Agreed when reading I also kept hoping Hisoka would’ve joined, but also figured he would die doing so if he didn’t team up. Hisoka without prep losses to every single RG member with relative ease if they’re serious and swift, but with prep he would have been able to hang with most of them 1v1.
There has to be a Nen condition that Hisoka placed on himself where he gets stronger when he teaches or reminds his opponent that his Bungee Gum has both the properties of rubber and gum.
I think it’s just his ego. He wants to know that despite his opponent knowing the full extent of his abilities, there was nothing they could have possibly done to win. He doesn’t want to beat someone and think he won because they were trying to guess his ability, he wants to crush them.
I know Youpi falls back heavily on instinct, but he wasn't incapable of strategy. He even decided to feign one of his rage explosions to trick his opponents. Because Youpi never considered stuff like that before and it came to him out of nowhere in the middle of battle as a stroke of brilliance, I think Youpi might have been a strategic genius that was just never applied until that night.
Not only that but after his transformation he became very level headed and as the narrator said: he stopped seeing things in simple manner. For example, he deduced that there was someone who can become invisible and that it wasn't teleportation. I think people underestimate Youpi's intelligence. He evolved mentally extremely fast during such a short fight.
Yeah all the ants are pretty much genius level. Some just more naturally, and others have to actually put some effort but it’s very minimal. Youpi wasn’t dumb, he just never saw the need to actually think.
Is Ging underrated? I mean, look at it from the Angle of Powerscaling and he looks pretty good seing how he strongly up-scales from Gon and Killua at their (non-suicide-bomb) Best.. Why would Ging habve much less Talent than his Son and his Son's Same-Amount-of-Talent Friend? !!
Imagine how passionate the fight between Hisoka and Pouf would be. Pouf being the Drama queen that he is would begin to cry and scream contemplating how his defeat would bring shame to the King. And Hisoka being the weird bdsm Clown guy that he is would be having a massive Schwing going on. He would start moaning midbattle from how powerful Pouf is. And how good the thrill of combat is making him feel.
I think Hisoka wasn't involved in the Chimera Ant arc because the writer knew he couldn't keep Hisoka alive with the type of personality he has. Hisoka would have gotten himself killed in order to enjoy the fight 😂
Razor broke Hisoka’s fingers when he blocked his spike without using gyo. Imagine Hisoka trying to block Pitou without using gyo loll. He would get one shot no question. Hisoka is my fav character in this series but come on guys this isn’t even a fair fight. The royal guards are on another level when it comes to physical abilities and aura capacity.
@@rafazardly gyo is when they concentrate their aura in one spot to increase defense. So if they don’t use that they can’t block super strong attacks. Gons fist is not made of nen but very few can block his rock without using gyo.
@@mk_-8794 i understood. technically i think biscuit called it ko when applied to other body parts than the eye but this is really irrelevant since I understood what you were talking about. reading gyo i could only think about eye aura use and some kind of invincible technic (by the way hisoka would clearly have a first hit advantage seeing he can disguise his aura better than the mastodon pitou is)
@@rafazardly Ko is when you focus 100% of your aura into a single spot and it’s usually for offensive attacking abilities. Kinda like when Feitan put all his aura into his sword when fighting zazan the ant chick. I agree Hisoka would get first hit but idk how much that would help tbh.
Feel like some people are underrating Pitou quite a lot here. She got quite a lot stronger after that Kite thing. And beating someone as strong as Kite with low difficulty after pretty much just being born and not even having nen abilitys is insane. Also the jump she did later on to reach Meruem and Komugi was twice as strong as the one she did before at Kite. So Hisoka being able to manage Pitous speed is really questionable. Also Pitou tanking Jajanken from Adult Gon and not just still having her head but also still being alive after that is fucking impressive. So in terms of durability there is a gigantic gap aswell. Royal Guards are just completly overpowered monsters.
I don't think Pitou tanked that Janken lol. Pitou was rendered immobile and had her face caved in. He didn't completely destroy her body but tha doesn't mean se tanked it
@@SolidSnake240 She still had the ability to think and use her abilities and chopped off gons arm so to say that she didn’t tank it especially when she got hit several more times is just wrong
@@Promethazin3 that was after death nen ability as which Gon kind of allowed it to happen. (not sure how death is considered "tanking") Also, Gon just pummeled her even after she was dead. Just to make sure she was dead "Teachinig of Kite". He wasn't punching her continuously because she was alive....
Pitou did not “tank” anything from adult gon lol she was conscious, but she could do literally nothing afterward, having to turn her own body into a puppet.
One thing that you forgot about: Pitou managed to take Meruem's hit like a champ when she/he suggested that the king should use gyo to find rare humans. Meruem said it himself: "Pitou, you are quite the strong; I was trying to kill you." It takes a massive amount of power for Hisoka to deal enough damage to Pitou for her/him to weaken down. I don't think Hisoka has the ability to achieve such power which is why I think Pitou will win against Hisoka.
That's Pitou's durability contributing to his strength but not strength itself. Hisoka doesn't have to be able to take a hit from Meruem in order to beat someone else
i believe it was a hit with the same force he killed "normal humans", so hisoka would be able to survive it as well. I personally dont think even pouf can take a full blow of meruem who took off limbs from netero.
@@kutss1143 I know, but what I was trying to say is that Pitou is able to take a solid hit from Meruem meaning that Hisoka has to try hitting Pitou extremely hard to damage her/him.
@@nihalsingh6327 Hisoka may have the ability to survive the hit, but it would be a critical hit to Hisoka. What I'm trying to say is that Hisoka has to try and hit Pitou with enough strength to deal enough damage to Pitou and I have no idea on how he could achieve such power.
I don't get Hisoka's obsession with Gon. Gon's adult transformation isn't even close to the power Gon would have if he got to that point naturally. Hisoka wouldn't stand a chance lol
@@K4inan I always thought that Hisoka's definition of "ripe" is just when the character is strong enough to challenge him and not when they reach their peak potential... Gon's max potential would probably kill Hisoka with a backhand 😂
I think Pitou would be the easiest fight. She wouldn't handle Hisokas trickery. Strongly believe Pouf is Hisokas biggest threat becuase he has the potential to understand Hisoka nen. Pitou would lose to Hisoka like Cheetuh lost to Morel.
@@eyebrawler6567 not really,hisoka is fast as fuck and he can use his bungee gum ho become even faster .His aura quantity rose so high so he can set traps using bungee gum ,create an opening to Land a fatal blow . Hisoka's main power comes from the fact that his bungee gum is very versatile and it was stated many times ,and his intelligence.
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i mean he’s correct tho, ppl just hype the royal guard up bc their raw strength but throughout this entire show the creator has been saying ….. *THATS NOT ENOUGH* all of morels fights are the best example of that, no matter what advantage you have over someone, it’s about skill & intelligence. something that 2/3 royal gaurds lacks
@@tyshawnevans475 Is anybody surprised tho? Basically all anime matchup arguments devolve into the loudest people demanding it be viewed entirely as a slugfest. "Big number good"
@@tyshawnevans475 Errr, Pouf and Pitou are perfectly capable of being intelligent in battle. Not to mention, combined with their capacity for intellect, they're *extremely* strong and managed to last through the strategies of multiple Hunters trying to take them down (Youpi, specifically). The fight is WAY too one-sided to be fair.
I'd say that of the three royal guards Youpi is the strongest one in a combat scenario. He's practically hardwired for fighting and also his abilities are entirely made for doing so. His best way of dealing with whatever poses a threat to the king is killing it, so of course he is the best fighter of the three.
You're putting a lot of emphasis on Hisoka's ability to bungee repair himself, but can he do this easily in the middle of a fight? Can he make himself a new heart? A new brain? The conditions for his alleged immortality are fairly specific, and the Guard can certainly interfere with all of them. I agree he stands the best chance against Pitou, but I also don't think Pitou would humor him very long and would pretty quickly take his head or heart in the process.
I agree, even with his supposed power amp, I find it hard to believe he can fight a royal guard member solo. Much less beat them. Besides that, I’m a big fan of your work, Plague! Your Ready Room Wrastling animation got me into Star Trek. So thank you for that and every other animation and trifusion video. Btw, I miss your Internet IRC series. It was very funny!
Yeah and for the Pitou speed statement that is a horrible example in my opinion Pitou was like miles away and still managed to be fast enough to steal Kites arm even if he was protecting Gon&Killua it doesn’t matter Pitou was was that far away but still managed to snatch it now imagine the speed up close I doubt the new born non nen user Pitou who bodied Kite with just some paper cuts would get killed by Hisoka but I guess you could argue wwe haven’t seen Hisoka full strength in post mortem but doubt it would be significant enough to kill the monster of a character Pitou was
Hisoka will use wit and experience as pitou is a new born with no combat experiences though she can use en to sense him. All he has to do is piss her off and boom mindgames
I think the reason why pitou was picked so much is because of portrayal of his/her strength, physically a monster who even netero would try to avoid wasting aura to take down
Hisoka's regen only really applies to his limbs. If any of his organs get decimated he dies. Sure he made his heart beat again, but what if he had no heart to repair in the first place
What you said makes no sense. He can repair his limbs he can repair his organs. If his aura can do his heart function then why not just have a heart made of aura? Imagine he abuses his power too much and becomes raw aura and thus die in the process, that be crazy. Could be a restriction so he doesn’t spam it.
Pouf could break into near cellular level (“trillions of particles”) and reconstruct upon exposure/inhalation inside Hisoka’s trachea, lungs (causing suffocation and death), eyes (causing blinding), ears (hearing impairment), etc. I don’t think bungee gum would help there. Hisoka could die an instant death, trying to fight an opponent he can’t see; one who actually enjoys skirmishes and guerrilla warfare. What’s more: hypnotic wing scales. And his cocoon and chrysalis abilities could be used to recover/delude, exactly as he did with Morel. Finally, Pouf is incredibly shrewd (at least on a similar level to Hisoka). Perfect foil to Pitou’s immeasurable raw strength and Youpi’s malleability and immense aura. Lest we forget, Pouf is supposed to be the 2nd strongest guard (it’s been confirmed that their order of “strength” follows their order of birth; rather counter-intuitive, but true). The catch would be if Hisoka were to figure out where Pouf’s main body/center was hiding and destroy it (and smthg tells me he’d figure out the presence of a control center incredibly quickly). It’s a tight match, but I personally think Pouf could end up easily coming on top (provided he does smthg to guard that control center). The primary reason Killua had an advantage over Pouf is because the latter was tight on time. Had he gotten a chance to formulate a strategy, the outcome would’ve been significantly different.
I think the king would annihilate the tiny poufs in his body with the sheer density of his nen, not to mention the boost it would get from his anger at the insolence of pouf trying to kill the king@@Leon-oy3bp
About Pitou, first of all Kite was able to react to Pitou when she was jumping to them from over 500 meters, not in a close combat, which is a completely different thing. Also damaging Pitou is pretty much impossible for Hisoka. Pitou took a direct Hit from Netero's budda statue and took ZERO damage, and only Gon with inslae lvl of Nen and his "Rock" could actually damage her, because Gon's first strong kick with crazy Ken in gorwn state did no damage to her as well, so Hisoka literally has no move that can damage the royal guard. If Pitou is not able to outspeed Hisoka and Cut his head off using her speed, at best this becomes a battle of atrition, where Pitou obviously wins.
Netero's ability doesn't seem like that of an enhancer. That statue thing he creates is either a conjured or emitter ability. So the slap he used on Pitou looked like emitter ability to me, like gon's paper
Hisoka could kill her using his gum and the strength from Pitou like gum on the back of the head and a stone with nen on it when she jumps like crazy she would bang something on the back of her Head with her own speed and strength. He could pin her down too but im on your side hisoka would die before he could use a plan she would kill him fast fast.
@@NeverStartTradingOptions Pitou would never die from a stone hitting her head with a huge speed, she is way too durable for that, but yeah, at least we agree that She's too fast and too strong for Hisoka to do something and pull up a trick.
@Luke Safran Pitou in the Japanese is called "aitsu", which is a neutral pronoun that doesn't exist in English, like with Crona from Soul Eater. So going with the Japanese, Pitou's gender is completely ambiguous, but Viz just chose to give Pitou male pronouns
“Hisoka is more durable than Pitou” Are you really gonna say that Hisoka can tank an attack by Netero? Edit: Like Netero took 1 look at Pitou and said “I ain’t fucking with that bro”
I don't think Hisoka would stand a chance against Netero either, especially the Chairman's mastery of Nen and ridiculous physical attributes. I think Hisoka will be interested to fight Pitou since he has a fetish for strong opponents, beat Pitou? Depends I guess though the video made sense but I think that Pitou can defeat Hisoka, would be a good match but a quick one in my opinion.
@@lg77718 Hard to say. Netero is faster than the speed of sound. But Gotoh could fire coins as fast as bullets and Hisoka was both able to dodge, catch, and counter attack those same coins by using his Bungee Gum.l, Which has the properties of both rubber and gum, to propel himself. Yea, Netero has way more aura. But like Knov and Morel said. Aura isnt everything. And like Biscuit said, on a good day, a D can beat an A having a bad day. Dont always assume they're at their best.
The Edit is something that actually irked me in my recent rewatch. Later on Netero casually swats Pitou away. So the entire latter Part of the Arc would´ve been gone if he didnt chicken out of the fight with Pitou.
@@LanToaster Its not that he just casually swatted him He did no damage to Pitou at all. Its just Pitou made a bad move by attacking from the air while not being able to maneuver in the air. Meaning he could be removed from the fight without fighting. In chess this is the equivalent of moving your pawn forward on 1 turn and the enemy bishop taking your now open queen.
I wouldn’t say that Hisoka can truly regenerate. I wouldn’t even call him durable. He can make good prosthetics. But it’s not like if Pitou cuts his head off he’s gonna make a bungee neck and bungee arteries.
I would debate that, if the will is strong enough, the nen will endure, I’m not even sure that total obliteration could stop hisoka now, his body is a nen puppet essentially and provided he can rebuild, which he always can with bungee gum, it means he needs to be restrained or sealed in some way, or he will just keep rampaging until his will is exhausted
I believe he was taking post anime hisoka, who restarted his own heart. So yeah, he is durable. I think of him like left 4 Dead characters who pop dive pills, he doesn't lose steam while approaching death / 0 hp. So he is deadly till rip.
I think you severely underestimated the kitten's durability... she took a hit from the king and survived only with a bruise, when he was trying to kill.... and she took netero's attack without suffering any harm, only getting knocked back
@@depressedasfook2893 you do realize to hit someone far away enough so they don't come back in time, requires a lot of power. Especially considering the "someone" being pitou
Even worse, pitous face tanked multiple clean hits from Gons fist unprotected and it STILL took multiple hits to bust. Not that a clean hit couldn’t cause Pitou to stumble but this is prime form Gon who is already an enhancer
Let’s say Hisoka used his bungee gum, which has the properties of both rubber and gum, to completely immobilize a royal guard. Could he even deliver an attack strong enough to damage or even end one’s life? Doubt it.
@@mrbruv03 I'm up to date, his book doesn't make him invincible he struggled and had to use everything on hisoka, the guards are in another world physically from them, it's no contest
@@kingoftheclunge No don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying they’ll beat the guards, but they can definitely hold their own after their recent buffs. They’re like two of 5-6 characters that can actually somewhat hold their own. Beating them is a whole other thing.
The only reason Pitou couldn't attack Netero was because Netero was insanely fast with his 100 Hand Guanyin Bodhisattva. Hisoka is not faster than Pitou. Pitou's Terpsichora could easily be used to behead Hisoka before he has time to think. But it's only my opinion and doesn't matter lol.
Eh the 100 hand is super sonic as stated in manga and the coins hisoka stopped where faster speed wise hisoka is faster than every character with the exception of killua and possibly netero but post mortem hisoka is much faster so speed wise they match I agree with her mortem nen though unless he runs or sees it coming he is dead so the question becomes can revive again or would she even use mortem nen if he clearly isn't a threat to king?
trepischora doesnt boost her speed on levels like godspeed. Also the power she got from trepischora came from her seing gon as a threat to the king and boosting trepischora to new levels. hisoka would still be able to deal with it, i dont believe its so one sided
Have you seen Hisoka move with Bungee gum? *cough* cough* Gotoh *cough.... Now imagine A boosted Hisoka-Bungee-Gum-Postmortem moving.... With Regeneration...
@@ashikvikk5338 I think Pony was trying to say that if Hisoka is able to attach his gum onto pitou, he can maybe have her attack herself on a rare occasion.
@@yovvii_moncler that would be a hilarious scene lol. But it's almost impossible for that to happen because of Terpsichora. And Hisoka had not shown to do that before. (not dodgeball example plz. that's bad)
I mean, if Kite can at least react to Pitou, I think an incredible nen user like Hisoka could as well. In terms of endurance, I think that post-mortem Hisoka is also incredibly durable. I do think he underestimates the raw strength Pouf would possess though.
@@roofied_galahad1675 I could see a case for Hisoka keeping up with Pitou but that’s without her Hatsu (forgot the spelling) and Youpi pretty much blitzed Knuckle in speed later on.
@@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 Hisoka was able to react to, dodge, and catch coins fired with the speed and power of bullets. Netero was able to catch Meruem with supersonic speed. Hisoka keeps up, as much as yall hate to hear it.
