The 5 Most Advanced Races & Factions in Science Fiction | Sci-Fi Top 5
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- You thought the Forerunners or the Galactic Empire were advanced? Check out these 5 races from popular science fiction which make Star Wars and Halo look like the stone age!
On today's Science Fiction Top 5 episode, we're counting the 5 most advanced races, factions or civilizations within sci-fi. Included on this list are the Time Lords from Dr. Who, the Xeelee, the Culture and more!
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Does the council of Ricks technically count here?
Do the Enterprise e from star trek vs 2 terran battelcruisers from star craft(englisch is not my first languige)
Law is the ultimate science.
Imperium of man vs combine
Eternal empire vs flood
Combine vs Galatic empire
Cis super tank vs AT-AT walker
EckhartsLadder Can you do the federation (starship troopers) vs the republic(clone wars era)
People tend to misinterpret the term Xeelee stomp. Usually people use it to describe a battle where the odds are stacked heavily in one’s favor, but in reality it’s a battle where one side has *no chance* of victory whatsoever.
but the counter is the photonio bullcrap where they have THE ONE weird expetion that can kill them and thats the fact they somehow can exist everywhere at everytime at once
@@wilmagregg3131 the photino birds aren't really a weird exception, but more of an indescribably powerful race that we know absolutely nothing about. They're basically the Xeelee, but existing in dark matter rather than Baryonic matter. We can't use the Photino Birds as combatants in a sci-fi vs. simply because the only only thing we know about their capabilities is that they beat the Xeelee.
@@scoompaloompa but the series does explain more details about them specifally that they dont actually use technology just there natural abilitys of maniplating space gravity and time.
effetivly the photino birds are simply dark matter life forms who are unbound by the laws of time simply put you cant kill them because a previous version of them would replace them you cant stop them becauses they exist everywhere and at everytime at once.
which explains why they are nearly unstopable the issue is HOW they even as indivuials someone exist everywhere at once if you kill a photino bird with blackhole gravity it SHOULD by all laws of physics and consciouness be dead but no it will repeat instantly from a younger version of itself with all the memories of the one you killed.
effiectivly the photinos birds are like lovecraftian versions of phoneixs which is probably why the author called then photino BIRDS despite not really looking like birds.
the only two sci fi weapons ive seen capable of defeating them is the stellaris gigastructures temporal erasure gun basically a solar system sized warship with a energy weapon that if it makes contact will spread across all timelines and erasure the target from ALL of them even the photinos couldnt escape it of course youd then have to track down and kill each indvidual photio bird with it.
and then theres classic conceptual erasure basically reality warpering weapons like the infinity gaunlet that let you alter fundemtal parts of reality in which you could just say for instance "any photino bird naturally collapses into a blackhole" etc etc
@@wilmagregg3131 What is the Temporal Erasure gun supposed to be. I have played hundredds of hours of stellaris and gigasturcures but ive never encountered in any way.
@@jimmybayconn read the description for the main gun of the stellar system craft thats where it comes from
Xeelee ships are like: yo dawg I heard you like space, so I made you a spaceship out of space so you can travel in space in space
Xeelee: "Then we shall make a even more spacey space ship that is made out of dark matter and spacey stuff with our space technology that can ALSO travel in space."
This comment is priceless lmao
@@taelorpickel2830
Yep, that's the Xeelee in a nutshell.
Nice one
I loved this comment. There may be a slight typo at the end however and with your indulgence I would alter it to: "I heard you like space, so I made you a spaceship, out of space so you can travel THROUGH space in space.." 😁
I clicked on this vid expecting to have to comment, "You forgot about The Culture." You just earned some serious points in my book.
Don't fuck with The Culture!
I wanna live in the culture. I wanna travel around the galaxy in huge, beautiful sentient space craft going to great parties and having great sex while traveling to other bigger parties and festivals on distant orbitals, renowned for the great parties during the huge festivals, snorting drug bowls snd glanding my own large array of drugs, while having multiple orgasms during the great sex, because they genetically engineered my plumbing and meeting exotic aliens at their parties and that extremely sarcastic avatar of a Contact Fast Picket with the long, witty and quite threatening name and OH CHRIST I MISS IAIN BANKS! I miss him so fucking much!😫😭
SvenTviking wtf
@@SvenTviking You want slaanesh? Because that's how you get slaanesh. Though yeah I get it, but you would get bored of it after awhile though, everything in moderation. Find a hobby or a few hobbies aside from partying, fucking, drinking, eating, and doing drugs, that's not a fulfilling life on it's own. Even in a world where you don't really need to do anything and technology takes care of the tedious day to day work, it's good to have goals and interests.
