I dont know about "best," but thank you! I was surprised at just how simple it seemed to be. Just about half a "flat' (the flat sides of the hex bolts are known as flats that you can count when a bolt needs to be turned so many turns).
Very helpful video! I first watched it a year ago thought I had saved it but didn't then found it again today and saved it this time! I'm about to do the same on my 88 indy sport! Great video!
I'm doing the same job on my 1991 650 it's A massive job I've took some hints from this video but still have alot of problems ahead to get it back together .I stripped mine right down to the tunnel I pulled engine to put new fuel pump clean out under the engine etc.
It'll be worth it when you're done. One more thing to check, and I haven't done this to mine yet but will in the next couple of weeks, is to replace the pickup line INSIDE the gas tank. I've seen them crack, I've seen them fall off the fitting, and when that happens out in the middle of nowhere your day can go downhill fast. Thanks for watching my video, and good luck!
Question!! You didnt show how the collar (theres a step on the collar) went behind the top gear - can you elaborate? I'm doing this now and not sure how it sits. Does anyone know? Thanks in advance!
@contact4mwy7 AWESOME - THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH - Now we can close it up. We couldn't find anything online regarding this, and the manual pictures were unclear. We may comment again during the rebuild - much, much MUCH appreciated!!
Yes, I did eventually, but it took a lot of tapping and wiggling to break it free. I don't know if this is a common thing or only happens if the parts have been together for as long as these had been. The sled is still going strong by the way. Thanks for commenting.
Great video. I have the exact same sled. Im having some difficulty removing my chain case so i can access the brake system. Chain case seems to be binding on the upper jackshaft. Any suggestions?
Make sure all nuts and bolts have been removed. Brake caliper too. I have another video uploaded where I replaced the chain case, and I remember it gave me some trouble coming apart. Let me look at that.
I watched that video and yes, I had a struggle getting the chain case out. I blamed my struggle on ice jamming things up in the bottom of the sled under the chain case, which I had melted with a heat gun. I bet you don't have an ice problem in September! I'm thinking one or both of the bearings may be sticking on the jack shaft or bottom drive shaft. Check for any play at all, see if they wiggle and slide back and forth on the shafts. I went back and forth, top to bottom, in trying to slide the chain case off the shafts and bolts that hold it in place. As long as you removed all nuts and bolts, the bearings stuck on the shafts seems the likely culprit?
I need to replace the bearing on my jackshaft behind the secondary clutch. I'd rather not have to remove the track right now? Is it easy to drop the belly pan and get to the bottom bolt that way? Could I run it with only two bolts? Thank you!
Sorry for the late reply, I was not getting notifications. I really think you should just bite the bullet and take it apart and replace it and run it with all of the bolts in place. I've been on trails that go through a lot of nothing for miles, not where you want to be if that thing falls apart. Be safe. Thanks for asking and commenting. I hope you fixed it by now maybe?
I realize this is a year later, but I thought I'd mention that you can do this without removing the track. You can drop the front bolts on the suspension so you can get your hand up and undo the nut from there. It's even easier going back in because you can feel the bolt moving when you put it in with your other hand.
I found a ball bearing in my oil when changing the chain case oil on my 87 trail. Can I change out the chain case bearings by taking the cover off without taking everything else off? I have purchased the all balls chain case bearing kit. Thanks
I think it's worth a try, David. The bearings are held in by circlips (circle clips). Once you remove the circlips, there's a good chance they will slide off the shafts and you can slide the new ones in place. HOWEVER, you will have to loosen the track tension to relieve pressure on the axle shaft as the track will act like a big ol' rubber band pulling the shaft towards the back of the sled. Make sure the new bearings are pressed all the way into the chaincase to allow the circlips to be put back on. If it becomes too much of a struggle, undo the brake and remove the chaincase. You want to be sure it is done right or pay the price out on some backwoods trail! Good luck!
I had the same problem two years ago as far as the broken pin in shaft.😡 Maybe common issue with those Indys🤔87 Indy trail. Also, front two tunnel holes were egged out. I got some custom brackets on there now. I feel the bolts going Into the tunnel could cause issue with snow build up ? I tried rivets but ended but with nut and bolt. Good work man 👍🏻
Hey, thanks, Nicholas. I'll add to the comments if the bolt ends become an issue with snow buildup. We had such a mild Winter last year that I really didn't get to try it out much. About 2 weeks after I made this video our snow was gone.
