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In regard to glass shower door... Would a shower curtain be needed to provide privacy, when traveling with other people? Appears to be see thru. Kindly advise. Thank you.
Thanks NEIL, appreciate the honest review of our product. Our objective was to utilize as much space as possible. The TREK model was designed as our adventure coach- tremendous storage and split beds for loading of bikes and other adventure items. For those who want a larger kitchen and a larger bed, we offer the TOUR model, which is designed for those consumers. Two issues are mentioned several times on this review- bed size and shower. First, I'm 6'5" and tall accommodations are attractive. With this model, in order to make the bed longer we would lose 11 inches from galley, making it unusable and 30" on the driver side, eliminating the front jump seat, storage and viewing area. Floor plans are about trade offs- which is why we offer several lay outs and allow people to choose what is more important to them. As to the bathroom, we looked at the opportunity to add a taller shower. Due to the upper cap construction and structure, their isn't any room to increase the shower height. We did carve out storage above the shower along the inside. As a taller person, we make accommodations constantly in life. Chairs, air plane seats, driving all are different when you are not a normal size human. I can sleep in a TREK. I can shower in TREK. With the headroom , I can be very comfortable in the TREK when it matters most- when I'm actually using it. Thanks again Neil.
Thanks for the comment Don. For the benefit of our viewers do you mind introducing yourself? Also I think you can see from viewer comments that there is wide hope that someone, maybe Regency RV should consider manufacturing an RV that meets the needs of taller folks. It's an untapped market. What are your thoughts on that?
Neil, I just love your reviews. I feel like I am learning so much about Class B vans. I keep making up my mind of which one I want, and then I watch another one of your videos and I have to decide all over again!
Just a word about Regency. I took a close look at the Ultra Brougham, Class B +. The brochure says that the inverter is 150 watt pure sine. I thought it was a misprint, so I emailed the company. No response. I then called their Fort Worth Texas headquarters, and was told that it is in fact not a misprint. According to a Rep, the inverter is only intended to run the television. Huh??
Love your reviews and info! No fluff and your opinions come from knowledge and research and you always tell us why something is your personal preference. Great job! Keep up the good work. Your channel is the reason I’m actually looking at a class B
Neil, I would like to see a video (or at least a Q&A segment) on Class B campervan *LENGTH*, talking about all the different lengths of Class Bs (presumably 18 to 24 feet?) and most importantly the specific pros and cons of each length. For example, I know that anything longer than a 19' is not able to fit into a standard parking space, right? I happened to see that some forest land in Oregon has a length limit of 27' on RVs in campsites. Someone else said that anything over, I think, 25' is required to park in a separate area with tour buses. I saw where some towns consider anything over 22 feet to be "oversized" and cannot park longer than 24 hours. (They also consider any height over 9 feet to be "oversized", which would restrict even some shorter Class Bs.) I think it would be interesting and useful to people considering a Class B to learn about specific restrictions by length! It would sure be useful to me, that's for sure! What's more, I don't see anyone else covering this topic! Thank you!
flyshacker if Neil covers this great idea, I hope he adds height! I just met the owner of an Airstream Class B who told me his height has been an issue.
Thanks, Neal, another great video! It is very disappointing, great headroom, but no bed or shower to accommodate. The bed is most probably a deal breaker for me. The quest for a tall person B class continues...
Wow, thanks so much for the mini-review of the Regency National Traveler. I requested you do this yesterday and boom here it is, amazing and so helpful. Of course, I would welcome a full review as this van is one I'm considering since I'm in the DFW area and Regency is based in Ft. Worth. Thanks again Neil!
I’d love to see reviews of the entire Regency line, especially because I’m also in Texas. I visited the Sportsmobile plant in Austin, Texas, and was impressed with some features and depressed by others.
Thanks for a most interesting mini-review! You have a much more wide ranging selection, along with your unique take, especially in the longer reviews, which include an eye for both style and quality. One thing to also remember for tall folks - it doesn’t matter how tall the roof is if we can’t drive it! This Pro-Master doesn’t have enough leg room. A question: now that you’ve seen so many, would you choose something else than your PleasureWay?
I think they missed the mark on this one. But the extra height has potential: 1. Build it with a layout similar to the Axion or Travato 59k. This will allow for a full height bathroom, since it's in the rear. 2. Use the extra height for a retractable bed. There are several variations of this theme executed on European vans. When not in use, the bed stores out of the way in a fashion that could still allow for above average headroom. And when in use, the bed is long enough to accommodate tall folks. This design would also appeal to folks who aren't height challenged. With two sleeping areas, it would appeal to folks who need to sleep 3+ people. The design would also appeal to those who want the living area separate from the sleeping area.
As always, a great review! Please do a full review when you can. It seems to me that there should be a way to increase height in the bathroom, if not to the full 7‘4“ at least much higher than 5‘10“. I also would lose the love seat in the front and use that space instead to allow for sleeping lengthwise instead of crosswise. That should allow for more length to accommodate taller people (including me at 6’1”). It’s apparent from the video that the extra height inside makes the van feel much more spacious. And the extra storage space is obviously a big plus. However, I agree with the comments that this could very easily make the vehicle too top-heavy. Additionally, I would be concerned that the higher roof adds a lot of weight, thus allowing a very limited OCCC. Issues and concerns aside, I give Regency credit for innovative thinking. In this case, I think they have a clever design that could be improved with a few modifications.
I like the idea of head room and extra storage, but 3 reasons this isn't appropriate for a tall person (I am one :)) 1)bed is too short. I just tried one out and it's a no go even at 6'2". 2)bathroom is short as you noted. This I can deal with as I duck down a bit and I'm not expecting luxurious showers in a class b 3) Promaster. Just can't handle driving a protester with my legs always being in a 90 degree angle. No way to stretch legs more straight in a long drive. I think the biggest advantage here is the increased storage, and maybe a less claustrophobic feel. Just my 2 cents.
I have a friend who's 6'5" or maybe an inch more. My Carado Axion is built on the high roof Promaster and he couldn't even fit in the driver's seat--the top of the windshield came up to his nose. So I thought this would fit him, but not only is the bathroom too low and the best too short, but I don't think he could fit in the driver's seat either and still be able to see out. So does anyone make an class B RV whose cab, cabin, bathroom and bed would all accommodate him?
phthisics Probably a sprinter is 170 inch wheelbase EXT model. But the interior height will still only be 6’3”. But so will the bathroom stall. And the bed can be longer on the EXT chassis.
