You guys are bloody awesome. I got diagnosed with rhumatoid arthritis in 2015 just as i was learning roof work, I was a trainee carpenter, i'd just finished my level 1 diploma. My tutor had us doing bulastrades roof timbers and everything techincal by the end of our first year (we were a clever bunch, all in our 30's). He took me on and i was doing great. Then on the middle of a larger dormer, both of my arms gave out and ceased up, it took a while to get me down off the scaffold. I then got the diagnosis of rhumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia I couldn't work anymore. I look at these videos and still want to be doing this, i'm gutted. Your videos just bring it all back for me, it's like i'm still doing it. I thank you for these vids, i wish i was there with you working. Thanks boys
The London ForeverThat is such a shame to hear your story. Just as you were getting into it and making a go of it. There is nothing quite like a good day out on site. Sorry you can't be there.
My family have 110 years in the Timber trade, ( Same company still trading, small but wonderful) from supply to joinery. My father was passionate about it and even now bed ridden suffering with Dementia he recounts his experiences in those rare lucid moments. I left the profession to become a cop and yet that passion for joinery still lays there. It was my savior after I became ill.I retire within the next few months. That passion I have no doubt will rise and I'll start again I know as I'm buying tools. I'm saddened that youngsters don't seem to have a desire to take up the tools. I know I left but that was for ambition and other reasons. Quite a lot of my colleagues are ex trade and now quite a few are leaving to go back as times have changed so much. I was just touched by your comments about retirement Roger, profound and accurate. I love your channel, your reviews, banter and projects. Keep it up guys. Whens the next installment?
Roger it's been an absolute joy to watch The Extension as well other uploads over the bank holiday, I got back onto the building game about 3/4 years ago after spending 8 yrs at an office refurbishment company, the builder I work for is a little old school and doesn't spend ant time explaining anything, being a more mature Labour (40+ lol) it can be frustrating when your eager to learn as your never to old, I've had to pick it up on the fly, but I can honestly say that your poles apart when it comes to ethic, your preparation, the materials ect, I can honestly say that it would be an absolute pleasure to rub shoulders on any building site, keep up the good work my good man
Thank you for your words of encouragement. We get plenty of stick so it is nice to have some positive stuff. I know what you mean about lack of communication. Some people don't like to share knowledge. Where would TH-cam be if that attitude prevailed?
Very wise words Roger - retirement does indeed kill you - who wants to sit at home and rot away anyway!Fantastic your old man worked till 85, the way you are going you'll hit that mark also. Great vids from yourself and Robin!, just gained another subscriber.
Dementia sets in very quickly for retired builders. You can't have your mind and body racing like that for so long to just abruptly stop. Make sure you have a hobby or passion beyond the trade. I know too many good blokes who went mad within a year or two of retiring.
I did my first roof aged 17 with an old master carpenter close to retirement. 45 years later I cut the hip and valley extension on my house, because I could and much to the astonishment of a young building control officer who these days usually only sees pre made trusses...so nice to see a proper tradesman at work, (must be something about the name!) Alas I have seen first hand too many young kids come out of school and go into college without the basic knowledge required to work out the angles and lengths that we old uns find so easy... I just wish we could get more of the trades into schools so the next generation of potential tradesmen learn early enough that literacy and numeracy are vital to their working lives. Enthusiasm by itself isn't enough, you need to be able to read a copy of Goss's before you can begin to understand it and apply it...
I found a copy of Ralf Goss' Roofing ready reckoner in our local bookshop and self taught myself roofing, the carpenter I worked for wasn't big on teaching or passing on skills, to him I was just a goffer. Carpentry was something I always wanted to do and years after I realised he wasn't half as good as he thought he was, but as a 17 year old you don't know any different !
I remember years ago helping a friend do his roof extension. We cut the rafters and the bird's mouth over the wall plate. Sometime later, while recounting what we had done, he mistakenly referred to the bird's mouth as the bird's lip! Even all these years later I still refer to them as bird's lips; makes me smile everytime. Lovely work Robin. I like to use a plywood saddle on the ridge/hip connection; just a bit more to nail into.
Speaking as a cabinetmaker woodworking since I was 14, loved listening to robin and can totally relate to his passion and a real professional. I have longed felt woodworkers to be viewed as just simple manual work! It's a profession like any other highly technical and highly skilled.