@@voidstrider801 most of the Weirdness is in Virtual Realities and everyone is essentially immortal so it's basically impossible to have anything other than harmless fun.
When Xeelee came second, my heart broke, then when no. 1 was also by Baxter, I was so relieved.
Ditto. Stephen Baxter has the best scidi race concepts.
precursors > xeelee
@@Siddhant19931 The Precursors have time travel?
The Xeelee isn't the strongest in the Xeelee Sequence, that would be the Photino Birds.
@@Siddhant19931 are you crazy. Halo is my favorite, and the Precursors are ridiculous. But the Xeelee are on another level.
And they aren't even the most powerful in their universe. The Photino Birds can Xeeleestomp the Xeelee.
Is sand considered an advanced race? They're rough, many in numbers, and EVERYWHERE.
?????
Captain Cutter it was destroyed by me!
Well, it does get everywhere
Only if it`s part of the high ground
darth vader
Why hello there.
Reapers: We are the apex of all life.
Empire: Not if our Turbolasers have a say in the matter.
Forerunners: Filthy casuals.
Downstreamers: *Creative Mode Activate*
The Xeelee : Angry starbreaker noise
Photono Birds: *Gobble Gobble Gobble*
@@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 monads: look at my pets, they're playing a lot today
@@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 Photino Birds: *Lets make are home a little more comfy*
Also Photino: *uhmm shit i killed every baryonic life*
@@tsarbombawithinternetconne875 Monads: *Yawns* "Enjoy your life as a single."
*Goes back to sleep*
I am thoroughly impressed you actually included the Downstreamers, the book series is amazing, but also not very well known. Huge props man
I quite like timestamps sooo~
1:35 - Humanity over 100 billion years in the future fused with Multivac from "The Last Question"
3:04 - The Culture from "The Culture" series
4:28 - Gallifreyans/Time Lords from "Doctor Who"
5:18 - Xeelee from "The Xeelee Sequence" series
6:12 - Downstreamers from "The Manifold Trilogy"
Based on what eck says, the downstreamers sound as powerful, or more powerful, than the Beyonders from Marvel comics.
@@carrosivejones1969 The Downstreamers are... apex.
@@carrosivejones1969 yeah they’re way more powerful
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For me that the downstreamers are very far more powerful than the Beyonders and even the pre retcon because their civilization is Type VIII
The high ground is the most advanced faction
Obi Wan's faction > everything else
The virgin forerunners vs the chad xeelee.
Virgin WH40K The old one Vs CHAD XeeLee
Based on the little that we know the precursors from halo were pretty crazy
A triggered sjw fr imagine being able to transcend reality
I'm a little surprised that the precursors didn't make it. they were crazy asf. Control over time and space. being able to make life has if they were gods. I feel like he needed to research them more.
They were the masters of slipspace
lafon Wouldn't really matter, we know very little about them as it is.
Xyro we do know little, but we do know they were able to bend reality and even temporarily rewrite the laws of physics.
In the culture series, there's something way more advanced than the culture itself - whatever produced the artifact in excession, though we don't know anything about who made it or where it came from, which is kind of the point.
Currently reading that now. Hey do you remember a race , civilization called Hondomon existed there ? Even more advanced and more powerful than the Culture ? That it would be crazy suicidal if they went up against them ..
Also there's The Sublimed, civilisations that ascend beyond the material universe, such as the Dra'Azon and Gzilt
The Excession was designed to travel between universes dragging a star with it. It was essentially a solution to the Xeelees photino bird problem, a godlike AI entity able to evade entropy itself.
But do the Downstreamers have the higher ground?
I love this too much
the downstreamers can alter the universe (any universe) such that it is a physical constant that they always have the higher ground.
Downstreamers make it so that low ground is better than the high one.
I have no idea... but is that a 'Footfall' reference? ( I read it years ago!)
*B I T C H Please*
The Downstreamers have the infinite ground.
Coming from the comic book fandom, I always find it funny when people complain about Superman being "too powerful," when sci-fi has whole civilizations like this running around.
