Being from IA, many of us use these. Pogie lites were designed here in IA and is owned by a sole proprietor who is a huge supporter of cycling. They are awesome, get some!
What? I didn't realize Bike Iowa sold merchandise, period! 😬 I have Barr Mitts instead and am currently scratching my head why I haven't put them on my bike yet this November.
The most important thing when it comes to gloves isn't insulation or water protection; it's wind protection. I live in Norway, and I've ridden all year round in temperatures ranging from -20 to +35 science degrees, and every time I get cold hands it's because of cold, moving air. I got some cheap wind proof gloves, and they keep me warm enough once it gets colder.
Same, Canada, -20 to -40C winters, I have some all season water/windproof shell mittens that split down the middle, and I just wear a pair of gloves underneath. The all season cycling 3 finger mitts were cheaper for the pair, than a single pogie, and more practical.
I've been using rowing gloves instead of bike specific gloves for the past 3 years. Bike gloves would last around a month or 2 before they start to deteriorate but the rowing gloves, specifically NRS fingerless, have hit 7 or 8 months on my current pair, with similar performance with the previous 3-4 pairs. Just something I've noticed and I'm very happy about. I like good gloves EDIT: No glove can withstand a sustained attack from a 4 month old puppy, as I just relearned 🐕
Neoprene does not evaporate moisture and therefore your hands freeze inside through their own water production I learned it by freezing my feet with socks of the same material, thinking it would be great for biking but it wasn't. Ok fingerless means it's not closed, but having fingers exposed is only good for Florida.
In cold/wet Seattle winters Bar Mitts were a game changer. I don’t wear anything under them down to about freezing. So no bulky gloves on the brakes and shifters. And as a bonus they keep water and crud out of the brake and shift levers. When riding or when parked.
As a road cyclist I was hesitant but your review sold me on these. I just got back from my first ride with these - a 4hr z2 road ride in sub freezing NY weather - and my hands didnt get cold once. With drop bars, you have limited options with the grip positions, but I had full access to the brakes and shifters. I no longer dread longer winter rides thanks to these. No glove has ever been able to keep the chill out for longer than an hour for me. Thanks!
I've been rockin' the Bike Iowa pogie lite's for over a year. They look different than the ones in the video so that may be a newer version. They get 5 stars from me. They were so good that I actually bought two noodles and rewired my Rohloff shifter so that the pogies would work with the grip-shift on my Jones Loop Bar. Great product.
@@bgymr9722 i think 3mm, they are on the thicker side of what I found available. Good to around 0°c, maybe a bit colder. My hands don't deal well with cold so others may be better in even cooler temps.
I have 3mm neoprene cycling gloves and and I find below 5 C unberably cold so ended up putting insulated gloves over the top. I used to use a pogi but I found the a nuisance.
Great review, man! You almost sold them to me - the only thing stopping me is that I’m in Australia, heading into a super hot and clammy Summer and I have no idea why I was so interested in this video. 🤣 You’re very persuasive.
Haha same, I was watching because the rides to work earlier this year when it was freeze your nuts off cold in Victoria saw me go through a bunch on gloves to try and stop my hands going numb 😂 this might be overkill for Australia flat out though.
@@skartimus I wouldn’t say overkill, I luckily have had these for a little over a year, using them this weekend in the upper 20s and will use them on all outside rides until it hits 60 or so. Not sure on the temps you will be riding in but they are amazingly versatile
I mean yeah 10C is probably the coldest we would expect in aus, except a lil colder some mornings. definitely seems overkill when there's plenty of other solutions that are more flexible year round!
I put latex gloves (any disposable glove will do) under some cheap neoprene "cycling" gloves, seems like the wrong thing to do but its not sweat that actually cools you down its the sweat evaporating away, the latex prevents it by creating a vapor barrier. Same principle as the old sandwich/bread/potato chip bag trick some hikers and cyclists use for their feet (two pairs of socks with a bag in between). I do like the idea of these though.
I've tried that. Doesn't work in freezing and sub freezing temps for me. The wind just just wraps around individual fingers with no room for warm insulated air.
@@PathLessPedaledTV Works for me but to be fair I don't really suffer that bad with the cold even when its sub freezing. I should have added that I sprayed the "cycling" gloves with that tent waterproofing stuff maybe that keeps the wind out, or maybe I just don't go fast enough to generate any LOL.
Love the Bike Iowa design- the lack of insulation that lets you use the levers even if your hands are outside of the pogie is genius. Keeping the wind off of your hands is much more important than insulation in most applications. A super budget option for low temps is sewing up your own pogies out of an old synthetic sleeping bag. Nice review Russ and hello from Eastern Iowa !!!
It gets down to -40 F where I live so I opted for the neoprene bar mitts. The only issue I had with them is I had to cut a hole for the bar-end mirror. You can buy them with a hole but it would cost you $30 more!
When it's wet and cold I use Showa insulated work gloves from Japan. Totally waterproof, excellent grip, and insulated. Get them large and you can even fit a thin wool liner inside, if needed for really cold days. I found them online for about $12 bucks a pair and I'm on my second season in them. Nothing else I've tried is as totally waterproof.
As someone who sews their own bikepacking bags, I'm really curious if I could make these. I have a bunch of light and waterproof drybags lying around that I could modify.
These would be perfect for all year riding. Unfortunately the shipping fees to Canada are $38! That's quite steep with an $80 price tag. And then conversion, and then (potential) duty fees. Another great product that's a bit too much on a spendy side for those outside of the US (unless, of course, money is not a consideration).
Good solution. Another tip is to have your arms be as warm as possible. I wear an extra layer of arm warmers to keep the blood going into the hands as warm as possible. Warming the hands is really inefficient.
As a London cycle courier, I totally endorse this video. I don't use the product in the video but a pair of muffs meant for motorcycles which are fur lined. I never get cold hands even in minus temperatures. The only proviso is that to do it my way, you'll need a flat bar bike. Also, don't spend money on expensive gloves, most large stores stock cheap thinsulate ski gloves that are warmer.
