I am also pretty new with "amp modelers". My "struggles" maybe just mirror what many might experience. The MG-300 was plug, play and get a really good sound, whilst the MG-30 needs quite some tweaking to get it right... But I am working on it ;-) Thanks for your comment!
The only reason I found this post is because someone had a used MG-300 for sale on Facebook Marketplace here in town. Because of other reviews, but mostly this one, I decided to go take a look and a listen. I was lucky that the seller was an older gentleman that owned a dozen guitars, writes music using several DAWS, has an amp collection, and has played guitars for years. He hooked it up and we went through all the different options. It was like new, and came with the original box and paperwork. And I got it for $60. My grandson and I have been having a blast playing with it the last couple of days. Thanks for your great review and demonstration. I liked the video and subscribed to your channel. Take care.
Totally appreciate this great comparison! Like several others here, was waiting for the 30, but based on sound, the 300 blows it out of the water. Much more organic.
Thanks for the review. I would caution folks in the quick assumption that the 300 sounds better than the 30 based on this video alone. While it may seem to in this video, there is a factor called the modeler sweet spot. That is the settings that sound best in a particular amp model or modeled pedal. Often it involves a tone or EQ setting to sound darker or brighter. This video is the sweet spot of the 300 captured well. However, instead of finding the sweet spot of settings for the 30, it was set with the same settings as the 300. Such a method doesn't present the best that each unit has to offer. If the good settings on the 30 had been set on the 300, it would probably sound muddier (as the models in the 30 seem brighter). You see this in analog drive pedals too. A company tweaks a circuit to make a newer version, and sometimes the tone or gain settings that worked on the old version don't sound great on the new one. If you want to hear how good the 30 can sound, check out Pete Thorn's demo. If you still prefer the 300, cool, but hear the 30 properly set first.
I think the competition for the mg30 is much steeper than for the mg300. The 300 is just best in class at its price range, while the 30 has to compete. It’s probably still the most budget friendly at its capability, but it’s already not a budget pedal anymore. Great comparison! Edit: the 30 is more realistic sounding, tbf. But I think I like the 300s sound more, weirdly enough. Sounds like it’s been mixed down a bit, while the 30 sounds more raw, unedited.
in a live situation, in my opinion the mg-300 will punch mo.cause it sound louder, as if the mic is placed nearer the speaker and the mg-30 further away from the speaker ...
Excellent video ! Very well done. All bases are well covered here . I recently purchased the MG300 and am very impressed and very happy with it in every aspect of sounds and functions . I wanted a small desk top unit for my personal recordings . This unit is of even more value than I thought . Simply fantastic, and so enjoyable to use . No bad sounds like some older modelers I used to have . This machine sounds and feels so good that when I plugged back into one of my all tube Marshall amps ... It was not fun anymore . At all . I much prefer the sounds and feel of the MG 300 ! Thanks for the great informative video .
I own a 300 and the 30 sure sounds a bit brighter on the recordings ! I have used the 300 for live and definitely did a good job for clean gain sounds. I think I’ll keep the LUX MG 300. Vic Canada
I think the MG30 sounds more authentic and realistic. The MG300 is good sounding for it's price. I think I would personally try out the MG30 over the 300 as it sounds just a tad more authentic and it looks gig worthy. Nice comparison video. Thank you!
I'm surprised. The MG-30 is way better than the MG-300. And the MG-300 has a fairly flimsy plastic case, so not quite as ready for doing gigs with. I'll just say compare them carefully before you decide. You'll find great comparisons of FX boards at Leo Gibson's channel...
Thank you for the excellent video and I will also check out the NUx 30 video , looking to replace my older pod 2 from some 20 yrs ago. Was looking at the Newer POD GO but this seems to be a good unit to buy because I don't have the money for the line six pod. Again thank you for the update and also the screen is great for my aging eyes.
Awesome review!! Totally honest and unbiased, loved the comparison set up and the comment about putting on glasses (been there many times). I encourage all looking at these two units to watch yours. Also for choosing to perform unselfishly with only audible, giving viewers full opportunity to see the important stuff without showing off your amazing guitar talents… but actually you did anyways 😊along with you’re ability to assemble a professional video. I thank you again👍👍
Very good review without bias. MG30 looks more versatile & durable looking as well as more options & functionality. But comparing the sound tones & price affordability, I think MG300 is still the better option for me - more compact & easy options for user. Thanks again for your efforts to make this review. Keep up the good work!
Great video and guitar playing buddy. New subscribed here now. Nice channel. Thanks 😎👍👌💯🎸🎸. I prefer the mg 30. Durability is a big deal and more options. 👍👌💯 Both sound good though
Sir I am using an oldschhol amp how do I plug it to amp if I get the MG30. I am so sad because I destroyed my mg300 out of frustration it was giving me alot of software issues footswitch and cabinet sounded bad. Now I am planning ro get mg 30😢
Thanks Helmut, great review. Your video made me decide for the MG300. I will be using it mostly for recording so there will be less time spent on tweaking the rather harsh MG30 tone. For me the MG300 sounds more "organic". Certainly more pleasant to the ear. Weiter so!
cool video thanks. my concern is limited control the 2 channel extar addon is nt enough. can you test hooking this up to a usb floorboard foot controller?
This was the best Video on both units i have seen i have the 300 and i as on the fence on getting the 30 now i know what too do thanks and i do use the the mg 300 live it is awesome you just have to set it up in rear mode not studio or front and if you want too use any stacking of pedals you must have it on bypass or it will conflict with all the sounds
Great review Credence Clearwater, AC/DC, Clapton, John Mayer, Dire Straits… all the music I grew up with… and we got to hear “edge of break-up” tone instead of too many reviews which are just overly distorted. The 300 sounds good, but to me, the mg-30 sounded ‘real’ and included the upper frequency spectrum. I think the IR is better in the 30 but both sound good.
It's not an app for your phone or tablet, but a program on your computer (MAC or Windows). You can download it from NUX Homepage (at the bottom of MG30 or 300 section). www.nuxefx.com
@@helmutshatner I didn't mention that I have the NU-X MG20 and it's probably an expensive pedal only and it will not work with the computer software (Quicktone). :)
can i record using mg300 without audiointerface? or its better to record with audiointerface? im beginner and not yet tried to record on my laptop. thank you.
