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There's a difference between "we personally find porn bad because of our religious beliefs" and "porn is evil because god says so and a *real woman* shouldn't ever even *think* about a man in that way, that's bad"
@@Flapjack505 we know, don't worry ahah , there are twats in every large community, you don't have to feel ashamed on their behalf :> it's just too bad these twats lead to the persecution of millions of people :')
And it’s also different from ‘porn is bad not because some imaginary magical being says so, but because it directly contributes to increased demand of the sex trafficking of women and children’
Pretty sure this is a church culture thing. I can't sit near a lot of people during sermons because they go "mm...mm-hm...mmh" the whole time. Like they need to actively participate instead of just listening quietly.
I am legit from a religius school , with NUNS actual nuns giving us CLASSES , we showed them this girls and ohhhhh boi they did not like them lol , they said and I quote " they have a cultish mob mentallity , you see someone like this in real life , run the other way ok" lmaoo
@@SuicideRedemption y’know, even in people I’ve met irl have had vastly different experiences going to catholic schools. Goes to show that even catholic school staff are as varied in quality as public, I suppose
@@SuicideRedemption I guess catholic schools are a mixed bag. I attended two in which there were a few gay couples, and one I'm pretty sure FTM trans person, no one batted an eye or discriminated in the second one, the first one I was too young to pay attention. Then, I went to another one where the priests teaching us would literally say shit like "God will punish all gays with eternal hellfire" who would get furious even at an implication that you questioned such a standpoint.
He isn't wrong, it is insane to mash two bolts together. Using a nut and a bolt is the only way. That's what my brother's boyfriends says, and he's a builder, so he should know.
Even that argument falls flat. Like if god is really there and all living as people say, then surely he forgives you for not knowing when he didnt provide you with any proof while you were alive 😂😂😂 According to them, god is passive aggressive lol
@@kamilareeder1493 ? I mean.. believing means to have faith without any proof. That's the point. Having proof means having knowledge, which is like the opposite of believe
@@HinaTheBlue I mean I guess, but idk I hear some people phrase more in terms of belief, I grew up jewish so I feel like people always phrased a relationship with god more as a student/teacher thing rather than being based solely on belief . But I see what you mean
@@sh4li8i6 well, they view anything regarding the LGBT community or other things related as "sins" so they don't acknowledge their existence. Like a devious behavior but not something that "exist"
I'm a Christian woman, but hearing them repeatedly talk about things such as fearing God makes me very uncomfortable. I think people like this need to be very careful about the way they frame their conversations around religion-- it's not hard to start sounding a bit pompous and "holier than thou". I believe religion is a very personal experience between yourself and God. So instead of putting your energy into telling other people how to act, you should focus on bettering yourself and your own faith/relationship with God.
Isn't fearing god like old testament stuff like you know that was the god that was like I'll kill your whole family and cattle to test your faith or flood the world to teach a point whilst the New testament god was like peace and all loving and the new testament is really the only part Christians should be following cause you know Jesus?
@@danielshore1457 Nowadays, most Christians (myself included) tend to see it as more respect, like that you would give a good father who loves you or even a trusted teacher, rather than the classic meaning of fear like you said. That kind of view of fear of God is mainly an older one, though the idea does still persist in some Christian circles. Sorry if it doesn't make sense or is wrong anyway, I'm just going by my experiences and beliefs as a Christian and beliefs I've seen in other young Christians
Kathleen KMC I’m fine with people talking about religion on the internet. But as a Christian, it’s just the way that they’re trying to convey the religion is kinda too harsh. Like they’re trying to get people to convert out they’re coming on too harsh or smthn
My sweet little old great grandma born in early 1900 told me way back in the 80's that the only good thing about saving sex for marriage is that you will never know how good it could really be if you end up with a boar... She was a firecracker. She also told me to find a man who cooks and knows how to iron his own shirts, and I did just that. She taught me well.
@Dick White I'm sure she can, what they're talking about is a guy who can contribute and not pretend to be an idiot to get out of helping around the house and stuff.
this is definitely off topic from the video, but i like the way you've let more of your personality and sense of humor slip out into your videos recently. i have always enjoyed your videos because they allow me to look at things from a different perspective, but when you allow more of yourself to come through it adds a little something extra. thank you for the great work as always!
paige yeah I think it’s pretty cool to see the growth and evolution of his personality over the time I’ve been subbed. I feel like around this time next year he’ll have over a million subs if not a little sooner. I just get that vibe from this channel
The victim shamed & mocked Marilyn Monroe bc she committed sui**cide in chapter 2 of their book. They glossed over her childhood of her being ra***ped, her mentally unstable mother being hospitalized/unable to care for her, her going from foster home to foster home. "Had she just lived a biblical life she would be alive. If fame, money, looks are so great then why did she ki*ll herself?" There's soo much more if you actually look into them. I reccomend Jimmy Snow's coverage of them where he covers their hideous true selves.
@@dab4857 a broken person lives a complete different life than someone who has is all put together 😂 these clown girls are hypocrites themselves. Good day.
The Voice of Treason I was just waiting for her to pop up, seeing as I wouldn’t know about these random white girls except through my lesbian mother, Lord Farquad
I've notice that! It's like a misogyny thing. Like a way of infantilizing women. Like how some men will say females instead of women to dehumanize them, they'll say girls instead of women to make them seem less competent or adult. Weird
chiming in from a fundamentalist background (i used to attend fundamentalist church services with my family, i’m on my own way to find my truth now)… this definitely is a misogyny and fundie-culture thing- at least that i noticed in my former church. women were never referred to as women unless part of a ministry, instead they’d use ‘girls’ or ‘ladies’. only other women would actually say ‘the event for women’ or ‘women’s ministry’ while the men would say ‘girl’s outreach’ or something like that.
I waited until marriage to kiss Yeah well I didn’t even look at my husband until we married I didn’t even meet my husband, he’s a pen pal If you know you know
When I get home, I'm gonna... *pulls mic closer* I'm gonna kiss you so much. On the mouth. Ya hear that? *crinkle crinkle* That's the sound of my opening my bible.
yes they do, along with other normal people. Some people these days are stupid. Girls are no different from the other genders in society. They live their lives, thats it.
Me either. I was scared shitless of nuns and god for a very long time . Even though my parents taught me a loving and non judging god I spent a lot of time at my dads parents house who were extremely Irish catholic which is all about fear and guilt ( they charged later in life but through my informative years they really impacted me). Every Sunday I was petrified to go to church that’s finally my parents stood up to them and I was no longer forced to go. I had a prayer book and spoke with “god” every night and ask him all sorts of questions I never got answers to. When I got older I researched the Bible and made me hate the Christian god more and more . I am trying to get more spiritual because I do believe their are “gods “ and maybe a head honcho . Anyways I will never understand feeling safe while being in fear .
when people say "fear god" they dont mean fear as in "ah I'm scared" they mean fear as respect don't know why they didn't just say "respect" in the bible, but hey-ho
@@tiernanhalvey7758 Yeah, but it's a respect based out of fear. Christians don't respect their God because they think he's kind and loving, they respect him because they're terrified of the repercussions of not respecting him. It's basically a mainstream and modernized version of "leader by strength" and not "leader by capability".
There was a lemon demon background line from his Ancient Aliens song that I find sums it up. I am paraphrasing here but "Better evil gods than no gods".
Tiernan Halvey Probably because it’s been translated like 5 times over with the first half written in Hebrew and the second half written several hundred years later in Greek. Gonna have some things lost in translation there.
Funny how they claim it isn’t “lady like” for you to experience anything that can happen to make you learn” but WILL claim what is lady like due to “gods followings Last time I checked is that god loves all no matter what you do... Certain types of Christians can have a certain idea on how you should live your life as a person but can guilt trip you in the kind of way to the point of where there isn’t too much freedom and maturity for you to learn the mistakes and grow. I wouldn’t say all but some do.
•••••• li4nn3.5iu •••••• Exactly. I’m Christian, but I know that, as humans, we aren’t perfect. Girl Defined is such a twisted idea of how to teach Christianity. The goal of finding Jesus and accepting him isn’t about walking on eggshells and beating yourself up about anything bad you do. It’s about accepting the fact that you’ve sinned, asking for forgiveness, and moving on to try and avoid those same mistakes. Even without the Bible, humans have a moral compass. We know right from wrong, so trying to teach it to a person is already a stupid concept. Edit: No longer Christian since writing this, but still applies
just because rthey don't have any style doesnt mean they dont have money. You'd be surprised at how many well off people have no or poor fashion sense.
They are very well off. They once tried to say they were poor because their parents GAVE one of them a car that was like 10 years old instead of new. Their parents own several businesses, the own big, nice houses & they love to talk about how they 'walked away' from modeling careers because Jesus. Which is fine, but not everyone is in a place to just turn down work without yaknow, starving. They consantly are asking for money & selling stuff at crazy prices they can't justify. They like to travel out of state to buy thrift store clothes poor people like me actually need, only to mark it up 500% & sell it online. Plus on their mom's side their great-grandpa was NAZI MAYOR who owned a giant villa in Austria. Bethany & her husband went & visited his grave & the family home while waxing nostalgic on social media about the 'good old days' when nazi-great-gpa ran the town & how glad they were that the house was still in the family. Gross. I have family that were Gypsy refugees, bet they had houses they wanted to keep as well, but that's a whole other thing. They remind me alot of Classically Abby, they often say feminism=bad because they think that's why women feel pressure to work. I feel pressure to work because I enjoy not starving & sleeping indoors. The live so high above normal they have no idea what motivates real women. You don't have to be a billionaire to be incredibly naive about socio-economic realities I guess.
Christians have been straying from God and following what non Christians are doing since the beginning of time. It is possible that that is what they are referring to rather than the general "going against societal norms", but idk.
Does america even have any form of counter culture? It certainly isn't being liberal or conservative (since most counter cultures don't have their own news stations and aren't part of the culture as a whole).
They attacked another Christian TH-camr like a year ago I think it was. God Is Gray is her name. She's very sweet and genuinely kind. She saw how people were trolling them and decided to reach out and offer support. Bethany was like "Oh, yes, we're very grateful!" but then that same week came out with a video saying very disgusting things and untruths about GodIsGray. Jimmy from Mr.Atheist is very good friends with GodIsGray and he was absolutely furious about this and made a video about it which is how I found out.
Im Christian too and they are basically just 'Im using God as an excuse to be stupid, and to show what I think is the only right thing, even though we are just in Denial'
Ducklingscap That's true but they're being hypocritical since they're telling girls to 'dress modestly' otherwise they're 'asking for attention'. Girls wearing whatever clothes they want is also a way of expressing themselves, not just to look good for other dudes.
ARCADEAHRI I am a woman who actually wears no makeup and I wouldn’t classify their wardrobes as “normal.” I wouldn’t go to Fred Meyers wearing even a fraction of their accessories. I know everyone’s “normal” is different, and that’s okay...but it’s another thing to preach something and not actively show and live it. Another comment said “there is nothing wrong with that” (the way they dress and look) and there isn’t. There isnt anything wrong with wearing blue, right? But if I constantly preached that blue was awful and that it’s not honoring to God to wear blue, and it’s wrong to wear blue, then I wore blue, there would be an issue. Does that make sense? The action itself is not the problem, it’s the action within the context.
Honestly, this is my favorite commentary channel. He’s never needlessly cruel or distracts from the topic at hand with shitty personal attacks. He lays out the facts, expresses his point of view articulately, and you can just tell he puts a ridiculous amount of effort into these videos. It’s not just criticism, it’s intelligent analysis.
They don't seem to use their brain for critical thinking. That sure can clear up a lot of storage to remember verses in order to repeat them like a parrot
A lot of people memorize them, either for Church or home. My cousins participate in this thing called Bible Bowl. It's basically like a trivia competition almost. Memorization of Bible verses is critical for it - you need to be able to hear the start of a verse and know the answer so you can beat the opponents, or if they ask you to recite a verse, you need to be able to recite them. It just takes a lot of time and dedication, but it can be done.