Gosh, this review made me pull out my old motorcycle Hippo Hands. Looks like I can get them to fit drop bars easy with full use of drops and hoods. Wonder how effective they'll be with the larger opening though.
I use snowmobile ones on my e-mtb to close up the bar side opening I use a strip of dual sided velcro and I don't get air infiltration until about 40 mph air speed
You can get all kinds of winter cycling gloves at your local hardware store for less than half the price of buying cycling gloves. I paid about $20 for the insulated leather gloves I bought at Home Depot. I ride in 15-30*F temps all the time with these gloves and I have been using them for a few years. I don't use pogies.
I was going to say that too, or even better, wholesale construction equipment sites online, there definitely is a "bicycle tax" where can pay 2-4 times as much.
There is a point when a glove (as defined as a thing with multiple things for your fingers) will not be warm enough. If you live in a place where you can get away with gloves, then awesome. If you live in a place with real winter, good luck.
@@PathLessPedaledTV True, I believe the Eskimos have used mittens since the dawn of history, there's something to be said for ancient traditions (like rim brakes)
Ive tried several kinds of pogies and bar mitts. The neoprene ones are easiest to get my hands in and out of on the drops. Pogies of all kinds on MTB bars tend to flop around more. I wear fleece lined leather mitts when it's below 20 degrees F or windstopper fleece from 20-30 F, above that it's Endura windstopper gloves with bar mitts. All of my winter bikes are singlespeed for ease of maintenance and consistent reliable operation with road salt and crud.
I used the lobster claw gloves with hand warmers when temps got below freezing, but that was my limit. Now I live in Phoenix so that's a distant memory 🙂
I've always had good luck with insulated work gloves from Home Depot or Lowes. $15-20 a pair and if something happens to them, you are not out a ton of $$$.
Whoa. I know pogies from kayaking, have seen them on flat bar bikes, but couldn’t imagine them working on drop bars. This could be life-altering for my cycling pals with Reynaud’s Syndrome. Thanks much.
I use skiing gloves, I think made of kevlar or similar materials. Very thin & light weight, breathable, waterproof and protect against cold. You can also wear summer gloves underneath. No need for linnet. But you can also get skiing silk liner. All cheap 2nd hand from people who went on skiing holiday once.
For 20-30F rides I've used basic marmot mid-weight gloves with a merino liner. Works down to mid-30s then I tape hand warmers to my palms. Worked great in mid-20s. These Pogie's seem a lot easier! Plus, I stop and take pix a lot, so taking off layers is a pita. Ive also used Klim winter dual-sport gloves. They are warm but bulky. Looking at Hestra gloves + merino liners bc I can also use them for snowboarding/snowshoeing. Knowing me I will probably get he Pogies too!
Bought these last year and my experience [ I have VERY large hands] is similar to yours BUT they are a bit restrictive when cinched tight around wrists to keep the cold out.
I like pogies, but I prefer to use wool gloves on the inside, because wool helps a lot with moisture management and stays warm even when wet. The plastic gloves get my hands clammy.
Been motorcycling and biking since the 70's and bar mitts are the only thing guaranteed to keep hands dry. Less of a problem now I'm an old git and don't have to commute!
Mike - I went the same route initially, but the I found the extra bulk and insulation unnecessary for most of the fatbiking I do here in Iowa. I've personally used these down into the single digits last year with no issues.
I'm sure those Pogies work better that gloves and even better in combination with gloves. But seing them I can't avoid the imagination to have my hands stuck at them while falling down and that imagination is really scary. Probably the hands will not be completly stuck in them, but when falling even half a second for getting the hands out of the Pogies can make a big difference. Maybe it doesnt scare most other people that much, because they dont fall with their bikes. But after finding myself laying beside my bike 5 times during the last 2 years, it would be a bit bold to call it unlikely to happen.
Hello Montana cyclist! Thanks for the tip. I'm still cycling here in Helena. It's been so warm my ski gloves still work. Last weekend I went trail riding one day and ski'd the next day.
Had these and the showers pass crosspoint gloves since shortly after this video. Love both items and even in January….in Iowa they work great for my 8 mile commute. It was 23 today and while I wouldn’t have wanted to go long distance with this setup without a better glove option, the pogies are so slick.
Lol I've been wearing plastic food bags held on with elastic reflective wristbands- looks terrible but keeps my ski gloves bone dry and doesn't stop me accessing my vintage between-your-knees friction shifter in a hurry.
Thin nitrile gloves as wind/vapor barrier. Work gloves (Mechanix-esque) for overs, good for down to near freezing, but if your hands sweat a lot not exactly comfortable. Or at least that's what works for me.
I'm a sweaty guy riding in Seattle. I only have two options in the rain. Get wet from the outside or the inside of the gloves. I'm really looking into these but my commuter bike has bar end shifters.
For folks thinking these aren't "roadie enough", that may be the case looks-wise, but consider how "roadie" you'll feel using your usual half-finger gloves in cold winter weather.
open palm neoprene windsurfing mitts are the best for cycling imo. they cost little, can be flipped up while cycling in case you need your fingers and, most important, stay warm no matter how wet they get.
I live in MN, I've been using two gloves with some overbuilt poagies. My light gloves have been holding up just fine so far. I have an insulated leather pair for below freezing temps. I don't break out the poagies until it's in the single digits tho. Got me through last winter, and I'm committed for this winter as well.
Pogies don't have thread breaking friction and insulation cancelling compression like a glove or mitten. I like my winter pogies. The ones featured here remind me of rain gloves.
I've used bar mitts on motorbikes before because they work so well and I'm pleased to see them working on drop bars as I have just converted my old mountain bike to gravel bars. I'm a cheap skate though, so I may go get myself some ripstop fabric and get out the sewing machine. Thank you for the review.
Gave up on fancy gloves long ago. Try this really cheap trick. Regular short finger cycling gloves and then a pair of jersey gloves, the like $3.00 brown hardware store work gloves. They breath enough you don’t get sweaty hands yet seem to work with your body heat. They aren’t tight. Tight = cold. Best option I’ve found yet. The yellow fuzzy gloves are bit heavier but work too. Yes their downside can be rain.