Yes, you can record without an audiointerface by using the MG-300´s USB connection. Just choose it as AUDIO IN on your computer´s audio settings. To do so on Windows, you might need to download ASIO drivers from the NUX homepage.
Have you tried looper on MG-30? I wonder if it's possible to change effects for different loop recording? For example record clean background loop first and then on top of that overdrive lead?
@@helmutshatner cool I’ve been wondering and you just sold a unit! Couldn’t do that with my Hotone mp-10. Going to busk With Loop Core Deluxe, a BeatBuddy, and MG 30 in stereo, Into a Roland cube street and Crate Limo. Might have to get a roadie. Ha! I’ll be able to give the Hotone to my cousin up in Canada!
@@jimm8594 Yeah I did too if you look on the bottom of my video pages, The songs dolphin dance, And whatever is under IMG were done that way. That was just puttering around in the house but I’m itching to get out and Busca Rooney!
what do you recommend for me to buy first for recording? as of now i'm thinking of mg300 or audiointerface scarlett solo? i cant decide what to buy first. or mg300 is good and no need to buy an interface? i only have a laptop guitar and headphone. thank you.
Thanks for your review and clearly explaining the strengths of both units, I like simple so the mg300 would be great for me but I can see the mg30 being popular with more advanced players.
After working with the MG-300 for about 6 months I got used to some "bad habits" (like cranking up the amp Master Volume to adjust patch-levels). You can´t do that with the MG-30 as it simulates power amp section like a real amp. After getting used to adjust patch volume with the new Level knob and don´t crank up the amp Master Volume anymore, it´s as easy to create good sounds from scratch as it is with the MG-300.
Great review! Both sound amazing. As I can see, the presets software can be used in Mac, right? Could I load presets downloaded from another user from the Windows version? Even in the 30 or the 300? Thank you so much.
@@helmutshatner oh, so the only way is by creating the presets manually right? For instance, can I copy the presets shown in this video? th-cam.com/video/FXEBuSheLjQ/w-d-xo.html Thanks!!
Excellent review. Thank you. Could you explain anyway, why in some sound comparison the settings were different between the two? I was surprised by the difference in sound, but then I noticed that in quite a few cases the settings were different.
Thank you! MG-30 offers bass and 3 acoustic IRs, but therefore less e-guitar cabs. That´s why i had to choose different cabs in some patches. But the most difference I found out afterwards is, that MG-30 handles AMP Master Volume different. Whilst MG-300 uses only one power amp, MG-30 simulates different ones like EL34, 6L6, etc. AMP Master Volume at MG-300 is more or less just a Volume knob, whilst MG-30 simulates different GAIN stages just like a real amp.
@@helmutshatner thanks for all the info! May I ask is it difficult to get the volumes fairly close in/and level across the board? Like at least 20 presets that you could switch through live where the volumes we’re all even and didn’t jump or dive?
@@helmutshatner very informative, i guess for those who has experience with bunch of tube amps their lives will appreciate this, on the other hand beginners wont fosure
My friend, I am an old guitar player and not so much into tech stuff...I could learn. But my question is, could I use this live and easily click between say 3 of the oresets. I know it comes with the 2 button foot switch, and I know this is a dumb question, but what I'd like is to hook it up to 2 amps and play stereo...live, and I wonder if that's feasible or is it mainly something for recording? Thanks so much, I'm borrowing a lot of your chord inversions, you are an awesome player.
I’m also a not so young guitar player and am wondering exactly the same thing. The price is ridiculously low and the simplicity might be enough for me to justify giving up heavy the amps!
@@anthroknight The headphone out is stereo. You could use a 3.5mm Stereo jack lead ending in a Left and Right 1/4" standard guitar jack plug/s. You can then set the output in the NUX to suit the amp system/s you are going into :)
Hi! I have a little question... For the mg-30, it's possible to record a basic loop, with drum etc and after when the loop is OK, to stop only the loop and plays on the drum in solo, and to restart the loop when you want? I hope my question is clear. Thanks for answer
VOLUME works linear at the end of overall signal chain. If you want to control as a guitar volume knob, here is the way: assgin the EXP to control AMP'S Gain or Volume.
@@nickojohnodtujan2795 I understand and follow your logic behind that, but I am afraid, that´s not possible yet. NUX used to be very helpful with MG-300 firmware updates and really listened to their user comments. Please also post your thread at the new MG-30 Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/235789377906364
Great review! I am very interested in the mentioned "pseudo stomp box mode" with the additional footswitch. Would be great to see a video how to setup and use this. I always appreciate your videos and your help on the FB user groups. You deserve more subscribers :-)
Dankeschön! That's not exactly a tutorial about the pseudo stompbox mode and also with additional pedals. But maybe it gives you an idea about the included NMP-2 footswitch th-cam.com/video/sBxZ1fMRKu4/w-d-xo.html
@@helmutshatner Danke 😃 So what I understand is to switch on additional pedals in one setting but not to be able to lets say assign different presets to one button. Like preset 7B on button 1 and 3A on the other.
@@WernerNoethe Yep, you are right. You need to store patches next to each other to reach them with up/down. Like let´s say 1B is your basic sound. 1A has DLY and maybe a boost for clean leads and 1C could have OD, DLY... A MIDI footcontroller could surely take care such a task way more efficient.
Much thanks for all the details - especially those I haven't been able to find elsewhere - like the inclusion of the dual delay (I wasn't sure if I'd still have to buy the Duo-Time separately) subbed :) I have a barely used H9 from years ago - it'll finally find its purpose hooked to the MG-30 Send... The last thing I haven't been able to figure out is how good the looper is. Did they stuff the full Looper Core Deluxe into the MG-30 or is it just a basic looper?
I’m about ready to buy one of these (MG30) and pretty interested in that feature for busking, and stereo and other features for home recording. I have a LoopCore Deluxe, and I seriously doubt they have that much inside. It would be great but I bet it’s probably a minute or less with no storage capability. I’m sure it’s in the future-The ultimate busker- “Busk a Nux”... Wait! “The Nux Busker”
@@LTJR. Amazon claimed to deliver my pre-order for the MG-30 on March 22. Now its indefinitely delayed :( I wish you better luck! Or you could decide for the "Headrush Looper Board", those seem to be immediately available and have a really solid looper plus all the FX shebang...
