grate for 5 min, turn, and 5 more. Start at 450 but the move the fire to the outside qhen you put in the pie. Perfect!

  • @whoami6711
    @whoami6711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your passion for pizza.

  • @76kite
    @76kite 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought a lot about buying pizza stone or pizza iron. But I like pizza iron more and more. Thanks for the video

  • @cmasc966
    @cmasc966 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree and if I recall correctly the steel doesn’t get as hot as the stone or brick but he conducts heat better to the pizza.

  • @CB-fv4vv
    @CB-fv4vv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a granite chopping board for £10 and it works perfectly. I put the oven in grill mode and the granite board close enough until it gets very hot. Then I carefully move the hot granite board to the middle position and pizza base gets crispy.
    Thanks for the video.

    • @Emivioricomex
      @Emivioricomex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is granite better than pizza stone?? How long does it take to bake the pizza? Do you pre-bake the dough ?

    • @CB-fv4vv
      @CB-fv4vv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Emivioricomex Not sure if better, but it makes a decent home made pizza. It usually takes 3 to 4 min because of the oven, only reaches 250 degrees. Yes, I get the dough first with tomato until it raises and then take it out put stuff on it and get back into the oven until done.
      The good thing about it is than you cook the bottom to make it a little bit more professional, but I reckon that it is a non perfectly made pizza because of the oven, but at least the best you can get from what I have.

    • @Emivioricomex
      @Emivioricomex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CB-fv4vv thank you for the reply

  • @jaimeTF
    @jaimeTF 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never expected Borat to teach me how to cook pizza! Great success!!

  • @davidannett3322
    @davidannett3322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You're a beast with the peels baby yea!!

  • @edwardprokopchuk3264
    @edwardprokopchuk3264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great test!

  • @Famo59
    @Famo59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done Vito on showing the difference in cooking surfaces..
    Bon Appetite 👍🤓🍷🍷

  • @grannetia72
    @grannetia72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would go for a thicker piece of steel, then there will be more energy stored in the steel and the cooking will be quicker and the bottom will be perfect. Well perfect for home oven, of course. :)

  • @yalimhassam6174
    @yalimhassam6174 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a pizza oven with stone inside. the crust is by far better on the stone than steel. i have tried both.. stone is just perfect. My oven is a flame oven with the stone in it. Pizza is just sooo good and crust crunchy.

  • @brozbro
    @brozbro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use an 18X18 porcelain tile from home depot for $3. Used it for years.

    • @thebigdrakos
      @thebigdrakos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      great tip, Thanx

    • @marceloarnez1491
      @marceloarnez1491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really hope your porcelain tile doesn't have lead or resin filling in it like those cheap tiles Home depot gets from china

    • @brozbro
      @brozbro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marceloarnez1491 It doesn't.

  • @chilam8955
    @chilam8955 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad that I find this video this morning because I am about to order the pizza stone from Amazon. Thanks Vito. Be safe and healthy. Looking forward to see more videos from you.

  • @mclovin8739
    @mclovin8739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a pizza steel and I use it for all my baking, I get perfect bread and no more soggy bottom pies for me :) A kitchen essential.

    • @AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy
      @AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi
      I was just watching Vitos video and reviewing the comments ... our family has a Friday pizza day so I’m making pizza from scratch on a weekly basis... would you mind sharing for me which brand/model steel pan you use and at what temperature in your oven... pizza recipe would be a bonus also lol
      Thanks in Advance, Adri

    • @mclovin8739
      @mclovin8739 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy hi I'm in the uk so I got mine from pizzasteel dot com their's are 6mm thick steel and is fairly heavy, I put the oven on at the highest temperature for at least 20 minutes then turn it down a bit as I put food in, I usually pre bake pizza bases for a few minutes before putting on toppings and return to oven. Bread seems to cook quicker on it as well.
      Its all about experimenting to find out what works best for your steel, oven and the food your cooking.
      As for the steel shop around, read reviews, figure out what size is best suited for you, are you going to cook 2 pizzas at a time most of the time etc.
      If you're a home cook then its well worth getting one.

    • @mclovin8739
      @mclovin8739 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdrianaDiaz-cu1syFor recipes have a look on vito's channel and also chef John has a good recipe for pizza base dough as well, thats where I started.

