The reason he did not destroy the special grade curses was because his curse technique was on cool down. Otherwise, things would have ended up as you said
@@justinfox1432gojo has shown he can use domain expansion 5 times in a short period of time and could have just used his 0.2 second domain expansion for a couple seconds longer.
To me the bigger issue isn't that Gojo is guilty of the Shibuya Incident as no one could've predicted that he would be put out of commission at the start of the incident. The bigger issue is the whole corruption of Jujutsu society, who instead of doing everything in their power to minimize the damage that Geto/Kenjaku was doing they instead focused on hunting down Gojo's allies and reducing the Gojo family's influence.
Satoru's good morality is what is used by the big bads to trap him. He could not Hollow Purple Suguru at the KFC as a lot of people were there. This was also Kenjaku's plan and it worked. Once Satoru held back to save ppl at the station with his 0.2s DE and yes in the manga it was mentioned they all went back to their life. But yea Satoru did fuck around and ruin some shit like not destroying Suguru's body in JJK0
"He could not Hollow Purple Suguru at the KFC as a lot of people were there". EXACTLY! He hesitated then and how many people got killed by Geto's shenanigan's until last year's events? Not to mention a part of the city destroyed and some of Jujutsu School too during the Night of a Hundred Demons. After that, he should have gone into a no nonsense mode and kill every big threat he comes across. He already committed a terrible crime - killing a best friend, who's decent into misery he failed to see and prevent. So there is no way that he wouldn't do all out, after letting Jogo and Hanami escape from him before.
I really think Gojo's performance and the disadvantages he submited himself to where an ego thing. I'm not saying he didnt take the situation seriously or was dumb, but he was unwilling to admit the fact that the enemy drove him into a corner, he was just that overconfident in his abilities, even if the tought of wanting to save people is a selfless one. He would rather make a gamble on creating a highly exausting maneuver with his 0.2 domain flex to end all transfigured humans instead of the curses because to the very end, he believed he could just batman walk towards them and kill them all, eventually. His aproach was basically "Oh you did _this and that?_ I can do something better, what will you do now?" He effed arround and found out
I totally agree! It was very weird when Gojo basically explained his technique to Jogo in their first encounter. I realize that in JJK world explaining your technique makes it stronger, but if Gojo is already too strong, did he really need to do that? Moreover, sometimes the drawbacks of explaining the technique outweighs the benefits (in this case, the curses gained experience and learned to form a plan around Gojo's abilities). I like how in comparison Todo got an edge over many curses by being smart with hiding details of his technique. Gojo's ego probably got him thinking "so what, this weak curse couldn't win he learned about my technique". His ego is his worst enemy...
Retarded take. Gojo did all of that because Gege wanted him out of the story so he had to make stupid mistakes and use 1/10 of his power to achieve that goal.
He said that he wasnt sure if 0.2 seconds was going to keep them unconscious long enough since they are special grade. Would've been a waste if they just regained their senses. Would've been back to square 1 and had to cast another domain and give people more brain damage
Also the transfirgured humans would've been stun locked longer cause for one their grade 2 at best and have a way worse understanding of ce than the spirits and their curse spirits not humans so they'd prob recover fast anyways their brains are not like humans exactly he def fumbled with that
@@enma8441it was still strong enough to keep them unconscious for 300 seconds or 5 minutes in normal time long enough for him to kill them and they were still stunlocked during kenny little monolog spill he'd be able to easily dismantle jogo and hanami if she were there and find dagon hiding if he since irregular ce levels kenny probably would've dipped before it hit and waited for him to finish so he's off the table and choso he'd just knock out since he had no interest in killing him prob wanted to question him idk and he'd still have like 230 sec or some time to deal with mahito and kill or leave all the transfiguration humans to see if shoko or some scientists can figure out a way to reverse the soul damage or keep mahito alive to ask how the soul works and how repair it or force him to reverse them maybe a binding vow letting sukuna out and no killing yuji and he'll let him go for now until he sees him again or something but that depends on his moral companies but ye it always feels like gege does not use his abilities to the upper limits and apart of that might have to do with his hatred for his complicated mathematical abilities and how strong and broken he is
also, literally everyone in this show, besides maybe yuji, is an absolute psychopath. not only can gojo not afford to not throw the switch in this trolley problem situation, i have a hard time believing that he would be the kind of person to be concerned about that. trying so hard to avoid killing people directly at the cost of even more lives is just out of character for him.
I think the reason he does that is also partly because of the higher ups. If he were directly responsible for people’s deaths through collateral damage, it might bring his plan to change jujutsu society in jeopardy.
@@mahistv no it's just what I would do if I was gojo. Literally the first thing I thought was. "If I was Gojo the net loss of life in the anime would be lower if I just blue orb these 4 dudes or just blast em with purple. Since if something happens to me or the other chars (even if it's not death) way more people would die then I would kill." Which I predicted accurately happened.
Purple would cause unnecessary casualties no? It can be evaded, and it can't be stopped. Same with blue. It pulls things including people towards it. If anything, maybe red, a bit destructive but it could work.
@@pablogr6960i am pretty sure he could just glue them with blue and to kill off mahito he could just add red to tht blue so he wouldnt need a 0.1mm purple
Plot armor had to work overtime for the baddies for gojo to be sealed. Author created a character with a op ability and couldn’t come up with a way for the plot to progress without breaking logic
Thanks Mahis. When I was watching this season I felt something was off but couldn't put my finger on it. I'm glad to see this point being addressed clearly. I have a humble theory that Gojo's behavior (summarized in the quote about him getting used to being the best) got worse after Geto switched sides. The very few times we've seen Gojo getting angry or emotional to the point where he breaks his "carefree" façade were related to Geto. I theorize that his "failure" with Geto hit him not just on a career level as a sorcerer but also on a personal level. This sudden reality check or trauma (leading to PTSD?) exacerbated his over-inflated ego in order to cope; he now has to act like the best 24/7 to feel that he is in control. It's like when someone doesn't put his 100% in a game or challenge so that when they lose they can subconsciously justify to themselves "meh, I am still a winner, I just chose to lose cuz it's such a drag, I could have been serious and won at anytime". Also, "the normies who criticize my decisions don't understand, they're just weak". I agree that all the JJK sorcerers are psychopaths - a job hazard (sadly, our boy Yuji might be becoming one) and some use humor or goofiness to cope with the atrocities they have to witness or do. The worse the situation, the goofier some become to cope. I believe for Gojo this is also exacerbated after Geto's problem. The goofiness and inflated ego as coping mechanisms shields him from processing emotions. Compare that to Yuji and Nanami, amongst other characters, who self-reflect and process their weaknesses or limitations head-on. This makes me believe that while Gojo is strong as a sorcerer, he might be weak emotionally and mentally as opposed to some other JJK characters, which leads to his "dumb decisions" that we see. I'm excited to see what happens next in terms of story and character development!
Thank YOU for watching. Funny you say that, I didn't really like how this video was shaping up, because I felt I wasn't making myself clear. Still, this is a very interesting idea you bring up!
imagine there a jjk story game that allowed mcs to do what they did not done in the actual manga for example, an option to go all out during shibuya incident as gojo
Well said, i expected gojo to one shot the disaster curses even while holding back . He's strong enough to knock a full power sukuna unconscious ,these guys should have been easy work.
Gojos base speed isnt as crazy as youd think. He uses his blue ability to pull himself places and thats what makes him so fast. However that would also suck in people and murder them so he refrained from using it
Also, Gojo specifically didnt destroy Getos body to honor him… others wanted him to just destriy getos bod, if Geto was cremated, Kenny wouldnt get his body
To be fair, Jogo is only alive because of plot. When he first met Gojo, he could have EASILY been destroyed, but Gojo wanted to get information from him.
it's gege's fault mf is obsessed with killing everyone thinking it make good plot that he is willing to make everyone act dumb in order to advance his idea of a "good plot"
Yeah, even now he bullshits his way into a "not happy ending", even retconning already established stuff. And honestly this could be a hot take, but I think JJK's ending is gonna suck ass. Because Gege has bullshited his way into the ending he envisions too much that any ending he comes up with will be terrible
Gojo couldn’t use his CT after the Domain, so it wasn’t possible for him to use blue or purple to the downed cursed spirits. Maybe he could have healed his CT like he did with Sukuna but even then, that still took some time and that’s IF he was even capable of doing it - Yuta didn’t even think healing a CT was possible until Gojo did it, so it’s possible that it was a case of Gojo just trying something he’s never done before. He’s not massively more manoeuvrable in the fight because his his massive speed advantage comes from him using blue, which is why Kenny refers to him as a wrecking ball for non-sorcerers, hence they flooded the location with people so he wouldn’t use it. After using his Domain, Gojo has no idea how long Transfigured humans will remain unconscious-he’s never fought one before and they already have their brains tampered with so the effectiveness of IV isn’t something he can just intuitively know with them. This alongside the fact that the special grades could have woken up at any time, I think Gojo made the reasonable decision to not just get put back into the same situation pre-domain/potentially worse without a CT. “Humans killed by Gojo vs Humans killed by Curses” IS a meaningful difference, it’s delusional to think it’s not. A Gojo who preemptively sacrifices humans to save more is not the Gojo we have nor is it the Gojo we’d want because that’s a fuckin hell-scape of a world to live in. There are definitely things Gojo COULD have done, like killing Choso immediately since he couldn’t use domain amplification (so his only role was to apply pressure by killing humans) or destroying the train the moment he heard it coming, which would kill the Transfigured Humans all in one shot and could have potentially killed Mahito. But I don’t think it’s fair to blame Gojo or anyone for not making all the right decisions when preventing others from doing something terrible, you can literally run back that timeline of blame endlessly, and cutting it off at Gojo’s arrival is totally arbitrary.
1. Why is he not about to use CT? Mahito recovered almost instantly and he only used his DE 3 times in his life. 2. Bullshit. If Aoi Todo know that they are 2nd Grade, Gojo should also know that, not to mention his 6 Eyes. As for Special Grades waking up at any time, it's all the more reason to focus on them, rather some low level curses. 3. Gojo literally killed his best friend before, in comparison to that, killing a few hundred random people to save thousands is nothing. Also, you seem to miss my point - Gojo failed so many times (resulting it a lot of dead people), that he should finally stop messing around. 4. Again, you contradict yourself saying “Humans killed by Gojo vs Humans killed by Curses” IS a meaningful difference, it’s delusional to think it’s not" and "Gojo COULD have done, like killing Choso immediately (whos job was to apply pressure by killing people". So by Gojo leaving Choso alive, he indirectly killed people who were killed by Choso. I specifically said I won't go back to blame Gojo's past and the reason I blame him now, is because he didn't learn from his past.
@@mahistv 1. Mahito is a curse; not human so it may work differently for him fundamentally, but more importantly he’d just landed a black flash. Oh yeah AND we’ve already seen that in the fight against Sukuna, Gojo’s CT took way longer to recover than Mahito and that was with Gojo specifically using RCT to heal it not just waiting for it. 2. Todo knew they were roughly second based on reports, Gojo likely knew the same, but that’s completely irrelevant. He didn’t know how long it would take them to recover and he knows that they’ve had their brains tampered with so he doesn’t how long they’d be paralysed, especially considering he didn’t know the same thing for people, he just instinctively assumed they could only survive being in IV for 0.2 seconds. His 6 eyes are irrelevant here, as the special grades could have woken up at anytime I.e. his 6 didn’t tell him how long they’d be paralysed so it wouldn’t help him know how long anyone else would be paralysed. Had he gone for the special grades without having a CT it’s even more likely they’d wake up, Jogo was able to move and respond immediately after IV in their first fight because Gojo touched him within IV after he was in there for way longer than 0.2 seconds so it’s entirely possible that without his CT, Gojo just assumed he couldn’t just one shot him without waking him first. Then Jogo runs using the humans as shields, wakes up the others and now Gojo is in the exact same situation again just without his CT and he doesn’t know if the transfigured humans may wake up. 3. Gojo killed Geto because he was the bad guy who needed to be stopped from doing what he was already doing, he wasn’t an innocent bystander; what even is that comparison? Sure, killing Geto would have been hard but it was the right thing to do morally for Gojo, it’s not even nearly approaching the same moral question of sacrificing innocents to save more. 4. No I didn’t contradict myself, if you want to say Gojo failed, sure I’d agree. However, there’s a difference between saying he failed and it’s his fault. I fundamentally reject the idea that Gojo “indirectly” killed anyone. Jogo, Mahito, Hanami and Choso killed those people, not Gojo. Gojo made mistakes in the fight like the things I mentioned, and failed to stop them; but he is not morally accountable or to blame for their deaths, the blame lands squarely on the people who actually killed them. If you start holding people morally accountable for “indirectly” killing like that then there is no end to that blame game, past or present, Nanami, Naobito and Kusakabe indirectly killed all those people by not being on floor B5 to help in that moment because they decided Gojo was better off on his own. The “indirectly killing” idea is a ridiculous line of logic, especially when assigning blame morally, completely backwards morality. 5. You say you blame him for not learning from his past, what past? When in the past had a bunch of people died because Gojo was “messing around”? What was he supposed to learn this lesson from? Gojo failed and because he failed, The Shibuya Incident happened. That doesn’t mean The Shibuya Incident is Gojo’s fault.
@@mahistvthe burnout of ct after domain is totally arbitrary . It changes all the time . And Mahito has just more plot armor also the black flash can be a reason .
Shibuya never made sense expecialy later in the manga where we see how big the gap is between Gojo and the cast yuta alone can kill the special grades with no effort and Gojo is way faster
yuta isnt beating jogoat or geto brain at this time. after he gets abilities from the literal strongest people through out history sure but without that I don't think so.