Really small frig but I like it a lot. Nice 3yr warranty versus others with 1yr. Love the extra storage. I don't remember you mentioning the generator, though. I'll wait for a longer review as I am sure you will do one on this beauty.
Got excited when you said the fresh tank was inside but gt sad when you said water lines have no heating tape on them! f they had all lines protected, definitely would consider this model!
Thank you sooo much! I'm ur new subbie! I am in the process of buying a new class b and totally confused!! I know one thing, I want a pro ram. I keep missing the rv shows!! I'm in Santa Cruz, Ca and I think I am going to have to fly out to Texas for the next rv show??
welcome to the channel The Flyin' Hawaiin! You can also visit some local RV dealerships. There are a couple in Gilroy: Seegrins, Airstream and HappyDaze. Lots of variety between those dealerships.
Yep, I went to Grins in Gilroy and man they had this certain smell on their lot that made me think about this. If you cant put pride into your lot then ur just here to take my money. I knew more about rvs then the sales guy!!
lol. yeah I like La Mesa RV out of Sacramento. They're a new indoor facility with lots of choice. The sales people seem to be okay just letting you look around. If you're an RV enthusiast as you appear to be then you'll likely know more than many of the sales folks.
Another great review but really, isn't this the same floorplan as a Winnebago Era with a fiberglass roof cap put on? When I saw the extended roof I was so ready to see a US builder put a drop down bed to take advantage of the space above the cab area, but no, we continue to get more of the same, this time with even more cabinets. There is a lot of room for creative floorplan design to take advantage of this added space, just look at manufacturers from Europe called "La Strada".
Std height bath and length bed. Seems the only real advantage of the height is the storage. And having to sleep cross-wise would be a pain for this couple. They seem to do a lot with the space since there is that front lounge. Not clear what the bathroom width / depth is compared to other brands. And that cabinet quality looks sub-standard to me given what I see in the video. Wonder how is drives / sways with those top cabinets full. Look forward to the more detailed video.
Hi Neil, first off thank you for creating this channel and creating some very good and professional videos...the best I have ever seen on youtube. Here's my question. I want to Live and work fulltime in a Class B van. I have watched tons of your videos to a point where I cannot remember which van had which feature hahaha. Also, I have also noticed that North American vans are so far behind then the European market. The Europeans seem to have much better features in my opinion. So I would like a van that has 2 lounges, Prefer an up front lounge that can hold tables where I can put three laptops on, a large refrig 5.0 or greater, good holding tanks and able to boondock for at least a week. I thought about the IROK with it's power bed, because during the day I could make that an office (under the bed of course)...install 3 tables and a boat captain's chair that is fixed but spins and can fold up when not in use. The tables also would be fixed and able to be broken down when not in use. Just some thoughts I am throwing around. But then I would need a front lounge so that during the day I can cook and eat in the front lounge. The only problem with the IROK is the refrig...it is so small. Also, it would have been nice if they made the IROK basement not a basement, could have been a lounge when not using it as a bedroom. Can you or any of your listening viewers recommend a coach that maybe can fit this tall order. Thanks again!!!
maybe the winnebago travato 59g? rear bed that flips up and front lounge. large 6 cu.ft. refrigerator. or the Aktiv 2.0 with rear sofa bed configuration: 2 lounges one in back one up front but refrigerator is smaller.
@@Ultramobility yeah my very first thought was the travato 59g until I started watching all your great videos and you pointed out the quality issues with the cabinet the refrigerator doors and stuff like that. Since this will be my home and office I really need something that is going to be reliable and durable. I am sure that is what everybody wants. I hear horror stories of coaches being in the shops for weeks at a time, that would be horrible. Maybe someone can comment on the travato's dependability. Thanks for the quick reply and great content.
I'm looking forward to the full review once you have a chance to see it for yourself. I went through it yesterday at the Alameda RV Show in Pleasanton and spoke with Larry. He said you mentioned all the buzz on this one... I'll compare my thoughts once I see yours. Thanks again!
@@Ultramobility I haven't transcribe my notes yet and they're at home. See what I can remember I liked Midwest (Fleetwood) Legend, IROK, and Passage. Didn't have the passage 144 but the passage they did have had the articulating (?) bed with adjustable height. rep said it could be available on any other models. Check in with Jake there I told him about you, he's from Indiana. I checked out Regency RV International Traveler I found the galley very narrow and I would need a footstool to get into the overhead above the driver seat and 2nd bank of storage. Hangout with Larry there he won't be back until Friday. They also have a B+ that's pretty cool, loved its murphy bed and lounge chairs setup. Reminds me of the LTV Wonder a couple of years ago but better. The rest was pretty much what I'm familiar with. The number one on my list is Pleasure-way's Luxor TS I need to see if I can make the power options work for my needs because Marshall's pretty adamant that they're not going to go lithium. If I think of anything else I'll write you back
Marshall from Pleasureway? they already have 200ah of lithium standard across all their pleasureway models... thanks for sharing these excellent thoughts on the show. they will help me focus!
@@Ultramobility this is an add-on to my previous comment which I'm dictating on my cell phone so apologies for quality formatting... When I made the comment about pleasure ways lithium plans, I meant anything above what they currently offer of dual 100ah lithium
@@Ultramobility I had an idea when I was at the show talking to Larry with Regency RV... when discussing four season ready yet the plumbing lines weren't wrapped in heat tape and sewer line could freeze we talked about what it would cost to fix that and he said the cost was minimal. So I thought of a video to understand what is and isn't possible for upgrades and the costs associated with them, i.e. swapping out a propane cooktop with a induction cooktop, or amg for lithium (expensive), or adding a heating pad to a tank (cheap). what's the time involved and who could do the upgrades
I would love to see a full review of the National Traveler Explore SPT; with the dropdown bed. I have a family of four and I believe this would be the only RV for us. Sadly, I wish the fridge was bigger. Maybe drawers... hmmm...