From what I know of the religion, “fearing the Lord” in the Bible doesn’t mean to actually fear him. It just means you should revere him above everything else. There are lots of weird words like that in the bible
Somebody once told her that she couldn't just sit there silently and stare into the camera until it was her turn to talk, so she does the Unobtrusive Confirmation Thing.
wow thats a totally funny thing you said thats original and not what 12 different youtubers have said before you so you can copy to get likes on a youtube video comment section
Ok but the girl defined boyfriend on the far left looks like he thinks even waiting for marriage is too soon for sex. He looks like he thinks they should wait until their 80th anniversary for sex.
Everyone believes that their own culture and brand is superior to some degree. We're all the same. Isn't that why they were mocked in the first place - their culture seems wack compared to mainstream?
@@libertyadams5961 well, yes you make a good point. But there mainly mocked because their culture is in direct opposition to ours. It's not just different. It clashes with the general opinion of life.
Annie T more conservative views are in direct opposition to ours. Although with these two fundamentalists there is a fair amount of opposition in regards to sex, marriage, entertainment, and other things. They are equally memebers of western civilization. Went to school, got a job, pay taxes. Now the churches they go to don’t, by they themselves and the people of the congregation do. We are not dealing sith totally separate world views here. They aren’t from Asia or the Middle East, which have separate world views and overall ideologies that often are in direct opposition to our world views and ideologies. Honestly, if you see them as alien, you’re just as radical as them.
@@nerdstorm596 A hypocrite who doesn't know they're a hypocrite nor admits to it is far more dangerous. It is one thing to teach people to be decent. It is a whole different thing to teach people to go against basic human behavior and not acknowledge the ludicrousness of the request.
"okay well how bad can a couple of christian girls be" *"Her life stands as a beacon of hope for anyone struggling with same-sex attraction"* "oh, very"
Wow! Schooling women on what’s actually beautiful, as defined by the Bible, while they sit there in a full face of make up, nails done and trendy clothes on...
As a Christian I still find them hilarious. I wish Christian education on homosexuality wasn’t.. shit. My dads a pastor ... doesn’t know how to feel about homosexuality but he still loves my best friend and her girlfriend 🤧 JUST LOVE PEOPLE AND LET PEOPLE LOVE. Damn
Rebecca A. It’s not fake... or a sin... to love as Jesus loved. HOWEVER... It’s a sin to judge because ONLY God can Judge. James 4:12 *There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbor?* Who’s the real fake Christian here?
It genuinely scares me how they deliberately start a video with psychological manipulation (ie. the fallacy of saying something you agree with like perception of beauty in media is buggered which primes you to accept more extreme beliefs they espouse) to try and hook their viewers into believing their madness
This video reminds me of a story about my grandmother (also, for clarity’s sake of the story I am male and queer). Me and my grandmother were having a conversation and I don’t remember how it came up, but I told her that me and my fiancé (who is also male) were not having sex till after we married. She looked me straight in the eye and said, “No hun, you got to test drive that car before purchasing it.” Needless to say I was quite flabbergasted. Note that my grandmother wasn’t a hippy or anything, she was very stereotypically a grandmother. Anyway, pointless story, but a funny one.
European? Europe mostly stuck with marry if you get pregnant but weren't as strict on Christianity as a whole. Still, older relatives can be surprising, my aunt and uncle liked that I was closer to my boyfriend than I thought would be "normal" for Christians.
That´s actually really good advise, i feel like sexuality is such an important side of relationships that commiting to someone without knowing if you´re compatible in that sense can be a big mistake
@@jadenasselstine9953 Yes, be very cautious with god`s feelings and preferences cuz if you upset him then well ......... lets just say it would have been better if you had never been born at all
@@Mo0nL1ght-Radio yeah Christians say they don't FEAR fear god, but they are absolutely terrified of the repercussions of upsetting god (eg; being cast to hell for eternal torture). Fearing the consequence of angering god is identical to fearing god itself.
I don’t believe in god but I don’t care if you do. But like nobody should have to fear anything or anyone IMO. My son is a beautiful boy who only deserves love and that’s how I feel about all children which is why I’m working to be a foster mom. These kids need love not “the fear of god” or the fear of being abandoned or anything of that nature. Say some stupid shit like “well then you’re gonna go to hell and burn forever” like my mom used to tell me and you’re sure to have a child who definitely thinks organized religion is 100% a cult
Actually I watch girl defined reaction videos specifically by formerly religious people as a cathartic process of overcoming my fundamentalist upbringing. I was raised in purity culture which paints women in such a bad light, like virginity equals worth and women should aspire to be "helpmates" not individuals. Girl defined isn't saying anything new and their platform is designed to appeal to and draw in young women viewers who are seeking advice for adolescence and identity issues. So the reaction videos are kind of like a buffer between the toxicity of girl defined's message, humerously refuting their rhetoric. I find it cathartic. I wish I had reaction videos to the radical religious messages of my youth.
That’s something I’ve seen a lot of. I know Jimmy Snow (Mr. Atheist) was brought up in a strict religious household and he’s talked about how harmful that upbringing has been, even after he left. A lot of people who respond to that Jehovah show are like that too, people who were former members of the religion as children and as adults describe it as a cult-like vibe.
I am a Christian in the south and I see this type of Christianity everywhere, and it tends to be what is portrayed and mocked in media (which some of the mockery I totally understand); however, the way I view my walk with Christ doesn't revolve around waiting till marriage to kiss or anything like that (superficial showy things) but rather showing God's love by loving those around me to the best of my ability. A lot of the evangelical christianity tends to be more about showing off what a good christian/ person you are rather than genuinely loving others and developing a close relationship with Christ. It is important for churches and christian communities to remember that they are not immune to corruption, and to not create a sense of superiority, because we are all sinners and saved by God. Jesus hung out with and was friends with the people society deemed "bad" and his disciples were mostly ordinary people. Idk if this makes any sense, but this is the way I view the world
I see this too often myself! It is sad that Christ’s message is perverted to become a status symbol to make people feel they are superior :/ beware the Pharisees and all
I agree, Christians do tend to focus on a lot of unnecessary things but people should be free to express their own opinions, likes and dislikes. I totally see how waiting till marriage could go absolutely beautiful but I also so how it could go wrong. What I'm trying to say is that absolutely nobody has the right to judge these girls for their choice, they found it as something that glorifies God in *THEIR* walk with Christ and that doesn't meet other people's standards, so what? No need to side eye them cause you don't understand
That's fair! Though, I do hate how people make it seem like you need to be religious to be morally good... like- religion shouldn't make you a decent person. You should already be a decent person without the worshipping of god.
My biggest problem with Girl Defined was the lack of self-awareness of the scope of their religion. Sure, THEY believe in the Trinity and the Bible, but most people don't. They treat their beliefs like they are objective when they are actually subjective. It's an issue most religious outreach groups struggle with: they hate to admit that the majority of the world doesn't have the same beliefs, and that they need an argument other than "God intended it" when they preach a message to a world with thousands of gods.
Yah however there talking to Christians are you saying that modern Helenics are wrong for talking about Greek mythology because most of the world doesn't practices hellenic beliefs
@@willardjr6257 I'm not just talking about Girl Defined. The main problem is that arguments against other religions and secularism usually boil down to the same reasoning that Christians use when talking to each other. I guess I should have put my points in a different order, i.e. Christian outreach groups relying on the same rhetoric as groups like Girl Defined, but oh well.
@@andrewmandrona7891 ok that makes a lot more sense I agree with you on that aspect of things and I after rea reading I do see What you were talking about
The majority is actually Christians. It's the largest religion in the world. Also, offcoarse they would talk about it in a factual way. They believe in it. This argument doesn't hold up in many conversations. They are also preaching to Christian women. How else would you want them to speak? Religious people speak in the way they do because they perceive it as the truth just like how anyone speaks about something they believe. Although I do think that the way girldefined speak about their beliefs is unnerving as they seem to have an incredibly close minded view on those who have different beliefs which isn't the best way to preach or teach.
@@fbsie8579 So, I already commented about the rhetoric they're using. Please read that one. Other than that, I think you have a troubling misconception about the world. There are only about two billion Christians in the world, and those groups are further splintered with Protestant and Catholic groups. Overall this is less than 1/3 of the world population, far from most, and Christianity probably won't be the top religion much longer due to how fast Islam is growing.
okay are they like.... abnormally tall or something?when you show them talking to ppl on the street theyre taller than some of the guys and they absolutely TOWER over the women. is it because they are full of jesus's love to help them stretch closer to the lort
The way you explained how they're not countercultural just because they're not necessarily mainstream or belonging to a majority belief was so great. It's something I've felt when I hear people say things like that, but couldn't quite figure out how to verbalize.
Our “facts” are filtered through by our observation. Sadly, that’s the best tool we got. Might I remind you that for quite a good while this tool of ours seemed to claim the earth was flat. Is there a god? That subject is a bit too big for our tools.
@@skycastrum5803 We claimed the earth was flat around the same time where religion was accepted as fact so of course "science" and "facts" would be ridiculously wrong back in ancient times. Now we can just assume things that are too ridiculous to be real to be false, like heaven and hell or witchcraft or 72 genders, etc.
Ashley Johansson: Just give it enough time. Eventually, we’ll have lived in “ancient times.” (Or who knows? Meteor/rapture, lol.) What seems ridiculous changes all the time. And honestly, while majority opinion is good to know and understand why, it’s a far cry from a decent judge of truth. So, while it may mean very little in the long run, you can place your bet but I’ll keep an open mind on this issue.
Who says they are wearing it for beauty? And if beauty doesnt matter then it doesnt matter if they are wearing makeup or not. I wear make up because its like clothes to me I like to Express myself through it and feel more like i am portraying myself.
Oh also, at 24:06 they talk about how we aren't being taught to not have sex before marriage. That's not true, I live in the southern united states and abstinence-only sex ed is still taught widespread here
@@absoluteunit240 because white christian parents are worried about their "angel kids", who are already addicted to nicotine and commenting on girls bodies anyway
Interestingly enough, I was raised in Texas, as a homeschooled Christian child. I was taught that it was probably better to not have sex until marriage. Once I realized that marriage was fucked, I decided to still wait until I found the man I would be with forever. It just seems interesting to me.
I'm in Western Washington, which is generally considered pretty liberal, and we had almost abstinence only sex ed as well. There was one day we talked about birth control, and then it was back to not having sex and the horrors of STDs. Our final presentation was about the benefits of abstinence until marriage. We specifically were not allowed to make a presentation about safe sex, someone asked. It had to be abstinence.
@@absoluteunit240 I'm guessing that it is because the Bible was created before sexual protection was. Abstinence was/is a method to protect people from STDs & unwanted pregnancy when there were few/no alternatives. However abstinence is now in the Bible, and nobody is radical enough to change the Bible (except perhaps Thomas Aquinas but he is long dead now). Having said that, I'm not American so there may be culture factors that I'm unaware of.
I can't remember the name of the study. But they asked a bunch of people who were teens in the 1920's about sex (so they were like 80 years old when they did the survey). And they found that over 80% of them had sex before marriage, the talked openly about it. So, the idea that people "Waited until marriage" has most likely never really been that popular. The reality is people have sex before marriage...and those they should know how to have that sex in a safe way.
And this is exactly what turned me away from Christianity. The whole "do as I say, not as I do" crap was annoying and I saw through it from an early age. Many members of the churches I have attended, prayed on Sunday for all their sins they did Monday through Saturday to only repeat them again starting Monday. If you can't even abide by your own beliefs, why force it on others? Many of them sending their pregnant teens to their "aunt's house" for 6 months or even forcing them to have an abortion because, God forbid the congregation find out what their daughter did. A distant cousin of mine got knocked up when she was 15. Her dad forced her to have an abortion and that really fucked her head up for a long time. I was about 7 years older and tried to get her into counseling, and her father refused to allow it then banned me from seeing her ever again. He also threatened to call the cops on me if I visited my aunt, his mother-in-law, who lived next door. A true psychopath who also abused his kids and pets. Who works that hard to keep their child mentally fucked up in the head? A Christian. As soon as she turned 18, she married the first boy to come along and "take her away." She is now a single mom who can barely keep a job at Walmart.