This is a ridiculous question to even ask. No. No is the incredibly obvious answer and to even entertain the idea that it could go the other way means that you're way too much of a Hisoka fanboy. He'll be lucky if he can even make one bleed before he dies. The only reason the Chimera arc didn't end with absolutely everyone dying is because of Meleoron and Komugi.
@@anthonyshlemon3848 hes right tho? the guy who made the video is overrating the hell out of hisoka's bunge gum and straight down playing the royal guards power. hisoka WISH he could make them bleed a drop of blood before getting killed
Collin Herrin it's a hypothetically wrong interpretation of the events. Only Gon won against a single royal guard, the rest, including netero couldn't even break a single bone. When mereum hit pitou with intention to kill her, she didn't die. While netero got shredded with every attack from mereum that lands. The entire phantom Troup would have a very hard time beating a single royal guard. They are just too durable hurt
7:49 Pitou was an incredible distance away (possibly 2km given her nen range) and Kite still barely had time to react, losing an arm in the process. I think a better indication of him being able to “keep up” would be the amount of damage that was caused to the forest. It seems Kite didn’t get blitzed right off the bat (after losing his arm) and survived long enough for the environmental damage to take place. 9:16 How would Hisoka land a devastating hit? A full power Kite (albeit armless) only put a scratch on Pitou. What does Hisoka have in his arsenal to bypass Pitou’s durability? A supercharged bungee gum punch?
Well we saw that she took considerable damage from being punched through the trees I think hisoka could easily get her to jump at him full force where he would attack bungee gun to here feet and then he just spins and hurls her really fast it would barely hurt but if he was good enough it might work after a while just like how netero was starting to make the king ache after a long time
@@shwitz3614 When she got punched by Adult Gon with jajanken? Yeah she took damage from the punch, definitely not the trees given her durability. She for sure isn’t going to take any significant damage from being slingshot into trees at any speed
1. You saw that crazy jump Pitou did after Netero pushed her away right? 2. How is Hisoka going to damage her? She tanked Neteros blast and a JJK from adault Gon (granted she was knocked out, but her face was still there). Hisoka is no where near strong enough to damage her. There is no way that she would lose
@CaptainAwesomesworld ok it happened like this: 1. JJK Hit knocked her out. 2-3 JJK Was not shown. 4. JJK Destroyed her head and after that, she came back to attack him
@CaptainAwesomesworld in the manga you will only see 2 JJK. There the first Knocks her out. And the 2nd kills her. Anyway that is a good idea. The Manga and the Episode was awsome
@CaptainAwesomesworld it was a weak strike down. People don’t need to use their strongest attack while attempting to kill. Meruem tried to kill Pitou with a swing of his tail. An argument against that would be when he said “I’d like you to go away” (not verbatum). I don’t believe Netero was trying to kill Pitou but him not using zero hand plays no determining factor. If he did use it that would make it clear that he did have intent to kill but the opposite is untrue. Also you have to be super delusional or have no understanding of powerscaling if you think it would be “a good scrap”
The Royal Guards are on a whole other level of power. I doubt Hisoka would win one on one. But still would be a fun fight to watch. Makes me wish he was in the Chimera ant arc.
Yea but top tiers like Ging, Pariston and Beyond probably could beat the Royal Guards. As the Ants are considered a minor threat on the Dark Continent.
@@Stick1Master Imagine being mad at a joke on the internet for merely existing past some arbitrary timeframe you determined to be excessive. Stop policing peoples fun.
I appreciate the analysis you're putting into this, but I feel like there should've been more specific pointers on how Hisoka could make up for the sheer physical difference between him and the Guards. Besides the one regarding Kite, which I feel should be taken with a grain of salt anyway because Gon was clearly the one who took Kite's death the hardest, and in that period of grief he could have very easily made a poor call. That being said, even with that pointer in mind, just because Kite could see Pitou coming when they shot themself straight at the group does not necessarily translate to combat speed. As for the comment about Hisoka only needing to land fatal blows on them...I don't really understand that idea, because you never really establish what that win condition is. it comes off as though you're really downplaying the physical abilities of the Guard for the sake of argument, which I think is fine, but it should have been made clear beforehand. Because as is, it makes the prospect of Pitou and Pouf being poorly matched against Hisoka feel fundamentally flawed when they can just...punch his head off. I could see Pouf not wanting to do that, but the option is still there. Hisoka's clever, but I don't think he can compensate for the stark contrast in power between him and the royal guard, even if the discussion of their nonphysical stats leads to some interesting conclusions.
Regardless of who wins, I’d love to watch hisoka fight any of themcause his marshal arts and fighting style coupled with his intelegence is just that god damn good , would be interesting to see how he would personally handle these fights
@CaptainAwesomesworld What are these arguments lmao ? Pouf is the smartest royal guard, much smarter than people like Chrollo. He was trapped only because of his breakdown ( Komugi)c but he easily outsmarted Morel afterwards. And he didn't die from radiation but poison
This is some of the biggest hisoka wank I’ve ever seen 😂 Against youpi there is nothing he can do to damage him. If youpi gets somewhat serious Hisoka stands no chance. The only reason knuckle morel and shoot survived against him is cuz youpi saw them as no more than flys. He has the best chance against Pouf as pouf has no offensive feats but the sleep scales he let off would be pretty difficult for Hisoka to avoid Pitou withstood an attack from both Netero and Meruem with almost no damage shown. Yes neither of them were their strongest attacks but Hisoka has no durability feats to even think he could withstand an attack from Netero or Meruem. Hisoka has no attack anywhere near those of Meruem or Netero where as Pitou was able to cut off Kites and adult Gon’s arm with one attack. Netero said himself that Pitou was stronger than him(although probably not true) where as he completely disregarded Hisoka and thought nothing of him. People don’t understand that The royal guard are on a different level from humans that are at the level of Hisoka Chrollo or the zoldycks.
I have to agree. I've never remotely thought that Hisoka had even close to enough physical strength to damage any of the Royal Guard and seeing as that's his primary way of fighting, he stands no chance.
Gon and kite didn't defend with ken. Kite was trying to instruct them to leave and took his eyes off what was coming factions of a second mean everything in the nen world and gon literally just gave his arm up on purpose. By taking a hit from the chairman and meruem are you referring to the pimp slaps she got?
@@realdeal9304 while true that they most likely weren’t defending themselves I doubt Hisoka could perform such a feat on Kite let alone Adult Gon. He has no feats to argue he could do so, what his cards are going to cut off Adult Gon’s arms? As for the hits, I refer to Meruem hitting Pitou with the intention of killing Pitou. Yes it wasn’t his strongest attack but Pitou wasn’t protecting themself with any nen either and it was a hit that had previously killed other chimera ants and humans, it was no little slap at all. Pitou shakes it off as if it was nothing and showed very minimal damage. As for Netero’s attack, Netero intended to hit Pitou so far away that they wouldn’t be able to do anything during the castle invasion, it takes quite the amount of force to send something as large as Pitou flying so far away they have no hope of returning. Not to mention Pitou seemed to have taken almost 0 damage from it, they showed no signs of injury at all. Hisoka was seen taking damage from a fishing rod from early Gon and struggling to deal with Razor’s dodgeballs. Hisoka is outmatched
@@miguelv4345 well it's true but as stated in the series like with bisky if you don't defend with some type of nen your body would be destroyed doesn't matter about your physical prowess. The kings hit was on the penguin guy that didn't know nen btw. It was clearly shown that gon didn't give a f*** and just let it happen and didn't even see pitou as a challenge with his words saying something along the lines "is this really what killed kite" and then continue to blame himself for what happened
@@realdeal9304 Hisoka has no offensive feats to prove he could do as much damage as Pitou did whether someone is defending with nen or not. I’ll give you that Meruem is a bad argument as he wasn’t using his full force. But my arguments about Netero stand as well as Hisoka taking damage from Gon and Razor
Pouf is so underestimated, I think all the royal guards have a scary amount of aura and physical prowess that trumps most fighters in this world. Not saying Hisoka can’t pull it off against any of them but definitely an uphill battle
The thing about Pitou is they never took anything seriously until a fight they couldn't possibly win. I really believe Pitou had much more potential than was ever properly represented. With that being said though, Pouf is absolutely in the same boat.
I don't think Pitou speed would be manageable for hisoka. Pitou was coming from over a MILE away when she got there in a split-second and chopped off Kites arm, I don't think the average top-tier nen user could with her speed
Pitou is the most dangerous Royal Guard in physical combat. The speed and strength would be comparable to a tiger vs a human. Youpi was stronger, but in comparison slow. I think the biggest flaw here is that people think any of these guys are somewhat comparable to peak Gon. Netero for example did no damage to Pitou and he had the intent to kill with that strike. Gon is a Freecss, that bloodline can flourish on the Dark Continent. There are only 4 known characters to survive a Dark Continent voyage. Survive as in come back without any major afflictions. Zigg Zoldyck, Isaac Netero, Linn Horsdoeuvre, and Beyond Netero. Essentially, if you arent Zoldyck/Netero level, the Royal Guard are instant death. The only feasible way to defeat the ants is to be peak Freecss level.
I don't think hisoka's body parts are entirely replaceable, they're just being substituted and I don't think they're even all that useful to hisoka... might even be limiting the amount of nen he has for fighting due to constantly using it as substitute body parts. Sure he can make it look like he hasn't taken significant damage but hisoka is is really bad shape after his fight with chrollo. Honestly love these kinds of discussions though!
He uses them to fight right after making them, including increasing his speed with the whole rubber limb propulsion shenanigans. Hisoka got an insane buff after Chrollo.
@@XiaosuRCT even with the rubber limb propulsion and the nen buff after death I don't think he's better off than him coming up with pacts and new techniques (he could've just covered his body in rubber or made rubber soles for his shoes and that would've given him a similar buff minus the Nen buff... whatever that means tbh). And again he's just not in good shape overall even if his abilities got slight buffs all around. Debate aside, all I know is the next time we see him in a fight when it's not going his way he's going to look absolutely demented when the texture surprise wears off 😆, gonna be a crazy scene.
The only downside i can see in him replacing his limbs with bungee gum is the nen drain which might not even be that bad considering hisokas nen was already top tier before being boosted by his death and we have yet to see hisoka show any nen exhaustion whatsoever
I think Hisoka would have faired well against the Royal Guard. Illumi even commented that if Hisoka had been paying more attention to the world, he could have faced Netero or Mereum. Illumi wouldn't have teased Hisoka with that missed opportunity unless he knew for sure Hisoka would have stood some sort of chance.
Well the only other ants he'd killed were lower ranking ones from before so it's safe to assume that the hit wasn't at full strength because he'd just assumed that she'd been at the same durability as the lower ranking ants
@@DivineDEC Nah, Meruem said he intended to kill Pitou with that hit. He was using a lot of power in that strike. It's not like Meruem couldn't sense the strength difference between fodder and one of his royal guards. Even fodder could tell the difference in strength between themselves and Pitou, so why not Meruem? A hit like that from the King would take Hisoka's head off.
The ant king clearly wasn't sensing the difference in durability between the two. If he had, the he WOULD have killed her if he intended too. But he didn't, so he wasn't sensing the aura at the time. Hisoka would have taken the hit no problem come on. Hisoka has taken off people's heads way stronger then the base ants that Meruems tail was wiping off. That isn't even a feat worth mentioning in Pitous favor.
@@-wallenstein-7540 They could tell the difference thanks to the fact that they were able to sense Pitou's immense aura reserves combined with their intent to kill. I don't think the king had yet learned nen so he couldn't sense Pitou's aura, and Pitou hadn't expressed any killing intent near or around the king yet.
@@-wallenstein-7540 no he didn't hear me out it's just like pushing someone assuming they would fall but don't but someone else with the same built fell to the ground I consider it the same thing happening here
Pentagon could actually be a cool Nen Ability for Gon. I'm imagining a Crazy Slots + Jajanken style ability with 5 options and even Gon doesn't know what Jajanken ability he'll get in exchange for more power.
@@cezarysiemieniewski5502 no memories? what? he reincarnated as a chimera ant due to his slot ability. He didn't undergo the typical process that fogs up the past lives of ants.
You're downplaying Aura quantity a lot and how much it actually matters in these fights. No one, and I mean no one could deal significant damage to the Royal Guards without using hacks. Youpi was never damaged in the slightest only just annoyed, Pouf was damaged because of the cells being burned by Killua and even then it was a 50% power Pouf (Albeit the technique probably could've worked to kill smaller cells from a 100% pouf) but otherwise he was perfectly fine, and Pitou was killed by Gon using a hacks powerup that put him on the aura level of the king. Aura quantity is directly related to how much defense a character has (This was shown very well in the fight of Gon vs Owl, Snake, and Bat where they were landing plenty of hits but had hardly done any damage because of Gon's practically limitless nen reserve) and all the royal guards are brimming to nearly the max with it, I firmly believe that Hisoka could straight up not damage any of them, even post Chrollo fight Hisoka. If I'm missing anything please feel free to correct me.
Hisoka nearly broken his own arms with bungee gum by having it wrap around his arms. I'm pretty sure hisoka could use bungee gum to get the guard to damage itself. Still wouldn't be enough and the condition to do that is so rare i doubt it could be done
Base Pitou was already the strongest Royal Guard, she low diff’d Kite who’s Chrollo/Hisoka level Thing is even IF Pitou was killed by Hisoka he’d still have to fight Post-death Pitou who gained the post-mortem Nen amp and was way faster than Godspeed Killua and was able to take off Adult Gin’s arm (although he let her rip it off, still is a scaleable feat).
@@SM-zg8mi Maybe it was just the anime but it looked like pitou was a bit beat up after the kite fight, no potential lethal damage or anything but he didn't do no damage to her.
@@kurtlourenco5843 It's a bit controversial since in the manga Pitou just has a bit of blood on their face, but otherwise are completely unharmed. It's also speculated that it could just be Kite's blood. Pitou looks a bit more roughed up in the anime with their knee being scuffed.
@@xavmanisdabestest The situation you're talking about had Hisoka fighting Gotoh, the bungee gum was being twisted by the coins. I'm not entirely convinced that the bungee gum would be strong enough to get Pitou's hand to hurt herself. Number 13 of Razor's Devils was able to stop the dodgeball from being pulled back by the bungee gum causing Hisoka to disable the ability. Let's say for sake of argument that Hisoka could get her arm in a position aimed right at her heart, and also had the mechanisms set up to get a direct blow. She could just dispel the aura on her arm and block with more aura on her chest. I cannot think of a circumstance where he would even get her in that position. Also Kite reacted to a freshly born Pitou with no nen abilities, a much more refined Pitou would decimate Hisoka with low difficulty.
Bruh. Kite being able to almost react to Pitou while they were jumping from literally miles away is not the feat you're making it out to be. Also, you make it sound like bungie gum is a win condition against Pitou, and I'm absolutely in agreement that that's true against most targets, it's completely ridiculous against Pitou. Gon was on-par with the king in terms of raw power, and needed several Jajankens to break Pitou's skull. No amount of rubber, gum or texture is going to accomplish that.
It in no way said he was on par with the king on any level. It implied given all the other high level fighters around that he had enough power to threaten the king. That is not the same as being on par. As for bungie gum, there are numerous ways he could use it to take out Pitou. The problem as to why I highly doubt that he could, is her speed. He is nowhere near fast enough to evade her long enough to setup anything that would work. His only way of being able to beat her would be to pre setup a trap and lure her into it. And even then it's a 50/50 at best. Especially when you consider how cut throat she was in battle.
@@zephirol4638 In most translations, Pitou literally said "His power is now equal to that of the King". And that was while Gon was still in the process of powering up.
@@Hissingace110 No. It said that his fang may be able to pierce the king or something along those lines. I mean if you want to get the exact quote we can. But I assure you, you're wrong. But I digress. You need to take into context that Pitou knew that the zoldycks/netero etc. were all there which would make her statement of "may" insinuate she is talking about the totality of foes may be enough to harm the king. Not just Gon. Otherwise she would have been just as worried about netero and zoldyck. Especially if a 2/3v1 confrontation. I mean hell you can even compare the damage in the Pitou fight vs the king and netero to see Gon wasn't even on par with netero much less the king. It was clearly an indication of the odds as a whole and not directly a statement about gons power alone.
@@zephirol4638 You're doubling down on your own headcanon as though it's objective fact. Pitou took a direct hit from Netero with zero damage, and never demonstrated concern for the King's safety with regards to both Netero and Zeno together, relative to Gon. Assuming that Pitou only became concerned when a third contender that you're convinced is weaker than either of those is sheer nonsense. As for the quote, I can save you the trouble. It's translated two ways. I'm the official English translated anime, Pitou says, and I quote: "His power is now equal to that of the King." The other translation is quote: "THIS ONE'S fangs really would have reached the King." Feel free to Google it so you can stop making yourself sound so high and mighty while being demonstrably wrong and/or baseless.
@@Hissingace110 I'm not... I'm literally taking the original verbage verbatim and what we actually see take place in the manga/anime. No headcanon needed sweetheart. No, she was knocked away from a non full form netero. Which is why he makes mention of hoping she doesn't return, rather than remarking about her durability. Because it wasn't meant to be a damaging hit. Furthermore if she was that close to Netero's power he would have never confronted the king whom he knew to be leagues above the other 3 in the manner he did. Right.... Because she felt confident that he could handle the 2 of them. But if you understood how basic math works. 3 power houses are more than 2. So if the 2 of them equaled lets say 80% of the kings power. gon may have tipped it over to where there was a chance for the king to be actually harmed having all of them + whatever unknowns all going after the king. Which was her fear in the moments when she fought with Gon. The actual direct translation from the source is and I quote "His fangs could really have reached the king" Could is not definitive. Much more she never seen the king at full power to know what he was capable of. Just rough estimates. Her statements are based on potential, not actuality. So the only one here baseless is you With your fanservice translations and headcanon that you're trying to somehow project onto me. Despite there being plenty of irrefutable evidence proving you wrong So with that said. Please don't waste either of our time replying unless you got something factual to back you up I don't have time to keep writing novels about all the reasons why you're wrong.