It's not a matter of power, it's a matter of personality. Gojo could've easily stomped them, like damn near instantly but he started playing with them, to make them realize they fucked up, and when he started to take the battle seriously, they piled on more humans so Gojo couldn't go all out. Plus, powerscaling holds little weight when trying to tell a story, if an author needs a character to lose, they will lose
@@rodneylane952 like it doesnt make sense because even if people are there it's in character for Gojo to blitz his apponents before they react like the multiple times he did against sukuna and Gojo in their first fight and Gojo is stronger than hanami and choso and choso is human curse hybrid so terring of his head dead and grabbing and teleporting the others one by one come on
well technically this can be prevented, if the 2 girls went to ask gojo instead of bringing sukuna, not only the fact that gojo will know that his best friend isnt actually his best friend, and the prison realm wont work because gojo will not lose focus for 1 minute. Kenjaku was just really lucky during shibuya.
Had I used the 0.2s DE, I would have turned Jogo into sashimi before dealing with the transfigured humans lol Though I think we are re-evaluating this scenario because we know how much worse things got because of how bad Shibuya was handled.
There is 100% SOME level of hindsight here, but as I've said - Gojo let both Jogo and Hanami escape from him, which resulted this mess. You must understand that these guys are dangerous, if they can run away from you, the strongest.
@@mahistv I agree- bringing Yuji just so he can see what a special grade curse is like was a bad move on so so many levels. If he was alone that night, he could have iced them both. The fiasco during the goodwill event too ...
Another counter claim would be that the easiest option is to sacrifice all of the civilians in the train station while trying to save as many of them is the hardest option and as the strongest he will attempt the impossible. That is how one becomes great, by challenging the impossible, taking the easy way out is what weak people do. Hope I don’t sound too dramatic
I get what you are saying, but given that Gojo messed up several times just in the recent year (was played by Geto and put Yuta in danger (and a lot more people by extension if Geto succeeded), let Jogo and Hanami escape, couldn't defend JJ School), this is not the time for "trying to bite more than you can chew"
This is something I think the story makes evident, human nature will always cause brief moments of hesitation, where as a curse is chaos, that I think is part of why Gojo lost
I wish they put more emphasis on that, because an example of a hesitation - is Sebas who was told to kill Tsuare. This is more of a "trying to have your cake and eat it too", as he was trying to win and save everyone.
@@mahistv I think this made evident in the itadori/ mahito fight, it is in a curse’s nature to be chaotic where as a human is more empathetic, both are acting as they should, which leads to how they talk and fight
i mean his technique was burnt out after using domain expansion so he had to do everything using reinforcement alone so he couldn't use hollow purple or even just a normal blue to kill the special grade curses
Not true. The technique comes back in a bit, Mahito's did within seconds. Even then. Rip his damn head off! Choso will 100% die, Gojo will be severely injured and disabled, Mahito... lt will take more but yeah.
The problem is that Theoretically, Gojo has A LOT of raw, destructive power behind him. But Practically, he can't use it to destroy THAT many people with no consequences. Even from a Utilitarian Standpoint. Curses and Cursed Energy are borne from human emotions, specifically negative emotions like Fear, Anger, and Despair and death releases a LOT of Cursed Energy. It's the same reason why Geto's plan to eliminate all non sorcerers was stupid, Killing THAT many people at once would give birth to a Large cursed spirit that might be even stronger than anything else in the verse as it's power would be increased proportional to the numbers of people who die fearing Satoru Gojo.
I see the dilemma he was stuck with here but the worst part is he didn't even have to kill all of the disaster curses if he just prioritized killing Mahito OR ripping off Jogo head and blowing it up via Red or Blue the story stops 🤣
The thing that bugs me about Gojo's character is how he his "Six-Eyes" can't show him how short-sighted he is. The first time I saw him let Jogo get away before his eyes due to carelessness, I thought he'd think "wow I really messed up, people are counting on me so I can't let it happen again". But no. He has no self-awareness. Once again he lets Hanami and the others get away, a second time. The got more and more powerful each time. People lost their lives in the story and he just cannot *ever stop gassing himself up* . I never thought he was cool, just really arrogant. And as you said, Shibuya was the last nail in the coffin, he never learned his lesson. He should have killed the disaster curses.
when did he ever let them get away? When he first met jogo he couldnt kill him cuz he needed answers to his questions then the plants technique made him weaken his guard which he immediately snapped out of. Then he couldnt go after the curses cuz yuji was about to get cooked. When he sees hanami again the the literal first thing he does to him is fire his strongest technique then her dug and escaped.
I mean, he’s the strongest. I think that comes with territory, because as far as he’s seen, he’s not in any danger from low-level special grades so long as he can use his cursed energy, which is nearly infinite due to the power of his six-eyes. I think it makes sense for him to be so arrogant, although I understand why that may make him unlikeable.
@@coreythepeanut You cant even say he's arrogant tbh the definition is "having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities." My guy is so op the curses were strengthened to counter him. Most plans the villains make revolve around making it so he cant help the main cast.
That'd be interesting. Imagine an Sorcerer of old finding out about Kenjaku's plan and be like - "Oh, I wanna see what the future Golden Age of Jujutsu will be like" and accept his deal just because they live during a boring period.
Mahis i agree with you completely. Good job 👍🏽. Maybe this will be expanded upon the in upcoming seasons.Also the only counter to your argument i have is Gojo is human. He is not a god or angel. He can make mistakes. Maybe all the chaos made him panic and so he was not able to make the right choices. Gojo had to be careful while killing the corrupted humans so normal humans don't get hurt.
I agree with the "human" part, and that's exactly why I say "he should understand his position" as the strongest, because way too much depends on him. He made too many mistakes and hasn't learned enough from them. "Such arrogance" (c) Cinder Fall
INNOCENT CIVILIANS!! If you read the manga, that is what he was trying to do but there were innocent civilians so he was unable to without killing the civilians.
Lowkey I think this video falls into the trap of "Why didn't the character do the exact perfect thing needed for this narrative situation? Are they stupid?" >Gojo was being mentally pushed by all of the options against him. The curses, the causulties, and the newly added threats >The .2 domain expansion was a way to lockdown everyone; transfigured humans included >Jogo says that Gojo is fine with civillians dying, but not by HIS hand. He will not actively endanger them. Going after the curses and leaving the transfigured humans would make him copable. That's against his mindset Saying he should just say "Screw it" and pop the domain misses the entire point of that. >If Gojo was that kind of person, Kenjaku wouldn't have a body to puppet. (the greater good) >If Gojo was that type of person, he wouldn't have hid the last finger to dodge Yuji's execution. (the greater good) >If Gojo was that type of person, the entire shibuya incident wouldn't have happened (as it's an obvious trap, so just let the civillians die and avoid it) >if Gojo was that type of person, he would've jsut turn 1 popped his domain expansion and murked everyone there. But he is not. That's the whole point. Attacking the curses isn't a smart move either. Ignoring the fact that they could've woke up at any moment, Gojo does not have his cursed technique to defend himself or do hax (as a result, he cannot just hover above them and boom them with a hollow purple) He doesn't know the brain trick at this point, so even HE is not immune to domain expansion burnout And to reiterate let's go over the canidates here: >Jogo: A curse who could easily one shot him if woken up >Choso: An anomaly but considering that Jogo is a glasscannon, he should be more durable than him >Mahito: he literally can't touch him! Not to mention the fact that Gojo was going off a "I'll figure it out later" basis since he was pushed against a wall with all the transfigured humans. He NEVER could've predicted the main villainw ould walk in puppeting the corpse of his bestie The only mistake Gojo ever made was not destroying Geto's body. But it humanizes him because that's his best friend, despite everything he's done Gojo is such a fascinating character because despite all his strength, he is powerless to actually change the world around him. Both due to his character and emotions
That's a whole lotta yap to justify Gojo's mistakes. If you're going to go "everything he did is because he's just that kind of person" then everything in Shibuya ultimately came down to what kind of person Gojo was, and he still is at fault for being the person that he is. You can't not hold Gojo accountable because "it's the kind of person Gojo is", in fact that's exactly why he is accountable for these mistakes. Gojo could've easily one-tapped all of them with reverse cursed energy while they were recovering from his domain. We see Yuta do this to curses so why wouldn't Gojo be able to do the same, given that he's on a different level from literally every other sorcerer including Yuta?
@@awkwardbound569Gojo cannot use the reverse cursed technique on others. Shoko, Yuta, and Sukuna are the only three that can do that. Everyone else with reverse cursed technique can only apply it to themselves or their cursed technique reversals (if they even have a reversal). Correct if I am wrong but I am pretty sure this is the case.
That's the nutshell of it. Gojo was overconfident thinking that he's the strongest. After being almost killed by Toji, I thought he would've been in caution mode all the time while wearing a facade of the overconfident guy...
Oh man I can’t wait for you to watch the final mha arc whenever it gets animated because there’s SO many moronic choices by the heroes that put civilians and their own allies in dangers it makes Gojo look like the most meticulous man in the planet
5:30 gojo used hos physical abilties not bullets meaning he had to run around and kill 3 transfigured humans With this Fists per second Not with bullets its different
@@mahistv but if we go into the speedster feats then its not even impressive some versions of The flash took millions of people out of a city before a Nuke exploded the city It depends on what you consider impressive is
Gojo’s problem is pretty common in the business world. Underestimate the problem because it works well in the last decade. You know you’re the top and look down on your competitors. Too slow to cut down or sacrifice a losing branch. But he did one thing right which saved the story: he focus a lot on his subordinates so he’s not the only champion, which is importance in the next phase that they need to fight in multiple fronts. Having good subordinates also saved him from the sealed fate and allow the story to progress, to the infamous part fighting Sukuna
Agreed, the only reason the world still has hope, is because Gojo had a certain level of foresight. "If I kill all the higher ups right now, they will be replaced with the same ones. So I have to raise a new, better generation that will take over".
5:09 the buggest argument as to why this plan even worked was because of all the humans it limits gojos abilities to just punching (atleast they assumed that then he got hanami into a corner away from any humans and turned her into paint then he did the 0.2 second domain expansion) a gojo without the ability to one shot them with blue red or purple? Not to mention they had away around infinity plus more hostages then they needed? It makes sense why kenjaku assumed these weaklings could do it well its because they could with all these factors taken into account
Even if Shigaraki was arrested, Kurogiri will most likely rescue him, Muscular would Slaughter 1A, Bakugo would never be rescued and most likely killed. Nine would get the cell division quirk and be unstoppable, if Shigaraki is completed before Nine gets to him then he will kill Nine and become even stronger than he is in the story. And Humarise would kill billions with those quirk bombing all over the world.
Hmmm. I wonder if Deku would have died there... He has full couling at 5% and Shiggi's decay was pretty slow at that time. Yeah, he'd have needed urgent help, but I doubt he would have died.
With great power comes fear and hate from the old guys at the top that want a reason to kill you beside "we are scared" because that would make them look even worse then they already are
0:33 Fun fact, that actually varies according to each country's legislation. Many countries in the west work under the "good Samaritan law" But many other countries, like my home country of Brazil, operate under a "duty to rescue" law, so if you have the ability to easily save some random person drowning in a one-inch puddle, but you choose not to, then you are legally liable for a "failure to rescue" 0:46 interestingly Japan takes a bit from both models, where most citizens are subject to laws closer to the "good Samaritan model", but doctors and other health professionals are subject to, "duty to rescue laws" anyway, I hope this comment was interesting, your video was great mate
JJK is so hype, and the writing can be so complicated, that you're just along for the ride. But if you stop and think about it videos like this make a lot of sense.
i think you should also account in the fact that if gojo were to kill a non sorcerer regardless of reason he would become an outlaw especially since the higher ups hate his guts which is probably why he is so firm on not killing anyone himself while he COULD kill everyone in that station and put the pseudo getos plan to a complete halt he would ALSO lose almost all support and position he was working towards and make his personal goal of building a better jujutsu system basically impossible while you can say this is a selfish thing to do its also hard to argue he was completely in the wrong since he was just following the rules given to him tldr; its the systems fault
The only answer i can get of the top of my head for all of this is that Gege decided not to care enough to write him to win.the guy did openly say he hated him 😅
Making Gojo after his domain expansion really made him look weak compared to what we’ve seen and are going to see in the future. Not only that but based on the basketball scene flashback Gojo doesn’t much care about his responsibility to save people.
I didn't saw it that way, but now I can't unsee it. Even with tasking Megumi to recover the equal of a nuke in piece, Gojo fucked it up from the start. My view on it, with his "Nah I'd win", is that he thougt, even with the worse scenario of all time, he could fix it up cause' that's what a God could do. But even gods can bleed.
Gojo has been characterized as the kinda person who doesn’t want to take away people’s futures he is by no means perfect and your absolutely right he took the sub-optimal path during the fight in Shibuya but it’s consistent with his character and personally I think that’s more important If Gojo was the type of guy to mercilessly go for the most optimal strat even if it disregarded innocent lives then he would have killed Yuji the second he hate Sukuna’s finger part of it is arrogance and ego yes but it’s also the fact that he hates that kind of thinking it’s why he so often buts heads with the higher ups in Jujutsu society
Hmmm, I can argue that he is both weak and strong mentally. Because one minute he goes against the entire JJ Institution, the other he is being indecisive.
