This manifesto broke my heart . I'm a fashion student one of the most famous school in Paris . To graduate, we have to create a collection, but also the whole industrial, marketing, textile design, patterning, scenography, business, packaging part ... We only have 4 hours of pattern making/sewing lessons . We are all alone to do the job of a whole house, it's exhausting . And all we wanted was to create clothes, to explore textile design . This is so, so, SO TRUE .
Margot, it is so vital that you obtain the patternmaking and sewing skills you seek on your own. To design without that knowledge is to work in the dark. I hope you have found a good resource to train you since you wrote this. Best of luck to you.
Margot! Begin talking about the absurdity of your (and every other student in your) situation; speak up, speak loudly, BE HEARD! Organize others (in this same situation) to manifest for change! We have to SPEAK UP in order to get things changed. No one else is going to do it for us. We wait, and wait ... and nothing changes. (I have always thought of the absurdity of the long hours for medical residency interns and the mistakes made and lives lost because of the asinine practice of making doctors in training work 80 hr. -and longer- weeks) EXTREMISM. It's everywhere... but YOU are the future! YOU can change things. Or get behind someone who wants to change things, wants to speak up, speak out, speak loudly! Good Luck! Courage! Tout est possible!
I love her idea of having larger brands adopt smaller/ new brands and allowing them to have opening shows utilizing the big brands resources. It is a win-win idea: the small brand gets a venue and eyes on their product and the established brand shows that they are not out of touch. Wonderful!
For the first time that i can even remember, I'm completely engaged with what this woman is saying. Some of these Ideas (merging design deprtments, smaller brands for pre shows) I brought forward to my first ever fashion tutor, she laughed and said i wouldnt get far in the industry if im going to think like that and said i was greedy for trying to put more in a show than normal and i couldnt weave Film and fashion. I just want to watch this 500 times. i honestly can't believe there is someone with thew same thought who is also so high up in the industry! i dont feel like such an idiot now. TTHANKS YOU BOF
Your fashion tutor is WRONG. She is part of the past, but you are the future and this world is YOURS! Don't forget that. What you think and feel is valid. Courage! Continue to speak up, especially when it makes more sense than the status quo. Remember, fashion is all about what is Avant-Garde, even IDEAS. So, YOU are in the Avant-Garde of fashion with the new ideas. Continue to speak up!! (Always go with your gut feelings and trust yourself over others).
INDIGENOUS ANT FASHION - FASHION DESIGNER here from Wellington New Zealand .. and couldnt agree more with everything that is said here .. the trash that is on the catwalks these days .. that only goes into land fills at the human cost .. for only a group of people to make their millions .. lack of education in this area is shocking .. yes educate the so called fashion media .. and show what the so called fast fashion industry is really doing ..
This woman is fabulous. All of the audience cuts are full dumbass expressions of the fashion elite who are terrified of change. This is the problem with the industry, the inability to modernize.
@wwilmoth2001 Define "elite". You don't actually know who's in the audience, do you. Whenever you hear the word elite in a comment you know you're dealing with a dumb f*ck. You're talking out of your ass.
Could you please find out if you can add the sound back in for the movie she shows around minute mark 10:33? You get his first few words, and then no sound until the camera refocuses on Lidewij. It looks like what he has to say is probably pretty interesting, and it must have been important for her to include it in her presentation. Also, is there a way for someone to edit the closed captioning? It's not dealing well with her accent, and there's no punctuation.
Li Edelkoort is genius and inspiring. "Fashion is no longer part of the avant garde," she says. It is part of the capitalistic machine that is destroying nature, I say. Thank you for sharing this.
People want to be original and contemporary , they want creative release , new objectives , perspectives , feed back , spin offs , mostly forded by creative science like space exploration which evolves and permeates unpredictably but consistently . Old value will maintain if we change and allow variation and unique distinct solutions to elaborate without constraints , . . .
Love this speech. Might have some bearing on the teaching of the humanities. I do think people are learning to sew and to convert old clothes into new fashions at home and understand how wasteful the industry is being environmentally as well...
Magazines often make ignorant statements such as "the coming of print, while everything is jacquard." It's a stupid remark because jacquard isn't print, the patterns are woven into the fabric.
The message is perfect but its funny how Li makes many anti-fame points while the cameraman and editing keep showcasing Amber Velletta throughout the video.
guys , girls , what I want to say is: be YOU ! , she is not a model to follow , ofc she is a part of fashion but don't get to attach to it ! she is more like "follow me " don't do this ,don't do that ..she has some criticism that is good in our eyes but it's all about playing the game and follow her agenda ! ...and most important thing DON'T FOLLOW ANY GUIDE LINE , just be you ...express yourself , is not only about how they look , materials - colors , shapes ..etc ..is emotion ,is the story , even if it doesn't look that good in other ppl eyes ...at least is not the same shit ! - Assumption - limit you ! - Think like a fashion designer ?! - NO - think like you !
