170 m Extreme Wall Dive - Salvador Brazil
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2014
- This dive was made at the end of the continental shelf wall near from city of Salvador, Brazil. The goal was to reach 200 m in 12 minutes, that if the conditions were favorable, but we got to 170 m in 16 min and our TTS was 5:18 h. This time beyond the expected, although seem small (4 min), prevented us from achieving our target depth. In spite of this, we explore and discovery the secrets and charms that the wall hides and ended up discovering one of the secrets, an interesting deep sea cave. This made it worth every second that we spend on costly and tedious 5 hours of decompression.
We had problems with the lighting because one of our main movie light flooded in the previous dive. The diving was very quiet and had no unforeseen. - กีฬา
I've been mesmerized since I was a kid by the very concept of continents having edges in the form of gargantuan cliffs that go down thousands of meters below the ocean to the abyssal depths. It's just beyond cool that you got to dive into the abyss itself. Thanks so much for sharing!
Alex, same here, I find the ocean both fascinating and terrifying
They’re also very dangerous to dive at too. You not only have to worry about predatory sharks likely to hang out in those areas, but the most dangerous thing about these areas is that vertical currents being present to the areas. Such currents like down currents can swallow you into the abyss and never get back up the wall. There’s also a risk of getting decompression sickness especially if the continental slope starts at 300ft deep underwater. It’s safer to wall dive if you’re a trained professional diver as you know what the dangers are already.
Been watching a lot of cave diving lately so this popped up in my recommendations. Amazing. I love all the technical information, thanks for sharing.
You guys are amazing! Great demonstration of your thorough planning, training, knowledge, and self control. Flawless execution, and it actually looked like you guys were having a great time too!
I wouldn't say 'amazing' or 'self control'. With the much equipment and a rebreather they SHOULD NOT be finning to descend using up oxygen, increasing breathing rate and building up CO2 in the loop. Plus the amount of silt they kicked up in the cave.
A scuba dive this deep requires extensive decompression in the water, during the slow ascent.They are doing it properly., using mixed gases,, helium-oxygen-nitrogen/air. only expert divers can swim to 500 ft. Depth safely, and return.
Arnold Stollar some experts have gone to 1000 feet.
Yea, but to do it in a 3rd world country, where medical care was distant and sketchy at best, seems a bit risky..
@@jjthomas2297 we have good hospitals here , but they are mostly private
@Dan Solomon Yes I agree. I would not be using gas that has been sitting in a tank that long. But hey, it's 'only' bail out gas..
Hahahaha ya think??? David shaw went to almost 900 trying to bring back that body when he passed which even tho he was a very experienced diver it's still very dangerous at that depth cuz of the compression on everything plus David was having to do one hour of deco every 1 minute he was down at that depth that is crazy!!! Yet a shame he passed away during that
I started tec diving like a month ago and I thought 30 min deco was hell cant imagine 6 hours of deco
at least it's a wall dive
Many saturation dives taken by commercial divers result in 8 DAYS of decompression and the deepest excursions can take up to 15 DAYS to decompress.
Kriss, how do you pass the time doing decompression?
@Pagani Zonda commercial divers do their decompression in a pressure chamber, so they can just Hang out in there and do whatever they please.
@Pagani Zonda as far as i know, they are taken to the surface inside a pressurized bell, and are then transferred into a deco chamber directly
Hi Tony! Thanks for watching and ask. Form the bottom (171 m) to de last decompression stop I used 1.3. After end the decompression, form 6 m to surface I used 0.7. During decompression, due to the high CNS (184%) I made two break periods with SP 0.5 for 10 min each.
excellent dive and super dive planning...thanks for sharing your super achievements...
Hi Laszlo, Tony, and the Dive Team, I was certified/Open Water by PADI and YMCA back in '79 (rescue , search , and recovery). By no means would I do what you do but have the greatest respect for you and the team's work. May GOD Bless and Keep you Always!!! Very sincerely yours, Bernd Ehor Woloszczak
Experience says it all, super dive team thanks for sharing.
had to surface couldn't take the music.
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
@@user-cv1ht6hn3w You having a stroke?
To all the wankers saying and what did you see at 170 its nit about what you see its about being there .. wtf do u see at the top of Everest nothing but clouds .. its about the challenge .. u wont get it if you dont dive
I dive and don't get it. Climbing Everest is full of variables even on one of the tour packages. This is a technical exercise based upon known factors.
The fastest milkman in the West it takes YEARS of training and experience to do technical dives such as this, whereas anybody with bookoos of money in decent shape can climb Everest in a matter of months, so yeah, don't compare the two.