It was "reasonable" back in the days of the Bible because it was important to know who is offspring of which man. Children were the sign of blessing and the social security. The social structure relied on inheritance, not only in the sense of wealth, but also honor and status. If you know your children exactly (adoption or fostering weren't that much of a thing you know) you secure you heritage. All restriction on the agency of women was essentially about this - if you (as in the men) kept the wives in order and make them stay at home, there will much less likely be "accidents". It was practical, not so much about chastity. Marriage was practical, not romantic or even religious, it was an agreement between fathers. Makes sense if you know the full stage there. Now where the problems rise is when you try to implement this in modern times and make it about "purity".
That's the tricky part about defining "traditions" and comparing the present to anything in the past. We seem to think that traditions and beliefs are stagnant and constant but they are frequently changing all the time too. So what they see as classic, traditional, and "standing the test of time" just isn't nearly as consistent historically as they want to present it. Hell, most of the fundamentalist bologna they spout is a pretty recent invention reinforced by the wave of conservatism often attached to Raegan and new-age conservatism of the late 20th century.
So it's only been rumored that Beth's husband went to a conversion camp but he's adtessee it and said otherwise. Also, in very fundamentalis t families children do not have to be gay to be sent to a camp. Parents fearing their children aren't gender conforming enough or interested enough in the opposite sex can send their children away. Just to be sure apparently 🤷♀️
Thank you so much for not just crapping on religion. I think a lot of people take that route and I think it’s the easy one. You’re always so balanced and that’s why I enjoy watching you.
I love religion in a anthropological way, how they helped our world to become what it is today; blah-blah, cant understand how ppl dont respect others belief
Dio Brando I mean, I’m not sure how the talking point is stupid? We shouldn’t be doing things like we did 2000 years ago? Or taking everything in the bible literally? I mean, I’ve read it, and some of that shit is crazy, and I’m pretty sure everyone alive should be stoned 5 times over if every single part is taken literally.
Girl Defined is my aesthetic, honestly. I love horrid, wicked things presented in a cutesy manner. Gotta wrap hate and narcissism in a pink blanket and put a bow on top 💝 Great job done, my dude
as someone who grew up religious, they’re also just absolutely archetypal “Christian girls.” like i know ten people who are exactly like them, and there are multiple times one of them has been like “wanna grab coffee!?” with this exact fun & light vibe, with some intense “i need to save your soul” subtext.
@@leannameents8309 I take it as a subtle caution. You know why you should do the things God tells you to do because it's the right thing to do, yet you also do it because he's very vengeful as well. A good way to think of this is like a child being fearful of the punishment he'll get if he fights with his brother.
Everyone: I don't like people who always quote Bible verses, shove religion down people's throats, and then say they are in the right. Girl Defined: Hmm...
As a person who previously religious, I find two things troubling: 1) GirlDefined assumes that one is inherently going to become bad if they step out line with religion in any way whatsoever. This mindset really freaked with my head, making me thing that I was destined for a life of hell because I thought watching Johnny Sins was a good way to use my lonely times. (Spoiler: I am not a coke addicted hooker. Thanks mom.) 2) The broader Christian community is so fear-mongering . They create a bubble of thought instead of giving you any tools to defend yourself from the true evils of the world. Instead of telling you how to avoid sexual harassment, they tell you "you shouldn't have been in a situation where you could have been harassed in the first place". Instead of teaching you to speak up, they teach you to "obey your elders". This creates a horrid dynamic where quite frankly, you're setting people up not the explore things for themselves and stripping them of their problem solving capabilities. But then again. This thoughts are my own.
From your first point they think people become bad if they step out of their definition of "Christianity", because am sure the wont acknowledge other religion.
Your second point is why a lot of kids feel so terrified to tell leaders in their church/their own parents about sexual misconduct held by other leaders because they’re considered guilty of sinful acts.. which is so damn dangerous. They get away with it for so long because the act of sex is so taboo, impure, and we never were educated in how to defend ourselves from sex that is actually wrong. I was sexually abused by a church leader and didn’t come out with it until recently. When I did tell them, who hadn’t gone to church since my abuse, they turned it so it wasn’t their fault and blamed me for ruining my abuser’s covenant of marriage and I should be ashamed of myself. I ruined their relationship with God.. being a sexy little 15 year old girl who was his student…? They’re all fucked in the brain regarding sex and the inherent power dynamic that older men have over the youth by talking about such vulnerable things with them and forming their minds to become easy targets for such abuse.
@@amandasantana5725 thats actually scarily close to what happened to me. My parents are both very religious and have never taken my story to a more higher place than the church’s senior pastor, thus no one in the church knows what happened to me or a few other girls at church, and on top of that, that pastor is still at that church.
Big Boy Dan Cannon I wasn’t really taking a crack at staying a virgin until marriage, I just mean that the girls are pretty nuts for refusing to kiss. You basically can’t do anything remotely intimate because it goes agains god or something.
"Basing their identity on their looks" - seems like these girls are well into the looks thing: hair, makeup, clothes, jewelry, and dare I say it, false eyelashes.
Not to mention telling girls and women how to dress. It doesn’t matter what’s on the outside, you say? Then why are you telling women what they should look like to be “godly?” Does a woman’s appearance matter or not?
Sorry god said (perhaps you know this psalm 😂😂quote 👆🏻)‘ the eye is the lamp of the body if eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light’ so perfect excuse for fake eyelashes
@@agirlinsearchof9057 That's a good question. God obviously sees *beyond* one's appearance (bc he sees the heart), and from there we can say what matters is the intention in your heart to do said action. There are many examples of this principle in the Bible, like when Jesus taught the public about judging. Many digest it as him saying not to judge, when actually judging is very important & effective when done right.. Jesus didn't say not to judge, but to inspect why you're judging in the first place- to help someone or just to feel superior over them when you're just as flawed (the speck in the eye comparison)? That kinda thing. This translates into clothing by dressing not for vanity, impressing ppl you don't know, or putting your ultimate confidence in the makeup/sexy clothes, but knowing you're beautiful as you are on your own apart from these items.
I remember the days when I would call it "struggling with same sex attraction." *sigh* Me now: "accepting and thoroughly enjoying my same sex attraction." ;)
I've been a Christian since I was 17, & honestly, Girl Defined's legalistic approach bothers me a great deal. I have found that when you welcome people as they are, it helps build meaningful relationships with everyone regardless of beliefs. I have friends of varying sexualities, walks of life, etc & we've had many honest, respectful conversations about touchy subjects, like religion, social issues, etc. What keeps our friendship strong, is our openness and our willingness to say that we will always be there for each other, no matter what we choose. The world is changing everyday, & will never again be what it was 2000-3000 years ago, & it's important to meet it where it's at now & not force people to change. In other words, be a good listener, and an understanding person. I don't blame Strange Aeons for where she is now. I hope she finds what she needs & lives a long, blessed life. I just hope Girl Defined reevaluates someday. That's all I hope for: for good things and teachable moments to happen.
I've met some Mormons who took the time to learn the local language so that we could intellectually debate and talk. They didn't manage to convince me, but they were respectful, kindhearted and almost made me wish I could believe it because their community seemed loving. IMO that is the way a believer should behave. Be a beacon. Leave the judging to God (Or if you don't believe in a God, leave the judging of others alone) and just try to show kindness to everyone. These girls freak me out and are very much not behaving in an appealing way. I grew up Christian myself, and when the man who basically saved my sisters life got thrown out of the church for being gay, that's the day I decided to leave that church myself. 2 years after, in a different church, I finally lost my religion entirely. I recognize what isn't being said behind all the stuff they DO say and it's quite frankly, frightening. The subtext is a lot more culty and judgy than the friendly face they painted onto it.
"Only God can judge.... unless I'm a young privileged white girl, then I can do it too". The hypocrisy is insane. Great video my dude. As always. Keep up the amazing content
@Eddie Sam you don't have to personally know someone to make a judgement on the content they produce. They constantly judge people in their videos for doing things that are entirely natural.
@@eddiesam8539 you realize that their page does show people a look into their lives and what kind of person they are. You can make assumptions about people if you have stuff by them to go off. And they literally have several videos on them judging what they think is worthy/pure. They are not God but they sure as act like it.
Talking about feminism whilst strongly advocating for a system written by highly patriarchal men 2000 years ago without a shadow of self-awareness is the definition of irony.
@@wrappedaroundmyfinger i is illegal by Islamic (the caliphate) law to be gay in any Islamic country, at best you will be forced to have gender reassignment surgery, at worst you are thrown of sky scrapers. in Islam a woman is by the very law inferior to a man. and this is in current year. how on earth is Christianity worse than Islam?
Peter Lock Bolvig you are not wrong here but one should aknowlege that many people here strive for equality in our society. And ours happens to be based on christianity. You can always point to others and say „they are doing more terrible stuff than we so we don‘t have to look at our own flaws“. Do you see my point here? Even though a lot of the christian society has undergone modernization, many fundamental christians will still condem behaviour or laws that are nowadays widely accepted. Look at russia, a christian country where homosexuality is still punishable (and sometimes gay people just „disappear“) and womens rights are not upto the standarts as in europe or the states. Fundamental cheistians troughout europe and the americas don‘t put women equal to men as in „listen to your husband, you should be a homemaker and a childmaker“, because the bible states that women are lesser beings. many lgbt+ people from these fundamental christian groups suffer greatly due to the identity chrisis they have to go trough or they are completely shunned. Also taking away the right of women to decide over their own body is based on christian ideas as one can see in the „pro-life“ discussions currently ongoing in the states. It is by all means not a black and white discussion and my argument here is of course leaned into the extreme but it‘s nevertheless a counterargument and i hope it does give some insight in why some people in the western society are so oical against christianity.
Can you seriously be imagine though some random being like 'you give me your dna so I can be a transphobic to your face' ripp no that's not how the world works buddy
Christians: HUMANS ARE SO COMPLEX THAT WE COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN MADE BY A GOD! Also Christians: bolt no go with bolt like boy no go with boy. This is a very reasonable comparison bc humans have the same emotional capacity and reason for being as nuts and bolts.
Humans are beyond complex. But no God nor gods should tell you what you already know. It just explains how unique humans are when looking at us on a grander scale.
Why I waited two years after marriage until breathing in the same room as my husband so even his air doesn’t get inside of me before Jesus says it’s alright.
A lot of people ask what the meaning of life is. What is our purpose? Personally, I think we should be asking ourselves 'What is my purpose? What gives my life meaning?
Not even sure where in the bible it says to punish slaves for any reason, pretty sure they said the slaves shouldn't lash out *in the context* that revenge is never justified. It's a misconception that it's homophobic as well. It's a ton of stupid people trying to get their beliefs out by misinterpreting a vague message. It says lust is a sin, not homosexuality.
@@dude8171 Agreed. Slavery and the Bible is quite the complicated matter, but the slavery practised in the 1800s is something its authors would condemn.
Thank you for being so respectful of Christianity in your video whilst still making fair criticisms when you came across the opportunity, it was surprisingly refreshing.
I was raised this way, and the words I heard most were, "You cannot be in the world and of God. You must choose one." I think this mindset is why they have such an anticulture, antisociety opinion. I wasn't even allowed to listen to "secular" music, wear "secular" clothes, participate in "society" in Christmas parties, Halloween, be friends with nonChristians, it was the idea that you can only be Christian, or be part of society I thought I had to reject the idea of a creator to wear the clothes I like, or listen to music that didn't sound like someone lusting over a mystical being.