I will keep an eye on the bolt ends to see if snow buildup happens, if so I will turn them around the other way. Yeah, it seems to be a common issue with those speedometer pin shafts. Weak link. Thanks for the comments Nicholas!
I just picked up an 87 just like that. The original owner took great care of it but my brother had it for about 5 or 6 years and didn't ride it much. But he left it out for the elements to run a muck. I hear a rattle near the chain case and it feels like it's ratcheting. I'm unable to find and informative videos for Polaris Indy's in these years except the couple you have.
@@contact4mwy7 I'm afraid to open the chain case, I'm the unlucky type guy where it's always worse case scenario. Never just something as simple as making a few adjustments. Hahaha
@@contact4mwy7 I'm a diy guy, ya know jack of all trades? I'd do the work but I'm not sure if it's worth putting the money and time in or maybe parting it out? Im sure a few people out there with older Polaris's are looking for hard to find parts. I'm going out to pull the cover on the case now to see what I'm up against. Thanks for the advice & Convo.
Yes I did! I replaced them with All Balls brand bearings. Once the "C" clip is out they will pop right out with a little tapping, and the new ones will tap right back in and then replace the "C" clips. They take a strong "C" clip tool to get them out. Good luck Charles!
Glad that bearing came right off for you. The left side driveshaft bearing on my Indy 650 was an absolute BEAR to get off!😂 Great video.
That was the best chain tensioning demonstration on youtube. Nicely done thanks much!
I dont know about "best," but thank you! I was surprised at just how simple it seemed to be. Just about half a "flat' (the flat sides of the hex bolts are known as flats that you can count when a bolt needs to be turned so many turns).
Very helpful video! I first watched it a year ago thought I had saved it but didn't then found it again today and saved it this time! I'm about to do the same on my 88 indy sport! Great video!
Thanks. Really useful. Working on our 93 Indy Lite Gt. manual was confusing and this really helped.
I put a few more hundreds of miles on mine this Winter. Odometer now shows over 10,000 miles, but it doesn't act it. Thanks!
Thanks for the great video Mark, We had to change our front heat exchager after it was damaged by a ripped out stud. Great instructions.
+Maineboy Hey, glad it helped out, sorry about the torn out heat exchanger.
Mark Young I was only asking if bolts would cause issue ...
I am not aware of an issue yet. I used fairly short bolts, so they don't extend very far into the tunnel at all.
great video, thanks!
Very Very informative!
I'm doing the same job on my 1991 650 it's A massive job I've took some hints from this video but still have alot of problems ahead to get it back together .I stripped mine right down to the tunnel I pulled engine to put new fuel pump clean out under the engine etc.
It'll be worth it when you're done. One more thing to check, and I haven't done this to mine yet but will in the next couple of weeks, is to replace the pickup line INSIDE the gas tank. I've seen them crack, I've seen them fall off the fitting, and when that happens out in the middle of nowhere your day can go downhill fast. Thanks for watching my video, and good luck!
messy work good outcome at the end like the video.
Thank you
Question!! You didnt show how the collar (theres a step on the collar) went behind the top gear - can you elaborate? I'm doing this now and not sure how it sits. Does anyone know? Thanks in advance!
Got to 18:58 in the video, I show the collar going back on the top shaft.
@contact4mwy7 AWESOME - THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH - Now we can close it up. We couldn't find anything online regarding this, and the manual pictures were unclear. We may comment again during the rebuild - much, much MUCH appreciated!!
So I'm guess you never got the jack shaft to budge from the chain case housing.
Yes, I did eventually, but it took a lot of tapping and wiggling to break it free. I don't know if this is a common thing or only happens if the parts have been together for as long as these had been. The sled is still going strong by the way. Thanks for commenting.
Great video. I have the exact same sled. Im having some difficulty removing my chain case so i can access the brake system. Chain case seems to be binding on the upper jackshaft. Any suggestions?
Make sure all nuts and bolts have been removed. Brake caliper too. I have another video uploaded where I replaced the chain case, and I remember it gave me some trouble coming apart. Let me look at that.
I watched that video and yes, I had a struggle getting the chain case out. I blamed my struggle on ice jamming things up in the bottom of the sled under the chain case, which I had melted with a heat gun. I bet you don't have an ice problem in September! I'm thinking one or both of the bearings may be sticking on the jack shaft or bottom drive shaft. Check for any play at all, see if they wiggle and slide back and forth on the shafts. I went back and forth, top to bottom, in trying to slide the chain case off the shafts and bolts that hold it in place. As long as you removed all nuts and bolts, the bearings stuck on the shafts seems the likely culprit?