@@mahistvyes he is being indecisive because any bad choice could lead in the death of many and his power alone can’t do everything given that they’re are way more lives at stake he’s not fighting people in open spaces or large fields he’s in a condense train station fighting 3 special grades one of them being volcanic and the other can mess with peoples souls yes I’m sure any. Other human wouldn’t be indecisive despite the fact let’s ask nanami or naobito. The 2 other adults who were also indecisive and had better opponents to fight and made many mistakes and died in the end not that they weren’t skilled but they also had their back to the wall sure naobito also had an ego but the point is just that raw power can’t solve everything gojo can’t just kill them on the spot as not only is that reckless but also heartless as he would end killing innocent people which he unironically saved many people by sending in the hospital due to being within the 0.2 domain expansion. Also killing innocent people is not a sign of mental strength/weakness it is however Duranged and doesn’t help anyone also to be fair jojo doesn’t know their precise location at that moment as they book not long before the 0.2 due him killing hanami so if he had done the sure hit or a hollow purple and turns out he missed all of them which would be likely given that their not in the scene afterwards til after the sealing of the prison realm he would have not only failed to kill all the curses and kenjaku but also would have killed many innocent lives for a very irrational move. Literally the only thing that went wrong is fake gets
You forgot to include plot convenience which explains everything you are asking about in this video. Gege wanted Gojo out to progress story, so he purposefully made Gojo do stupid decisions otherwise he would never be caught in prison realm. But I get it that such explanation doesn't give you room for video like that lol
You seem to be missing something. They had Domain Amplification this time around to counter his Infinity/cursed energy. I doubt he would’ve gone out of his way to focus on Hanami if he could’ve dispatched them that easily. Otherwise, I more or less agree with you on the ethical dilemma the show forces on Gojo. His inaction and hesitation has already cost more lives than he would’ve potentially saved had he gone scorched earth. You don’t negotiate with literal curses who view humanity as fodder. It would’ve been actually quite understandable from his perspective if the curses themselves avoided killing humans and only used them as shields. After all, what use does a hostage serve if it’s already dead? Him holding back would then make a lot more sense if even the opposition is minimizing casualties during the crossfire.
Yes, but what about Purple? In the beginning they were all grouped up with no people around. If he fired it immediately, maybe he would have gotten them? or at least one? Why wait this time, if you used it on Hanami almost immediately during the school event?
@@mahistv purple would kill all the people in the train station later in the manga it's revealed that no human in the b5 basement died where gojo used his domain he ce presence was enough for curses to avoid that area completely
@@mahistv Welp, you pretty much nailed it in this video. His arrogance and overconfidence are ultimately what doomed him. Though given the ungodly power at his fingertips, it makes sense for his character to have such a major flaw. He seems to have mellowed out a bit after his run in with Toju, but his arrogance was still retained sadly.
There's a character in a story I read. He's hailed as a hero, even though he doesn't regard himself as one. It's because he always aims for the most number of lives saved, and not the individual life. Unless that person is someone he knows. Killing a city of zombies, even if there are survivors. Because the remaining 4 billion (in that story) of humanity will survive. He doesn't call himself a hero because he doesn't uphold the same ideals, neither does he beat himself up for the dilemma...
Anime only here but this is my thought: if I remember correctly during hidden inventory gojo goes through a change of not putting value on human life and it’s only because of geto that he doesn’t just kill everyone. Gojo essentially got chained by an idea of “we can’t kill innocents” and so single mindedly focuses on that even if it screws him. Hence why they were so confident he’d never use a technique that’d cause casualties and why it was such a shock when he popped his domain. I could be wrong though.
It was Gojo's fault because it was Geto's It was Geto's fault because it was Toji's It was Toji's fault because it was the Zenin clan's JJK would've been much nicer if the Zenin clan wasn't such a piece of shit
7:13 The reason Gojo goes after the transfigured humans first is because he knows he can confidently 1 shot all of them without waking them up. Gojo A. Doesn’t know how long the special grades will be asleep for and B. Doesn’t know for certain he can 1 shot them all before waking them up (he’s never seen choso before and doesn’t truly know Mahito’s durability). This is on top of the fact casting a domain expansion burns out your CT meaning Gojo can’t use limitless to defeat any of the curses in the area. There’s no way Gojo with just raw cursed energy inforcement could 1 shot Jogo, choso and Mahito while avoiding contact with any of the transfigured humans since just touching 1 may awaken it. In short Kenjaku’s plan was so curated to Gojo’s ability and personality that even Gojo’s best move wouldn’t be enough to avoid Gojo getting sealed
Speed is just weird in this show and I don't understand why the jujutsu high didn't blame the gojo clan since satoru is the one who stopped Yuji's execution
Thing is….if sorcerer had a ‘call Gojo’ policy when encountering a special grade this whole dilemma could’ve been solved. Remember Nanami and Yuji encountered Mahito TWICE and that whole time Gojo could’ve popped up if they notified him. Mahito would be dead and transfigured humans no longer a factor.
Exactly. The only reason that's not a thing from the plot's perspective is that the elders are not letting it happened. Why did Gojo himself not give his friends a panic button? I don't know
I don't think he could use hollow purple after activating his domain since after you activate a domain, you can't use your cursed techniques right after, for a period of time. This law applies to everyone in the series. now whether he could regain his CT before they woke up is a question to think about.
The utilitarian argument for saving human lives at the cost of other lives is always "these lives DON'T matter because these other lives DO matter" which makes no sense. Could Gojo have fought WAY better in Shibuya and possibly avoided all the subsequent problems? Absolutely. Was he mentally capable of doing that? Arguably not, but theoretically yes. Does not fighting at maximum efficiency and power make him in any way responsible for Shibuya? That's a huge stretch. At some point, you're that one sorcerer at school who asks why they don't just give all the missions to Gojo now that he's discovered ultra instinct.
That's not what I said, it's not "these VS other", "it's few VS many". Also, Gojo absolutely could have sacrificed people as he was talking about killing "innocent" followers of Star Plasma sect and he proposed to kill the higher ups. After he had to kill his best friend, I don't think he'd be incapable of killing random people he has no attachment to, in order to save more people.
There is a pretty big problem with your reasoning here. Gojo can’t go all out here because of the civilians so that means he can’t use destructive techniques like red, blue, or purple. That was established earlier in the season when he could’ve killed geto but chose not to do so due to his own conflicted feelings and the fact that they were in a populated area. It’s also kind of in Gojo’s character to be REALLY arrogant so the fact that he’s limited to using his hands and hands only isn’t bad or pressing to him. However, he does have to deal with the problem of lowering infinity to actually touch them and by this point in the series he can still be harmed by jogo and Hanami even with his RCT regen, so a degree of caution is warranted. Gojo also isn’t aware of the full extent of the curses plans by this point. To him it was just three curses stupid enough to bother him for a third time and he would eliminate them as carefully as possible to prevent any lucky shots or falling into a possible trap by lowering infinity. He only goes all out with domain expansion when he realizes the full scale of the assault as mahito arrives, and his priority is to eliminate all of the low level curses allowing him to fully focus on the four main ones who should still be frizzed after his domain, although they could obviously have a precaution to protect themselves so treading carefully is warranted ( he was right here considering kenjaku and Dagon were right around the corner). By this point Gojo also isn’t as strong as the one that fights 20f Sukuna later in the series, because of his training in the prison realm. He’s closer to 15f Sukuna than to 20f Sukuna by this point, so the gap isn’t that large especially after we see how maki and yuji could fight 15f Sukuna later in the series when both were around jogo’s level. If there’s multiple really strong guys in fight against you it gets a lot harder to fight all of them and going full on hypersonic to kill them is still a massive risk due to the civilians and the risk to himself in lowering infinity to land a hit. Overall the situation is really complicated for him since he’s not really allowed to take any large scale action to eliminate them all at once, or even speed blitz one of them. The only times we saw him do that were when he blitzed hanami and used his domain when things got testy, and both times he made sure to limit damage to any civilians present. Was it a little convenient that he didn’t at least try to kill jogo ina blitz? Yes. Can the same be said for Choso or Mahito? Yes. But in both cases he understood that there was an attack waiting for him the second he dropped infinity to attack. He had to pick his punches carefully or risk losing his arms or killing the people around him directly.
Wait, have you finished my video? This is exactly the point - he should have ignored civilians and just did his job, BECAUSE of what happened to Geto. He hesitated then and we got the night of a 100 demons. He was too confident and got his ass handed by Toji. He also let 2 special grade curses escape, which resulted a bunch of deaths. At this point in the story, only dumb person won't realize that this is a very dangerous group, and their destruction should be the priority over a few hundred or even thousand lives.
@@mahistv well that’s the problem, he can’t. Jogo even says during the episode that gojo was “willing to accept casualties caused by curses but not one’s caused by satoru Gojo”. That was the crux of the plan for them and it almost worked. Gojo doesn’t want to kill or harm innocent people because at that point he’s practically no better than Geto or toji, plus the circumstances of the fight were themselves difficult. His domain expansion was his all out moment, but as stated previously gojo just didn’t want to, or literally can’t kill people. He’s still bound by some sort of code for sorcerers and I doubt that allows for killing some to save others.
@@motivationallizard6644that and jujutsu society will likely reprimand him if they found out about his collateral damage. I think it’s more than morality because Gojo is absolutely capable of killing people to save more in the long run. But if his goal is to reform jujutsu society, he literally cannot step out of line by intentionally killing innocents.
actually, the reason they didn't kill all for one is because had some sort of ties with other nations, and killing him would cause more fallout than they were ready for.
Agreed, if Gojo was doing everything perfectly, no story would have been needed. As for cooldown, Mahito got his ability back within seconds and Gojo had at least 5 minutes of time
Special grade Curses knew domain amplification, which means they could've learned something like simple domain. And purple is way too destructive to use on curses. And satoru is fast cause of his ct, his ct allows him to teleport and he uses blue on his punches, means people will become unwanted casualties. This video is heavily misinformed, and if not for the prison seal, satoru literally won.
The main issue with him trying to take on the special grades is that his technique isn’t the best for killing curses, especially in crowded areas. He wouldn’t be able to deal enough damage in one hit to kill the special grades without killing people nearby, that’s just not how his powers work. He can just rip the human’s heads off to kill them, but cursed spirits don’t actually need their heads to be connected to their bodies(see jogo). That’s why he’s taking it so carefully, he literally kills one cursed spirit with his “barrier” because if he used blue or red he’d destroy the infrastructure and kill hundreds. He also knows that there are more enemies waiting, and they keep coming in waves. He hasn’t seen mahito, who could kill him instantly if he got off his domain expansion. Similarly, Jogo could try his domain expansion at any point and kill everyone nearby. He also knows there are likely several curse users nearby that are erecting the barriers, and while Chozo isn’t near his level he’s trying to keep his eyes open for a trap with a subversive cursed technique. He was basically trying to be ready for anything, and using the humans as his own hostages(because if the cursed spirits killed them all, they would certainly die from him being able to go all out) Lastly, this was a specially designed attack aimed to pry on Gojo’s pride, but it was also meant to make him constantly be overthinking everything. We know when the train pulls up that mahito has set it up with transfigured humans, but Gojo doesn’t find out until the doors open and he has to react within a second. He’s constantly being forced to make split-second decisions and try to weigh human lives versus the potential number of people that could be saved. The thing is though, Gojo wouldn’t actually kill any of them. He’s a notorious softy, and half of his friends AND enemies are people he couldn’t bear to kill. Geto knows that he’s not trying to save the largest number of people, he’s trying to save everyone because he wouldn’t kill a single one of them. In the end, that’s why he chose to kill all of the transfigured humans instead of the special grades: they were the most immediate threat to the human lives.
6:24 Gojo is just as fast as sukuna, but not in the same way Cursed energy reinforcement leaks outside a sorcerers body when they use it Gojo enhances his speed by applying his cursed technique making him even wxtra faster But this has the effect of leaking into normal humans The narrator explains that if Gojo employs his speed, non sorcers would feel like they are being missed by a truck moving at high speed, the whiplash would be insane That's why gojo was extremely exhausted after his domain because at that point He was efficiently restricting his cursed energy from leaking out his body while maximizing the reinforcement and enhancement available to him All while navigating an enclosed space filled with a crowd of a couple 100 people who he was trying to protect
@@mahistv actually Gojo tried to warm jujutsu society that something like Shibuya would happen. That's another reason why he was trying to raise real dogs 🐕 like Yuta, Megumi, and Yuji. Gojo was trying to warn that sorcerers need to get stronger/change and that he can't do it alone.
He didn’t properly bury geto cuz of his connection which let kenjaku take over his body but if kenjaku didn’t have the chance to take over geto then the special grades prob wouldn’t team up (forgot about 3:00
Even if gojo just said screw it and didn't care about immediate casualties for the greater good. The jujutsu higher ups would absolutely use it as an excuse to persecute him.
Well u could easily argue with, how would they know gojo did it. Plus the higher ups already hated him and wouldn't even think of persecuting him because well, he can kill them, all of them, quite easily.
I am seeing a lot of people misinterpreting gojo character and Shibuya incident so let me make few things clear 1. Kenny had geto memories so he knew what was the best way to seal gojo and he just used the disaster curses and other humans to increase his brain stress to activate the prison realm 2. Even if prison realm failed Kenny had already planned to kill gojo using a 14f sukuna and yes Kenny had those fingers which he gave to jogo after sealing and yeah spoilers. But 14f sukuna easily kills This gojo 3. Gojo couldn't use any big move red blue or purple or else the entire train station would collapse and everyone would die 4. This was to show their overrealince on gojo the moment he is gone they are fucked and the higher ups which are being manipulates by Kenny are at fault he they went to damage control the moment Shibuya ended 4. Being confident in jjk world is very essential best ex jogo and Megumi and so gojo isn't overconfident he is just gojo winning even if he dies and he will protect civilians 5. The civilians gojo was trying to protect all survive so he king of succeeds 6. Gojo charecter is all about just having absolute power doesn't change shit he cannot protect everything everyone that why he wanted to raise a new gen that can help him fix the jjk world watch both the seasons carefully 6. Pay more attention to jjk power system its logical so if you are used to bullshit and plot armour you won't get it just watch s1 and 2 carefully or read the vid or watch any vid explaining the jjk power system 7. Jjk universe is based on negative energy the power system itself rewards things like selfish and concept of curses exist and jjk sorcerers are literally insane so if you are trying to do something good it's almost impossible in jjk verse . If you can't wait just read the manga
1. Agreed, that's why I'm saying Gojo is at fault for getting his priorities mixed up, after seeing how dangerous these curses were up to this point. 2. I don't think Kenny wopuld have been able to feed them to Yuji, because Gojo would have prevented it and Yuji himself wound have been at 100%, sinse there was no fight with Choso. 3. That's my point, he should have ignored these people. 4. Yes, that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. 4. That's my point, overconfidence is his fault. 5. Great, we saved a few hundred but condemned the entirety of Japan... 6. Yes, that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. 6. This means nothing. 7. Again, this has nothing to do with how Gojo should have acted.