I don't understand those Christians who think I can't listen to secular music, wear secular clothes or be in secular events. It depends. That verse meant something different 😑. It means you shouldn't have the same futile mindset the world has or be pressed to follow the crowd. It means to please God over man bc your accountability in the end is towards God, not men. I can still listen to EDM for example.
Out of pure curiosity, if not too personal, which denomination was your family from? Anyway, your experience is truly awful. I wonder at what point was it forgotten who Jesus spent time with. Cause it definitely wasn't the most "pure and noble", nor the pious and godly. He didn't place conditions. He literally preached about how a frowned upon Samaritan can be more moral and true than a priest. The notion that only the holiest can for a true congregation was denounced already in the fourth century AD. It truly bugs me how eager some Christians are to ruin faith for some just for the sake of their own fear and "purity".
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Ok big gay
Epix
Do you like nisekoi lol
Love the gay pope james.
That was no comment on celibat, good luck in your love life.
Girl 1: *says something about god"
Girl 2: *head:⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️↘️↗️⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️"mmhmm yeah mhhm"
Ikr that alome makes them cringeworthy to me.
Literally looking at her sister the ENTIRE TIME
Girl 2 is busy memorizing fighting game combos
Mmm yes this is clearly an input for her full meter super
Phineas and Ferb
There's a difference between "we personally find porn bad because of our religious beliefs" and "porn is evil because god says so and a *real woman* shouldn't ever even *think* about a man in that way, that's bad"
I promise you, not all of us try to push our beliefs on to other people like they do.
@@Flapjack505 we know, don't worry ahah , there are twats in every large community, you don't have to feel ashamed on their behalf :> it's just too bad these twats lead to the persecution of millions of people :')
Exactly. I’m a Christian but I still respect the grind
Roneila • thank you (: also it does suck how many people ar killed over Christianity
And it’s also different from ‘porn is bad not because some imaginary magical being says so, but because it directly contributes to increased demand of the sex trafficking of women and children’
Girl 1: *Breathes*
Girl 2: Mmm-hmm.
Girl 1: *Sneezes*
Girl 2: Yep.
Girl 1: *Does literally nothing*
Girl 2: Absolutely!
bobbing head is really hypnotic if you watched the vid on 2x speed
They're just too annoying to watch this video any more. They're like the blonde Hodge twins.
Girl 2 is worse, when girl 1 talks she just says mhm in exact same intervals
Pretty sure this is a church culture thing. I can't sit near a lot of people during sermons because they go "mm...mm-hm...mmh" the whole time. Like they need to actively participate instead of just listening quietly.
@@arolurker3511 They are desperate to participate after being told what to do their whole life :(
I am legit from a religius school , with NUNS actual nuns giving us CLASSES , we showed them this girls and ohhhhh boi they did not like them lol , they said and I quote " they have a cultish mob mentallity , you see someone like this in real life , run the other way ok" lmaoo
I went to 2 different catholic schools and both all the teachers, nuns and priests were like girl defined but wayyyy..more over the top
@@SuicideRedemption y’know, even in people I’ve met irl have had vastly different experiences going to catholic schools. Goes to show that even catholic school staff are as varied in quality as public, I suppose
I think it’s the difference between Catholics and the more evangelical christians. They have very different internal cultures.
😯😂🤣 nuns never hold back 😂🤣
@@SuicideRedemption I guess catholic schools are a mixed bag.
I attended two in which there were a few gay couples, and one I'm pretty sure FTM trans person, no one batted an eye or discriminated in the second one, the first one I was too young to pay attention.
Then, I went to another one where the priests teaching us would literally say shit like "God will punish all gays with eternal hellfire" who would get furious even at an implication that you questioned such a standpoint.
He isn't wrong, it is insane to mash two bolts together. Using a nut and a bolt is the only way. That's what my brother's boyfriends says, and he's a builder, so he should know.
It took me a bit to realize the joke
Oof.
I almost spit out my water laughing. I love this 😂
Oh man, nice
I think he missed the fact there is a "bolt" in the back.
@@TheCinderfang wouldnt there be a nut in the back?
You missed the perfect title:
“Defining girl defined”
Heh nice
it shouldve been “Girl; Defined.”
Meh.
I would have gone with Girl Deconstructed, but that's just me.
girl defined, defined.
I'm agnostic, but every time someone preaches about how "God will judge me" I'm just like..
Exactly. *God* would judge me.
Not you.
Even that argument falls flat. Like if god is really there and all living as people say, then surely he forgives you for not knowing when he didnt provide you with any proof while you were alive 😂😂😂
According to them, god is passive aggressive lol
@@kamilareeder1493 ? I mean.. believing means to have faith without any proof. That's the point. Having proof means having knowledge, which is like the opposite of believe
@@HinaTheBlue I mean I guess, but idk I hear some people phrase more in terms of belief, I grew up jewish so I feel like people always phrased a relationship with god more as a student/teacher thing rather than being based solely on belief . But I see what you mean
They think the all knowing, all powerful God needs their help
Yeah! The Bible says it is not our place to judge others, God judges the heart and we can't see that.
"No woman should think of a man that way."
Lesbians: I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you.
👏
They don’t believe you exist lol
@@xxIluvyouguysxx wait wdym- do they not think gay people exist ??
@@sh4li8i6 well, they view anything regarding the LGBT community or other things related as "sins" so they don't acknowledge their existence. Like a devious behavior but not something that "exist"
@@fiddleheadfern3 SO I DON'T EXIST TO THEM :0
Sister: says literally anything
Other sister: *continuous nodding*
Ahh yes, an unoriginal comment.
@@soosawesome1151 *keeps nodding*
@@soosawesome1151 (looks at the camera, nods, looks back at you, nods again, quotes a random Bible verse)
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@@MercadoMedia *nods at you*
"Why I waited until marriage to expose my ankles to my husband"
Juan Mann what?? That implies you actually met your husband before marriage. Scandalous
Kinky
Proode
Lol
Why I waited until marriage to let my husband look at my phyiscal form
why i waited till marriage to meet my husband
I waited till my wedding day to even know i was bieng married
😂
Why I waited till divorce to learn my husband exists
Why I waited until our children were born before I even met my husband.
arrangement tingz
If you told me that these Girl Defined videos were a recurring sketch from SNL, I'd totally buy it. Lol.
"Welcome to church chat"
I totally thought this was satire when I first saw it.
Well said, Boxxy
I swear that girl on the left acts like me when I’m high and tryna act normal for my mom. “Mmhm... yeah.... definitely.... yeah.... totally” 💀
@@comeatme6ro413 Christians tbh
Well you are an American Person so it should be expected.
She seems to be on speed. I'm waiting for the tearful confession. Or is talking at that super fast rate normal?
Did you even hear what I said?
Um yeah absolutely, nodding
Deadass
I'm a Christian woman, but hearing them repeatedly talk about things such as fearing God makes me very uncomfortable. I think people like this need to be very careful about the way they frame their conversations around religion-- it's not hard to start sounding a bit pompous and "holier than thou". I believe religion is a very personal experience between yourself and God. So instead of putting your energy into telling other people how to act, you should focus on bettering yourself and your own faith/relationship with God.
i wish more christians was as level headed as you and just leave people to their own beliefs rather than tell others what to think. thanks
Isn't fearing god like old testament stuff like you know that was the god that was like I'll kill your whole family and cattle to test your faith or flood the world to teach a point whilst the New testament god was like peace and all loving and the new testament is really the only part Christians should be following cause you know Jesus?
@@danielshore1457 Nowadays, most Christians (myself included) tend to see it as more respect, like that you would give a good father who loves you or even a trusted teacher, rather than the classic meaning of fear like you said. That kind of view of fear of God is mainly an older one, though the idea does still persist in some Christian circles. Sorry if it doesn't make sense or is wrong anyway, I'm just going by my experiences and beliefs as a Christian and beliefs I've seen in other young Christians
This is the healthy mindset I strive to achieve :)
Kathleen KMC I’m fine with people talking about religion on the internet. But as a Christian, it’s just the way that they’re trying to convey the religion is kinda too harsh. Like they’re trying to get people to convert out they’re coming on too harsh or smthn
"I'm sick of these men defining our self worth"
Also...
"Jesus defines our self worth"
Jesus is not a man though lol. He's the son of God. That's much more than just a man.
Jo Pe he still has a dick
The Christian idea is that he is god, so it doesn't count
Edit: I'm not a Christian I'm just saying that is the current belief.
@@j.peters1222 Yeah, but *He's* the *son* of God
@@milkweechris8181 Of course. He made himself a man, it's beyond your comprehension if you don't have the Christian Catholic Catechism.
My sweet little old great grandma born in early 1900 told me way back in the 80's that the only good thing about saving sex for marriage is that you will never know how good it could really be if you end up with a boar... She was a firecracker. She also told me to find a man who cooks and knows how to iron his own shirts, and I did just that. She taught me well.
My Grandma's the same lol i love her
I wish I had a grandma like yours.
Your grandmother sounds amazing.
Your grandmother sounds amazing 🥰 wish I'd had a grandmother like that x
@Dick White I'm sure she can, what they're talking about is a guy who can contribute and not pretend to be an idiot to get out of helping around the house and stuff.
"why I waited until marriage to allow myself within a 10 foot radius of my husband"
"why i waited until marriage to have a husband"
"Why i waited until marriage to meet my husband"
"why i waited until marriage to reveal my physical form to my husband"
Erik C arranged marriage in a nutshell
Why i waited until marriage to get married
I waited until marriage to make eye contact with my husband
I bet it was magical.
l-l-l-lewd!
I'm pretty sure that actually happens in some arranged marriages lol
You made EYE CONTACT with a man?!??!? You HARLOT.
@@yusurkassem4174 I was about to ask if she was a mail-order bride xD
this is definitely off topic from the video, but i like the way you've let more of your personality and sense of humor slip out into your videos recently. i have always enjoyed your videos because they allow me to look at things from a different perspective, but when you allow more of yourself to come through it adds a little something extra. thank you for the great work as always!
Yeah, James thinks he's funny lmao
@prof blank Cuz he is
paige yeah I think it’s pretty cool to see the growth and evolution of his personality over the time I’ve been subbed. I feel like around this time next year he’ll have over a million subs if not a little sooner. I just get that vibe from this channel
@@doootheytho9821 exactly! i do too.
@@hycrp ^
The victim shamed & mocked Marilyn Monroe bc she committed sui**cide in chapter 2 of their book. They glossed over her childhood of her being ra***ped, her mentally unstable mother being hospitalized/unable to care for her, her going from foster home to foster home. "Had she just lived a biblical life she would be alive. If fame, money, looks are so great then why did she ki*ll herself?" There's soo much more if you actually look into them. I reccomend Jimmy Snow's coverage of them where he covers their hideous true selves.
They used Marilyn Monroe for clout. Disgusting
@@canteskuyapete1459 really thats disgusting to you? jeez
wheres all this hate comming from
@@dab4857 Yes, they could have used an example but instead they choose to try and drag someone who is already dead down.
@@dab4857 a broken person lives a complete different life than someone who has is all put together 😂 these clown girls are hypocrites themselves. Good day.
I cannot put into earthly terms how thrilled I am that you are doing this video
666 likes, id like the comment but I can't mess that up
Yes!
cool
Could you then explain it in martian terms?
Seeing Strange Æons in a TRO video suprised me way more than it should have
This autoplayed from one of Strange Æons' videos......it's a sign
the gays supporting the gay economy
TRO and AEons uploaded in the same day only a hour apart, Its a sign from the gay gods
The Voice of Treason I was just waiting for her to pop up, seeing as I wouldn’t know about these random white girls except through my lesbian mother, Lord Farquad
@@tobylarone3460 I thought you meant your acctual mother and was so fucking confused...
when talking about people they deem "ungodly" they sound condescending and holier-than-thou
Well, to be fair, that’s kinda how many atheists talk another Christians, just using the opposite language but not less condescending.
