Guthrie Govan - Odd Note Groupings - Guitar Tips Licklibrary.com

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  • @MCR4life90210
    @MCR4life90210 10 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Making his own metronome, I love it

  • @Fandirek
    @Fandirek 9 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    1:33 - A doctor prescribing listening to lots of Frank Zappa is the best kind of doctor! :D

  • @Rothley131gamezz
    @Rothley131gamezz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    did this dude just make his own metronome?

    • @kevincasals2008
      @kevincasals2008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @ponceponce4431
      @ponceponce4431 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was amazed too

    • @diasspeed
      @diasspeed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really? You got so impressed by someone looping 4 notes on a looper pedal?? Really???....omg audiences these days...

    • @JerryLeeHowell2
      @JerryLeeHowell2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@diasspeed Hey dummy, link me to one of the millions of other videos where someone uses a looper to actually sound like a metronome. Too stupid to keep it to yourself I guess.

    • @diasspeed
      @diasspeed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Philip Schlaepfer Actually he did it in 2 tries, he did not "nail it" in one. Why do you have to exaggerate about him, even for this little thing???? Pfff. Still however, it is not difficult at all, dont talk bs. Everybody can do it in first try some day or need 2-3 tries to do it in another day. He can do it ofcourse, I can do it, you can do it, anyone intermediate or better guitarist with a looper can do it.

  • @Djazzy419
    @Djazzy419 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    2:40
    Govan : "I can't do it"
    Also Govan : *does it*

  • @licklibrary
    @licklibrary  12 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Interestingly enough Guthrie did do English at Oxford university, but we feel his talents are much better spent on music!

    • @pauloamw
      @pauloamw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Licklibrary - Online Guitar Lessons Indeed, but his college background explain his equally good command of the language, which explains why he can teach so well and others can't.

  • @nara808
    @nara808 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This guy is amazing to watch. I don't even play guitar, but watching Guthrie play or talk is inspiring, i just might start

    • @JasperLinford
      @JasperLinford 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Joe Smith so did you actually start learning the guitar

    • @herehere3139
      @herehere3139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, six years ago, did u ever start learning?

    • @nara808
      @nara808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@herehere3139 No, lol. I play drums.

    • @herehere3139
      @herehere3139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nara808 Hahaha! Good on ya. I play drums as well as guitar. Drums can be equally fun and crazy in their own way.

    • @iggmeister4137
      @iggmeister4137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nara808 wack

  • @sunnymoon5216
    @sunnymoon5216 10 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Guthrie is the best explanator in the whole world! And that damn english accent...

    • @Joj1n
      @Joj1n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      SunnyMoon best(elegant) accent in the world to my ears...

  • @Nragemachine
    @Nragemachine 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like how excited he got when this question was asked, you can tell how much he loves music and playing the guitar and sharing that joy with others.

  • @JayFraser0987
    @JayFraser0987 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yessir. Shawn Lane was a gift to the world of the guitar, and he remains to this day one of my favourite musicians- let alone just guitarists. He was a mind blowing guitarist, a proficient bassist, an outstanding pianist and a fairly good drummer. Absolutely incredible.

  • @AndyDavid1970
    @AndyDavid1970 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    GG is such a great teacher - his explanations are clear and he makes it sound so approachable. Of course, each GG lesson needs quite a lot of homework and practice, but I always want to get right into it after one of his lessons. I also love how he's so damned humble! This isn't the first lesson where he's said "I can't do that", and I think that he makes it ok to not be perfect and to be yourself. Superb teacher.

  • @invin7215
    @invin7215 10 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Every time I hear five note groupings I hear "hippopotamus" now. Thanks Guthrie.

  • @sayakpaul3152
    @sayakpaul3152 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guthrie Govan is so unpredictable in his approach I just tend to have him all the day in my ear ... Specially his sweeps ... O bang on man ... Guthrie you are really a legend in your style .. Greetings all the way from India brother ..