"14 f killing this gojo" what are you talking about ? Gojo didn't become significantly stronger in the serie . At any moment Sukuna can only kill him when he has his full power
I really like this video and your content and I would like to highlight one point we all glanced over we all got used to gojo being referred to as the strongest that we forget that he is also a human so my question is did he fail because he didn't do it or he didn't want to do it ?
Thank you! I agree that he is a human who can make mistakes, and thats exactly my point - he made so many before, that given his position as the strongest (literally maintaining the balance in this world, he should act way more decisively, disregarding his own feelings. Kinda like Avatar Yang-chen
No. His body was reduces to chunks and a puddle (his body is still there, just in a different configuration). When Gojo uses Hollow, it like multiplying by zero, nothing is left. You can't restore nothing.
Gojo speed is the only thing that you get wrong. Teleportation is an amplification of blue which can drag affect civilian especially when Gojo have to choose where to teleport in the mixed of chaos and people. His flash like speed work because the human are frozen. It like zooming on a car if there nothing moving on the road it much easier to navigate compare to a street with constant movement. If he run recklessly he will A Train civillian. It like kusekabe said. Special grade to normal human is like elephat tapdance on ants. Gojo is an elephant with a bunch of nuked strap onto it any move he can use can directly killed more people than the curses
Why? it affects a straight line and its radius is not that big. Float over, cast it downwards and boom, no-one is hurt. But again, the point of the video - he tried to protect people and that's why he failed. He shouldn't have care about collateral in this case.
@@mahistv bud i think you don't know jjk power system bule or purple would instantly kill all the people there limitless isn't normal technique Kenny specifically chose that area for a reason for your info even sukuna would get crushed instantly along with the entire building if he used blue or red which is twice as strong as blue and don't ask purple just see s1 clip how big area the purple destroyed
@@mahistv gojo gameplan most likely -use DE if something bad happend -once DE activated kill all transfigured human first since once all transfigured die the special curse will awake and still try to attack ( bringing less ppl die ) if he kills the special grade curse first more ppl will die since the transfigured human some still alive and awake ) the unexpected thing is kenjaku appear completely freeze him
@@mahistvred has a large radius it's literally a shockwave 😅 and blue sucks everything around it and don't forget human have no resistance hence they immediately die
Love the videos man. I agree with some of the things you said but some others just dont make sense. The first point was about gojos powergap between the rest of the the curses there. The curses are much weaker than him but you do have to realise that gojo basically couldnt use his technique even before his domain expansion. Every single move that gojo uses has a giant area of effect. To the point that he always fights alone becouse even his sorcerer allies always get hurt by his own moves. And after his domain expansion, his technique was on cooldown. Mahito in season 1 was a different case, as he is 1.a curse, who has a completly different anatomy compared to humans (including their brain wich is the most important part) and 2. Manhitos domain got broken midway through by yuji. Now about gojo targetting the transfigured humans first. Things would have gotten a bit tricky if he started with the curses. Choso stayed hidden throughout the crowd for the entire fight, so gojo would have had to run through the entire station just to find him. Not to mention, choso looks relatively human, so thers a good chance that he would miss him while speeding through the crowd. But yeah if he did find him, then choso would be done for. Jogo would be the least tricky but he would still wake up before gojo kills him wich might couse some problems. The biggest priblem here is mahito. Becouse if he takes mahitos head off, he will just have 2 mahitos to deal with. Thers also a chance that if mahito wakes up, the transfigured humans do as well. Becouse he is the one controlling them. You also have to remembee that there are a THOUSAND transfigured humans. Thats a whole armada. Do you know just how many problems that could cost if gojo DIDNT deal with them quickly? Another thing you have to consider is that gojo has VERY little time to think about all this, and while he thinks, he constantly watches peaple die around him.
Thank you dude, it's totally normal to disagree. 1. That's my point - he shouldn't have prioritized saving people, because that only causes more and more deaths. 2. Don't forget that he has "Very good eyes" He doesn't need to look too hard for Choso. Also, if he was able to spend 5 minutes killing transfigured humans, he should have had time to look around. 3. The amount of transfigured humans doesn't matter when they are not waking up in the near future. They are WEAK and should have been greatly affected by 0.2 Domain Expansion. 4. Gojo was NEVER shown to act hastily and before the DE, he was casually walking around "chasing" Jogo. But then, all of a sudden, after he disabled everyone on the platform, he decides to NOT think even for a second and goes on a useless rampage. I don't buy that.
@@mahistv cool man. It's nice to have little discussions like this. 1. Him prioritizing the lives of civilians would be a charecter flaw. Not a writing flaw. 2. Yes he has good eyes. However, every single human has cursed energy. And chosos appearance is relatively normal considering its halloween. Hed have to spend some time to find to him and then as I said, the biggest problem is mahito. If mahito wakes up, there's a good chance that the transfigured humans will as well as they are all under his controll. 3.the reason why gojo was so calm when chasing jogo was that at that mahito hadn't arrived yet and things were relatively in control. Once mahito arrived, A LOT MORE peaple started dying, wich made gojo panic. It was the exact thing "geto" was hoping for. Obviously gojo is normally very calm and not quick to act but that's becouse usually there isnt a mastermind villian with the memories of your best friend that makes a foolproof plan to beat you.
I know from a narrative perspective, Yuji vs Mahito was built up to their final exchange in Shibuya, but in reality, Gojo should have prioritized killing Mahito on site. If you really understood how the story was for telling how insane his growth was, Mahito was on track to being the cursed spirit version of Sukuna. If Gojo had killed Mahito before being sealed, Kenjaku's culling games goes out the window and it would have set Kenny's plans back.
On top of that, Gojo knew all about Mahito and how dangerous he can be. If he called the cloning guy "surprisingly weak" because his ability is supposed to be strong, he should know that "soul manipulation" is at least as scary as "curse spirit manipulation", which is a special grade level power
@@mahistv Agreed. I don't know if it was intentional writing, but if you can be objective and look past Gojo's cool factor, he's actually a pretty sloppy guy in terms of leadership 🤣 his fans won't hear any shade thrown at their great king, but if you start asking questions like "If Gojo was this powerful at this point or that point in the story, why didn't he just..." You can see a lot of errors in his planning and actions. Man's got a good heart, so it's his redeeming factor, but holy ****** if he doesn't fumble throughout this series. Habitually. He's a habitual fumbler 😂
They are a low-grade curses, if it was enough to stall Special Grades (which was Gojo's intention) it would definitely have more impact on weaker curses.
While superman could stop a plane. The problem is that the plane would just go right through him due to how fast its going. even if he tries to slow it down it wouldn't be enough to stop the momentum and again the plane would just get destroyed at the area he held and would fly through him. This is mainly because if we are going off of how strong superman is, I think he would just accidentally use too much strength
Well... we saw it in a movie already, so kinda counts. Plus, look up how tennis players can catch a tennis ball with just their racket by matching it's velocity and slowing it down, without it bouncing off. Same principle will apply. Not saying people will survive completely intact, but it's way better than slamming into earth at freefalling speed.
“You got so used to being the best, that you got delusional thinking you can save everyone at any time”. Geto was right about Gojo's arrogance...
May be Gojo is delu delu
The reason he did not destroy the special grade curses was because his curse technique was on cool down. Otherwise, things would have ended up as you said
@@justinfox1432 This is gojo were talking about I rest my case
@@justinfox1432gojo has shown he can use domain expansion 5 times in a short period of time and could have just used his 0.2 second domain expansion for a couple seconds longer.
Delu delu is strong with this ones naievete and overconfidence gojo really fumbled a 5 star express lmao
To me the bigger issue isn't that Gojo is guilty of the Shibuya Incident as no one could've predicted that he would be put out of commission at the start of the incident. The bigger issue is the whole corruption of Jujutsu society, who instead of doing everything in their power to minimize the damage that Geto/Kenjaku was doing they instead focused on hunting down Gojo's allies and reducing the Gojo family's influence.
Yeah, don't even get me started on that... Shit is Demon Slayer level short sighted
@@mahistvTo be fair to Jujutsu society, Gojo is the biggest threat to their power and influence and he threatens to unalive them on the daily
@@scrubnub6203 because they are horrible and evil people. I want to spoil but i cant
@@scrubnub6203 'To be fair to Jujutsu society...' Wooooow.
@@ArilliusDM gives me the vibes of "I'm not racist... BUT-" so much
Satoru's good morality is what is used by the big bads to trap him. He could not Hollow Purple Suguru at the KFC as a lot of people were there. This was also Kenjaku's plan and it worked. Once Satoru held back to save ppl at the station with his 0.2s DE and yes in the manga it was mentioned they all went back to their life. But yea Satoru did fuck around and ruin some shit like not destroying Suguru's body in JJK0
how tf did they live though? Like actually! didn’t the whole place turn to ash or whatever
@@doodlegame8704 Nah that platform was safe as we see Aoi and Arata arrive there. Mahito was beefin in another platform
@@BRUH-ne2zf Still though, Im shocked Mahito didnt just snag all the humans there after Gojo got sealed.
@@doodlegame8704 true
"He could not Hollow Purple Suguru at the KFC as a lot of people were there". EXACTLY!
He hesitated then and how many people got killed by Geto's shenanigan's until last year's events? Not to mention a part of the city destroyed and some of Jujutsu School too during the Night of a Hundred Demons.
After that, he should have gone into a no nonsense mode and kill every big threat he comes across. He already committed a terrible crime - killing a best friend, who's decent into misery he failed to see and prevent. So there is no way that he wouldn't do all out, after letting Jogo and Hanami escape from him before.
I really think Gojo's performance and the disadvantages he submited himself to where an ego thing. I'm not saying he didnt take the situation seriously or was dumb, but he was unwilling to admit the fact that the enemy drove him into a corner, he was just that overconfident in his abilities, even if the tought of wanting to save people is a selfless one. He would rather make a gamble on creating a highly exausting maneuver with his 0.2 domain flex to end all transfigured humans instead of the curses because to the very end, he believed he could just batman walk towards them and kill them all, eventually. His aproach was basically "Oh you did _this and that?_ I can do something better, what will you do now?" He effed arround and found out
I totally agree! It was very weird when Gojo basically explained his technique to Jogo in their first encounter. I realize that in JJK world explaining your technique makes it stronger, but if Gojo is already too strong, did he really need to do that? Moreover, sometimes the drawbacks of explaining the technique outweighs the benefits (in this case, the curses gained experience and learned to form a plan around Gojo's abilities). I like how in comparison Todo got an edge over many curses by being smart with hiding details of his technique. Gojo's ego probably got him thinking "so what, this weak curse couldn't win he learned about my technique". His ego is his worst enemy...
He said it himself, he Will always swing for the fences: in this partícular case he was caught slipping while trying to Flex
@@az0075im not dure if that wouldve mattered, if gojo didnt tell them then fake geto probably wouldve told them about gojos ct before shibuya
@@CrunchyLeaf10also limitless is a well known technique
Retarded take. Gojo did all of that because Gege wanted him out of the story so he had to make stupid mistakes and use 1/10 of his power to achieve that goal.
yes, my biggest gripe and plot hole is gojo going after trans humans instead of exorcising the 4 big special grades right in front of him.
And bro claims to be an MMO grinder... he should know when to prioritize adds or not during a bossfight
Fr, like what was he thinking 😭
He said that he wasnt sure if 0.2 seconds was going to keep them unconscious long enough since they are special grade. Would've been a waste if they just regained their senses. Would've been back to square 1 and had to cast another domain and give people more brain damage
Also the transfirgured humans would've been stun locked longer cause for one their grade 2 at best and have a way worse understanding of ce than the spirits and their curse spirits not humans so they'd prob recover fast anyways their brains are not like humans exactly he def fumbled with that
@@enma8441it was still strong enough to keep them unconscious for 300 seconds or 5 minutes in normal time long enough for him to kill them and they were still stunlocked during kenny little monolog spill he'd be able to easily dismantle jogo and hanami if she were there and find dagon hiding if he since irregular ce levels kenny probably would've dipped before it hit and waited for him to finish so he's off the table and choso he'd just knock out since he had no interest in killing him prob wanted to question him idk and he'd still have like 230 sec or some time to deal with mahito and kill or leave all the transfiguration humans to see if shoko or some scientists can figure out a way to reverse the soul damage or keep mahito alive to ask how the soul works and how repair it or force him to reverse them maybe a binding vow letting sukuna out and no killing yuji and he'll let him go for now until he sees him again or something but that depends on his moral companies but ye it always feels like gege does not use his abilities to the upper limits and apart of that might have to do with his hatred for his complicated mathematical abilities and how strong and broken he is
If “the story has to happen” was a person, it would be Gojo
Pretty much
also, literally everyone in this show, besides maybe yuji, is an absolute psychopath. not only can gojo not afford to not throw the switch in this trolley problem situation, i have a hard time believing that he would be the kind of person to be concerned about that. trying so hard to avoid killing people directly at the cost of even more lives is just out of character for him.