Thanks a lot, this video has cleared a lot of my confusion, but can we get a mg 30 vs ampero one video, and if not, than can you please help me to know which one of them sounds better than the other?
@@helmutshatner no probs, but can you make video on its acoustic guitar simulation, I really want to know how close electric guitar can sounds like acoustic through mg30 simulations!
@@02rendy52 the 30 sounds more realistic, like you’re standing next to the amp. The 300 sounds more like the music on the radio, mixed down and rounded. I think I enjoy the 300 more for its purpose.
Thanks for your videos. I think one of the differences has to be due to the input level, asuming modeling and factory IRs are the same. Now you have the pre-eq block, but there must be something different hardware wise on the input. It would be nice a comparison with your analog NUX drives in front of both of the units
I think the biggest difference is, how AMP master volume reacts. Whilst at the MG-300 it's more or less just a volume knob, the MG-30 reacts like a real amp and breaks up the higher you go.
Under 150 euro for a do-all effects unit and interface (not to mention the good quality)? I was expecting it to be at least twice as expensive and not sound as good but I'm surprised.
I commend you on this review. I also appreciate your speech at the start as to why your opinion will be so honest. You actually should have more subscribers. Your song selections for the amp models are fantastic. I am watching this from my tv with digital into a fairly expensive audiophile stereo setup. The first sound comparison gave a huge improvement to the mg30, then the mg300 started to sound much better, much more natural. I just wish the mg300 had a headphone output. I'd take the mg300 any day, especially for the money, and even more so if you are going into an amp. If I got into some serious recording, I might consider the mg30. I don't see an issue with using the mg300 live, you just need to secure it properly as it's a little light. Great comparison. I subscribed. P.S. In 25 years time, people will be looking for the vintage mg300, not the mg30, mark my words.
10:35 the Suzie Q comparison. No denying. Mg300 sounds like a nice amp. Mg30 sounds like some crappy little thin solid state in a large room. I'm listening on high quality headphones. Just no denying it unfortunately. 😢
Idk about the Zoom, but the MG-300 is great value for the money! There's a MG-300 user group on Facebook. Maybe join there and see what the users write about it.
I bought the mg-30 just for home use and I lasted a week with it before sending it back and buying the mg-300 just because its more guitar only and I find it simple to use and with the update its a fantastic home pedal. Loads and loads of fee ir downloads available online. At home all I use is guitar into the pedal pedal out into my studio speakers and my old surface Pro plugged in just because it makes it easy to select amps and cabs pedals only because of the small display. I never use them live its always amps and my pedal board but for home use or practice with headphones its great! Thecmg-30 was just a bit much for what I want ( I'm 50 years old ) I like simple and easy ( main amp is vintage super reverb ) and the MG-300 is just that. I'll never record with it I just use it as my main home practice 'amp'!
Wow, to my ears the 300 sounds better! How did you get the interface on the left? Is that showing up in Garage Band, or is that the NUX window side by side with Garage Band? Great demo, thanks
Appreciated the honest review, not easy to find these days. Still, my stompboxes smoke my MG300 in quality and presence. Modellers are just not the same, but hey, for the price of a looper it is a reasonable buy
Thanks, mine is coming soon. I did not like fhe built quality of fhe 300 and that "moody" usb connexion made me return it. I don't gig, this will me my silent practice/learning tool, using a lot of the looper and rythms. Cheers!
Hey Helmut, thanks for the excellent comparison👍. I have the mg300 already quite some time and I like it very much, now I know for sure not to go for the mg30, thanks again👍. Btw I liked Suzie Q, may be you can show some day how to play that one😉
I am afraid I made the MG-30 look bad in this video - but it's definitely not! As it's algorithms are way more complex than the ones at the MG-300, it does not work to just use the same settings to compare both units. Whilst MG 300 uses only one amp model in the power section, MG-30 uses different models like EL34, 6L6, etc. Therefore it also creates GAIN situations at higher AMP Master Volume settings. This is the reason, why in this video most MG-30 sounds are "crunchier" than MG-300.
@@helmutshatner ok, I understand, so with other settings you can get the same sounds as with the mg300. I stopped with regular gigging, so I am not sure I need the MG30, but it is cheap and also nice for in the studio. Thanks Helmut👍
@@helmutshatner Nux has nice stuff, also got the Mighty Air amp and the mighty plug, I love the sounds, especially the Plexi is great and better then most of the other amp modelers. I own line6 amps and pedals, and Zoom stuff, but I really like NUX. I guess NUX is a keeper🤗. Thnx👍
How is the sound quality comparison between MG30 and 300? I meant fidelity? I have a zoom G1x and an old rp355. Comparing the two zoom is like hearing through a cheap 20 bucks headphones comparing to RP355. I want need the same audio quality if I were to replace my rp355. Amp modeling accuracy is secondary as that is always a matter of taste. Thx.
Great video Helmut, and it's good to see that your number of subscribers has doubled (including me!). Generally I prefer the sounds of the 300, and the price too, but if I understand correctly the 300 would not be able to have a mild overdrive AND then use a tubescreamer for example to add some additional drive for solos? Or is there a way around this? I'm thinking of live playing not recording. Thanks a lot and keep up the great work!
Thanks for your kind words! I haven't used the MG-300 for quite some time, but have noticed that there were plenty of firmware upgrades. Please check the NUX MG-300 GROUP DISCUSSION & PATCHES Facebook group to answer your question.
@@helmutshatner sorry for my long delay in getting back to you Helmut, but unfortunately just after this time I suffered a massive stroke and am only just now beginning to use my right hand again to be able to type! But on a positive note I’m just also starting to relearn how to play guitar after 50 years! So it’s more important than ever for me to sort through all of my equipment to sell off guitars and amps I’ll never be able to use again. Therefore given that I now play quite poorly, I’m going to order the MG-300 as it seems simpler to use, especially given that I’ll only ever use 4 or 5 different sounds! But I might also no longer need my full pedalboard either, and one box might be easier than loads of different pedals! I’ll decide if I need a FRFR speaker later or just use my passive monitors. Keep up the great work and stay well :)
@@anthroknight Tony, So sorry to hear of your stroke. Quite a blow to have to re-learn so much. I m getting old and experiencing diminishing abilties, but in a slow progression, not all at once. Best of luck in your recovery!