Major problem with this match up is NEW Hisoka has no feats, so besides commenting he has regeneration now, we're forced to pretty much still match the same Hisoka that was always meant to be overshadowed by the later arc antagonists, against those same antagonists
11:18 I think Pouf using Beelzebub against Hisoka would actually lose him the fight. He states himself that is clones are not that strong, so I think they'd pretty mcuh just stick to bungee gum like moths to a moth trap, rendering pouf unable to reform into his full self. If Hisoka does not lose interest while whittling away at Pouf, I think he has a good chance (better even if he can manage to find the main body amidst the comes earlier)
But at the same time, Pouf is not an idiot to throw the entirerity of his clones towards Hisoka who is trapping them. He will probably send a handful and realise that the tactic has gotta change. Pouf's got a genius-level intellect, only overshadowed because of Meruem and Komugi. But I do commend you for your creative thinking, I didn't think about using his bungee gum (like with Gotoh) in this instance.
he doesn't even need beelzebub to fight hisoka all he needs to do use spread his scales and make hisoka inhale them and its over. and unlike morel hisoka doesn't even know what his scales do so he'd have no idea not to breath them in nor does he have morels lung capacity which doubly fucks him.
Honestly I think Hisoka could beat all three royal guards in a one on one match because of their lack of battle experience and the fact that they all have a one track mind about the king. Hisoka plays on your emotions and train of thought, so it wouldn’t be hard for him to psychologically mess with them, break their concentration, and use his wits to go in for the kill shot.
Well a MAJOR point most are overlooking is Pouf has the sleep/hypnosis scales that he releases with Spiritual message. To fight him you would have to hold your breathe the entire fight. Morel was only able to hold out because of his significant lung capacity. Also assuming Pouf doesn’t split his body up his physical strength should be close to the other royal guards.
Remember tho, his hipnosis ability isnt strong at all. It was said that the only reason he was able to hipnotize the people was because they had been marching for hours while constantly hearing the sound of footsteps and the purr of the tanks. They were physically and mentally exhausted. Morel wasnt holding his breath with Pouf
@@chimasfortniteclips5637 I would say the strength the hypnosis in that scenario isn’t set in stone. He was using it on hundreds of thousands of people over a wide area as opposed to a singular target in a contained area and Yes Morel was holding his breath during his fight with Pouf. Pouf even commented on the fact that he instinctively knew not to breath in his scales and in the Cacoon Notice that morel didn’t say a word out loud to pouf and only monologued in his head. They spoke outside in the yard once Morel saw through Poufs plan
If netero couldn’t injure pitou with a blindsided bodhi sattva hit then how could anything hisoka does injure pitou , this is like when people say they could take a bear in a fight with the right strategy, cmon
Netero's objective was to separate Pitou from Meruem so he could fight him without interference. I saw this somewhere else, but someone made a really good point that Netero 'shoved' Pitou instead of 'punching' her. Sure, the punch would've done more damage but wouldn't have created enough distance to separate her from Meruem.
Pitou is arguably more dangerous and Youpi in a physical fight. Pitou wasnt a sitting target, they could straight up rush characters like Netero and Kite. Netero being the only one (outside of a juiced Gon) to be able to even consistently counter Pitou. Pitou vs anyone is essentially a cat vs an ant ironically (or a human vs a tiger). On top of that, Gon and Netero are both enhancers, Chrollo and Hisoka for example could never even muster the same raw attack power as the other two. It took a peak Freecss to kill Pitou and that family is capable of flourishing on the Dark Continent.
@@Maartun lol hisoka couldnt even beat chrollo how can he face a royal guard (maybe only pouf). But i like your confidence, its showing stupidity written all over it
...Is Ging underrated? I mean, look at it from the Angle of Powerscaling and he looks pretty good seing how he strongly up-scales from Gon and Killua at their (non-suicide-bomb) Best.. Why would Ging habve much less Talent than his Son and his Son's Same-Amount-of-Talent Friend?
You keep saying that the damage pitou could do to Hisoka would be negligible which just isnt true. She can rip his legs off or punch a hole through his chest. I think you are seriously overrating his bungee gum arm reform feat.
you think hisoka would be a still target though. its not simple to mutilate hisoka lol. look what he could do against razor to absorb maybe 90% of the damage of that ball
@@ambro3075 i'm not saying hisoka would crush pitou nor that he would be favorite for winner, but i think the objective of the video is to tell that the probability of win is not altogether 0% for hisoka. any second counts and you don't know where and how the battle will take place... maybe 10-20%, it would not be IMPOSSIBLE for hisoka to achieve it. we dont even know how much his aura boosted. and if his nen is as strong as pitou but we'll find only during the dark continent arc?
i know that pitou is stronger than razor. i think in brute force razor is stronger than hisoka but in a fight id bet hisoka had more than 50% chance. he was actually restricted by the game rules and wanted gon to shine that moment.
Rafael Aguiar that’s actually something Liam entirely made up, as of now, there is no single piece of evidence to even suggest his aura was boosted in any way, he merely gained the new ability to form bungee gum more freely.
I'm sorry, but Neferpitou would destroy Hisoka's bubble gum bussy with one finger. They took adult Gon's arm AFTER dying lmao. Just their sheer base stats, without nen, were too high for Netero to damage them with a surprise attack. To be fair, idk how much stronger this new Hisoka is, but, as far as I know bungee gum isn't actually capable of directly harming anyone. Pitou seemed *way* faster, stronger and tankier than every other character in the series aside from Meruem. I do think he would have the most fun against Pitou, though
@@LordDTwigo that doesn't explain how pitou was still able to take his arm despite having godspeed killua pushing him away. At the very least, pitou's speed is comparable to killua on godspeed.
@@LordDTwigo It wasn't stated at all. Gon didn't know Pitou would come back to life. He was caught off guard and Killua saved him before Pitou got to him. Gon did say that he can now be like kite but that was after he lost his arm unexpectly.
in terms of normal fight, i dont think anyone could defeat RG except Netero.. 2 of them were defeated by poison which cost Netero's life.. Gon was able to defeat Pitou because he has personal issue which almost cost his life as well.. if only Kite still alive, i dont really think Gon could find a way to kill Pitou.. so same applies to Hisoka.. if it is just general fight, i dont even think Hisoka will be able to defeat them
I think the reason why a lot of us think Pitou would most easily win is that they are not only the fastest and has Terpsichora (sp?) but also, they appear to be the smartest and most perceptive of the royal guard as well. I have a hard time seeing Hisoka landing a blow on her. And even then, if he did, and she died, I think he would have be able to handle/expect post-mortem-nen Terpsicjrfkjsfnhkhjg, and I don't think he could. I think his best odds of a tie are on her, but the lowest chance of victory.
Hisoka has 0 chance of beating any of them, they are monsters up to +700.000 of aura written specifically to be broken and practically unbeatable for the narrative and themes the arc was going to have. No one other than adult Gon and Netero beating thousands of times Meruem for like half an hour+zero hand were able to land a scratch on them, their attack, defense and speed is completely off the charts.
Lmao pitou is gon and netero food she gets no diffed during the raid. Hisoka scales past almost everyone that isn't an ant now he scales to chrollo pre death in fact he is stronger than chrollo since he got help and still barely won. Chrollo who scales to zeno and old netero is pre death hisoka's equal. Pre death hisoka is scared of the spiders enough to try and trick them to fight chrollo. Post death hisoka is literally hunting the entire troupe he is so much stronger than pre death. If pre death scales to someone that low diffs pitou and post death is so much stronger that he is unrecognisably more powerful than pre death explain how in an way shape or form a weaker and more stupid opponent combat wise in all of the royal guard stand a chance. Youpi probably wins because his regen is just ridiculous and we haven't seen anything from hisoka to counter it but pouf and pitou get OBLITERATED by post death hisoka. Another calc Spiders no dif every ant that's not a royal guard to the point it's a joke for them. And hisoka low diffs spiders. Gon and Kilua are consistently shown to be at a level where they can fight the ants with Kilua speed blitzing pouf and youpi and Gon pre transformation not being speed blitzed by pitou or pouf even with his back to pouf. Transformed Gon is stated pre rose meruem levels of power and of course no difs pitou. Thus Gon and meruem are tier 1 netero who is high diffed by meruem and thus Gon is tier 2 and anyone that scales to him (Zeno Silva Chrollo HISOKA) is above tier 3 which are the royal guard who get low diffed consistently by tier 1 characters. Hisoka consistently scales above the ant arc. Not only through how the characters act around him but through feats of characters he scales to that interact with the royal guard.
I haven't watched the video yet but im going to assume no. Hisoka's combination of rubber and gum just doesn't have the PohWaaa to take out one of the guards. I am willing to be convinced otherwise but I don't see how his skill set takes down Pitou, or Youpi. We never saw Pouf go hand to hand but given the enormity of his aura reserves and over all intellect compared to the other two I think Pouf still comes out on top.
Hisoka doesn't have regeneration. He made limbs of bungee gum AFTER the wounds were treated. Machi says how she fixed him up despite him being dead. Even if you assume he can live and go on without limbs, any blow to the torso or head is letal.
@@ARick_499 I am talking about the manga. Machi explains how she fixed his body as a sign of respect, despite not exactly being friends with Hisoka. Only after that he made limbs out of Bungee Gum to replace the ones he lost. That isn't regeneration, it's just prosthetic legs and arms. He still needs "proper" treatment.
@@ggwp638BC u still stuck in the old episode... He's talking about latest chapters where hisoka has unlocked the healing /regenerating ability.. What u are saying is of the old chapters!
A fun hypothetical I like to think about is if Netero managed to recruit the entire Zoldyck family, all of the Zodiacs, and Beyond (maybe even Hisoka, Bisky, Razor etc.), how well would they fare against the Royal Guards and Meruem. The matchups could be something like this: - Extermination squad vs Pitou (pretty set in stone b/c Gon would want to fight Pitou) - Zoldyck Family (or Zodiacs) vs Youpi - Zodiacs (or Zoldyck family) vs Pouf - Netero, Beyond, Maha, Ging, Pariston vs Meruem Netero gets the best from the Zoldycks and Zodiacs. Pariston is potentially very powerful and I feel like him and Ging could make for some big brain attack strategies. If he’s not strong at all then swap him for Botobai. Will these teams be enough to deal with the Royal guard? How many will die? If a team manages to defeat their respective Royal guard then they will join the other Royal guard fights. If all royal guards are wiped out then they will join the battle against Meruem. I wonder how many would make it to that point and if their abilities could be of any use. Let me know what you guys think.
@@celsiusnebula I didn’t include the Phantom Troupe, because story-wise, I don’t see how they could’ve hired or convinced the troupe to take place in a battle that might lead to all of their deaths. But screw it, let’s just toss them in there while we’re at it. I feel like Knov wouldn’t play a very active role in defeating Pitou because of his trauma. Morel’s smoky jail is super useful, I agree.
@@EmbraceTheInevitableI don't think anybody (except Netero and/or Beyond) has the raw strength to kill any Royal Guard, much less Meruem himself, so they'd need very specific abilities that ignore durability. Basically, only Illumi, Shalnark, Chrollo (Fun Fun Cloth), Phinks, Kurapika (Judgement Chain), and Knov (unlikely due to trauma). The plan would likely revolve around trapping the Royal Guard and Meruem long enough for them to hit. Hisoka, Mizaistom, and Morel should be good at that. And of course any Zodiacs that may have very good Hatsu.
really? hahah he beat him in his own game, it took him few minutes to understand the dodgeball and turn the table on Razor who is a master on that. so on 1 v 1 do you think he can beat hisoka ?
@@depressedasfook2893 Hisoka > Gon and Killua especially Greed Island arc by even more leagues. They made great progress thanks to Palm coming in clutch and calling Bisky to train them intensely. And then during the plan itself they were making progress, during which Killua developed Godspeed. Also is there proof that Hisoka is SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful now in the manga after death? The only impression I got was that the post-mortem nen allowed him to survive death only shortly after his heart stopped beating due to suffocation. Now, the only difference that I think we as an audience have seen is that Hisoka is simply a lot more deadly and bloodlusted, not really "messing around" anymore. It's just kill spiders on sight; that's a big difference from his prior mental state so he will appear far more intimidating but idk if it's been stated or shown to be a real boost in raw ability to just restart your heart with nen skill. I feel like you need to still be dead for post-mortem nen to be, well, post-mortem
If you stuck to the lore and scaling then that's exactly when hisoka gets a chance because of post mortal nen. Hisoka should have any problem Defeating pitou. Read the Manga my dude.
@@LordDTwigo I have read the Manga my guy. where in the manga have you seen him fight anyone besides shalnark and kortopi after he revived himself. There’s literally no proof how much of a power upgrade he got. The royal guards can take attacks from mureum and netero which I don’t think hisoka could survive from. Let’s not kid ourselves
I don't think Hisoka could beat any of the guards. Indeed he could land a hit on Pitou's vital, but Pitou's neck would be way more durable than Gotoh. Also if Hisoka tries a sneak attack Pitou could use her En to locate him. As for Pouf people think he's weak because Killua managed to land a hit. However people forget that Kilua managed to land a hit on clone that was composed of 5% of Pouf's real body. Also Pouf's ability to split into nano-sized versions of himself is OP as hell. He can literally fly into someone's lungs and suffocate him from the inside. There is literally no human in Hxh up until this point that Pouf could not kill/assassinate.
Does raise the opposite point though. Couldn't Hisoka then use Bungee Gum to completely encase a person's head and kill them that way? Or in Pouf's case, use Bungee Gum to completely trap all of his clones?
@@rikusawada6113 The same strategy was used by the smoke guy and pouf still escaped trought smoke particles. When you're that small in theory you could go through solid objects , so i don't see bungee gum being any way more effective than smoke prison.
@@firefoxmd420 Netero probably would win against a royal guard . We have no info about beyond netero. Alluka is not suited for combat, if illumi could kill Alluka/Nanika so could the royal guards. Full charged Killua lasted for aprox 10 sec against Yubi and then he was draned.
@@atonlort5666 yea but Alluka is theorized to have infinite power depending on the wish, and if killua just had a little more time to do endurance training 😩 would’ve been epic, and about beyond, his name is literally BEYOND netero. In the manga there is only 2 people that have travelled to the dark continent and survived. beyond is one of them. I think it’s safe to assume beyond is op asf Edit: Only 2 people still alive* that have traveled to the dark continent.
The BungeeGum is one of the most versatile nen abilities in the Hunter universe, plus Hisoka’s strategy often includes using the enemy’s abilities against them not just to mock them, but also to set up feints and counters. I think he might have trouble with first fight because of the regeneration but he could most likely find a strategy for the third
I believe hisoka is one of gings student. He has a task is to find ging. He spoke to one of the zodiac where ging is. The same kite task is to find ging and because of that ging told about gon that is why hisoka is taking care if gon same as kite coz he thinks if he finds gon he will find ging. He knows gon is monster coz he saw already ging ability as a monster too. Same as razor told. It is like they consist of 4 ging as the enhancer hisoka as transmutter and kite as conjurer and razot as emmiter same goes with gons teammate killua, leorio,kurapika. Both similar skills.l and personality
There's just no way for Hisoka to damage Pitou though. That's the thing. He doesn't have the power to hurt any of the Royal Guards, not even Pouf. BTW. In no way is Hisoka more durable than Pitou. Pitou tanked Netero's attack and even more impressive, Meruem's attack that was intended to kill Pitou. Hisoka would straight up die from that. Hell, Pitou post-mortem even managed to take Adult Gon's arm, who is on pre-rose Meruem's level. There's just no path for Hisoka to win.
I agree with everthing, besides the arm part. Gon let her take the arm, so its hard to say if she would be normally capable of that. Not to mention she was using her Terpsichora ability.
Its possible pitou isnt as durable as we think. I cant explain the lack of damage from Meruems attack but a 1 armed ambushed kite actually did noticeable bodily harm to pitou before dying! If we assume kite and hisoka are both similar level then maybe its a fair fight
@@geffz I mean I feel like that was more of a show of Kites capabilites not of Pitous weakness. Pitou took very little damage from Kite, and was most likely toying with him. While its hard to say if Kite or Hisoka has more output, I dont see anyway Hisoka being able to produce enough output to kill Pitou, or do anything serious.
PERFECT ANSWER. BEAUTIFUL. I couldn’t agree more!! The whole time I watched the video I was like “did we watch the same show?” The fact that the royal guards have many times more aura than hisoka means their ten (protective layer of nen) would be far too tough for hisoka to damage.
Its kind of hard to regenerate things with bungee gum when the things are your head. Pitou just needs to decapitate Hisoka in order to win. I understand your point, but I think your are overestimating Hisoka's regenerative capabilities. I do like the point with Pouf. Theoretically, Hisoka could win by capturing Pouf when he's smol though.