    • @AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy
      @AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks again... I will check out that site & look...if there is any specific models or further tips or advice you could give me about the pan that would be helpful it would be most welcomed. I love watch & learn from Vito and his enthusiasm ... wish he was my neighbor lol. I’m soon to receive a new oven and so wanted to purchase a new pizza stone or alternative ( I’m doing my homework looking for the best choice for the best result/outcome of a home made pizza in a home oven situation.

    • @mclovin8739
      @mclovin8739 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy have a look at BakingSTEEL channel as well, they have loads of videos worth watching, hope you post videos on your cooking adventures 🙂, I love watching ordinary people cook (non youtube stars)

  • @GiC7
    @GiC7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Vito, you are the best.

  • @Vandan9166
    @Vandan9166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    you did put the pizza back on the steel for another few seconds, did that make a difference?

  • @cheshkat6321
    @cheshkat6321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a fan of cast iron for home pizza.
    Love to watch your dough technique. Been making homemade dough and pizza for years but my dough shaping is weak. I will practice your way.

    • @madthumbs1564
      @madthumbs1564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aside from a grill pan/panini press; cast iron has no room in my home. You're just wasting the environment and your money on outdated crap.

    • @rabenklang7
      @rabenklang7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madthumbs1564 I like my cast iron, why do you hate it so much?

    • @JFPriest
      @JFPriest 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rabenklang7 He is an EcoWarrior..Trying to make Pizza in a Solar Oven...

    • @rabenklang7
      @rabenklang7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JFPriest well, that is somehow understandable. ;-) I must admit, since I watched this video, I have seen pizza steel plates, which claim, that the use a steel mixture with a higher heat cunductivity, than normal steel. But I think, this is marketing bogus. Stainless stell would be usualy 3 times worse. A test with pure aluminium would be nice, it would be 4 times better. I can preheat cast Iron in a blaze on my induction stove, but aluminium not, so i am not inclined to test it myself.

  • @daniellmiller
    @daniellmiller 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Temperature aside, the porous nature of the stones allows steam to escape from the dough much better than the steel which is too dense.

  • @jonasaras
    @jonasaras 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Steel should be 1/2” thick and used in an oven capble of at least 525F. Cordierite stone should be 3/4” thick. Neither works with 00 flour, which should be used in ovens at 800F minimum.

    • @TheWeirdSpartan
      @TheWeirdSpartan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jonas Aras Why not 00 flour and which one would you use instead?

    • @jonasaras
      @jonasaras 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      TheWeirdSpartan 00 when baked at 900F or higher has a tender, crepe-like texture and tenderness. When its baked in a home oven it’s pale cardboard at best. Caputo does make malted 00 flour (Americana, Metro) which browns properly at lower temperatures. Otherwise King Arthur Bread Flour, Pilsbury Bread Flour or GM Gold Medal Better for Bread Flour are all good choices for pizzas and breads baked in home ovens. The bottom line is that a good ingredient used improperly is a bad ingredient

    • @TheWeirdSpartan
      @TheWeirdSpartan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonasaras Thanks for the reply that's some good information.

  • @andreszhoutsang9645
    @andreszhoutsang9645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 2 steel pizza plates at home and was about to spend 20$ on a stone one. After watching this i might stick to the steel

  • @eakerz5642
    @eakerz5642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice experiment: Pizza stone on max height, right under the grill. I heat oven for 30 mins at max temp, then turn on grill which radiates into the stone even more. Cooking time 3-4 mins, crust popping up on the sides getting burned only on the highest parts near the grill. Just wow!

  • @84radecki
    @84radecki 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice ! Thank za porównanie !!! Lubię chrupiąca i wlasnie zamówiłem blachę 😀 teraz wiem że to dobry wybór 🤩🙂

  • @Aidan.17
    @Aidan.17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing ive noticed cooking pizzas in oven is bottom rack pizza bases are always crispiest. I think its cause they cook slower and can stay in the oven longer without the top being cooked?. I tried your 8 hour fermentation method and the pizza base had a lot of flavor almost too much but was too crispy cooking them as I normally do. I'm yet to try your twice bake method but will give it a shot next time i make 8 hour fermentation pizzas.

