Should you buy the strange MINI COOPER COUPE? (Quick Test Drive and Review)
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You don't see many of these weird-looking Mini Cooper Coupe's on the road. Are they any good and should you buy one?
...Also is it 'coop' or 'coop-ay'?
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Keep up the excellent reviews, I’m really surprised that you don’t have 1000s of subscribers.
To drive and present an intelligent, structured review in a natural style you have a real natural talent. Look forward to the next review.
adventure40s Thanks for that! That’s the nicest comment I’ve had! Cheers 👍
40+ woman here - your comments about why you thought we wouldn’t like Minis are completely wrong. I love my R56 because it is a drivers car. I love the firm ride, responsive steering, and handling. Driving my mini is a blast and never fails to put a smile on my face. The coupe will be my next car
I apologise, I was generalising.
Bought a Coupe S a fortnight ago and it never fails to put a smile on my face!
The exhaust pops are my favourite!
They're great fun to drive
I was in my dads mates 2002 mini cooper going 120 mph so fun lol second fastest iv been in a car apart from a 320d a 135mph
a stock S pops?
@@Z1ZOU1 yes
Before you slag off the original Mini too much, go drive one. Not a rust-bucket though, a well maintained 1.3i Se7en or Paul Smith Edition, etc. Drive it hard. Attack roundabouts and enjoy the grip, then use the throttle to encourage understeer and blast your way onto a fast A road at what feels like 70mph, but is actually 30.
You'll giggle like a girl sat on a washing machine.
It'll be impractical, with heavy steering, a harsh ride, and surprisingly poor fuel economy. Yet it will be fun to drive with bags of character. Oh wait, that's what you just said about the MINI. What a coincidence.
You won't want to own one, but you won't regret having tried it out either.
My first car in 1972 was a mini van with added side windows and a back seat. I think it was a 1962 model which had the starter in the floor. I was told the reason for that was because in those days you turned on the ignition and had a separate starter button which was just a switch which used to spark if you weren't firm enough due the the high voltage going through it which caused them to fail. In the 60's women often wore stilettoes which they could use to operate the starter.
The wind came in through round the speedo. There was no lock on the back door, you just pulled the handle out and put on the parcel shelf. Of course there were the sliding windows to facilitate the huge door bins. A bloody awful car but real fun to drive. At the time there were accusations that it was too fast as young drivers often crashed them. They were never fast but they felt as if they were due to being so low with a poor ride. I'd love the chance to drive one again.
The engine in the newer Minis was the Prince engine which was designed by BMW and Peugeot. As well as the Mini and Peugeot vehicles I think it was used in some of the 1 and 3 series BMW models.
Why do you guys all say the same thing - that his car is weird? Why is it weird. the basball cap comments are just copycat! It is a very distinctive purposeful looking car. I've owned over a dozen minis, Cooper S etc and I own a Cooper Coupe SD and have thrown it around the winding roads of the west coast of Scotlan and its it behaves like a gokart. Why do you also say it is impractical?! Its not, its a two seater. Not everyone is married with 2.2 kids. The bot is extraordinary. the only impractical thing about this car is it is hard to look over the doors and avoid scuffing low profile wheels on high pavements and also seeing traffic lights change when you are up right by the lights. Its fantastic car, the best build quality of the entire range and one day it will be a collector's car. Stop calling it weird or I will start calling you a sheep! Its quirky yes and thank God there are still quirky cars. Surely you know coupe is pronounced coopay! The americans call it a coop!
I just got a 2012 jcw coupe and it’s been fantastic!
I like your reviews, it's someone talking commonsense rather than the "fanboy" stuff some come out with.
Thank you!
EVERY ONE SHOULD DRIVE A MINI.
My Mum had an identical one for four years. She loved it and had no faults with hers.
The semi-auto version Coupé Cooper S from 2011 on is a lot more reliable than earlier models and much more fun even using the steering wheel paddles... My kids are grown up so I'm allowed that mid-life crisis. Bit late but thumbs up for the review!
So I currently have the Fiat Punto and I can agree- everything falls apart, I've just bought this car on a 65 plate less than a few days ago and picking it up from the dealership in a few days time, quite amused at the comparison, hope I enjoy driving this!
I’m sure I read bmw got engine in the earlier minis from Chrysler and the gearbox came from some other dubious source - anyhow - it’s a bmw so it’s bound to be poorly made
I have an R58 Mini Coupe 2.0Ltr DS.