Thank you for review, it seems like MG30 has an HD sound and MG300 just lower resolution sound. Other than that it's quite similar our could be tweaked with EQ.
The MG-300 is fine for the bedroom player but once I start recording I will definitely need to upgrade. I am curious if the rhythm sounds and the looper length were improved as well. I enjoy using those features for practicing my timing and recording musical ideas.
Stumbled upon you channel. Great demo. However, I seen a lot of reviews of this incredibly awesome bang for the buck product. But, I have just one complaint. Which is very important for me. Know one has been able to say if you can save your created loops, and come back to them to practice, and jam. Who wants to constantly recreate loops. I for one don't have the time. I just wantvto back to them and jam, when I'm done then I'll create a new one. Like I said incredible product, but...
Both units are incredible value for the money, especially soundwise and considering the included amp models and effects. I am not a looper-guy, but would say the looper and drums are just some very basic (free) add-ons. Loops can't be stored and I don't even think, this will ever be possible with one of the up-coming firmware updates.
I'd say MG30 sounds more clear and open than 300. It's hard (or even impossible) to make a device sound clear, but it's easy to EQ to make it sound warmer/muddy. May be we hear it due to an improvement on the IR block: 1024 samples (which is still not so big, 2048 is quite enough) instead of rough 512 ones. Overall it's an impressive upgrade. 3 switches are big deal too.
Beautiful comparative. Obviously the 30 "wins" has a more beautiful sound, but even the 300 does not look bad at all in comparison I did not think .. But above all you are a great guitarist, I have rarely heard a guitar play like this, congratulations! I forgot .. I register immediately, thanks again for this wonderful comparison, more and more enthusiastic about having ordered the mg 30, in a few days I will arrive, I am excited I can't wait Edit: In fact I think they just have two different sounds, I don't think there is a winner, the mg 300 is gorgeous too
I don't get it. In your video the mg30 sounds NOTHING like the mg300 for most sounds. I haven't heard that in other video. In fact in your vid, the mg30 sounds were overly distorted. Was something wrong? Also you didn't mention what seems to be the biggest difference... The mg30 is stereo!
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I'll take an honest review over a sponsored, possibly biased review anytime. Your review was worth the wait, I enjoyed it.
I am also pretty new with "amp modelers". My "struggles" maybe just mirror what many might experience. The MG-300 was plug, play and get a really good sound, whilst the MG-30 needs quite some tweaking to get it right... But I am working on it ;-)
Thanks for your comment!
The only reason I found this post is because someone had a used MG-300 for sale on Facebook Marketplace here in town. Because of other reviews, but mostly this one, I decided to go take a look and a listen. I was lucky that the seller was an older gentleman that owned a dozen guitars, writes music using several DAWS, has an amp collection, and has played guitars for years. He hooked it up and we went through all the different options. It was like new, and came with the original box and paperwork. And I got it for $60. My grandson and I have been having a blast playing with it the last couple of days. Thanks for your great review and demonstration. I liked the video and subscribed to your channel. Take care.
Excellent review. Your English is easier to understand than many English speaking countries dialects!
Ok, so you just like 💩 on people who speak English as a primary language and you don’t like how they sound compared to others… got it.
Totally appreciate this great comparison! Like several others here, was waiting for the 30, but based on sound, the 300 blows it out of the water. Much more organic.
Thanks for the review. I would caution folks in the quick assumption that the 300 sounds better than the 30 based on this video alone. While it may seem to in this video, there is a factor called the modeler sweet spot. That is the settings that sound best in a particular amp model or modeled pedal. Often it involves a tone or EQ setting to sound darker or brighter. This video is the sweet spot of the 300 captured well. However, instead of finding the sweet spot of settings for the 30, it was set with the same settings as the 300. Such a method doesn't present the best that each unit has to offer. If the good settings on the 30 had been set on the 300, it would probably sound muddier (as the models in the 30 seem brighter). You see this in analog drive pedals too. A company tweaks a circuit to make a newer version, and sometimes the tone or gain settings that worked on the old version don't sound great on the new one. If you want to hear how good the 30 can sound, check out Pete Thorn's demo. If you still prefer the 300, cool, but hear the 30 properly set first.
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Or just buy the better option...the MG 300.
@@matthazelby506 better by which metric, Matt?
I think the competition for the mg30 is much steeper than for the mg300. The 300 is just best in class at its price range, while the 30 has to compete. It’s probably still the most budget friendly at its capability, but it’s already not a budget pedal anymore. Great comparison!
Edit: the 30 is more realistic sounding, tbf. But I think I like the 300s sound more, weirdly enough. Sounds like it’s been mixed down a bit, while the 30 sounds more raw, unedited.
in a live situation, in my opinion the mg-300 will punch mo.cause it sound louder, as if the mic is placed nearer the speaker and the mg-30 further away from the speaker ...
Excellent video ! Very well done. All bases are well covered here . I recently purchased the MG300 and am very impressed and very happy with it in every aspect of sounds and functions . I wanted a small desk top unit for my personal recordings . This unit is of even more value than I thought . Simply fantastic, and so enjoyable to use . No bad sounds like some older modelers I used to have . This machine sounds and feels so good that when I plugged back into one of my all tube Marshall amps ... It was not fun anymore . At all . I much prefer the sounds and feel of the MG 300 ! Thanks for the great informative video .
I own a 300 and the 30 sure sounds a bit brighter on the recordings ! I have used the 300 for live and definitely did a good job for clean gain sounds.
I think I’ll keep the LUX MG 300.
Vic Canada
I think the MG30 sounds more authentic and realistic. The MG300 is good sounding for it's price. I think I would personally try out the MG30 over the 300 as it sounds just a tad more authentic and it looks gig worthy. Nice comparison video. Thank you!