Hi, I just watched this very interesting van. You named several of similar vans can you list those in this section thanks very much, I really enjoy your videos. Renee
Hi, you made an assumption and turned that into a design flaw. Regency RV clearly state, the added headroom is for increased storage space and an open feel for the interior. The brochure does not state they designed it for taller people. If they had, don't you think they would've addressed the bathroom height and bed length? Cheers, Steve
Seems strange that both the shower and bed weren't altered to match the needs of a taller customer. Also, with so many seat belts, there really needs to be a front [or bunk?!] sleeping area since this Class B can transport so many. Also seems weird to have interior piping and not have it well insulated. I wonder how the height will affect travelers' and overpasses/tunnels/etc. They'll need to be even more aware of their height, I'm sure! Great review! I look forward to a longer one, as I'd like to see more interior shots and wonder what the galley is like, as it seems quite small and the look of it seems a bit cheap.
"I wonder how the height will affect travelers' and overpasses/tunnels/etc. They'll need to be even more aware of their height, I'm sure!" -- White Squirrel Books IIRC. there's a GPS (or an app) that takes the height (and maybe the width/length?) of one's RV into account as it plans your travel routes for that very reason of overpasses, bridges, etc...THAT would be a good item to use! But ALL Class B's I know of are too tall to fit under any covered parking areas (as found @ many apt and condo complexes), or into home garages...so in that sense, it doesn't matter if they are the shortest (height-wise) B or this "extended roof" Regency. As for most bridges and such in America, I suppose if semi-trucks can pass under them, most Class Bs could, too. -- BR
Bill Redding guess what, it has been found that MANY truckers, ARE TOO CHEAP, and have been using CAR GPS UNITS rather than the truck/ bus ones which give weight limitations for small bridges,,ALSO HEADROOM, in the NJ, NY area,,they get their clocks cleaned, ROADWAYS CALLED ‘PARKWAYS’ have height limitations, ;eg, off the WHITESTONE BRIDGE , it’s real EASY. to SCREW UP, and go on the HUTCHENSON RIVER PARKWAY, the FIRST OVERPASS IS A MILE AND A HALF UP, now you need to get a police escort to reverse that distance, one truck seriously damaged it & his rig $$$$$$$ damages.,
My question is can class B RV can be built with 12` feet exterior height with19 feet length. I am reading about height weight balance theories. But still not sure? Could you please clarify on it.
Thanks Neil, question, how do you think that extra height affects the drive-ability of the coach? Since now its extra tall, and not extra wide. Wonder if winds may be an issue.
yes it certainly can be as can going onto dirty roads. the center of gravity is something like 45 inches or something so pretty high and that is one big disadvantage of *most* truck campers. not all because some have roofs that can be raised and lowered and those have lower centers of gravity.
I was very interested in the hymer aktiv 2.0 sofa before the bankruptcy. Is there another model/brand that fills that niche? Looking for seat belts for 7, sleeping for 4-5.
Is it ok to remove the galley? To maximize the space and keep the bathroom!!! And more videos with corner and twin bed RV. thank u sir greetings from Manila Philippines
The 5' 10" shower spoils the entire package for me. I'm 6'1" tall and was very interested until you mentioned the shower height limitation. That is so disappointing.
Good review, sir! I really want more headroom but this seems a bit... overkill. 6'5" would be adequate for most of us tall folks, as long as the bath shares that height and the bed has similar length. I have to wonder what driving through the gusty parts of NM & AZ would do to this higher-profile rig. It probably goes without saying that most parking structures are no-go zones.
I’m not sure why this rv isn’t getting any attention. From the two vids I could find on it, it looks like the interior has superior quality to everything else on the market. Everything inside of a Regency is handcrafted. Don’t discredit this vehicle.
You don't stand when showering in a class b, so the shower is not as much of a miss as the bed being 6'1". They really need to work on that one issue in all class B's so taller people can sleep more comfortably. I would have expected a larger refrigerator, 3.1 cubic feet is pretty small. No table for the front lounge is also a miss. There are a lot of good things about this van but it's the glaring misses that keep my focus. Hopefully they will address them for the next year. Awesome mini review Neil! Live your videos.
"You don't stand when showering in a class b, so the shower is not as much of a miss as the bed being 6'1". -- Magic Journey: Well, some of us would like to stand anyway...just as we do taking showers @ home. ;-) But really, I'd like a huge bath tub in my RV! Yeah, won't happen in a Class B, as it'd take up most of the space, but were it a large Class A or large TT/5er, one of those "garden tubs" they USED to have in RVs would be great. :-) -- BR
Recency made luxury stretch limos but since limos are now considered tacky ,I guess that is why they are in the RV business . I'm am sure they did not manufacturer the raised roof and I would like to know where they got it . With that info I can design my own rv to my tastes and financial capabilities.
Add a micro sink in the bathroom. That is unsanitary to use the kitchen sink to wash your hands after #2. You're touching the bath door and then the kitchen sink, two surfaces that have just been contaminated.
More reviews of RVs for tall people please - we out here! This is a fail unfortunately bc of the sleeping laterally situation - why provide all that height and then make them sleep laterally? They could have at least elevated the lounge and put bump outs in the window providing even more storage underneath and since they had the height to spare - I need to talk to their designers but kudos to them for realizing that height matters! Most european RVs have higher interiors and it makes a huge difference in how closed in you feel.
The 2piece wet room disqualifies this build. At 6’4” no way could I shower in 5’10. Why make such a high roof and not extend that to the wet room? Fail.
Hi Neil. I have a request. Thank you for considering it. I only sleep well in very dark rooms. It would be nice to have a darkness demo or a darkness rating (using only window covers which are standard features) for each of the Class Bs you review.
i'l start doing full reviews on what people voted for later this year. i'm doing mini-reviews first and then viewers vote on which ones they want me to do full reviews on. i'll post current vote tallies shortly.
ScubaStevee62 above says that they didn't build the coach for tall people but for more storage. I think that makes little sense. there's a market for a coach that accommodates taller folks.
I’m wondering if manufacturers are confused about the concept of a Western style shower, meaning the person stands and is covered by water. That is not necessarily the case in Asian countries, where one may clean oneself with a hand-held shower head seated on a stool. A hinoki (Japanese cedar) stool is not a toilet.