You can see Robin is a really skilled tradesman but, like yourself Roger, the best bit is the passion for the job and to do it right. You'd be in safe hands with u two on the job I reckon. Keep the vids coming mate, I always look forward to the notifications.
Thanks John. I was working with Robin yesterday on a timber frame house and he is in a different league to me. He watches every single detail like a hawk and, for the most part, it is completely justified but it can make for a stressful day because you are waiting for him to tell you that it isn't good enough. Just about the only job I did that got his full approval was when I made the tea.
I'm an Electrician, i don't find any passion in my job!..However i can plaster i can render i can do a fair few things..But when i see brickies and carpenters.. i feel they are the true tradesmans! .Im 45 now but i'm going to jump on some learning next year and study this art!!! Thanks for a wonderful channel...Cheers guys!
Really nice series so far. Ive enjoyed it, and learned so much already. Also love the Jokes throughout the video. Wish u al the best drom the Netherlands.
I am 63 Roger and my wife tells me to retire. On what I don't know. I still love it, I have put a good few roofs on but it's not my specialty. I am a joiner so generally specialise in other fields. You can tell Robin is at home doing roofs. Building regulations are always on the move so looking at your videos keeps me up to date with them. Many Thanks
Hi Jerry 63 is young these days. I am 66 and looking for another 4 years before I think about easing up. I love work. I sometimes hang around and am slow to get out the door but once I am there I realise it is essential to keep going
@@hi-tech55 Thanks. I think it depends what day you catch somebody on. Some days I look 90. Yes I was on the Steve Allen show and the Fix It Phone In with Therese Birch. Whatever happened to her?
Robins roofing skills aside, Roger, you are right about retirement in the construction industry. There is a tangible fear amongst most older guys that when you stop, you drop. I watched another one of your videos only recently, in which you were laying heavy concrete blocks above eye level, and there isn't many men in their early sixties, let alone their late sixties, that can do that. Cheers
I’ve been a chippy for 18 yrs now but wen I was coming up I asked anybody and everybody to teach me to cut a roof and no one on the firm would as their all on price. I’ve taught myself since but I can’t imagine there’s many lads coming thru now that are getting taught, it’ll be a shame wen the design is limited by the lack of skilled men available to build it
I've just started a chippy apprenticeship 2 months ago first day I was chucked on the roofs and I'm still there definitely my favourite part of chippying
That's the problem with alot of firms where people start out, most on price so not their responsibility to teach you and you end up getting stuck on the little jobs for a long time and if you dont havr much drive yourself could take you forever to learn anything
Dan Canning so true, them little jobs and snags make a good chippy tho. I remember turning up on my first day, the boss put me with two older chippies and first thing they said was “well we don’t need you”
It looks like you've cut the corner of the plate at 45 deg the width of the hip (45mm) , I always done that but some carpenters I know leave it square, whatever works for you works I suppose. Another thing good to know is measure the distance vertically from the birdsmouth (corner of plate) to the top of the rafter and use that measurement on the hip plumb cut for the backing measurement of the hip, that way the top edge of the hips and rafters will be exactly in line,. I'm sure you know this Robin but just mentioned it for those learning the trade. Just found your vids and loving them, very informative for someone new to the trade. As a builder once said to me "it's not a game" after someone said to him about the building game, and he was right, it's not a game.
You 2 have some teachers material in your genome and definitely the sound of your voice helps you very much, the knowledge from my point of view is coming from experience and from that gift the Creator gives to everybody. A big advantage is that you clients are willing to accept the teaching the classroom on there are jobs even you are one price . Probably here is Rogers merit because listing to his voice I don't think it's somebody in this country cannot be convinced about this voice .😊
Glad you mentioned the birdsmouth depth and the solution as the first ones cut the birdsmouth was way too deep :)Neat job though, nice to see someone that cares and doesn't just shove it up
Robin. Help needed. Could you point us in the direction of fitting a wall plate please. I have to fit a 19’ ‘wall plate’ on a squash court gallery. Having taken off the old timber cap I have bare brick, a few of the bricks are smashed from where the amateur tried to drive nails into masonry to fix. Suggestions?