I see it as compassion. They are talking from experience and they want to help.
I'm feeling a light 0 on your comment.
can't tell if this is a defense of Girl Defined or not
mathqueen23 compassion can be passed around without a condescending tone, simple.
I really bugs me when they call themselves ‘girls’ so often when they are, in fact, grown ass women
THIS
I've notice that! It's like a misogyny thing. Like a way of infantilizing women. Like how some men will say females instead of women to dehumanize them, they'll say girls instead of women to make them seem less competent or adult. Weird
chiming in from a fundamentalist background (i used to attend fundamentalist church services with my family, i’m on my own way to find my truth now)… this definitely is a misogyny and fundie-culture thing- at least that i noticed in my former church. women were never referred to as women unless part of a ministry, instead they’d use ‘girls’ or ‘ladies’. only other women would actually say ‘the event for women’ or ‘women’s ministry’ while the men would say ‘girl’s outreach’ or something like that.
It's a pretty common thing to do, but the context definitely matters. They're weirdly methodical about it.
I always felt like they would become Women after marriage and/or s*x... :/
I waited until marriage to kiss
Yeah well I didn’t even look at my husband until we married
I didn’t even meet my husband, he’s a pen pal
If you know you know
When I get home, I'm gonna... *pulls mic closer* I'm gonna kiss you so much. On the mouth.
Ya hear that? *crinkle crinkle* That's the sound of my opening my bible.
Dishes and Digestive Systems
*C H R I S T I A N A S M R*
Lmao I love that’s cringe
Mr Struggle is a guy who looks at porn and is late?
*You're lookin at him*
Crqzy Anime cody and noel😂😂
So much of Girl Defined can be summed up with 1 phrase:
"We live in a society."
yes they do, along with other normal people. Some people these days are stupid. Girls are no different from the other genders in society. They live their lives, thats it.
@@white-war-crewmate ok
@@white-war-crewmate Girl Defined fan gtfo
@@Luke-ep7zk ?
@@white-war-crewmate Are you a fan of girl defined?
Why I waited until marriage to marry my husband
Good job and happy marriage hamster on the internet!
“why i waited till the afterlife for my first kiss”
"why i waited for dementia to settle in to look at my husband for the first time"
🤣🤣🤣
I just spit milk thru my nose.....
I got pregnant with my 4 kids by a turkey baster so I’d never have a first time with my husband.
At least you saw a great Ricky Gervais work!...
Well I didn't expect existential crisis in the first 30 seconds. Thanks for that
He is not exurb1a or exurb2a
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If you want to experience multiple existential crises, then you should watch exurb1a.
Good thing I already had one(it was pretty nasty) a while before I knew this video existed.
Eman 😂😂🤣🤣🤣truee
I don't understand how people find security in fear though.
Me either. I was scared shitless of nuns and god for a very long time . Even though my parents taught me a loving and non judging god I spent a lot of time at my dads parents house who were extremely Irish catholic which is all about fear and guilt ( they charged later in life but through my informative years they really impacted me). Every Sunday I was petrified to go to church that’s finally my parents stood up to them and I was no longer forced to go. I had a prayer book and spoke with “god” every night and ask him all sorts of questions I never got answers to. When I got older I researched the Bible and made me hate the Christian god more and more . I am trying to get more spiritual because I do believe their are “gods “ and maybe a head honcho . Anyways I will never understand feeling safe while being in fear .
when people say "fear god" they dont mean fear as in "ah I'm scared" they mean fear as respect
don't know why they didn't just say "respect" in the bible, but hey-ho
@@tiernanhalvey7758 Yeah, but it's a respect based out of fear. Christians don't respect their God because they think he's kind and loving, they respect him because they're terrified of the repercussions of not respecting him. It's basically a mainstream and modernized version of "leader by strength" and not "leader by capability".
There was a lemon demon background line from his Ancient Aliens song that I find sums it up.
I am paraphrasing here but
"Better evil gods than no gods".
Tiernan Halvey Probably because it’s been translated like 5 times over with the first half written in Hebrew and the second half written several hundred years later in Greek. Gonna have some things lost in translation there.
“I’m tired of these men defining our worth”
* proceeds to claim what defines your worth as a woman *
Funny how they claim it isn’t “lady like” for you to experience anything that can happen to make you learn” but WILL claim what is lady like due to “gods followings
Last time I checked is that god loves all no matter what you do...
Certain types of Christians can have a certain idea on how you should live your life as a person but can guilt trip you in the kind of way to the point of where there isn’t too much freedom and maturity for you to learn the mistakes and grow.
I wouldn’t say all but some do.
•••••• li4nn3.5iu •••••• Exactly. I’m Christian, but I know that, as humans, we aren’t perfect. Girl Defined is such a twisted idea of how to teach Christianity. The goal of finding Jesus and accepting him isn’t about walking on eggshells and beating yourself up about anything bad you do. It’s about accepting the fact that you’ve sinned, asking for forgiveness, and moving on to try and avoid those same mistakes. Even without the Bible, humans have a moral compass. We know right from wrong, so trying to teach it to a person is already a stupid concept.
Edit: No longer Christian since writing this, but still applies
Well to be fair She isnt letting a Man Define your worth.. She is doing it for you.
Per God's word. Not theirs.
Proceeds to recite the words of a man who defined your worth
They both are wearing so much make up and perfect hair. Perfect clothes. Looks like rich backgrounds. I just couldn't take them seriously.....
Rich? Lol you can find clothes like that at cheap stores and buy makeup for $5 and less
just because rthey don't have any style doesnt mean they dont have money. You'd be surprised at how many well off people have no or poor fashion sense.
So what if they're rich? What's your point?
They are very well off. They once tried to say they were poor because their parents GAVE one of them a car that was like 10 years old instead of new. Their parents own several businesses, the own big, nice houses & they love to talk about how they 'walked away' from modeling careers because Jesus. Which is fine, but not everyone is in a place to just turn down work without yaknow, starving. They consantly are asking for money & selling stuff at crazy prices they can't justify. They like to travel out of state to buy thrift store clothes poor people like me actually need, only to mark it up 500% & sell it online. Plus on their mom's side their great-grandpa was NAZI MAYOR who owned a giant villa in Austria. Bethany & her husband went & visited his grave & the family home while waxing nostalgic on social media about the 'good old days' when nazi-great-gpa ran the town & how glad they were that the house was still in the family. Gross. I have family that were Gypsy refugees, bet they had houses they wanted to keep as well, but that's a whole other thing.
They remind me alot of Classically Abby, they often say feminism=bad because they think that's why women feel pressure to work. I feel pressure to work because I enjoy not starving & sleeping indoors. The live so high above normal they have no idea what motivates real women. You don't have to be a billionaire to be incredibly naive about socio-economic realities I guess.
@Harvey Zykowski Thank you
Girl Defined is essentially the sugar-coated version of "conservatism is the new counter culture."
Biggest oxymoron of all time
Christians have been straying from God and following what non Christians are doing since the beginning of time. It is possible that that is what they are referring to rather than the general "going against societal norms", but idk.
imagine my shock
Does america even have any form of counter culture? It certainly isn't being liberal or conservative (since most counter cultures don't have their own news stations and aren't part of the culture as a whole).
@@noobiusmaximus6314 anarchism and certain aspects of metal
It was that cyberbully Cody Ko
mr xawkify I wheezed lol
Was looking for this😂
mr xawkify literally did a u turn
@@ryugasamurai7217 on some Bourne Identity shit
that mr.struggle?
I’m a Christian. But I’ve never been able to get through an entire Girl Defined video because.... ugh. I don’t think I even need to explain.
Morgan Freeman I’m Christian too and I can relate.
I’m a Christian as well, I feel the focus is on themselves and not on God. I feel the same, I can’t get through 5 min of their videos.
Imagine being Christian
They attacked another Christian TH-camr like a year ago I think it was. God Is Gray is her name. She's very sweet and genuinely kind. She saw how people were trolling them and decided to reach out and offer support. Bethany was like "Oh, yes, we're very grateful!" but then that same week came out with a video saying very disgusting things and untruths about GodIsGray. Jimmy from Mr.Atheist is very good friends with GodIsGray and he was absolutely furious about this and made a video about it which is how I found out.
Im Christian too and they are basically just 'Im using God as an excuse to be stupid, and to show what I think is the only right thing, even though we are just in Denial'
girl defined: girls should not put their looks first
girl defined two clips later: waring 3 layers of makeup
*wearing
To be fair a lot of people like make up as art or form of expression yourself and not necessarily because of the looks
Ducklingscap That's true but they're being hypocritical since they're telling girls to 'dress modestly' otherwise they're 'asking for attention'. Girls wearing whatever clothes they want is also a way of expressing themselves, not just to look good for other dudes.
they never said to not to look but to not put it first
Good point
For not caring about appearances they do themselves up a lot.
Katelyn Atwood I thought the same.
gractendo There isn’t anything wrong with it, there is if you’re being hypocritical about it. Which they usually are.
They also model...
Uh, not really? They wear normal clothes and minimal makeup. Are you even a girl lol?
ARCADEAHRI I am a woman who actually wears no makeup and I wouldn’t classify their wardrobes as “normal.” I wouldn’t go to Fred Meyers wearing even a fraction of their accessories. I know everyone’s “normal” is different, and that’s okay...but it’s another thing to preach something and not actively show and live it. Another comment said “there is nothing wrong with that” (the way they dress and look) and there isn’t. There isnt anything wrong with wearing blue, right? But if I constantly preached that blue was awful and that it’s not honoring to God to wear blue, and it’s wrong to wear blue, then I wore blue, there would be an issue. Does that make sense? The action itself is not the problem, it’s the action within the context.
Honestly, this is my favorite commentary channel. He’s never needlessly cruel or distracts from the topic at hand with shitty personal attacks. He lays out the facts, expresses his point of view articulately, and you can just tell he puts a ridiculous amount of effort into these videos. It’s not just criticism, it’s intelligent analysis.
As a Christian myself, how the hell do people remember Bible Verses? Aren’t there like 7,000 of them?
I was thinking that lol
They don't seem to use their brain for critical thinking. That sure can clear up a lot of storage to remember verses in order to repeat them like a parrot
And they take things out of context.
A lot of people memorize them, either for Church or home. My cousins participate in this thing called Bible Bowl. It's basically like a trivia competition almost. Memorization of Bible verses is critical for it - you need to be able to hear the start of a verse and know the answer so you can beat the opponents, or if they ask you to recite a verse, you need to be able to recite them. It just takes a lot of time and dedication, but it can be done.
JustinWasHere, Probably I never was good at memorizing them or anything else
"A woman who fears the Lord is to be praised"
Yes. Let us *fear* our benevolent creator.
From what I know of the religion, “fearing the Lord” in the Bible doesn’t mean to actually fear him. It just means you should revere him above everything else. There are lots of weird words like that in the bible
@@regularly_priced That's exactly what it means. And precisely why uneducated people can't understand texts older than the 1970s
@@regularly_priced Superstitious rubbish...
@@lidmc796 How to you know that ‘that’s exactly what it means’?
Can the second girl stop boping up and down and going mhm every 2 seconds?
She probally did that all of her live
Thats a hard thing to change
Somebody once told her that she couldn't just sit there silently and stare into the camera until it was her turn to talk, so she does the Unobtrusive Confirmation Thing.
Maybe she's actually a religion spewing robot
RIGHT? Drives me nuts
wow thats a totally funny thing you said thats original and not what 12 different youtubers have said before you so you can copy to get likes on a youtube video comment section
"Is this Heaven?"
"No! This is Patrick!"
Patrick Star is my one true God.