Je suis d'accord. L'élégance me manques ... I was astonished a few years ago when every handbag looked as if a hardware store/quincaillerie had thrown up all over it. WHO is designing such a mess? Et comme on avait besoin de porter quelquechose de plus lourde que deja...
She's actually a model who's very pro-ethical/sustainable fashion so she is probably for this manifesto, but also with sustainability becoming a trend she is hired for more and more covers and campaigns (so she's making more money)
Liddle Li is one confused marxist who wants it both ways: she doesn’t like the idea of individual designers but couture is the future. Who will lead the idea if everyone is equal? She shows a film of some middle class guy hand making tweed in a trendy studio in east London and thinks everyone can afford this kind of clothing? Seriously? And at the end we see a couple of domestic terrorists and their quotations and finally the three French words that that heralded the French Revolution and the Terreur. This is what happens when you know nothing about history and just pick and choose what you think is trendy without any deeper understanding.
Everyone of intelligence in the fashion industry has known this for years, why do people only take notice when she takes credit for pointing out what was so obvoius?
This manifesto broke my heart . I'm a fashion student one of the most famous school in Paris . To graduate, we have to create a collection, but also the whole industrial, marketing, textile design, patterning, scenography, business, packaging part ... We only have 4 hours of pattern making/sewing lessons .
We are all alone to do the job of a whole house, it's exhausting . And all we wanted was to create clothes, to explore textile design .
This is so, so, SO TRUE .
Margot, it is so vital that you obtain the patternmaking and sewing skills you seek on your own. To design without that knowledge is to work in the dark. I hope you have found a good resource to train you since you wrote this. Best of luck to you.
*SNOBISME/TORTURE!*
Margot! Begin talking about the absurdity of your (and every other student in your) situation; speak up, speak loudly, BE HEARD! Organize others (in this same situation) to manifest for change! We have to SPEAK UP in order to get things changed. No one else is going to do it for us. We wait, and wait ... and nothing changes. (I have always thought of the absurdity of the long hours for medical residency interns and the mistakes made and lives lost because of the asinine practice of making doctors in training work 80 hr. -and longer- weeks) EXTREMISM. It's everywhere... but YOU are the future! YOU can change things. Or get behind someone who wants to change things, wants to speak up, speak out, speak loudly! Good Luck! Courage! Tout est possible!
which university? im starting this september on esmod
I love her idea of having larger brands adopt smaller/ new brands and allowing them to have opening shows utilizing the big brands resources. It is a win-win idea: the small brand gets a venue and eyes on their product and the established brand shows that they are not out of touch. Wonderful!
I watched this thinking it was released like last week…realizing it was 5 years ago really changed how the whole thing hit.
For the first time that i can even remember, I'm completely engaged with what this woman is saying.
Some of these Ideas (merging design deprtments, smaller brands for pre shows) I brought forward to my first ever fashion tutor, she laughed and said i wouldnt get far in the industry if im going to think like that and said i was greedy for trying to put more in a show than normal and i couldnt weave Film and fashion. I just want to watch this 500 times. i honestly can't believe there is someone with thew same thought who is also so high up in the industry! i dont feel like such an idiot now. TTHANKS YOU BOF
Your fashion tutor is WRONG. She is part of the past, but you are the future and this world is YOURS! Don't forget that. What you think and feel is valid. Courage! Continue to speak up, especially when it makes more sense than the status quo. Remember, fashion is all about what is Avant-Garde, even IDEAS. So, YOU are in the Avant-Garde of fashion with the new ideas. Continue to speak up!! (Always go with your gut feelings and trust yourself over others).
Many french fashion schools (i dont want to put names) needs to watch this video to understand the world we are living in.
Name and shame. Forgo the French way, do it the English way !
INDIGENOUS ANT FASHION - FASHION DESIGNER here from Wellington New Zealand .. and couldnt agree more with everything that is said here .. the trash that is on the catwalks these days .. that only goes into land fills at the human cost .. for only a group of people to make their millions .. lack of education in this area is shocking .. yes educate the so called fashion media .. and show what the so called fast fashion industry is really doing ..
I disagree with her feminization of men
We don't care if you're "indigenous" everyone is indigenous to somewhere, you're not special.
Does she mention the name of the movie? Would love to watch the entire film.
THIS:
HIRING FILM MAKERS VS. ADVERTISERS
This woman is fabulous. All of the audience cuts are full dumbass expressions of the fashion elite who are terrified of change. This is the problem with the industry, the inability to modernize.
@wwilmoth2001 Define "elite". You don't actually know who's in the audience, do you. Whenever you hear the word elite in a comment you know you're dealing with a dumb f*ck. You're talking out of your ass.
Could you please find out if you can add the sound back in for the movie she shows around minute mark 10:33? You get his first few words, and then no sound until the camera refocuses on Lidewij. It looks like what he has to say is probably pretty interesting, and it must have been important for her to include it in her presentation. Also, is there a way for someone to edit the closed captioning? It's not dealing well with her accent, and there's no punctuation.