Agreed. He even said, it's a good day when someone dies a normal death in Jujutsu world, so he would definitely mercy kill.
I think the reason he does that is also partly because of the higher ups. If he were directly responsible for people’s deaths through collateral damage, it might bring his plan to change jujutsu society in jeopardy.
Crazy how many people would've (probably) survived if gojo just killed the disaster curses right on the spot
Exactly. Also, if he used a Domain Expansion right off rip, very few people would have been caught up in it, because Curses were grouped up.
If only he remembered hollow purple and math where a thing.
Dude... HOW DID YOU WATCH MY VIDEO ALREADY? Those are my main points! lol
@@mahistv no it's just what I would do if I was gojo. Literally the first thing I thought was. "If I was Gojo the net loss of life in the anime would be lower if I just blue orb these 4 dudes or just blast em with purple. Since if something happens to me or the other chars (even if it's not death) way more people would die then I would kill." Which I predicted accurately happened.
Purple would cause unnecessary casualties no? It can be evaded, and it can't be stopped. Same with blue. It pulls things including people towards it. If anything, maybe red, a bit destructive but it could work.
im pretty sure he couldnt make a .1 mm hollow purple
@@pablogr6960i am pretty sure he could just glue them with blue and to kill off mahito he could just add red to tht blue so he wouldnt need a 0.1mm purple
Plot armor had to work overtime for the baddies for gojo to be sealed. Author created a character with a op ability and couldn’t come up with a way for the plot to progress without breaking logic
Agreed, reminds me of a certain "She of the Beginning" who had to be sealed
Gawk gawk gawk gawk
@@mahistv What or who are you referring to out of curiosity?
More blame should be put on the other special grades for hanging out when fodder were dying
Agreed. What did "what's your type do"? Show up at the end, flashed her ass and said some moderately intelligent things... not impressesive
😂😂@@mahistv
@@mahistv She was fan service, Good enough IG.
Thanks Mahis. When I was watching this season I felt something was off but couldn't put my finger on it. I'm glad to see this point being addressed clearly. I have a humble theory that Gojo's behavior (summarized in the quote about him getting used to being the best) got worse after Geto switched sides. The very few times we've seen Gojo getting angry or emotional to the point where he breaks his "carefree" façade were related to Geto. I theorize that his "failure" with Geto hit him not just on a career level as a sorcerer but also on a personal level. This sudden reality check or trauma (leading to PTSD?) exacerbated his over-inflated ego in order to cope; he now has to act like the best 24/7 to feel that he is in control. It's like when someone doesn't put his 100% in a game or challenge so that when they lose they can subconsciously justify to themselves "meh, I am still a winner, I just chose to lose cuz it's such a drag, I could have been serious and won at anytime". Also, "the normies who criticize my decisions don't understand, they're just weak". I agree that all the JJK sorcerers are psychopaths - a job hazard (sadly, our boy Yuji might be becoming one) and some use humor or goofiness to cope with the atrocities they have to witness or do. The worse the situation, the goofier some become to cope. I believe for Gojo this is also exacerbated after Geto's problem. The goofiness and inflated ego as coping mechanisms shields him from processing emotions. Compare that to Yuji and Nanami, amongst other characters, who self-reflect and process their weaknesses or limitations head-on. This makes me believe that while Gojo is strong as a sorcerer, he might be weak emotionally and mentally as opposed to some other JJK characters, which leads to his "dumb decisions" that we see. I'm excited to see what happens next in terms of story and character development!
Thank YOU for watching. Funny you say that, I didn't really like how this video was shaping up, because I felt I wasn't making myself clear. Still, this is a very interesting idea you bring up!
imagine there a jjk story game that allowed mcs to do what they did not done in the actual manga
for example, an option to go all out during shibuya incident as gojo
that would make what should have actually happened instead of gege's favor towards the curses
@@AverageIRLenjoyersolos
"99% chance he will not use hes Domai-
*creates a full existing Infinity Void*
Didn't a JJK game just flop?
@@mahistv cus no story content yep
Well said, i expected gojo to one shot the disaster curses even while holding back . He's strong enough to knock a full power sukuna unconscious ,these guys should have been easy work.
100%. He fucked around and found out
Gojos base speed isnt as crazy as youd think. He uses his blue ability to pull himself places and thats what makes him so fast. However that would also suck in people and murder them so he refrained from using it
Fair point, maybe he is not as fast while pure running
Also, Gojo specifically didnt destroy Getos body to honor him… others wanted him to just destriy getos bod, if Geto was cremated, Kenny wouldnt get his body
I know that, that's why I never criticized that part
To be fair, Jogo is only alive because of plot. When he first met Gojo, he could have EASILY been destroyed, but Gojo wanted to get information from him.
Yes, and that's when Gojo should have realized - "Next time, I better finish them off as fast as possible"
@@mahistv Next time…
Yeah…
I was spoiled from the internet 😅
it's gege's fault mf is obsessed with killing everyone thinking it make good plot that he is willing to make everyone act dumb in order to advance his idea of a "good plot"
Yeah, even now he bullshits his way into a "not happy ending", even retconning already established stuff. And honestly this could be a hot take, but I think JJK's ending is gonna suck ass. Because Gege has bullshited his way into the ending he envisions too much that any ending he comes up with will be terrible
@@GreekShinobi223 fr
Gotta hand it too him.. this mafucka is not afraid too kill off characters... there is not a character in this seris that is safe
We can't say that confidently yet, but I concur - when characters die for the sake of dying, that can be bad writing
Boring take, you can count on one hand the amount if core characters that have died, feel like this is always over exaggerated.
Gojo couldn’t use his CT after the Domain, so it wasn’t possible for him to use blue or purple to the downed cursed spirits. Maybe he could have healed his CT like he did with Sukuna but even then, that still took some time and that’s IF he was even capable of doing it - Yuta didn’t even think healing a CT was possible until Gojo did it, so it’s possible that it was a case of Gojo just trying something he’s never done before.
He’s not massively more manoeuvrable in the fight because his his massive speed advantage comes from him using blue, which is why Kenny refers to him as a wrecking ball for non-sorcerers, hence they flooded the location with people so he wouldn’t use it.
After using his Domain, Gojo has no idea how long Transfigured humans will remain unconscious-he’s never fought one before and they already have their brains tampered with so the effectiveness of IV isn’t something he can just intuitively know with them. This alongside the fact that the special grades could have woken up at any time, I think Gojo made the reasonable decision to not just get put back into the same situation pre-domain/potentially worse without a CT.
“Humans killed by Gojo vs Humans killed by Curses” IS a meaningful difference, it’s delusional to think it’s not. A Gojo who preemptively sacrifices humans to save more is not the Gojo we have nor is it the Gojo we’d want because that’s a fuckin hell-scape of a world to live in.
There are definitely things Gojo COULD have done, like killing Choso immediately since he couldn’t use domain amplification (so his only role was to apply pressure by killing humans) or destroying the train the moment he heard it coming, which would kill the Transfigured Humans all in one shot and could have potentially killed Mahito.
But I don’t think it’s fair to blame Gojo or anyone for not making all the right decisions when preventing others from doing something terrible, you can literally run back that timeline of blame endlessly, and cutting it off at Gojo’s arrival is totally arbitrary.
1. Why is he not about to use CT? Mahito recovered almost instantly and he only used his DE 3 times in his life.
2. Bullshit. If Aoi Todo know that they are 2nd Grade, Gojo should also know that, not to mention his 6 Eyes. As for Special Grades waking up at any time, it's all the more reason to focus on them, rather some low level curses.
3. Gojo literally killed his best friend before, in comparison to that, killing a few hundred random people to save thousands is nothing. Also, you seem to miss my point - Gojo failed so many times (resulting it a lot of dead people), that he should finally stop messing around.
4. Again, you contradict yourself saying “Humans killed by Gojo vs Humans killed by Curses” IS a meaningful difference, it’s delusional to think it’s not" and "Gojo COULD have done, like killing Choso immediately (whos job was to apply pressure by killing people". So by Gojo leaving Choso alive, he indirectly killed people who were killed by Choso.
I specifically said I won't go back to blame Gojo's past and the reason I blame him now, is because he didn't learn from his past.
@@mahistv 1. Mahito is a curse; not human so it may work differently for him fundamentally, but more importantly he’d just landed a black flash. Oh yeah AND we’ve already seen that in the fight against Sukuna, Gojo’s CT took way longer to recover than Mahito and that was with Gojo specifically using RCT to heal it not just waiting for it.
2. Todo knew they were roughly second based on reports, Gojo likely knew the same, but that’s completely irrelevant. He didn’t know how long it would take them to recover and he knows that they’ve had their brains tampered with so he doesn’t how long they’d be paralysed, especially considering he didn’t know the same thing for people, he just instinctively assumed they could only survive being in IV for 0.2 seconds. His 6 eyes are irrelevant here, as the special grades could have woken up at anytime I.e. his 6 didn’t tell him how long they’d be paralysed so it wouldn’t help him know how long anyone else would be paralysed.
Had he gone for the special grades without having a CT it’s even more likely they’d wake up, Jogo was able to move and respond immediately after IV in their first fight because Gojo touched him within IV after he was in there for way longer than 0.2 seconds so it’s entirely possible that without his CT, Gojo just assumed he couldn’t just one shot him without waking him first. Then Jogo runs using the humans as shields, wakes up the others and now Gojo is in the exact same situation again just without his CT and he doesn’t know if the transfigured humans may wake up.
3. Gojo killed Geto because he was the bad guy who needed to be stopped from doing what he was already doing, he wasn’t an innocent bystander; what even is that comparison? Sure, killing Geto would have been hard but it was the right thing to do morally for Gojo, it’s not even nearly approaching the same moral question of sacrificing innocents to save more.
4. No I didn’t contradict myself, if you want to say Gojo failed, sure I’d agree. However, there’s a difference between saying he failed and it’s his fault. I fundamentally reject the idea that Gojo “indirectly” killed anyone.
Jogo, Mahito, Hanami and Choso killed those people, not Gojo. Gojo made mistakes in the fight like the things I mentioned, and failed to stop them; but he is not morally accountable or to blame for their deaths, the blame lands squarely on the people who actually killed them. If you start holding people morally accountable for “indirectly” killing like that then there is no end to that blame game, past or present, Nanami, Naobito and Kusakabe indirectly killed all those people by not being on floor B5 to help in that moment because they decided Gojo was better off on his own. The “indirectly killing” idea is a ridiculous line of logic, especially when assigning blame morally, completely backwards morality.
5. You say you blame him for not learning from his past, what past? When in the past had a bunch of people died because Gojo was “messing around”? What was he supposed to learn this lesson from?
Gojo failed and because he failed, The Shibuya Incident happened.
That doesn’t mean The Shibuya Incident is Gojo’s fault.
@@akaneki7234 THANK YOU
@@akaneki7234 bro decided to spit absolute facts
@@mahistvthe burnout of ct after domain is totally arbitrary . It changes all the time . And Mahito has just more plot armor also the black flash can be a reason .
Basically, Sukuna and the others (Minus the disaster curses) have plot armor 😂😂😂😂
@@kwizeraanthony2401 You know I’m being sarcastic
Every joke is only partially a joke, so yeah)
Goofy
Shibuya never made sense expecialy later in the manga where we see how big the gap is between Gojo and the cast yuta alone can kill the special grades with no effort and Gojo is way faster
Somebody brought it up - "Math is not mathing" in JJK at times
yuta isnt beating jogoat or geto brain at this time. after he gets abilities from the literal strongest people through out history sure but without that I don't think so.
@@xavmanisdabestest nah he beats the shit out of the disaster curses all at the same time
Kenny has a chance at winning against him tho
It's not a matter of power, it's a matter of personality. Gojo could've easily stomped them, like damn near instantly but he started playing with them, to make them realize they fucked up, and when he started to take the battle seriously, they piled on more humans so Gojo couldn't go all out.
Plus, powerscaling holds little weight when trying to tell a story, if an author needs a character to lose, they will lose
@@rodneylane952 like it doesnt make sense because even if people are there it's in character for Gojo to blitz his apponents before they react like the multiple times he did against sukuna and Gojo in their first fight and Gojo is stronger than hanami and choso and choso is human curse hybrid so terring of his head dead and grabbing and teleporting the others one by one come on
well technically this can be prevented, if the 2 girls went to ask gojo instead of bringing sukuna, not only the fact that gojo will know that his best friend isnt actually his best friend, and the prison realm wont work because gojo will not lose focus for 1 minute. Kenjaku was just really lucky during shibuya.
I'm actually curious how they ended up following Kenny, instead of trying to reach to Gojo, who they knew was a friend of Geto and who they respected.
@@mahistv they hated gojo because he killed geto, which lead them to death
Had I used the 0.2s DE, I would have turned Jogo into sashimi before dealing with the transfigured humans lol
Though I think we are re-evaluating this scenario because we know how much worse things got because of how bad Shibuya was handled.
There is 100% SOME level of hindsight here, but as I've said - Gojo let both Jogo and Hanami escape from him, which resulted this mess. You must understand that these guys are dangerous, if they can run away from you, the strongest.
@@mahistv I agree- bringing Yuji just so he can see what a special grade curse is like was a bad move on so so many levels. If he was alone that night, he could have iced them both. The fiasco during the goodwill event too ...