  • @safaboi203
    @safaboi203 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    best pizza youtuber ever

  • @imanh9193
    @imanh9193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice experiment . For me the best is pizza scrreen with holes . Its best for home ovens.

  • @SecretMailBand
    @SecretMailBand 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for your videos! Your lessons made me love neapolitan pizza and I bought a little pizza oven to make a good pizza - love it!

  • @vitoiacopelli
    @vitoiacopelli  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    PIZZA STEEL OR STONE?

    • @hannya29
      @hannya29 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      steel, can you make video on vegan pizza?

    • @seanwysocki5886
      @seanwysocki5886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stone looked softer to me. I would still go stone

    • @nizzle1111111111
      @nizzle1111111111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vito, but which one was more crunchy? should the stone pulls moisture out ?

    • @usafan96soren20
      @usafan96soren20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hannya29 except for mozzarella pizza is vegan...add a vegan cheese (or no cheese) and here you go vegan pizza.

    • @GustavoBadilla
      @GustavoBadilla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stone

  • @sandrogrima
    @sandrogrima 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ciao Vito. Using a combination of a pizza steel (mine is 3/8" thick) and the broiler you can get a cook on your pizza somewhat similar to a pizza oven. place the steel in the top 1/3 of the oven...heat it at your oven's max temp...turn broiler on high...wait a few minutes and then cook your pizza on the steel. you'll need to experiment a bit as to how close you place the steel to the broiler because different ovens work slightly different. once you get the setup right you'll see amazing results considering you're using a home oven.

    • @AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy
      @AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi
      I was just watching Vitos video and reviewing the comments ... our family has a Friday pizza day so I’m making pizza from scratch on a weekly basis... would you mind sharing for me which brand/model steel pan you use and at what temperature in your oven... pizza recipe would be a bonus also lol
      Thanks in Advance, Adri

    • @sandrogrima
      @sandrogrima 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy check this out th-cam.com/video/AG2H9j7Lxgs/w-d-xo.html

  • @ahmadal-khazaali747
    @ahmadal-khazaali747 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your vids best pizza maker ever

  • @quentinpage5523
    @quentinpage5523 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes very good test,I have a metal one and it’s good. Thanks for video sir

  • @karlvella7627
    @karlvella7627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi thanks for everything. Karl from Malta

  • @TheKnightDrag0n
    @TheKnightDrag0n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you pre heat both for 2 hours, they will be the at the same temp, a better question would be which on heats faster.

    • @timb8095
      @timb8095 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m guessing the steel, you could see it cooling down just as quickly when he had the thermometer on it just with the doors open

  • @the2012fad
    @the2012fad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maestro!
    Thank you for your videos!
    I have learned more about making pizzas from two of your videos then I have ever even known was possible!
    Please, could you list the equipment you use at your restaurant, and your home kitchen?
    What type of dough machine do you use?
    What types of ovens do you use?
    Wonderful videos!

  • @fugemlpriks1876
    @fugemlpriks1876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Vito !!👍

  • @VideoRanger
    @VideoRanger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting and entertaining. Thank you.

  • @matthewjeffries4621
    @matthewjeffries4621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love all your videos, homie. Thank you!!!

  • @mickeyzalusky9312
    @mickeyzalusky9312 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison, Vito. Thank you!!!

  • @junem342
    @junem342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I sometimes cook deep dish in a cast iron skillet... yummo

    • @madthumbs1564
      @madthumbs1564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a fan of outdated romanticized garbage.

  • @RRoosa
    @RRoosa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have used both stone and steel and I get better results from the steel. I heat my steel for about 2 hours before I cook my pizza. I cook at 475 degrees F, 6 minutes, rotate 4 minutes.

  • @damianbutterworth2434
    @damianbutterworth2434 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I work in an Italian steel forge. I should ask the boss if she wants to make them.

  • @erangoldberg8378
    @erangoldberg8378 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You should’ve put the stone and the steel on a higher rack.

    • @vitoiacopelli
      @vitoiacopelli  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ho ok I will try

    • @AkhileshBhaugeerutty
      @AkhileshBhaugeerutty 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it depends from where the heat is coming from. Usually, it should come from the bottom of the oven, so the steel and stone should be on the lower racks

  • @rodandanner2132
    @rodandanner2132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use both. In my Las Vegas home oven, I use a cast iron, and in my home in California I use pizza stones. I use cast iron skillets for my Chicago Style Deep Dish pizzas as well. Great videos.

