It Just Keeps Getting Worse
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
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Nigel Amos was a prince after winning the 800m silver medal at the 2012 Olympics but never the king.
Facts. Talking a big game even though he never won the crown. Don’t get me wrong he was good but the 800 guys today are next level
I'm surprised 2012 isn't the year Amos was alleged to cheat since he was never able to replicate that performance, despite being only 18 at the time.
@@synchronium24 might just be because he didn’t get caught
@@thedailystride5407 Could be. I just want to stick to what's proven so far, since that's bad enough.
Here's the thing, I would say, that since the 90s many junior athletes have been using muscle growth hormones to get an advantage at a young age. All it takes is recognition at a young age, and with the right training, coaching, backing, and sponsorship, you have a pro sports career from 18 onwards whether you make it to the top as an adult or not. I would say it is way more prevalent now in athletics, than ever before. There seem to be so many teenage athletes running times that would have made them olympic champions in the past, and even world record holders not so long ago. 🤔 It all seems too god to be true.
Kinda this. When I was a teenager I competed at a high level and thus got a bit into the whole thing of international sports. Many people said that you should "Juice up" to the gills before you're 18 because you can get away with it so easily; and then hope you can stay in form and land a sponsorship.
I'm just so glad it's clean now, it's not like a bunch of 143 and 144 guys ran 1:41 this year or anything😅
That's the shoes
That finals was insane
@@nooffencealan9135the difference between something like the dragonfly and the air zoom victory 2 definitely isn’t enough to drop 2-3 seconds on an 800. And especially not the difference between the Air Zoom Victory 1 and 2. Hell, dozens of athletes have ran 1:41-42 before the dragonflies and other super spikes were invented.
Amos is so ballsy for saying he'd run down the 800 greats of this year, the king has been in exile is even funnier, but i love the energy
An 11 year ban is devious work
I’d be more surprised if anyone was natural.
@@kovy689 bra!!!!
@@kovy689 The only rule is don't get caught.
@@MarkRozema-v9m Yup. Many slip through.
He never had the throne
lol good point. Silver was great but no throne to be had
Amos also missed an out-of-competition drug test in February 2015 after a doping control officer failed to locate him at his South African address.
Almost every athlete has missed a drug test at some point. Indeed Nick Symmonds missed two in the same year, and he was almost certainly clean. I'm going to stick with the hard evidence that Amos was caught with a banned substance.
I’d be more surprised if anyone was natural.
The guys that get smoked in the qualifying rounds maybe 😂
Doping bans for Americans 0-2 years if even banned (knighton etc..)
Europeans 3-4 years
Kenyan 4-120 years
lol
Good one.
something fishy is goin on. 😂😂😂😂
Nigerian 10-lifetime ban.
Amos isn’t Kenyan 🙂
Bro is wilding. He probably won't make it out of the heats in Tokyo. He probably doped in '12 more than in '22 considering he's never gotten close to 101.73 since. He should take a page from Letsile and be honest with himself.
Letsile doping???
@@yxngflame7774 I meant Nijel should be honest with himself about his abilities like Letsile is
He ran 1:41 in 2019
No one will ever run 101.73 bro
@@large23 "101.73" means 101.73 seconds (aka 1min, 41.73secs).
"like Jon Snow" 🤣🤣🤣
😅
I like that he's hungry for it if nothing else
Its not a question of how well he performs because he's 31 but how well he does when off the JUICE!
🥤🥤🥤
He dominated the DL circuit is a great 800 athlete with the fastest 400m time of 800 guys
BUT he never put in a complete season since 2012 I really like that you made a video about him man this is grrat please keep us up with stuff like this Peak TRP
Not just coming back with his pre-ban shape, but since he was doping before, if he's clean now, that's another challenge.