@The fastest milkman in the West This took years of training, practice, and the accumulation of massive quantities of knowledge. It is vastly more difficult to reach a level of competency to do this than climb Everest. even to make it to this point in training with a competent instructor is more than a couple of months. Hell, one of the PROBLEMS with Everest expeditions is the simplification leading to everyone with money attempting the climb, and getting people killed at the step.
So yes, SHOOSH, you don't know what you're talking about.
@The fastest milkman in the West I'm likely Older than you are and a tech diver myself. You on the other hand, given you went straight for the age insults, likely aren't.
Never fails, someone shoots their mouth off, gets called on it, and wants to be an ass.
@The fastest milkman in the West bro, if youre talking about Solo. JUST go to any tech dive centre and tell them you want to do 170m deep solo dive. They will either laugh at you or take you to the mental institution. Same case with wanting to scale the everest solo, with only months of training. Actually the both are comparable.
Thou the other is emphasizing on physical and mental shape, the other are almost solely relying on technical knowledge and mental aspect.
I’m no diver but really impressed at the planning and calculations that are required to survive such technical dives.
Parabens!!! excellent video!
Excelente video. Ya lo agregue a mi lista de buseos por hacer.
Good job guys
So proud of you
This was a lovely watch. Nice to see a video without lots of safety blunders :)
I'm a diver and it was an amazing technical dive. Albeit, you need a bit of serious gear and goulash to do such an activity. But if you use the Everest analogy, same goes there. Thanks for showing!
Fantastic dive
respect, wonderful experience.....
7:46 people kicking sand at 105m ???? That's definitely a rare sighting !!
SENSACIONAL!!!
Ok, thanks for enlightening me
that was amazing thanks for sharing.
And I thought my Cayman Wall dive to 150 was rad. I am humbled by what these guys did!
I worked on the great lakes as a professional Scuba Diver back in the 70s. Back then, we thought the 80 Cubic foot aluminum tanks were high-tech. My deepest Cold water dive was in Lake Superior at around 150 feet. I was wearing a Harvey’s Dry suit and twin 72s. Also a Scuba Pro Mark 7 Regulator; I really thought I was using peak underwater technology. Watching you guys now is impressive. If I tried it, you mine as well not wait for me because I doubt I would be coming back up.
I'm an open water rec diver with about 250 dives. Max depth for me was 150' and I was scared to depth. These cats rock !!!!!
Hey guy's that was great 👍, and I'm glad you made it safely. I'm just seeing this.
Great video
Very impressive dive!
Muito legal, Lazlo e Bruno! Uma aventura pra pouquíssimos, tipo star trek! ou sea trek! Que caixa estanque suportou 18ATM? Grande abraço e parabéns!
IMPRESIONANTE... felicitaciones
Really very nice view of the depths of the sea❤❤❤
a well done dive & video full of info, thanks for sharing. Greetings from Sharm / MIXunlimited filling station.
Sick dive! I haven't done a REAL dive (>100m) in half a year, this made me want to get back into it! Interesting choice of bailout, seemed like you guys should have had more O2 for that long of dive and perhaps Nitrox 50? I thought it was really cool the way you commentated on the process, it takes A LOT of planning for these kinds of dives!
Everything that lasts longer than you can hold your breath and is outside of a pool is a real dive.
they do not write the plan of dive because each serious team write the plan only for themselves. As international diver instructor I'm agree. I think that each team need of different plan because every body on dive has different parameters and each dive can to be with different difficulties
Köszönöm, hogy megnézte a videómat! Magyar származású brazil vagyok (apám). Sajnos nem beszélek magyarul!
Egész jól megy :)
love the music, great video, very informational.
The music sounds like Dynasty warriors. Good old Days.
I'm just wondering whether it was intentional to kick a silt all over the place :-) We do it very often to simulate zero visibility. To make dive more extreme! But we are using our hands, not fins.
gorgeous profile!!
Wow impressive work / planing / execution!
183% CNS, you can do this, but if you do it too often you will get lung problems i guess..
5 hours of decompression!!!
Casual.
Many experienced commercial divers make saturation dives where they reside at very deep points in the ocean in a specialized habitat, sometimes even up to 1000ft and take 8 DAYS on average to decompress. The deeper SAT dives can take 15 DAYS to decompress!
@@brandonk4991 bit of a difference decompressing in a saturation chamber where you can eat sleep and watch tv to floating about at 10mtr or what ever for 5hrs
I though it was going to be worse. There are this guys wich made 245m on a cave a 16h of deco
Well done.
OMG. Kudos 👍👌
Супер! Не каждый решится на такое.