  • @paulmuaddib1764
    @paulmuaddib1764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm confused, you say they were the same but you let the one on the steel cook longer...I think you data set is invalid

    • @vitoiacopelli
      @vitoiacopelli  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s why I did the compared
      The steel one cooked little bit slower

    • @SparkyOne549
      @SparkyOne549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steel was only 5secs more.

    • @madthumbs1564
      @madthumbs1564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This isn't the only video showing steel winning, but I think steel isn't the ultimate answer. I'm almost certain that my disk bottom pan could outperform.

    • @terranovagreenfarms4184
      @terranovagreenfarms4184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OK GUYS I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONFUSED BCZ YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE FACTS HERE:
      1- THIS IS NOT AN INDUSTRIAL PIZZA OVEN 800*F, IS A REGULAR 500*F OVEN WHERE TAKES LONGER TO COOK THE PIZZA.
      2- ALWAYS METAL HEAT IS HIGHER THAN BRICKS FOR THE SAME REASON IS THAT WE USE BRICKS IN SICILIA (ITALY) TO MAKE PIZZA AND WE MAKE IT WITH WOOD NO GAS AND THE OVEN IS AN EARTHEN OVEN A.ND PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR THE BRICKS USE GLASS BOTTLES AND IRON NAILS TO MAKE THE OVEN'S FLOOR AND WORKS PERFECTLY 800*F AND THE PIZZA'S BOTTOM IS A NICE BROWN COLOR AND VERY CRUNCHY AND TAKES ONLY 90 SECONDS @ 800*F TO BE READY. WHEN YOU LIVE @ THE COUNTRY SIDE YOU USE WHAT YOU GET EVERYTHING IS HAND MADE THE COMMODITIES OF THE BIG CITIES MAKE PEOPLE LAZY AND THE BRAIN SLOW YOU DEPEND ON THE STORES FOR EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW PEOPLE FORGET ALL THAT YOU CAN MAKE AND CAN'T EVEN PRODUCE THEIR OWN FOOD IF THE SUPERMARKET DON'T HAVE IT THEY DON'T EAT IT IS VERY SAD HOW THE NEW GENERATIONS GET LAZIER AND LAZIER RIGHT NOW PEOPLE PREFER TO BUY FROZEN FOODS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T COOK THE BASICS.
      BACK TO OUR POINT:
      IT IS VERY SIMPLE THAT'S WHY VITO SAID THIS IS AN EXPERIMENT TO SEE WHICH ONE COOKS BETTER.
      IRON TOOK LONGER ON THE TOP THAN THE BOTTOM HERE IS WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU USE IRON WITH AN 800*F OVEN THE BOTTOM WILL BE BLACK. (BURNED)
      HOPE THIS WILL HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND VITO'S EXPERIMENT BETTER.

    • @madthumbs1564
      @madthumbs1564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@terranovagreenfarms4184 WHY ARE YOU YELLING FFS!?

  • @tims728
    @tims728 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude you have drunk too much coffee, so much energy😂, love it

  • @Danielle-nz9tn
    @Danielle-nz9tn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So basically i just wasted money buying a pizza stone for my home oven? :(. It was only $30 on Amazon, so no big loss. But everything I was hearing was that the stone cooked it better-more evenly and with a crispier crust.

  • @1vester1
    @1vester1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    humm might get some 1/4 plate steel try a run in 650 deg oven. I am using 1/4 in uncured tiles in it now with good results I can see that the steel would cook better so. I will see...

  • @marceloarnez1491
    @marceloarnez1491 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thermal conductivity of iron is 79.5, of Steel 50.2, red brick 0.6, concrete, stone, 1.7
    Would love to see cast iron pan pizza comparison.

  • @olympiojr.belesario4563
    @olympiojr.belesario4563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Because you taken out the pizza from the stone sooner than the pizza from the steel. You must taken out both with the same cooking time to compare.

  • @derradi8327
    @derradi8327 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vito you are amazing . We love you

  • @deepermantis
    @deepermantis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it depends on what kind of brick used. A good quality stone will cook much better for sure.