It is absolutely brilliant and so much fun...65 mpg. .....and makes you Smile every time you drive it. ☺👍
Wish you could do a review on the Mini cooper s r53.I own one and it's just a joy to drive(mechanical). It's got the Chrysler 1.6 engine and supercharged putting out 170bhp.More reliable than the Peugeot variant engine.
Nice review.... I've never wanted a Mini my fiancé did.... Bought one for her.... I drove it and now I have one - Put it in Sports mode and the steering toughens and so does the performance - I have a Mini Cooper S JCW and only had trouble once with a timing chain - I've found mine a lovely car to drive
Keep up with the reviews - Still keep coming back!
They’re great cars to drive. I just haven’t found them to be that reliable
@@HighPeakAutos I did move from a Toyota RAV4 and really miss the height and reliability - but I'll be looking for a 4x4 again soon... as I live surrounded my farms they are all driving Nissans.... (may be .. but I've love Land Rover)
Good honest review as always. One point though, you make an assumption about lady drivers, which might be true, but my 43 year old wife, likes a drivers car, a performance car, so she’d love that, especially because it has a large boot for all her shopping! I should add she used to have a Mini Clubman Hampton Edition CooperS and misses it.
I was generalising I admit
I like heavy steering I love it it doesn't feel lose and fun
Tanks for your honest review of the Cooper Coupe. I am a fan of the shape and also the Mini in general both Classic and BMW. I have owned both although the BMW Mini was only a Mini One. Down the track and I know it is a few years since you did this review I am hoping that when I find a good one for sale (even in Auto) I will be able to enjoy it as much
In answer to your question at the top.
The car is a Coupé. Pronounced Coo'pay.
Etymology and pronunciation Coupé (French: [kupe]) is a French loanword. It is the past participle of the French verb couper ("to cut") and thus indicates a car which has been "cut" or made shorter than standard. It was first applied to horse-drawn carriages for two passengers without rear-facing seats.
Unfortunately in the USA, because the English language is a tad difficult for them to overcome, they call them "coops". Which is a cage or pen in which poultry are kept.
I didn't know that :)
@@HighPeakAutos - De-Americanize yourself. Coupé is Koo'pay. All we need to do now is to change America :-))...
Coupé is a French word. The British like to speak French to seem more posh. It's a habit they picked up after being invaded by the French a long time ago and having to use a lot of their words. In America we seem to appreciate the English language more than the English do, and French seems ostentatious and affected. So we say coupe (pronounced coop) instead of coupé.
Minis are great to drive but a bit noisy on the motorway
Espechially at 120 mph lol
Ethan keenan you think it can go that fast. struggle at 70
@@WarrenF no the S and JCWs will easily do 120
2nd generation Mini Cooper S owner here. As fun as they are, DON'T get one. The reliability nightmare is simply not worth it. I've had to spend over 3 grand on issues in a year, excluding tires and other regular maintenance items. If your heart is truly set on a Mini, save your pennies for the 3rd generation, as they're way more dependable.
They should've just named it a Mini Coupe-r!
Missed opportunity there
Review a skoda yeti, the most underrated off roader/ all rounder!!
I like the Yeti! I'll do a vid soon :)
And the stealerships are'nt very helpful, once had a mini one (51) and the power steering pump burnt out four days after the warranty ran out, they charged me full price to fix it.
Yeah thats right. My experience with Mini main dealers isn't good
I had mine serviced, drove It 2 miles down the road and steering pump went. Cool cars but you need deep pockets 😭
Could you do a video on the newer 2014 and later Mini (One/Cooper) ?
Ill try and get hold of one :)
My Mum has a 2008 Cooper S but it is actually the supercharged one. It’s one of the last ones made. FJ58 VMF 45k miles :)
I got 2010 Mini ONE 1.6 (98) in black with bronze COOPER wheels. I am 43 and enjoys gokart drive.
What year is the coupe?
You should drive an original mini for a couple of weeks. It’s an experience. I had two for about 5 years. Scary but fun.
Really enjoy your video's..as a 50 year old motor enthusiastic,I find them interesting and informative..👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
❤my coupe Cooper S, never had any problems with it, like driving a go kart! And it's nippy 😊
I always thought you new what you were talking about,till now,the original mini was more fun to drive,no power steering,drum brakes.Fantastic little car,and how can you talk about it till you actually drive one.✌️
I think you nailed that review it was totally honest, Ive had a few minis with all those probs you indicated
If driving the Coupe sounds like fun to you, wait to drive the mini Roadster.