Wow... I'm speechless. Was saving my money for the MG30 until this video. MG300 just added to my shopping cart.
I'm surprised. The MG-30 is way better than the MG-300.
And the MG-300 has a fairly flimsy plastic case, so not quite as ready for doing gigs with.
I'll just say compare them carefully before you decide. You'll find great comparisons of FX boards at Leo Gibson's channel...
@@Pharesm yes, leo did the job better
Thank you for the excellent video and I will also check out the NUx 30 video , looking to replace my older pod 2 from some 20 yrs ago. Was looking at the Newer POD GO but this seems to be a good unit to buy because I don't have the money for the line six pod. Again thank you for the update and also the screen is great for my aging eyes.
Awesome review!! Totally honest and unbiased, loved the comparison set up and the comment about putting on glasses (been there many times). I encourage all looking at these two units to watch yours. Also for choosing to perform unselfishly with only audible, giving viewers full opportunity to see the important stuff without showing off your amazing guitar talents… but actually you did anyways 😊along with you’re ability to assemble a professional video. I thank you again👍👍
Great video man!!! you were very honest, my young youtuber we will watch your career with great interest!!!
Great review /comparison mate!
Great job!! Thank you for this review!
Very good review without bias. MG30 looks more versatile & durable looking as well as more options & functionality. But comparing the sound tones & price affordability, I think MG300 is still the better option for me - more compact & easy options for user. Thanks again for your efforts to make this review. Keep up the good work!
Great video and review! You've got a new sub out of it. I'll be checking out your other videos. Keep up the great work. God bless and rock on!
The best video on the MG 30 out yet
Danke shoen Helmut! Nicely discussed and described! Very good info here!
Is the MG-30 twice the modeler for twice the price of the MG-300? I don't think so. Thanks for the great review.
Great video and guitar playing buddy. New subscribed here now. Nice channel. Thanks 😎👍👌💯🎸🎸. I prefer the mg 30. Durability is a big deal and more options. 👍👌💯 Both sound good though
Sir I am using an oldschhol amp how do I plug it to amp if I get the MG30. I am so sad because I destroyed my mg300 out of frustration it was giving me alot of software issues footswitch and cabinet sounded bad. Now I am planning ro get mg 30😢
Thanks for the video. Does the MG-300 have stereo output via its single jack socket?
Not, that i know.
Yes its a TRS stereo out. Just buy splitter to two times mono.
Excellent review !!
Great review and honest.
Thanks Helmut, great review. Your video made me decide for the MG300. I will be using it mostly for recording so there will be less time spent on tweaking the rather harsh MG30 tone. For me the MG300 sounds more "organic". Certainly more pleasant to the ear.
Weiter so!
cool video thanks. my concern is limited control the 2 channel extar addon is nt enough. can you test hooking this up to a usb floorboard foot controller?
Yes, I think I have read about that. But the foot controller needs to be capable of MIDI to USB.
@@helmutshatner are you heading in that direction?
@@agency1000x I´m not using MIDI controller, but instead some additional pedals I had anyway:
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This was the best Video on both units i have seen i have the 300 and i as on the fence on getting the 30 now i know what too do thanks and i do use the the mg 300 live it is awesome you just have to set it up in rear mode not studio or front and if you want too use any stacking of pedals you must have it on bypass or it will conflict with all the sounds
Great Review :) Subscribed
Thank you, nice review. Really like the comparison.
Great review
Credence Clearwater, AC/DC, Clapton, John Mayer, Dire Straits… all the music I grew up with… and we got to hear “edge of break-up” tone instead of too many reviews which are just overly distorted.
The 300 sounds good, but to me, the mg-30 sounded ‘real’ and included the upper frequency spectrum. I think the IR is better in the 30 but both sound good.
Nice review. I'm sold on the mg30.
Good stuff. Subscribed my friend !
Hello! Great video. Where can I find Quicktone app??
It's not an app for your phone or tablet, but a program on your computer (MAC or Windows). You can download it from NUX Homepage (at the bottom of MG30 or 300 section). www.nuxefx.com
Nice honest review. Great channel. Subbed!
hi sir, what about the new 400 vs 300... ? is it worth it to get the new one? its a pretty significant price difference between the two in India..
Great comparison. Where do I down load the software to control the Nu-X processor on my computer?
www.nuxefx.com/mg-30.html. At the bottom of this page!
@@helmutshatner I didn't mention that I have the NU-X MG20 and it's probably an expensive pedal only and it will not work with the computer software (Quicktone). :)
Gday, i am torn between mg20 and the 300, what do you think? And what was the song you played in the demo before lay down sally?
can i record using mg300 without audiointerface? or its better to record with audiointerface? im beginner and not yet tried to record on my laptop. thank you.
Yes, you can record without an audiointerface by using the MG-300´s USB connection. Just choose it as AUDIO IN on your computer´s audio settings. To do so on Windows, you might need to download ASIO drivers from the NUX homepage.
@@helmutshatner can i connect it on monitor speakers?
@@Bryan-wz5vb Yes sure. That´s how I use it as well.
Have you tried looper on MG-30? I wonder if it's possible to change effects for different loop recording? For example record clean background loop first and then on top of that overdrive lead?
Yes, double press to EXIT, in the meantime the DRUM & LOOPER are still working, you can choose different PRESET and re-enter to LOOPER again.
@@helmutshatner cool I’ve been wondering and you just sold a unit! Couldn’t do that with my Hotone mp-10. Going to busk With Loop Core Deluxe, a BeatBuddy, and MG 30 in stereo, Into a Roland cube street and Crate Limo. Might have to get a roadie. Ha!
I’ll be able to give the Hotone to my cousin up in Canada!
@@LTJR. I created a patch that lowered my pitch an octave so I could add a bass line too.
@@jimm8594 Yeah I did too if you look on the bottom of my video pages, The songs dolphin dance, And whatever is under IMG were done that way. That was just puttering around in the house but I’m itching to get out and Busca Rooney!
Thanks great video
I think i will get one when it comes available.
what do you recommend for me to buy first for recording? as of now i'm thinking of mg300 or audiointerface scarlett solo? i cant decide what to buy first. or mg300 is good and no need to buy an interface? i only have a laptop guitar and headphone. thank you.