Hahahahahaha
✋😤👌
Lmao
😂😂😂😂
To quote Girl Defined:
Mmhmm *Nodding*
Mmm
Mmhm yeah *Vapid smile, swift nodding*
Yeah mhmm
Mmmhmm *Nod*
Absolutely! *Nodding*
Ok but the girl defined boyfriend on the far left looks like he thinks even waiting for marriage is too soon for sex. He looks like he thinks they should wait until their 80th anniversary for sex.
😂😂😂
“The ideal image of pure femininity”
*Shows Ricardo Juice nun*
I wish I could subscribe twice
Same XD
yep
The ricardo juice nun is my favorite tiktok
yeah but the editor did that, not him.
"culture and brands are terrible unless it's our culture and our brand then that's god's work baby!"
Everyone believes that their own culture and brand is superior to some degree. We're all the same. Isn't that why they were mocked in the first place - their culture seems wack compared to mainstream?
@@libertyadams5961 well, yes you make a good point. But there mainly mocked because their culture is in direct opposition to ours. It's not just different. It clashes with the general opinion of life.
Annie T more conservative views are in direct opposition to ours.
Although with these two fundamentalists there is a fair amount of opposition in regards to sex, marriage, entertainment, and other things. They are equally memebers of western civilization. Went to school, got a job, pay taxes. Now the churches they go to don’t, by they themselves and the people of the congregation do. We are not dealing sith totally separate world views here. They aren’t from Asia or the Middle East, which have separate world views and overall ideologies that often are in direct opposition to our world views and ideologies.
Honestly, if you see them as alien, you’re just as radical as them.
@@nerdstorm596lmao no, i aint' tellin anyone how to live
@@nerdstorm596 A hypocrite who doesn't know they're a hypocrite nor admits to it is far more dangerous. It is one thing to teach people to be decent. It is a whole different thing to teach people to go against basic human behavior and not acknowledge the ludicrousness of the request.
"okay well how bad can a couple of christian girls be"
*"Her life stands as a beacon of hope for anyone struggling with same-sex attraction"*
"oh, very"
👳
you're the same gal that made the mari0 tas along with masterjun
@@vermont005050
Can God make me cis pls?
i feel you syno, just keep fighting through and one day we'll be who we were always meant to be :)
Wow! Schooling women on what’s actually beautiful, as defined by the Bible, while they sit there in a full face of make up, nails done and trendy clothes on...
Exactly lmao, they’re not practising what they preach
As a Christian I still find them hilarious. I wish Christian education on homosexuality wasn’t.. shit. My dads a pastor ... doesn’t know how to feel about homosexuality but he still loves my best friend and her girlfriend 🤧
JUST LOVE PEOPLE AND LET PEOPLE LOVE. Damn
Rebecca A. Are you joking? Cause if you aren’t then you probably are too. It’s not right to judge out loud.
Rebecca A. It’s not fake... or a sin... to love as Jesus loved. HOWEVER... It’s a sin to judge because ONLY God can Judge.
James 4:12 *There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbor?*
Who’s the real fake Christian here?
@@shieunlee9988 yes sis educate this faker dakers
@@shieunlee9988 damn. Gotem
**agrees in not religious**
Every time I see strange Æons I feel happy
Me every time I see Jimmy snow
dan choen same I love her content
Fraser and James
@@cherryblossom1460 do you have the special Wii motion plus inside? 🤔
*”Hello son come have some lentils for dinner”*
I like how you put girls in quotation marks like they might actually be aliens
Plot twist: They _are_ aliens!
Nah as I’m an alien myself, these are just misguided individuals.
My initials are E.T. Yet no one can pick up on the obvious signs I’m showing.
@@Sydney_Angelyt this is the best reply ever created
Would explain A LOT.
Cassandra Tafoya exactly. they are married women in their 30s. they aren’t girls lol.
It genuinely scares me how they deliberately start a video with psychological manipulation (ie. the fallacy of saying something you agree with like perception of beauty in media is buggered which primes you to accept more extreme beliefs they espouse) to try and hook their viewers into believing their madness
That’s the con artist mode of operation!! A great tool it seems.
It's like Andrew Tate peppering his misogyny with some truths anyone would agree with just to get that $50/mth from incels
This video reminds me of a story about my grandmother (also, for clarity’s sake of the story I am male and queer). Me and my grandmother were having a conversation and I don’t remember how it came up, but I told her that me and my fiancé (who is also male) were not having sex till after we married. She looked me straight in the eye and said, “No hun, you got to test drive that car before purchasing it.”
Needless to say I was quite flabbergasted. Note that my grandmother wasn’t a hippy or anything, she was very stereotypically a grandmother. Anyway, pointless story, but a funny one.
European? Europe mostly stuck with marry if you get pregnant but weren't as strict on Christianity as a whole. Still, older relatives can be surprising, my aunt and uncle liked that I was closer to my boyfriend than I thought would be "normal" for Christians.
Coolest. Grandmother. Ever.
sounds like something somebody on my moms side would say lmao
That´s actually really good advise, i feel like sexuality is such an important side of relationships that commiting to someone without knowing if you´re compatible in that sense can be a big mistake
Yes because as a parent I want my kid to never be able to talk to me about anything and be scared of me.... makes perfect sense 🙄
@@jadenasselstine9953 Yes, be very cautious with god`s feelings and preferences cuz if you upset him then well ......... lets just say it would have been better if you had never been born at all
@@Mo0nL1ght-Radio yeah Christians say they don't FEAR fear god, but they are absolutely terrified of the repercussions of upsetting god (eg; being cast to hell for eternal torture).
Fearing the consequence of angering god is identical to fearing god itself.
It's the perfect mix if you want to create a person with absolutely no confidence and fear for everything in life
Believe me it works!!! :D
I don’t believe in god but I don’t care if you do. But like nobody should have to fear anything or anyone IMO. My son is a beautiful boy who only deserves love and that’s how I feel about all children which is why I’m working to be a foster mom. These kids need love not “the fear of god” or the fear of being abandoned or anything of that nature. Say some stupid shit like “well then you’re gonna go to hell and burn forever” like my mom used to tell me and you’re sure to have a child who definitely thinks organized religion is 100% a cult
According to them, God is a pyscopath lmao
"I never have sex and it's definitely not because I'm alone and sad. I promise. It's just because I have restraint."
Same! 🤣
I have a ton of restraint yanawhaimsayin
Same
I guess we all have a very *cough cough* high level of restraint...
Don't need to talk about your bondage fetish on here hun, we already know...
I love your profile picture
😁
Actually I watch girl defined reaction videos specifically by formerly religious people as a cathartic process of overcoming my fundamentalist upbringing. I was raised in purity culture which paints women in such a bad light, like virginity equals worth and women should aspire to be "helpmates" not individuals. Girl defined isn't saying anything new and their platform is designed to appeal to and draw in young women viewers who are seeking advice for adolescence and identity issues. So the reaction videos are kind of like a buffer between the toxicity of girl defined's message, humerously refuting their rhetoric. I find it cathartic. I wish I had reaction videos to the radical religious messages of my youth.
Have you found God Is Grey channel?
MY Fav is Tell-tale but don't know if he has covered these two first time I have seen them.
th-cam.com/channels/gIi12EA6BQ8HKL8QUccsOQ.html
@@aspektx holy shit! you read nothing!
EXACTLY THIS!
That’s something I’ve seen a lot of. I know Jimmy Snow (Mr. Atheist) was brought up in a strict religious household and he’s talked about how harmful that upbringing has been, even after he left. A lot of people who respond to that Jehovah show are like that too, people who were former members of the religion as children and as adults describe it as a cult-like vibe.
“No one but god can judge me” ..... now let me judge all of you sinners out there!
they're literally just giving advice for those who believe in Scripture. If you don't, there's no reason to keep watching.
@@pillowkind exactly!!
@@pillowkind
Indeed and agreed.
That really is the key, the intended audience, with all being free to stay or leave.
I am a Christian in the south and I see this type of Christianity everywhere, and it tends to be what is portrayed and mocked in media (which some of the mockery I totally understand); however, the way I view my walk with Christ doesn't revolve around waiting till marriage to kiss or anything like that (superficial showy things) but rather showing God's love by loving those around me to the best of my ability. A lot of the evangelical christianity tends to be more about showing off what a good christian/ person you are rather than genuinely loving others and developing a close relationship with Christ. It is important for churches and christian communities to remember that they are not immune to corruption, and to not create a sense of superiority, because we are all sinners and saved by God. Jesus hung out with and was friends with the people society deemed "bad" and his disciples were mostly ordinary people. Idk if this makes any sense, but this is the way I view the world
I see this too often myself! It is sad that Christ’s message is perverted to become a status symbol to make people feel they are superior :/ beware the Pharisees and all
I agree, Christians do tend to focus on a lot of unnecessary things but people should be free to express their own opinions, likes and dislikes. I totally see how waiting till marriage could go absolutely beautiful but I also so how it could go wrong. What I'm trying to say is that absolutely nobody has the right to judge these girls for their choice, they found it as something that glorifies God in *THEIR* walk with Christ and that doesn't meet other people's standards, so what? No need to side eye them cause you don't understand
Mark 2: v 16-17
That's fair! Though, I do hate how people make it seem like you need to be religious to be morally good... like- religion shouldn't make you a decent person. You should already be a decent person without the worshipping of god.
Yes, yes, and yes!!
It’s odd to me because one of their husbands it literally gay and went through “conversion therapy” like that’s so problematic
I bet he was more than happy to wait until marriage to kiss
In one of their videos she has a death grip on his hand.
How do you know this for sure? Genuinely wondering
Katie they have confirmed it in a video. apparently one of the girls went to conversion therapy too
Omg, that's really, really sad... Hope he realises that there's nothing wrong with being gay and gets out one day.
The longer I look at their faces the more my soul fades
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣dyinggggg
My biggest problem with Girl Defined was the lack of self-awareness of the scope of their religion. Sure, THEY believe in the Trinity and the Bible, but most people don't. They treat their beliefs like they are objective when they are actually subjective. It's an issue most religious outreach groups struggle with: they hate to admit that the majority of the world doesn't have the same beliefs, and that they need an argument other than "God intended it" when they preach a message to a world with thousands of gods.
Yah however there talking to Christians are you saying that modern Helenics are wrong for talking about Greek mythology because most of the world doesn't practices hellenic beliefs
@@willardjr6257 I'm not just talking about Girl Defined. The main problem is that arguments against other religions and secularism usually boil down to the same reasoning that Christians use when talking to each other.
I guess I should have put my points in a different order, i.e. Christian outreach groups relying on the same rhetoric as groups like Girl Defined, but oh well.
@@andrewmandrona7891 ok that makes a lot more sense I agree with you on that aspect of things and I after rea reading I do see
What you were talking about
The majority is actually Christians. It's the largest religion in the world. Also, offcoarse they would talk about it in a factual way. They believe in it. This argument doesn't hold up in many conversations. They are also preaching to Christian women. How else would you want them to speak? Religious people speak in the way they do because they perceive it as the truth just like how anyone speaks about something they believe. Although I do think that the way girldefined speak about their beliefs is unnerving as they seem to have an incredibly close minded view on those who have different beliefs which isn't the best way to preach or teach.
@@fbsie8579 So, I already commented about the rhetoric they're using. Please read that one.
Other than that, I think you have a troubling misconception about the world. There are only about two billion Christians in the world, and those groups are further splintered with Protestant and Catholic groups. Overall this is less than 1/3 of the world population, far from most, and Christianity probably won't be the top religion much longer due to how fast Islam is growing.
“Why i waited 5 years after marriage to meet my husband”
okay are they like.... abnormally tall or something?when you show them talking to ppl on the street theyre taller than some of the guys and they absolutely TOWER over the women. is it because they are full of jesus's love to help them stretch closer to the lort
Yes, they're both quite tall
They are tall. They used to model, so I think it's safe to assume they're taller than average
Extremely tall and they wear heels.
They’re both about 6”1
"lort" 😭😭😂😂😂😂
The way you explained how they're not countercultural just because they're not necessarily mainstream or belonging to a majority belief was so great. It's something I've felt when I hear people say things like that, but couldn't quite figure out how to verbalize.