Another counter claim would be that the easiest option is to sacrifice all of the civilians in the train station while trying to save as many of them is the hardest option and as the strongest he will attempt the impossible. That is how one becomes great, by challenging the impossible, taking the easy way out is what weak people do. Hope I don’t sound too dramatic
I get what you are saying, but given that Gojo messed up several times just in the recent year (was played by Geto and put Yuta in danger (and a lot more people by extension if Geto succeeded), let Jogo and Hanami escape, couldn't defend JJ School), this is not the time for "trying to bite more than you can chew"
@@mahistv gojo’s quite the tragic failure. Anyway I just wanted to bring up a different perspective
This is something I think the story makes evident, human nature will always cause brief moments of hesitation, where as a curse is chaos, that I think is part of why Gojo lost
I wish they put more emphasis on that, because an example of a hesitation - is Sebas who was told to kill Tsuare. This is more of a "trying to have your cake and eat it too", as he was trying to win and save everyone.
@@mahistv I think this made evident in the itadori/ mahito fight, it is in a curse’s nature to be chaotic where as a human is more empathetic, both are acting as they should, which leads to how they talk and fight
i mean his technique was burnt out after using domain expansion so he had to do everything using reinforcement alone so he couldn't use hollow purple or even just a normal blue to kill the special grade curses
Not true. The technique comes back in a bit, Mahito's did within seconds. Even then. Rip his damn head off! Choso will 100% die, Gojo will be severely injured and disabled, Mahito... lt will take more but yeah.
You forgetting that Gojo is the one who taught Sukuna how to heal CT burnout?
@@Exalter06 and you're forgetting that Gojo did that after being stuck in a hyperbolic time chamber
@@cakeman4527 did it say he learnt healing burnout in the time chamber? Must have forgotten, by any chances do you know which chapter that is?
@@mahistvmahito replenished his ct by landing a black flash on todo
This is my equivalent to ace dying😭 like you just had to fight the admiral
Hmmm, I see the similarities
The problem is that Theoretically, Gojo has A LOT of raw, destructive power behind him.
But Practically, he can't use it to destroy THAT many people with no consequences. Even from a Utilitarian Standpoint.
Curses and Cursed Energy are borne from human emotions, specifically negative emotions like Fear, Anger, and Despair and death releases a LOT of Cursed Energy.
It's the same reason why Geto's plan to eliminate all non sorcerers was stupid, Killing THAT many people at once would give birth to a Large cursed spirit that might be even stronger than anything else in the verse as it's power would be increased proportional to the numbers of people who die fearing Satoru Gojo.
I see the dilemma he was stuck with here but the worst part is he didn't even have to kill all of the disaster curses if he just prioritized killing Mahito OR ripping off Jogo head and blowing it up via Red or Blue the story stops 🤣
Agreed, he acted way too rash and paid for it
The thing that bugs me about Gojo's character is how he his "Six-Eyes" can't show him how short-sighted he is. The first time I saw him let Jogo get away before his eyes due to carelessness, I thought he'd think "wow I really messed up, people are counting on me so I can't let it happen again". But no. He has no self-awareness. Once again he lets Hanami and the others get away, a second time. The got more and more powerful each time. People lost their lives in the story and he just cannot *ever stop gassing himself up* . I never thought he was cool, just really arrogant. And as you said, Shibuya was the last nail in the coffin, he never learned his lesson. He should have killed the disaster curses.
when did he ever let them get away? When he first met jogo he couldnt kill him cuz he needed answers to his questions then the plants technique made him weaken his guard which he immediately snapped out of. Then he couldnt go after the curses cuz yuji was about to get cooked. When he sees hanami again the the literal first thing he does to him is fire his strongest technique then her dug and escaped.
I mean, he’s the strongest. I think that comes with territory, because as far as he’s seen, he’s not in any danger from low-level special grades so long as he can use his cursed energy, which is nearly infinite due to the power of his six-eyes. I think it makes sense for him to be so arrogant, although I understand why that may make him unlikeable.
@@coreythepeanut You cant even say he's arrogant tbh the definition is "having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities." My guy is so op the curses were strengthened to counter him. Most plans the villains make revolve around making it so he cant help the main cast.
@@pixelspixelation6418 half of the plot happened becuse hes too arrogant
@@Boredomisverybadguys notice how you couldnt present an actual argument
It's quite unfortunate that there are no people that could predict the future in the JJK world cause an oracle would fit perfectly in this universe
That'd be interesting. Imagine an Sorcerer of old finding out about Kenjaku's plan and be like - "Oh, I wanna see what the future Golden Age of Jujutsu will be like" and accept his deal just because they live during a boring period.
Mahis i agree with you completely. Good job 👍🏽. Maybe this will be expanded upon the in upcoming seasons.Also the only counter to your argument i have is Gojo is human. He is not a god or angel. He can make mistakes. Maybe all the chaos made him panic and so he was not able to make the right choices. Gojo had to be careful while killing the corrupted humans so normal humans don't get hurt.
I agree with the "human" part, and that's exactly why I say "he should understand his position" as the strongest, because way too much depends on him. He made too many mistakes and hasn't learned enough from them. "Such arrogance" (c) Cinder Fall
INNOCENT CIVILIANS!! If you read the manga, that is what he was trying to do but there were innocent civilians so he was unable to without killing the civilians.
That's the whole point of the video - he should have ignored them for the greater good.
Lowkey I think this video falls into the trap of "Why didn't the character do the exact perfect thing needed for this narrative situation? Are they stupid?"
>Gojo was being mentally pushed by all of the options against him. The curses, the causulties, and the newly added threats
>The .2 domain expansion was a way to lockdown everyone; transfigured humans included
>Jogo says that Gojo is fine with civillians dying, but not by HIS hand. He will not actively endanger them. Going after the curses and leaving the transfigured humans would make him copable. That's against his mindset
Saying he should just say "Screw it" and pop the domain misses the entire point of that.
>If Gojo was that kind of person, Kenjaku wouldn't have a body to puppet. (the greater good)
>If Gojo was that type of person, he wouldn't have hid the last finger to dodge Yuji's execution. (the greater good)
>If Gojo was that type of person, the entire shibuya incident wouldn't have happened (as it's an obvious trap, so just let the civillians die and avoid it)
>if Gojo was that type of person, he would've jsut turn 1 popped his domain expansion and murked everyone there.
But he is not. That's the whole point.
Attacking the curses isn't a smart move either. Ignoring the fact that they could've woke up at any moment, Gojo does not have his cursed technique to defend himself or do hax (as a result, he cannot just hover above them and boom them with a hollow purple)
He doesn't know the brain trick at this point, so even HE is not immune to domain expansion burnout
And to reiterate let's go over the canidates here:
>Jogo: A curse who could easily one shot him if woken up
>Choso: An anomaly but considering that Jogo is a glasscannon, he should be more durable than him
>Mahito: he literally can't touch him!
Not to mention the fact that Gojo was going off a "I'll figure it out later" basis since he was pushed against a wall with all the transfigured humans. He NEVER could've predicted the main villainw ould walk in puppeting the corpse of his bestie
The only mistake Gojo ever made was not destroying Geto's body. But it humanizes him because that's his best friend, despite everything he's done
Gojo is such a fascinating character because despite all his strength, he is powerless to actually change the world around him. Both due to his character and emotions
That's a whole lotta yap to justify Gojo's mistakes.
If you're going to go "everything he did is because he's just that kind of person" then everything in Shibuya ultimately came down to what kind of person Gojo was, and he still is at fault for being the person that he is. You can't not hold Gojo accountable because "it's the kind of person Gojo is", in fact that's exactly why he is accountable for these mistakes.
Gojo could've easily one-tapped all of them with reverse cursed energy while they were recovering from his domain. We see Yuta do this to curses so why wouldn't Gojo be able to do the same, given that he's on a different level from literally every other sorcerer including Yuta?
@@awkwardbound569 a whole lot of yap is when I actually read the story that's presented to me
Lol okay
@@awkwardbound569Gojo cannot use the reverse cursed technique on others. Shoko, Yuta, and Sukuna are the only three that can do that. Everyone else with reverse cursed technique can only apply it to themselves or their cursed technique reversals (if they even have a reversal).
Correct if I am wrong but I am pretty sure this is the case.
That's my point. Gojo didn't learn from all the previous experiences he had and this resulted what we have right now.
I guess overconfidence also kills the cat.
That's the nutshell of it. Gojo was overconfident thinking that he's the strongest. After being almost killed by Toji, I thought he would've been in caution mode all the time while wearing a facade of the overconfident guy...
Yep, Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
Oh man I can’t wait for you to watch the final mha arc whenever it gets animated because there’s SO many moronic choices by the heroes that put civilians and their own allies in dangers it makes Gojo look like the most meticulous man in the planet
Man... don't do me like that. I like MHA and hope it does well, either way, we will talk about it.
5:30 gojo used hos physical abilties not bullets meaning he had to run around and kill 3 transfigured humans
With this Fists per second
Not with bullets its different
Fair, but he is also VERY superhuman, so is it that impressive?
@@mahistv yes
@@mahistv but if we go into the speedster feats then its not even impressive some versions of
The flash took millions of people out of a city before a Nuke exploded the city
It depends on what you consider impressive is
Gojo’s problem is pretty common in the business world. Underestimate the problem because it works well in the last decade. You know you’re the top and look down on your competitors. Too slow to cut down or sacrifice a losing branch.
But he did one thing right which saved the story: he focus a lot on his subordinates so he’s not the only champion, which is importance in the next phase that they need to fight in multiple fronts. Having good subordinates also saved him from the sealed fate and allow the story to progress, to the infamous part fighting Sukuna
Agreed, the only reason the world still has hope, is because Gojo had a certain level of foresight. "If I kill all the higher ups right now, they will be replaced with the same ones. So I have to raise a new, better generation that will take over".
5:09 the buggest argument as to why this plan even worked was because of all the humans it limits gojos abilities to just punching (atleast they assumed that then he got hanami into a corner away from any humans and turned her into paint then he did the 0.2 second domain expansion) a gojo without the ability to one shot them with blue red or purple? Not to mention they had away around infinity plus more hostages then they needed? It makes sense why kenjaku assumed these weaklings could do it well its because they could with all these factors taken into account
Kenjaku did his due diligence and planned it well indeed
8:43
dont forget your also losing the new all might, for someone who was 2 second rate villain.
Even if Shigaraki was arrested, Kurogiri will most likely rescue him, Muscular would Slaughter 1A, Bakugo would never be rescued and most likely killed. Nine would get the cell division quirk and be unstoppable, if Shigaraki is completed before Nine gets to him then he will kill Nine and become even stronger than he is in the story. And Humarise would kill billions with those quirk bombing all over the world.
Hmmm. I wonder if Deku would have died there... He has full couling at 5% and Shiggi's decay was pretty slow at that time. Yeah, he'd have needed urgent help, but I doubt he would have died.
@@mahistv It's still the throat, adam's apple no less.
With great power comes fear and hate from the old guys at the top that want a reason to kill you beside "we are scared" because that would make them look even worse then they already are
Move all disaster curses to one spot, hollow purple. GG
They literally started the fight all grouped up, with no people around them)
I remember telling myself '' damn that looks cool ''
And after I thought '' he could have killed them way sooner. Why did we got at this point?"😅
My point exactly
0:33 Fun fact, that actually varies according to each country's legislation. Many countries in the west work under the "good Samaritan law"
But many other countries, like my home country of Brazil, operate under a "duty to rescue" law, so if you have the ability to easily save some random person drowning in a one-inch puddle, but you choose not to, then you are legally liable for a "failure to rescue"
0:46 interestingly Japan takes a bit from both models, where most citizens are subject to laws closer to the "good Samaritan model", but doctors and other health professionals are subject to, "duty to rescue laws"
anyway, I hope this comment was interesting, your video was great mate
Thank you and it's definitely interesting!
4:29 what a perfect example to show!
Thank you, took me a while to find something suitable
JJK is so hype, and the writing can be so complicated, that you're just along for the ride. But if you stop and think about it videos like this make a lot of sense.
The thing is, a lot of things in JJK make a lot of sense, especially when you think about it
I never realized until now, it really actually is Gojos fault. All he had to do was kill Yuji
Hard to say about that one. Sukuna would have still been around in 19 fingers, Kenjaku would have still lurked and Mahito would have evolved somehow.
i think you should also account in the fact that if gojo were to kill a non sorcerer regardless of reason he would become an outlaw especially since the higher ups hate his guts which is probably why he is so firm on not killing anyone himself while he COULD kill everyone in that station and put the pseudo getos plan to a complete halt he would ALSO lose almost all support and position he was working towards and make his personal goal of building a better jujutsu system basically impossible
while you can say this is a selfish thing to do its also hard to argue he was completely in the wrong since he was just following the rules given to him
tldr; its the systems fault
I mean, you are not wrong, but what are they gonna do about it? Also, he doesn't need to tell anyone
@@mahistv they can definitely tell if his domain killed those people
The only answer i can get of the top of my head for all of this is that Gege decided not to care enough to write him to win.the guy did openly say he hated him 😅
Yeah, pretty much
I mean Goyo probably tought he could deal with it, he couldnt know the whole extent of Hetos plans
No he couldn't, but after talking so many Ls in a short span of time, he should have been on highest alert
its crazy that gojo could just jump on them then kill them like hanami
Exactly. Also, in the beginning they were all nicely grouped up. Perfect target for a Hollow.
Making Gojo after his domain expansion really made him look weak compared to what we’ve seen and are going to see in the future. Not only that but based on the basketball scene flashback Gojo doesn’t much care about his responsibility to save people.