I love mine very much
Are used to work for Millie during the time when they were going over from the old to the current shapes, believe it or not these were successful and they had to continue making them amongst the older cars for a few months
The funny thing about the petrol engine (which is unreliable, see timing chain, water pumps and loads of other stuff) people with Peugeot's blame the BMW engine under the hood and on the MINI its the Peugeot engine spoiling the party. Truth is the 1.6 petrol was developed jointly by BMW and PSA group and had some engineering weak points with a high failure rate. Avoid without a cast iron warranty.
If you look at any true Peugeot engine over the last 25 years, they don't use timing chains but rubber belts. BMW uses chains in it's engines... so I wonder which company was responsible for engineering the timing chain on this? I'll give you a hint, it's the same company which used a timing chain on their 2.0 diesel, which inevitably went wrong, costing at minimum £1500.....
This guy must be a lot of fun at parties !
I’m sorry but the classic mini didn’t need updating because it was iconic and timeless and everyone loved them. It did not need changing. Also bmw did not design the first mini. Rover did before they went bankrupt.
I nearly bought one, but decided to buy my second boring Jazz (Mk2) because it's so reliable. The perceived quality of the Mini is brilliant, and I'm sure the performance is great, but neither Honda has ever, ever, let me down. Smashing review. I don't think I'd like peering back through the letter box back window!
The Jazz is the sensible option. They're great cars. The way the rear seats fold is very clever
I've had two - totally reliable. There's as much room in the back as there is in a Focus sized car, and the boot is massive - due to the fuel tank being underneath the front seats.
I think the coupe just looks odd , no wonder they stopped production. I agree the all BMW minis are a bit girly! Be careful the PC brigade will be after you. Great video as usual.
any suggestions on where to get a 2015 mini key reshelled? I saw on one of your other reviews you had done so for other cars. I managed to snap the plastic shell this morning when trying to replace the battery on my wifes spare key. The electrics should be ok.
Yeah 50 year old same design companies don’t work do they? Just look at Rolex and Porsche 911? If you get the design right just tweak it, update it, don’t change it, succeed.
Craig Spot on. Totally agree with you. Too much pointless “yoof” rebranding when not required.
These engines are called "prince".
They include the 1.4l engines with 75-95 hp for the One, the 1.6 with 75- 122 hp for the later One and Cooper models and the 1.6 Turbo with 174-218 hp for the Cooper S and the John Cooper Works (GP) models.
I like the sound of these engines but other than that they are total disasters. Peugeot and Citroen also used them in other models they were designed by MINI. BMW and MINI could use the 1.6 HDi diesel engines from PSA that was their deal.
Like you said the gasoline/petrol engines are a diaster burn a lot of oil, timing chain and tensioners typical for BMWs, the high pressure fuel pump can fail but there was also a recall for that and sometimes BMWs VANOS-System can act up but that's not that common.
The diesels on the other hand are great, just drive them enough not short distance to keep the DPF in good shape. I don't know about the 1.6 but the 1.4 HDi engines had something called "Eolys" it's a special fluid that allows you to regenerate your DPF at low speed (30mph) that's similar to todays Urea.
The only problem these engines have is that start leaking at the injectors because they get lose over time. There's a simple fix for that! Just tell your mechanic or do it yourself; Everytime you service the car just tighten the injectors up.
Also great video Matt
This will be sought after and rare
Bought the Mrs a mini Cooper. It looked great and drove like a dog - Horrible. Had it 12 months and sold it, got a good price and ran away delighted. My 45 year old Mrs hated driving and I agreed to out it.
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Thank you!!
What's your xperience with the jaguar xjr 2013 any info on that.
@@HighPeakAutos 😉going to check a Lincoln Mkx awd 2012 Low km pearl white Bright tan interior 3.7 liter fully fully Loaded glass roof also🙄
We don't get Lincolns in England so I don't know anything about them
Ive never had a new shape XJ either, so I can't help haha - I love the look of them though and the interior is superb
I got mini coupe ,diesel engine, 2.0, 4×4 it's very good and cheap to run , beautiful interior inside , I got sat nav too 😊
looking at one now thinking of buying it ,whats your advise?