Hi Neil, good review. So that kitchen is horrible and fuggley; the bed looks very uncomfortable. Why couldn't they have a tall bathroom? Eh, not a contender...but I'll watch the full review when you do one😁
@Patrick EH - really? not compared to North American products... you'd get a Axion or something here for that price which is far less superior in design and build quality.
I don't mind the lack of stand up height in the shower so much, because that can be done sitting down. But the lack of a bed big enough for a tall person is a big minus.
very interesting US Camper-Van Version, even as base for more customizing ... to bad that the Fiat/Chrysler group do not offer the factory superhightop for usa and canada. Many international Camper Van manuafacture use the superhightop versions for their conversions. You find often electric bed in the rear, that lifts all the way up to the top like in the Winebago Revel. You can store compact motorcycles and bicycles under the bed. Shower high is usually 84 inch. I would prefer the higher roof too. The bed wide is on many ducato/promaster versions 74.80 inch/ 190cm, it depence on the conversion company how they shape the sidewalls. Example, European Version with factory super hightop (steel): th-cam.com/video/34DTxWw6Afo/w-d-xo.html -
That make zero sense to have 7'4 clearance and 5'10 clearance for the bathroom. It's makes the whole build pointless, but of course, not very many are over 7 feet tall to begin with.
Ridiculous. What is the point, other than a bit of extra storage space, of offering that additional height inside the van when the sleeping accommodations and the bathroom don't also provide similar height advantage? I would definitely avoid this one.
Tall? Heads ups if you are a tall person, i'm over 6' tall and sitting on the bench seats i hit my head and had to slouch quite a bit to fit. Its a no go for anyone 6' or over. Too bad as i loved the interior height
I can't believe this: they already lifted the roof like European brands. But they still throw in the same bad design that is in most American class Bs. If they would put a pull down bed in the front, everything would be different.
I hope the company is listening to the same comment made over and over. What good is a 7'4" height...when the bed is only 6ft long...and the bathroom ceiling is only...5'10" high??? That's ridiculous. Who decided not to use their brain? It's like a bathroom door with a lock on the outside. IT MAKES NO SENSE!!! But I'll tell you what, you get a kingsize bed in there, and make the bathroom ceiling the same as the rest of the cab...and you'll sell a zillion of these things. Come on...it can't be that difficult.
Why go through the trouble of making SOME of the interior have an incredible extra height and then make both the bathroom and bed for short people... unbelievable! Fail!
they just introduced a new model at RVX today with a taller shower! check out my patreon posting of it with pix! www.patreon.com/posts/this-just-in-not-25209901
The designers of this were not very smart if you are going to build it to accommodate tall people why in the hell could you not make the shower height at least 6ft 8 and the bed 6ft 8 at least so a guy 6ft 4 or 6ft 7 could use it. I am 6ft 5 with big feet size 15 and i had a Airstream 190 with a tall ceiling height i could stand up in a bed over bunk that was just under 7 ft long and over 5ft wide this was a 1990 model people are taller now. Big fail here i can not beleive they hire designers this dumb. Why would you exclude a huge demographic of people and lose sales it would be easy to make shower taller and the bed at least make one side 6ft 6 even.
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Ultramobility Are you going to the RV show in Pleasanton?
I@@richardkalahele3921 yep i'm going to try and go next week. can't make it this weekend tho.
Why Divya?
In regard to glass shower door... Would a shower curtain be needed to provide privacy, when traveling with other people? Appears to be see thru.
Kindly advise. Thank you.
Thanks NEIL, appreciate the honest review of our product. Our objective was to utilize as much space as possible. The TREK model was designed as our adventure coach- tremendous storage and split beds for loading of bikes and other adventure items. For those who want a larger kitchen and a larger bed, we offer the TOUR model, which is designed for those consumers.
Two issues are mentioned several times on this review- bed size and shower. First, I'm 6'5" and tall accommodations are attractive. With this model, in order to make the bed longer we would lose 11 inches from galley, making it unusable and 30" on the driver side, eliminating the front jump seat, storage and viewing area. Floor plans are about trade offs- which is why we offer several lay outs and allow people to choose what is more important to them.
As to the bathroom, we looked at the opportunity to add a taller shower. Due to the upper cap construction and structure, their isn't any room to increase the shower height. We did carve out storage above the shower along the inside.
As a taller person, we make accommodations constantly in life. Chairs, air plane seats, driving all are different when you are not a normal size human. I can sleep in a TREK. I can shower in TREK. With the headroom , I can be very comfortable in the TREK when it matters most- when I'm actually using it.
Thanks again Neil.
Thanks for the comment Don. For the benefit of our viewers do you mind introducing yourself? Also I think you can see from viewer comments that there is wide hope that someone, maybe Regency RV should consider manufacturing an RV that meets the needs of taller folks. It's an untapped market. What are your thoughts on that?
What good is a 7’ ceiling when you only get a 6’ bed.
Extra storage!! Very important in a Class B.
As someone who is 6'4", I keep asking myself the same thing. It would be nice to not have to sleep in the fetal position in one of these.
While you're at it, what about the height of standing room in shower?
And a 5'10" bathroom.
My thought also
Neil, I just love your reviews. I feel like I am learning so much about Class B vans. I keep making up my mind of which one I want, and then I watch another one of your videos and I have to decide all over again!
Madame Blueberry That’s very kind of you thank you
Your reviews are timeless! Also I really laughed at the cars going by in the window when you had a cut in the video.
Glad you enjoyed!
Just a word about Regency. I took a close look at the Ultra Brougham, Class B +. The brochure says that the inverter is 150 watt pure sine. I thought it was a misprint, so I emailed the company. No response.
I then called their Fort Worth Texas headquarters, and was told that it is in fact not a misprint. According to a Rep, the inverter is only intended to run the television.
Huh??
Nice summary Neil! What a nice addition to the class B lineup! I would vote YES to do a complete review if you have a chance! Cheers!
They should've done drop down beds & made the lounges more luxurious and functional
Love your reviews and info! No fluff and your opinions come from knowledge and research and you always tell us why something is your personal preference. Great job! Keep up the good work. Your channel is the reason I’m actually looking at a class B
thank you!