Your spot on with your comments, I have worked with my dad for 30 years in roofing ,although he's slowing down he'll never retire. He said he'll die one day with a hammer In his hand. It's just in your blood.👍
just like robin I love cut roofs,but the brickie must be good too!,true too what Roger said about other "chippies" ,they run a mile!,great team you got there,very rare here in Reading Berkshire
Could have done with your help today Robin. First hip roof I've cut in years and I was scratching my head. I calculated the run of hip out the book and it was to long. Got it to fit but I had to manually measure it. I'm think I went wrong by not allowing the fact I cut a 45 on the wall plate and didnt take of this measurement. I over word is the length of he hip to the point of the wall plate before you 45 it? Please help haha
Is the rise of the the roof the measurement from the top of wall plate to the the pitch line 2 thirds down from the rafters top or to the actual rafters top edge
top of wall plate to the top of the rafter where it joins the ridge. Sometimes the ridge board is set slightly higher so it is always the top of the rafter. This explains it with more detail th-cam.com/video/_TmXZ0cGNEI/w-d-xo.html
Hi. My Dad built a brick shed 40 or so years ago. How do check if it would be ok to build "extent the front of it" and if it will be ok for a granny flat ??
Goes to show it doesn’t matter the brand of tool. It’s the brain inside the skull, connected to the hand , holding it. I used to work with a 70 yr old Sicilian who owned the cheapest crap ever to be manufactured and yet he performed magic everyday. Said the expensive tools were too heavy carry.
Hi im doing my own extension now i used 150mm hex timber screws on the rafters and you guys used nails should i nail them and why? Cheers great vids btw.
No you are fine. The roof is sitting preety on the steel and the wall plate. The collars are bolted so it is solid. There is not problem with high winds in that sheltered location and it is strapped down.. The roof on the main house was built with cut nails and a 100 year on it is still there.
A working knowledge of trigonometry and algebra is the key to figuring all this out from first principles if you're not a chippie. Pay attention in the maths class kids!
Hi, I am building a side extension. Front of extension wall is 106 inches away from existing house back end of wall is 78 inches away from existing house. It is not square but I need to build a hip. Please can you explain how we can achieve a same pitch hip without flat roof. I am waiting for your reply Thanks
im no carpenter more DIY enthusiast .. but great explanation of a hipped roof, but 1 thing missing the cut at the birds mouth on the hips how it done on a corner has to be 2 ,, 45 degree. Cuts on a compound angle ??? somebody please educate me ..
Birds mouth is not good in high wind areas and metal brackets are the best as they are secure and do not weaken the rafter. And Toe nailing the rafter is a weak joint.
Great to see a hand-built roof going up ..... not too many of those these days....... And work-til-you-drop?? .... Great in principle, but quite often Mother Nature has 'other' plans ..... #AARRGGHH!!!!! :-(
I did not understand why he said that the wallpates had to be secured with temporary ceiling joists as they would be secured down with restraint straps, did he mean that because he was not putting in a conventional ceiling he just fixed some timbers across while he was fitting the rafters.
You have it precisely. Thr roof can push the walls out or dislodge the plate if you don't tie it in. Once the rafters are in you still need some kind of ceiling collar or tie to keep it in place. These days it could be a ridge beam of steel or very heavy timber.
all he had to do was double up the sole plate birdsmouth cut wouldn't be so deep weakening the timber do not forget your SABREFIX TRUSS CLIPS or Simpson Strong-tie if you're so particular like me i use them on every roof i do.
As I read it, the new timbers were 6x 2 while the originals were 3 x 2 so with the height above plate being the same the only way to keep the rafter to the same line was to cut a deeper birdsmouth. I don't understand how doubling the plate helps but hopefully you can explain it. I like the truss clips. I use the Teco ones on some jobs.
Love your videos gents but the Working At Height Safety on this video is not at the standard it could and should be.... if you need any help, give me a shout
Yeh it should be a criminal offence to advertise and work unsupervised as a bricklayer or carpenter unless you are city guilds qualified. Same as with gas and electrical work.
You guys are bloody awesome. I got diagnosed with rhumatoid arthritis in 2015 just as i was learning roof work, I was a trainee carpenter, i'd just finished my level 1 diploma. My tutor had us doing bulastrades roof timbers and everything techincal by the end of our first year (we were a clever bunch, all in our 30's). He took me on and i was doing great. Then on the middle of a larger dormer, both of my arms gave out and ceased up, it took a while to get me down off the scaffold. I then got the diagnosis of rhumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia I couldn't work anymore. I look at these videos and still want to be doing this, i'm gutted. Your videos just bring it all back for me, it's like i'm still doing it. I thank you for these vids, i wish i was there with you working. Thanks boys
The London ForeverThat is such a shame to hear your story. Just as you were getting into it and making a go of it. There is nothing quite like a good day out on site. Sorry you can't be there.