Had a pair for a year now they are a must once the weather starts to turn.I’ve used in -10 with mid weight gloves and hands stayed warm worth every penny, just ordered the girlfriend a pair.
As an MTB rider, I need good gloves with a lot of grip. I still have winter gloves, but I recently bought a pair of Leatt Subzero XLs that only cost $12. That's really not much and a great price. You just have to look for offers and because you have others, you don't have any pressure
You have incredible solutions radar, Russ. Thanks for the review. I hesitated on buying the Bar Mitts but could get with these. In the meanwhile I’ve been having really good success with my People’s Poncho which hooks right over the lever blades and keeps my hands really toasty in addition to letting me wear normal, breathable non waterproof stuff underneath.
Interesting product - I used pogies for years when sea kayaking. I never knew you could get them for cycling! They are available for motorcycles but I found them dangerous but these look much better.
I used pogies on my straight bar Cannondale mountain bike that I used for my winter bike for several years. Last two years I have used pogies on my straight bar electric assist Gazelle. In both cases they made a world of difference. Love your review of the pogie lights for drop bars. Looks like an awesome option.
If you keep your core and arms warm, lightweight but windproof gloves (like Gore Infinium) are fine some way below 10C, and I say that as someone affected by Raynaud's syndrome.
You don't even necessarily need a pogie, you can use a mitten shell, which is the same except stuck to your hand. REI sells a pair of gortex mittenshells that are awesome. Other companies do too, but they get expensive. Pair with your expensive cycling gloves, or much cheaper fleece wool liner gloves. If it's cold add more fluffy insulation in the form of more gloves. Pretty simple, and you can use them for skiing or hiking or whatever else.
I have neoprene pogies and use them without gloves most of the time. It's good for all four seasons in Auckland, New Zealand, including without gloves.
Whoa! $80? This is definitely not an impulse spend. I'll have to plan for this purchase in advance. My commutes tend to be two hours in the winter and freezing rain is a constant during the winter in Cleveland. I do have bar mitts that I use when the weather gets cold but when there is 20 to 30 degree difference between the morning temperature and the afternoon temperature, the bar mitts can sometimes be too hot. They can be annoying having to put them on in the morning then removing them in the afternoon because it is too warm. Or vice versa. The Pogie Lites could be a nice alternative.
Mittens outperform gloves because fingers warm each other when they touch. I only use mittens at - 15 Celsius or colder . I usually don't bike below - 10 .
The 3 finger lobster claw mittens cheaper for the pair than one pogie, and they're more practical for other uses, like keeping your hands warm when you get off the bike. Just make sure they're windproof, then you can wear some thin gloves with good dexterity or even some battery heated glove liners underneath them (depending how cold). You have to take pogies off and put them on every time you lock up, and if you have other accessories like a bike computer or saddle bags to remove, this just adds to the time it takes to mount and dismount at the rack.
Thanks! Please do another video on lower temps, say 30, 20, 10 and 0, and if it's as easy to carry snacks and other gloves in it as other stiffer pogies, or if its too baggy. Other reviews show it works on mountain bike flat bars in articles with pictures only, but please add this to show it on flat bars in video. Thanks!
Pearl Izumi made 3 finger mits which was good but since they changed the pattern of this model (Amfib Lobster Gel Gloves) they are no longer as effective. In part because they no longer offer a real XXL ,all their size shrink and if there no room for larger hand it will not be hot inside.
Thin is interesting, but I have RockBrothers bar mits, 2 more points they can keep battery packs warmer for bike lights, also for cooler weather -10°c iron oxide heat packs keep your hands toasty!
I got Bar Mitts for road bars worth every dime ... OK aero was a surprise, use gauntlet gloves below freezing & on studded tires for icy roads, 8sp Salsa Journeyman 700c wheels, gotta 12-42t/50-34 luv it 🍺
Bike Iowa pogies! Yes!!! These are awesome and worth every single dime! I wear mine with a pair of military surplus wool gloves, and they're awesome. Fits my Jones H bars perfectly too.
I nearly got frostbite on my fingers last winter even though I was riding with thick, windproof gloves. That's when I decided I needed something better, so I bought some Wolf Tooth Pogies which have been wonderful. Now I can wear thin gloves, or even fingerless gloves and still have toasty warm hands.
The only concern is when you fall. Good luck trying taking the hand from there to protect your face/body from the fall. Similar if you go down the stairs with the hands in your pocket(face/teeth will be affected)
Could you review the Bar Mitts road bike Dual position pogies? They look like they would allow you to switch between the hoods and drops without taking your hands out of the pogies.
Invented by Basic Active Wear from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, back in 1997, original name were "handlebar mittens" later on the name was changed, I'm not sure who changed it.
This seems to be more suitable for multi-day trips or places that are too cold. Though, I think dutch commuters use these as well. In Germany, we rarely we go subzero and if it rains during a ride, a train station is close enough to get back home asap.
Because the pogies are more flexible, they look to be a little more finikey to get in and out of. The Bar Mitts are neoprene, and are therefore stiffer, so entry/exit is easy, and they work like a champ. I agree that they work WAY better than heavy gloves, though. Thin gloves and Bar Mitts have done the job for me down into the teens for temperature, I’m a roadie, so I rarely go out in colder weather than that, since wind chill on my face while riding gets to be too much at anything below about 15-18 Deg F
I got the special ones for my road bike with it’s old style cable out the side of the hoods. I will need another set for my Brompton if I am to ride through the winter.
Is this the one designed by Steve Redmond, former Seattle bike cop who created these type in 97-99 I'm pretty sure. Then work awesome, he started it for flat bars since Seattle was the first to mass adopt MTN bike for patrols. They were sponsored by Raleigh. He didn't make them for drop bars for quotes while. It doesn't get that cold in temp in Seattle but with British type rain and constant wind. 40 and wind/rain is older than riding in Utah at -7*f in Utah.