Thing is that a lot of this tech is at least somewhat possible within a stretch of the imagination. Supermans powers simply don't make any kind of sense.
Cyberwar101 Actually, fixed glasses:
Heat vision/ solar flare: Chloroplast in his cells due to Rao being a smaller star
Freeze breath: stronger lungs
Super hearing: Earth has a weaker atmosphere
Flying: weaker gravity/ more like jumping with style
Everything past that is just writers adding stuff for the sake of story
I think there’s a differences there because Superman is meant to fight against and alongside other superpowered people, and the issue is that he’s relatively overpowered compared to them. The Xeelee are powerful but they’re rivalled by the Photino Birds, and the Downstreamers are “fighting” against the natural process of heat death itself.
*American comic books suck!*
@@Blowtorch87 W..why would you ever say that?
I love that two of Baxter's races made it on the list. I first found him through the anthology Vacuum Diagrams and I've been collecting (most) of his books ever since. I'm not crazy about everything he's written, but the really hard, really large-scale scifi he writes blows my mind. I think my favorite novel of his is Flux, which takes place within the interior of a neutron star (it's part of the Xelee series of stories).
At one point, someone remarks that, in ancient times, when humanity was powerful, the greatest city was huge: one centimeter across!
But the unit used by the human inhabitants in the neutron star is mansheight , isn’t it ?? Does the novel have any explanation how they are able to survive within the harsh environment of a neutron star?
@@lamvuong5343 True, it was man-height, but some knew a conversion, apparently.
The reason they could survive is because the first colonists were uploaded human minds inside some sort of artificial clump of similar material (neutronium of some flavor).
They just saw the world and everything in it through a human mind-set, if you will, so that they appeared to have a human body-plan and the super-fluid neutrons appeared clear as air. The truth of their procreation was probably a bit different to be sure. They probably have a human-like body-plan; a head, torso, limbs; but their actual perception is a illusion built into each of their hardware.
I don't recall if the "animals" and "plants" were something ancient humans designed and colonized the star with or if they were always there.
yeah, it's really cool how it's both largely grounded and also utterly insane
Grunts (Halo) vs B1 Battle Droids (Star wars)
Foruneers vs imperium of man
Perfect Cell forerunners would win
Lord Anubis I think the Grunts would win… because when they tried to rebel (yes, they tried) they actually gave the other spicies of the covenant a really hard time. They might be cowards but when they want to fight for something, example: there planet, they are not to be underestimated
forerunners rape imperium and grunts rape battle droids.
Thyre Radim that is accurate information ;-;
This just made me realize how creative and imaginative science fiction books truly are compared to other mediums. I suppose it's easy being just written down and not having to show it but still
So glad you included the Culture! Consider Phlebas is an amazing novel in that series.
The whole series is brilliant. Glad it was included.
I really liked Hydrogen Sonata.
In my opinion, Consider Phlebas is the least good book in the series. Also limited informations about the culture itself.
Best book in his entire series for me was Use of Weapons. The pacing, the inner monologue, and another thing I won't spoil.
Excession is probably my favorite.
I like that you included the Xeelee. It's been forever since I read about them, but I remember I thoroughly enjoyed the book. I have to agree with some others here. It's hard to not include the Q from Star Trek.
Kudos on including The Culture: such a good pantheon of books. Q Continuum would be the egregious missing one as its not an individual but an entire race.
I must point out that before the Time War, the Time Lords could accomplish travel between eventualities with ease. Even after the war, it still happens a few times, mostly to David Tennant's Doctor, but Matt Smith's Doctor once showed up in a Holodeck simulation aboard the Enterprise-D, and survived when Riker said "End Program."
As for the Q Continuum....
Imperium of Men? The primitives from W40k? That was a good Joke for the Silent King - thanks xD
The Ancients from Stargate SG-1
of course only in ascended form
Even unascended they were ludicrously advanced
DJGT Yet not even close to what many of the races in this list are capable of. I like them, but definitely not top 5.
@@Yggdrasil42 but he only put timelords there because of time travel and the ancients were able to do that even before being ascended
But the Time Lords in the newer series nearly lost to the Daleks a bunch of losers who were less in so many ways but numbers and brute power so screw them, the old incarnation was better though and had real teeth.
What's the point of having a ship when you control space and time? You can be anywhere at any time you want
pew pew
EckhartsLadder ah i see
Yeah but you can be pew pew-ing at any time you want.