Neil, I would like to see a video (or at least a Q&A segment) on Class B campervan *LENGTH*, talking about all the different lengths of Class Bs (presumably 18 to 24 feet?) and most importantly the specific pros and cons of each length. For example, I know that anything longer than a 19' is not able to fit into a standard parking space, right? I happened to see that some forest land in Oregon has a length limit of 27' on RVs in campsites. Someone else said that anything over, I think, 25' is required to park in a separate area with tour buses. I saw where some towns consider anything over 22 feet to be "oversized" and cannot park longer than 24 hours. (They also consider any height over 9 feet to be "oversized", which would restrict even some shorter Class Bs.) I think it would be interesting and useful to people considering a Class B to learn about specific restrictions by length! It would sure be useful to me, that's for sure! What's more, I don't see anyone else covering this topic! Thank you!
flyshacker if Neil covers this great idea, I hope he adds height! I just met the owner of an Airstream Class B who told me his height has been an issue.
kimonogatos Agreed! Great suggestion!
Is there a van you would recommend for a family of 4? Seating and sleeping for the 4?
Thanks, Neal, another great video!
It is very disappointing, great headroom, but no bed or shower to accommodate. The bed is most probably a deal breaker for me.
The quest for a tall person B class continues...
Wow, thanks so much for the mini-review of the Regency National Traveler. I requested you do this yesterday and boom here it is, amazing and so helpful. Of course, I would welcome a full review as this van is one I'm considering since I'm in the DFW area and Regency is based in Ft. Worth. Thanks again Neil!
yep happens to be that I was working on it when you commented!
I’d love to see reviews of the entire Regency line, especially because I’m also in Texas. I visited the Sportsmobile plant in Austin, Texas, and was impressed with some features and depressed by others.
Thanks for a most interesting mini-review! You have a much more wide ranging selection, along with your unique take, especially in the longer reviews, which include an eye for both style and quality. One thing to also remember for tall folks - it doesn’t matter how tall the roof is if we can’t drive it! This Pro-Master doesn’t have enough leg room.
A question: now that you’ve seen so many, would you choose something else than your PleasureWay?
I think they missed the mark on this one. But the extra height has potential:
1. Build it with a layout similar to the Axion or Travato 59k. This will allow for a full height bathroom, since it's in the rear.
2. Use the extra height for a retractable bed. There are several variations of this theme executed on European vans. When not in use, the bed stores out of the way in a fashion that could still allow for above average headroom. And when in use, the bed is long enough to accommodate tall folks.
This design would also appeal to folks who aren't height challenged. With two sleeping areas, it would appeal to folks who need to sleep 3+ people. The design would also appeal to those who want the living area separate from the sleeping area.
Calendar White Knight Thanks for sharing those excellent thoughts
As always, a great review! Please do a full review when you can.
It seems to me that there should be a way to increase height in the bathroom, if not to the full 7‘4“ at least much higher than 5‘10“. I also would lose the love seat in the front and use that space instead to allow for sleeping lengthwise instead of crosswise. That should allow for more length to accommodate taller people (including me at 6’1”).
It’s apparent from the video that the extra height inside makes the van feel much more spacious. And the extra storage space is obviously a big plus. However, I agree with the comments that this could very easily make the vehicle too top-heavy. Additionally, I would be concerned that the higher roof adds a lot of weight, thus allowing a very limited OCCC.
Issues and concerns aside, I give Regency credit for innovative thinking. In this case, I think they have a clever design that could be improved with a few modifications.
Another Good Review!
I like the idea of head room and extra storage, but 3 reasons this isn't appropriate for a tall person (I am one :)) 1)bed is too short. I just tried one out and it's a no go even at 6'2". 2)bathroom is short as you noted. This I can deal with as I duck down a bit and I'm not expecting luxurious showers in a class b 3) Promaster. Just can't handle driving a protester with my legs always being in a 90 degree angle. No way to stretch legs more straight in a long drive. I think the biggest advantage here is the increased storage, and maybe a less claustrophobic feel. Just my 2 cents.
thanks for sharing that Bryce!
Thank you I was wondering what was available for me as a taller person and this review was perfect.
I have a friend who's 6'5" or maybe an inch more. My Carado Axion is built on the high roof Promaster and he couldn't even fit in the driver's seat--the top of the windshield came up to his nose. So I thought this would fit him, but not only is the bathroom too low and the best too short, but I don't think he could fit in the driver's seat either and still be able to see out. So does anyone make an class B RV whose cab, cabin, bathroom and bed would all accommodate him?
phthisics Probably a sprinter is 170 inch wheelbase EXT model. But the interior height will still only be 6’3”. But so will the bathroom stall. And the bed can be longer on the EXT chassis.
They should use this extra headroom in the same way the California Grand 600 does for a bed above the side entrance.
What camper rv are you seating on?
I think that's his Pleasure Way Ascent
nice review. Good info.
Exterior features . . . shower, storage, etc thnx and nice review
Really small frig but I like it a lot. Nice 3yr warranty versus others with 1yr. Love the extra storage. I don't remember you mentioning the generator, though. I'll wait for a longer review as I am sure you will do one on this beauty.
it comes with a 2.8kw gas generator Jonathan
Got excited when you said the fresh tank was inside but gt sad when you said water lines have no heating tape on them! f they had all lines protected, definitely would consider this model!
My son is 6’2 and would appreciate the extra head room, but the bed and shower do come up short!!
How is the built of the cabinets? Nice reviews
I have to do a full review to check that out fully for you! vote!
Thank you sooo much! I'm ur new subbie! I am in the process of buying a new class b and totally confused!! I know one thing, I want a pro ram. I keep missing the rv shows!! I'm in Santa Cruz, Ca and I think I am going to have to fly out to Texas for the next rv show??
welcome to the channel The Flyin' Hawaiin! You can also visit some local RV dealerships. There are a couple in Gilroy: Seegrins, Airstream and HappyDaze. Lots of variety between those dealerships.
Yep, I went to Grins in Gilroy and man they had this certain smell on their lot that made me think about this. If you cant put pride into your lot then ur just here to take my money. I knew more about rvs then the sales guy!!
lol. yeah I like La Mesa RV out of Sacramento. They're a new indoor facility with lots of choice. The sales people seem to be okay just letting you look around. If you're an RV enthusiast as you appear to be then you'll likely know more than many of the sales folks.