Really interesting! Might try out these on my gravel bike. I have very nice warm gloves, but if the ride exceeds a few hours, even these get cold. A nice side effect of the pogies for me would be, that I don’t need to take off layers of gloves to be able to use my hands.
Great review Russ! I am into my 4th pair of so called waterproof gloves in 3 years so I am jumping on these right now :) Canadian winters can be just as terrible as they get so I'm willing to try anything to keep me dry and warm year round. I'll gladly give my money to a fellow cyclist thanks and hello from up north
I have various weight winter gloves from Costco. Nothing fancy or expensive. Here in Colorado I have ridden in single digit temps, but almost always dry or snowy, which is the same as dry.
Theres already a depressing amount of snow out here. Unfortunately for where I am there is no winter riding. The season ends in December and wont start again until February/March.
I crashed multiple times on my bikes, often when road conditions were froozen or wet. Being able to move my hands quickly to save my cranium from hitting the ground seems more important to me , so i´ll stick to wearing two pairs of gloves.
45 North Pogies are more rigid. I can, and have, gotten in and out in microseconds. Pogies don't need to be really tight. They need to block wind. Do what makes you comfortable.
Over the probably 15 years I’ve used them, I’ve only crashed a couple times with a bar mitts-equipped road bike, but many times on mountain bikes, and in all cases, the BarMitts were a total non issue, hands naturally slip out.
Wind proof is the key. In recent tests of my own for upper body, I did 2 rides. I wore a t-shirt, a very heavy poly fleece long sleeve sweat shirt and a medium weight hoodie. I could feel the cold air penetration through the hoodies zipper right away. My arms felt cool. I peddled hard enough to stay warm but could always feel the cold air. The second ride I ditched the heavy fleece, and just went t-shirt, same hoodie, then 100% wind proof, single ply jacket. Instantly knew this was better. Of course it was not unexpected, but I wanted to look at my options, as this year is the first time I have decided to ride all winter. Cutting the wind makes a world of difference, and I definitely want to look in to these demoed here. I hate trying to wear heavy gloves, it makes control, especially braking harder. Thin gloves and thin but wind proof bar mitts for the win. - Cheers
Watch the wind-chill charts. When commuting I cover all exposed skin when the National Weather Service's Wind Chill Chart shows equivalent temperatures in the negative range. Recreational riding isn't as straight-line so I can stop and warm up. The charts are frost bite - frost nip is still very painful.
I just saw this review about a month ago….ordered them…what a fine find, Russ. I have used them from 55F to 38F just varying the gloves and they have been just great. Thx!
Best cheapest gloves ever are ,those latex cheap gloves from hospital grade or cleaning you can always carrying many of them ,super light thin inexpensive and they work just like wet suit sistem
I'll keep them in the back of my mind. Out West, it doesn't usually get so cold. My daughter knitted me a pair of woolen Miller gloves that work too well. I have a drum shifter on the right side so poagies probably would not work for me. Still, it is a fantastic idea.
I have a low tolerance for accumulating specialised “stuff” for my cycling, and these would never pass muster. The shame of seeing them cobwebbed on a garage shelf 5 years from now, knowing I only used them twice and could probably have got by without them, would be too much to bear.
Perfect solution to staying on the path through the winter. Thanks Russ! Less for me to concern myself with when planning Nachez Trace ride this coming February.
I've really found that a Porter bag on a rack in the winter helps a lot especially on relaxed rides where I'm on the tops the bag blocks a lot of cold air getting to my hands, granted I barely ride if it's under 5c
Atlas Showa Best 282, Temres insulated gloves. These are lightweight, 100% (not breathable at all, which for people with cold hands works well based on personal experience). They are cheap too. An Andrew Skurka recommendation.
Being from IA, many of us use these. Pogie lites were designed here in IA and is owned by a sole proprietor who is a huge supporter of cycling. They are awesome, get some!
What? I didn't realize Bike Iowa sold merchandise, period! 😬
I have Barr Mitts instead and am currently scratching my head why I haven't put them on my bike yet this November.
What the hell is IA?
The most important thing when it comes to gloves isn't insulation or water protection; it's wind protection.
I live in Norway, and I've ridden all year round in temperatures ranging from -20 to +35 science degrees, and every time I get cold hands it's because of cold, moving air.
I got some cheap wind proof gloves, and they keep me warm enough once it gets colder.
Same, Canada, -20 to -40C winters, I have some all season water/windproof shell mittens that split down the middle, and I just wear a pair of gloves underneath. The all season cycling 3 finger mitts were cheaper for the pair, than a single pogie, and more practical.
I've been using rowing gloves instead of bike specific gloves for the past 3 years. Bike gloves would last around a month or 2 before they start to deteriorate but the rowing gloves, specifically NRS fingerless, have hit 7 or 8 months on my current pair, with similar performance with the previous 3-4 pairs. Just something I've noticed and I'm very happy about. I like good gloves
EDIT:
No glove can withstand a sustained attack from a 4 month old puppy, as I just relearned 🐕
Neoprene does not evaporate moisture and therefore your hands freeze inside through their own water production
I learned it by freezing my feet with socks of the same material, thinking it would be great for biking but it wasn't. Ok fingerless means it's not closed, but having fingers exposed is only good for Florida.
In cold/wet Seattle winters Bar Mitts were a game changer. I don’t wear anything under them down to about freezing. So no bulky gloves on the brakes and shifters. And as a bonus they keep water and crud out of the brake and shift levers. When riding or when parked.
As a road cyclist I was hesitant but your review sold me on these. I just got back from my first ride with these - a 4hr z2 road ride in sub freezing NY weather - and my hands didnt get cold once. With drop bars, you have limited options with the grip positions, but I had full access to the brakes and shifters. I no longer dread longer winter rides thanks to these. No glove has ever been able to keep the chill out for longer than an hour for me. Thanks!
I've been rockin' the Bike Iowa pogie lite's for over a year. They look different than the ones in the video so that may be a newer version. They get 5 stars from me. They were so good that I actually bought two noodles and rewired my Rohloff shifter so that the pogies would work with the grip-shift on my Jones Loop Bar. Great product.
