Think about this: the defendant changed her ENTIRE appearance, from clothes to makeup to hair, looks like a completely different person. Why? So the jury will see her differently. SEE. visual. But the defense counsel has this clown up there dressing like she's going out to the club with false eyelashes and eye makeup and hair ornaments sitting right next to the one who changed her appearance for everyone, and yet we're told "stop judging." See the paradox there? @@jlc6923
Exactly, if she was “too young” then she should not have been on the job. Are they trying to imply that she’s too young to face consequences of her actions?? BS….
The defense stating that there was a lot that she needed to keep up with and that she was merely 24 years old….what an awful opening statement. SHE SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB! She promised she could handle these conditions. She knew what she was getting into, especially considering who her father is (Thell Reed). It’s pathetic for the defense to victimize this girl and call her a “scapegoat”. She knew her title was armorer, so it’s BEYOND DOUBT that she was unaware of the seriousness and legalities of what would happen to her in an event like this case. Also, you would think she would feel a duty to be extremely cautious considering how lucky she was to get this job at her age. She was too busy trying to look cool in front of all these higher-up producers, directors and actors…..
Inappropriate unprofessional distraction. A courtroom is supposed to be a somber legal setting. In my opinion, this attorney looks ready for the nightclub scene. Hannah looks terrified, by the way.
@tringe22 artp3623 knows that SCOTUS isn't hearing this case, they're saying they wish we could be able to hear their arguments on cases they are hearing.
When she was hired, she was hired for both positions. She was asked if she could handle it and said yes. Now, like the typical gen z, something happened, and it's everyone else's fault but her own. No different than a drunk driver who killed someone in an accident they caused and claims its not their fault because the bar tender poured the drink. Her position demanded responsibility and safety and accountability when things go wrong. Period.
Wow, she is the fall down person. There should be four or five more people prosecuted that are just as liable as her. After the first day, my vote is on the not guilty side for now.
The Prosecutions opening argument seems pretty water tight to me, and inversely the Defence already seem to be floundering and clutching at straws. It won't take long to convict her, like I said in another comment: reckless and stupid. Just as an aside, the lady sat next to her... Oh dear... 🤣
Only thing that the prosecution proves is that Hannah didn't load the gun live and the AD okayed it for use on the set. 1_4. 1 rattles and 4 with a hole you can see from the back, and one empty. Only 1 can rattle, so if you shake the gun and it rattles after you spin it, it's cold.
The Lt. states that no one he saw ever tampered with the cart but yet he repeatedly let people in his presence handle stuff on the cart. How could one assume that when he wasn’t present that these things were not going on?
Sorry all you geniuses but, the main supplier of ammo calling and telling someone to remove ammo from the cart and the guns and throw it away???? I’m only 2 1/2 hours into this trial and it’s clearly not this girl‘s fault…🤬
You're right. Hannah didn't load the gun live. The good Lt. that took it from her didn't do any GSR testing or even sniff the barrel or check the chambers. "How do I know that's the gun??". That being said, nobody on set thought Hannah loaded a live firearm, which means someone was either running around loading guns live and/or someone was running around with a live gun. Either way, probably deemed like a good idea to lock all the guns up and keep someone beside Hannah just in case.
Hannah had stories about being frazzled and overwhelmed, so it was OK for her to put real bullets in guns. The Jury wasn't moved, they focused on facts
Everyone needs to back up a little! What I'm hearing in this thread is along the lines ...."A weapon store sells guns, a man buys a gun, commits murder and the state prosecutes the store instead of the criminal!" Utter nonsense! This young lady is a little fish swimming in a shark infested tank! Before she could access the weapon and ammunition on set, there were much higher "sharks" that had even more responsibilities and authority over her eg. producer, assistant producer....if everyone in the hierarchy, starting with executive producer, Baldwin did their job correctly, everything would have flowed smoothly down the hierarchy! The cheap dodgy "prop" bullets, the gun itself were not safely purchased, nor examined before handing them down to the armourer! Baldwin was in charge of everything on that set, he is liable and guilty for killing that lady!