@@highser22 I only do 60,000 ml. And a lot of problems come , it's the worst car I ever buy 😢
Bought a Coupe JCW, low miles, a real beauty that drove perfectly, until the engine blew! 🥺
I normally am not big on reviewers but i own a similar mini but you did a nice job describing the car well
It was a success, so much so they kept on making them past the planned finish line... most of the bad ones were the initial release cars... get the facelift and beyond are OK.. 2016 onward all is extrmely cool
Not my cup of tea, but love the honest review. 👍
Thanks for watching!
Hard to put in to words but I understand why people love them
Attractive base price in the low $20k's but add options and you very quickly approach $35k - and that's way too much for a car with so many mechanical issues with the transmission.
First(bmw) generation was a Chrysler engine, the second generation was Peugeot, they said shared development.
Mental Dave Thanks for that. I’ve had lots of issues with the ‘shared’ Pug/BMW engines 🙄
@@HighPeakAutos Anything with the word Peugeot or PSA near it should be burned, their last decent product was the 205.
I agree! They've caused me so much stress over the years
@@HighPeakAutos In the first couple of years of the 1.6 THP engine (prince engine for MINI) they all had timing chain tensioner issues - Peugeot would replace them for free even after the warranty but never did a recall on that and neither did MINI. They fixed the issue permanently in 2009. I've had two, the 150 hp in my 207 (2007 model year) that had to get fixed and the same block in my current RCZ 200 hp (2012 model year) which hasn't had that problem so far. High pressure fuel pumps are a common issue too. But don't say PSA is to blame for it all. BMW did just as much development of this engine as PSA did... Peugeot builds some of the best diesel engines... Anyway, I know I'm a bit of a Peugeot fanboy here ;) but I just want to put things into perspective.
Would you call the Mini a British car? It's built in the UK and I heard its developed in the UK despite having loads of BMW parts in it
My niece bought one and sold it within a year, she hated the ride, which chimes with your thoughts - went to an Audi A3.
Thats the thing. They do handle really well but I'm not sure thats what their target audience wants
But I mean that logical science;
The longer the wheelbase the better is the ride.
That's why a Smart Fortwo and a Toyota IQ have a bumpy ride and a S-Class or a Skoda Superb drives smooth.
Drove a new mini at first introduction.. Great impressed but less room than original... Bought a 3series instaed
Another great video!
In your opinion, what's a good car for someone who has passed for a year or so but is facing extortionate insurance prices? Being in london and under 25, everything seems quite pricey
Mazda 3 Sports are good
Got to admit, I have had a few Minis in my life. All in all pretty trouble free apart from one which was basically made of filler...….which I found out on my first MOT lol
What do you think about automatic gearbox in 1st and 2nd generations of mini?? Greetings from Macedonia 🇲🇰
A good review from someone who knows how to apretiate and review a small car as mini. Really tired of those 'murican reviews that sh!t on everything a mini is and say : "for this price go get a mustang". Mini trully is a blast on a reasonable b road.
Thanks for watching!
Rover actually tried to make numerous Mini concepts. Eventually BMW took their design and improved upon it. Rover didn’t Mohave the money
My guess about the original mini being made for so long and the car industry is that in this country we have bad managers backed up by bad politicians. Nobody does anything unless they have to and by then it's too late. If you work as a manager then make sure you don't fall into that category.
I agree! Its a shame
Have an early auto BMW mini. Has all the problems you describe. A real pain to live with.
Could you contact me as I’m looking for a used Landrover Discovery 4 HSE and you seem like a very honest dealer, there are some terrible reviews on Autotrader for some of the dealers and it’s very worrying what seems to be happening out their for the unit I’m looking for, thanks Mike
I love how weird the coupe is
I got a coupe S nearly two years ago & I love it especially on the motorway taking long drives home which can last up to 5 hours - great car to drive my only issue is the back window being a bit small & no window wiper
Yeah the lack of rear wiper is a bit annoying. Fun cars to drive though
I bought a 2013 Coupe S also a few years ago. I love the car. It is like driving a go-cart. No need to brake on corners. Acceleration is awesome. The lack of a rear wiper hasn't bothered me, because who really cares what's behind you, this car makes you pay attention, with a smile on your face, to the road ahead.
The current “mini’s” are an absolute insult to the memory of the original mini’s. I wouldn’t touch a current mini with a ten foot bargepole. Pointless bloated style over substance. Rant over 😃
new style minis are the best!