No, it's as simple as that, even Netero didn't try fighting Pitou when he wasn't at full strength. Maybe Hisoka could have beaten Kite, barely, depending on his draws. Youpi gets stronger over time and better adapted to his opponent, while Hisoka likes to draw out fight and play with his. That's a dead no. Shaiapouf could just run away at any time and he's a smart trickster too, neither would win. Pitou is quite strong from the get go and her healing + post mortem ability make her very dangerous. Don't cut her durability short either, she took a hit and the King with no serious injury, it's way beyond any human. And she knows best how to "break" human bodies too, because of her extensive study of them. She sees Hisoka recover an arm once and she goes for vitals like the head/heart.
When the king hit her he hit her with the same strength he uses to kill fragile humans and low tier ants with no nen. it’s not like he used all of his power.
@@Fallenangel_85 I know but I’m saying that meruem hit her with the same strength he uses for a regular human and could definitely have killed her if he went full force
Actually Pitou might be the worst match up for Hisoka. One, her abilities are NOT useless --- or at least not one of them, which is Terpsichora. First off, we never really saw Terpsichora extensively, but considering its ability to "overcome limits", and the fact that a Terpsichora Pitou was relative to Godspeed Killua (when she cut Gon's arm off)... it's safe to say she can absolutely blitz. Second, Pitou is deadlier offensively than the other two, mostly because she is faster. We saw the other characters, slower than Hisoka, literally just run around Youpi. Hisoka is never getting hit by Youpi. While Pouf's abilities are not meant for offense. But Pitou? She just swipes your head off. One attack, that's all it takes, and good luck dodging it. Third, Pitou's en is the widest of the three, meaning there is literally no escaping her, while Hisoka can escape the other two.
Good points. To be fair tho we also have to take into account that the Terpsichora that took Gon’s arm off was stronger due to post death nen so it was most likely faster than it usually is. Without that boost I would say Killua is still faster by a fair amount. She still does blitz Hisoka regardless tho😂I agree with all your other points👍
Hisoka does not actually have regeneration power or healing though. He can only put texture on the wound to make it appear to be healed, and also attach his still unusable limp with gum. Any damage you cause to him actually stay under that illusion.
Manga Hisoka wound up dying against Chrollo but restarted his heart with a last-second gamble of post-mortem nen to restart his heart (using the elsasticity of Bungee Gum to forcibly pump blood through his system) Like most post-mortem nen, the ability grew stronger. His Bungee Gum became much more malleable in consistency and responsive in function, allowing him to create prosthetic limbs made out of it. In combination with texture surprise, he uses the conjured nature to coat the nen prosthetic with skin and visible appear to be normal.
The win condition with Pouf would be squashing his primary body when using Beelzebub (Pouf even said Morel missed a chance to win if he had kept Smokey Jail and squashed his main body which can only get so small, unlike the clones).
This is the only way but finding his real body is impossible lmao, there are billions of clones, and he can just hide his main body high in the sky. And Shaiapouf’s clone are immune to physical attack
@@depressedasfook2893 Yes Netero was trying to move her far away but to say that means he wasn't trying is absolutely ridiculous, he has no reason to not hit Pitou full power, especially if he wants to get Pitou as far away as possible. If anything he KNEW one attack wouldn't do much damage because he knows Pitou has a ridiculous amount of aura, more than him even, that doesn't mean he wasn't trying if anything it means the opposite
@CaptainAwesomesworld That literally makes no sense, he wouldn't use the Zero hand because that takes away his life energy. That doesn't change the fact he hit Pitou seriously
@CaptainAwesomesworld He has literally NO reason to hold back on a slap against Pitou, in fact it contradicts the idea of him wanting to get Pitou as far away as possible
Pitou survived a killing blow from the Mereum. This is the same Meruem who Netero could not fight h2h because if he did he would of just got ripped apart. Hisoka has nothing in his arsenal that could hurt Pitou. And I am confused about all of this super powerful post death Hisoka talk. What has he really done that suggests he has had a amazing power up?
Post mortem nen makes the users aura orders of magnitude more powerful in almost every way. It's one of the first intricacies you learn about in the series. Hisoka used it to revive himself from death and has amplified the effects of bungee gum. This applies to basic aura usage as well. Hisoka was able to kill two members of the troupe following his revival, despite the fact that they didn't have their abilities they're also accomplished fighters in their own rights which mastery over all the basics. That being said they were both literally killed in a single strike.
@@NewSirenSongPost Mortem Nen is Nen during death, Hisoka is alive, so therefore he doesn't have that Nen anymore. And secondly, you need Nen to fight a Master Nen user, so Hisoka killing Nenless spiders is notna flex/feat for him.
Forget royal guards. Lets talk about Zazan( the wannabe chimera ant queen) if not for Feitan’s insane agility and his BUSTED Rising sun hatsu, is there any human that can actually defeat her?
Yes, anyone from the main cast excluding the obvious non fighters like leorio. Almost anyone who was involved in the invasion could lmao. You guys wank spiders too much. His rising sun isn't busted it's required activation DAMAGE onto yourself is dogshit lol.
@@55thstreet66 rising sun is busted. Zazan is stronger than Killian and gon at the time. Possibly not Killian because of God speed but everyone weaker than Killua is below zazan.
Netero > Uvogin > Hisoka in Attack Power. Netero cannot scratch a single royal guard without hitting them thousands of times like he did to Meruem, all the royal guards have greater nen and by extension stamina than Hisoka. Hisoka has no hax he can use to bypass durability. Every royal guard has the AP to cleave Hisoka in two with a single strike. Hisoka gets negged, negative difficulty. This isn’t a debate.
Like actually bro, not even a fair fight. Pitou Speed Blizes and one shots. Yupi one shots, and Pouf has way more aura so even if it comes to a battle of endurance he just wins
not really hisoka scales speed wise to pitue intelligence wise to pouf and healing wise to not quite the same level but better than anyone else In manga I mean he scales to chrollo with detailed knowledge of him and prep time and chrollo scales to 2 of the zoldic family 1 of which is in manga placed as a foil to the chairmen and this is all pre his Manga buff not trying to wank him but he definitely scales to an extent the argument is not silly
@@depressedasfook2893 he does not scale speed wise to pitou whatsoever, kite could barely react to an attack from 2km away. The guards’ sheer stats are way too high for hisoka.
Kite stated that pitou is “monster” even by his own standards. Killua also stated “that even morel, knov, and netero” would not be able to defeat pitou and i doubt killua has any reason to lie about that. Thirdly, colt also strengthened the argument of how the 3 royal guards are on a different scale to someone like the late netero. And colt didn’t even budged whe he saw netero’s aura upclose and personal. So in my humble opinion, even if hisoka was able to miraculously kill pitou “post mortem” pitou would be revived even stronger after death to put the nail in the coffin. I don’t like how you came up with that idea where pitou could lose to someone like hisoka its like you’re saying kite is weaker than hisoka
@@Lemjanmusic A good thing to remember is that Pitou took that hit from Netero (which he stated he had the intent to kill) with no damage similar to Meruem. Pitou even took a similar hit from Meruem (that same hit would one shot 99.99% of every character in the story) where he tried to kill her. Though, unlike Meruem, Pitou is catlike and likes to 'play with her food' and is therefore a lot less tactical or even intelligent. I could see Netero stalemating Pitou instead of losing the attrition battle like he did with Meruem. The Colt point still stands, Pitou and Netero negate each other, but Netero would still be dog walked by the Royal Guard. Honestly, imagine for one second the Royal Guard attacking together. Killua was right as well, the aura difference was overwhelming. His experience would only get him past a 1v1, the Royal Guard consecutively or even in tandem is no dif. Killua isnt stupid or inexperienced, and Colt gave an objective answer.
Kite was blitzed by a day old Pitou. I think the real issue is that people are missing the gap between Netero and peak Gon. Netero tried to kill Pitou with that slap and it did no damage. Gon with a simple kick left Pitou staggered and bleeding. His Rock sent Pitou flying a mile away through trees and rocks, and damn near caved her face in. Pitou went from toying with Kite to essentially being 2 shot by Gon. Pitou admitted that Gon could threaten pre-rose Meruem, something that Netero couldnt even dream of. You have to be contending with Meruem to defeat Pitou, and you have to be Netero to not instantly die. Netero is bare minimum the #2 hunter in the world (we have every reason to belive Ging is #1), and could do nothing to Pitou. You have to be a prime Freecss to even threaten the Royal Guard. The same Freecss that can thrive on the Dark Continent. Not saying Netero had no chance against Pitou, he has all the experience and an unbreakable guard, but thats just 1/3rd of the Royal Guard. Respectfully, Hisoka has no chance against Netero, and likely would be toyed with by Pitou similar to Kite.
At the end, any royal guard can defeat Hisoka, only if they use En with a strong aura at the start of the battle, they are so fucking strong with negative aura.
Even with post mortem nen. He gets rolled so hard. No diff. The royal guards are literally newborns and they're stomping and outwitting top hunters like Kite and Morel. Don't overwank that post mortem nen friend.
Hisoka is being protected by the writer. Hisoka wants to fight Netero = Netero Ignored him Hisoka wants to fight Chrollo = Chrollo can't use nen anymore Hisoka wants to fight Ging = Ging is Absent Chimera Ant Arc = Hisoka Absent.
There’s no chance Hisoka beats any royal guard one on one. That’s the whole reason he wasn’t in the arc he would’ve got himself killed because he would’ve been so excited to fight
People who think hisoka would lose to pitou are the people with the cat-boy fetish. They disgust me. Honestly, I can't see hisoka losing to any of the ants one on one. He would figure them out. The only one that could beat him would be the king, and I'm not certain that hisoka wouldn't figure a way out of that.
Before watching: Hisoka would not stand a chance against any of the Royal Guard and him rating himself so highly during the Election arc feels like a retcon of the power scale. After watching: Oh, this is a fanfic version of Hisoka that has strength likely on par with the Meruem (if he can damage Pitou physically) and healing on par with Majin Buu. Okay, fair play, I guess. All said, I wouldn't mind Hisoka being this strong with post-mortem Nen but I think its a reach to assume he's already at this level when the story hasn't confirmed nor even really hinted at this.
The main idea is none of his Nen abilities would fair well against any of the ant guards and his physical strength, speed and durability (which he tends to rely on in his fights) is nothing compared to theirs. It's literally a no-win situation for him.
I rate you, but I think you've gravely underestimated Pitou a number of times now. I actually think Pitou would be the worst matchup for Hisoka, and that he in particular could do much more damage to Pouf, and at the very least tie to him.
I feel sorry for Hisoka not being around for the Ant arch. he would have known bliss that is beyond anything he will ever experience anywhere else.
Do you not know where Hisoka is currently travelling to in the manga?
It would be nice to see hisoka and the phantom troupe in the ant arc, they would get an actual reality check (against the royal guard obv)
Agreed when reading I also kept hoping Hisoka would’ve joined, but also figured he would die doing so if he didn’t team up. Hisoka without prep losses to every single RG member with relative ease if they’re serious and swift, but with prep he would have been able to hang with most of them 1v1.
@@waffles5433 not true, hisokas post death nen wouldve still made that fight inevitable
No need for hisoka to be there, also, it doesn’t make any sense at all, since he was hunting chrollo to (humiliate him) fight
There has to be a Nen condition that Hisoka placed on himself where he gets stronger when he teaches or reminds his opponent that his Bungee Gum has both the properties of rubber and gum.
Knowing Hisoka that might ACTUALLY be the case
Fax
I think it’s just his ego. He wants to know that despite his opponent knowing the full extent of his abilities, there was nothing they could have possibly done to win.
He doesn’t want to beat someone and think he won because they were trying to guess his ability, he wants to crush them.
LMAO
No it’s cause he set a condition like in the main comment
Obviously current Hisoka would win since all current three royal gaurds are dead
You are brilliant
I like the way you think :D
Indeed....
Plus his post Nen mortem helps
If he cannot lose vs them, then he cannot win. Binary oppositions bruh
I know Youpi falls back heavily on instinct, but he wasn't incapable of strategy. He even decided to feign one of his rage explosions to trick his opponents. Because Youpi never considered stuff like that before and it came to him out of nowhere in the middle of battle as a stroke of brilliance, I think Youpi might have been a strategic genius that was just never applied until that night.
Not only that but after his transformation he became very level headed and as the narrator said: he stopped seeing things in simple manner. For example, he deduced that there was someone who can become invisible and that it wasn't teleportation. I think people underestimate Youpi's intelligence. He evolved mentally extremely fast during such a short fight.
Yeah all the ants are pretty much genius level. Some just more naturally, and others have to actually put some effort but it’s very minimal. Youpi wasn’t dumb, he just never saw the need to actually think.
Youpi's Path Is really interesting
He has the greatest potential of the 3. Could of been god tier in a year I think
Is he capable of some strategy? yes
But strategic genius? Absolutely not. Especially not like characters like hisoka or chrollo.
Alright, lets be honest, they would've never expected that bungee gum has the properties of rubber and gum.
Is Ging underrated? I mean, look at it from the Angle of Powerscaling and he looks pretty good seing how he strongly up-scales from Gon and Killua at their (non-suicide-bomb) Best.. Why would Ging habve much less Talent than his Son and his Son's Same-Amount-of-Talent Friend?
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Imagine how passionate the fight between Hisoka and Pouf would be. Pouf being the Drama queen that he is would begin to cry and scream contemplating how his defeat would bring shame to the King. And Hisoka being the weird bdsm Clown guy that he is would be having a massive Schwing going on. He would start moaning midbattle from how powerful Pouf is. And how good the thrill of combat is making him feel.
I hate pouf so much when he died from the poison that was not enogh for him
I loved pouf!! The guard with a personality 🤣🤣 the only guard with ideals for the king and that led to his demise
It would be an absolute sausage party!
This one battle would be more sus than the whole of the JoJo series
Hahaha that would be hysterical
I think Hisoka wasn't involved in the Chimera Ant arc because the writer knew he couldn't keep Hisoka alive with the type of personality he has. Hisoka would have gotten himself killed in order to enjoy the fight 😂
Or killed off Royal Guard members...
@@UnexpectedWonder Wow you really overestimate hisoka
@@ApatheticEntity Based upon what Evidence? Y'all are overestimating the Royal Guard actually.
@@UnexpectedWonder Based on feats and character statements of the guards and hisoka while reading the manga and watching the anime several times
Exactly. Hisoka wasn't in the Chimera Ant arc because it'd be a waste of his character to get such a quick "happy ending" and blow his load too early.
Okay but none of the royal guard know that bungee gum has both properties of rubber and gum so he's got that going for him.
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Hisoka will definitely tell the opponents,
Gumu gomu no..
Fuck... your right... I didnt think about that
if they're smart they might pick up on that fact after the 14th time he reminds them
Razor broke Hisoka’s fingers when he blocked his spike without using gyo. Imagine Hisoka trying to block Pitou without using gyo loll. He would get one shot no question. Hisoka is my fav character in this series but come on guys this isn’t even a fair fight. The royal guards are on another level when it comes to physical abilities and aura capacity.
what does gyo has to do with it? the ball was not made of nen
@@rafazardly gyo is when they concentrate their aura in one spot to increase defense. So if they don’t use that they can’t block super strong attacks. Gons fist is not made of nen but very few can block his rock without using gyo.
@@mk_-8794 i understood. technically i think biscuit called it ko when applied to other body parts than the eye but this is really irrelevant since I understood what you were talking about. reading gyo i could only think about eye aura use and some kind of invincible technic (by the way hisoka would clearly have a first hit advantage seeing he can disguise his aura better than the mastodon pitou is)
@@rafazardly Ko is when you focus 100% of your aura into a single spot and it’s usually for offensive attacking abilities. Kinda like when Feitan put all his aura into his sword when fighting zazan the ant chick. I agree Hisoka would get first hit but idk how much that would help tbh.
You are wrong. Royal guards are rank B. In addition, Ability is a thing, aura is another. Hisoka would win no doubt.
Feel like some people are underrating Pitou quite a lot here. She got quite a lot stronger after that Kite thing. And beating someone as strong as Kite with low difficulty after pretty much just being born and not even having nen abilitys is insane. Also the jump she did later on to reach Meruem and Komugi was twice as strong as the one she did before at Kite. So Hisoka being able to manage Pitous speed is really questionable. Also Pitou tanking Jajanken from Adult Gon and not just still having her head but also still being alive after that is fucking impressive. So in terms of durability there is a gigantic gap aswell. Royal Guards are just completly overpowered monsters.
Exactly I don’t understand how even some of the biggest hxh fans think that hisoka could ever hope to defeat any of the royal guard
I don't think Pitou tanked that Janken lol. Pitou was rendered immobile and had her face caved in. He didn't completely destroy her body but tha doesn't mean se tanked it
@@SolidSnake240 She still had the ability to think and use her abilities and chopped off gons arm so to say that she didn’t tank it especially when she got hit several more times is just wrong
@@Promethazin3 that was after death nen ability as which Gon kind of allowed it to happen. (not sure how death is considered "tanking")
Also, Gon just pummeled her even after she was dead. Just to make sure she was dead "Teachinig of Kite". He wasn't punching her continuously because she was alive....
Pitou did not “tank” anything from adult gon lol she was conscious, but she could do literally nothing afterward, having to turn her own body into a puppet.
One thing that you forgot about: Pitou managed to take Meruem's hit like a champ when she/he suggested that the king should use gyo to find rare humans. Meruem said it himself: "Pitou, you are quite the strong; I was trying to kill you." It takes a massive amount of power for Hisoka to deal enough damage to Pitou for her/him to weaken down. I don't think Hisoka has the ability to achieve such power which is why I think Pitou will win against Hisoka.