I think if halyna was taken to ER she would have been taken to surgery immediately to sew up her wounds while being transfused.This is the same scenario of princess diana who bled to death in the ambulance and I think she was only 5 miles from a trauma hospital in Paris
Hannah took the gun that was involved, as well as all the ammo in that gun! Guees her lawyer forgot that! Why are her lawyers complaining about evidence when their client took the gun???
Thinking it's more or at least equally as important for the experienced producers and department heads to maintain safety protocols. Likewise, they hired a less experienced, 24 year old, probably to save money, so that decision also led to this tragedy.
I agree. Bowles could have done better for Hannah. Word had it that he was a fed prosecutor before this and got a lot of plea Agreements.. Seems a little gun shy and doesn't want to ruffle feathers. Judge and prosecutor do tag team him a lot here.
i dont like that court TV focuses 85% on Hannah Gutierrez because her demeanor is mostly non plussed and extremely bored ( we see her yawning a few times). I think from her privileged movie family upbringing court proceedings, legal speak etc would be fascinating especially since she's the center of it all. Basically she's unemotional!🤔
hard to get an IV into collapsed veins of a person experiencing heavy blood loss.Paramedics should have put her into helicopter so she could be transfused in hospital.!
She looks like a complete different person. Without the blond and purple hair. Now she is a nice young lady. Before she looked like....i can't think of something 😅
@@paulaperry2951 I’m just curious why a ‘nice young lady’ can’t have purple hair? What does hair color have to do with personality or said person’s behavior? I’ve met and/or learned of many terrible people with blonde, brown, black, red gray or white hair. Far, far less of these bad actors had purple hair. I’d imagine your experiences are similar?
As usual, the promotion of mediocrity, resulting in sub-standard performance. You have to be pretty reckless and/or stupid to mess up this badly with firearms safety on a movie set.
Prop and amour seem like the same job? Not much different to each other and seems very straight forward to just simply not have live rounds and boom job is easy! 🙄🙄🙄
Sigh. Neither job is easy. No firearm must ever be allowed out of the armorer's sight. In a western, where everyone carries firearms, it's a full time job. And yes, I've worked with live firearms on stage. I've seen better firearm safety in community theater, with volunteers. It's sad that these people are "professionals". She acted like someone who didn't even have the basics of firearm safety down. She had ZERO business in this role.
It was her job to insist on all of those safety issues or she should have refused to carry out her duties period. Thats the whole point of an armourer
Being 24 is no excuse... someone died....she were clearly not qualified for that job...
That lady's hair ornament is something for a wedding or other big event😂😂😂
Judge aren't we
Think about this: the defendant changed her ENTIRE appearance, from clothes to makeup to hair, looks like a completely different person. Why? So the jury will see her differently. SEE. visual. But the defense counsel has this clown up there dressing like she's going out to the club with false eyelashes and eye makeup and hair ornaments sitting right next to the one who changed her appearance for everyone, and yet we're told "stop judging." See the paradox there? @@jlc6923
Defense Attorney opening stmt admits to Hannah's failure to do her job. 'She was only 24' That is no excuse.
Exactly, if she was “too young” then she should not have been on the job. Are they trying to imply that she’s too young to face consequences of her actions?? BS….
01:06:50 prosecution opening statements.
Thank you so much!!
Thank you. Was looking for timestamps.
5:17:26 That is not the attitude of an armorer. That is a child. Taking zero responsibility.
She was crying. But she felt guilty and responsible i.m.o
This is what happens when youre the kid of a legend and think youre untouchable.
Is it go to work dressed as Amy Winehouse day??
based on your photo, it must have been ‘go to work as your favorite 1930’s clown’
The defense stating that there was a lot that she needed to keep up with and that she was merely 24 years old….what an awful opening statement. SHE SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB! She promised she could handle these conditions. She knew what she was getting into, especially considering who her father is (Thell Reed). It’s pathetic for the defense to victimize this girl and call her a “scapegoat”. She knew her title was armorer, so it’s BEYOND DOUBT that she was unaware of the seriousness and legalities of what would happen to her in an event like this case. Also, you would think she would feel a duty to be extremely cautious considering how lucky she was to get this job at her age. She was too busy trying to look cool in front of all these higher-up producers, directors and actors…..