As far as thin full finger gloves go, I use neoprene paddling gloves. Pretty warm and they have a rubberized palms for extra grip.
Do you have the 3mm ones? And what temp do you ride?
@@bgymr9722 i think 3mm, they are on the thicker side of what I found available. Good to around 0°c, maybe a bit colder. My hands don't deal well with cold so others may be better in even cooler temps.
Plus, neoprene, aka wetsuit material, is designed to trap a layer of water which is heated by the bod to keep ya warm.
I have 3mm neoprene cycling gloves and and I find below 5 C unberably cold so ended up putting insulated gloves over the top. I used to use a pogi but I found the a nuisance.
Great review, man! You almost sold them to me - the only thing stopping me is that I’m in Australia, heading into a super hot and clammy Summer and I have no idea why I was so interested in this video. 🤣 You’re very persuasive.
Perth checking in… exact same feeling… damn it Rus.
Haha same, I was watching because the rides to work earlier this year when it was freeze your nuts off cold in Victoria saw me go through a bunch on gloves to try and stop my hands going numb 😂 this might be overkill for Australia flat out though.
@@skartimus I wouldn’t say overkill, I luckily have had these for a little over a year, using them this weekend in the upper 20s and will use them on all outside rides until it hits 60 or so. Not sure on the temps you will be riding in but they are amazingly versatile
oh M8...
I mean yeah 10C is probably the coldest we would expect in aus, except a lil colder some mornings. definitely seems overkill when there's plenty of other solutions that are more flexible year round!
Great video. This and abandoning expensive clipless winter cycling boots for regular boots made winter riding much more pleasant
I put latex gloves (any disposable glove will do) under some cheap neoprene "cycling" gloves, seems like the wrong thing to do but its not sweat that actually cools you down its the sweat evaporating away, the latex prevents it by creating a vapor barrier. Same principle as the old sandwich/bread/potato chip bag trick some hikers and cyclists use for their feet (two pairs of socks with a bag in between). I do like the idea of these though.
I've tried that. Doesn't work in freezing and sub freezing temps for me. The wind just just wraps around individual fingers with no room for warm insulated air.
@@PathLessPedaledTV Works for me but to be fair I don't really suffer that bad with the cold even when its sub freezing. I should have added that I sprayed the "cycling" gloves with that tent waterproofing stuff maybe that keeps the wind out, or maybe I just don't go fast enough to generate any LOL.
Love the Bike Iowa design- the lack of insulation that lets you use the levers even if your hands are outside of the pogie is genius. Keeping the wind off of your hands is much more important than insulation in most applications. A super budget option for low temps is sewing up your own pogies out of an old synthetic sleeping bag. Nice review Russ and hello from Eastern Iowa !!!
It gets down to -40 F where I live so I opted for the neoprene bar mitts.
The only issue I had with them is I had to cut a hole for the bar-end mirror.
You can buy them with a hole but it would cost you $30 more!
When it's wet and cold I use Showa insulated work gloves from Japan. Totally waterproof, excellent grip, and insulated. Get them large and you can even fit a thin wool liner inside, if needed for really cold days. I found them online for about $12 bucks a pair and I'm on my second season in them. Nothing else I've tried is as totally waterproof.
These things are amazing.
Where to get gloves you talk about, please send link
As someone who sews their own bikepacking bags, I'm really curious if I could make these. I have a bunch of light and waterproof drybags lying around that I could modify.
Did you self learn how to make stuff? Or how'd you find out to get the materials shapes to cut and sewing etc.
I’d pay for a set
Teach me your bagweaving ways, master.
@@shhhhlemon4936 My father is a supply tech in the Canadian Military and he showed me his ways.
@@NoobieToob TH-cam is an amazing teacher.
These would be perfect for all year riding. Unfortunately the shipping fees to Canada are $38! That's quite steep with an $80 price tag. And then conversion, and then (potential) duty fees. Another great product that's a bit too much on a spendy side for those outside of the US (unless, of course, money is not a consideration).
I hear you. Duty can be a bitch. Looks like a simple design. Maybe find someone with some sewing skills?
Good solution. Another tip is to have your arms be as warm as possible. I wear an extra layer of arm warmers to keep the blood going into the hands as warm as possible. Warming the hands is really inefficient.
As a London cycle courier, I totally endorse this video. I don't use the product in the video but a pair of muffs meant for motorcycles which are fur lined. I never get cold hands even in minus temperatures. The only proviso is that to do it my way, you'll need a flat bar bike.
Also, don't spend money on expensive gloves, most large stores stock cheap thinsulate ski gloves that are warmer.
Gosh, this review made me pull out my old motorcycle Hippo Hands. Looks like I can get them to fit drop bars easy with full use of drops and hoods. Wonder how effective they'll be with the larger opening though.
I use snowmobile ones on my e-mtb to close up the bar side opening I use a strip of dual sided velcro and I don't get air infiltration until about 40 mph air speed
You can get all kinds of winter cycling gloves at your local hardware store for less than half the price of buying cycling gloves. I paid about $20 for the insulated leather gloves I bought at Home Depot. I ride in 15-30*F temps all the time with these gloves and I have been using them for a few years. I don't use pogies.
I was going to say that too, or even better, wholesale construction equipment sites online, there definitely is a "bicycle tax" where can pay 2-4 times as much.
There is a point when a glove (as defined as a thing with multiple things for your fingers) will not be warm enough. If you live in a place where you can get away with gloves, then awesome. If you live in a place with real winter, good luck.
@@PathLessPedaledTV True, I believe the Eskimos have used mittens since the dawn of history, there's something to be said for ancient traditions (like rim brakes)
Ive tried several kinds of pogies and bar mitts. The neoprene ones are easiest to get my hands in and out of on the drops. Pogies of all kinds on MTB bars tend to flop around more. I wear fleece lined leather mitts when it's below 20 degrees F or windstopper fleece from 20-30 F, above that it's Endura windstopper gloves with bar mitts. All of my winter bikes are singlespeed for ease of maintenance and consistent reliable operation with road salt and crud.