Vatai Akos as Kirk asked “what does God want with a starship?”
What's the point of having a car if you can walk towards any place it can reach?
Xeelee, Downstreamers and The Culture! Those I would've listed as most advanced civilizations too:) (Not in this order)
You are clearly almost as awesome as I am!
You forgot the Kerbals
Panda Shot First he said gods weren’t allowed
@@madbomer72 all hail our pill-headed overlord Jedediah Kerman
Jebadiah would wipe every race out in a second just by crashing one of his many ships
And they can summon their lord and saviour, the Kraken. The Xeelee, and even the downstreamers are no match for a space squid that has ascended above their level.
Bananappleboy World pff I don’t even know who they are :))
I would add that the Q Continuum from Star Trek were immensely powerful and could certainly control matter, space, and time. Deserving of at least the #2 spot.
Amen
They couldn't even make a universe tho
I think the Q would qualify as gods, which would disqualify them from this list. imo
If I recall, the Sleepers in the EVE universe created a perfect virtual reality that perfectly mimics the real world. This allowed them to perform any conceivable experiment with results identical to ones performed in the real world and they nearly instantaneously reached a technological singularity. Their entire race is basically locked away in VR while drones maintain their physical bodies as they see no need to physically roam the stars anymore.
77th (slightly exaggerated) attempt! XENOMORPHS vs. FLOOD! That would be an awesome matchup
You are meaning "it is a nice *FLOODSTOMP* match", right?
Hell yah!
Not even a challenge. Humans of even today’s tech can fight off Xenomorphs, whilst the flood brought the forerunners one of the most advanced races in sci fi to extinction.
Uhm... how is this a fair match? Even in the feral stage, the Flood would stomp the Xenomorphs.
Dude There’s like 7 vids on this
I probably would have included The Ancients form the Kirby Series on this list, but I don't blame you for not including them since they are so obscure.
For those not familiar with them, their feats mainly include the construction of bizarre and fantastic machines, which includes the Novas (planet sized sentient machines capable of granting any wish), Star Dream (the most powerful supercomputer in existence capable of taking direct control of Novas), The Helm (A crown that grants its wearer complete control over space and time), and the Lorr Starcutter (a Vessel Capable of traveling between dimensions and through time).
Still would probably not even hit top 10. Even with both the tech and magic division
The Yith from the lovecraftian type stories are capable of time travel, shape shifting, and corrupting everyone with their powerful psychic powers. They travel through space as they are and even a piece of them can become a fully formed yith and if all else fails they can dimension hop to one that they can more easily dominate, all while being basically giant evil trees.
Not scifi
Lovecraftian stuff is a whole new genre in itself. It would be pretty incompatible to compare beings like Downstreamers to say, Azathoth who dreamed up existence. Though I agree, the Race of Yith, as well all the races in The Mountains of Madness can be compared, considering that book/novella is the best scifi work ever penned down.
This video was amazing Eckhart! I’m so glad you featured the Time Lords, I’ve been waiting for you to even mention the Doctor Who universe for months! Cheers man aha!
Me too!
He placed them on the wrong place.
@@musicman951 number two for sure
@@gallifreyandefense I think once you consider things like The Moment, the TARDIS ending and restarting the universe as a reset button, it is pretty easy to make a case of how insanely powerful. Plus at one point in their history they decided to remove magic from the universe and create psionics instead as they found it more stable and appealing . That's some God tier feats.
@@christopherpackham732 and the crazy thing is how low ball those feats you mentioned are. Those are already so powerful and they are not even that high up.
They actually reordered the cosmos into an infinite multiverse with separate universes unlike before, and then removed magic from that infinite multiverse (not just universe), and like you said created psionics. The key note here is that Rassilon did not rewrite the laws of physics. He wrote them in the first place. He created causality, logic, math, physics, and concepts as well. This wasn't simple matter manipulation, this was straight up reality warping, and changing the very nature of their multiverse.
They created the infinite time vortex which touched every part of the Omniverse. The DW multiverse is only one of the multiverses in the omniverse. We know that the Time Vortex touched every part of the omniverse because the lampreys live in the Spiral and consider entire infinite multiverses as meals. They eat these multiverses completely or down to finite numbers. Like when Monica Lamprey ate infinite universes down to 18. They call the omniverse their restaurant.