He won't be clean, just like everyone else. He may be more conservative or pick better PEDs to test negative with though
I mean I admire his many injury and career set-backs he is already one of the all time greats for his great ability in paced races
Tho he lacks tactics he ran only well in fast sub 1:43/42 races maybe this honest pace will suit him more
I feel like him and tebogo are a quite similar Tebogo is the most talanted sprinter and amos is the most talented 800 runner of all time (WU20 Record, WU20 Title, many 400s in 44 seconds…)
Tho tebogo actually does something with his raw talent amos seemingly just was very unfortunate, with that in mind always when I watch Tebogo run I hope he don’t go down amos path as being injuired 24/7
That’s a peptide, Amos shouldn’t be banned for that
huh, what about HGH stimulating peptides? testosterone simulating peptides?
Lots of challenges for sure however he DOES get magic shoes now....
Nigel is a fun guy, i'm rooting for him.hope he can pull of a decent comback even tho we know it'll take more than a miracle for him to go up against the current crop of top 800m runners and put up good competition😂
Figures you wouldn't mention Coleman ducking out on doorbell rings..
Multiple whereabouts violations
Don't feel bad they're on it, feel bad if you're naiive enough to think anyone at the top is clean.
It is not the innability to stay humble, what is he supposed to say? "yeah I´m comming back and I will perform poorly", like what??!! you come back and you go all out, mind and body
Staying “humble” is just for outsiders to like you. It’s dumb. People see humility and humbleness as weakness. Sad
If bro says he’s gonna come back better I believe him. He’s adamant that how he was caught was foul play. This tells me he’s quite privy to the testing protocols, and how to avoid getting popped. This also implies he’s learned how to dope better than ever during his time away. If this is true he will be unstoppable if he runs PRs.
Those claims are wild.
Test him again after world championship😂
London was a loooong time ago.
Dude who was doping to get to the top thinks he is “the king of the 800”.. when he doesn’t even have a global gold medal I don’t think and is far from the WR lol if he does manage to be competitive again.. it will only be because he has a better doping program now.
4:52 very clever writing TRP
Maybe His confidence stems from something Else. Perhaps he Got his Hands on a newer GW1517, Which won’t be detectable in the foreseeable seeable Future!!
Divine and Blessing? why didnt god help them win instead of using science to cheat. their god must be weak or dont care about them 🤣
You are missing the point. He thought those drugs were DIVINE and she also thought she was receiving BLESSINGS from the drugs. Why else were their performances being enhanced.
Don't insult God like that. It's not like God himself chose their names.
TRP will never recogize that everyone fast is on PEDs
He been Cheating.. why do you think he wasn’t running like that
Phew, nice to see that he's been humbled by his ban. completely repentant.
I would not be surpriced that he is using insane amount of doping to build a foundation in the background while he is serving his ban, and is going off the doping now in order to be "clean" the day his ban is over, thus having an insane comback that will make a lot of people suspicious. The other thing is that he was in a situation where he didn't have so much to loose when it comes to doping, because he was in his late twenties, meaning that his natural condition had peaked and he knew it. So the only time that doping is defensible is when you are over 25 years old, and you know that you have peaked, and your are close enaugh for a podium in a championschip that doping would make a podium possible. Then it's kinda okay, but before 25, then you need to see if you can improve on your performance naturally, or even switch sport to some sport that the carryover of skills is so good that you can make a nice carrer there in stead. So doping is the last resort when all else have been tried.
But doping is still against the rules regardless of age. It's just not okay to use it to gain a competitive edge, even if you're starting to age past your prime. That's just a lousy excuse to rationalize it.
Well if they haven't been testing him during his ban, then he could come back really fast...
Do you see what i see, i mean the conditions, no wonder that some resort to cheating at some point, you eventually get banned but you aren't forced to go back to where you come from. I do not agree with such a choice but i can understand it.
doping ban should be lifetime 😡
the way you said 30 years... man I felt destroyed
Theyre all doping. Its just whos caught.
