Dialogue: Francis Fukuyama and Tu Weiming 杜維明

This is public lecture part of the dialogue on Confucian Humanism as World Governance which was held at Stanford University on 2012.02.21. There will be a Q&A session uploaded separately at a later time.
Tu Weiming: Lifetime Professor in Philosophy and Director of Institute for Advanced Humanistic Studies at Peking University and Research Professor and Senior Fellow of the Asia Center at Harvard University.
Francis Fukuyama: Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow, the Center on Democracy.
This event was co-sponsored by the Center on Democracy, Development and the Rule of Law's 'The Governance Project' and the Confucius Institute at Stanford University.

[@KGS922]

I love listening to these two academics, especially Professor Tu.

[@ThorstenPattberg]

“But in a different kind of mindset, a person who’s more powerful, influential, have more access to information and ideas, ought to feel obligated for a much larger human community to survive.” - Tu Weiming

[@figuredraw8756]

Thanks for the notes

[@ThorstenPattberg]

“If we exercise the discourse of human rights ‑‑ assuming I’m a billionaire, you are homeless ‑‑ I respect your rights. I respect your ability, your right to express your concern, your freedom of religion, and you respect mine. I have nothing to do with you. I have nothing to do with you. I don’t have to give you one dollar, because, not in the legal or moral constraint of the human rights discourse, I owe you anything.” - Tu Weiming

[@changliu3915]

Seems like Fukuyama came around to what we've known about China for years. I remember growing up and hearing similar such ideas talked about amongst my parents and their friends back in the 90s.

[@arbide3]

Thank the heavens for youtube.

[@olylifter69kg]

my right ear is so lonely...

[@thechinadesk]

Champions of democracy made the world safe for democracy. Champions of freedom must make it safe from democracy.
- Quotations from Chairman Zhu
I urge everyone who values freedom to read the following essay by the late Joe Sobran.
The Myth of “Limited Government”
www.sobran.com/columns/1999-2001/011220.shtml
Excerpt:
We are taught that the change from monarchy to democracy is progress; that is, a change from servitude to liberty. Yet no monarchy in Western history ever taxed its subjects as heavily as every modern democracy taxes its citizens.
But we are taught that this condition is liberty, because “we” are - freely - taxing “ourselves.” The individual, as a member of a democracy, is presumed to consent to being taxed and otherwise forced to do countless things he hasn’t chosen to do (or forbidden to do things he would prefer not to do).
Whence arises the right of a ruler to compel? This is a tough one, but modern rulers have discovered that a plausible answer can be found in the idea of majority rule. If the people rule themselves by collective decision, they can’t complain that the government is oppressing them. This notion is summed up in the magic word democracy.
It’s nonsense. “We” are not doing it to “ourselves.” Some people are still ruling other people. Democracy is merely the pretext for authorizing this process and legitimizing it in the minds of the ruled. Since outright slavery has been discredited, democracy is the only remaining rationale for state compulsion that most people will accept.

[@Frip36]

Joe was the man.

[@ThorstenPattberg]

“For China to become an economic man ‑‑ in other words to learn all the values that I just outlined, including, of course, human rights ‑‑ is not enough. To give you one example, which may be simple, hopefully not simplistic.” --Tu Weiming

[@bobchong]

49:15 If Prof.Fukuyama could by that time travelled to the future which is now, and he could see what Trump has done and what has happened to him so far, he would kind a wanna swallow back his words:) but still great respect to Prof.Fukuyama's wisdom and intellect:)

[@Frip36]

Trump was gotten rid of, just like Fukuyama said.

[@sohu86x]

In 2024, Trump is still very much around. ​@@Frip36

[@sohu86x]

Posting from 2024, Trump and Project 2025

[@pauloyih1]

I hope Fukuyama will have his own Chinese team, or Chinese scholar to have captured the various words used by Tu in this discussion. for the best of all sides.

[@sinalbertckwong6406]

.. the bible in Daniel also demand something like this "for much is given, much is demanded"...

[@pauloyih1]

In the way Tu is expressing so much of the Chinese culture -- his use of words -- most of the Chinese were verbs -- thus action .. and this is where the niche and the emphasis of the up and coming of the use of Cross Cultural education -- where more work will be done to cross these many bridges and gaps -- or else, the greater of these "Cultural Dissonance" will not allow the Western scholar to have the fuller picture of China.
More importantly, the sort of academic or intellectual elites or elitism must be reduced so the contents of what Tu is talking can be translated to the public ..

[@ChandelierDemocraticSino]

eminent lifetime professor, 杰出终身教授

[@IKnowNeonLights]

A full engulfing boredom fell upon Laozi. Within such a state..... Where is Dau...!? The boredom asked Laozi. Where is Dao...!? Answering, asked Laozi.
A magnificent crane as one would, just appeared out of everywhere, picked Laozi up, placed him on its back and went up, straight up to the first heaven.
Laozi not even knowing the crane, the flight or the first heaven, was dropped off on a unknown land to him before.
Pleasurably being within full boredom he could not escape but seeing none other than Confucius himself.
Ni Hao greeted Laozi, to which Confucius replied... I don't understand.
Laozi turned in full gentleness within boredom and said...!? There, is where you can find Dao boredom, and I think I like this democracy thing.
©
March 27/2024

[@mrmarkl328]

Amazing

[@jianqin7997]

Why he say Taiwan is a country? lack basic knowledge and respect!

[@sohu86x]

Because in all matters, it is it's own country.