The Time Lords also limit themselves. They choose material bodies to watch over the Web of Time, choosing to live in it than above it. Time Lords don't actually live wholly in their body. They exist as a consciousness form outside of nspace, and cannot be killed completely by body damage. As seen when the master is brought back even though he didn't regenerate. But the process was interrupted. The Time Lords also can learn Quantum Mnemonics, the language of The Great Old Ones, which can rewrite universes, or create and destroy them, with words alone. The Word Lords, another version of the Time Lords from another universe learned and mastered quantum mnemonics. The Time Lords keep the secret to its pure form in The Matrix. Their database. So they literally just have it chilling and decided not to learn it. It is apparently similar to Block Computation Transfer, which is what they and the Daleks use to build things. Block Computation Transfer is basically making physical things out of math, and hacking the universe for free stuff and endless resources. But Quantum Mnemonics is changing reality with your words.
The Transduction Barrier can take the force of 500,000 Chronovores before falling, each of which can consume dozens of universes easily and much more potentially. It anchors them to reality, makes them acausal, and protects them from antitime, all forms of matter and energy attack and many other things. Only a being such as the Carnival Queen could pass the Transduction Barrier. Though she did not overwhelm it and break it, she somehow slipped by it. It is important to note that the Carnival Queen is the collective consciousness of Time Lords who did not follow Rassilon into the rational universe and were kicked out of Nspace, and formed into a singular being. So, them being Time Lords probably has something to do with that feat of surpassing the barrier. Though with a wave of her hand, the Carnival Queen created a billion universes. So she's also incredibly powerful.
There are definitely other feats and other things to say about the things I already mentioned. Like the Eye and the Barrier have more feats and uses than I could list, and are even more powerful than I described, as well as Time Lords themselves biologically and other tech.
The Culture was great because it really went into what a society would be like with functionally infinite resources. Some other good ones: The various super races from the Lensman series by EE Doc Smith (races who are intelligent enough to visualise the entirety of space time). Also the Uprising universe by David Brin, not on par with your list but a group of mega cultures billions of years old.
Buzz light-year vs Jar Jar
Shrek stomp
@@DCapybara nope Shaggy stomps
The Ewokes should EASILY be number one!
Hey Nomad who are ewokes?
@@ar-rafirahman7700 Ewoks
I'd like to propose the Xunca, from the Alan Dean Foster Commonwealth/Flinx series. They were able to migrate their entire (multi-galaxy spanning) civilization across huge sections of the multiverse when they discovered a potentially universe-ending threat to their own, but left behind a weapon beyond even their own ability to operate for Flinx to use to eliminate the danger - anticipating the possibility millions of years before it happened.
that was pretty fun to watch. love to see expansion beyond just halo and star wars on this channel, keep it up eck
I'd like to nominate the virtual endless from endless space for this list. Lesser known but i love them.
I did not expect you to include the Xeelee! I loved those books but I always thought they were obscure.
The vex from destiny can do a lot more that the time Lord's they not only can control time they have manipulated it so that there species is a universal constant permanently intertwined with time itself, they can rewrite history whenever they feel like it.
So can the TimeLords
But they don't
They only start fucking up reality when they're at war
You forgot the combine from HL2. Considering they can burrow into alternate Universes and can create huge structures like the Citadel in no time flat, they are 100% up there in the top 20 at most.
Forgotten..
The Daleks are also incredibly powerful, and put up a very good fight against the time lords
it's videos like these that remind me why I subscribed. It's interesting, and it gives me an excuse to hear you talk. Love your work. Hope this keeps up for the foreseeable future.
The Celestials from Marvel Comics. Hands down. They were sitting pretty with the literal personification of the Marvel multiverse itself.
Not scifi
We are talking about sci fi not movies...
Nah
Im looking entire comment for hours and there's no WH40K fanboy cult community that saying there are most overpowered sci fi faction lol.
They must have realized that the downstreamers and xeelee could basically fist chaos and the collective 40k universe into dust without breaking a sweat. 40k would get xeelee stomped, multiple times. Necrons, Old Ones (they got their life "toad" away from them), Eldar (slowly going extinct) are all more advanced than the imperium, which is the most popular faction probably. Not surprised to hear crickets instead of angry butter-milk bobs.
Warhammer fits more with fantasy rather than science-fiction to be honest.