Thought it was my WI-FI but yes please fix the sound in this video. It’s a shame we can’t hear all of it @The Business of Fashion.
love this woman
Li Edelkoort is genius and inspiring. "Fashion is no longer part of the avant garde," she says. It is part of the capitalistic machine that is destroying nature, I say. Thank you for sharing this.
Did she ever release the Manifesto for free publicly/digitally or did she only sell it on her website?... I cant find it anywhere online.
This is what im been talking about Fashion today is Obselete & Irrelevant! What she said earlier that Fashion stock in the 20th century which is TRUE!
People want to be original and contemporary , they want creative release , new objectives , perspectives , feed back , spin offs , mostly forded by creative science like space exploration which evolves and permeates unpredictably but consistently . Old value will maintain if we change and allow variation and unique distinct solutions to elaborate without constraints , . . .
sound disappears during the video.
I think it's possibly a copyright thing
I KNOW!! Really irritating. I really wanted to hear what this young man had to say. So disappointed.
Yeah that's the worst part.
AMEN! Many wonderful ideas!!!
Love this speech. Might have some bearing on the teaching of the humanities. I do think people are learning to sew and to convert old clothes into new fashions at home and understand how wasteful the industry is being environmentally as well...
The Oracle has spoken!
Love it! Where can we read online that paper?
^^^^^
What a great video. Thank you so much for the upload.
LOVE HER !
Surely by definition a manifesto should be public. Why do you have to pay £25 to read the manifesto online?
because it's all about money ! ,
@@SUPERChris808 you are a god. thank you.
its free now lol
Thank you for sharing
can someone please list the names of the fashion houses she is saying around 9:00É
I got some of them but not a couple due to her accent
Prada, Vionnet, Balenciaga, Chanel, Gardem, Saint Laurent, ...???
followed by Montana Mugler Kawakubo
Brilhante !!!
OMG 20:18 dude falling asleep!!! Who edited that?
brilliant!
What did she say at 5:15 ??
Magazines often make ignorant statements such as "the coming of print, while everything is jacquard." It's a stupid remark because jacquard isn't print, the patterns are woven into the fabric.
The message is perfect but its funny how Li makes many anti-fame points while the cameraman and editing keep showcasing Amber Velletta throughout the video.
shes something !!! mooi mevrouw
Thank you for your thoughts. Is urgent this changements. No more fashion as before, (is terrible).
What happened to the sound? Too bad.
Thank you for your feedback. As this was live streamed we were unable to record the audio due to copyright reasons.
Please close caption these sections if the audio is not able to be used.
guys , girls , what I want to say is: be YOU ! , she is not a model to follow , ofc she is a part of fashion but don't get to attach to it ! she is more like "follow me " don't do this ,don't do that ..she has some criticism that is good in our eyes but it's all about playing the game and follow her agenda ! ...and most important thing DON'T FOLLOW ANY GUIDE LINE , just be you ...express yourself , is not only about how they look , materials - colors , shapes ..etc ..is emotion ,is the story , even if it doesn't look that good in other ppl eyes ...at least is not the same shit ! - Assumption - limit you ! - Think like a fashion designer ?! - NO - think like you !
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SOUND OF THE FILM SHE SHOWED??? It went away. -???
Vetememes s/o at 24:49
*L'élégance et le chic doivent revenir partout sans ça la mode est finie! "anti-fashion" ça ne veut rien dire du tout! prada/gucci'shiit syndrome!*
Je suis d'accord. L'élégance me manques ... I was astonished a few years ago when every handbag looked as if a hardware store/quincaillerie had thrown up all over it. WHO is designing such a mess? Et comme on avait besoin de porter quelquechose de plus lourde que deja...
17:07 looks as if she was recognizing how much money she is going to lose bec of this manifesto, haha.
She's actually a model who's very pro-ethical/sustainable fashion so she is probably for this manifesto, but also with sustainability becoming a trend she is hired for more and more covers and campaigns (so she's making more money)
Liddle Li is one confused marxist who wants it both ways: she doesn’t like the idea of individual designers but couture is the future. Who will lead the idea if everyone is equal? She shows a film of some middle class guy hand making tweed in a trendy studio in east London and thinks everyone can afford this kind of clothing? Seriously? And at the end we see a couple of domestic terrorists and their quotations and finally the three French words that that heralded the French Revolution and the Terreur. This is what happens when you know nothing about history and just pick and choose what you think is trendy without any deeper understanding.
Hey it's Mrs. Doubtfire.
*SNOBISME/MINIMALISME/MAXIMALISME/SNOBISME!*
2022 and fashion dull as dish water
Videos in her speech are mute.. And I don't agree with men situation.
Everyone of intelligence in the fashion industry has known this for years, why do people only take notice when she takes credit for pointing out what was so obvoius?
Did she predict Covid I wonder, the major 'disrupter' to the fashion industry she may have overlooked!