The Peugeot engine made in Brazil I believe what a combination
Please try a drive in an original mini, it's a proper go kart that can fit 4 x 6ft blokes in it.
I've never had one
The roadster looks better to me 👍
The fact that you have never owned an original Mini High Peak is why you dont get it I'm afraid. amazing cars and everyone should drive one at some point to understand what I mean!
I like the look of them but they're a bit before my time. Cheers
Actually it’s a very cool looking car.
Theyre unusual
Why did they use a Peugeot engine? Because it is a great engine, that is why.
Ppftttttt
honest review. 👍
I Would take a Suzuki sport over the mini any day of the week better looking more reliable or is it just me
I agree. I like the Swift. Although I've driven lots of early ones recently with broken gearboxes
Thanks for your reply
Why the background music ? Not noticed it before.... irritating !
Love the channel tho 😁
This was an old video. I've dropped the royalty free music. It annoyed me too
Sorry Mate ! Didn't mean to be disrespectful on your review , I think it's because when I owned a 7 series BMW and had to take it to the dealership they would present a mini diesel as my courtesy car !🤦🏼♂️ WTF !
As if that is 'like for like' haha
I'm sorry but I just don't get these modern takes on "Peoples Cars" The original Mini was a dirt cheap mode of transport for the masses, as was the original Fiat 500 and the original Beetle whereas these new ones are jaw droppingly expensive for what they are and the phrase "More style than substance" was coined just for them. They are just fashion baubles for those with no individuality and are about as far from "Peoples Cars" as you can possibly get . I would rather have leprosy than any of them if I'm honest.
Original design from 1958 to 2000, Porsche ????
I love my minis. This is my third.
I don't like the look of a cap worn backwards in the first place so I wouldn't want a car trying to mimick that look.
My experience with modern Minis is a bit of a mixed bag of two rental cars.
One was a Cooper S (possibly even "Works") on an Autobahn trip. The suspension beat me up and the engine noise was deafening - to my mind, the car was just unfit for that purpose.
A year later, I got a Cooper Diesel for holidays in Yorkshire - and I couldn't have got a more pleasant car to drive on the B-roads there. It was quick and safe in the curves, the suspension was just right and its engine was refined enough and pretty frugal.
So If I had to get one myself, I'd probably choose a three door saloon (or the early Clubman semi-estate with the third door) as a Cooper Diesel.
Hi u must have drive in a real minnie back in the day they are gt I had a auto
Ann Keville I’m ashamed to say I’ve never driven an original mini
A coop is where chickens live 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good point
I have to say, I find it goppingly awful in every conceivable way, but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One man's meat and all that.
I love mine ..
Reminds me of Karl Pilkington lol
I've still got my hair though thankfully
We going with pronouncing it "coup" or "coupé"? Ive never known the correct way, and I thought I had it when you started the review, as I thought.. well he must know surely!! Then later in the review you changed it!..so now im even more confused!!
Great review, but don't take this personally but you remind me of the guy who is in an idiot abroad Carl something you sound just like him 👍
Karl Pilkington! Haha We're both from Manchester, so that could be it haha
Also Sounds like Sean bean narrating bravo two zero
Very sexist. That is the best bit about this good little video.
Haha its quite true
It's really not you know. There are plenty of women who hate car manufacturers ideas of what women want and who hate this daft idea we somehow don't enjoy 'drivers' cars. What?! Getting a thrill from a car is not gender-specific! Please don't turn off car-loving women with your reviews - I'd like to watch them as they're otherwise useful!
You buy into the "brand" with MINIs, rather than necessarily buying a decent product. It's a fashion item rather than a practical car.
I agree :)
I couldn't agree more.
Coopay
I love the look of the coupes. When the first series of the new Mini came out I thought they were a good looking well proportioned car. But sure enough they got bigger and fatter and lost their looks, face lift after face lift. Won't tough one with a barge pole now
I agree. They're too fat now and lost their charm
Nah original mini everyday of the week and twice on Sunday, million times better than this modern rubbish.
Crikey that is hideous
Sceptics spraffing crap again
I thought they were Renault engines and stuff, which explains why they are crap !!
I think theyre Peugeot engines - equally crap
Good materials shame about the engineering. 😁
I don't know why they would use a Peugeot engine. What a silly mistake
@@HighPeakAutos Yes totally agree, cheaper i guess.
So a woman can’t like a “drivers car”?