@@voidstrider801 As a 40k fan, I fully agree that any faction that Eck just mentioned could curbstomp the entire 40k universe
@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 You should have be happy the Interim Coalition of Governance are so xenocidal, hypocritical and fascistic to the point that it made the Imperium of Man look like paradise with rainbow and sunshine by comparison
Chuck Norris uses the Xeelee to pick his nose.
I think the Lantians (Ancients) should have been on the list. yeah they made the replicators which was kind of a fubar, but they invented virtually every interesting idea possible, they had time travel ability although they decided not to use it, and they ascended to different plane of existence and could travel the universe at will in the form of pure energy.
That's not half bad....
The Caeliar from the Star Trek expanded universe Destiny Trilogy novels were definitely advanced enough to end up on this list! Their technology is based around basically everything being made out of programmable catoms, including their own bodies. They build Dyson Spheres for privacy, not for power generation (because their own power generation outstrips that of a star’s output). Their entire civilization is devoted to “The Work”, an effort to scour the universe for another alien culture more advanced than they are.
If you make an honourable mentions list, please include the Isu from Assassin's Creed. In that universe, not only is their technology directly or indirectly responsible for almost all of mankind's modern inventions, but they actually CREATED man. The Apple of Eden, their most famous tool could actually control and read people's minds, create simulations of alternate histories, act as repositories of knowledge, but is also partially sentient.
Tools which act as Energy Weapons or Energy shields are mere scraps to them.
They developed tech which could (temporarily) raise the dead and have them record information, and also tech which could heal wounds and possibly give immortality to the wearer (though the last one hasn't been verified).
They can transfer their consciousness to cyberspace, create planetary sized energy shields, power sources which have lasted 10,000+ years and can actually READ the language of time.
That means that they can time travel indirectly, rather than physically going to the future, but instead knowing what would happen if certain events are triggered and triggering them to make sure that they happen while leaving any necessary messages in the process.
They are hinted at to have visited earth from other worlds and the only reason they were mostly wiped out was due to a double surprise attack of a Human-Isu hybrid led uprising and a Solar Flare which cooked the planet. On their own, each event could have been dealt with, but the two together surprised and overwhelmed them and led to their downfall.
They STILL survived that but a low population would have resulted in a population crash so they instead transferred their consciousness to their machines.
Didn’t know about this one, thanks!
Stumled across you on your halo vs star wars stuff. I love your content. Keep it up!!!
I think i would include the Endless from the endless universe... they are pretty stupid powerful....
You missed the Perry Rhodan-universe ( perryverse) from the german novel series with over 4000 novels. This is the oldest & biggest sci-fy novel series of the world and started in 1961 before Star Trek, Star Wars........ There are races like "Es" (it ) or Anti-Es (anti it), that are civilisations, that tranformend to one super mind. or the "Kosmokraten" (Cosmocrats), the "Meister der Insel" (masters of the island)...........
i hoped i would find this here as a fellow PR reader but i doubt he would know PR, and i think it could be argued that ES is a Godlike Entity altough it is techniqually not a god and the Meister der Insel arent that strong, altough Humanity would whoop most Universes ass even in the earlier parts imagine someone like the Empire trying to deal with Ships that have cannon that shoot 1000 Gigatons per shot per cannon and who have shields that can absorb that damage
The Xeelee, calling it now.
Edit: ha! I knew it!
Stanislaw Lem had a super advanced civ. They rendered a planet and it's sun cubic. They were so adanced they had nothing to do and so did nothing
eck i love your content!!! i wish you have more subs. i have watched your every single video thanks for entertaining me love ya!!
+Iraq Lobster thanks bud!
I would have to say that "The Children of the Lens" from E.E. Doc Smith's lensmen's series would have been a strong contender for this top 5.
I would add the Ancients from Stargate. Technology that reached the apex of what's possible in a mortal species, a weapon that could destroy an entire galaxy, oh and a power source that was "as great as the scope of the universe itself." And then after their Ascension, they are described as having "infinite" wisdom and understanding. A single Ascended Ancient, if unrestrained by the Collective, could lay waste to an entire galaxy...
Where would you put them?