Meruem didn't use all of his power in his hit he just tried to kill her
That's Pitou's durability contributing to his strength but not strength itself. Hisoka doesn't have to be able to take a hit from Meruem in order to beat someone else
i believe it was a hit with the same force he killed "normal humans", so hisoka would be able to survive it as well. I personally dont think even pouf can take a full blow of meruem who took off limbs from netero.
@@kutss1143 I know, but what I was trying to say is that Pitou is able to take a solid hit from Meruem meaning that Hisoka has to try hitting Pitou extremely hard to damage her/him.
@@nihalsingh6327 Hisoka may have the ability to survive the hit, but it would be a critical hit to Hisoka. What I'm trying to say is that Hisoka has to try and hit Pitou with enough strength to deal enough damage to Pitou and I have no idea on how he could achieve such power.
Personally Hisoka vs Pitou would have been one heck of a fight, two people with crazy modes and ability to kill even after death
I don't get Hisoka's obsession with Gon. Gon's adult transformation isn't even close to the power Gon would have if he got to that point naturally. Hisoka wouldn't stand a chance lol
@@K4inan I always thought that Hisoka's definition of "ripe" is just when the character is strong enough to challenge him and not when they reach their peak potential... Gon's max potential would probably kill Hisoka with a backhand 😂
I think Pitou would be the easiest fight.
She wouldn't handle Hisokas trickery.
Strongly believe Pouf is Hisokas biggest threat becuase he has the potential to understand Hisoka nen.
Pitou would lose to Hisoka like Cheetuh lost to Morel.
Not really. Pitou would have Hisoka’s head in her hand at the end of the fight.
@@eyebrawler6567 not really,hisoka is fast as fuck and he can use his bungee gum ho become even faster .His aura quantity rose so high so he can set traps using bungee gum ,create an opening to Land a fatal blow . Hisoka's main power comes from the fact that his bungee gum is very versatile and it was stated many times ,and his intelligence.
"Thousands of dudes in thousands of room" like Liam isnt aware that we are all in the same room waiting for content
Its crowded in here
Wouldn't be quite so bad, but we've only got one 20 inch screen to share.
@@MrDj232 no one fart I swear to god
Liam: "I'm not interested in the opinion of one man in one room."
Also Liam: "Thousands of people disagree with me, but I'm going with my own opinion anyway."
i mean he’s correct tho, ppl just hype the royal guard up bc their raw strength but throughout this entire show the creator has been saying ….. *THATS NOT ENOUGH* all of morels fights are the best example of that, no matter what advantage you have over someone, it’s about skill & intelligence. something that 2/3 royal gaurds lacks
@@tyshawnevans475 Is anybody surprised tho? Basically all anime matchup arguments devolve into the loudest people demanding it be viewed entirely as a slugfest. "Big number good"
@@tyshawnevans475 Errr, Pouf and Pitou are perfectly capable of being intelligent in battle. Not to mention, combined with their capacity for intellect, they're *extremely* strong and managed to last through the strategies of multiple Hunters trying to take them down (Youpi, specifically).
The fight is WAY too one-sided to be fair.
I'd say that of the three royal guards Youpi is the strongest one in a combat scenario. He's practically hardwired for fighting and also his abilities are entirely made for doing so. His best way of dealing with whatever poses a threat to the king is killing it, so of course he is the best fighter of the three.
You're putting a lot of emphasis on Hisoka's ability to bungee repair himself, but can he do this easily in the middle of a fight? Can he make himself a new heart? A new brain? The conditions for his alleged immortality are fairly specific, and the Guard can certainly interfere with all of them. I agree he stands the best chance against Pitou, but I also don't think Pitou would humor him very long and would pretty quickly take his head or heart in the process.
I agree, even with his supposed power amp, I find it hard to believe he can fight a royal guard member solo. Much less beat them. Besides that, I’m a big fan of your work, Plague! Your Ready Room Wrastling animation got me into Star Trek. So thank you for that and every other animation and trifusion video. Btw, I miss your Internet IRC series. It was very funny!
Yeah and for the Pitou speed statement that is a horrible example in my opinion Pitou was like miles away and still managed to be fast enough to steal Kites arm even if he was protecting Gon&Killua it doesn’t matter Pitou was was that far away but still managed to snatch it now imagine the speed up close I doubt the new born non nen user Pitou who bodied Kite with just some paper cuts would get killed by Hisoka but I guess you could argue wwe haven’t seen Hisoka full strength in post mortem but doubt it would be significant enough to kill the monster of a character Pitou was
Hisoka needs to get HUGE
Hisoka will use wit and experience as pitou is a new born with no combat experiences though she can use en to sense him. All he has to do is piss her off and boom mindgames
yeah but rubber and gum...
I think the reason why pitou was picked so much is because of portrayal of his/her strength, physically a monster who even netero would try to avoid wasting aura to take down
@Tevin Aponsu I don't really comment alot in this channel tbh🤣
Pitou is male surprisingly
@@kaykayabuel230 how is that surprising
@@chipstastesupergood3788 have you ever watched hunter x hunter pitou looks so much like a female
@@CosmoAudition I'm not too up to date with pronouns but I use "their" in situations where there is more than one person so I prefer to use him/her
Hisoka's regen only really applies to his limbs. If any of his organs get decimated he dies. Sure he made his heart beat again, but what if he had no heart to repair in the first place
Construct a new rubbery heart, and think of contracting and expanding 24/7
@@drshspkt2012 like a Darth Sion - surviving off nen - situation
@@OffBrandCourier Darth Sion - Too angry to die.
Darth Hisoka - Too horny to die.
What you said makes no sense. He can repair his limbs he can repair his organs. If his aura can do his heart function then why not just have a heart made of aura? Imagine he abuses his power too much and becomes raw aura and thus die in the process, that be crazy. Could be a restriction so he doesn’t spam it.
Pouf could break into near cellular level (“trillions of particles”) and reconstruct upon exposure/inhalation inside Hisoka’s trachea, lungs (causing suffocation and death), eyes (causing blinding), ears (hearing impairment), etc. I don’t think bungee gum would help there. Hisoka could die an instant death, trying to fight an opponent he can’t see; one who actually enjoys skirmishes and guerrilla warfare.
What’s more: hypnotic wing scales.
And his cocoon and chrysalis abilities could be used to recover/delude, exactly as he did with Morel.
Finally, Pouf is incredibly shrewd (at least on a similar level to Hisoka). Perfect foil to Pitou’s immeasurable raw strength and Youpi’s malleability and immense aura. Lest we forget, Pouf is supposed to be the 2nd strongest guard (it’s been confirmed that their order of “strength” follows their order of birth; rather counter-intuitive, but true).
The catch would be if Hisoka were to figure out where Pouf’s main body/center was hiding and destroy it (and smthg tells me he’d figure out the presence of a control center incredibly quickly).
It’s a tight match, but I personally think Pouf could end up easily coming on top (provided he does smthg to guard that control center).
The primary reason Killua had an advantage over Pouf is because the latter was tight on time. Had he gotten a chance to formulate a strategy, the outcome would’ve been significantly different.
Tout à fait d’accord
No, at that point Pouf would one shot everyone
@@AizakkuZ yea even meruem lol
I think the king would annihilate the tiny poufs in his body with the sheer density of his nen, not to mention the boost it would get from his anger at the insolence of pouf trying to kill the king@@Leon-oy3bp
About Pitou, first of all Kite was able to react to Pitou when she was jumping to them from over 500 meters, not in a close combat, which is a completely different thing. Also damaging Pitou is pretty much impossible for Hisoka. Pitou took a direct Hit from Netero's budda statue and took ZERO damage, and only Gon with inslae lvl of Nen and his "Rock" could actually damage her, because Gon's first strong kick with crazy Ken in gorwn state did no damage to her as well, so Hisoka literally has no move that can damage the royal guard. If Pitou is not able to outspeed Hisoka and Cut his head off using her speed, at best this becomes a battle of atrition, where Pitou obviously wins.
Netero's ability doesn't seem like that of an enhancer. That statue thing he creates is either a conjured or emitter ability. So the slap he used on Pitou looked like emitter ability to me, like gon's paper
Hisoka could kill her using his gum and the strength from Pitou like gum on the back of the head and a stone with nen on it when she jumps like crazy she would bang something on the back of her Head with her own speed and strength.
He could pin her down too but im on your side hisoka would die before he could use a plan she would kill him fast fast.
@@NeverStartTradingOptions Pitou would never die from a stone hitting her head with a huge speed, she is way too durable for that, but yeah, at least we agree that She's too fast and too strong for Hisoka to do something and pull up a trick.
@Luke Safran the ants don't really have sex, so Pitou will remain a female in my book
@Luke Safran Pitou in the Japanese is called "aitsu", which is a neutral pronoun that doesn't exist in English, like with Crona from Soul Eater.
So going with the Japanese, Pitou's gender is completely ambiguous, but Viz just chose to give Pitou male pronouns
“Hisoka is more durable than Pitou”
Are you really gonna say that Hisoka can tank an attack by Netero?
Edit: Like Netero took 1 look at Pitou and said “I ain’t fucking with that bro”
I don't think Hisoka would stand a chance against Netero either, especially the Chairman's mastery of Nen and ridiculous physical attributes. I think Hisoka will be interested to fight Pitou since he has a fetish for strong opponents, beat Pitou? Depends I guess though the video made sense but I think that Pitou can defeat Hisoka, would be a good match but a quick one in my opinion.
@@lg77718 Hard to say.
Netero is faster than the speed of sound.
But Gotoh could fire coins as fast as bullets and Hisoka was both able to dodge, catch, and counter attack those same coins by using his Bungee Gum.l, Which has the properties of both rubber and gum, to propel himself.
Yea, Netero has way more aura.
But like Knov and Morel said. Aura isnt everything.
And like Biscuit said, on a good day, a D can beat an A having a bad day. Dont always assume they're at their best.
The Edit is something that actually irked me in my recent rewatch. Later on Netero casually swats Pitou away. So the entire latter Part of the Arc would´ve been gone if he didnt chicken out of the fight with Pitou.
Hisoka caught Gotoh's coins by pre dodging
@@LanToaster Its not that he just casually swatted him
He did no damage to Pitou at all. Its just Pitou made a bad move by attacking from the air while not being able to maneuver in the air. Meaning he could be removed from the fight without fighting.
In chess this is the equivalent of moving your pawn forward on 1 turn and the enemy bishop taking your now open queen.
I wouldn’t say that Hisoka can truly regenerate. I wouldn’t even call him durable. He can make good prosthetics. But it’s not like if Pitou cuts his head off he’s gonna make a bungee neck and bungee arteries.
exactly
I would debate that, if the will is strong enough, the nen will endure, I’m not even sure that total obliteration could stop hisoka now, his body is a nen puppet essentially and provided he can rebuild, which he always can with bungee gum, it means he needs to be restrained or sealed in some way, or he will just keep rampaging until his will is exhausted
Believe it or not ik this is years old but he can't revive himself with him bungee gum by replacing his blood with his Nen weird
I think Hisoka is end game. He'll probably be absurdly powerful by series end.
I believe he was taking post anime hisoka, who restarted his own heart. So yeah, he is durable. I think of him like left 4 Dead characters who pop dive pills, he doesn't lose steam while approaching death / 0 hp. So he is deadly till rip.
I think you severely underestimated the kitten's durability... she took a hit from the king and survived only with a bruise, when he was trying to kill.... and she took netero's attack without suffering any harm, only getting knocked back
No he wasn't trying to kill he specifically says his intent was to remove her from the battle and that she would be a tough match up for him
@@depressedasfook2893 Yes, but you saw that attack right? That would have blown every other human to smithereens
@@depressedasfook2893 that how tough they are, he's making light of it and what it will take for hisoka to actually make a fatal blow to pitou
@@depressedasfook2893 you do realize to hit someone far away enough so they don't come back in time, requires a lot of power. Especially considering the "someone" being pitou
Even worse, pitous face tanked multiple clean hits from Gons fist unprotected and it STILL took multiple hits to bust. Not that a clean hit couldn’t cause Pitou to stumble but this is prime form Gon who is already an enhancer
Let’s say Hisoka used his bungee gum, which has the properties of both rubber and gum, to completely immobilize a royal guard. Could he even deliver an attack strong enough to damage or even end one’s life? Doubt it.
But I think you're missing the most important part, which is that is has the properties of both rubber and gum. Auto win.
Well hisoka did one shot gotoh, soo yeah..
you realize all he has to do is cover their mouth and nose and they will die. they need to breath just like anything else
@@TheEggiedEggThatEgged lol at gotoh.
@@TheEggiedEggThatEgged Pitou took a full forced pimp smack from Netero’s 100 type. Gotoh has no such durability.
Short answer: No
Long answer: Hell no
Ehh after the fight with Chrollo I think he can stand his own
@@mrbruv03 chrollo another guy who would get 1 clapped by the same gaurds
@@kingoftheclunge what part of hunter x hunter are you on
@@mrbruv03 I'm up to date, his book doesn't make him invincible he struggled and had to use everything on hisoka, the guards are in another world physically from them, it's no contest
@@kingoftheclunge No don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying they’ll beat the guards, but they can definitely hold their own after their recent buffs. They’re like two of 5-6 characters that can actually somewhat hold their own. Beating them is a whole other thing.
The only reason Pitou couldn't attack Netero was because Netero was insanely fast with his 100 Hand Guanyin Bodhisattva.
Hisoka is not faster than Pitou. Pitou's Terpsichora could easily be used to behead Hisoka before he has time to think.
But it's only my opinion and doesn't matter lol.
Eh the 100 hand is super sonic as stated in manga and the coins hisoka stopped where faster speed wise hisoka is faster than every character with the exception of killua and possibly netero but post mortem hisoka is much faster so speed wise they match I agree with her mortem nen though unless he runs or sees it coming he is dead so the question becomes can revive again or would she even use mortem nen if he clearly isn't a threat to king?
trepischora doesnt boost her speed on levels like godspeed. Also the power she got from trepischora came from her seing gon as a threat to the king and boosting trepischora to new levels. hisoka would still be able to deal with it, i dont believe its so one sided
Have you seen Hisoka move with Bungee gum? *cough* cough* Gotoh *cough.... Now imagine A boosted Hisoka-Bungee-Gum-Postmortem moving.... With Regeneration...
@@nihalsingh6327 sure still loses
he never said hisoka was faster, he just said he could react to it
I just don’t see Hisoka being ABLE to hit pitou hard enough to damage them.
He does not need, Bubblegum can return their hit over themselves.
@@PhuderosoPony since when? It's not a dodgeball man.
@@ashikvikk5338 I think Pony was trying to say that if Hisoka is able to attach his gum onto pitou, he can maybe have her attack herself on a rare occasion.
@@yovvii_moncler that would be a hilarious scene lol. But it's almost impossible for that to happen because of Terpsichora. And Hisoka had not shown to do that before. (not dodgeball example plz. that's bad)
Sir I think ur underestimating bungee gum u clearly don't know that it has the properties of both rubber and gum
Honestly i think Liam is heavily downplaying the speed, power and endurance of the royal guards for the sake of the argument
I mean, if Kite can at least react to Pitou, I think an incredible nen user like Hisoka could as well. In terms of endurance, I think that post-mortem Hisoka is also incredibly durable. I do think he underestimates the raw strength Pouf would possess though.
@@roofied_galahad1675 a Pitou that was born like 3 minutes go
yeah this is just a silly video, anyone with common sense knows any of the royal guards can wash hisoka
@@roofied_galahad1675 I could see a case for Hisoka keeping up with Pitou but that’s without her Hatsu (forgot the spelling) and Youpi pretty much blitzed Knuckle in speed later on.
@@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 Hisoka was able to react to, dodge, and catch coins fired with the speed and power of bullets.
Netero was able to catch Meruem with supersonic speed.
Hisoka keeps up, as much as yall hate to hear it.
This is a ridiculous question to even ask. No. No is the incredibly obvious answer and to even entertain the idea that it could go the other way means that you're way too much of a Hisoka fanboy. He'll be lucky if he can even make one bleed before he dies. The only reason the Chimera arc didn't end with absolutely everyone dying is because of Meleoron and Komugi.
Dude relax lol it’s just interpretation he’s not stating fact.
@@anthonyshlemon3848 hes right tho? the guy who made the video is overrating the hell out of hisoka's bunge gum and straight down playing the royal guards power. hisoka WISH he could make them bleed a drop of blood before getting killed
@@devrizalalderon3174 it’s a hypothetical scenario based on one’s interpretation. It isn’t a big deal.
Collin Herrin it's a hypothetically wrong interpretation of the events. Only Gon won against a single royal guard, the rest, including netero couldn't even break a single bone.
When mereum hit pitou with intention to kill her, she didn't die. While netero got shredded with every attack from mereum that lands. The entire phantom Troup would have a very hard time beating a single royal guard. They are just too durable hurt
@@aesa1990 The fight is up to the writer you don't know what Hisoka has up his sleeve.
7:49 Pitou was an incredible distance away (possibly 2km given her nen range) and Kite still barely had time to react, losing an arm in the process. I think a better indication of him being able to “keep up” would be the amount of damage that was caused to the forest. It seems Kite didn’t get blitzed right off the bat (after losing his arm) and survived long enough for the environmental damage to take place.
