The All-New RAZER KISHI ULTRA, Hands-On Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video we take a look at and test out the all new Razer Kishi Ultra.
This Is a great Full size mobile controller and works with android phones and Android Tablets up to 8.8" like the Lenovo legion Y700 plus it works with the iPhone 15 pro max and the ipad Mini. overall this is one of the best mobile telescopic USB C controller on the market but it comes with a high Price tag.
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So for 150 - the sticks are analogue potentiometers (not hall effect magnetic).
But don't worry, it has RGB LEDs.
Yah it’s a no then.. for that price it should have everything to make sure it’s gonna last for as long as possible
yeah these controllers now are more worried about presentation rather than functionality and longevity. but hey you are right about one thing. it has RGB Lights. totally worth the $150 price tag! 🤣
yeah galielo g8 seems better hall effect everything and same shape/size etc so
Gamesir G8 is waaay more worth it
@melxb Hell, the redmagic version looks even better and is still cheaper by far.
150 for a controller? ayyy lmao
The gamesir galileo is cheaper and better
Get a new switch lite for that price
Haha that's soo much money oh no...... then don't buy it
@@enginethatcould5257 Aaaaaallllrighty then! 🤓
@@unpocodefreefire977 mean this IS a gamesir galileo, Im sure they just changed grip for like 5% and slapped x2 price snakes on it :))
100 for a mobile controller is hard sell knowing a series x, Nintendo switch joycon , or ps5 dual sense controller has more advanced tech and quality while being cheaper. 150 for a mobile controller who's the demographic?lol
It's for people like me that travel a lot, love mobile gaming, and can afford luxury products thankfully.
@@eddyg4622 I love mobile gaming and can afford them to and admittedly own several from the kishi v2 , game sir g8, and backbone one . In my experience these controllers are basic compared to the flagship controllers for real consoles,i.e. why do they cost more? It's absolutely nothing about these things that they should cost 100-150$ when they are inferior to a cheaper proper console controller and with less tech as well
For ipad mini owner, this is pretty much the only choice, unless they are opt for Bluetooth controller
@@eddyg4622 yeah that's cool but it's still not worth the price tag I owned a kishi v2 , backbone and v1 honestly for what you get none of them should have been a penny over 50 bucks.the argument isn't can you afford it ..its is the product a decent value at 150 when it's 60$ console controllers that are way higher quality and inclide more tech m
@@eddyg4622 The last one feels like you are flexing
razer being razer
making hilariously high pricing
i really wish someone would make a proper telescopic controler with usb c for bigger tablets like 11 to 12 inches sad times
To 12.6 inches or highers hopefully.. I've been wanting one for my Lenovo P12 Pro
@@equinox7189Are you in the US?
I have the Kishi V1 that I got for $40.... The price is going to leave sometime before I upgrade. Can get a whole handheld for that much.
$80-$100, I would buy it sooner.
$150, I'm going to have to wait for a sale.
i have Razer Kishi v1 and v2. still thinking about gamesir g8
@@starxhilmiefacts i think about the 8 too but in the end i don't end up getting one because those old boys still get the job done, so no rush, but for anyone buying their 1st, these new controllers are clealry going to be much better, i wouldn't bother thinking that hard about it, your attention will be on the games in the end, for me it was about getting to play geforce and later xcloud without the need to purchase expensive pc and really because i just love the feel of laid back up close handheld gaming more so, emulators too and as long as it wasn't touch, i was happy lol but yeah these new controllers will easily be leagues better, if my stuff breaks or starts showing wear, I'm getting one why not
I have the kishi v1. Extremely uncomfortable and not ergonomic. For $150 call me skeptical
No mobile controlle is worth the price of two PS5 controllers 😂... especially not from razer
well that's one of the oldest/first ones made, that was really just a quick made to get the job done attachable controllers for android phones solution vs truly quality and ergonomics focused and what have you, come on now....but guess what i have one too, for years now and it still works and it does still get the job done, again is it the greatest, no, but if u aren't that anal/nitpicky and more focused on your game and as long is u don't have to bother with touch, it's hardly an issue...if u do care, then anything that came after like kishi 2, backbone and others are already much improved, i mean if u never had issues using handhelds with controls like vita, switch lite, gba etc then the gripes with these aren't really going to be any worse/that much different if not better in some cases given they pretty much all have more of a grip than those completely flat handhelds...galielo 8 and this new razr iteration are clealry even more of a step up since they are going for a standard controller shape/size, feel, etc, nothing to be skeptical about nor is kishi v1 an indication of how those will actually feel or really comparable to those...plenty of reputable sources/reviews out there for them too
@melxb tldr. well my solution was to buy a dedicated handheld. love my odin 2.