  • @natazer
    @natazer 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shawn Lane was the master of odd groupings. It's impossible to study him without a time-displacement modulator. That'll be invented when time travel is possible so you can go back and slow down his patterns.

  • @redskullz124
    @redskullz124 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! A video of Friedman talking about odd groupings changed my entire outlook on putting runs in leads.

  • @ExternalTooth
    @ExternalTooth 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, I've never found a guitarist, or musician for that matter, that I thought truly came up to par with Lane. As you said, he was better than most people at several different instruments, and (in my mind) the single greatest guitarist who ever lived. I'm 18 and I first heard him a year ago, and I've been mesmerized ever since. I really regret that I never got to meet him! But enough of the drooling and praising.. xD R.I.P SHAWN. On a side note, Govan is a favorite of mine, as well. Lol

  • @wilky1189
    @wilky1189 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i learned the takadimi system in college, and i've heard of other indian rhythmic singing, but no one ever taught me "hip-po-pot-a-mus".....that's brilliant.

  • @robertdevadason1885
    @robertdevadason1885 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    guthrie does not train with a metronome...the metronome trains with guthrie

    • @Pimp-Master
      @Pimp-Master 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He gets Chuck Norris's old metronomes.

  • @ExternalTooth
    @ExternalTooth 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're so right. Some of his solos sounded like randomly thrown together notes at first glance, but when you really pick them apart, you realize just how technically and musically talented he was. It's incredible.

  • @encguitarist
    @encguitarist 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guthrie is everything a guitar player would want. A guitar god and a metronome :)

  • @nuspacestate
    @nuspacestate 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shawn Lane used to use groups of 5 and other odd groupings in his playing on a regular basis.

  • @InstrumentalAvenue
    @InstrumentalAvenue 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great teacher.

  • @L33tP1ckL
    @L33tP1ckL 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guthrie is not only a great player, but as this lesson plainly shows, a pretty decent teacher as well. His intent, to have you break the often sour mold of 3 and 4 note groupings and ultimately, the horribly overused I IV V progression, will lend itself to expanding your improvisational abilities in a very clear, 'second nature' kind of a way.

  • @KingTabor
    @KingTabor 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @KingTabor actually I can play fast (I mean, in a soloing frame) the 5-note g's, but the 7-note still are a problem to me. Not at lower speeds, where they can easily fall into some progressive grooves, like Rush or DT had taught us all. Thanks for the GINA hint, it helped!

  • @Alwongayem
    @Alwongayem 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guthrie ... you are so talented and ... so nice to teach how to play the way you do. Thanks.

  • @panamanian911
    @panamanian911 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @pozereater they don't always apply with time signatures. When he played that Zappa riff, he squeezed 5 notes in a 16th note subdivision.

  • @ayushmanbhalla8737
    @ayushmanbhalla8737 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg he made is own metronome such a sick man..... but I really love his dedication towards music !

  • @dennoow
    @dennoow 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I remember being completely blown away when hearing that song on "Up", Even more so when I saw it live! The ending of that song is absolutely genius as well. Peter Gabriel is a brilliant, brilliant composer! That vocal solo is exactly as a guitar should sound :)

  • @devax1986
    @devax1986 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah, a reference to Zappa. One of my all time favorites.

  • @mariokris22
    @mariokris22 14 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    damn even a metronome sound he could make

  • @xxczerxx
    @xxczerxx 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Friedmanmeister loves this idea too! Him and Govan are my favourites

  • @_ch1pset
    @_ch1pset 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like the last approach he mentions, except i haven't yet tried 5 or 7 note groupings, but i've successfully been able to combine triplets and quadruplets using a sixteenth note pulse(play 4 sets of triplets and then one quadruplet and they are all sixteenth notes). Even though its a cliche, it still tricks you're sense of "on beat". I actually like this way of constructing licks and riffs, its tricky and challenging, if there's one thing I love, its a good challenge. plus it sounds cool.