Another great review but really, isn't this the same floorplan as a Winnebago Era with a fiberglass roof cap put on? When I saw the extended roof I was so ready to see a US builder put a drop down bed to take advantage of the space above the cab area, but no, we continue to get more of the same, this time with even more cabinets. There is a lot of room for creative floorplan design to take advantage of this added space, just look at manufacturers from Europe called "La Strada".
Std height bath and length bed. Seems the only real advantage of the height is the storage. And having to sleep cross-wise would be a pain for this couple. They seem to do a lot with the space since there is that front lounge. Not clear what the bathroom width / depth is compared to other brands. And that cabinet quality looks sub-standard to me given what I see in the video. Wonder how is drives / sways with those top cabinets full. Look forward to the more detailed video.
Hi Neil, first off thank you for creating this channel and creating some very good and professional videos...the best I have ever seen on youtube. Here's my question. I want to Live and work fulltime in a Class B van. I have watched tons of your videos to a point where I cannot remember which van had which feature hahaha. Also, I have also noticed that North American vans are so far behind then the European market. The Europeans seem to have much better features in my opinion. So I would like a van that has 2 lounges, Prefer an up front lounge that can hold tables where I can put three laptops on, a large refrig 5.0 or greater, good holding tanks and able to boondock for at least a week. I thought about the IROK with it's power bed, because during the day I could make that an office (under the bed of course)...install 3 tables and a boat captain's chair that is fixed but spins and can fold up when not in use. The tables also would be fixed and able to be broken down when not in use. Just some thoughts I am throwing around. But then I would need a front lounge so that during the day I can cook and eat in the front lounge. The only problem with the IROK is the refrig...it is so small. Also, it would have been nice if they made the IROK basement not a basement, could have been a lounge when not using it as a bedroom. Can you or any of your listening viewers recommend a coach that maybe can fit this tall order. Thanks again!!!
maybe the winnebago travato 59g? rear bed that flips up and front lounge. large 6 cu.ft. refrigerator. or the Aktiv 2.0 with rear sofa bed configuration: 2 lounges one in back one up front but refrigerator is smaller.
@@Ultramobility yeah my very first thought was the travato 59g until I started watching all your great videos and you pointed out the quality issues with the cabinet the refrigerator doors and stuff like that. Since this will be my home and office I really need something that is going to be reliable and durable. I am sure that is what everybody wants. I hear horror stories of coaches being in the shops for weeks at a time, that would be horrible. Maybe someone can comment on the travato's dependability. Thanks for the quick reply and great content.
must be fun in a stiff crosswind. top heavy, too.
Great review. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Love it, looked at one last week
6'7" here, bed and shower are a huge dealbreaker, why did they think that was a good idea?
I'm looking forward to the full review once you have a chance to see it for yourself. I went through it yesterday at the Alameda RV Show in Pleasanton and spoke with Larry. He said you mentioned all the buzz on this one... I'll compare my thoughts once I see yours. Thanks again!
i'm heading over to the show this week. anything stand out for you?
@@Ultramobility I haven't transcribe my notes yet and they're at home. See what I can remember I liked Midwest (Fleetwood) Legend, IROK, and Passage. Didn't have the passage 144 but the passage they did have had the articulating (?) bed with adjustable height. rep said it could be available on any other models. Check in with Jake there I told him about you, he's from Indiana. I checked out Regency RV International Traveler I found the galley very narrow and I would need a footstool to get into the overhead above the driver seat and 2nd bank of storage. Hangout with Larry there he won't be back until Friday. They also have a B+ that's pretty cool, loved its murphy bed and lounge chairs setup. Reminds me of the LTV Wonder a couple of years ago but better.
The rest was pretty much what I'm familiar with. The number one on my list is Pleasure-way's Luxor TS I need to see if I can make the power options work for my needs because Marshall's pretty adamant that they're not going to go lithium.
If I think of anything else I'll write you back
Marshall from Pleasureway? they already have 200ah of lithium standard across all their pleasureway models... thanks for sharing these excellent thoughts on the show. they will help me focus!
@@Ultramobility this is an add-on to my previous comment which I'm dictating on my cell phone so apologies for quality formatting...
When I made the comment about pleasure ways lithium plans, I meant anything above what they currently offer of dual 100ah lithium
@@Ultramobility I had an idea when I was at the show talking to Larry with Regency RV... when discussing four season ready yet the plumbing lines weren't wrapped in heat tape and sewer line could freeze we talked about what it would cost to fix that and he said the cost was minimal. So I thought of a video to understand what is and isn't possible for upgrades and the costs associated with them, i.e. swapping out a propane cooktop with a induction cooktop, or amg for lithium (expensive), or adding a heating pad to a tank (cheap). what's the time involved and who could do the upgrades
I would love to see a full review of the National Traveler Explore SPT; with the dropdown bed. I have a family of four and I believe this would be the only RV for us. Sadly, I wish the fridge was bigger. Maybe drawers... hmmm...
Hi, I just watched this very interesting van. You named several of similar vans can you list those in this section thanks very much, I really enjoy your videos. Renee
Hi, you made an assumption and turned that into a design flaw. Regency RV clearly state, the added headroom is for increased storage space and an open feel for the interior. The brochure does not state they designed it for taller people. If they had, don't you think they would've addressed the bathroom height and bed length? Cheers, Steve
I think they missed a major market opportunity.
Seems strange that both the shower and bed weren't altered to match the needs of a taller customer. Also, with so many seat belts, there really needs to be a front [or bunk?!] sleeping area since this Class B can transport so many.
Also seems weird to have interior piping and not have it well insulated.
I wonder how the height will affect travelers' and overpasses/tunnels/etc. They'll need to be even more aware of their height, I'm sure!
Great review! I look forward to a longer one, as I'd like to see more interior shots and wonder what the galley is like, as it seems quite small and the look of it seems a bit cheap.
Great point about the exterior height and bridges etc!
"I wonder how the height will affect travelers' and overpasses/tunnels/etc. They'll need to be even more aware of their height, I'm sure!" -- White Squirrel Books
IIRC. there's a GPS (or an app) that takes the height (and maybe the width/length?) of one's RV into account as it plans your travel routes for that very reason of overpasses, bridges, etc...THAT would be a good item to use!