And the woman next to Hannah is? Her stylist?
She looks like a Klingon.
Inappropriate unprofessional distraction. A courtroom is supposed to be a somber legal setting. In my opinion, this attorney looks ready for the nightclub scene. Hannah looks terrified, by the way.
@@joannepollak5843 Progressives.
@@joannepollak5843 THAT's a stretch - MORE like Adam's Family, Re-enactment.
Yes, her name is Trishia. She prefers to be referred as a "professional aesthetician" though.
Thanks for posting the trial. I wish we had access to the SCOTUS chamber during arguments
Scotus? Thats "Supreme Court of the United States" which is not who is hearing "this" case.
@tringe22 artp3623 knows that SCOTUS isn't hearing this case, they're saying they wish we could be able to hear their arguments on cases they are hearing.
When she was hired, she was hired for both positions. She was asked if she could handle it and said yes. Now, like the typical gen z, something happened, and it's everyone else's fault but her own. No different than a drunk driver who killed someone in an accident they caused and claims its not their fault because the bar tender poured the drink. Her position demanded responsibility and safety and accountability when things go wrong. Period.
‘Like a typical Gen Z’…who are you to stigmatize a complete generation? Classic resentful bozo
Wow, she is the fall down person. There should be four or five more people prosecuted that are just as liable as her. After the first day, my vote is on the not guilty side for now.
The Prosecutions opening argument seems pretty water tight to me, and inversely the Defence already seem to be floundering and clutching at straws. It won't take long to convict her, like I said in another comment: reckless and stupid.
Just as an aside, the lady sat next to her... Oh dear... 🤣
Luck does not exist. Feel free to continue believing in nonsense.@Don-rl1sm
Only thing that the prosecution proves is that Hannah didn't load the gun live and the AD okayed it for use on the set. 1_4. 1 rattles and 4 with a hole you can see from the back, and one empty. Only 1 can rattle, so if you shake the gun and it rattles after you spin it, it's cold.
Clutching at straws, the defence, so far.
Damn, you beat me to it.
Absolutely. From his opening statement.
The Lt. states that no one he saw ever tampered with the cart but yet he repeatedly let people in his presence handle stuff on the cart. How could one assume that when he wasn’t present that these things were not going on?
I don’t understand how she only got 18 months?
She is guilty as sin! She was a spoiled child riding the coattails of her father's legacy!
Sorry all you geniuses but, the main supplier of ammo calling and telling someone to remove ammo from the cart and the guns and throw it away???? I’m only 2 1/2 hours into this trial and it’s clearly not this girl‘s fault…🤬
That seems like clear evidence tampering which is a charge by itself. A lot more people need to be tried here.
You're right. Hannah didn't load the gun live. The good Lt. that took it from her didn't do any GSR testing or even sniff the barrel or check the chambers. "How do I know that's the gun??". That being said, nobody on set thought Hannah loaded a live firearm, which means someone was either running around loading guns live and/or someone was running around with a live gun. Either way, probably deemed like a good idea to lock all the guns up and keep someone beside Hannah just in case.
Not standing for the jury, picking her nose, yawning - o yeah, entitlement & cockiness all the way.
I’m not an evidence tech or a lawyer but, those two boxes of dummy rounds in the prosecutions opening are very much NOT the same box !!! 🥴🤡🤬
Hannah had stories about being frazzled and overwhelmed, so it was OK for her to put real bullets in guns. The Jury wasn't moved, they focused on facts
Everyone needs to back up a little! What I'm hearing in this thread is along the lines ...."A weapon store sells guns, a man buys a gun, commits murder and the state prosecutes the store instead of the criminal!" Utter nonsense!
This young lady is a little fish swimming in a shark infested tank! Before she could access the weapon and ammunition on set, there were much higher "sharks" that had even more responsibilities and authority over her eg. producer, assistant producer....if everyone in the hierarchy, starting with executive producer, Baldwin did their job correctly, everything would have flowed smoothly down the hierarchy! The cheap dodgy "prop" bullets, the gun itself were not safely purchased, nor examined before handing them down to the armourer! Baldwin was in charge of everything on that set, he is liable and guilty for killing that lady!