I used the lobster claw gloves with hand warmers when temps got below freezing, but that was my limit. Now I live in Phoenix so that's a distant memory 🙂
Lobster claws rock! But they do not make shifting easy.
I've always had good luck with insulated work gloves from Home Depot or Lowes. $15-20 a pair and if something happens to them, you are not out a ton of $$$.
Considered them many times but haven't sat down and worked through the issues. This was really helpful.
Whoa. I know pogies from kayaking, have seen them on flat bar bikes, but couldn’t imagine them working on drop bars. This could be life-altering for my cycling pals with Reynaud’s Syndrome. Thanks much.
I use skiing gloves, I think made of kevlar or similar materials. Very thin & light weight, breathable, waterproof and protect against cold. You can also wear summer gloves underneath. No need for linnet. But you can also get skiing silk liner. All cheap 2nd hand from people who went on skiing holiday once.
For 20-30F rides I've used basic marmot mid-weight gloves with a merino liner. Works down to mid-30s then I tape hand warmers to my palms. Worked great in mid-20s.
These Pogie's seem a lot easier! Plus, I stop and take pix a lot, so taking off layers is a pita.
Ive also used Klim winter dual-sport gloves. They are warm but bulky.
Looking at Hestra gloves + merino liners bc I can also use them for snowboarding/snowshoeing. Knowing me I will probably get he Pogies too!
Bought these last year and my experience [ I have VERY large hands] is similar to yours BUT they are a bit restrictive when cinched tight around wrists to keep the cold out.
Nitrile gloves under neoprene works.....and btw... a little pepper in your sox keep feet warm
I like pogies, but I prefer to use wool gloves on the inside, because wool helps a lot with moisture management and stays warm even when wet. The plastic gloves get my hands clammy.
Been motorcycling and biking since the 70's and bar mitts are the only thing guaranteed to keep hands dry. Less of a problem now I'm an old git and don't have to commute!
being a cheapskate I got the snowmobiler ones, priced right but better sutied for single digit or below zero temps.
Mike - I went the same route initially, but the I found the extra bulk and insulation unnecessary for most of the fatbiking I do here in Iowa. I've personally used these down into the single digits last year with no issues.
Function is often more important than design. I like the Pogies.
I'm sure those Pogies work better that gloves and even better in combination with gloves. But seing them I can't avoid the imagination to have my hands stuck at them while falling down and that imagination is really scary. Probably the hands will not be completly stuck in them, but when falling even half a second for getting the hands out of the Pogies can make a big difference.
Maybe it doesnt scare most other people that much, because they dont fall with their bikes. But after finding myself laying beside my bike 5 times during the last 2 years, it would be a bit bold to call it unlikely to happen.
Hello Montana cyclist! Thanks for the tip. I'm still cycling here in Helena. It's been so warm my ski gloves still work. Last weekend I went trail riding one day and ski'd the next day.
Had these and the showers pass crosspoint gloves since shortly after this video. Love both items and even in January….in Iowa they work great for my 8 mile commute. It was 23 today and while I wouldn’t have wanted to go long distance with this setup without a better glove option, the pogies are so slick.
A even cheaper and easier solution is your typical surgical gloves underneath another pair of cycling gloves, works like a charm.
Cheaper and easier but doesn’t work for Montana winter.
Lol I've been wearing plastic food bags held on with elastic reflective wristbands- looks terrible but keeps my ski gloves bone dry and doesn't stop me accessing my vintage between-your-knees friction shifter in a hurry.
Thin nitrile gloves as wind/vapor barrier. Work gloves (Mechanix-esque) for overs, good for down to near freezing, but if your hands sweat a lot not exactly comfortable. Or at least that's what works for me.
I was just thinking the same thing
I'm a sweaty guy riding in Seattle. I only have two options in the rain. Get wet from the outside or the inside of the gloves. I'm really looking into these but my commuter bike has bar end shifters.
Yes ... thin nitrile under a light weight glove (fleece or nylon shell material) work well in the upper 30's - 50's temp range
@@Outsideville I've done it for rides, I've done it for work. When it's cold, wet, and windy I'll run them without hesitation.
@@willgo7898 as a bonus, if you go to fix your chain, you can toss the gloves after. Major flex
For folks thinking these aren't "roadie enough", that may be the case looks-wise, but consider how "roadie" you'll feel using your usual half-finger gloves in cold winter weather.
open palm neoprene windsurfing mitts are the best for cycling imo. they cost little, can be flipped up while cycling in case you need your fingers and, most important, stay warm no matter how wet they get.
I live in MN, I've been using two gloves with some overbuilt poagies. My light gloves have been holding up just fine so far. I have an insulated leather pair for below freezing temps. I don't break out the poagies until it's in the single digits tho. Got me through last winter, and I'm committed for this winter as well.
Ordered me a pair of these Pogie Lites last Friday following your previous video and can't wait to give them a try!
Pogies don't have thread breaking friction and insulation cancelling compression like a glove or mitten. I like my winter pogies. The ones featured here remind me of rain gloves.
I've used bar mitts on motorbikes before because they work so well and I'm pleased to see them working on drop bars as I have just converted my old mountain bike to gravel bars. I'm a cheap skate though, so I may go get myself some ripstop fabric and get out the sewing machine. Thank you for the review.
Use 3mm neoprene instead of the rip stop, repels water better and it has a better insulation effect
Gave up on fancy gloves long ago. Try this really cheap trick. Regular short finger cycling gloves and then a pair of jersey gloves, the like $3.00 brown hardware store work gloves. They breath enough you don’t get sweaty hands yet seem to work with your body heat. They aren’t tight. Tight = cold. Best option I’ve found yet. The yellow fuzzy gloves are bit heavier but work too. Yes their downside can be rain.
Had a pair for a year now they are a must once the weather starts to turn.I’ve used in -10 with mid weight gloves and hands stayed warm worth every penny, just ordered the girlfriend a pair.
Love those! The winter ones are great as I can wear a light glove and not get arm pump from smashing a heavily padded glove.