I want to see their face when someone points out they are sinning because they are wearing two different fabrics.
Can’t wait for the mental gymnastics to justify that one lol
“Only the parts I like about the Bible are true”
That was from the old testament and jesus said to literally ignore leviticus
also, aren't they sinning for being overly prideful? Idk, the extent of my bible knowledge is mostly the 7 sins... lol!
@@valentine5456 The bit about men lying with men is also in Leviticus and they still flog that BS.
Vea then we should ignore the “let men not lay with other men as he does women” part, but they’re on board with following that
dang, this is probably the most unbiased take on religion
I wasn't expecting that ngl
good job TRO
Because he didn't talk about religion.
There are only facts and according to facts, religion is make believe. Thats how the real world works.
Our “facts” are filtered through by our observation. Sadly, that’s the best tool we got. Might I remind you that for quite a good while this tool of ours seemed to claim the earth was flat. Is there a god? That subject is a bit too big for our tools.
@@skycastrum5803 We claimed the earth was flat around the same time where religion was accepted as fact so of course "science" and "facts" would be ridiculously wrong back in ancient times. Now we can just assume things that are too ridiculous to be real to be false, like heaven and hell or witchcraft or 72 genders, etc.
Ashley Johansson: Just give it enough time. Eventually, we’ll have lived in “ancient times.” (Or who knows? Meteor/rapture, lol.) What seems ridiculous changes all the time. And honestly, while majority opinion is good to know and understand why, it’s a far cry from a decent judge of truth. So, while it may mean very little in the long run, you can place your bet but I’ll keep an open mind on this issue.
So.... why wear pounds of makeup for their videos if beauty isn’t so important
👀😬👩🏾🦯👩🏾🦯👩🏾🦯 they won't say
There's a verse they read out that specifically said not to wear braids in your hair WHILE THEY HAD THEIR HAIR BRAIDED.
They wear light makeup just blush, mascara, brow filler, lipstick
Who says they are wearing it for beauty? And if beauty doesnt matter then it doesnt matter if they are wearing makeup or not. I wear make up because its like clothes to me I like to Express myself through it and feel more like i am portraying myself.
Orange Hiccup sure Jan
"When we think of terrible things, we don't think of porn!"
*nervous sex-repulsed asexual laughter*
Man that's crazy, still can't find who asked tho.
@@yukisan2442 Your condescending comment was so funny I forgot to laugh
@@majaquinn oh damn
@@yukisan2442 Man that's crazy, still can't find who asked for your opinion tho.
Okay that's actually hilarious lmao
That man talking to heaven on the phone got his own hype man.
Hello Heaven?
*H E A V E N M A C H I N E B R O K E*
@@l_rob420 Understandable have a nice day
@@brendankane4186 XD
Oh also, at 24:06 they talk about how we aren't being taught to not have sex before marriage. That's not true, I live in the southern united states and abstinence-only sex ed is still taught widespread here
- Disillusioned - why is that a thing that’s taught lmao that’s absolutely ridiculous
@@absoluteunit240 because white christian parents are worried about their "angel kids", who are already addicted to nicotine and commenting on girls bodies anyway
Interestingly enough, I was raised in Texas, as a homeschooled Christian child. I was taught that it was probably better to not have sex until marriage. Once I realized that marriage was fucked, I decided to still wait until I found the man I would be with forever. It just seems interesting to me.
I'm in Western Washington, which is generally considered pretty liberal, and we had almost abstinence only sex ed as well. There was one day we talked about birth control, and then it was back to not having sex and the horrors of STDs. Our final presentation was about the benefits of abstinence until marriage. We specifically were not allowed to make a presentation about safe sex, someone asked. It had to be abstinence.
@@absoluteunit240 I'm guessing that it is because the Bible was created before sexual protection was. Abstinence was/is a method to protect people from STDs & unwanted pregnancy when there were few/no alternatives. However abstinence is now in the Bible, and nobody is radical enough to change the Bible (except perhaps Thomas Aquinas but he is long dead now). Having said that, I'm not American so there may be culture factors that I'm unaware of.
I can't remember the name of the study. But they asked a bunch of people who were teens in the 1920's about sex (so they were like 80 years old when they did the survey). And they found that over 80% of them had sex before marriage, the talked openly about it. So, the idea that people "Waited until marriage" has most likely never really been that popular. The reality is people have sex before marriage...and those they should know how to have that sex in a safe way.
To be fair the 20' were a pretty liberal times.
And this is exactly what turned me away from Christianity. The whole "do as I say, not as I do" crap was annoying and I saw through it from an early age. Many members of the churches I have attended, prayed on Sunday for all their sins they did Monday through Saturday to only repeat them again starting Monday. If you can't even abide by your own beliefs, why force it on others? Many of them sending their pregnant teens to their "aunt's house" for 6 months or even forcing them to have an abortion because, God forbid the congregation find out what their daughter did. A distant cousin of mine got knocked up when she was 15. Her dad forced her to have an abortion and that really fucked her head up for a long time. I was about 7 years older and tried to get her into counseling, and her father refused to allow it then banned me from seeing her ever again. He also threatened to call the cops on me if I visited my aunt, his mother-in-law, who lived next door. A true psychopath who also abused his kids and pets. Who works that hard to keep their child mentally fucked up in the head? A Christian. As soon as she turned 18, she married the first boy to come along and "take her away." She is now a single mom who can barely keep a job at Walmart.
It was "reasonable" back in the days of the Bible because it was important to know who is offspring of which man. Children were the sign of blessing and the social security. The social structure relied on inheritance, not only in the sense of wealth, but also honor and status. If you know your children exactly (adoption or fostering weren't that much of a thing you know) you secure you heritage. All restriction on the agency of women was essentially about this - if you (as in the men) kept the wives in order and make them stay at home, there will much less likely be "accidents". It was practical, not so much about chastity. Marriage was practical, not romantic or even religious, it was an agreement between fathers. Makes sense if you know the full stage there. Now where the problems rise is when you try to implement this in modern times and make it about "purity".
That's the tricky part about defining "traditions" and comparing the present to anything in the past. We seem to think that traditions and beliefs are stagnant and constant but they are frequently changing all the time too. So what they see as classic, traditional, and "standing the test of time" just isn't nearly as consistent historically as they want to present it. Hell, most of the fundamentalist bologna they spout is a pretty recent invention reinforced by the wave of conservatism often attached to Raegan and new-age conservatism of the late 20th century.
A lot of people don't, too.
aren’t both their husbands “formerly” gay men?
😳
So it's only been rumored that Beth's husband went to a conversion camp but he's adtessee it and said otherwise. Also, in very fundamentalis t families children do not have to be gay to be sent to a camp. Parents fearing their children aren't gender conforming enough or interested enough in the opposite sex can send their children away. Just to be sure apparently 🤷♀️
Thank you so much for not just crapping on religion. I think a lot of people take that route and I think it’s the easy one. You’re always so balanced and that’s why I enjoy watching you.
I couldn't agree more. Whenever I see conversations similar to me it's just comments like "CHRISTIANITY BAD" or whatever
@@michaeljohnguidolin9167 Most of those people are also only exposed to part of Christianity, most commonly Protestants.
I love religion in a anthropological way, how they helped our world to become what it is today; blah-blah, cant understand how ppl dont respect others belief
@@QaZzFilms they have their own reasons TO not respect something respect is not given its earned
Agreed! An actually balanced video discussing religion and religious videos.
I havent watched this yet but the fact that you put girls in quotes makes me think this is gonna convince me that they're lizard creatures or somethin
God, it’s incredibly annoying to hear one of them constantly nod and go “mmhm yeah hm MMHMMM HMM HM YEAH HMMMM”
DougtheDonkeyTV and for them to say things such as “I’m not kissing till marriage “ which isn’t biblical at ALL
I think God gets annoyed with people like this.
I love when people who are wearing makeup and fashionable clothing are telling me that we shouldn’t worry about outward appearances.
God picks from the pit, not the pedestal. "perfect" is not the definition of Christian.
A church is not museum for the perfect but a hospital for the broken
This is deep yall
No lie I’m not even religious and this kinda... made me feel funny u know
That’s not true? But okay
@@maddiek7236 What do you mean? God loves working through the broken, weak, and imperfect to show his power. It is true.
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Thank you for including Strange Æons! Our goth lesbian mom needs more followers.
I kind of find her repulsive because she just regurgitated a stupid talking point.
Dio Brando I mean, I’m not sure how the talking point is stupid? We shouldn’t be doing things like we did 2000 years ago? Or taking everything in the bible literally? I mean, I’ve read it, and some of that shit is crazy, and I’m pretty sure everyone alive should be stoned 5 times over if every single part is taken literally.
Yes!
Degenerate
Amen!!!!!
Girl Defined is my aesthetic, honestly. I love horrid, wicked things presented in a cutesy manner. Gotta wrap hate and narcissism in a pink blanket and put a bow on top 💝
Great job done, my dude
It's like a turd rolled in GLITTER💖💖💖💖💖👀
Me too, lol.
Dany Weaver sparkles!
It's like Dolores Umbridge's aesthetic, to me.
as someone who grew up religious, they’re also just absolutely archetypal “Christian girls.” like i know ten people who are exactly like them, and there are multiple times one of them has been like “wanna grab coffee!?” with this exact fun & light vibe, with some intense “i need to save your soul” subtext.
20:57 "Was it worth it, to save sex for marriage?"
The look on that guy's face was absolutely priceless 🤣🤣🤣
"Absolutely!"
Press X to doubt
Well, he’s a “recovered” gay man who went through conversion therapy... it breaks my heart.
@@deimoskaischylos They made a video on it, where they talked about how he went to conversation therapy twice (deleted the video now though)
@@briannafranklin1390 if that's true, that's truly heartbreaking.
imagine how mad everyone would be if he had said no... he’d ruin the video and his wife would probably start crying
"A woman who fears the lord, she is to be praised"
*That a yikes for me*
Yea, a woman should only fear C'thulluh
@@leannameents8309 I take it as a subtle caution. You know why you should do the things God tells you to do because it's the right thing to do, yet you also do it because he's very vengeful as well. A good way to think of this is like a child being fearful of the punishment he'll get if he fights with his brother.
@@leannameents8309 To be fair, black and white terms are a duality as well lmao.
That’s a big yikes
Maybe thats why nuns are a turn on for some.
Everyone: I don't like people who always quote Bible verses, shove religion down people's throats, and then say they are in the right.
Girl Defined: Hmm...
>Go to a religious channel
>Complain about religious content
Think it says more about you than them.
This is a video that is talking about the unawareness of a religious channel thats manipulating young viewers. Wtf are you on about?
@@trippwraze1509 Thats not very Christian of you to be cussing 😳
Tito Dick you've went around to multiple comments saying the same thing about them wearing fedoras, how about... you grow up!
I thinks it's fine to believe in god, just don't go overboard with it please. That's just me.
As a person who previously religious, I find two things troubling:
1) GirlDefined assumes that one is inherently going to become bad if they step out line with religion in any way whatsoever. This mindset really freaked with my head, making me thing that I was destined for a life of hell because I thought watching Johnny Sins was a good way to use my lonely times. (Spoiler: I am not a coke addicted hooker. Thanks mom.)
2) The broader Christian community is so fear-mongering . They create a bubble of thought instead of giving you any tools to defend yourself from the true evils of the world. Instead of telling you how to avoid sexual harassment, they tell you "you shouldn't have been in a situation where you could have been harassed in the first place". Instead of teaching you to speak up, they teach you to "obey your elders". This creates a horrid dynamic where quite frankly, you're setting people up not the explore things for themselves and stripping them of their problem solving capabilities.
But then again. This thoughts are my own.
From your first point they think people become bad if they step out of their definition of "Christianity", because am sure the wont acknowledge other religion.