Now in 2021, to dive this rebreather in 2014 it seems like heroes adventures;)
A data nos créditos está como 7 julho 2014 e nem chegamos lá ainda!
Futurista. Mas é só esse detalhe que fugiu o resto está SHOW!
This cannot have been easy to plan!! Did you different mixed of helioxes aswell? I assume the ppo2 will go above 1.4 with a regular heliox at 170m! You must have had multiple blends. Great work!
Nice wall dive.
Cool seeing more and more people sat. Diving, my deepest 103ft nothing compared to this.
Decompression diving and saturation diving is not the same. Saturation diving is when the start and end of the dive is at high pressure (pressurised underwater habitat). Starting and ending at depth means no need for deco.
This dive started and finished at the surface and required lengthy decompression, it was not a saturation dive.
Also pretty boss profile
Amazing dive my friend but i have a Q how culd u guys handled 184 cns?! Is there was no symptoms or somthing ? I learned in my trimix course that i cant exceed100% and congrats for such an achievement
What camera did you use to film at this depth?
Great job ever life. Oh wow
Awesoem video
Hi This reminds me of the Hans Deep of plymouth not as deep Brasil but just as spectacular.
thanks
Hi guys, congratulation. What dive computers do you use now and for a 170m dive, would you still use a bubble model (VPM) ? Kind regards
Hello Pierre Louis! Thank for watching my video and do questions. The computer that I used was a X1 from Liquivision, that not is more manufactured. Today use the Shearwater Nerd, Petrel and AV1. In the past used the VPM but today use Bühlmann with GF 50/60. Had DCI with VPM on deep dives
Tenderson the surface. , support Teams, and rescue squad too, topside, are recommended.
Question? Was there any vertical currents in this location? Down currents and up currents are pretty common near abyssal drop offs like in this video.
So far I have not seen updrafts or downdrafts in these places.
What name brand video camera was used for the filming?
Pray Continuously, thanks to watch and for asking. GoPro into the IQsub housing and BigBlue light 3500 lumen. Now I use 2 x 3500 lumen vídeo light .
Obrigado Ary! A caixa é uma H2Ov da GMS concepts e a câmera é uma Contour (action camera)(www.gmsconcepts.com). Já fomos a 200 m com ela!
surface interval 26 days!
Yeah I noted that too on the computer, oh well, basically a month of zero diving
Probably a different computer that’s being NV used
5:16 that's 72 m high 😨, imagine 300+meters going that far down...scary
I'm surprised that at this technical level, you guys are not using underwater comms. If you are, i missed it. Massive respect for you my friend, takes balls of steel, mastery, and a lot of time underwater to do this rather simple dive to the eyes of those that watch behind a screen, but its demanding by nature for those who practice it. Keep it up on the music tho, not the best chice for this video IMO.
to use underwater comms would require a FFM, which is generally considered to be a horrendous idea while carrying multiple stage cylinder, a redbreather, and using team bailout strategies.
I absolutely loved the music
Did you happen to notice the diving?
do u ever think a megalodon is some where in the ocean in a slumber sleep?
The name of the rebreather says it all ;)
Nope
Hi Laszlo what SP did you have on accent was it .7 ?
+Tony Alba Hi Tony! No it was 1.3.
Please remove music?
Ok...a few questions:
1.What certification do you need to go to these depths?
2.Why this music?
3. How long did it take you to descend to 170m?
4. How many safety stops do you have to do and at how many meters and for how long?
5. How many tanks of air(per person)?
6. How long was this dive for?
7. At what depth did the visibility disappear?
8.How far were you from the boat when you ascended?
I think that's about it....for now 😅
Sara's Randomz Thank you for watching and asking these questions. 1. I am CCR trimix and cave, but this certification would only allow me to go up to 100 m. I think there is no certification that contemplates this depth. 2. Because I wanted to. 3. 18 min. 4. There were no safety stops, I just followed the computer. 5. One rebreather and 4 S80 bailout tanks. There were still other tanks on the boat that the safety diver could bring us if necessary. We used the rebreather all the time, there was no need for the other tanks. 6. 332 min. 7. visibility has not disappeared. What was very reduced was the ambient light. Below 120 m the flashlight was needed. 8. About 400 m.
Music At 10:30 is brutal and so the dive depth
how do you know the accent speed? is it just watch the bubbles rise? or do you just got 2 meter increments?? how do you work out an accent that large ?
also how much capacity do the scrubbers/pellets have for c02? what is your max time on a rebreather?