I don’t remember them ever creating a weapon of galactic proportions. The best they got was that weapon powered by a reactor using the universes potential energy from time, and that only blew up solar system when it went boom. ZPM are pretty good tho
@@somegeek153I meant Dakara, not Project Arcturus. Dakara is referred to by multiple characters as a weapon/super weapon, and it certainly has galactic reach. But also, the Attero Device is a galaxy-wide weapon against the Wraith. I would also classify the Pegasus Replicators as a weapon of galactic scope, given they were created to exterminate the Wraith and had the ability to grow their numbers and make their own ships and weapons to do so.
@@Gandalf1232 not gonna lie. Completely forgot about the Dakara weapon
@@somegeek153 😋that's alright
The Commonwealth, Peter F Hamilton... Mind blowing sci fi and really cool technology
Glad you included the Last Question, it was a great story and got me started on Sci-Fi.
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (60th attempt at a video for this, *_I._** SHALL NEEEEEEEEEVER EEEEEEEEVER GIVE UP ON THIS!!!)*
coming up on infra-red good luck
He hasn't included the ascended Ancients on this list, so I reckon he's not very familiar with Stargate.
@Thelondonbadger even with darth sidious dark side power the empire would be done in weeks if not days (even the rebel alliance defeated them lol). Stargate hyperspace tech is a straight shot, in Star Wars the fisical universe affects hyperspace travel. The ancients would be able to pop up anywhere and shred fleets of star destroyers with drone salvos without any casuality, I doubt the empire ships even had time to fire back.
@Thelondonbadger lantean ships in pegasus had the intergalactic-range hyperdrive capped so the wraith could not reverse engineer them, but they can be easily configured back to intergalactic range as Mckay did with the Orion before the battle of the void. Even their other FTL ways of travel (Destiny and seed ships FTL drive) were out of reach for any other known civilization.
Ive came from the future, you already have 300 attempts
Honestly im surprised. You have done your research. A solid list.
Glad the Culture got a nod :-D
The time lords invented the laws of physics, they did this ‘cause they didn’t like the ‘magic’ of their verse
You should have a look into the Perry rhodan universe looking for the superintelligence and the cosmocrats
The Q Continuum, maybe the aliens from 2001 a Space Odyssey, or the Celestials from Marvel.
I would also add The Q Continuum and the Celestialsapiens
The Dancers at the End of Time by Michael Moorcock. They can manipulate matter to their whims and time travel is no big whoop.
Your forgetting about the shevians from Decent freespace, they can destroy starsystems on a whim
I don’t think they’d make it onto the list
Not very impressive for these races
I'm surprised Stargate wasn't even mentioned. The Ancients, Ori, and Asgardians were all super advanced. The Ancients were so advanced the ascended to higher plane of existence and seemed to have unlimited knowledge.
the Interim Coalition of Governance should definitely be above the culture it also has the bonus of being possibly the most grimdark government to ever exist even the Imperium pales in comparison
Anime has got civilizations which are so outlandish that most civilizations which cannot traverse dimensions are automatically disqualified from any top 5 list which includes them.
I'm extremely psyched to learn that your interest in SF goes as deep as it does. I freaking love the Xeelee cycle and didn't even know about the Manifold series...off to Amazon I go!
The citadel of ricks sounds like a possibility(For 5th place atleast). They can move through different universe's, and can "possibility" move through time. They can also create a universe inside a battery. plus there is basically an infinite number of them since they come from an infinite parallel dimension
how about the Q from Star Trek.
Ks Twister I second the Q
@@Clockwork_YT the Q would stop 5th and 4th, they'd struggle against the time lords and get stomped by 1 and 2
@@NathansWargames I don't think they would struggle against the Gallifrayans
@@kenetickups6146 it would be fun both are battle hardened races with the Q fighting among themselves and the Gallifrayans trying to keep peace throughout time and space
Barring the Q from Star Trek the Iconians are pretty nutty. Unlimited control of space and limited control over time through their gateways
Yes, the Q from Star Trek are missing. And the Cosmocrats and Chaotarcs from the german novel series "Perry Rhodan".
TIMELORDS!
How about the Photino Birds from Xeelee sequence? A Type 5 civilization made out of dark matter.
Good video, love these.
The Mice from Hitchhiker's Guide? Or the dudes who build the second most powerful super computer in the universe.
The Culture, Iain M. Banks “Culture novels”.
Wait, the answer is "let there be light ?" it's not 42 ?, damn, this computer lies to me
The Ancients aka Alterrans from the stargate franchise. Originally the first evolution of intergalactic humans and the "gate builders", they ascended and gained the knowledge and control over an infinite universe(and all derivations).