  • @_ch1pset
    @_ch1pset 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm having fun with this in rhythm style licks/riffs. :)
    I like using the last method he talks about, keeping a 16th pulse, it's challenging and makes for intricate licks because of how it repeats in spots you don't expect. It sounds really nice, as I said, rhythmically.

  • @detroidxl
    @detroidxl 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG HE MADE A METRONOME THATS SO BRILLIANT YET SIMPLE!

  • @elvis_chen
    @elvis_chen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The metronome loop is epic.

  • @JohnnySegment86
    @JohnnySegment86 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    To get a feel for five npb I just tap on the beat and go down chromatically using pull offs with my fretting hand...... works pretty well if you keep a steady tap and have four fingers

  • @jamescairns515
    @jamescairns515 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can this guy just become an english teacher? Fantastic use of the language. Almost as pleasurable as his playing.

  • @JoeGuitarGuy
    @JoeGuitarGuy 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    God Govan is a fucking genius, I'm so grateful he decided to apply his seemingly natural ability to teach to playing guitar.

  • @tabotabojayar
    @tabotabojayar 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is that aloop pedal he used to record and play continously that metronome?

    • @arazmate
      @arazmate 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know this is 11 years late, but yes. You probably already know that by now though… lol

  • @nicklambert1981
    @nicklambert1981 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hippopotamus! I never knew this word would make my playing better. Genius.

  • @express49
    @express49 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the metronome the only thing you learnt here ?

  • @necroyoli08
    @necroyoli08 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a good example of the indian stuff Guthrie is talking about is Peter Gabriel's Signal To Noise, before the string section begins

  • @necroyoli08
    @necroyoli08 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know that track was featured on Up, I love that movie, and of course I love that song, Martin Scorsese featured an instrumental version of Signal To Noise in the first battle scene of Gangs of New York, it gives me the chills every time I listen to it and/or watch the movie

  • @dilbophagginz
    @dilbophagginz 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:40 people should pay attention to this, it's a very good concept to understand.

  • @dennoow
    @dennoow 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know "Up" was a movie as well ;) I was referring to Peter Gabriel's Album entitled "Up". It's absolutely brilliant from start to finish. Everytime you listen you will hear something new, true classic! Gangs of NY is a really really good film yeah!

  • @JayFraser0987
    @JayFraser0987 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shawn Lane was definitely one of the best musicians-both technically and creatively to ever live, without a doubt in my mind. I'm only 15, but I've been a fan for a few years at this point, and he just blew my mind and it never quite recovered. Speaking from a non-Lane perspective though, Guthrie is one of the best guitarists alive and definitely one of the best at what he does - rock based fusion work. If I could have half the skill of Guthrie, I'd be better than 90% of the worlds guitarists.

  • @IANSPA
    @IANSPA 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It keeps the strings from ringing out when he does tapping licks.

  • @Nomadic_1
    @Nomadic_1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i want this guy to be my teacher

  • @timothycypriot8182
    @timothycypriot8182 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a 15 years old guitar student i only practiced classical guitar and i will finnish grd8 and in this summer i want to practise new things i want to play lead guitar what should i do any advices? sorry for my bad english

  • @JayFraser0987
    @JayFraser0987 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @RemusN7 Guthrie is an enormous Shawn Lane fan, so that might even be where he picked up the knowledge of it.

  • @neo4reals
    @neo4reals 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @TheRealAchilleZ The subject isn't odd meter, its odd groupings- quintuplets/septuplets

  • @malcolmX213
    @malcolmX213 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just think of what you are playing and the 4 beat metronome as two different rhythms (polyrhythms).

  • @Superock1988
    @Superock1988 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, I have one.
    In 2:06 he's playing the solo and tapping the tempo simultaneously. No loop pedal here...

  • @MisterGabal
    @MisterGabal 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This indian stuff I've also heard about in a Shawn Lane video.