As an MTB rider, I need good gloves with a lot of grip. I still have winter gloves, but I recently bought a pair of Leatt Subzero XLs that only cost $12. That's really not much and a great price. You just have to look for offers and because you have others, you don't have any pressure
You have incredible solutions radar, Russ. Thanks for the review. I hesitated on buying the Bar Mitts but could get with these. In the meanwhile I’ve been having really good success with my People’s Poncho which hooks right over the lever blades and keeps my hands really toasty in addition to letting me wear normal, breathable non waterproof stuff underneath.
Interesting product - I used pogies for years when sea kayaking. I never knew you could get them for cycling! They are available for motorcycles but I found them dangerous but these look much better.
I used pogies on my straight bar Cannondale mountain bike that I used for my winter bike for several years. Last two years I have used pogies on my straight bar electric assist Gazelle. In both cases they made a world of difference. Love your review of the pogie lights for drop bars. Looks like an awesome option.
If you keep your core and arms warm, lightweight but windproof gloves (like Gore Infinium) are fine some way below 10C, and I say that as someone affected by Raynaud's syndrome.
You don't even necessarily need a pogie, you can use a mitten shell, which is the same except stuck to your hand. REI sells a pair of gortex mittenshells that are awesome. Other companies do too, but they get expensive. Pair with your expensive cycling gloves, or much cheaper fleece wool liner gloves. If it's cold add more fluffy insulation in the form of more gloves. Pretty simple, and you can use them for skiing or hiking or whatever else.
I’ve tried mitten shells. Pogies work better IME and you have more dexterity.
I have neoprene pogies and use them without gloves most of the time. It's good for all four seasons in Auckland, New Zealand, including without gloves.
Whoa! $80? This is definitely not an impulse spend. I'll have to plan for this purchase in advance. My commutes tend to be two hours in the winter and freezing rain is a constant during the winter in Cleveland. I do have bar mitts that I use when the weather gets cold but when there is 20 to 30 degree difference between the morning temperature and the afternoon temperature, the bar mitts can sometimes be too hot. They can be annoying having to put them on in the morning then removing them in the afternoon because it is too warm. Or vice versa. The Pogie Lites could be a nice alternative.
Mittens outperform gloves because fingers warm each other when they touch. I only use mittens at - 15 Celsius or colder . I usually don't bike below - 10 .
The 3 finger lobster claw mittens cheaper for the pair than one pogie, and they're more practical for other uses, like keeping your hands warm when you get off the bike. Just make sure they're windproof, then you can wear some thin gloves with good dexterity or even some battery heated glove liners underneath them (depending how cold). You have to take pogies off and put them on every time you lock up, and if you have other accessories like a bike computer or saddle bags to remove, this just adds to the time it takes to mount and dismount at the rack.
I just leave the pogies on. No one knows or cares about whether they are.
Thanks! Please do another video on lower temps, say 30, 20, 10 and 0, and if it's as easy to carry snacks and other gloves in it as other stiffer pogies, or if its too baggy. Other reviews show it works on mountain bike flat bars in articles with pictures only, but please add this to show it on flat bars in video. Thanks!
I used to live in Japan and these hand protector products are quite common on cheap bikes used around the neighborhood.
Pearl Izumi made 3 finger mits which was good but since they changed the pattern of this model (Amfib Lobster Gel Gloves) they are no longer as effective. In part because they no longer offer a real XXL ,all their size shrink and if there no room for larger hand it will not be hot inside.
Thin is interesting, but I have RockBrothers bar mits, 2 more points they can keep battery packs warmer for bike lights, also for cooler weather -10°c iron oxide heat packs keep your hands toasty!
I got Bar Mitts for road bars worth every dime ... OK aero was a surprise, use gauntlet gloves below freezing & on studded tires for icy roads, 8sp Salsa Journeyman 700c wheels, gotta 12-42t/50-34 luv it 🍺
I wear wool mittens and cheap polyester wind proof mittens over that. Don’t feel the cold when it’s -15 C or colder outside.
Bike Iowa pogies! Yes!!! These are awesome and worth every single dime! I wear mine with a pair of military surplus wool gloves, and they're awesome. Fits my Jones H bars perfectly too.
I been looking for light weight pogies for Vancouver rain, how do they hold up in rainy conditions? Also glad to hear they fit Jones Bars
From my experience, they do decent. Light rain they do awesome. Haven't had them on it a huge downpour or anything.
Kelly, do you run the Jones Loop H bar?
@@NigelsJourneys yes, sure do!
I nearly got frostbite on my fingers last winter even though I was riding with thick, windproof gloves. That's when I decided I needed something better, so I bought some Wolf Tooth Pogies which have been wonderful. Now I can wear thin gloves, or even fingerless gloves and still have toasty warm hands.
Pogies work. It's astounding how well they work. Truly.
The only concern is when you fall. Good luck trying taking the hand from there to protect your face/body from the fall. Similar if you go down the stairs with the hands in your pocket(face/teeth will be affected)
Another suggestion, for gloves or even cold weather/waterproof socks, look for products marketed for snowmobiling. Same products, lower prices.
Used these since the 80's - and the idea is much older. These are nice because they are light and seem less stiff than most others.
Could you review the Bar Mitts road bike Dual position pogies? They look like they would allow you to switch between the hoods and drops without taking your hands out of the pogies.
Invented by Basic Active Wear from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, back in 1997, original name were "handlebar mittens" later on the name was changed, I'm not sure who changed it.
It is useless in town because You have to signal moving eg. turn, overtake etc. or has free hands to other "stuff".
This seems to be more suitable for multi-day trips or places that are too cold. Though, I think dutch commuters use these as well.
In Germany, we rarely we go subzero and if it rains during a ride, a train station is close enough to get back home asap.
Because the pogies are more flexible, they look to be a little more finikey to get in and out of. The Bar Mitts are neoprene, and are therefore stiffer, so entry/exit is easy, and they work like a champ. I agree that they work WAY better than heavy gloves, though. Thin gloves and Bar Mitts have done the job for me down into the teens for temperature, I’m a roadie, so I rarely go out in colder weather than that, since wind chill on my face while riding gets to be too much at anything below about 15-18 Deg F
Pogies really work. Boston commuter in 10 degree to negative temps. Always surprised by how well they work. Minor annoyance with setup.