Thanks for watching and commenting my video! Before the dive I plan using a decompression software that is Multideco or Subsurface. These software as well as the dive computers will show the speed of ascent. If you ascent faster than indicated, it will alert you. It is usually a slowed down ascent, ie faster at greater depths and slower at smaller ones. For these dives I use a scrubber with capacity for 4 kg of sodasorb, this in warm water (26 degrees C) can give approximately 8 hours. The most I ever spent was 7 hours on a dive. A friend has already gone 9 with a double rebreather.
Üdv! Milyen reduktort használsz?
Kerestem videókat de a kedvencem pont egy magyar :D
Sorry what does it mean by 5 hours of decompression?
i was expecting more comments about his trim and how he is stirring silt everywhere !!!
More bottles then my alcoholist ex
80sOutrunFan hhhh OMG
Surface int. 26 DAYS ! Maybe i should start deep diving in my 50's
What could be happen?
Team bailout on a 170m dive??? Y'all are nuts!
Decompression out of the water, topside, in chamber, may be done too additionally.
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generally on wants to avoid trips in a chamber. Can yes, desirable, no.
Can you tell me the name of these diver computers?
Team bailout techniques..Does that mean if both divers had a rebreather failure you wouldnt have enough gas to complete decompression obligation?
Exactly!!!
It really gets dark down there
Ocean in tropical water actually gets dark around 200 meters deep aka 660 ft. Once you hit 3,282 ft aka 1000 meters deep, you reach the depth where NO sunlight reaches you. It’s also where if you’re at 1000 meters without a submersible, you would be instantly crushed in seconds as the water pressure at 1,000 meters is 5,000 psi. Abyssal zone is 11,000 psi, and the Trench zone is at 16,000 psi.
What was your acent rate?
Thanks for watching and asking this question!
Unfortunately I don't have the exact data of this dive, because the computers I was using didn't allow downloading the data like the current ones do. At 16':35" of this video, some data on ascent rate are displayed.
good
This is not for an everyday diver. Im an adv padi but wont go this far, this takes a lot of knowledge, money and discipline.
Bill Latibay Thanks for watching my video! and progressing gradually. Shallow and long dives are great training
Great vid :)
But kicking up sand like you guys did at 7:50 is a big no-no :/
Edit: Boy, oh boy... 10:15 you swim into a cave kicking everything up, that's even worse.
why?
cause you cant see anything when there is sand around especially the guy behind you eats the dust :)
🐒
they are just not cave divers its seem from the very first minutes. dont angry on nonsertified pips. just another line of dive study
but not trimming on exit the wall... ghm. on those depths... droped buddy likely 10+ m difference not even once looked on him down. i'd better will do solo
My instructor would have probably just about killed me if I kicked up that much silt, and swum up on the ascent, and I'm only Tec 40. But he is big on buoyancy control and finning techniques etc. Awesome video though great info on the planning etc.
oh there is cave at 143 m. Lets go cave divin. har har you guys rock. greetings from ger.
Maxi Luo, I have another vídeo about this cavern. th-cam.com/video/yQZQJrPDFu0/w-d-xo.html
Lol i never saw the guy in the lead on the ascent turn and check on the other guy.
Next cave diving in a 143 m cave
Great run, had to mute it. Don't pick music that reverbs in stereo!
Thanks for watching and commenting on my video! Here on my devices is normal. Please try opening another device.
@@laszlomocsari2118 The music in the intro oscillates between two channels intentionally, I'm looking at it on an EQ and it's made that way. On a pc with good speaker separation, it creates a reverb sounding effect.
More tame music would have been a much better choice, I think some of the other commenters agree as well.
Nice dive though!
DPV and you probable make it down, less work, less gas absorption.
I agree! 👏👏👏
This video was ruined by the music
Ok in that depth if anything wrong with his equipment what the hell can he do ?
AboMyDyingBride, It's very simple, either I die or I survive! Problems at this depth often do not depend on the equipment but on the operator (human failure) such as CO2 retention, narcosis, hyperoxia, DCI. In the event of failure of the rebreather we are taking enough gases to only one get out of the main apparatus.
You trust BO tanks two years of age? Crazy.
Song at 9:10 pls?
I don’t really understand how you can eat or drink underwater....
Lilliz91, Thanks for watching and commenting my video! I have another video that shows better drinking underwater liquid. You can eat gel used to run or even bananas. It's a pity that this video is in Portuguese, but the pictures speak for themselves. th-cam.com/video/g4Xgrf-vGjM/w-d-xo.html
This music is SO distracting. I sure don’t need music to enjoy diving. There is more beauty in silence and the sounds of the dive.
Strolling a distance of 170m through a park compared to diving 170m deep insane. Better don’t lose your keys or wallet down there...
looked a bit of a mess TBH