I saw a really good video on TH-cam about Olympic doping for sprinters. The Olympics actually allow doping for certain levels of testosterone..not sure about other substances..some athletes are actually dumb enough to exceed the allowed doping limits and that's when they get into trouble. And since Olympics allows some form of doping or PED, guess what? No athlete is going to pass up that advantage. This is why people actually think that Bolt is "clean"..he dope like everyone else, just within the allowance
Shortly after haha
I always thought Nigel Amos was likely doped before the 2023 olimpics.
WADA please get Knighton next
2:22 Tokyo 2021 400m hurdles final > London 2012 800m final
Enhanced Games!
Did it happen?
Forget Amos - what's going on with Donovan Brazier? When he is he coming back? Amos never had the throne. He couldn't even beat Brazier when it counted.
Well, if he does win it will be his last race because there's is no way that you can come back after 3 years out and run faster than you ever have before. Then the next ban will be in place.
At 31 yrs old and without PED Amos days as a top runner are over.
I think he will win some meets. He may even win the world championship. There is no way he is naturally going to improve his personal best 12 years later.
I wonder if Bolt will ever be caught. I sense a similar story to Lance Armstrong’s in a couple decades time and it’ll all come out. If this is true I really fear how bad this will be for track and field
Arop will break Rudisha's record in Tokyo. Take this to the bank.
We don't talk about cheats....let him rest!
Not ogaybare she was my favorite sprinter....another one bites the dust.
shelly ann fraser price doesn't run under 10.7 in her twenties and then in 2022 at 34yrs old starts running 10.67 and have multiple races under 10.7 very suspicious!!
The narrator/producer seems more offended by Amos' braggadocio than the fact that he's a drug cheat.
He sounds like Black Panther.
Let's say we get AI involved in drug testing, to spot biomarker patterns for dopers that we haven't noticed yet. If it was 90% successful at spotting even the most cautious of dopers, what % of Olympic finalists would you expect to be caught? My guess is over 50%.
Amos has been out of comp for 3 years and his PB isn't recent, i dont think he has a hope against the currrent crop of 800m guys at least in his first season. I honestly thought hed retired when the ban hit. You should do a companion video about Shelby Houlihan who's another middle distance runner coming back from a 3 year doping ban in 2025.
On that note, is it possible that Bolt, Lyles, Tebogo and Kishane are on roids?. That's the ones I'm most interested in
You've been able to get Cardarine delivered to your door from the regular web since at leas 2015. It's be more impressive to hear one of these guys just say, yeah. I doped, but I'm working hard to get back naturally. Lying off the bat tells me he's just going to dope in a different way now.
Majeed7k is a Huge BattiBoy
"People say anything to remain relevant "
Delusions of grandeur😂
Doping should be ban for life
Do they continue to test while you're banned?
If not, couldn't he be juicing the whole time and return with residual gains?
Great talent, terrible management, the guy is delusional and thinks he was set up for the ban when he was probably ignorant about what he was taking. After that one great Olympic final, he never had a race that was comparable in terms of how he handled the effort. He usually started super fast and would crash and burn at the 600m mark. Unless he's learned that lesson and is able to control his own pace properly in the first 400m, I struggle to believe he can compete at a medal level with the current top performers
Yeah that Eric dude doesn't look like someone who would do some sh*t like that...
11 years. well that is a deterrent. The tales from Amos re: missing passports, foul play sounds like nothing more that whataboutery and distraction. Guilty plea = guilty
So my guess is he doesn't get tested when he is banned, so maybe he has doped up as high as you can go, and is currently smashing world records in training. If this is the case he will clean himself up before he comes back and hope he still has some of the drug gains. What do you think to this possibility?
I don't get the point of doping if the goal is to be the best. You can't feel like the best if you cheat your way there.
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I hate the clock bait titles 😞😞😞
Another serious problem, I m afraid. International?
You forgot Randolph Ross
Carl Lewis took steroids too 🤷♀️
No... Carl Lewis was on GH
Karl Lewis cannot sing- he proved that attempting sing National Anthem at Sports Function years ago - he is number two worst Anthem performer - Roseanne
Roseanne Barr was worst at number one
Is there proof of this with lewis?