I agree with the first statement, but he has changed after the whole Star Plasma Vessel thing. However, that shouldn't excuse his choices in Shibuya
I didn't saw it that way, but now I can't unsee it. Even with tasking Megumi to recover the equal of a nuke in piece, Gojo fucked it up from the start. My view on it, with his "Nah I'd win", is that he thougt, even with the worse scenario of all time, he could fix it up cause' that's what a God could do. But even gods can bleed.
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
Better answer.Gege needed a plot to put up the Shibuya arc😂😂.Hence Gojo freezing
Yeah...
Gojo has been characterized as the kinda person who doesn’t want to take away people’s futures he is by no means perfect and your absolutely right he took the sub-optimal path during the fight in Shibuya but it’s consistent with his character and personally I think that’s more important
If Gojo was the type of guy to mercilessly go for the most optimal strat even if it disregarded innocent lives then he would have killed Yuji the second he hate Sukuna’s finger part of it is arrogance and ego yes but it’s also the fact that he hates that kind of thinking it’s why he so often buts heads with the higher ups in Jujutsu society
Gojo is mentally very weak character I don't think he can live with killing humans with his own hands
Hmmm, I can argue that he is both weak and strong mentally. Because one minute he goes against the entire JJ Institution, the other he is being indecisive.
@@mahistvyes he is being indecisive because any bad choice could lead in the death of many and his power alone can’t do everything given that they’re are way more lives at stake he’s not fighting people in open spaces or large fields he’s in a condense train station fighting 3 special grades one of them being volcanic and the other can mess with peoples souls yes I’m sure any. Other human wouldn’t be indecisive despite the fact let’s ask nanami or naobito. The 2 other adults who were also indecisive and had better opponents to fight and made many mistakes and died in the end not that they weren’t skilled but they also had their back to the wall sure naobito also had an ego but the point is just that raw power can’t solve everything gojo can’t just kill them on the spot as not only is that reckless but also heartless as he would end killing innocent people which he unironically saved many people by sending in the hospital due to being within the 0.2 domain expansion.
Also killing innocent people is not a sign of mental strength/weakness it is however Duranged and doesn’t help anyone also to be fair jojo doesn’t know their precise location at that moment as they book not long before the 0.2 due him killing hanami so if he had done the sure hit or a hollow purple and turns out he missed all of them which would be likely given that their not in the scene afterwards til after the sealing of the prison realm he would have not only failed to kill all the curses and kenjaku but also would have killed many innocent lives for a very irrational move. Literally the only thing that went wrong is fake gets
He litteraly killed his best friend with his own hands.
amazingly made arguments! :D
You forgot to include plot convenience which explains everything you are asking about in this video. Gege wanted Gojo out to progress story, so he purposefully made Gojo do stupid decisions otherwise he would never be caught in prison realm.
But I get it that such explanation doesn't give you room for video like that lol
Yeah, I try to look at it from within the show. I definitely understand where you are coming from though
You seem to be missing something. They had Domain Amplification this time around to counter his Infinity/cursed energy. I doubt he would’ve gone out of his way to focus on Hanami if he could’ve dispatched them that easily.
Otherwise, I more or less agree with you on the ethical dilemma the show forces on Gojo. His inaction and hesitation has already cost more lives than he would’ve potentially saved had he gone scorched earth. You don’t negotiate with literal curses who view humanity as fodder. It would’ve been actually quite understandable from his perspective if the curses themselves avoided killing humans and only used them as shields. After all, what use does a hostage serve if it’s already dead? Him holding back would then make a lot more sense if even the opposition is minimizing casualties during the crossfire.
Yes, but what about Purple? In the beginning they were all grouped up with no people around. If he fired it immediately, maybe he would have gotten them? or at least one? Why wait this time, if you used it on Hanami almost immediately during the school event?
@@mahistv purple would kill all the people in the train station later in the manga it's revealed that no human in the b5 basement died where gojo used his domain he ce presence was enough for curses to avoid that area completely
@@mahistv Welp, you pretty much nailed it in this video. His arrogance and overconfidence are ultimately what doomed him. Though given the ungodly power at his fingertips, it makes sense for his character to have such a major flaw.
He seems to have mellowed out a bit after his run in with Toju, but his arrogance was still retained sadly.
@@mahistvI mean they will not just stand there on the spot unlike other characters in other anime
There's a character in a story I read. He's hailed as a hero, even though he doesn't regard himself as one. It's because he always aims for the most number of lives saved, and not the individual life. Unless that person is someone he knows. Killing a city of zombies, even if there are survivors. Because the remaining 4 billion (in that story) of humanity will survive. He doesn't call himself a hero because he doesn't uphold the same ideals, neither does he beat himself up for the dilemma...
Reminds me of Avatar Yang-Chen
Please tell if you remember what story it was!
@@Ramsey276one i am so sorry man...
Anime only here but this is my thought: if I remember correctly during hidden inventory gojo goes through a change of not putting value on human life and it’s only because of geto that he doesn’t just kill everyone. Gojo essentially got chained by an idea of “we can’t kill innocents” and so single mindedly focuses on that even if it screws him. Hence why they were so confident he’d never use a technique that’d cause casualties and why it was such a shock when he popped his domain. I could be wrong though.
It's hard not to be when you could have solo’d literally everyone there, including 15 finger sukuna and all the good guys
Well, after seeing what Curses did during the sister school event, I wouldn't have been so arrogant
@@mahistv same thing with Stars and Stripes (btw you should totally make a vid about mha) they were both two op
It was Gojo's fault because it was Geto's
It was Geto's fault because it was Toji's
It was Toji's fault because it was the Zenin clan's
JJK would've been much nicer if the Zenin clan wasn't such a piece of shit
You can say that about literally every shonen with a clan... they are always up to no good
7:13 The reason Gojo goes after the transfigured humans first is because he knows he can confidently 1 shot all of them without waking them up. Gojo A. Doesn’t know how long the special grades will be asleep for and B. Doesn’t know for certain he can 1 shot them all before waking them up (he’s never seen choso before and doesn’t truly know Mahito’s durability). This is on top of the fact casting a domain expansion burns out your CT meaning Gojo can’t use limitless to defeat any of the curses in the area. There’s no way Gojo with just raw cursed energy inforcement could 1 shot Jogo, choso and Mahito while avoiding contact with any of the transfigured humans since just touching 1 may awaken it. In short Kenjaku’s plan was so curated to Gojo’s ability and personality that even Gojo’s best move wouldn’t be enough to avoid Gojo getting sealed
Speed is just weird in this show and I don't understand why the jujutsu high didn't blame the gojo clan since satoru is the one who stopped Yuji's execution
Gojo is pretty much the whole clan? I know more of them exist, but we haven't seen any.
Thing is….if sorcerer had a ‘call Gojo’ policy when encountering a special grade this whole dilemma could’ve been solved. Remember Nanami and Yuji encountered Mahito TWICE and that whole time Gojo could’ve popped up if they notified him. Mahito would be dead and transfigured humans no longer a factor.
Exactly. The only reason that's not a thing from the plot's perspective is that the elders are not letting it happened. Why did Gojo himself not give his friends a panic button? I don't know
I don't think he could use hollow purple after activating his domain since after you activate a domain, you can't use your cursed techniques right after, for a period of time. This law applies to everyone in the series. now whether he could regain his CT before they woke up is a question to think about.
He had 5 minutes to recover. Mahito was able to use it within a few seconds seconds against Itadori/Nanami and in less against Itadori/Todo.
The utilitarian argument for saving human lives at the cost of other lives is always "these lives DON'T matter because these other lives DO matter" which makes no sense. Could Gojo have fought WAY better in Shibuya and possibly avoided all the subsequent problems? Absolutely. Was he mentally capable of doing that? Arguably not, but theoretically yes. Does not fighting at maximum efficiency and power make him in any way responsible for Shibuya? That's a huge stretch. At some point, you're that one sorcerer at school who asks why they don't just give all the missions to Gojo now that he's discovered ultra instinct.
That's not what I said, it's not "these VS other", "it's few VS many". Also, Gojo absolutely could have sacrificed people as he was talking about killing "innocent" followers of Star Plasma sect and he proposed to kill the higher ups. After he had to kill his best friend, I don't think he'd be incapable of killing random people he has no attachment to, in order to save more people.
There is a pretty big problem with your reasoning here. Gojo can’t go all out here because of the civilians so that means he can’t use destructive techniques like red, blue, or purple. That was established earlier in the season when he could’ve killed geto but chose not to do so due to his own conflicted feelings and the fact that they were in a populated area. It’s also kind of in Gojo’s character to be REALLY arrogant so the fact that he’s limited to using his hands and hands only isn’t bad or pressing to him. However, he does have to deal with the problem of lowering infinity to actually touch them and by this point in the series he can still be harmed by jogo and Hanami even with his RCT regen, so a degree of caution is warranted. Gojo also isn’t aware of the full extent of the curses plans by this point. To him it was just three curses stupid enough to bother him for a third time and he would eliminate them as carefully as possible to prevent any lucky shots or falling into a possible trap by lowering infinity. He only goes all out with domain expansion when he realizes the full scale of the assault as mahito arrives, and his priority is to eliminate all of the low level curses allowing him to fully focus on the four main ones who should still be frizzed after his domain, although they could obviously have a precaution to protect themselves so treading carefully is warranted ( he was right here considering kenjaku and Dagon were right around the corner).
By this point Gojo also isn’t as strong as the one that fights 20f Sukuna later in the series, because of his training in the prison realm. He’s closer to 15f Sukuna than to 20f Sukuna by this point, so the gap isn’t that large especially after we see how maki and yuji could fight 15f Sukuna later in the series when both were around jogo’s level. If there’s multiple really strong guys in fight against you it gets a lot harder to fight all of them and going full on hypersonic to kill them is still a massive risk due to the civilians and the risk to himself in lowering infinity to land a hit. Overall the situation is really complicated for him since he’s not really allowed to take any large scale action to eliminate them all at once, or even speed blitz one of them. The only times we saw him do that were when he blitzed hanami and used his domain when things got testy, and both times he made sure to limit damage to any civilians present. Was it a little convenient that he didn’t at least try to kill jogo ina blitz? Yes. Can the same be said for Choso or Mahito? Yes. But in both cases he understood that there was an attack waiting for him the second he dropped infinity to attack. He had to pick his punches carefully or risk losing his arms or killing the people around him directly.
One problem Gojo can teleport, also how could you know that Gojo before the prison realm is close to 15f Sukuna?
Wait, have you finished my video? This is exactly the point - he should have ignored civilians and just did his job, BECAUSE of what happened to Geto. He hesitated then and we got the night of a 100 demons. He was too confident and got his ass handed by Toji. He also let 2 special grade curses escape, which resulted a bunch of deaths. At this point in the story, only dumb person won't realize that this is a very dangerous group, and their destruction should be the priority over a few hundred or even thousand lives.
@@mahistv well that’s the problem, he can’t. Jogo even says during the episode that gojo was “willing to accept casualties caused by curses but not one’s caused by satoru Gojo”. That was the crux of the plan for them and it almost worked. Gojo doesn’t want to kill or harm innocent people because at that point he’s practically no better than Geto or toji, plus the circumstances of the fight were themselves difficult. His domain expansion was his all out moment, but as stated previously gojo just didn’t want to, or literally can’t kill people. He’s still bound by some sort of code for sorcerers and I doubt that allows for killing some to save others.
@@motivationallizard6644that and jujutsu society will likely reprimand him if they found out about his collateral damage. I think it’s more than morality because Gojo is absolutely capable of killing people to save more in the long run. But if his goal is to reform jujutsu society, he literally cannot step out of line by intentionally killing innocents.
" Yuji could fight against 15 F Sukuna" . It is totally false. Megumi totally nerfed Sukuna in 10% of his power.
actually, the reason they didn't kill all for one is because had some sort of ties with other nations, and killing him would cause more fallout than they were ready for.
That sound like an excuse to me. He is an international terrorist originating from Japan and should be given the chair by his government.
it not that unrealistic since real life that is a good reason why some dictators remain in power.@@mahistv
Well that makes for an intresting Story doesn't it, also after 0.2 DE his CT was on cooldown so Mahito could survive
Agreed, if Gojo was doing everything perfectly, no story would have been needed.
As for cooldown, Mahito got his ability back within seconds and Gojo had at least 5 minutes of time
Special grade Curses knew domain amplification, which means they could've learned something like simple domain. And purple is way too destructive to use on curses. And satoru is fast cause of his ct, his ct allows him to teleport and he uses blue on his punches, means people will become unwanted casualties. This video is heavily misinformed, and if not for the prison seal, satoru literally won.
The main issue with him trying to take on the special grades is that his technique isn’t the best for killing curses, especially in crowded areas. He wouldn’t be able to deal enough damage in one hit to kill the special grades without killing people nearby, that’s just not how his powers work. He can just rip the human’s heads off to kill them, but cursed spirits don’t actually need their heads to be connected to their bodies(see jogo). That’s why he’s taking it so carefully, he literally kills one cursed spirit with his “barrier” because if he used blue or red he’d destroy the infrastructure and kill hundreds.
He also knows that there are more enemies waiting, and they keep coming in waves. He hasn’t seen mahito, who could kill him instantly if he got off his domain expansion. Similarly, Jogo could try his domain expansion at any point and kill everyone nearby. He also knows there are likely several curse users nearby that are erecting the barriers, and while Chozo isn’t near his level he’s trying to keep his eyes open for a trap with a subversive cursed technique. He was basically trying to be ready for anything, and using the humans as his own hostages(because if the cursed spirits killed them all, they would certainly die from him being able to go all out)
Lastly, this was a specially designed attack aimed to pry on Gojo’s pride, but it was also meant to make him constantly be overthinking everything. We know when the train pulls up that mahito has set it up with transfigured humans, but Gojo doesn’t find out until the doors open and he has to react within a second. He’s constantly being forced to make split-second decisions and try to weigh human lives versus the potential number of people that could be saved. The thing is though, Gojo wouldn’t actually kill any of them. He’s a notorious softy, and half of his friends AND enemies are people he couldn’t bear to kill. Geto knows that he’s not trying to save the largest number of people, he’s trying to save everyone because he wouldn’t kill a single one of them. In the end, that’s why he chose to kill all of the transfigured humans instead of the special grades: they were the most immediate threat to the human lives.