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My family have 110 years in the Timber trade, ( Same company still trading, small but wonderful) from supply to joinery. My father was passionate about it and even now bed ridden suffering with Dementia he recounts his experiences in those rare lucid moments.
I left the profession to become a cop and yet that passion for joinery still lays there. It was my savior after I became ill.I retire within the next few months. That passion I have no doubt will rise and I'll start again I know as I'm buying tools.
I'm saddened that youngsters don't seem to have a desire to take up the tools. I know I left but that was for ambition and other reasons.
Quite a lot of my colleagues are ex trade and now quite a few are leaving to go back as times have changed so much.
I was just touched by your comments about retirement Roger, profound and accurate.
I love your channel, your reviews, banter and projects. Keep it up guys. Whens the next installment?
Roger it's been an absolute joy to watch The Extension as well other uploads over the bank holiday, I got back onto the building game about 3/4 years ago after spending 8 yrs at an office refurbishment company, the builder I work for is a little old school and doesn't spend ant time explaining anything, being a more mature Labour (40+ lol) it can be frustrating when your eager to learn as your never to old, I've had to pick it up on the fly, but I can honestly say that your poles apart when it comes to ethic, your preparation, the materials ect, I can honestly say that it would be an absolute pleasure to rub shoulders on any building site, keep up the good work my good man
Thank you for your words of encouragement. We get plenty of stick so it is nice to have some positive stuff. I know what you mean about lack of communication. Some people don't like to share knowledge. Where would TH-cam be if that attitude prevailed?
Very wise words Roger - retirement does indeed kill you - who wants to sit at home and rot away anyway!Fantastic your old man worked till 85, the way you are going you'll hit that mark also. Great vids from yourself and Robin!, just gained another subscriber.
Dementia sets in very quickly for retired builders.
You can't have your mind and body racing like that for so long to just abruptly stop.
Make sure you have a hobby or passion beyond the trade.
I know too many good blokes who went mad within a year or two of retiring.
I did my first roof aged 17 with an old master carpenter close to retirement. 45 years later I cut the hip and valley extension on my house, because I could and much to the astonishment of a young building control officer who these days usually only sees pre made trusses...so nice to see a proper tradesman at work, (must be something about the name!)
Alas I have seen first hand too many young kids come out of school and go into college without the basic knowledge required to work out the angles and lengths that we old uns find so easy... I just wish we could get more of the trades into schools so the next generation of potential tradesmen learn early enough that literacy and numeracy are vital to their working lives. Enthusiasm by itself isn't enough, you need to be able to read a copy of Goss's before you can begin to understand it and apply it...
I found a copy of Ralf Goss' Roofing ready reckoner in our local bookshop and self taught myself roofing, the carpenter I worked for wasn't big on teaching or passing on skills, to him I was just a goffer. Carpentry was something I always wanted to do and years after I realised he wasn't half as good as he thought he was, but as a 17 year old you don't know any different !
I remember years ago helping a friend do his roof extension. We cut the rafters and the bird's mouth over the wall plate. Sometime later, while recounting what we had done, he mistakenly referred to the bird's mouth as the bird's lip! Even all these years later I still refer to them as bird's lips; makes me smile everytime. Lovely work Robin. I like to use a plywood saddle on the ridge/hip connection; just a bit more to nail into.
George
I think most people put up that little plywood triangle. Robin likes to do things the hard way.
Yes when I was 21 I too had one thing on my mind... hitachi framing nailers
Speaking as a cabinetmaker woodworking since I was 14, loved listening to robin and can totally relate to his passion and a real professional. I have longed felt woodworkers to be viewed as just simple manual work! It's a profession like any other highly technical and highly skilled.
(I'm 32 by the way , not 15 and working for a year 😂 )
Truly inspiring to see you love what you do just wish I had the chance to work with someone like you
You can see Robin is a really skilled tradesman but, like yourself Roger, the best bit is the passion for the job and to do it right. You'd be in safe hands with u two on the job I reckon. Keep the vids coming mate, I always look forward to the notifications.
Thanks John. I was working with Robin yesterday on a timber frame house and he is in a different league to me.