Guessed three out of those. Downstreamers, Xeelee, and Timelords. Even in the same order.
Harrower Dreadnaught vs Venator Star Destroyer
Anal prolapse vs aggressive chihuahua
Kenneth Kates This needs to happen! The Harrower is my absolute favorite ship in Star Wars. And I also love the Venator. I think the Harrower could win despite being more than 3,600 years older than the Venator class. Fun fact: Venator is latin for hunter, so it's basically a Hunter class Star Destroyer.
1 GSV vs. the entire combined Star Wars universe.
The GSV wouldn't even have to devote it's full attention.
The systems alliance (mass effect) vs the forces of earth in Star Gate
Steve 343 I’d say the tau’ri
Steve 343 SGC would win, hands down. Assuming it's around the time of SG:U, and that it's a single battle, the 9 BC-304s the SGC had at the time could take on the Systems Alliance fleet. They were basically on par (if not superior to) ascended Ancient tech. The Systems Alliance would win in an all out war, however, as they could split their fleets to a greater extent than the SGC, and the Systems Alliance would only really have to take out Earth to succeed.
SGU would win. The mass effect civs basically have modern or near modern tech with a cheat mcguffin. They just have a magic material called element zero that makes all their tech run.
Compare that to the SG earth - constantly advancing in the face of adversity. Building spaceships without magic metals. Guns that keep working... Directed energy weapons... Access to essentially a portal to evacuate to countless worlds in the galaxy and beyond. At first the system's alliance would win... But the SG people would surpass them in a matter of years.
Thanks for "The Last Question" reference, I'll look into it. 👍👍👍
I'm thinkin' Necrons, as their technology can warp the fabric of space, time, and reality, and if their tombworlds were to all awaken then they'd be the most dangerous threat in the entirety of 40K and be able to possible warp all of reality at once
wtf stray nemesisbloodryche comment from 6 years ago
Q Continuum from Star Trek
Ascended ancients Stargate SG1
I agree about the Q, how can near omnipotent beings who can traverse the multiverse as well as time not be included?
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The Q may be more powerful that the Time Lords, though it is debatable if the Q are a civilization really and not more of a pantheon of gods.
The Xeelee would most likely stomp them flat though. Near omnipotent and able to travel through time and reality is a pretty good description for them as well.
@@corvididaecorax2991 I think most, if not all of Q's feats could be reproduced by the time lords. And since there's really no explanation for them, I think there isn't enough out there to conclude the Q continuum would beat the time lords.
I would consider the commonwealth at the end of the void trilogy to possibly be above the culture.
The Hegemony of Man, The AI Technocore, and The Ousters are well worth consideration and are from the same universe.
At the very least I've a few more titles to look into. Good list. :)
Not sure why the Q aren’t on this list. Basically everything you said about number one is also true with the Q.
They are more like a god or fantasy being and not a scientific being.
They wouldnt be number 1 still, because of the scale of the manifold cosmology.
Have you watched Stargate SG-1, or any of the Stargate series? The Asgard in that series are very impressive. They show feats of time manipulation and physics manipulation. Another race there would be the Nox. They can make themselves and things invisible. The Tolan are also quite interesting.
Place 4. The culture are essentially the eldar before the fall.
I love the last question, I ended up writing a whole essay on it
I would definitely swap 3 and 2 because once you delve into the expanded universe of Doctor Who especially the Big Finish audio dramas and the Doctor Who books running in the 90s, you will see just how powerful the Time Lords really are. I would highly recommend the book 'A Brief History of Time Lords' to get are more in-depth look at them as a species. I think this quote really sums up how powerful/capable the Time Lords are: "We will ascend to become creatures of consciousness alone. Free of these bodies, free of time, and cause and effect, while creation itself ceases to be." - Rassilon (President of Gallifrey).
The Terragen/Sephirotic Empires from Orion’s Arm. They’d Xeelee-stomp even WH40k’s imperium.
Not to mention the ICOG are more terrifying than the Imperium, the ICOG Xenocidal can make Khorne have a massive erection and made the Imperium look like Disneyland in space
The Eldar should've been on this list, they can play some music to simply spawn matter and shape it into technology like planet sized ships.
So great to see the Baxter shoutouts.