Then the MG300 is a good start. Good luck
excellent comparison thx
Thanks for your review and clearly explaining the strengths of both units, I like simple so the mg300 would be great for me but I can see the mg30 being popular with more advanced players.
After working with the MG-300 for about 6 months I got used to some "bad habits" (like cranking up the amp Master Volume to adjust patch-levels). You can´t do that with the MG-30 as it simulates power amp section like a real amp. After getting used to adjust patch volume with the new Level knob and don´t crank up the amp Master Volume anymore, it´s as easy to create good sounds from scratch as it is with the MG-300.
@@helmutshatner do you find that as a problem for mg30?
Great review! Both sound amazing. As I can see, the presets software can be used in Mac, right? Could I load presets downloaded from another user from the Windows version? Even in the 30 or the 300? Thank you so much.
Yes, it doesn't make any difference on which OS the prests have been created (WIN or OS). But presets are not compatible between MG 30 and 300.
@@helmutshatner oh, so the only way is by creating the presets manually right? For instance, can I copy the presets shown in this video? th-cam.com/video/FXEBuSheLjQ/w-d-xo.html Thanks!!
@@pedrule You can't transfer presets from MG 300 to MG 30, but you can of course try to recreate them ;-) ;-) ;-)
Nice comparison...Well done.
Phil
NYC Area
Excellent review. Thank you. Could you explain anyway, why in some sound comparison the settings were different between the two? I was surprised by the difference in sound, but then I noticed that in quite a few cases the settings were different.
Thank you! MG-30 offers bass and 3 acoustic IRs, but therefore less e-guitar cabs. That´s why i had to choose different cabs in some patches. But the most difference I found out afterwards is, that MG-30 handles AMP Master Volume different. Whilst MG-300 uses only one power amp, MG-30 simulates different ones like EL34, 6L6, etc. AMP Master Volume at MG-300 is more or less just a Volume knob, whilst MG-30 simulates different GAIN stages just like a real amp.
@@helmutshatner thanks for all the info! May I ask is it difficult to get the volumes fairly close in/and level across the board? Like at least 20 presets that you could switch through live where the volumes we’re all even and didn’t jump or dive?
@@LTJR. Yes it´s fairly easy, as each patch does now have it´s own "Level" that can be stored with the patch.
@@helmutshatner very informative, i guess for those who has experience with bunch of tube amps their lives will appreciate this, on the other hand beginners wont fosure
Can you get a dry signal from the mg300 and use vst plug-ins?
Sure! Just deactivate whatever amps, pedals and IRs you don´t need.
Excellent Review. Thank you.
My friend, I am an old guitar player and not so much into tech stuff...I could learn. But my question is, could I use this live and easily click between say 3 of the oresets. I know it comes with the 2 button foot switch, and I know this is a dumb question, but what I'd like is to hook it up to 2 amps and play stereo...live, and I wonder if that's feasible or is it mainly something for recording? Thanks so much, I'm borrowing a lot of your chord inversions, you are an awesome player.
I’m also a not so young guitar player and am wondering exactly the same thing. The price is ridiculously low and the simplicity might be enough for me to justify giving up heavy the amps!
@@anthroknight I got one and run it into the return of the effects loops in my Boss amps, bypassing everything. Just incredible, I think. I'm done
@@anthroknight The headphone out is stereo. You could use a 3.5mm Stereo jack lead ending in a Left and Right 1/4" standard guitar jack plug/s. You can then set the output in the NUX to suit the amp system/s you are going into :)
Hi! I have a little question... For the mg-30, it's possible to record a basic loop, with drum etc and after when the loop is OK, to stop only the loop and plays on the drum in solo, and to restart the loop when you want?
I hope my question is clear. Thanks for answer
Hi. I haven't worked with the looper/drums at all so far. If you are on Facebook, please post your question there at the MG-30 user group. Thanks
@@helmutshatner Tank you very much for your answer !
Can you put the volume pedal block before the delays and verbs?
VOLUME works linear at the end of overall signal chain.
If you want to control as a guitar volume knob, here is the way: assgin the EXP to control AMP'S Gain or Volume.
@@helmutshatner I want to be able to put it before the delays and after the amplifier.. is it possible?
@@nickojohnodtujan2795 I understand and follow your logic behind that, but I am afraid, that´s not possible yet. NUX used to be very helpful with MG-300 firmware updates and really listened to their user comments. Please also post your thread at the new MG-30
Facebook group:
facebook.com/groups/235789377906364
Great review! I am very interested in the mentioned "pseudo stomp box mode" with the additional footswitch. Would be great to see a video how to setup and use this. I always appreciate your videos and your help on the FB user groups. You deserve more subscribers :-)
Dankeschön! That's not exactly a tutorial about the pseudo stompbox mode and also with additional pedals. But maybe it gives you an idea about the included NMP-2 footswitch
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@@helmutshatner Danke 😃 So what I understand is to switch on additional pedals in one setting but not to be able to lets say assign different presets to one button. Like preset 7B on button 1 and 3A on the other.
@@WernerNoethe Yep, you are right. You need to store patches next to each other to reach them with up/down. Like let´s say 1B is your basic sound. 1A has DLY and maybe a boost for clean leads and 1C could have OD, DLY... A MIDI footcontroller could surely take care such a task way more efficient.
Whats the direct recording latency? Good vid
Both units work well for me in direct recording with a Mac, but others complain about latency on MG300. MG30 is faster than MG300.
Tks a lot. Since I play bass, and I am learning guitar, I think I will go for the MG 30 for the bass modeling too.
Nux mg 300 has a pre select mode?
Do MG-300 patches work with the MG-30 ?
Nope
@@helmutshatner Thank You!
I'm looking for which has smart harmony effects of the two?
The MG-30 is more advanced.
Much thanks for all the details - especially those I haven't been able to find elsewhere - like the inclusion of the dual delay (I wasn't sure if I'd still have to buy the Duo-Time separately) subbed :)
I have a barely used H9 from years ago - it'll finally find its purpose hooked to the MG-30 Send...