He watches every single detail like a hawk and, for the most part, it is completely justified but it can make for a stressful day because you are waiting for him to tell you that it isn't good enough. Just about the only job I did that got his full approval was when I made the tea.
Skill Builder we all need a decent cuppa to keep us going tho mate!!
Can you give Robin’s details, please?
Thanks for the big up Roger! It's only horses for courses! You are a great multi talented tradesman!
You've got a great team there and the workmanship is excellent.
I'm an Electrician, i don't find any passion in my job!..However i can plaster i can render i can do a fair few things..But when i see brickies and carpenters.. i feel they are the true tradesmans! .Im 45 now but i'm going to jump on some learning next year and study this art!!! Thanks for a wonderful channel...Cheers guys!
No for money, you are right and lesson for others.... Thanks for posting
The man loves building roofs. I can respect that!
Absolutely love watching you guys. Your down to earth and bloody good at what you do. Thank you
Found this channel by sheer random luck. There is something incredibly satisfying watching you chaps work. Great stuff. Cheers!
Good to know. All we need is a million people like you and we are made
hahaha 👍
Loving the commentry. Keep it going.
I agree about the retirement, no such thing , commentary, so important. 😎
You're great at narrating. Nice video.
Brilliant brilliant series - A lot of skill not only from your building, but the video editing and footage is 1st class.
Really nice series so far. Ive enjoyed it, and learned so much already. Also love the Jokes throughout the video. Wish u al the best drom the Netherlands.
Glad you like them!
Robin hes the man i personally think any apprentice would be lucky to be taught by him really, i would pay for that kind of training.
I am 63 Roger and my wife tells me to retire. On what I don't know. I still love it, I have put a good few roofs on but it's not my specialty. I am a joiner so generally specialise in other fields. You can tell Robin is at home doing roofs. Building regulations are always on the move so looking at your videos keeps me up to date with them. Many Thanks
Hi Jerry
63 is young these days. I am 66 and looking for another 4 years before I think about easing up. I love work. I sometimes hang around and am slow to get out the door but once I am there I realise it is essential to keep going
Skill Builder you're doing well Roger and don't look your age. I think I remember you on The Steve Allen show on LBC. Very professional.
@@hi-tech55 Thanks. I think it depends what day you catch somebody on. Some days I look 90. Yes I was on the Steve Allen show and the Fix It Phone In with Therese Birch. Whatever happened to her?
Skill Builder I don't know. Steve Allen is still going strong.
Robins roofing skills aside, Roger, you are right about retirement in the construction industry. There is a tangible fear amongst most older guys that when you stop, you drop. I watched another one of your videos only recently, in which you were laying heavy concrete blocks above eye level, and there isn't many men in their early sixties, let alone their late sixties, that can do that. Cheers
Doing it again today. No brains
@@SkillBuilder You're doing a great job Roger. Working AND keeping the excellent SB machine hearts beating. 💪
I’ve been a chippy for 18 yrs now but wen I was coming up I asked anybody and everybody to teach me to cut a roof and no one on the firm would as their all on price. I’ve taught myself since but I can’t imagine there’s many lads coming thru now that are getting taught, it’ll be a shame wen the design is limited by the lack of skilled men available to build it
I've just started a chippy apprenticeship 2 months ago first day I was chucked on the roofs and I'm still there definitely my favourite part of chippying
It won’t be a shame at all.... means I can charge more.
That's the problem with alot of firms where people start out, most on price so not their responsibility to teach you and you end up getting stuck on the little jobs for a long time and if you dont havr much drive yourself could take you forever to learn anything
Dan Canning so true, them little jobs and snags make a good chippy tho. I remember turning up on my first day, the boss put me with two older chippies and first thing they said was “well we don’t need you”
Awesome & inspiring to watch your videos, Roger. Thank You.
Robin is amazing!
It looks like you've cut the corner of the plate at 45 deg the width of the hip (45mm) , I always done that but some carpenters I know leave it square, whatever works for you works I suppose. Another thing good to know is measure the distance vertically from the birdsmouth (corner of plate) to the top of the rafter and use that measurement on the hip plumb cut for the backing measurement of the hip, that way the top edge of the hips and rafters will be exactly in line,. I'm sure you know this Robin but just mentioned it for those learning the trade. Just found your vids and loving them, very informative for someone new to the trade. As a builder once said to me "it's not a game" after someone said to him about the building game, and he was right, it's not a game.