  • @JayFraser0987
    @JayFraser0987 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Nuspacestate Shawn Lane was a monster of the guitar. Absolutely fantastic player in almost every conceivable way. Guthrie himself is a rather large fan. I remember watches some REH videos Lane did, and he was talking about interspersing groups of 5 with 9's, 12's and even 13's. It's absolutely insane.

  • @davejackson88
    @davejackson88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes the metronome click sound... this man is messiah

  • @Massigangster
    @Massigangster 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does someone know the function of the HAIRBAND at the guitar headstock!??

    • @NathanPitts
      @NathanPitts 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Usually keeps the high pitched "short part" of the strings behind the nut from ringing out and/or making noise when bending or using the trem.

    • @Massigangster
      @Massigangster 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Merci!

    • @NicStride
      @NicStride 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Massimo Beckers He also likes to slide it up onto the fretboard to mute the open strings (achieving the same thing as right hand muting in songs like Smells like teen spirit) when he's taping, it also makes sure there's no ringing open strings when tapping too. :) People like Marty Friedman have also used the hairband trick.

    • @GlennJimenez
      @GlennJimenez 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicolas Stride There is no muting in Smells Like Teen Sprit that I can hear.

    • @NicStride
      @NicStride 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glenn Jimenez I'm talking about the left hand (Well, he was left handed, so it's technically right hand) muting Kurt uses in the main riff. It makes a "Chicka-chicka" sound, and on tabs would be displayed as X's rather than a fretted note. If you're tapping with both hands, and unable to mute with your skin, hitting an open string and getting an 'X' note rather than an open string ringing out of tune is a massive advantage. Hence the hairband.

  • @NickoTheGuitarist
    @NickoTheGuitarist 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He's so nice and polite haha

  • @KingTabor
    @KingTabor 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! But I missed some insight into the 7-note groupings.

  • @sIash90
    @sIash90 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's a good lesson. I think I need to get familiar with odd groupings of notes because I'm not too fast of an alternate picker yet. Therefore I'm not confortable soloing at tempos between 120bpm and 150 bpm let's say. Because up to 120 I can use groups of 6 for fast runs and around 150 16th notes fit pretty good for fast passages in solos. But in between 16th notes sound too slow and groups of 6 are way too fast for me. groups of 5 might be the solution

  • @GhostGuitars
    @GhostGuitars 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5s - "university 7s - "go to university" use these on the beat, it will help

    • @RorysIrishTour
      @RorysIrishTour 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      i take 1 2 3 4 5 and 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

  • @pgomespwr95
    @pgomespwr95 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome guitarists go the same way, he used the same thing as Marty Friedman to start with the 5's

  • @happyapple248
    @happyapple248 13 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "Primitive metronome"

  • @timothycypriot8182
    @timothycypriot8182 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    by the way i can practise 8 hours a day tell me what should i learn plz any advise?

  • @jocelynarnaiz9534
    @jocelynarnaiz9534 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    men how do you associate a minor pentatonic to major pentatonic for example in a root of A.
    thanks men

  • @thegreatgarry
    @thegreatgarry 14 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Guthrie makes metronome??!?!
    How on earth he does that ?!?

  • @moscar_
    @moscar_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1:50 eye of the tiger anyone ?

  • @ymelfilm
    @ymelfilm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg, he just remembers Peaches in Regalia! I guess he can play any Zappa just from his pocket:))

  • @jamoke666
    @jamoke666 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    G.G. Rules!

  • @KingTabor
    @KingTabor 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @thrakkattack This method you said can work. Hard is telling when and if it is actually working, I mean knowing if one is playing actually 7 notes-a-time instead of 7.2, 7.78 or any other number, given the free nature of the method "OK, I have this nice Rhoads lick down, now I´m gonna speed it up by ... hmm.. 20%? No, must be 30%!...or..."

  • @Kingding6
    @Kingding6 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check the Lane instructional vids for this kind of stuff

  • @Testacabeza
    @Testacabeza 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not a metronome. He just created life out of void and is monitoring its heart.

  • @TheBlakem
    @TheBlakem 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    HE IS THE BEST!