Ive found insulated gloves good down to 16F, but when/if I ever ride in colder weather I’ll have to get some of these
These, something similar, or some improvised equivalent, are used by just about every NYC bike delivery person once the temperature drops.
I got the special ones for my road bike with it’s old style cable out the side of the hoods. I will need another set for my Brompton if I am to ride through the winter.
Bought a pair of Carhartt. Work great for temps down to 25F. Wind proof but not water proof. $30.
Is this the one designed by Steve Redmond, former Seattle bike cop who created these type in 97-99 I'm pretty sure. Then work awesome, he started it for flat bars since Seattle was the first to mass adopt MTN bike for patrols. They were sponsored by Raleigh. He didn't make them for drop bars for quotes while. It doesn't get that cold in temp in Seattle but with British type rain and constant wind. 40 and wind/rain is older than riding in Utah at -7*f in Utah.
P.S I hate autocorrect
Really interesting! Might try out these on my gravel bike. I have very nice warm gloves, but if the ride exceeds a few hours, even these get cold. A nice side effect of the pogies for me would be, that I don’t need to take off layers of gloves to be able to use my hands.
Great review Russ! I am into my 4th pair of so called waterproof gloves in 3 years so I am jumping on these right now :) Canadian winters can be just as terrible as they get so I'm willing to try anything to keep me dry and warm year round.
I'll gladly give my money to a fellow cyclist
thanks and hello from up north
10/22 cannot find Pogie lites anymore. Link dead. Only Bar Mitts brand. I kind of liked the thinner less looking like a bullhorn type. Dang
I have various weight winter gloves from Costco. Nothing fancy or expensive. Here in Colorado I have ridden in single digit temps, but almost always dry or snowy, which is the same as dry.
Is the Pogie company still in business? I tried the link in the description but it doesn’t bring up a website.
Theres already a depressing amount of snow out here. Unfortunately for where I am there is no winter riding. The season ends in December and wont start again until February/March.
If you’ve ever stocked frozen food, you know this trick. Wear vinyl or latex gloves underneath your regular gloves.
My choice is mechanics gloves. Thin nylon with light rubber on the grip side. For price I buy them at Ace hardware as their name brand.
I thought handlebar mitts are the first option recommended to keep the hands warm on a bike in cold weather.
I crashed multiple times on my bikes, often when road conditions were froozen or wet. Being able to move my hands quickly to save my cranium from hitting the ground seems more important to me , so i´ll stick to wearing two pairs of gloves.
Well it does take like 5 minutes of riding to figure it out.
45 North Pogies are more rigid. I can, and have, gotten in and out in microseconds. Pogies don't need to be really tight. They need to block wind. Do what makes you comfortable.
Over the probably 15 years I’ve used them, I’ve only crashed a couple times with a bar mitts-equipped road bike, but many times on mountain bikes, and in all cases, the BarMitts were a total non issue, hands naturally slip out.
Wind proof is the key. In recent tests of my own for upper body, I did 2 rides.
I wore a t-shirt, a very heavy poly fleece long sleeve sweat shirt and a medium weight hoodie. I could feel the cold air penetration through the hoodies zipper right away. My arms felt cool. I peddled hard enough to stay warm but could always feel the cold air.
The second ride I ditched the heavy fleece, and just went t-shirt, same hoodie, then 100% wind proof, single ply jacket. Instantly knew this was better.
Of course it was not unexpected, but I wanted to look at my options, as this year is the first time I have decided to ride all winter. Cutting the wind makes a world of difference, and I definitely want to look in to these demoed here. I hate trying to wear heavy gloves, it makes control, especially braking harder.
Thin gloves and thin but wind proof bar mitts for the win. - Cheers
Watch the wind-chill charts. When commuting I cover all exposed skin when the National Weather Service's Wind Chill Chart shows equivalent temperatures in the negative range. Recreational riding isn't as straight-line so I can stop and warm up. The charts are frost bite - frost nip is still very painful.
I just saw this review about a month ago….ordered them…what a fine find, Russ. I have used them from 55F to 38F just varying the gloves and they have been just great. Thx!
Best cheapest gloves ever are ,those latex cheap gloves from hospital grade or cleaning you can always carrying many of them ,super light thin inexpensive and they work just like wet suit sistem
Great video review- many thanks. The Pogielites are currently "SOLD OUT" but I signed up for the waitlist.
I'll keep them in the back of my mind. Out West, it doesn't usually get so cold. My daughter knitted me a pair of woolen Miller gloves that work too well. I have a drum shifter on the right side so poagies probably would not work for me. Still, it is a fantastic idea.
I've used Barr mitts for years same results. Ice if they'd make foot ones. My feet freeze
You can get neoprene zip boot shaped shoe covers by Endura or Chinese knockoffs. They are very useful when slushing shit it is flying
Rode all winter through Detroit. Thankfully it’s very dry & liners work awesome. Might invest in one of them for New Orleans, though.
I have a low tolerance for accumulating specialised “stuff” for my cycling, and these would never pass muster. The shame of seeing them cobwebbed on a garage shelf 5 years from now, knowing I only used them twice and could probably have got by without them, would be too much to bear.
I have a low tolerance for frozen extremities while riding.
Perfect solution to staying on the path through the winter. Thanks Russ! Less for me to concern myself with when planning Nachez Trace ride this coming February.
I've really found that a Porter bag on a rack in the winter helps a lot especially on relaxed rides where I'm on the tops the bag blocks a lot of cold air getting to my hands, granted I barely ride if it's under 5c
Atlas Showa Best 282, Temres insulated gloves. These are lightweight, 100% (not breathable at all, which for people with cold hands works well based on personal experience). They are cheap too. An Andrew Skurka recommendation.
Yeah. Reviewed those. These work better. th-cam.com/video/MUfKmDqbZ2Q/w-d-xo.html