Loving the SB series keep it up. Learning a lot from you guys. Any chance of doing a video on valley and jack rafters?
Hi Mr Lucas
We have shot the jacks (not the valleys) and it is in edit so watch out for it.
Keeping us in suspense.
You 2 have some teachers material in your genome and definitely the sound of your voice helps you very much, the knowledge from my point of view is coming from experience and from that gift the Creator gives to everybody.
A big advantage is that you clients are willing to accept the teaching the classroom on there are jobs even you are one price .
Probably here is Rogers merit because listing to his voice I don't think it's somebody in this country cannot be convinced about this voice .😊
Glad you mentioned the birdsmouth depth and the solution as the first ones cut the birdsmouth was way too deep :)Neat job though, nice to see someone that cares and doesn't just shove it up
Nice work Robin......
looks like a quality craftsman is that his wooden house extension you filmed?
Good stuff lads, enjoyed the video 👍
timber work is the best work
At 21 yrs old there's only one thing on a young man's mind...........
This Hitachi nail gun is awesome!
Haha this is my favourite TH-cam channel
Robin is a good clear builder / architect.
super nice woodworking
Work of art, great woodwork
Loves his hitachi tools
Great work guys ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Robin. Help needed. Could you point us in the direction of fitting a wall plate please. I have to fit a 19’ ‘wall plate’ on a squash court gallery. Having taken off the old timber cap I have bare brick, a few of the bricks are smashed from where the amateur tried to drive nails into masonry to fix. Suggestions?
Your spot on with your comments, I have worked with my dad for 30 years in roofing ,although he's slowing down he'll never retire. He said he'll die one day with a hammer In his hand. It's just in your blood.👍
just like robin I love cut roofs,but the brickie must be good too!,true too what Roger said about other "chippies" ,they run a mile!,great team you got there,very rare here in Reading Berkshire
Learning a lot 👍👍
Is that the brushless hitachi? Was considering getting rid of my paslodes for air but if this hitachi is as good as I’m hearing it might sway me.
Fantastic Roger, loving the video's.
Regarding retirement's effects. Our Dad lived to 101 years and retired at 57 but he had hobbies to keep him busy.
Thumbs up even before the video loads. 👍👍👍
Ha! That is what they call blind faith.
Nice work
Could have done with your help today Robin. First hip roof I've cut in years and I was scratching my head. I calculated the run of hip out the book and it was to long. Got it to fit but I had to manually measure it. I'm think I went wrong by not allowing the fact I cut a 45 on the wall plate and didnt take of this measurement. I over word is the length of he hip to the point of the wall plate before you 45 it? Please help haha
Looks like Hemel Hempstead but what a find that Robin is
Cant wait for number 9
Bloody wonderful .
True masters.
It's really nice job
perfection
Is the rise of the the roof the measurement from the top of wall plate to the the pitch line 2 thirds down from the rafters top or to the actual rafters top edge
top of wall plate to the top of the rafter where it joins the ridge. Sometimes the ridge board is set slightly higher so it is always the top of the rafter. This explains it with more detail th-cam.com/video/_TmXZ0cGNEI/w-d-xo.html
Hi. My Dad built a brick shed 40 or so years ago. How do check if it would be ok to build "extent the front of it" and if it will be ok for a granny flat ??
Love that phrase,man was to work and work till you drop.
Great channel! What type of wood was used in this project?
Pine
Goes to show it doesn’t matter the brand of tool. It’s the brain inside the skull, connected to the hand , holding it. I used to work with a 70 yr old Sicilian who owned the cheapest crap ever to be manufactured and yet he performed magic everyday. Said the expensive tools were too heavy carry.
super nice
I love the channel, nice job!
Can u do a video with test impact driver, with stanley impact driver
Did u cut the dihedral on the hip...wasnt sure if I could see it.
Can you ask Robin if I can come work with him for a week? I wanna learn from him.
Hi Chris, maybe I should run a course!
Hand cutting a roof is not so easy. I have done it and I wasted a lot of timber on cockups. That’s some nice work.
Thank God, somebody working in metro measurements 👍🏻
True words man was designed for work.
Hi im doing my own extension now i used 150mm hex timber screws on the rafters and you guys used nails should i nail them and why? Cheers great vids btw.