9:16 How would Hisoka land a devastating hit? A full power Kite (albeit armless) only put a scratch on Pitou. What does Hisoka have in his arsenal to bypass Pitou’s durability? A supercharged bungee gum punch?
Well we saw that she took considerable damage from being punched through the trees I think hisoka could easily get her to jump at him full force where he would attack bungee gun to here feet and then he just spins and hurls her really fast it would barely hurt but if he was good enough it might work after a while just like how netero was starting to make the king ache after a long time
@@shwitz3614 When she got punched by Adult Gon with jajanken? Yeah she took damage from the punch, definitely not the trees given her durability. She for sure isn’t going to take any significant damage from being slingshot into trees at any speed
1. You saw that crazy jump Pitou did after Netero pushed her away right? 2. How is Hisoka going to damage her? She tanked Neteros blast and a JJK from adault Gon (granted she was knocked out, but her face was still there). Hisoka is no where near strong enough to damage her. There is no way that she would lose
@CaptainAwesomesworld no, you are wrong. She Was just unconcious after the first Hit. The last Hit killed her, when Killua arrives
@CaptainAwesomesworld ok it happened like this: 1. JJK Hit knocked her out. 2-3 JJK Was not shown. 4. JJK Destroyed her head and after that, she came back to attack him
@CaptainAwesomesworld in the manga you will only see 2 JJK. There the first Knocks her out. And the 2nd kills her. Anyway that is a good idea. The Manga and the Episode was awsome
@CaptainAwesomesworld if you think netero would use 0 hand on pitou in any scenario I don’t think you really grasp what it is lol.
@CaptainAwesomesworld it was a weak strike down. People don’t need to use their strongest attack while attempting to kill. Meruem tried to kill Pitou with a swing of his tail. An argument against that would be when he said “I’d like you to go away” (not verbatum). I don’t believe Netero was trying to kill Pitou but him not using zero hand plays no determining factor. If he did use it that would make it clear that he did have intent to kill but the opposite is untrue. Also you have to be super delusional or have no understanding of powerscaling if you think it would be “a good scrap”
The Royal Guards are on a whole other level of power. I doubt Hisoka would win one on one. But still would be a fun fight to watch. Makes me wish he was in the Chimera ant arc.
Yea but top tiers like Ging, Pariston and Beyond probably could beat the Royal Guards. As the Ants are considered a minor threat on the Dark Continent.
@@zigazdovc6175 Yh true, they probably could but with high difficulty though.
@@zigazdovc6175 i think Pariston isn't a fighter. He is definitely strong af. But he isn't ging or beyond level
His is close to ging in brains tho
@@zigazdovc6175 The ants aren’t evolved like the Royal Guards or Meruem on the DC
But don't let this video distract you from the fact that bungee gum posses both properties of rubber and gum.
Buddy it's about time to stop overusing that washed up joke, find other ways to farm yt likes
@@Stick1Master Imagine being mad at a joke on the internet for merely existing past some arbitrary timeframe you determined to be excessive.
Stop policing peoples fun.
@@Xeno455 Yeah i thought so.
really???
I appreciate the analysis you're putting into this, but I feel like there should've been more specific pointers on how Hisoka could make up for the sheer physical difference between him and the Guards. Besides the one regarding Kite, which I feel should be taken with a grain of salt anyway because Gon was clearly the one who took Kite's death the hardest, and in that period of grief he could have very easily made a poor call. That being said, even with that pointer in mind, just because Kite could see Pitou coming when they shot themself straight at the group does not necessarily translate to combat speed.
As for the comment about Hisoka only needing to land fatal blows on them...I don't really understand that idea, because you never really establish what that win condition is. it comes off as though you're really downplaying the physical abilities of the Guard for the sake of argument, which I think is fine, but it should have been made clear beforehand. Because as is, it makes the prospect of Pitou and Pouf being poorly matched against Hisoka feel fundamentally flawed when they can just...punch his head off. I could see Pouf not wanting to do that, but the option is still there.
Hisoka's clever, but I don't think he can compensate for the stark contrast in power between him and the royal guard, even if the discussion of their nonphysical stats leads to some interesting conclusions.
Regardless of who wins, I’d love to watch hisoka fight any of themcause his marshal arts and fighting style coupled with his intelegence is just that god damn good , would be interesting to see how he would personally handle these fights
I just imagine Hisoka sticking all of pouf's mini poufs together.
Pouf.
Yah this is a possibility
maybe in some sort of bungee fly net, sort of like when he caught gotoh's coins
Imagine thinks Pouf is stupid
@@caillasse3147 I mean.. he's not .. smart
@CaptainAwesomesworld What are these arguments lmao ? Pouf is the smartest royal guard, much smarter than people like Chrollo.
He was trapped only because of his breakdown ( Komugi)c but he easily outsmarted Morel afterwards.
And he didn't die from radiation but poison
This is some of the biggest hisoka wank I’ve ever seen 😂
Against youpi there is nothing he can do to damage him. If youpi gets somewhat serious Hisoka stands no chance. The only reason knuckle morel and shoot survived against him is cuz youpi saw them as no more than flys.
He has the best chance against Pouf as pouf has no offensive feats but the sleep scales he let off would be pretty difficult for Hisoka to avoid
Pitou withstood an attack from both Netero and Meruem with almost no damage shown. Yes neither of them were their strongest attacks but Hisoka has no durability feats to even think he could withstand an attack from Netero or Meruem. Hisoka has no attack anywhere near those of Meruem or Netero where as Pitou was able to cut off Kites and adult Gon’s arm with one attack. Netero said himself that Pitou was stronger than him(although probably not true) where as he completely disregarded Hisoka and thought nothing of him. People don’t understand that The royal guard are on a different level from humans that are at the level of Hisoka Chrollo or the zoldycks.
I have to agree. I've never remotely thought that Hisoka had even close to enough physical strength to damage any of the Royal Guard and seeing as that's his primary way of fighting, he stands no chance.
Gon and kite didn't defend with ken. Kite was trying to instruct them to leave and took his eyes off what was coming factions of a second mean everything in the nen world and gon literally just gave his arm up on purpose. By taking a hit from the chairman and meruem are you referring to the pimp slaps she got?
@@realdeal9304 while true that they most likely weren’t defending themselves I doubt Hisoka could perform such a feat on Kite let alone Adult Gon. He has no feats to argue he could do so, what his cards are going to cut off Adult Gon’s arms? As for the hits, I refer to Meruem hitting Pitou with the intention of killing Pitou. Yes it wasn’t his strongest attack but Pitou wasn’t protecting themself with any nen either and it was a hit that had previously killed other chimera ants and humans, it was no little slap at all. Pitou shakes it off as if it was nothing and showed very minimal damage. As for Netero’s attack, Netero intended to hit Pitou so far away that they wouldn’t be able to do anything during the castle invasion, it takes quite the amount of force to send something as large as Pitou flying so far away they have no hope of returning. Not to mention Pitou seemed to have taken almost 0 damage from it, they showed no signs of injury at all. Hisoka was seen taking damage from a fishing rod from early Gon and struggling to deal with Razor’s dodgeballs. Hisoka is outmatched
@@miguelv4345 well it's true but as stated in the series like with bisky if you don't defend with some type of nen your body would be destroyed doesn't matter about your physical prowess. The kings hit was on the penguin guy that didn't know nen btw. It was clearly shown that gon didn't give a f*** and just let it happen and didn't even see pitou as a challenge with his words saying something along the lines "is this really what killed kite" and then continue to blame himself for what happened
@@realdeal9304 Hisoka has no offensive feats to prove he could do as much damage as Pitou did whether someone is defending with nen or not. I’ll give you that Meruem is a bad argument as he wasn’t using his full force. But my arguments about Netero stand as well as Hisoka taking damage from Gon and Razor
I love when people ask this question. Simply because people
Love hisoka and would truly love if he could defeat them lol
ikr just like how ppl think guku can beat boo
Pouf is so underestimated, I think all the royal guards have a scary amount of aura and physical prowess that trumps most fighters in this world. Not saying Hisoka can’t pull it off against any of them but definitely an uphill battle
The thing about Pitou is they never took anything seriously until a fight they couldn't possibly win. I really believe Pitou had much more potential than was ever properly represented. With that being said though, Pouf is absolutely in the same boat.
Pouf would slaughter Hisoka.
I don't think Pitou speed would be manageable for hisoka. Pitou was coming from over a MILE away when she got there in a split-second and chopped off Kites arm, I don't think the average top-tier nen user could with her speed
On top of the fact Kite sensed her and still was struck from over a mile away
Not just speed friend everything. Nen, speed, and strength. Pitou is lvl 100 and hisoka is lvl 20. No diff
Pitou is the most dangerous Royal Guard in physical combat. The speed and strength would be comparable to a tiger vs a human. Youpi was stronger, but in comparison slow. I think the biggest flaw here is that people think any of these guys are somewhat comparable to peak Gon. Netero for example did no damage to Pitou and he had the intent to kill with that strike. Gon is a Freecss, that bloodline can flourish on the Dark Continent. There are only 4 known characters to survive a Dark Continent voyage. Survive as in come back without any major afflictions. Zigg Zoldyck, Isaac Netero, Linn Horsdoeuvre, and Beyond Netero. Essentially, if you arent Zoldyck/Netero level, the Royal Guard are instant death. The only feasible way to defeat the ants is to be peak Freecss level.
I don't think hisoka's body parts are entirely replaceable, they're just being substituted and I don't think they're even all that useful to hisoka... might even be limiting the amount of nen he has for fighting due to constantly using it as substitute body parts. Sure he can make it look like he hasn't taken significant damage but hisoka is is really bad shape after his fight with chrollo. Honestly love these kinds of discussions though!
He uses them to fight right after making them, including increasing his speed with the whole rubber limb propulsion shenanigans. Hisoka got an insane buff after Chrollo.
They are useful but doubtful he can just continuously regenerate. 1 more arm is a lot more aura not used for fighting.
@@XiaosuRCT even with the rubber limb propulsion and the nen buff after death I don't think he's better off than him coming up with pacts and new techniques (he could've just covered his body in rubber or made rubber soles for his shoes and that would've given him a similar buff minus the Nen buff... whatever that means tbh). And again he's just not in good shape overall even if his abilities got slight buffs all around.
Debate aside, all I know is the next time we see him in a fight when it's not going his way he's going to look absolutely demented when the texture surprise wears off 😆, gonna be a crazy scene.
The only downside i can see in him replacing his limbs with bungee gum is the nen drain which might not even be that bad considering hisokas nen was already top tier before being boosted by his death and we have yet to see hisoka show any nen exhaustion whatsoever
Yes he can because the royal guards do not know that bungee gum has the properties of both gum and rubber .
I think Hisoka would have faired well against the Royal Guard. Illumi even commented that if Hisoka had been paying more attention to the world, he could have faced Netero or Mereum. Illumi wouldn't have teased Hisoka with that missed opportunity unless he knew for sure Hisoka would have stood some sort of chance.
Illumi has never said that and hisoka has no way of beating netero meruem or the royal guards
@@cocopuffs1432 chapter 320 episode 137.
ridiculous question. it's equivalent of asking if Orochimaru could defeat Itachi and Kisame by himself. lmfao
Pitou would win because she's durable enough to take a hit with intent to kill from the King ant himself. I doubt Hisoka has that type of firepower.
Well the only other ants he'd killed were lower ranking ones from before so it's safe to assume that the hit wasn't at full strength because he'd just assumed that she'd been at the same durability as the lower ranking ants
@@DivineDEC
Nah, Meruem said he intended to kill Pitou with that hit. He was using a lot of power in that strike. It's not like Meruem couldn't sense the strength difference between fodder and one of his royal guards. Even fodder could tell the difference in strength between themselves and Pitou, so why not Meruem? A hit like that from the King would take Hisoka's head off.
The ant king clearly wasn't sensing the difference in durability between the two. If he had, the he WOULD have killed her if he intended too.
But he didn't, so he wasn't sensing the aura at the time.
Hisoka would have taken the hit no problem come on.
Hisoka has taken off people's heads way stronger then the base ants that Meruems tail was wiping off.
That isn't even a feat worth mentioning in Pitous favor.
@@-wallenstein-7540 They could tell the difference thanks to the fact that they were able to sense Pitou's immense aura reserves combined with their intent to kill. I don't think the king had yet learned nen so he couldn't sense Pitou's aura, and Pitou hadn't expressed any killing intent near or around the king yet.
@@-wallenstein-7540 no he didn't hear me out it's just like pushing someone assuming they would fall but don't but someone else with the same built fell to the ground I consider it the same thing happening here
Pentagon could actually be a cool Nen Ability for Gon. I'm imagining a Crazy Slots + Jajanken style ability with 5 options and even Gon doesn't know what Jajanken ability he'll get in exchange for more power.
This would be realistic, becouse he loved and admired Kaito.
@@cezarysiemieniewski5502 yeah but sadly he is still alive xd
@@gastonsantiagoparada6075 does reborn without memories counts as alive?
@@cezarysiemieniewski5502 I was under the impression Kite kept most, if not all of his memories (once the new body matured).
@@cezarysiemieniewski5502 no memories? what? he reincarnated as a chimera ant due to his slot ability. He didn't undergo the typical process that fogs up the past lives of ants.
You're downplaying Aura quantity a lot and how much it actually matters in these fights. No one, and I mean no one could deal significant damage to the Royal Guards without using hacks. Youpi was never damaged in the slightest only just annoyed, Pouf was damaged because of the cells being burned by Killua and even then it was a 50% power Pouf (Albeit the technique probably could've worked to kill smaller cells from a 100% pouf) but otherwise he was perfectly fine, and Pitou was killed by Gon using a hacks powerup that put him on the aura level of the king. Aura quantity is directly related to how much defense a character has (This was shown very well in the fight of Gon vs Owl, Snake, and Bat where they were landing plenty of hits but had hardly done any damage because of Gon's practically limitless nen reserve) and all the royal guards are brimming to nearly the max with it, I firmly believe that Hisoka could straight up not damage any of them, even post Chrollo fight Hisoka. If I'm missing anything please feel free to correct me.
Hisoka nearly broken his own arms with bungee gum by having it wrap around his arms. I'm pretty sure hisoka could use bungee gum to get the guard to damage itself. Still wouldn't be enough and the condition to do that is so rare i doubt it could be done
Base Pitou was already the strongest Royal Guard, she low diff’d Kite who’s Chrollo/Hisoka level Thing is even IF Pitou was killed by Hisoka he’d still have to fight Post-death Pitou who gained the post-mortem Nen amp and was way faster than Godspeed Killua and was able to take off Adult Gin’s arm (although he let her rip it off, still is a scaleable feat).
@@SM-zg8mi Maybe it was just the anime but it looked like pitou was a bit beat up after the kite fight, no potential lethal damage or anything but he didn't do no damage to her.
@@kurtlourenco5843 It's a bit controversial since in the manga Pitou just has a bit of blood on their face, but otherwise are completely unharmed. It's also speculated that it could just be Kite's blood. Pitou looks a bit more roughed up in the anime with their knee being scuffed.
@@xavmanisdabestest The situation you're talking about had Hisoka fighting Gotoh, the bungee gum was being twisted by the coins. I'm not entirely convinced that the bungee gum would be strong enough to get Pitou's hand to hurt herself. Number 13 of Razor's Devils was able to stop the dodgeball from being pulled back by the bungee gum causing Hisoka to disable the ability. Let's say for sake of argument that Hisoka could get her arm in a position aimed right at her heart, and also had the mechanisms set up to get a direct blow. She could just dispel the aura on her arm and block with more aura on her chest. I cannot think of a circumstance where he would even get her in that position. Also Kite reacted to a freshly born Pitou with no nen abilities, a much more refined Pitou would decimate Hisoka with low difficulty.
Bruh. Kite being able to almost react to Pitou while they were jumping from literally miles away is not the feat you're making it out to be. Also, you make it sound like bungie gum is a win condition against Pitou, and I'm absolutely in agreement that that's true against most targets, it's completely ridiculous against Pitou. Gon was on-par with the king in terms of raw power, and needed several Jajankens to break Pitou's skull. No amount of rubber, gum or texture is going to accomplish that.
It in no way said he was on par with the king on any level. It implied given all the other high level fighters around that he had enough power to threaten the king. That is not the same as being on par.
As for bungie gum, there are numerous ways he could use it to take out Pitou. The problem as to why I highly doubt that he could, is her speed. He is nowhere near fast enough to evade her long enough to setup anything that would work. His only way of being able to beat her would be to pre setup a trap and lure her into it. And even then it's a 50/50 at best. Especially when you consider how cut throat she was in battle.
@@zephirol4638 In most translations, Pitou literally said "His power is now equal to that of the King". And that was while Gon was still in the process of powering up.
@@Hissingace110 No. It said that his fang may be able to pierce the king or something along those lines. I mean if you want to get the exact quote we can. But I assure you, you're wrong. But I digress.
You need to take into context that Pitou knew that the zoldycks/netero etc. were all there which would make her statement of "may" insinuate she is talking about the totality of foes may be enough to harm the king. Not just Gon. Otherwise she would have been just as worried about netero and zoldyck. Especially if a 2/3v1 confrontation.
I mean hell you can even compare the damage in the Pitou fight vs the king and netero to see Gon wasn't even on par with netero much less the king. It was clearly an indication of the odds as a whole and not directly a statement about gons power alone.