@@thetg2117 i feel that, geforce worked so well for me being able to run games at max visuals and such a high fps that it's truly indistinguishable from native, couple that with a clean OLED screen on my samsung phone and it's a bonus battery and device not getting crazy hot since it's not running native, all I needed was a controller, xcloud works really well too, but those pc handhelds are enticing
@thetg2117 i hear u, for me, geforcenow has been working so well, truely feels like native and in many ways better given how high fps can pushed all while visuals are at their absolute max settings, dlss and reflex aren't even needed given i only need 1080p max for my phone screen or even 720p looks just as good, leaves so much power, but those features are there as well if needed...truely looks so crisp on my phones oled screen indistinguishable from native, all I needed was a controller, but i will say those pc handheld releases as of late have been enticing, just not sure if I'd enjoy them any better especially given many current games will need to be set to lower bound visual settings and fps just so they can run and then with native play u also gotta factor in heat battery etc vs streaming it's about as stressful on the device as watching a video
I prefer the look of the Kishi V2. It makes my S24 Ultra look like a dedicated handheld with the Spigen Liquid Air case
I just got the Kishi V2 Pro through work for about $40 last week. I'm not a mobile gamer but it's great to mess with on my breaks.
Question to ETA Prime - If price is not a concern, would you prefer to use S24 Ultra with the Kishi Ultra, or Odin 2?
Why won't a company make a controller with a micro SD card slot? You could connect it and have more storage for games!
A controller with a USB-C hub included would be the goat
Been using this for the past few weeks and I absolutely love it especially paired with my iPad Mini 6. One cool touch is that you can actually connect the controller via a USB-C cable to pretty much any device like a phone, a bigger iPad, PC etc. and it’ll get treated like any other normal controller.
thanks for reviewing this. picked up a used backbone for $35 for my 12 pro, upgrading to the 16 pro Max later this year, and have been deciding between this or the Galileo G8
The g8 is so good I don't think any mobile controller is worth 150 lol that's insane
@@gcforreal since I’m waiting on my new phone. Def not paying full price. Was hoping I could find one used. My goal is to be able to also use the controller with my other devices. Which is why I leaned toward the kishi.
@@harveysmith4424 why wouldn't you be able to use the g8 with the same list of devices you use the kishi with the compatibility is the same ..the g8 even has a easy mod that lets it fit tablets
I purchased the razor controller and ended up returning it on my 3rd day of use. I still like the backbone better.
$200 Canadian... for a controller wtf... lol an extra $60-70 you can buy a Switch lite or an Retroid Pocket 4 pro to compare the cost.
I have a S23 and just got my Kishi Ultra. The phone is not "dwarfed" by the controller at all. Very cool controller I just wish it were cheaper.
The ASUS ROG Tessen controller is superior. It has back paddles and it can fold for traveling.
I have had my 8 bit do sn30 pro plus controller with the phone adapter for years and it is still the best, and not expensive in comparison. I will never need to change to something different.
Since I’m in the cloud gaming more than anything, I’ve been wanting to get one of the new iPad mini’s coming out this year and that would be perfect for an 8 inch screen iCloud game all the time anyway, but I want direct USB connection for better latency control mine mainly comes from Bluetooth connectivity
But the REAL question is:
Do I have to remove the case off my phone everytime I want to use this controller?
yes
No, he didn't cover it in the video but you can use this controller with a phone case. The different rubber pads in the box allow you find the most comfortable fitting to you phone with cases (there are only 3 options though).
$150 and just passthrough charging still???
It would be decent if the controller had a hub built into it so you could do usb c charging and also display ult.
If it had that setup it would be great with some AR glasses.
Not sure if it was mentioned in the video, but this controller won me over as it allows you to use a phone case as well. Can't stress enough that S24U is the perfect combo.
Is the Founders Edition just a skin? Design looks cool but from the side, the sticker looks cheap.
nope not a skin, its the design ON the founders edtion controllers
For $150 it better play the games for me
Prefect. That means this should fit the fold 6 no problem.
In your oppinion. Which controller is the best right now for mobile/tablet gaming? Gamesir, razer, scuf nomad others?
That's a crazy price considering the Gamesir G8 is like 60-80 with hall effect sticks. Looks like Razer is up charging the crap out of this controller.
Slight correction at 1:11, the Kishi V1 only uses micro switches for the 3 tiny buttons (home/prev/next). The D-pad, face and shoulder buttons aren't clicky at all, unlike the GameSir X2 Pro that uses micro switches for everything except the analog sticks and triggers.
thx for review, almost buy for my Tab S9
I got this two weeks ago, very happy with it working on my iPhone 15 Pro Max. I wish it were compatible with my M4 iPad Pro 13” though - luckily I have my spare Xbox Series Elite 2 controller to go with the iPad. Only bad thing is that on screen control mapping is not available for iOS
Awesome with 15 pro max. So much better than g8
Was close to getting this, then Scuf announced the Nomad. Looks and features are so much better!