Your second point is why a lot of kids feel so terrified to tell leaders in their church/their own parents about sexual misconduct held by other leaders because they’re considered guilty of sinful acts.. which is so damn dangerous. They get away with it for so long because the act of sex is so taboo, impure, and we never were educated in how to defend ourselves from sex that is actually wrong.
I was sexually abused by a church leader and didn’t come out with it until recently.
When I did tell them, who hadn’t gone to church since my abuse, they turned it so it wasn’t their fault and blamed me for ruining my abuser’s covenant of marriage and I should be ashamed of myself. I ruined their relationship with God.. being a sexy little 15 year old girl who was his student…?
They’re all fucked in the brain regarding sex and the inherent power dynamic that older men have over the youth by talking about such vulnerable things with them and forming their minds to become easy targets for such abuse.
@@amandasantana5725 thats actually scarily close to what happened to me. My parents are both very religious and have never taken my story to a more higher place than the church’s senior pastor, thus no one in the church knows what happened to me or a few other girls at church, and on top of that, that pastor is still at that church.
Just remember to wait before marriage to make eye contact with your spouse!
Safest bet is to hold off on finding out who they are before marriage.
Yet the statistics show that it increases happiness in a relationship, especially amongst women. Interesting how that works, eh?
Big Boy Dan Cannon ah yes, I love not knowing anything about my husband before we get married.
@@andrewcunningham4524
Because "sex" means "knowing everything there is to know", sure sure. How's that modern divorce rate going?
Big Boy Dan Cannon I wasn’t really taking a crack at staying a virgin until marriage, I just mean that the girls are pretty nuts for refusing to kiss. You basically can’t do anything remotely intimate because it goes agains god or something.
"Basing their identity on their looks" - seems like these girls are well into the looks thing: hair, makeup, clothes, jewelry, and dare I say it, false eyelashes.
Not to mention telling girls and women how to dress. It doesn’t matter what’s on the outside, you say? Then why are you telling women what they should look like to be “godly?” Does a woman’s appearance matter or not?
That was the first thing I noticed.
Sorry god said (perhaps you know this psalm 😂😂quote 👆🏻)‘ the eye is the lamp of the body if eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light’ so perfect excuse for fake eyelashes
@@agirlinsearchof9057 That's a good question. God obviously sees *beyond* one's appearance (bc he sees the heart), and from there we can say what matters is the intention in your heart to do said action. There are many examples of this principle in the Bible, like when Jesus taught the public about judging. Many digest it as him saying not to judge, when actually judging is very important & effective when done right..
Jesus didn't say not to judge, but to inspect why you're judging in the first place- to help someone or just to feel superior over them when you're just as flawed (the speck in the eye comparison)? That kinda thing. This translates into clothing by dressing not for vanity, impressing ppl you don't know, or putting your ultimate confidence in the makeup/sexy clothes, but knowing you're beautiful as you are on your own apart from these items.
I bet they're wearing mixed fabrics too, against the bibles teaching
I remember the days when I would call it "struggling with same sex attraction." *sigh*
Me now: "accepting and thoroughly enjoying my same sex attraction." ;)
SE sunsetlife YOUR GAY!
killer88942 apparently they are gay and I support them
Eva I was making a joke
killer88942 chill
Eva I wasn’t screaming...........OR AM?!??
"I go to a dark place when people start talking about Jesus at me."
Me too.
Same here. I grew up in Southern Baptist territory. People talking Jesus at me nowadays still triggers my fight or flight response.
I've been a Christian since I was 17, & honestly, Girl Defined's legalistic approach bothers me a great deal. I have found that when you welcome people as they are, it helps build meaningful relationships with everyone regardless of beliefs. I have friends of varying sexualities, walks of life, etc & we've had many honest, respectful conversations about touchy subjects, like religion, social issues, etc. What keeps our friendship strong, is our openness and our willingness to say that we will always be there for each other, no matter what we choose. The world is changing everyday, & will never again be what it was 2000-3000 years ago, & it's important to meet it where it's at now & not force people to change. In other words, be a good listener, and an understanding person.
I don't blame Strange Aeons for where she is now. I hope she finds what she needs & lives a long, blessed life. I just hope Girl Defined reevaluates someday. That's all I hope for: for good things and teachable moments to happen.
I've met some Mormons who took the time to learn the local language so that we could intellectually debate and talk. They didn't manage to convince me, but they were respectful, kindhearted and almost made me wish I could believe it because their community seemed loving. IMO that is the way a believer should behave. Be a beacon. Leave the judging to God (Or if you don't believe in a God, leave the judging of others alone) and just try to show kindness to everyone. These girls freak me out and are very much not behaving in an appealing way. I grew up Christian myself, and when the man who basically saved my sisters life got thrown out of the church for being gay, that's the day I decided to leave that church myself. 2 years after, in a different church, I finally lost my religion entirely. I recognize what isn't being said behind all the stuff they DO say and it's quite frankly, frightening. The subtext is a lot more culty and judgy than the friendly face they painted onto it.
You are so wholesome
"Only God can judge.... unless I'm a young privileged white girl, then I can do it too". The hypocrisy is insane.
Great video my dude. As always. Keep up the amazing content
@@firasjemil213 My grandmother says that I-
@Yoyoitsbenzo Gaming I doubt you know them off screen, so you can't really make that judgement can you.
@Eddie Sam you don't have to personally know someone to make a judgement on the content they produce. They constantly judge people in their videos for doing things that are entirely natural.
@@heckingbamboozled8097 You can judge the content, but that's not what the person was doing. They were making assumptions on their lives
@@eddiesam8539 you realize that their page does show people a look into their lives and what kind of person they are. You can make assumptions about people if you have stuff by them to go off. And they literally have several videos on them judging what they think is worthy/pure. They are not God but they sure as act like it.
Talking about feminism whilst strongly advocating for a system written by highly patriarchal men 2000 years ago without a shadow of self-awareness is the definition of irony.
Yeah Linda sarsour really lacks self awareness... Oh you were takling about these girls. Eh fair enough.
Peter Lock Bolvig Christianity is worse than Islam
@@wrappedaroundmyfinger i is illegal by Islamic (the caliphate) law to be gay in any Islamic country, at best you will be forced to have gender reassignment surgery, at worst you are thrown of sky scrapers. in Islam a woman is by the very law inferior to a man. and this is in current year.
how on earth is Christianity worse than Islam?
Well considering they love the idea of worshipping a sky daddy... I mean...
Peter Lock Bolvig you are not wrong here but one should aknowlege that many people here strive for equality in our society. And ours happens to be based on christianity. You can always point to others and say „they are doing more terrible stuff than we so we don‘t have to look at our own flaws“. Do you see my point here? Even though a lot of the christian society has undergone modernization, many fundamental christians will still condem behaviour or laws that are nowadays widely accepted. Look at russia, a christian country where homosexuality is still punishable (and sometimes gay people just „disappear“) and womens rights are not upto the standarts as in europe or the states. Fundamental cheistians troughout europe and the americas don‘t put women equal to men as in „listen to your husband, you should be a homemaker and a childmaker“, because the bible states that women are lesser beings. many lgbt+ people from these fundamental christian groups suffer greatly due to the identity chrisis they have to go trough or they are completely shunned. Also taking away the right of women to decide over their own body is based on christian ideas as one can see in the „pro-life“ discussions currently ongoing in the states.
It is by all means not a black and white discussion and my argument here is of course leaned into the extreme but it‘s nevertheless a counterargument and i hope it does give some insight in why some people in the western society are so oical against christianity.
“What defines a girl?”
Simple: anyone who identifies as a girl is the definition of a girl.
@Alex Law ummm yes
@Alex Lawumm yes
@Brix Broox DNA doesn’t matter lol. No one’s looking at my DNA when they talk to me.
@Brix Broox coward deleted their comments lmao
Can you seriously be imagine though some random being like 'you give me your dna so I can be a transphobic to your face' ripp no that's not how the world works buddy
Christians: HUMANS ARE SO COMPLEX THAT WE COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN MADE BY A GOD!
Also Christians: bolt no go with bolt like boy no go with boy. This is a very reasonable comparison bc humans have the same emotional capacity and reason for being as nuts and bolts.
what kind of christian-
I mean, yeah there are a lot of toxic Christians but why you gotta lump us all in with that psycho
yeah.. that complexity and amount of variation is actually the biggest argument against there being a "creator"
Assuming they are talking about sex, boy and boy are bolt and nut too lol
Humans are beyond complex. But no God nor gods should tell you what you already know. It just explains how unique humans are when looking at us on a grander scale.
Why I waited until marriage to look at my husband.
I waited until we were divorced to look at my husband. BEAT THAT.
@@anshi5098 damnnn
@Aron Piper can like ruin my life
I waited until I reached heaven to look at my husband 😌
@@Stella_and_Stars I waited in hell for my wife (imma lesbian)
@im bored you should be in heaven though sense your a queen and love who you wanna👑😌
Why I waited two years after marriage until breathing in the same room as my husband so even his air doesn’t get inside of me before Jesus says it’s alright.
😂🤣😂
@@misterb317 Because it's funny.
@@misterb317 because it really doesn’t matter. they’re totally okay with being bullied by people because people aren’t god, so no harm done.
A lot of people ask what the meaning of life is. What is our purpose?
Personally, I think we should be asking ourselves 'What is my purpose? What gives my life meaning?
Does "watching a lot of porn and having fun" count a purpouse?
@@bijntjeveenstra2455 yes, you want to have lots of "fun" and thats good
Before the Bible I had no idea how to punish my slaves and how to sacrifice my children. But now I know how to do it right!
The Bible is very much against Child Sacrifice. Kindly resist the urge to use this argument via outrage.
@@llewelynshingler2173 Sorry, sorry *Sacrifice with my children
Not even sure where in the bible it says to punish slaves for any reason, pretty sure they said the slaves shouldn't lash out *in the context* that revenge is never justified. It's a misconception that it's homophobic as well. It's a ton of stupid people trying to get their beliefs out by misinterpreting a vague message. It says lust is a sin, not homosexuality.
@@festivite "Sacrifice with my children?" What does that mean?
@@dude8171 Agreed. Slavery and the Bible is quite the complicated matter, but the slavery practised in the 1800s is something its authors would condemn.
Thank you for being so respectful of Christianity in your video whilst still making fair criticisms when you came across the opportunity, it was surprisingly refreshing.
I was raised this way, and the words I heard most were, "You cannot be in the world and of God. You must choose one."
I think this mindset is why they have such an anticulture, antisociety opinion. I wasn't even allowed to listen to "secular" music, wear "secular" clothes, participate in "society" in Christmas parties, Halloween, be friends with nonChristians, it was the idea that you can only be Christian, or be part of society
I thought I had to reject the idea of a creator to wear the clothes I like, or listen to music that didn't sound like someone lusting over a mystical being.
I find beliefs like this hilarious. So they think god created the entire world and society and then he draws the line at the fucking clothing isle.
Nah it just means that you can’t do bad things society deems acceptable. Getting down to boogie wonderland in the club isn’t bad
I don't understand those Christians who think I can't listen to secular music, wear secular clothes or be in secular events. It depends. That verse meant something different 😑. It means you shouldn't have the same futile mindset the world has or be pressed to follow the crowd. It means to please God over man bc your accountability in the end is towards God, not men. I can still listen to EDM for example.
@@spaghetto9836 that’s called cherry picking the parts of the bible you don’t like.
Out of pure curiosity, if not too personal, which denomination was your family from?
Anyway, your experience is truly awful. I wonder at what point was it forgotten who Jesus spent time with. Cause it definitely wasn't the most "pure and noble", nor the pious and godly. He didn't place conditions. He literally preached about how a frowned upon Samaritan can be more moral and true than a priest. The notion that only the holiest can for a true congregation was denounced already in the fourth century AD. It truly bugs me how eager some Christians are to ruin faith for some just for the sake of their own fear and "purity".