No you are fine. The roof is sitting preety on the steel and the wall plate. The collars are bolted so it is solid. There is not problem with high winds in that sheltered location and it is strapped down.. The roof on the main house was built with cut nails and a 100 year on it is still there.
That roofer knows his stuff as well doesn't he?!
In the US East it’s a crows foot on the westcoast it’s a seatcut
👍🏽25oz estwing framing hammer👍🏽.
big blue
It's the best! Well spotted guys
A working knowledge of trigonometry and algebra is the key to figuring all this out from first principles if you're not a chippie. Pay attention in the maths class kids!
Quality.
Hi,
I am building a side extension. Front of extension wall is 106 inches away from existing house back end of wall is 78 inches away from existing house.
It is not square but I need to build a hip. Please can you explain how we can achieve a same pitch hip without flat roof.
I am waiting for your reply
Thanks
Nice💖💖💖💞
I'm hooked
im no carpenter more DIY enthusiast .. but great explanation of a hipped roof, but 1 thing missing the cut at the birds mouth on the hips how it done on a corner has to be 2 ,, 45 degree. Cuts on a compound angle ??? somebody please educate me ..
Tilt your saw foot to 45 degrees and mark the pitch across the end of the hip. I think the pitch in this case was 33.5 degrees.
We only use the 345 from one corner to the other, or as close as we can, much prefer it.
Birdsmouth on gable rafters seemed to have a lot cut out. Should be 2/3rds of material left
Martin Durrant thats what i thought, I'm only 2 years in but I've always been told you should never be over a third on your birds mouth
Dan Canning Maybe front plate bedded on to high or discrepancies from front to back existing plates
I noticed the roof plate is not fastened down on the inside wall with roof brackets?
Birds mouth is not good in high wind areas and metal brackets are the best as they are secure and do not weaken the rafter. And Toe nailing the rafter is a weak joint.
Jago u shud take on everything robin is showing you hes a master craftsman i did the same at ur age an i regretted ever since
Great work. If 'jaygo' isn't interested then take me on instead!
Great to see a hand-built roof going up ..... not too many of those these days....... And work-til-you-drop?? .... Great in principle, but quite often Mother Nature has 'other' plans ..... #AARRGGHH!!!!! :-(
Bread and water? Perhaps you meant bread and butter. Anyways, interesting to see how a roof can be built well :)
I did not understand why he said that the wallpates had to be secured with temporary ceiling joists as they would be secured down with restraint straps, did he mean that because he was not putting in a conventional ceiling he just fixed some timbers across while he was fitting the rafters.
You have it precisely. Thr roof can push the walls out or dislodge the plate if you don't tie it in. Once the rafters are in you still need some kind of ceiling collar or tie to keep it in place. These days it could be a ridge beam of steel or very heavy timber.
all he had to do was double up the sole plate birdsmouth cut wouldn't be so deep weakening the timber do not forget your SABREFIX TRUSS CLIPS or Simpson Strong-tie if you're so particular like me i use them on every roof i do.
As I read it, the new timbers were 6x 2 while the originals were 3 x 2 so with the height above plate being the same the only way to keep the rafter to the same line was to cut a deeper birdsmouth. I don't understand how doubling the plate helps but hopefully you can explain it. I like the truss clips. I use the Teco ones on some jobs.
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Surely if you double up the wall plate, you’re taking even more out of birds mouth?☹️
Jack rafters next cheer🖒
That’s a fit roof installl
This is exactly what I was looking for hipped to gable roof. Problem is... it seems very trick for a DIY unfortunately.
This might be a bit easier to follow
th-cam.com/video/_TmXZ0cGNEI/w-d-xo.html
Love your videos gents but the Working At Height Safety on this video is not at the standard it could and should be.... if you need any help, give me a shout
It should be the law that all tradesmen should work to this standard.
If your in a trade and don't enjoy your work. You should not be doing it.
Yeh it should be a criminal offence to advertise and work unsupervised as a bricklayer or carpenter unless you are city guilds qualified. Same as with gas and electrical work.
Call it a birds mouth here I'm America too.
Did Robin learn his trade with Persimmon ?🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chippies run a mile from this kind of work 🤣🤣🤣
Just like 35a project but every one looks older, apart from roger
You need to go to spec savers or, did you perhaps mean I looked ancient in the old 35a project?
Screwing the rafters is not a good idea screws break just saying
Metric I mean 🙄