But ALL Class B's I know of are too tall to fit under any covered parking areas (as found @ many apt and condo complexes), or into home garages...so in that sense, it doesn't matter if they are the shortest (height-wise) B or this "extended roof" Regency.
As for most bridges and such in America, I suppose if semi-trucks can pass under them, most Class Bs could, too.
-- BR
Bill Redding guess what, it has been found that MANY truckers, ARE TOO CHEAP, and have been using CAR GPS UNITS rather than the truck/ bus ones which give weight limitations for small bridges,,ALSO HEADROOM, in the NJ, NY area,,they get their clocks cleaned, ROADWAYS CALLED ‘PARKWAYS’ have height limitations, ;eg, off the WHITESTONE BRIDGE , it’s real EASY. to SCREW UP, and go on the HUTCHENSON RIVER PARKWAY, the FIRST OVERPASS IS A MILE AND A HALF UP, now you need to get a police escort to reverse that distance, one truck seriously damaged it & his rig $$$$$$$ damages.,
My question is can class B RV can be built with 12` feet exterior height with19 feet length. I am reading about height weight balance theories. But still not sure? Could you please clarify on it.
center of gravity issue. likely too tall.
Thanks Neil, question, how do you think that extra height affects the drive-ability of the coach? Since now its extra tall, and not extra wide. Wonder if winds may be an issue.
How many does it sleep???
Is wind a problem with the high roof?
yes it certainly can be as can going onto dirty roads. the center of gravity is something like 45 inches or something so pretty high and that is one big disadvantage of *most* truck campers. not all because some have roofs that can be raised and lowered and those have lower centers of gravity.
That's why one should have a dually P/U truck if you have a truck camper. @@Ultramobility
I was very interested in the hymer aktiv 2.0 sofa before the bankruptcy. Is there another model/brand that fills that niche? Looking for seat belts for 7, sleeping for 4-5.
the panoramic RV coming out of canada is very similar but better quality. will be here in 2020.
Thanks for the info.
I thought finally a front bed for grandkids but nooooo🙃thanks for review!!
With this kind of height, they could have configured it to have a pull down additional bed as on many European campers
Good info, intriguing but oh, my the galley drawers were not appealing...
Is it ok to remove the galley? To maximize the space and keep the bathroom!!! And more videos with corner and twin bed RV. thank u sir greetings from Manila Philippines
please do a full review!
The 5' 10" shower spoils the entire package for me. I'm 6'1" tall and was very interested until you mentioned the shower height limitation. That is so disappointing.
Thanks for the review. Well, I like it but 5'10" headroom in the shower? They had me, but then they lost me. What's in the space above the shower?
The new Explore model fixes that. check out my mini review of it here: th-cam.com/video/1AmMJsFeJUY/w-d-xo.html
For all the trouble they go into to make extra headroom and storage, they can't make a bathroom big enough and comfortable enough to shower in.
Very nice! I'd like a sink in my bathroom please.😊
Good review, sir! I really want more headroom but this seems a bit... overkill. 6'5" would be adequate for most of us tall folks, as long as the bath shares that height and the bed has similar length. I have to wonder what driving through the gusty parts of NM & AZ would do to this higher-profile rig. It probably goes without saying that most parking structures are no-go zones.
Is there a true 4 season rv that is the same price range?
Bob Richardson I’m not aware of any “true” for season RV yet. About the closest is the Galleria from coachman
@@Ultramobility Neil's review of the Coachmen Crossfit emphasized it's more 4-season capability
I’m not sure why this rv isn’t getting any attention. From the two vids I could find on it, it looks like the interior has superior quality to everything else on the market. Everything inside of a Regency is handcrafted. Don’t discredit this vehicle.
Vanessa it’s ok at best in my opinion. They could have took advantage of the head space but missed the mark.
You don't stand when showering in a class b, so the shower is not as much of a miss as the bed being 6'1". They really need to work on that one issue in all class B's so taller people can sleep more comfortably. I would have expected a larger refrigerator, 3.1 cubic feet is pretty small. No table for the front lounge is also a miss. There are a lot of good things about this van but it's the glaring misses that keep my focus. Hopefully they will address them for the next year. Awesome mini review Neil! Live your videos.
"You don't stand when showering in a class b, so the shower is not as much of a miss as the bed being 6'1". -- Magic Journey:
Well, some of us would like to stand anyway...just as we do taking showers @ home. ;-)
But really, I'd like a huge bath tub in my RV!
Yeah, won't happen in a Class B, as it'd take up most of the space, but were it a large Class A or large TT/5er, one of those "garden tubs" they USED to have in RVs would be great. :-)
-- BR
Western style, we stand. Even in Japan, where one might shower “seated,” one would never sit on the toilet to do so.
Recency made luxury stretch limos but since limos are now considered tacky ,I guess that is why they are in the RV business . I'm am sure they did not manufacturer the raised roof and I would like to know where they got it . With that info I can design my own rv to my tastes and financial capabilities.
I would love to see the National Traveler head to head with the PW Lexor. I’m in the market and considering both.
noted!
Add a micro sink in the bathroom. That is unsanitary to use the kitchen sink to wash your hands after #2. You're touching the bath door and then the kitchen sink, two surfaces that have just been contaminated.
More reviews of RVs for tall people please - we out here! This is a fail unfortunately bc of the sleeping laterally situation - why provide all that height and then make them sleep laterally? They could have at least elevated the lounge and put bump outs in the window providing even more storage underneath and since they had the height to spare - I need to talk to their designers but kudos to them for realizing that height matters! Most european RVs have higher interiors and it makes a huge difference in how closed in you feel.
great point!
The 2piece wet room disqualifies this build. At 6’4” no way could I shower in 5’10. Why make such a high roof and not extend that to the wet room? Fail.
Hi Neil. I have a request. Thank you for considering it.
I only sleep well in very dark rooms. It would be nice to have a darkness demo or a darkness rating (using only window covers which are standard features) for each of the Class Bs you review.
hmm that's an interesting suggestion. let me see if I can handle that for you...
You sold me on this camper van until you mentioned the tiny bathroom. I'm close to 6'5". No way would that work for me. :/
Are you going to review the regular Regency National Traveler?
i'l start doing full reviews on what people voted for later this year. i'm doing mini-reviews first and then viewers vote on which ones they want me to do full reviews on. i'll post current vote tallies shortly.
