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- We start our renewed coverage of the Skaven with the rat at the top: the Great Horned Rat. He's had a lot of wins lately, and I am excited to share what the battletome says about it.
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The giant rat gets to make all of the rules.
On god fr
What kind of animal would I be? SERIOUS ANSWERS ONLY.
Rats. We're rats. We're the rats!
We're the rats we prey at night we stalk at night we're the rats@@iExploder
Warhammer Community had a post that explained why the other Chaos gods didn’t like the Skaven and what the Skaven thought of the other chaos types. As a demon of the horned rat named Clitterclaw said:
‘They scorned us, made us skitter in the shadows. Fear-filled they were, because they knew we were their antithesis. Our swarms kill with frenzy, but no rage. We scheme not for change but for changeless mastery. We defile without bringing new life. We consume without joy. Yes-yes, always have we been the rats gnawing in their bellies. They will learn this no less than the shining man-things, in this new age. We will use the Chaos-sworn, grind our foes to ruin with them. Then we shall gnash-feast on their bones too.’
I bet Malal/Malice loves the little guys
Man, seeing the Great Horned Rat go from a minor god to a major threat makes me perfectly okay if he won the Great Game.
I gotta respect his tenacity, especially since he keeps some Skaven around (Thanquol) because they're more or less funny to him.
Can't wait for the Chaos God of Order, Hashut, to come in and balance the equation once more.
Order? Sure, if greed, fire, shadows, torment, and tyranny equal order, but it's a stretch to say Chaos dwarves or other Hashut worshipers (??) represent order in anything other than the bleakest way. Which is fitting enough for Warhammer. Would be interested in a narrative involving some cultists trying to 'sell' Hashut in this way.
@@billybongos957 What is tyranny if not the ultimate imposement of order? Nagash knows this as well.
Was thinking the same thing. After all pure Order isn’t the same as Unity among peoples. Kind of like Jyggalag from TES.
@@fumarc4501Fantasy had the Gods of Law, most prominently Solkan, who are just as bad as the Gods of Chaos but coming at it from the other angle (something else stolen from Moorcock) but had tiny followings and so were nowhere near as powerful.
Them sweeping in makes a ton of sense, dwarves and skaven as eternal enemies, chaos collapsing from infighting, their general vibe fitting aos perfectly. Heard some rumors about them coming in at the end of 4th edition, increased hints in books and side games. The Dawi-Zharr are returning and I for one can't wait to slap some Fyreslayers helmets onto some non-naked bodies!
Yooooo this gotta mean we’re getting Great Horned Rat Demons too right? I know there’s the verminlords, but could we be seeing other minor demons equivalent to bloodletters or daemonettes?
So this should mean that the Great Horned Rat should have mortal followers now, and Slaves to Darkness should be getting marks of the horned rat now?
The 8 pointed chaos Star was always linked to the 8 types of magic. So the amount of Gods isn't relevant for that.
And those were linked in the fantasy lore because magic comes from chaos.
Well the Eight-Pointed Star was cribbed from Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champion stories, where ad Chaos' symbol it represents trying everything at once and going nowhere while Order's symbol is a single arrow, representing progress but without any freedom, just one direction for all.
SKAVEN GREATEST, BEST FACTION-RACE AROUND YES-YES
I really love the concept of desperation being his domain very unique and apt. Very five minutes to midnight doomsayers but also scavengers and post apocalypic survivors
The horned rat is god of ruin, he takes a bit from every other god but while they seek to build something from thier aspects (plans, life, cults and champions) the rat produces only ruins.
The Troll God. Just wants to mess everything up. Thats it. It's all.
I love every part of this. Glad we're finally getting some real info on the Great Horned Rat.
Glad you enjoy it!
Finally! Im so excited to see just how weird the Mortal Realms are about to get.
the great horned rat is tzeentching better then tzeentch
and he nurgles better than nurgle
Apparently the rat and tzeench get along quite well, not sure about nurgle..
@@cthulhluftagn3812 IIRC Nurgle will work with the Big Cheese if he has to, but he doesn't like doing so.
Tzeentch has worked with the Great Horned Rats forces in the past. Human cultists on the inside and Skaven under them ready to strike.
The idea that the realm of chaos is in effect being invaded by and corrupted by the Skaven and The Great Horned Rat... means they are chaos squared
Love your vids. You're the only AOS YT I fallow. Great job as always
This is new. Usually the Four are WAAAAY more territorial. AoS is really expanding even the Chaos Gods and the Realms of Chaos.
Fantastic!
In 40K it's just not possible
Those Minor-Gods exceptions where probably born when the Chaos Gods where Sleeping and found a Hole where hide or gave their alliance to one of the Chaos Gods
I liked to think about the Great Horned Rat as a god of Ruin. He is focused on the destruction and clans, and the aspects that they venerate are different means of destruction.