@@zephirol4638 You're doubling down on your own headcanon as though it's objective fact. Pitou took a direct hit from Netero with zero damage, and never demonstrated concern for the King's safety with regards to both Netero and Zeno together, relative to Gon. Assuming that Pitou only became concerned when a third contender that you're convinced is weaker than either of those is sheer nonsense.
As for the quote, I can save you the trouble. It's translated two ways. I'm the official English translated anime, Pitou says, and I quote: "His power is now equal to that of the King." The other translation is quote: "THIS ONE'S fangs really would have reached the King." Feel free to Google it so you can stop making yourself sound so high and mighty while being demonstrably wrong and/or baseless.
@@Hissingace110 I'm not... I'm literally taking the original verbage verbatim and what we actually see take place in the manga/anime. No headcanon needed sweetheart.
No, she was knocked away from a non full form netero. Which is why he makes mention of hoping she doesn't return, rather than remarking about her durability. Because it wasn't meant to be a damaging hit.
Furthermore if she was that close to Netero's power he would have never confronted the king whom he knew to be leagues above the other 3 in the manner he did.
Right.... Because she felt confident that he could handle the 2 of them. But if you understood how basic math works. 3 power houses are more than 2. So if the 2 of them equaled lets say 80% of the kings power. gon may have tipped it over to where there was a chance for the king to be actually harmed having all of them + whatever unknowns all going after the king. Which was her fear in the moments when she fought with Gon.
The actual direct translation from the source is and I quote
"His fangs could really have reached the king"
Could is not definitive. Much more she never seen the king at full power to know what he was capable of. Just rough estimates. Her statements are based on potential, not actuality.
So the only one here baseless is you With your fanservice translations and headcanon that you're trying to somehow project onto me. Despite there being plenty of irrefutable evidence proving you wrong
So with that said. Please don't waste either of our time replying unless you got something factual to back you up I don't have time to keep writing novels about all the reasons why you're wrong.
Major problem with this match up is NEW Hisoka has no feats, so besides commenting he has regeneration now, we're forced to pretty much still match the same Hisoka that was always meant to be overshadowed by the later arc antagonists, against those same antagonists
Short answer: no
Long one: HELL NO
11:18 I think Pouf using Beelzebub against Hisoka would actually lose him the fight. He states himself that is clones are not that strong, so I think they'd pretty mcuh just stick to bungee gum like moths to a moth trap, rendering pouf unable to reform into his full self. If Hisoka does not lose interest while whittling away at Pouf, I think he has a good chance (better even if he can manage to find the main body amidst the comes earlier)
But at the same time, Pouf is not an idiot to throw the entirerity of his clones towards Hisoka who is trapping them. He will probably send a handful and realise that the tactic has gotta change. Pouf's got a genius-level intellect, only overshadowed because of Meruem and Komugi.
But I do commend you for your creative thinking, I didn't think about using his bungee gum (like with Gotoh) in this instance.
BRUH... if poufs clones can get small enough to escape from Morel's Smoky Jail, they can DEFINENTLY escape bungee gum lmao
he doesn't even need beelzebub to fight hisoka all he needs to do use spread his scales and make hisoka inhale them and its over. and unlike morel hisoka doesn't even know what his scales do so he'd have no idea not to breath them in nor does he have morels lung capacity which doubly fucks him.
@@Tupadre97 FACTS
@@Tupadre97 i think 99% of the fanbase forgets about this, its almost Impossible for any human to fight pouf, except for morel
You missed a huge point, even if hisoka used strategies, he can’t damage youpi , he can’t cut through his skin
Are you sure about that?
@@UnexpectedWonder yes , no one could in chimera arc
@@wwe12153 Umm...That's not what the Evidence of the Series showcases actually...
@@UnexpectedWonder Feitan’s sword + Ko can’t strach Zazan.
How the hell Hisoka can damage Yupi ? Lmao
@@caillasse3147 That's not even Feitan's Full-Power, so that's irrelevant. Also, Feitan is as Powerful and as Skilled as Hisoka now?
Short answer: No
Long answer: No chance
Honestly I think Hisoka could beat all three royal guards in a one on one match because of their lack of battle experience and the fact that they all have a one track mind about the king. Hisoka plays on your emotions and train of thought, so it wouldn’t be hard for him to psychologically mess with them, break their concentration, and use his wits to go in for the kill shot.
Well a MAJOR point most are overlooking is Pouf has the sleep/hypnosis scales that he releases with Spiritual message. To fight him you would have to hold your breathe the entire fight. Morel was only able to hold out because of his significant lung capacity. Also assuming Pouf doesn’t split his body up his physical strength should be close to the other royal guards.
Remember tho, his hipnosis ability isnt strong at all. It was said that the only reason he was able to hipnotize the people was because they had been marching for hours while constantly hearing the sound of footsteps and the purr of the tanks. They were physically and mentally exhausted. Morel wasnt holding his breath with Pouf
@@chimasfortniteclips5637 I would say the strength the hypnosis in that scenario isn’t set in stone. He was using it on hundreds of thousands of people over a wide area as opposed to a singular target in a contained area and Yes Morel was holding his breath during his fight with Pouf. Pouf even commented on the fact that he instinctively knew not to breath in his scales and in the Cacoon Notice that morel didn’t say a word out loud to pouf and only monologued in his head. They spoke outside in the yard once Morel saw through Poufs plan
I'm sure hisokas bungee gum would do something about that it seem like there is nothing he can't do with that shit😂
@@jordanwhitley5641 maybe 😂 it does have the properties of both rubber and gum
@@jordanwhitley5641 Blow a gum bubble and breathe that air.
If netero couldn’t injure pitou with a blindsided bodhi sattva hit then how could anything hisoka does injure pitou , this is like when people say they could take a bear in a fight with the right strategy, cmon
netero only hit pitou one time in a 1v1 fight hisokas attacks will stack up and eventually he will do enough dmg
Netero's objective was to separate Pitou from Meruem so he could fight him without interference. I saw this somewhere else, but someone made a really good point that Netero 'shoved' Pitou instead of 'punching' her. Sure, the punch would've done more damage but wouldn't have created enough distance to separate her from Meruem.
Pitou is arguably more dangerous and Youpi in a physical fight. Pitou wasnt a sitting target, they could straight up rush characters like Netero and Kite. Netero being the only one (outside of a juiced Gon) to be able to even consistently counter Pitou. Pitou vs anyone is essentially a cat vs an ant ironically (or a human vs a tiger). On top of that, Gon and Netero are both enhancers, Chrollo and Hisoka for example could never even muster the same raw attack power as the other two. It took a peak Freecss to kill Pitou and that family is capable of flourishing on the Dark Continent.
Hisoka is strong af no doubt in that but he doesn't stand a chance against the Royal Guards.
He would smoke them, he is way too sneaky, smart and experienced for them 😉
@@Maartun Tell that to Kite who lost to a newborn pitou without hatsu. The guards would play soccer with hisoka's head
@@ApatheticEntity I don’t think so but sadly we’ll never find out.
@@Maartun lol hisoka couldnt even beat chrollo how can he face a royal guard (maybe only pouf). But i like your confidence, its showing stupidity written all over it
@@adriancua777 W own that clown
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...Is Ging underrated? I mean, look at it from the Angle of Powerscaling and he looks pretty good seing how he strongly up-scales from Gon and Killua at their (non-suicide-bomb) Best.. Why would Ging habve much less Talent than his Son and his Son's Same-Amount-of-Talent Friend?
Something to consider is that Pitou tanked a hit from the 100-Type Guanyin Bodhisattva with no visible damage other than just being pushed back.
Netero MEANT it to be a 'push back' though, it wasnt an 'attack'
You keep saying that the damage pitou could do to Hisoka would be negligible which just isnt true. She can rip his legs off or punch a hole through his chest. I think you are seriously overrating his bungee gum arm reform feat.
you think hisoka would be a still target though. its not simple to mutilate hisoka lol. look what he could do against razor to absorb maybe 90% of the damage of that ball
@@rafazardly Pitou > Razor
and you are talking about a ball instead of Pitou powerful body which she literally uses to jump mountains.
@@ambro3075 i'm not saying hisoka would crush pitou nor that he would be favorite for winner, but i think the objective of the video is to tell that the probability of win is not altogether 0% for hisoka. any second counts and you don't know where and how the battle will take place... maybe 10-20%, it would not be IMPOSSIBLE for hisoka to achieve it. we dont even know how much his aura boosted. and if his nen is as strong as pitou but we'll find only during the dark continent arc?
i know that pitou is stronger than razor. i think in brute force razor is stronger than hisoka but in a fight id bet hisoka had more than 50% chance. he was actually restricted by the game rules and wanted gon to shine that moment.
Rafael Aguiar that’s actually something Liam entirely made up, as of now, there is no single piece of evidence to even suggest his aura was boosted in any way, he merely gained the new ability to form bungee gum more freely.
I'm sorry, but Neferpitou would destroy Hisoka's bubble gum bussy with one finger. They took adult Gon's arm AFTER dying lmao. Just their sheer base stats, without nen, were too high for Netero to damage them with a surprise attack.
To be fair, idk how much stronger this new Hisoka is, but, as far as I know bungee gum isn't actually capable of directly harming anyone. Pitou seemed *way* faster, stronger and tankier than every other character in the series aside from Meruem.
I do think he would have the most fun against Pitou, though
Pitou had their nen boosted after death and gon was distracted by killua so those are the only reasons pitou could take Gon's arm.
@CaptainAwesomesworld
It was stated Gon allowed pitou to take his arm, he didn't care. He was planning on dying.
Gon could have easily avoided it.
@@LordDTwigo that doesn't explain how pitou was still able to take his arm despite having godspeed killua pushing him away. At the very least, pitou's speed is comparable to killua on godspeed.
@@LordDTwigo lmao you are trying so hard but Hisoka loses against Pitou point blank
@@LordDTwigo It wasn't stated at all. Gon didn't know Pitou would come back to life. He was caught off guard and Killua saved him before Pitou got to him. Gon did say that he can now be like kite but that was after he lost his arm unexpectly.
in terms of normal fight, i dont think anyone could defeat RG except Netero.. 2 of them were defeated by poison which cost Netero's life..
Gon was able to defeat Pitou because he has personal issue which almost cost his life as well.. if only Kite still alive, i dont really think Gon could find a way to kill Pitou..
so same applies to Hisoka.. if it is just general fight, i dont even think Hisoka will be able to defeat them
Ging and beyond can defeat a royal guard. And there are also others.
@@emojest18 i think all the fighting type zodiacs beat royal guards
I think the reason why a lot of us think Pitou would most easily win is that they are not only the fastest and has Terpsichora (sp?) but also, they appear to be the smartest and most perceptive of the royal guard as well. I have a hard time seeing Hisoka landing a blow on her. And even then, if he did, and she died, I think he would have be able to handle/expect post-mortem-nen Terpsicjrfkjsfnhkhjg, and I don't think he could. I think his best odds of a tie are on her, but the lowest chance of victory.
Someone commented this somewhere but they said hisoka has this weird vibe that makes the audience feel like he can’t lose to anyone
Hisoka has 0 chance of beating any of them, they are monsters up to +700.000 of aura written specifically to be broken and practically unbeatable for the narrative and themes the arc was going to have.
No one other than adult Gon and Netero beating thousands of times Meruem for like half an hour+zero hand were able to land a scratch on them, their attack, defense and speed is completely off the charts.
Mereum is leagues above the royal guard. Pitou was getting no diffed by Netero
Netero said Pitou is stronger though. And he simply hit him far, not really a matter of who is more powerful although I’d still bet on netero
Lmao pitou is gon and netero food she gets no diffed during the raid.
Hisoka scales past almost everyone that isn't an ant now he scales to chrollo pre death in fact he is stronger than chrollo since he got help and still barely won. Chrollo who scales to zeno and old netero is pre death hisoka's equal.
Pre death hisoka is scared of the spiders enough to try and trick them to fight chrollo. Post death hisoka is literally hunting the entire troupe he is so much stronger than pre death.
If pre death scales to someone that low diffs pitou and post death is so much stronger that he is unrecognisably more powerful than pre death explain how in an way shape or form a weaker and more stupid opponent combat wise in all of the royal guard stand a chance. Youpi probably wins because his regen is just ridiculous and we haven't seen anything from hisoka to counter it but pouf and pitou get OBLITERATED by post death hisoka.
Another calc
Spiders no dif every ant that's not a royal guard to the point it's a joke for them. And hisoka low diffs spiders.
Gon and Kilua are consistently shown to be at a level where they can fight the ants with Kilua speed blitzing pouf and youpi and Gon pre transformation not being speed blitzed by pitou or pouf even with his back to pouf. Transformed Gon is stated pre rose meruem levels of power and of course no difs pitou. Thus Gon and meruem are tier 1 netero who is high diffed by meruem and thus Gon is tier 2 and anyone that scales to him (Zeno Silva Chrollo HISOKA) is above tier 3 which are the royal guard who get low diffed consistently by tier 1 characters.
Hisoka consistently scales above the ant arc. Not only through how the characters act around him but through feats of characters he scales to that interact with the royal guard.
I haven't watched the video yet but im going to assume no. Hisoka's combination of rubber and gum just doesn't have the PohWaaa to take out one of the guards. I am willing to be convinced otherwise but I don't see how his skill set takes down Pitou, or Youpi. We never saw Pouf go hand to hand but given the enormity of his aura reserves and over all intellect compared to the other two I think Pouf still comes out on top.
Hisoka doesn't have regeneration. He made limbs of bungee gum AFTER the wounds were treated. Machi says how she fixed him up despite him being dead. Even if you assume he can live and go on without limbs, any blow to the torso or head is letal.
That was in animation u noob... Now in manga he has the ability to regenerate..
@@ARick_499 I am talking about the manga. Machi explains how she fixed his body as a sign of respect, despite not exactly being friends with Hisoka. Only after that he made limbs out of Bungee Gum to replace the ones he lost. That isn't regeneration, it's just prosthetic legs and arms. He still needs "proper" treatment.
@@ggwp638BC u still stuck in the old episode... He's talking about latest chapters where hisoka has unlocked the healing /regenerating ability.. What u are saying is of the old chapters!
Arick Limbu3210 lmao are you dense, he’s literally talking about the post chrollo hisoka fight.
For clarification bungee gum has the properties of both rubber and gum
A fun hypothetical I like to think about is if Netero managed to recruit the entire Zoldyck family, all of the Zodiacs, and Beyond (maybe even Hisoka, Bisky, Razor etc.), how well would they fare against the Royal Guards and Meruem. The matchups could be something like this:
- Extermination squad vs Pitou (pretty set in stone b/c Gon would want to fight Pitou)
- Zoldyck Family (or Zodiacs) vs Youpi
- Zodiacs (or Zoldyck family) vs Pouf
- Netero, Beyond, Maha, Ging, Pariston vs Meruem
Netero gets the best from the Zoldycks and Zodiacs. Pariston is potentially very powerful and I feel like him and Ging could make for some big brain attack strategies. If he’s not strong at all then swap him for Botobai.
Will these teams be enough to deal with the Royal guard? How many will die? If a team manages to defeat their respective Royal guard then they will join the other Royal guard fights. If all royal guards are wiped out then they will join the battle against Meruem. I wonder how many would make it to that point and if their abilities could be of any use. Let me know what you guys think.
Suggestion: Extermination Squad, Zoldycks, Zodiacs, Phantom Troupe, Netero, Beyond, and Kurapika vs Meruem and his royal guard.
Also, my take: Extermination Squad should be able to beat Pitou, even without Adult Gon. Morel's Smoky Jail and Knov's Scream are a devastating combo.
@@celsiusnebula I didn’t include the Phantom Troupe, because story-wise, I don’t see how they could’ve hired or convinced the troupe to take place in a battle that might lead to all of their deaths. But screw it, let’s just toss them in there while we’re at it.
I feel like Knov wouldn’t play a very active role in defeating Pitou because of his trauma. Morel’s smoky jail is super useful, I agree.
@@EmbraceTheInevitableI don't think anybody (except Netero and/or Beyond) has the raw strength to kill any Royal Guard, much less Meruem himself, so they'd need very specific abilities that ignore durability. Basically, only Illumi, Shalnark, Chrollo (Fun Fun Cloth), Phinks, Kurapika (Judgement Chain), and Knov (unlikely due to trauma). The plan would likely revolve around trapping the Royal Guard and Meruem long enough for them to hit. Hisoka, Mizaistom, and Morel should be good at that. And of course any Zodiacs that may have very good Hatsu.
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Hisoka could barely handle Razors Nen attack. The royal guard would fold him like a wet napkin.
really? hahah he beat him in his own game, it took him few minutes to understand the dodgeball and turn the table on Razor who is a master on that.
so on 1 v 1 do you think he can beat hisoka ?
Omg lol gon and killua could barely handle the bomber how would they face any of the ants lol omg hahaha ur dumb for using that as a feat
@@depressedasfook2893 Hisoka > Gon and Killua especially Greed Island arc by even more leagues. They made great progress thanks to Palm coming in clutch and calling Bisky to train them intensely. And then during the plan itself they were making progress, during which Killua developed Godspeed. Also is there proof that Hisoka is SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful now in the manga after death? The only impression I got was that the post-mortem nen allowed him to survive death only shortly after his heart stopped beating due to suffocation. Now, the only difference that I think we as an audience have seen is that Hisoka is simply a lot more deadly and bloodlusted, not really "messing around" anymore. It's just kill spiders on sight; that's a big difference from his prior mental state so he will appear far more intimidating but idk if it's been stated or shown to be a real boost in raw ability to just restart your heart with nen skill. I feel like you need to still be dead for post-mortem nen to be, well, post-mortem
Let’s not kid ourselves lol if this fight stuck to the lore and scaling Hisoka would have no chance.