@@contact4mwy7 yeah its definitely gotta be the upper jackshaft bearing that is giving me the grief. I’ll just keep trying. Thanks!
@@contact4mwy7 finally got the shaft and bearing to seperate!!
I need to replace the bearing on my jackshaft behind the secondary clutch. I'd rather not have to remove the track right now? Is it easy to drop the belly pan and get to the bottom bolt that way? Could I run it with only two bolts? Thank you!
Sorry for the late reply, I was not getting notifications. I really think you should just bite the bullet and take it apart and replace it and run it with all of the bolts in place. I've been on trails that go through a lot of nothing for miles, not where you want to be if that thing falls apart. Be safe. Thanks for asking and commenting. I hope you fixed it by now maybe?
I realize this is a year later, but I thought I'd mention that you can do this without removing the track. You can drop the front bolts on the suspension so you can get your hand up and undo the nut from there. It's even easier going back in because you can feel the bolt moving when you put it in with your other hand.
My 95 wide track is going through a massive tear down and total rebuild at the moment. I'm allready up to like $75...
It doesn't take long to add up! Just the steering knuckles are crazy expensive. Idler wheels, sliders.... Good luck to you!
I found a ball bearing in my oil when changing the chain case oil on my 87 trail. Can I change out the chain case bearings by taking the cover off without taking everything else off? I have purchased the all balls chain case bearing kit. Thanks
I think it's worth a try, David. The bearings are held in by circlips (circle clips). Once you remove the circlips, there's a good chance they will slide off the shafts and you can slide the new ones in place. HOWEVER, you will have to loosen the track tension to relieve pressure on the axle shaft as the track will act like a big ol' rubber band pulling the shaft towards the back of the sled. Make sure the new bearings are pressed all the way into the chaincase to allow the circlips to be put back on. If it becomes too much of a struggle, undo the brake and remove the chaincase. You want to be sure it is done right or pay the price out on some backwoods trail! Good luck!
Don't be afraid to tear into the chaincase, its surprisingly easy. I just rebuilt my widetrack with hi-low& reverse gears, it was tit
I had the same problem two years ago as far as the broken pin in shaft.😡 Maybe common issue with those Indys🤔87 Indy trail. Also, front two tunnel holes were egged out. I got some custom brackets on there now. I feel the bolts going Into the tunnel could cause issue with snow build up ? I tried rivets but ended but with nut and bolt. Good work man 👍🏻
Hey, thanks, Nicholas. I'll add to the comments if the bolt ends become an issue with snow buildup. We had such a mild Winter last year that I really didn't get to try it out much. About 2 weeks after I made this video our snow was gone.
I will keep an eye on the bolt ends to see if snow buildup happens, if so I will turn them around the other way. Yeah, it seems to be a common issue with those speedometer pin shafts. Weak link. Thanks for the comments Nicholas!
Dude its a 87 lmao they dont last forever
I've got 3 wedge Polaris sleds. Doo info there
I believe 20 inch pounds then back off 1/2 a turn for the tensioner
That sounds like it would work too. Thanks!
I just picked up an 87 just like that. The original owner took great care of it but my brother had it for about 5 or 6 years and didn't ride it much. But he left it out for the elements to run a muck. I hear a rattle near the chain case and it feels like it's ratcheting. I'm unable to find and informative videos for Polaris Indy's in these years except the couple you have.
From what you've described I would check the tension of the drive chain. I still have my '88.
@@contact4mwy7 I'm afraid to open the chain case, I'm the unlucky type guy where it's always worse case scenario. Never just something as simple as making a few adjustments. Hahaha
I understand and respect that. I hope you have a shop nearby that can look at it for you.
@@contact4mwy7 I'm a diy guy, ya know jack of all trades? I'd do the work but I'm not sure if it's worth putting the money and time in or maybe parting it out? Im sure a few people out there with older Polaris's are looking for hard to find parts. I'm going out to pull the cover on the case now to see what I'm up against. Thanks for the advice & Convo.
Hey mark, outstanding Video. Did you change the two chaincase bearings? I figured out the bearing numbers are 6205 RS. I have the same sled. Thanks!
Yes I did! I replaced them with All Balls brand bearings. Once the "C" clip is out they will pop right out with a little tapping, and the new ones will tap right back in and then replace the "C" clips. They take a strong "C" clip tool to get them out. Good luck Charles!
what size is that track?
That is a 121 inch track by 15 inches wide.