The last thing I haven't been able to figure out is how good the looper is. Did they stuff the full Looper Core Deluxe into the MG-30 or is it just a basic looper?
I haven't checked the looper function at all so far. But think (maybe I am wrong) it's just a basic (free) add-on.
I’m about ready to buy one of these (MG30) and pretty interested in that feature for busking, and stereo and other features for home recording. I have a LoopCore Deluxe, and I seriously doubt they have that much inside. It would be great but I bet it’s probably a minute or less with no storage capability. I’m sure it’s in the future-The ultimate busker- “Busk a Nux”... Wait! “The Nux Busker”
@@LTJR. Amazon claimed to deliver my pre-order for the MG-30 on March 22. Now its indefinitely delayed :(
I wish you better luck!
Or you could decide for the "Headrush Looper Board", those seem to be immediately available and have a really solid looper plus all the FX shebang...
awesome review sir..
Does this pedalboard have a Acoustic Guitar simulator?
Yes
Thanks a lot, this video has cleared a lot of my confusion, but can we get a mg 30 vs ampero one video, and if not, than can you please help me to know which one of them sounds better than the other?
I have never owned a Ampero One. Therefore I can't say anything about it. Sorry :-(
@@helmutshatner no probs, but can you make video on its acoustic guitar simulation, I really want to know how close electric guitar can sounds like acoustic through mg30 simulations!
How did you get the mg 30 if it is not for sale yet?
For me MG-30 sounds more digital and MG-300 is more analog (organic)
I agree. Weird.
Good comparison
This is a great video. But I was expecting some Alice in chains riffs from the European Jerry Cantrell clone.
Love your video tks
This confirmed what I found. My 300 sounds way better than my 30. The 30 adds way more gain and high end. Sounds more digital too.
The MG300 sounds 10x better.
i thought so too!
Verdade, o som da MG30 é metálico e áspero, a MG300 é mais macia e soa mais redonda.
I think mg 30 little bit more natural
@@02rendy52 the 30 sounds more realistic, like you’re standing next to the amp. The 300 sounds more like the music on the radio, mixed down and rounded. I think I enjoy the 300 more for its purpose.
the extra 0 at th end made your opinion
Thanks for your videos. I think one of the differences has to be due to the input level, asuming modeling and factory IRs are the same. Now you have the pre-eq block, but there must be something different hardware wise on the input. It would be nice a comparison with your analog NUX drives in front of both of the units
I think the biggest difference is, how AMP master volume reacts. Whilst at the MG-300 it's more or less just a volume knob, the MG-30 reacts like a real amp and breaks up the higher you go.
But you didnt say if you got the NUX multipedals for free...
Under 150 euro for a do-all effects unit and interface (not to mention the good quality)? I was expecting it to be at least twice as expensive and not sound as good but I'm surprised.
Helps that you are an awesome player 👍
Mate so these sound high quality right where the band will sound good with mg30?
The MG-30 is definitely giggable, either direct to PA or through an amp.
@@helmutshatner il be using my marshall jcm tsl with it
@@pauljosse Does it have efx loop? If yes, maybe this video could be interesting for you:
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I commend you on this review. I also appreciate your speech at the start as to why your opinion will be so honest. You actually should have more subscribers. Your song selections for the amp models are fantastic. I am watching this from my tv with digital into a fairly expensive audiophile stereo setup. The first sound comparison gave a huge improvement to the mg30, then the mg300 started to sound much better, much more natural. I just wish the mg300 had a headphone output. I'd take the mg300 any day, especially for the money, and even more so if you are going into an amp. If I got into some serious recording, I might consider the mg30. I don't see an issue with using the mg300 live, you just need to secure it properly as it's a little light. Great comparison. I subscribed.
P.S. In 25 years time, people will be looking for the vintage mg300, not the mg30, mark my words.
10:35 the Suzie Q comparison. No denying. Mg300 sounds like a nice amp. Mg30 sounds like some crappy little thin solid state in a large room. I'm listening on high quality headphones. Just no denying it unfortunately. 😢
Thank you for sharing
Having just discovered and deciding on the MG30 over other companies units, this video is exactly what i need, as the 300 is way cheaper, thanking U
Bro, zoom G3XN or MG-300?
Idk about the Zoom, but the MG-300 is great value for the money! There's a MG-300 user group on Facebook. Maybe join there and see what the users write about it.
@@helmutshatner ok, thanks bro
I bought the mg-30 just for home use and I lasted a week with it before sending it back and buying the mg-300 just because its more guitar only and I find it simple to use and with the update its a fantastic home pedal. Loads and loads of fee ir downloads available online. At home all I use is guitar into the pedal pedal out into my studio speakers and my old surface Pro plugged in just because it makes it easy to select amps and cabs pedals only because of the small display. I never use them live its always amps and my pedal board but for home use or practice with headphones its great! Thecmg-30 was just a bit much for what I want ( I'm 50 years old ) I like simple and easy ( main amp is vintage super reverb ) and the MG-300 is just that. I'll never record with it I just use it as my main home practice 'amp'!
Wow, to my ears the 300 sounds better! How did you get the interface on the left? Is that showing up in Garage Band, or is that the NUX window side by side with Garage Band? Great demo, thanks
NUX window side by side with Garage Band
Appreciated the honest review, not easy to find these days. Still, my stompboxes smoke my MG300 in quality and presence. Modellers are just not the same, but hey, for the price of a looper it is a reasonable buy
Can Nux mg30 record dry signal and processed signal to DAW simultaneously via its USB??
I am not sure about that! Please post your question here:
facebook.com/groups/nuxmg30group/?ref=share
Zoom g5n vs nux mg 30?
Trank you. Very easy to understand you
Thanks, mine is coming soon. I did not like fhe built quality of fhe 300 and that "moody" usb connexion made me return it. I don't gig, this will me my silent practice/learning tool, using a lot of the looper and rythms. Cheers!
Cheers and thank you for supporting my channel.
Hey Helmut, thanks for the excellent comparison👍. I have the mg300 already quite some time and I like it very much, now I know for sure not to go for the mg30, thanks again👍. Btw I liked Suzie Q, may be you can show some day how to play that one😉
I am afraid I made the MG-30 look bad in this video - but it's definitely not!