If you stuck to the lore and scaling then that's exactly when hisoka gets a chance because of post mortal nen.
Hisoka should have any problem Defeating pitou.
Read the Manga my dude.
@@LordDTwigo that’s what i’m saying 💀
Facts, Even bungee gum wouldnt help him that much tbh
@@LordDTwigo I have read the Manga my guy. where in the manga have you seen him fight anyone besides shalnark and kortopi after he revived himself. There’s literally no proof how much of a power upgrade he got. The royal guards can take attacks from mureum and netero which I don’t think hisoka could survive from. Let’s not kid ourselves
@@pitchblack5422 yeah hisoka is one of my top 3 favorites but we can’t kid ourselves lol
I don't think Hisoka could beat any of the guards. Indeed he could land a hit on Pitou's vital, but Pitou's neck would be way more durable than Gotoh. Also if Hisoka tries a sneak attack Pitou could use her En to locate him.
As for Pouf people think he's weak because Killua managed to land a hit. However people forget that Kilua managed to land a hit on clone that was composed of 5% of Pouf's real body. Also Pouf's ability to split into nano-sized versions of himself is OP as hell. He can literally fly into someone's lungs and suffocate him from the inside. There is literally no human in Hxh up until this point that Pouf could not kill/assassinate.
Does raise the opposite point though. Couldn't Hisoka then use Bungee Gum to completely encase a person's head and kill them that way? Or in Pouf's case, use Bungee Gum to completely trap all of his clones?
None of the royal guard would have been able to beat Netero, beyond netero,, Alluka, full charge killua, and most likely ging
@@rikusawada6113 The same strategy was used by the smoke guy and pouf still escaped trought smoke particles. When you're that small in theory you could go through solid objects , so i don't see bungee gum being any way more effective than smoke prison.
@@firefoxmd420 Netero probably would win against a royal guard . We have no info about beyond netero. Alluka is not suited for combat, if illumi could kill Alluka/Nanika so could the royal guards. Full charged Killua lasted for aprox 10 sec against Yubi and then he was draned.
@@atonlort5666 yea but Alluka is theorized to have infinite power depending on the wish, and if killua just had a little more time to do endurance training 😩 would’ve been epic, and about beyond, his name is literally BEYOND netero. In the manga there is only 2 people that have travelled to the dark continent and survived. beyond is one of them. I think it’s safe to assume beyond is op asf
Edit: Only 2 people still alive* that have traveled to the dark continent.
The BungeeGum is one of the most versatile nen abilities in the Hunter universe, plus Hisoka’s strategy often includes using the enemy’s abilities against them not just to mock them, but also to set up feints and counters. I think he might have trouble with first fight because of the regeneration but he could most likely find a strategy for the third
I believe hisoka is one of gings student. He has a task is to find ging. He spoke to one of the zodiac where ging is. The same kite task is to find ging and because of that ging told about gon that is why hisoka is taking care if gon same as kite coz he thinks if he finds gon he will find ging. He knows gon is monster coz he saw already ging ability as a monster too. Same as razor told. It is like they consist of 4 ging as the enhancer hisoka as transmutter and kite as conjurer and razot as emmiter same goes with gons teammate killua, leorio,kurapika. Both similar skills.l and personality
There's just no way for Hisoka to damage Pitou though. That's the thing. He doesn't have the power to hurt any of the Royal Guards, not even Pouf. BTW. In no way is Hisoka more durable than Pitou. Pitou tanked Netero's attack and even more impressive, Meruem's attack that was intended to kill Pitou. Hisoka would straight up die from that. Hell, Pitou post-mortem even managed to take Adult Gon's arm, who is on pre-rose Meruem's level. There's just no path for Hisoka to win.
I agree with everthing, besides the arm part. Gon let her take the arm, so its hard to say if she would be normally capable of that. Not to mention she was using her Terpsichora ability.
Its possible pitou isnt as durable as we think. I cant explain the lack of damage from Meruems attack but a 1 armed ambushed kite actually did noticeable bodily harm to pitou before dying! If we assume kite and hisoka are both similar level then maybe its a fair fight
@@geffz I mean I feel like that was more of a show of Kites capabilites not of Pitous weakness. Pitou took very little damage from Kite, and was most likely toying with him. While its hard to say if Kite or Hisoka has more output, I dont see anyway Hisoka being able to produce enough output to kill Pitou, or do anything serious.
PERFECT ANSWER. BEAUTIFUL. I couldn’t agree more!! The whole time I watched the video I was like “did we watch the same show?” The fact that the royal guards have many times more aura than hisoka means their ten (protective layer of nen) would be far too tough for hisoka to damage.
Also, pitou launched herself fast enough to break the sound barrier. Hisoka isn’t dodging that.
Its kind of hard to regenerate things with bungee gum when the things are your head. Pitou just needs to decapitate Hisoka in order to win. I understand your point, but I think your are overestimating Hisoka's regenerative capabilities.
I do like the point with Pouf. Theoretically, Hisoka could win by capturing Pouf when he's smol though.
No, it's as simple as that, even Netero didn't try fighting Pitou when he wasn't at full strength.
Maybe Hisoka could have beaten Kite, barely, depending on his draws.
Youpi gets stronger over time and better adapted to his opponent, while Hisoka likes to draw out fight and play with his. That's a dead no.
Shaiapouf could just run away at any time and he's a smart trickster too, neither would win.
Pitou is quite strong from the get go and her healing + post mortem ability make her very dangerous.
Don't cut her durability short either, she took a hit and the King with no serious injury, it's way beyond any human.
And she knows best how to "break" human bodies too, because of her extensive study of them. She sees Hisoka recover an arm once and she goes for vitals like the head/heart.
you are forgetting that hisoka can really recover from injuries, he's just faking it. So it'd be even easier to Pitou to beat him.
When the king hit her he hit her with the same strength he uses to kill fragile humans and low tier ants with no nen. it’s not like he used all of his power.
@@koetekage2802 Pitou got hit by Zeno Zoldyk and it did nothing
@@Fallenangel_85 I know but I’m saying that meruem hit her with the same strength he uses for a regular human and could definitely have killed her if he went full force
@@koetekage2802 I doubt it, since he didn't have the Nen control yet, would have definitely hurt her a lot though.
Actually Pitou might be the worst match up for Hisoka. One, her abilities are NOT useless --- or at least not one of them, which is Terpsichora.
First off, we never really saw Terpsichora extensively, but considering its ability to "overcome limits", and the fact that a Terpsichora Pitou was relative to Godspeed Killua (when she cut Gon's arm off)... it's safe to say she can absolutely blitz.
Second, Pitou is deadlier offensively than the other two, mostly because she is faster. We saw the other characters, slower than Hisoka, literally just run around Youpi. Hisoka is never getting hit by Youpi. While Pouf's abilities are not meant for offense. But Pitou? She just swipes your head off. One attack, that's all it takes, and good luck dodging it.
Third, Pitou's en is the widest of the three, meaning there is literally no escaping her, while Hisoka can escape the other two.
Good points. To be fair tho we also have to take into account that the Terpsichora that took Gon’s arm off was stronger due to post death nen so it was most likely faster than it usually is. Without that boost I would say Killua is still faster by a fair amount. She still does blitz Hisoka regardless tho😂I agree with all your other points👍
Hisoka does not actually have regeneration power or healing though. He can only put texture on the wound to make it appear to be healed, and also attach his still unusable limp with gum. Any damage you cause to him actually stay under that illusion.
He actually can heal now after using post mortem nen
Manga Hisoka wound up dying against Chrollo but restarted his heart with a last-second gamble of post-mortem nen to restart his heart (using the elsasticity of Bungee Gum to forcibly pump blood through his system)
Like most post-mortem nen, the ability grew stronger. His Bungee Gum became much more malleable in consistency and responsive in function, allowing him to create prosthetic limbs made out of it.
In combination with texture surprise, he uses the conjured nature to coat the nen prosthetic with skin and visible appear to be normal.
The win condition with Pouf would be squashing his primary body when using Beelzebub (Pouf even said Morel missed a chance to win if he had kept Smokey Jail and squashed his main body which can only get so small, unlike the clones).
This is the only way but finding his real body is impossible lmao, there are billions of clones, and he can just hide his main body high in the sky.
And Shaiapouf’s clone are immune to physical attack
Can we get ur opinion on recent Jujutsu kaisen chapters since there is no one piece this week
Hisoka is not going to be able to hurt Pitou, even a smack from Neteros Bodhissatva gave Pitou no visible damage.
A smack that netero specifically stated was with intent to move her and not use much nen he moved her wasn't trying to kill
@@depressedasfook2893 Yes Netero was trying to move her far away but to say that means he wasn't trying is absolutely ridiculous, he has no reason to not hit Pitou full power, especially if he wants to get Pitou as far away as possible. If anything he KNEW one attack wouldn't do much damage because he knows Pitou has a ridiculous amount of aura, more than him even, that doesn't mean he wasn't trying if anything it means the opposite
Move it*
@CaptainAwesomesworld That literally makes no sense, he wouldn't use the Zero hand because that takes away his life energy. That doesn't change the fact he hit Pitou seriously
@CaptainAwesomesworld He has literally NO reason to hold back on a slap against Pitou, in fact it contradicts the idea of him wanting to get Pitou as far away as possible
Pitou survived a killing blow from the Mereum. This is the same Meruem who Netero could not fight h2h because if he did he would of just got ripped apart. Hisoka has nothing in his arsenal that could hurt Pitou.
And I am confused about all of this super powerful post death Hisoka talk. What has he really done that suggests he has had a amazing power up?
Post mortem nen makes the users aura orders of magnitude more powerful in almost every way. It's one of the first intricacies you learn about in the series. Hisoka used it to revive himself from death and has amplified the effects of bungee gum. This applies to basic aura usage as well. Hisoka was able to kill two members of the troupe following his revival, despite the fact that they didn't have their abilities they're also accomplished fighters in their own rights which mastery over all the basics. That being said they were both literally killed in a single strike.
@@NewSirenSongPost Mortem Nen is Nen during death, Hisoka is alive, so therefore he doesn't have that Nen anymore.
And secondly, you need Nen to fight a Master Nen user, so Hisoka killing Nenless spiders is notna flex/feat for him.
Hisoka would win against puff for one reason only, it's the guy that can turn into fly sized or smaller versions of himself against flypaper
Forget royal guards. Lets talk about Zazan( the wannabe chimera ant queen) if not for Feitan’s insane agility and his BUSTED Rising sun hatsu, is there any human that can actually defeat her?
Yes
Chrollo
Netero
Gin
Maha
Yes, anyone from the main cast excluding the obvious non fighters like leorio. Almost anyone who was involved in the invasion could lmao. You guys wank spiders too much. His rising sun isn't busted it's required activation DAMAGE onto yourself is dogshit lol.
@@55thstreet66 rising sun is busted. Zazan is stronger than Killian and gon at the time. Possibly not Killian because of God speed but everyone weaker than Killua is below zazan.
The fight ends with Hisoka's head in Pitou's hands lol
Netero > Uvogin > Hisoka in Attack Power.
Netero cannot scratch a single royal guard without hitting them thousands of times like he did to Meruem, all the royal guards have greater nen and by extension stamina than Hisoka. Hisoka has no hax he can use to bypass durability. Every royal guard has the AP to cleave Hisoka in two with a single strike.
Hisoka gets negged, negative difficulty. This isn’t a debate.
Like actually bro, not even a fair fight. Pitou Speed Blizes and one shots. Yupi one shots, and Pouf has way more aura so even if it comes to a battle of endurance he just wins
not really hisoka scales speed wise to pitue intelligence wise to pouf and healing wise to not quite the same level but better than anyone else In manga I mean he scales to chrollo with detailed knowledge of him and prep time and chrollo scales to 2 of the zoldic family 1 of which is in manga placed as a foil to the chairmen and this is all pre his Manga buff not trying to wank him but he definitely scales to an extent the argument is not silly
@@depressedasfook2893 he does not scale speed wise to pitou whatsoever, kite could barely react to an attack from 2km away. The guards’ sheer stats are way too high for hisoka.
@@jake6542_ brother really trying to argue that Kite seeing Pitou from 2 Kilometers away makes Kite somehow close to Pitou in speed
"This isn't a debate."
Lol that's not how this works buddy
Kite stated that pitou is “monster” even by his own standards.
Killua also stated “that even morel, knov, and netero” would not be able to defeat pitou and i doubt killua has any reason to lie about that.
Thirdly, colt also strengthened the argument of how the 3 royal guards are on a different scale to someone like the late netero. And colt didn’t even budged whe he saw netero’s aura upclose and personal. So in my humble opinion, even if hisoka was able to miraculously kill pitou “post mortem” pitou would be revived even stronger after death to put the nail in the coffin. I don’t like how you came up with that idea where pitou could lose to someone like hisoka its like you’re saying kite is weaker than hisoka
i think killua just underestimated netero. netero would easy clap pitou without even using 0 hand
unlike mereum pitou wouldnt be able to predict neteros tendency therefore eat hits from 100 buddha without any counter.
@@Lemjanmusic A good thing to remember is that Pitou took that hit from Netero (which he stated he had the intent to kill) with no damage similar to Meruem. Pitou even took a similar hit from Meruem (that same hit would one shot 99.99% of every character in the story) where he tried to kill her. Though, unlike Meruem, Pitou is catlike and likes to 'play with her food' and is therefore a lot less tactical or even intelligent. I could see Netero stalemating Pitou instead of losing the attrition battle like he did with Meruem. The Colt point still stands, Pitou and Netero negate each other, but Netero would still be dog walked by the Royal Guard. Honestly, imagine for one second the Royal Guard attacking together. Killua was right as well, the aura difference was overwhelming. His experience would only get him past a 1v1, the Royal Guard consecutively or even in tandem is no dif. Killua isnt stupid or inexperienced, and Colt gave an objective answer.
Kite was blitzed by a day old Pitou. I think the real issue is that people are missing the gap between Netero and peak Gon. Netero tried to kill Pitou with that slap and it did no damage. Gon with a simple kick left Pitou staggered and bleeding. His Rock sent Pitou flying a mile away through trees and rocks, and damn near caved her face in. Pitou went from toying with Kite to essentially being 2 shot by Gon. Pitou admitted that Gon could threaten pre-rose Meruem, something that Netero couldnt even dream of. You have to be contending with Meruem to defeat Pitou, and you have to be Netero to not instantly die. Netero is bare minimum the #2 hunter in the world (we have every reason to belive Ging is #1), and could do nothing to Pitou. You have to be a prime Freecss to even threaten the Royal Guard. The same Freecss that can thrive on the Dark Continent. Not saying Netero had no chance against Pitou, he has all the experience and an unbreakable guard, but thats just 1/3rd of the Royal Guard. Respectfully, Hisoka has no chance against Netero, and likely would be toyed with by Pitou similar to Kite.
At the end, any royal guard can defeat Hisoka, only if they use En with a strong aura at the start of the battle, they are so fucking strong with negative aura.
I had him losing to all 3 but I portrayed the 1v1s as hisoka in the ant arc not in post mortem nen so it was the same time frame.
I still picture him losing to them 1 on 1 even with post mortem nen, granted it would be much closer.
Even with post mortem nen. He gets rolled so hard. No diff. The royal guards are literally newborns and they're stomping and outwitting top hunters like Kite and Morel. Don't overwank that post mortem nen friend.
Hisoka is being protected by the writer.
Hisoka wants to fight Netero = Netero Ignored him
Hisoka wants to fight Chrollo = Chrollo can't use nen anymore
Hisoka wants to fight Ging = Ging is Absent
Chimera Ant Arc = Hisoka Absent.
There’s no chance Hisoka beats any royal guard one on one. That’s the whole reason he wasn’t in the arc he would’ve got himself killed because he would’ve been so excited to fight
People who think hisoka would lose to pitou are the people with the cat-boy fetish. They disgust me. Honestly, I can't see hisoka losing to any of the ants one on one. He would figure them out. The only one that could beat him would be the king, and I'm not certain that hisoka wouldn't figure a way out of that.
they forget hisoka fight with his brains and always finds away to defeat the other fighter
It's honestly such a shame he was never involved. He would have had so much fun.
Um pito took gons full punch 2 times,I dont think hisoka is that physically strong.
Before watching: Hisoka would not stand a chance against any of the Royal Guard and him rating himself so highly during the Election arc feels like a retcon of the power scale.
After watching: Oh, this is a fanfic version of Hisoka that has strength likely on par with the Meruem (if he can damage Pitou physically) and healing on par with Majin Buu. Okay, fair play, I guess.
All said, I wouldn't mind Hisoka being this strong with post-mortem Nen but I think its a reach to assume he's already at this level when the story hasn't confirmed nor even really hinted at this.
The main idea is none of his Nen abilities would fair well against any of the ant guards and his physical strength, speed and durability (which he tends to rely on in his fights) is nothing compared to theirs. It's literally a no-win situation for him.
I rate you, but I think you've gravely underestimated Pitou a number of times now.
I actually think Pitou would be the worst matchup for Hisoka, and that he in particular could do much more damage to Pouf, and at the very least tie to him.
I think you are REALLY overestimating. Hisoka is not wolverine or gold experience, he can create prosthetics.
Glad to see you're almost at 300k!