@@pete5691It’s known he failed a test before the 1988 Olympics and USATF didn’t release the info. Decades later when it came out the IAAF didn’t seem to care much and obviously this is very controversial.
Wait he has no senior titles lol king??
1:39 easily
GW1516 - so Cardarine? Is that on the ban list? Maybe it wasn't widely available in 2007, but SINCE then, it has become. I still doubt how much it helps you with cardio and endurance, it kind of does the opposite of meldonium, and we know meldonium works. So if meldonium helps, and GW does the opposite, it shouldn't help? I don't know, I haven't tried it.
I’m just gonna go against the grain here and say I don’t care who’s using and who’s not,. If they need to make two divisions like they have in bodybuilding and these people want to push their bodies and their health to unnatural limits I’m all for it.
"I took PED's because I lost my passport" these dope head excuses always crack me up
Look at the 400m Women Runner Nassa she came back and did not fairly but good! So it’s possible he can do good.
trp is the GOAT 🙌🙌
Hubris. Careful. 😂
What's bad about he said? All these guys are doping let's just be honest. Let Amos say what he wants to say then will call him out should he fail... The title of this video is just clickbait
I'm 99% sure that multiple athletes have been screwed when they didnt try to do any doping. Some of these substances are obscure AF
Im 99% sure athletes are using obscure substances because they believe it will be harder for them to be detected
That substance is very easy to get. That being said wada is not trustworthy and probably frames athletes on a regular basis. Every athlete should have a 3rd sample for their own private lab and make the wada inspector sign a sheet saying they are personally liable if all three samples don't match.
@@stevenmiller6725 Probably frames athletes on a regular basis huh. Some people will say anything without any supporting evidence no matter how ridiculous it seems. What you have said is libellous
@sticktothefacts8905 they framed Ben Johnson. Tested positive for 100 percent pure stanazolol. Expert witness pointed this out in court in the 2000's. Impossible to pee 100 percent pure stanazolol. They are crooked plain and simple. That's why some people test positive for nandrolone (from a pork burrito) and get banned while others test positive for trenbolone from ox tail and can still run. All facts there.
Athletics is a route out of poverty for many as you don’t need a lot of equipment to run. Where there is huge pressure to win there is huge incentive to cheat. I applaud the efforts of WADA to take doping seriously with Biological Passports and whereabouts requirements as all athletes are damaged by those who cheat
Where do we get to watch your podcast on this channel?
Tbh I belive him
Donavan owns him
6:52
😱😱
Cheater?
I really don't understand why people use these drugs. You know there going to test you. Your going to be court eventually. I understand wanting to win/do well and im sure theres alot of pressure on athletes but why risk it.
Plenty didn’t get caught. It’s a gamble of course, but with the right doctor it won’t be detected. There are drugs out there that’s not being tested for. In the 90s there wasn’t a test to detect Epo for example. You can also time your cycles to the point where it won’t be detected.
Why give a cheat any attention?
Who did he cheat? All the other dopers?
Just allow it. Everyone does it anyway. Leave the poor athletes alone instead of keeping a sick system alive.
So fed up of people like you praising proven drug cheats coming back to the sport. Drug cheats deserve life time bans. Drug cheats do not deserve people like you gushing over them.
Return of the King!!!
King of what exactly..? lol he’s not even the African king of the 800 lol
So what exactly is in this video about something getting worse?
I'm so sick to effing death of clickbait titles that have NOTHING to do with the content.
This was just a video about a has been drug cheater making delusional claims about how he was set up and how he's still gonna be better than everyone else when he comes back. Won't be watching any more of your vids.
The naivete of thinking it's a "country problem" when it's a sophistication problem. None more sophisticated than Norway.
Bro everyone at the top of athletics cheats no one is clean
Second
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an olympic athlete using steroids?! I'm shocked! 🥱🙄