Purchased the scuf nomad for $100 best controller id invested in. Only for iphone at the moment. High quality controller
Awesome controller. Love mine.
I wish some company would make a mobile controller with the Steamdeck layout i.e. face buttons and analogue sticks are positioned where your thumbs naturally rests... even on the Gamesir G8 these layouts are not comfortable to use for long sessions.
Why do they bother, people use 11inch tablets with blutooth, those the most commonly available there is no discernable lag with Bluetooth on modern devices. If they wanted to make a control a simply 1 fits everything would be easy. Two split controller with magnetic backs that stick to every single device no matter what size on the planet.
Something that is never mentioned with these kind of controllers is that the sticks are WAY too vertical with the buttons and the D pad, classic controllers have the sticks more on the sides, but with these, using the sticks become uncomfortable pretty soon.
For $150, a controller without analog triggers and sticks just isn’t worth it. A few months ago, I purchased the BSP D8, which has now become my primary controller for both PC and mobile gaming. I don’t mind the Bluetooth lag during mobile emulation, and for PC, I use it with a wired connection, where it works perfectly. The only aspect I’m not fond of is the rumble. However, considering it cost me only $15, it’s a much better deal compared to this one. plus, it comes with both hall-based triggers and joysticks. which makes it perfect
I have the original kishi i got on clearance. Id just wait until someone sells this second hand and get a good deal for it. Personally i dont care for the microswitch buttons.
You didn't talk about the haptics at all even tho it's the only telescopic controller with haptic motors...
I had thr Razer v1 ..left side stopped worked after 4 months of super light use ...had v2 got rid of it for a backbone then gamsir g8...
So you prefer the g8 over both v2 and backbone? Are you using for iPhone or android? Ty
@@MrArielK prefer the G8 over raxer v2 and backbone. I used them on iOS and Android but way more on android
@@gcforreal even the backbone wow, I though they made the best mobile controller. Thx for the candid response you helped me alot
picked one up and selling my ROG Ally Z1 Extreme. i have a 4080 at home so I'll just use Moonlight / Sunshine to stream to the phone from now on. Battery life on Ally wasn't wonderful and certain things bothered me
Starting to watch now. I’ve been using the kishi v2 religiously so let’s find out how good this is lol
Yiooo it’s built from that model in the best way. The upgrades etc sweeett
I prefer how the Kishi 1 can be collapsed into a smaller package when not in use.
With all the dedicated handheld devices that can play AAA games, there's no reason to consider horrible mobile gaming.
Thank you, awesome vid as always. There's a nifty Samsung feature (S22 onward) called Pause USB Power Delivery. Basically a pd type c charger powering the phone directly, bypassing battery. Does the ultra type c support this? cause my kishi v2 does not.
The kishi v2 is goated hope this one holds up
The kishi v1 does use conductive rubber, I believe you were referring to the V2
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when you gonna release the video on snapdragon x elite
Sounds like a great Black Friday wishlist item.
(Idk) is there not a smaller version of the s9?
Need a video on the BSP D9 full size dual sense style Bluetooth controller that's less than a third of the price of the kishi v2 regular and compatible with just about every device on the market!
But can you transfer data via the power pass through or it that still na lol
167 euro on amazon ,sorry are you nuts? are you drinking dishcleaner or sniffing second glue... what in hell is it worthy to pay 170 euros... tze lol...sick ...only sick! 50 bugs ok... but noooottttt 170... there must be an issue in the matrix
The kishi ultra supports the y700 2024 with no modifications???
I wish someone would make an Android handheld with a 7-8-inch screen, full-sized controllers, a powerful enough chipset to run everything in the Appstore. That would be the definitive mobile-gaming experience. They don't even have to go all out. Something with a previous-gen snapdragon 8 gen chipset and 8gb of ram would work well while keeping cost down. The AYN Odin 2 is amazing example of this, but it uses a smaller screen. We're so close yet so far from a definitive mobile-gaming device. If we can stay around the $300 price point for a true definitive mobile-gaming device, that would be a great buy and have amazing battery life because of the ARM chipset.
I am interested in these full size controllers... but $150? Idk... I think the GameSir G8 feels expensive at $79
bsp d9 thank me later 😂
I bought the first razer kishi and it wasn't even compatible with COD mobile, which was what I bought it for lol so many cheaper options out there
I spent $150 on this just for that dpad!
$150? No phone controller is worth this. EasySMX M10 Type-C is 30ish on Ali. Features both hall sensor sticks AND triggers. To me this is all you need and the ergonomics. Don't need RGB
That price is crazy for a controller.