Finally a class B for people over 6 feet tall but what the hell a shower that is for short people. Crazy
ScubaStevee62 above says that they didn't build the coach for tall people but for more storage. I think that makes little sense. there's a market for a coach that accommodates taller folks.
I’m wondering if manufacturers are confused about the concept of a Western style shower, meaning the person stands and is covered by water. That is not necessarily the case in Asian countries, where one may clean oneself with a hand-held shower head seated on a stool. A hinoki (Japanese cedar) stool is not a toilet.
@@Ultramobility I agree. I am about 6'3", I used to be 6'5" but age takes its toll. If I cannot stand in the shower.... I do enjoy your videos.
Hi Neil, good review. So that kitchen is horrible and fuggley; the bed looks very uncomfortable. Why couldn't they have a tall bathroom?
Eh, not a contender...but I'll watch the full review when you do one😁
Price?
about $80k usd
OMG, way overpriced @@Ultramobility
@Patrick EH - really? not compared to North American products... you'd get a Axion or something here for that price which is far less superior in design and build quality.
Why no other RV Mfg thought of this before?! For more room, go up. And consider the market for tall people. I'm 6'6".
let's hope others follow and improve upon this design!
I don't mind the lack of stand up height in the shower so much, because that can be done sitting down. But the lack of a bed big enough for a tall person is a big minus.
So is 6 ft 5 guy can stand up in it. He just can't sleep or take a shower or go to the bathroom??? But that's an awful lot of storage
Eh they have all that height for storage but not ppl?
very interesting US Camper-Van Version, even as base for more customizing
... to bad that the Fiat/Chrysler group do not offer the factory superhightop for usa and canada. Many international Camper Van manuafacture use the superhightop versions for their conversions. You find often electric bed in the rear, that lifts all the way up to the top like in the Winebago Revel. You can store compact motorcycles and bicycles under the bed. Shower high is usually 84 inch. I would prefer the higher roof too. The bed wide is on many ducato/promaster versions 74.80 inch/ 190cm, it depence on the conversion company how they shape the sidewalls.
Example, European Version with factory super hightop (steel):
th-cam.com/video/34DTxWw6Afo/w-d-xo.html
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Anyone else confused by the vehicles passing behind? It’s like they are warping ahead 😂
Think chevy Astro 4*4 GT tiger amphibian
A 7'4 ceiling with a 6' bed, seems very "short" sighted.
If my husband can't stand in the bathroom then we're not interested at all.
And we exactly know who are they inspired by...
who?
@@Ultramobility, have a look here globe-traveller.eu. At least, the exterior. :)
OMG looks like Globe-Traveller!
@@Ultramobility please visit our website and compare the exterior :)
Globe-Traveller - please go ahead and post the link for me and others.
Lateral sleeping arrangement is a non-starter for us. No desire for either my wife or I to have to climb over each other to get out of the bed.
agree with you on that!
That make zero sense to have 7'4 clearance and 5'10 clearance for the bathroom. It's makes the whole build pointless, but of course, not very many are over 7 feet tall to begin with.
You can stand up but can't sleep or shower ,, so what's the point ?
Why have 7’4” inside + then make the shower 5’10” + the bed 6’? 🤪
Your 5-minute review took 8:49. 🤐
driver8m3 Yeah I got carried away on this one…
Ridiculous. What is the point, other than a bit of extra storage space, of offering that additional height inside the van when the sleeping accommodations and the bathroom don't also provide similar height advantage? I would definitely avoid this one.
they claim that extra height is for storage and not for tall people...
Clearly designed for extra storage, not for tall people. Unless you do not want to sleep or shower in it.
Tall? Heads ups if you are a tall person, i'm over 6' tall and sitting on the bench seats i hit my head and had to slouch quite a bit to fit. Its a no go for anyone 6' or over. Too bad as i loved the interior height
I can't believe this: they already lifted the roof like European brands. But they still throw in the same bad design that is in most American class Bs. If they would put a pull down bed in the front, everything would be different.
Not sure I'd want the black water tank inside the van.
why's that doug?
@@Ultramobility Sounds like a potential toxic spill. Rather have the gray tank inside. Could flush toilet with antifreeze if need be.
Aren’t the toilets in most Class B on a “pedestal” because the blank tank is directly beneath (and at least partially inside the van)?
1:08 Disappearing car outside.
I’d rather have a drop down bed instead of double cabinets
thanks for sharing
I think RV Manufactures just DONT get it what people need
I think you may be right on this one...
I hope the company is listening to the same comment made over and over. What good is a 7'4" height...when the bed is only 6ft long...and the bathroom ceiling is only...5'10" high??? That's ridiculous. Who decided not to use their brain? It's like a bathroom door with a lock on the outside. IT MAKES NO SENSE!!! But I'll tell you what, you get a kingsize bed in there, and make the bathroom ceiling the same as the rest of the cab...and you'll sell a zillion of these things. Come on...it can't be that difficult.
Why go through the trouble of making SOME of the interior have an incredible extra height and then make both the bathroom and bed for short people... unbelievable! Fail!
tradersato They claim it’s for storage…
What a missed opportunity to not have a shower for a tall person. They could have won more marketshare
they just introduced a new model at RVX today with a taller shower! check out my patreon posting of it with pix! www.patreon.com/posts/this-just-in-not-25209901
What's with the Americans and TVs? Nobody neeeds TVs today anymore. With phones, tablets and Laptops, TV are just superfluous
i like mine
Shower is way to short... ha ha ha... my son is 6' 3" at 17.. this is way to bad.
🚿 #ThisShowerIsLacking 🤓
lol yes it is!
I Much year you can keep a class b
The designers of this were not very smart if you are going to build it to accommodate tall people why in the hell could you not make the shower height at least 6ft 8 and the bed 6ft 8 at least so a guy 6ft 4 or 6ft 7 could use it. I am 6ft 5 with big feet size 15 and i had a Airstream 190 with a tall ceiling height i could stand up in a bed over bunk that was just under 7 ft long and over 5ft wide this was a 1990 model people are taller now. Big fail here i can not beleive they hire designers this dumb. Why would you exclude a huge demographic of people and lose sales it would be easy to make shower taller and the bed at least make one side 6ft 6 even.