Not if the man bought dummy bullets, but received real ones without his knowledge.
I think if halyna was taken to ER she would have been taken to surgery immediately to sew up her wounds while being transfused.This is the same scenario of princess diana who bled to death in the ambulance and I think she was only 5 miles from a trauma hospital in Paris
Hannah took the gun that was involved, as well as all the ammo in that gun! Guees her lawyer forgot that! Why are her lawyers complaining about evidence when their client took the gun???
Thinking it's more or at least equally as important for the experienced producers and department heads to maintain safety protocols. Likewise, they hired a less experienced, 24 year old, probably to save money, so that decision also led to this tragedy.
The cross examination of the Lt. was pretty lame. "Why didnt you put witnesses in cars spread out all over the place"
Didn't want them driving away?? Wanted to keep an eye on them with only a couple of cops. This was their first rodeo?
I agree. Bowles could have done better for Hannah. Word had it that he was a fed prosecutor before this and got a lot of plea Agreements.. Seems a little gun shy and doesn't want to ruffle feathers. Judge and prosecutor do tag team him a lot here.
Hanna's gotta stop blinking her eyes soooo much! Gives me a headache 🤯
It's like she isn't used to wear eye make up😂😂😂
I think she has contacts in i blink like that because my eyes get dry.
Maybe her assistant next to her can lend her some lashes to protect her eyes
The lady or "man" next to her gives me a headache.
SO now I try to adjust my screen so I am not looking at her!
Court no likes Applez. HAHAHAHAHA
I've never had my comments removed! I did nothing wrong....
I tried 2 times because i thought something went wrong. But never mind!
you lie about no live ammo on the job site your guilty.
This is the prosecutor from Law and Order!!!
i dont like that court TV focuses 85% on Hannah Gutierrez because her demeanor is mostly non plussed and extremely bored ( we see her yawning a few times). I think from her privileged movie family upbringing court proceedings, legal speak etc would be fascinating especially since she's the center of it all. Basically she's unemotional!🤔
She must be on some heavy anti anxiety meds.
You have to know that this is where the jury's attention if fixatedm though.
hard to get an IV into collapsed veins of a person experiencing heavy blood loss.Paramedics should have put her into helicopter so she could be transfused in hospital.!
You have to maintain some fluid volume to sustain life to fly someone to the hospital. You don't scoop and run...or fly.
is everyone incl the monotonous defence shiny head guy and prosecutor on drugs?
2:37 first witness
fake crying!
Don’t blame Alec for her actions! 😢
Goran!
What's that?
She looks like a complete different person. Without the blond and purple hair. Now she is a nice young lady. Before she looked like....i can't think of something 😅
the amount of judgement based on her looks in these comments is absurd
@@kyleanderson2949 Why did her legal team completely change her looks? Perception counts.
@@paulaperry2951 I’m just curious why a ‘nice young lady’ can’t have purple hair? What does hair color have to do with personality or said person’s behavior? I’ve met and/or learned of many terrible people with blonde, brown, black, red gray or white hair. Far, far less of these bad actors had purple hair. I’d imagine your experiences are similar?
Nepositism at work
Exactly. Pop was a well known name in the biz and daughter, who was far from ready, would ride his coattails.
As usual, the promotion of mediocrity, resulting in sub-standard performance.
You have to be pretty reckless and/or stupid to mess up this badly with firearms safety on a movie set.
Such a reddit comment.
MADE IN THE USA.
She 's guilty!!
Prop and amour seem like the same job? Not much different to each other and seems very straight forward to just simply not have live rounds and boom job is easy! 🙄🙄🙄
I tried to make a simular comment but it was deleted twice. Even i could do it!
Sigh. Neither job is easy. No firearm must ever be allowed out of the armorer's sight. In a western, where everyone carries firearms, it's a full time job.
And yes, I've worked with live firearms on stage. I've seen better firearm safety in community theater, with volunteers. It's sad that these people are "professionals". She acted like someone who didn't even have the basics of firearm safety down. She had ZERO business in this role.
what are some crazy things people have done to get fame ?