Just getting into AOS and I am waiting for the Skaventide box to arrive. This was a great introduction to Skaven and I am looking forward to listening to more of your content
Welp, Gotrek has a lot of work ahead of him.
right? haha
Yes Despair is perfect for the Horned Rat. Against order, chaos it's own siblings that play their desperate Great Game. Despair can even feed off of undead. Despair is how many come to the Flesh Eater Courts, the Soulblight are plagued by their own despair at their curses, at their hunger, at their place under Nagash's thumb, and while the Bonereapers can never feel fear. They have some freewill and I imagine many would feel the pains of despair when their Soulgems are about to be crushed. When the enemy breaks through their shield wall. Not despair at death but despair at failing Nagash whome they are programmed service forever
I dont get to play much if any age of sigmar. But Skaven sense i found out about them as a teen has always been my favorit.
With the great hirnwd rat getting the treatment he deserves i deeply hope they come to 40k/kill team.
Hell i already kitbash models into skaven just so i can have some.
Can't believe Skavenblight is no more!
Now we just need Vashtorr in 40k to ascend and join the Four Chaos Gods of that setting as the true Fifth Chaos God, he's kinda already there with how much they rely on Vashtorr and his Daemon Engines. And how he's already able to commit all kinds of chaos shenanigans like fixing up Abaddon's Planet Killer like it was nothing.
finally more AoS Lore! I have been dying for it
Now we need a video telling about how epic they are. What plans do you want now that the great horned rat is actually a god. Idk I thought it was an epic idea
Dude idk why I find skayven so kool
Favorite faction bar none
I always wanted lesser daemons for skaven, snd somehow, skaven in 40k as a new chaos faction
Nice 👍🏻, will you also make videos about the skaventide book ?
Skaven always felt more destruction than chaos to me.
Am I alone here?
Doesn't Chaos always end up in Destruction?
Malal/Malice is the same as it represent the Auto-Destructive Nature of Chaos
Ohh maybe one day we will see 40k skaven ^^
Rats!❤
Rats rats rats
Ratz!!!
Using stable to describe anything Skaven is so odd to me.
They are all the worse qualities of humans. I hope they keep that angle going into it. They deserve to be hated so much they are loved for being hated. At least, to me, thats what makes the Skaven stand out as a faction. The vile nature of them is a concept by far GWs bests works to me.
So skaven are chaos spawn now ?
rats rats we are the rats
I love to see the GHR join the pantheon - for an edition. Definitely don't want it to stay 5 gods of chaos. Hope to see Slaanesh break free and kick him off his seat for next edition!
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Isn't despair already an emotion going to nurgle (as an opposite to the hope of tzeentch)? What's the difference between despair and desperation?
Yeah I caught that too. I think Nurgle despair is like a desire to perpetuate one's existence, a regret. HR would be like primal panic, fight or flight in the face of fright.
Desperation is a active emotion, you kill out of desperation, you scrable through muck desperate for food, desperate for love you slaughter friends and family..
@@cthulhluftagn3812 In my native language (french), despair and desperation are the same word. you can either let despair eat you out and die (nurgle) or fight for your life and be ready to do anything and everything else to survive, no matter the cost yto yourself or the others. both are the result of the loss of hope, it's the same thing, just two different ways to deal with it. It's like saying khorne rage is just screaming, mindless rage but another new god is the god of wrath, explaining it as silent, focused rage, like it's different...
I'm not saying i'm against it in a vaccum but the horned rat has always been the god of all of the other gods traits pushed to the point of no return (that's why he was the god of ruin):
- he's scheming like tzeentch but he's also completely paranoid because he sees everybody as competitors trying to outscheme him makes him a more extreme version of tzeentch.
- he wants war and violence just like khorne but his war are more against his own kind (once again, his paranoia) than anybody else, skavens kill more skavens than any other races and even when they fight together they still kill more skavens than they kill enemys (friendly fire galore).
- he is perfectionism and excess, but to a ridiculous degree, skaven reproduce more than anybody else (have you seen female skavens man?) they eat each other, they all portray themselves and see themselves as the greatest-best skavens (even skaven slaves thinks they're the best).
- and finally, as said in previous comments, he is despair and pestilence (ask the clan pestilent about pests) but his form of despair is more vile and his form of pestilence is so potent that, unlike nurgle who creates life out of death, once his plagues hits, everything gets sterile, there is no cycle, just the end.
so having him be "the god of desperation" diminishs him so much in my eyes. it's not wrong, he's just way WAY more than that. he's all the other 4 but worse.
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AOS is just awful 😂😂😂