6:24
Gojo is just as fast as sukuna, but not in the same way
Cursed energy reinforcement leaks outside a sorcerers body when they use it
Gojo enhances his speed by applying his cursed technique making him even wxtra faster
But this has the effect of leaking into normal humans
The narrator explains that if Gojo employs his speed, non sorcers would feel like they are being missed by a truck moving at high speed, the whiplash would be insane
That's why gojo was extremely exhausted after his domain because at that point
He was efficiently restricting his cursed energy from leaking out his body while maximizing the reinforcement and enhancement available to him
All while navigating an enclosed space filled with a crowd of a couple 100 people who he was trying to protect
The only thing that was Gojo's fault was Sukana running loose since he took responsibility for Yuji
I wonder how this would have affected Kenjaku's plans. Could Mahito evolve enough or he would have died to Gojo eventually?
@@mahistv actually Gojo tried to warm jujutsu society that something like Shibuya would happen. That's another reason why he was trying to raise real dogs 🐕 like Yuta, Megumi, and Yuji. Gojo was trying to warn that sorcerers need to get stronger/change and that he can't do it alone.
All he have to do is domain expansion and kill all of them gg. but i guess he want everyone to do his job for him?
Yep, as he said before, he wants kids to get gud
@@mahistv im guessing he is bored of life . i Think
He didn’t properly bury geto cuz of his connection which let kenjaku take over his body but if kenjaku didn’t have the chance to take over geto then the special grades prob wouldn’t team up (forgot about 3:00
Well, there was no way for him to know Geto will be taken over, but still he should have dealt with whatt was going on better
Lets not forget about the arrogant statement he said when he was captured.. he said his students will handle it. Thats bs
I mean, he wasn't that wrong, he just didn't specify the timings of WHEN they will handle it
If it was for Yuta and Hakari yes he is right , . But he clearly said bullshit when he though about Yuji , Megumi and Nobara at that time .
Gege hates gojo so he's doing what it takes to make him look like a total schmuck
Yeah... it just doesn't makes sense within the story
Any of goio's punches should eviscerate any of these curses
Not sure about that, but he definitely had an overwhelming advantage.
Even if gojo just said screw it and didn't care about immediate casualties for the greater good. The jujutsu higher ups would absolutely use it as an excuse to persecute him.
Well u could easily argue with, how would they know gojo did it. Plus the higher ups already hated him and wouldn't even think of persecuting him because well, he can kill them, all of them, quite easily.
1:30 Nobody is ever obligated to do anything to help anyone regardless of whether they have the means or not.
true it's an ass move to not help but you're not in any way obligated to help anyone in any way we are all free people we choose what we want to do
True, but I stand by what I say. It's MORALLY incorrect to ignore people in mortal danger, when you have knowledge and means to help.
2:00 Oh this is going to age so well.
I am seeing a lot of people misinterpreting gojo character and Shibuya incident so let me make few things clear
1. Kenny had geto memories so he knew what was the best way to seal gojo and he just used the disaster curses and other humans to increase his brain stress to activate the prison realm
2. Even if prison realm failed Kenny had already planned to kill gojo using a 14f sukuna and yes Kenny had those fingers which he gave to jogo after sealing and yeah spoilers. But 14f sukuna easily kills This gojo
3. Gojo couldn't use any big move red blue or purple or else the entire train station would collapse and everyone would die
4. This was to show their overrealince on gojo the moment he is gone they are fucked and the higher ups which are being manipulates by Kenny are at fault he they went to damage control the moment Shibuya ended
4. Being confident in jjk world is very essential best ex jogo and Megumi and so gojo isn't overconfident he is just gojo winning even if he dies and he will protect civilians
5. The civilians gojo was trying to protect all survive so he king of succeeds
6. Gojo charecter is all about just having absolute power doesn't change shit he cannot protect everything everyone that why he wanted to raise a new gen that can help him fix the jjk world watch both the seasons carefully
6. Pay more attention to jjk power system its logical so if you are used to bullshit and plot armour you won't get it just watch s1 and 2 carefully or read the vid or watch any vid explaining the jjk power system
7. Jjk universe is based on negative energy the power system itself rewards things like selfish and concept of curses exist and jjk sorcerers are literally insane so if you are trying to do something good it's almost impossible in jjk verse .
If you can't wait just read the manga
1. Agreed, that's why I'm saying Gojo is at fault for getting his priorities mixed up, after seeing how dangerous these curses were up to this point.
2. I don't think Kenny wopuld have been able to feed them to Yuji, because Gojo would have prevented it and Yuji himself wound have been at 100%, sinse there was no fight with Choso.
3. That's my point, he should have ignored these people.
4. Yes, that has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
4. That's my point, overconfidence is his fault.
5. Great, we saved a few hundred but condemned the entirety of Japan...
6. Yes, that has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
6. This means nothing.
7. Again, this has nothing to do with how Gojo should have acted.
"14 f killing this gojo" what are you talking about ? Gojo didn't become significantly stronger in the serie . At any moment Sukuna can only kill him when he has his full power
I really like this video and your content and I would like to highlight one point we all glanced over we all got used to gojo being referred to as the strongest that we forget that he is also a human so my question is did he fail because he didn't do it or he didn't want to do it ?
Thank you! I agree that he is a human who can make mistakes, and thats exactly my point - he made so many before, that given his position as the strongest (literally maintaining the balance in this world, he should act way more decisively, disregarding his own feelings. Kinda like Avatar Yang-chen
7:48 he already did that? On the clip you are showing
No. His body was reduces to chunks and a puddle (his body is still there, just in a different configuration). When Gojo uses Hollow, it like multiplying by zero, nothing is left. You can't restore nothing.
@mahistv I would assume he would be able to destroy/damage mahito soul anyway.
Gojo speed is the only thing that you get wrong. Teleportation is an amplification of blue which can drag affect civilian especially when Gojo have to choose where to teleport in the mixed of chaos and people. His flash like speed work because the human are frozen. It like zooming on a car if there nothing moving on the road it much easier to navigate compare to a street with constant movement. If he run recklessly he will A Train civillian. It like kusekabe said. Special grade to normal human is like elephat tapdance on ants. Gojo is an elephant with a bunch of nuked strap onto it any move he can use can directly killed more people than the curses
He can’t use Blue or Purple with that many people around… silly video
Why? it affects a straight line and its radius is not that big. Float over, cast it downwards and boom, no-one is hurt. But again, the point of the video - he tried to protect people and that's why he failed. He shouldn't have care about collateral in this case.
@@mahistv bud i think you don't know jjk power system bule or purple would instantly kill all the people there limitless isn't normal technique Kenny specifically chose that area for a reason for your info even sukuna would get crushed instantly along with the entire building if he used blue or red which is twice as strong as blue and don't ask purple just see s1 clip how big area the purple destroyed
@@mahistvit’s not also even if was blue draws other things and people in which doesn’t help much in such a condensed space
@@mahistv gojo gameplan most likely
-use DE if something bad happend
-once DE activated kill all transfigured human first since once all transfigured die the special curse will awake and still try to attack ( bringing less ppl die ) if he kills the special grade curse first more ppl will die since the transfigured human some still alive and awake )
the unexpected thing is kenjaku appear completely freeze him
@@mahistvred has a large radius it's literally a shockwave 😅 and blue sucks everything around it and don't forget human have no resistance hence they immediately die
Great video, Mahis. ❤
Thank you! Glad, you liked it
Oh WOW
So long since I watched a video from you!
Haha, glad to have you back!
@@mahistv yeah, probably watched all the older ones multiple times before I got a new Switch game and YOU CAN GUESS WHAT ..
XD
6:50 do you play SMT/Persona, by any chance?
XD
No, it somehow went by me and only know that this is, allegedly, a life altering journey like Jojo's
@@mahistvIndividual results WILL vary.
As Philemon prefers, methinks.
XD
I say no. You’re not obligated to help someone even if you can. That Essentially turns the strong into servants of the weak
Love the videos man. I agree with some of the things you said but some others just dont make sense. The first point was about gojos powergap between the rest of the the curses there. The curses are much weaker than him but you do have to realise that gojo basically couldnt use his technique even before his domain expansion. Every single move that gojo uses has a giant area of effect. To the point that he always fights alone becouse even his sorcerer allies always get hurt by his own moves. And after his domain expansion, his technique was on cooldown. Mahito in season 1 was a different case, as he is 1.a curse, who has a completly different anatomy compared to humans (including their brain wich is the most important part) and 2. Manhitos domain got broken midway through by yuji.
Now about gojo targetting the transfigured humans first. Things would have gotten a bit tricky if he started with the curses. Choso stayed hidden throughout the crowd for the entire fight, so gojo would have had to run through the entire station just to find him. Not to mention, choso looks relatively human, so thers a good chance that he would miss him while speeding through the crowd. But yeah if he did find him, then choso would be done for. Jogo would be the least tricky but he would still wake up before gojo kills him wich might couse some problems. The biggest priblem here is mahito. Becouse if he takes mahitos head off, he will just have 2 mahitos to deal with. Thers also a chance that if mahito wakes up, the transfigured humans do as well. Becouse he is the one controlling them. You also have to remembee that there are a THOUSAND transfigured humans. Thats a whole armada. Do you know just how many problems that could cost if gojo DIDNT deal with them quickly? Another thing you have to consider is that gojo has VERY little time to think about all this, and while he thinks, he constantly watches peaple die around him.
Thank you dude, it's totally normal to disagree.
1. That's my point - he shouldn't have prioritized saving people, because that only causes more and more deaths.
2. Don't forget that he has "Very good eyes" He doesn't need to look too hard for Choso. Also, if he was able to spend 5 minutes killing transfigured humans, he should have had time to look around.
3. The amount of transfigured humans doesn't matter when they are not waking up in the near future. They are WEAK and should have been greatly affected by 0.2 Domain Expansion.
4. Gojo was NEVER shown to act hastily and before the DE, he was casually walking around "chasing" Jogo. But then, all of a sudden, after he disabled everyone on the platform, he decides to NOT think even for a second and goes on a useless rampage. I don't buy that.
@@mahistv cool man. It's nice to have little discussions like this.
1. Him prioritizing the lives of civilians would be a charecter flaw. Not a writing flaw.
2. Yes he has good eyes. However, every single human has cursed energy. And chosos appearance is relatively normal considering its halloween. Hed have to spend some time to find to him and then as I said, the biggest problem is mahito. If mahito wakes up, there's a good chance that the transfigured humans will as well as they are all under his controll.
3.the reason why gojo was so calm when chasing jogo was that at that mahito hadn't arrived yet and things were relatively in control. Once mahito arrived, A LOT MORE peaple started dying, wich made gojo panic. It was the exact thing "geto" was hoping for. Obviously gojo is normally very calm and not quick to act but that's becouse usually there isnt a mastermind villian with the memories of your best friend that makes a foolproof plan to beat you.
I know from a narrative perspective, Yuji vs Mahito was built up to their final exchange in Shibuya, but in reality, Gojo should have prioritized killing Mahito on site. If you really understood how the story was for telling how insane his growth was, Mahito was on track to being the cursed spirit version of Sukuna. If Gojo had killed Mahito before being sealed, Kenjaku's culling games goes out the window and it would have set Kenny's plans back.
On top of that, Gojo knew all about Mahito and how dangerous he can be. If he called the cloning guy "surprisingly weak" because his ability is supposed to be strong, he should know that "soul manipulation" is at least as scary as "curse spirit manipulation", which is a special grade level power
@@mahistv Agreed. I don't know if it was intentional writing, but if you can be objective and look past Gojo's cool factor, he's actually a pretty sloppy guy in terms of leadership 🤣 his fans won't hear any shade thrown at their great king, but if you start asking questions like "If Gojo was this powerful at this point or that point in the story, why didn't he just..." You can see a lot of errors in his planning and actions. Man's got a good heart, so it's his redeeming factor, but holy ****** if he doesn't fumble throughout this series. Habitually. He's a habitual fumbler 😂
Are we certain that infinity disables transfigured humans? I'm not entirely sure what led to that conclusion, since Gojo seemingly didn't think so
They are a low-grade curses, if it was enough to stall Special Grades (which was Gojo's intention) it would definitely have more impact on weaker curses.
Why did Gojo get sealed? Plot armor for the villains.
Kinda... when you don't know how to beat a character - seal them!
for the plot to move on and going on gojo hold the story back by a lot that why gege hated gojo since he is to overpowered
While superman could stop a plane. The problem is that the plane would just go right through him due to how fast its going. even if he tries to slow it down it wouldn't be enough to stop the momentum and again the plane would just get destroyed at the area he held and would fly through him. This is mainly because if we are going off of how strong superman is, I think he would just accidentally use too much strength
Well... we saw it in a movie already, so kinda counts. Plus, look up how tennis players can catch a tennis ball with just their racket by matching it's velocity and slowing it down, without it bouncing off. Same principle will apply. Not saying people will survive completely intact, but it's way better than slamming into earth at freefalling speed.
I concur. Do you concur doctor?
Yep
It’s gojo’s fault for not destroying geto’s body
Yea, but that's going too far back, so I won't bother with that.
I mean he stunned sukana in their fight and didn’t go for the head so 😅
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@@mahistv yeah forgot 😭