Love it as usual both. Great work. Half tempted to say skip Damnation of Pythos because it contributs nothing to the development of the HH. But part of me does want you guys to rant about it 🤣
I think you fundamentally misunderstand Lorgar. There is no "his truth", only The Truth. It's an ugly truth but that doesn't matter to scientist like Lorgar. Lorgar never placed personal glory above his goal. It was made perfectly clear in Aurelian when chaos tempted him. Zardu Layak is a Word Bearer(not a Gal Vorbak), who fallen to corruption, and so was the perfect tool for Lorgar. Everything in the book is setting up for the siege, something Lorgar needed to happen so both the Emperor and Horus can lose, and humanity could have a future. Even if a Grim dark one. It's why he's compared to "the Golden path" from Dune and Ozymandias from the Watchmen.
@@samhobbs9116 He applies the scientific method to their research, to try and understand their universe. "God" is a classification of being, to them. Worship and Rituals are just safety protocols used to deal with chaos. It's all very apparent if you read some of their books.
@@samhobbs9116 Their religious theme is very surface level and there are a tons of memes playing to it so it's not surprising that's what most think. Lorgar stopped being a believer at Monarchia, since then he started gather data and analys it. And it by going through countless texts from the many world they conquered in the Emperors name, that he found the commonalities that lead him to Cadia and Chaos. When he learned of Chaos this was his first respons: *‘I curse the truth we have discovered,’ he confessed. ‘I curse the fact that we have reached the edge of reality, only for hatred and damnation to stare back at us from the abyss.’* *‘The truth is often ugly. It is why people believe lies. Deception offers them something beautiful.’*
Yeah boyzzzz! Been waiting for this series to continue.
Hope you enjoyed it!
Time to listen and paint!
Hooray! Always glad to see this come up on my feed!
Love it as usual both. Great work.
Half tempted to say skip Damnation of Pythos because it contributs nothing to the development of the HH.
But part of me does want you guys to rant about it 🤣
Can I ask a daft question? Is Angron ascended to daemon at the time of being beaten in combat?
I think you fundamentally misunderstand Lorgar.
There is no "his truth", only The Truth. It's an ugly truth but that doesn't matter to scientist like Lorgar.
Lorgar never placed personal glory above his goal. It was made perfectly clear in Aurelian when chaos tempted him.
Zardu Layak is a Word Bearer(not a Gal Vorbak), who fallen to corruption, and so was the perfect tool for Lorgar.
Everything in the book is setting up for the siege, something Lorgar needed to happen so both the Emperor and Horus can lose, and humanity could have a future. Even if a Grim dark one. It's why he's compared to "the Golden path" from Dune and Ozymandias from the Watchmen.
Lorgar a scientist. Riiiiiiight.
@@samhobbs9116 He applies the scientific method to their research, to try and understand their universe.
"God" is a classification of being, to them.
Worship and Rituals are just safety protocols used to deal with chaos.
It's all very apparent if you read some of their books.
@@AlexanderForsman Genuinely fair enough, I never have read any so did not know this. Just thought he was the religion guy lol.
@@samhobbs9116 Their religious theme is very surface level and there are a tons of memes playing to it so it's not surprising that's what most think.
Lorgar stopped being a believer at Monarchia, since then he started gather data and analys it. And it by going through countless texts from the many world they conquered in the Emperors name, that he found the commonalities that lead him to Cadia and Chaos. When he learned of Chaos this was his first respons:
*‘I curse the truth we have discovered,’ he confessed. ‘I curse the fact that we have reached the edge of reality, only for hatred and damnation to stare back at us from the abyss.’*
*‘The truth is often ugly. It is why people believe lies. Deception offers them something beautiful.’*