Naaahhh...Gaming phones are dead.. and buried
Get a PC Handheld or get an Android handheld or a Switch 2 when it comes.
R.I.P. Gaming Phones and Phone Controllers 💀⚰️🥀
I wish someone would make an Android handheld with a 7-8-inch screen, full-sized controllers, a powerful enough chipset to run everything in the Appstore. That would be the definitive mobile-gaming experience. They don't even have to go all out. Something with a previous-gen snapdragon 8 gen chipset and 8gb of ram would work well while keeping cost down. The AYN Odin 2 is amazing example of this, but it uses a smaller screen. We're so close yet so far from a definitive mobile-gaming device. If we can stay around the $300 price point for a true definitive mobile-gaming device, that would be a great buy and have amazing battery life because of the ARM chipset.
Never again razer kishi!!!
I've been looking for the founder's edition since you released this video and I can't find it anywhere. It doesn't even show up on any website
Seems like such a missed opportunity to not make this compatible with the larger 11inch ipads
You can literally buy a play station portal for ps5 at this price
Bought the Kishi V2 in January last year and the dpad is already working only like 50% of the time which is pretty disappointing for a 110€ controller.
How well does it handle devices with cases, in regard to the USB-C connector making a proper connection?
Yo Prime, can you make a video on controllers that'll fit the bigger tablets...
Just buy the Gamesir G8 voor ~$60
Im surprised razer hasnt just made a portable yet. It seems like this is the exact type of product they would make, weird.
The new scuf controller is $99 and destroys this thing. It has Hall effect and is the best mobile controller
After Razer Edge Cloud Gaming Handheld that All-New Backbone like controller Razer Kishi Ultra what was showed in the Last Week looks so good and it's the Better if it can handle even a tablet too, I have Samsung Galaxy tablet and Samsung Galaxy s24 phone, it would be nice to buy a backbone for my phone like Playstation Backbone, Razer Edge or Kishi Ultra. Which of these are better? That video was good thank you Razer and Eta! 💚🖤
So not able to do data pass through ?
Like for external storage.
I bought a previous version of the razor controller and it stopped working after a few months, usb c connection issues would constantly connect and disconnect itself, looking online many people have the same issue I'd stay away
Id be very grateful if you could include steam link and moonlight in testing.
If the android game support controller out of the box, is it possible to make custom ON SCREEN KEYMAPPER?
Surprised you didn't give the gamesir x4 aileron a shot
In a world where the GameSir Galileo 8 exists ($60-$80), there's no way anyone is going to put $150 into this stuff 🤧
Ps: and the observation I made, there is almost zero comparison between this controller and the G8 Galileo, it's clearly an injunction from Razer.
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I have the moto z4 and the gamepad "mod" its cramped as hell. Hurts my hands playing code Veronica with it. Im hoping to get something a lot more ergonomic.
it will be better if they add cooler😅 its for gaming so the device get hot😅 why not build cooler plus controller😅
the "founders edition" looks like cheap chinese stickers
that telescope bar looks like will break in 2 week inside a backpack
no thankyou, all yours
Super overpriced but loving it with my iPad mini 6.
Hello! I really like your channel! Could you tell me if this joystick would work on an Eee PC (netbook) running the Batocera System? Thank you!
I'll buy it when its half the price 150 is a stretch
RAZR is known for pricing high but this this is DOA at $150
No Hall sticks and $150? Instant no thanks.
Hard to pull of Shoruykens with the D-Pad? Weak sauce.
You can buy 5 BSP d8 for this price
Like seriously why will I buy this thing for repairability when I can just buy a new one
Man if only this would fit a 2023 iPad :(
That price alone is absolutely ridiculous.
The price is too high for a mobile controller, especially with options like Backbone at $99. This controller needs unique features to justify the cost. With more mobile controllers being announced, hopefully prices will decrease in the future.
Id argue 100 is too high for a backbone (I own one and several other mobile controllers ) the quality you get for 100 compared to what a PS5 , joycon or Xbox controller offers for cheaper in comparison has to make you think why are these things so expensive lol
@@gcforreal wow didn’t know it was that bad lol. But aside from the quality, so you think it is worth it for someone who plays a lot with their phone?
Worried about Bluetooth latency on mobile but meanwhile on consoles...
Probably better that it is not fast charging for temp and battery life purposes
150 dollars, the analogs aren't hall effect, the goddamn dpad is still not on PlayStation style (I really goddamn wished a telescopic controller that could be like the one on the PS Portal, that thing looks so damn amazing controller-wise)
But hey, average Razer lights? :)
Pass
Damn they cant just make one that fits large tablets.
i want one for ipad pro i hope gamesir release one
Hmmm can I buy the rubber things by itself? Similar?
add 40 dollars you'll have a ps portal remote player. razer is fk hilarious with their pricing.