As it's algorithms are way more complex than the ones at the MG-300, it does not work to just use the same settings to compare both units. Whilst MG 300 uses only one amp model in the power section, MG-30 uses different models like EL34, 6L6, etc. Therefore it also creates GAIN situations at higher AMP Master Volume settings. This is the reason, why in this video most MG-30 sounds are "crunchier" than MG-300.
@@helmutshatner ok, I understand, so with other settings you can get the same sounds as with the mg300. I stopped with regular gigging, so I am not sure I need the MG30, but it is cheap and also nice for in the studio. Thanks Helmut👍
@@tonakkie635 Yes, it easily sounds as good as the MG 300, but needs different settings to get there! Thanks
@@helmutshatner Nux has nice stuff, also got the Mighty Air amp and the mighty plug, I love the sounds, especially the Plexi is great and better then most of the other amp modelers. I own line6 amps and pedals, and Zoom stuff, but I really like NUX. I guess NUX is a keeper🤗. Thnx👍
exactly what I wanted to know.. is it worth the upgrade?
Spoiler alert: Just for the pure amp sounds and direct-recording maybe not. But the MG-30 offers easily enough more to justify it's higher price....
@@helmutshatner thanks you sir.. I would still consider it, since it far more cheaper than any other brand.
How is the sound quality comparison between MG30 and 300? I meant fidelity? I have a zoom G1x and an old rp355. Comparing the two zoom is like hearing through a cheap 20 bucks headphones comparing to RP355. I want need the same audio quality if I were to replace my rp355. Amp modeling accuracy is secondary as that is always a matter of taste. Thx.
Both sound great, tho the MG-30 might need a bit more tweaking, as it offers far more parameters.
Great video Helmut, and it's good to see that your number of subscribers has doubled (including me!). Generally I prefer the sounds of the 300, and the price too, but if I understand correctly the 300 would not be able to have a mild overdrive AND then use a tubescreamer for example to add some additional drive for solos? Or is there a way around this? I'm thinking of live playing not recording. Thanks a lot and keep up the great work!
Thanks for your kind words! I haven't used the MG-300 for quite some time, but have noticed that there were plenty of firmware upgrades. Please check the NUX MG-300 GROUP DISCUSSION & PATCHES Facebook group to answer your question.
@@helmutshatner sorry for my long delay in getting back to you Helmut, but unfortunately just after this time I suffered a massive stroke and am only just now beginning to use my right hand again to be able to type! But on a positive note I’m just also starting to relearn how to play guitar after 50 years! So it’s more important than ever for me to sort through all of my equipment to sell off guitars and amps I’ll never be able to use again. Therefore given that I now play quite poorly, I’m going to order the MG-300 as it seems simpler to use, especially given that I’ll only ever use 4 or 5 different sounds! But I might also no longer need my full pedalboard either, and one box might be easier than loads of different pedals! I’ll decide if I need a FRFR speaker later or just use my passive monitors. Keep up the great work and stay well :)
@@anthroknight Tony, So sorry to hear of your stroke. Quite a blow to have to re-learn so much. I m getting old and experiencing diminishing abilties, but in a slow progression, not all at once. Best of luck in your recovery!
Thank you for review, it seems like MG30 has an HD sound and MG300 just lower resolution sound. Other than that it's quite similar our could be tweaked with EQ.
MG 30 or Ampero one, what better?
MG-30
@@helmutshatner , why do you think so? Can you tell me?
@@stanislavk447 Based on all the comments I read from people who owned both of them.
@@helmutshatner thanks for answer.
The MG-300 is fine for the bedroom player but once I start recording I will definitely need to upgrade. I am curious if the rhythm sounds and the looper length were improved as well. I enjoy using those features for practicing my timing and recording musical ideas.
I am not using drums and looper, but think there are no improvements from MG300 to MG30.
Song title? @12:40?
Shape of my heart - Sting
Stumbled upon you channel. Great demo. However, I seen a lot of reviews of this incredibly awesome bang for the buck product. But, I have just one complaint. Which is very important for me. Know one has been able to say if you can save your created loops, and come back to them to practice, and jam. Who wants to constantly recreate loops. I for one don't have the time. I just wantvto back to them and jam, when I'm done then I'll create a new one. Like I said incredible product, but...
Both units are incredible value for the money, especially soundwise and considering the included amp models and effects. I am not a looper-guy, but would say the looper and drums are just some very basic (free) add-ons. Loops can't be stored and I don't even think, this will ever be possible with one of the up-coming firmware updates.
OMG, the 300 smokes it! I own the 300 btw. I notice a difference in the low mids in favor of the 300. Wow.
Grüße und Danke!
The 300 sounds warmer.
agreed!
I'd say MG30 sounds more clear and open than 300. It's hard (or even impossible) to make a device sound clear, but it's easy to EQ to make it sound warmer/muddy. May be we hear it due to an improvement on the IR block: 1024 samples (which is still not so big, 2048 is quite enough) instead of rough 512 ones.
Overall it's an impressive upgrade. 3 switches are big deal too.
Indeed sounds warmer and better, fully agree 👍
@@ArcanumA I guess you're right👍
@@ArcanumA agreed! Btw, it's 5 switches, as they include a 2-btn footswitch with the mg-30
Beautiful comparative. Obviously the 30 "wins" has a more beautiful sound, but even the 300 does not look bad at all in comparison I did not think .. But above all you are a great guitarist, I have rarely heard a guitar play like this, congratulations! I forgot .. I register immediately, thanks again for this wonderful comparison, more and more enthusiastic about having ordered the mg 30, in a few days I will arrive, I am excited I can't wait
Edit: In fact I think they just have two different sounds, I don't think there is a winner, the mg 300 is gorgeous too
For my ear...
High gain i like mg300
Clean tone i like mg30
Presence or a treble adjustment will go a long way if you're plugging it into an amp. The mg300 is way better. They just got it right the first time.
I don't get it. In your video the mg30 sounds NOTHING like the mg300 for most sounds. I haven't heard that in other video. In fact in your vid, the mg30 sounds were overly distorted. Was something wrong?
Also you didn't mention what seems to be the biggest difference... The mg30 is stereo!
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