  • @GuitarFromNZ
    @GuitarFromNZ 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    r u dimebag darrel's seecond brother or somin?

  • @southrules
    @southrules 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's actually true of many things with the guitar once you've practiced something a lot

  • @Mapon123
    @Mapon123 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @magician10001 I suppose so, in this order: "Eye of the tiger is sixteenth notes." but not all sixteenth notes are eye of the tiger. :D

  • @Katzuma_
    @Katzuma_ 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nemogre
    Probably wouldn't be able to hear it on video though.

  • @doeboyfresh863
    @doeboyfresh863 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    eye of the tiger at 1:55!!!! lol i know dumb lol

  • @ryancola69
    @ryancola69 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was my question!

  • @Ieatairparticles
    @Ieatairparticles 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes sir I do believe he did using a loop pedal.

  • @TruthSurge
    @TruthSurge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I notice he didn't play ANY example of 5 or 7 remotely close to "fast". Eric Johnson does great 5s and Shawn Lane did, too. Shawn..... you have to see him play to believe he isn't doing all that with two-hand tapping.

    • @zerronyx1362
      @zerronyx1362 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean, he says it in the video, if you play it fast the notes just squeezes its way together but playing slow makes it easier to grasp and understand the concept of 5 notes per beat
      if you doubt guthrie govan's skills then just search him shredding, he is ridiculously fast AND clean

  • @UltimaRedFireEskimo
    @UltimaRedFireEskimo 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's obviously easy, but to be able to think of making your own metronome? I'm impressed by his creativity and resourcefulness; it's easy to make that noise technically lol

  • @danieloliveiraog
    @danieloliveiraog 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nemogre Sure, because the only way he can show off is to make a simple metronome...

  • @pippipmagrip
    @pippipmagrip 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look Ian Anderson did that look in 1969, get your own.

  • @tokojojiji
    @tokojojiji 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow i actually had to rewind it about 30 times before i could understand what he said at the vid.

  • @ashishvivian2224
    @ashishvivian2224 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s funny that Guthrie struggled with super imposing there.
    Never thought anything was impossible for Guthrie 😕

  • @johnnylifeson
    @johnnylifeson 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guthrie is the Master !!!!!

  • @swamdono
    @swamdono 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @UltimaRedFireEskimo
    Of course. And if he felt like it, he could make a garden shed out of it. Or a toilet roll tube.

  • @nevigo5519
    @nevigo5519 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    He seem to be a good guy.Very nice and calm,and he understand to say it so people dont sit like a bit Q.:)

  • @necroyoli08
    @necroyoli08 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh, sorry, duh! for me, of course you are talking about the album, the thing is that so many people talks about the film and very little people knows the album that I didn't even relate the song and the record. However, both the record and the film are awsome

  • @xxczerxx
    @xxczerxx 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah of course!

  • @EscapDAfate
    @EscapDAfate 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @EscapDAfate hahha i meant the part where he says "which i can't do"

  • @necroyoli08
    @necroyoli08 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah it's awsome !!

  • @lowalkoroc
    @lowalkoroc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol the string noise on the 4 count of the metronome driving me nuts. BEEP BOOP BOOP BOOP(EHHH), BEEP BOOP BOOP BOOP(EHHH)

  • @jjmah7
    @jjmah7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man had literally no reason to metronome any of those licks but he’s a god so all g

  • @shravanrulez
    @shravanrulez 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Perversely, It gets harder when you slow it down!" LOL! I'm sure he meant something else by that!! :D

  • @DANKGUITAR26
    @DANKGUITAR26 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:33 YES!

  • @leifdeleeuw
    @leifdeleeuw 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:38 Peaches and Regalia!!! :)

  • @luizandre12345
    @luizandre12345 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This metronome is better than anything i can play on guitar

  • @maxellison55
    @maxellison55 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genius!

  • @vinamarora7049
    @vinamarora7049 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regret #9 at 0:52 :)