As a road cyclist I was hesitant but your review sold me on these. I just got back from my first ride with these - a 4hr z2 road ride in sub freezing NY weather - and my hands didnt get cold once. With drop bars, you have limited options with the grip positions, but I had full access to the brakes and shifters. I no longer dread longer winter rides thanks to these. No glove has ever been able to keep the chill out for longer than an hour for me. Thanks!
Being from IA, many of us use these. Pogie lites were designed here in IA and is owned by a sole proprietor who is a huge supporter of cycling. They are awesome, get some!
What? I didn't realize Bike Iowa sold merchandise, period! 😬 I have Barr Mitts instead and am currently scratching my head why I haven't put them on my bike yet this November.
Great review, man! You almost sold them to me - the only thing stopping me is that I’m in Australia, heading into a super hot and clammy Summer and I have no idea why I was so interested in this video. 🤣 You’re very persuasive.
Haha same, I was watching because the rides to work earlier this year when it was freeze your nuts off cold in Victoria saw me go through a bunch on gloves to try and stop my hands going numb 😂 this might be overkill for Australia flat out though.
@@skartimus I wouldn’t say overkill, I luckily have had these for a little over a year, using them this weekend in the upper 20s and will use them on all outside rides until it hits 60 or so. Not sure on the temps you will be riding in but they are amazingly versatile
I mean yeah 10C is probably the coldest we would expect in aus, except a lil colder some mornings. definitely seems overkill when there's plenty of other solutions that are more flexible year round!
The most important thing when it comes to gloves isn't insulation or water protection; it's wind protection. I live in Norway, and I've ridden all year round in temperatures ranging from -20 to +35 science degrees, and every time I get cold hands it's because of cold, moving air. I got some cheap wind proof gloves, and they keep me warm enough once it gets colder.
Same, Canada, -20 to -40C winters, I have some all season water/windproof shell mittens that split down the middle, and I just wear a pair of gloves underneath. The all season cycling 3 finger mitts were cheaper for the pair, than a single pogie, and more practical.
Love the Bike Iowa design- the lack of insulation that lets you use the levers even if your hands are outside of the pogie is genius. Keeping the wind off of your hands is much more important than insulation in most applications. A super budget option for low temps is sewing up your own pogies out of an old synthetic sleeping bag. Nice review Russ and hello from Eastern Iowa !!!
In cold/wet Seattle winters Bar Mitts were a game changer. I don’t wear anything under them down to about freezing. So no bulky gloves on the brakes and shifters. And as a bonus they keep water and crud out of the brake and shift levers. When riding or when parked.
@@bgymr9722 i think 3mm, they are on the thicker side of what I found available. Good to around 0°c, maybe a bit colder. My hands don't deal well with cold so others may be better in even cooler temps.
I have 3mm neoprene cycling gloves and and I find below 5 C unberably cold so ended up putting insulated gloves over the top. I used to use a pogi but I found the a nuisance.
❤Just a follow up…I got these on your suggestion and they are now in their 2nd season….just wonderful with the right glove or mix of layers. I have used the lobster in and out of the pogie lites but neither works for me, as they are not large enough for my hands. The problem is that, after 45 minutes or so, the lack of circulation causes the cold to set in with or without the wind breaking effect of the pogies. At 35F I find that a liner glove with something like the Showerpass over the liner is perfect for 1.5 to 2 hrs. Thx so much!
I've been rockin' the Bike Iowa pogie lite's for over a year. They look different than the ones in the video so that may be a newer version. They get 5 stars from me. They were so good that I actually bought two noodles and rewired my Rohloff shifter so that the pogies would work with the grip-shift on my Jones Loop Bar. Great product.
When it's wet and cold I use Showa insulated work gloves from Japan. Totally waterproof, excellent grip, and insulated. Get them large and you can even fit a thin wool liner inside, if needed for really cold days. I found them online for about $12 bucks a pair and I'm on my second season in them. Nothing else I've tried is as totally waterproof.
Whoa. I know pogies from kayaking, have seen them on flat bar bikes, but couldn’t imagine them working on drop bars. This could be life-altering for my cycling pals with Reynaud’s Syndrome. Thanks much.
I used the lobster claw gloves with hand warmers when temps got below freezing, but that was my limit. Now I live in Phoenix so that's a distant memory 🙂
These would be perfect for all year riding. Unfortunately the shipping fees to Canada are $38! That's quite steep with an $80 price tag. And then conversion, and then (potential) duty fees. Another great product that's a bit too much on a spendy side for those outside of the US (unless, of course, money is not a consideration).
If you mean latax/plastic gloves they don't work because of sweat as they don't breathe, they are also too close fitting to allow the hands to warn up. I'm glad it works for you but for the majority it would only work for a few minutes.
Hello Montana cyclist! Thanks for the tip. I'm still cycling here in Helena. It's been so warm my ski gloves still work. Last weekend I went trail riding one day and ski'd the next day.
It gets down to -40 F where I live so I opted for the neoprene bar mitts. The only issue I had with them is I had to cut a hole for the bar-end mirror. You can buy them with a hole but it would cost you $30 more!
Had these and the showers pass crosspoint gloves since shortly after this video. Love both items and even in January….in Iowa they work great for my 8 mile commute. It was 23 today and while I wouldn’t have wanted to go long distance with this setup without a better glove option, the pogies are so slick.
Been motorcycling and biking since the 70's and bar mitts are the only thing guaranteed to keep hands dry. Less of a problem now I'm an old git and don't have to commute!
Good solution. Another tip is to have your arms be as warm as possible. I wear an extra layer of arm warmers to keep the blood going into the hands as warm as possible. Warming the hands is really inefficient.
Bike Iowa pogies! Yes!!! These are awesome and worth every single dime! I wear mine with a pair of military surplus wool gloves, and they're awesome. Fits my Jones H bars perfectly too.
As a London cycle courier, I totally endorse this video. I don't use the product in the video but a pair of muffs meant for motorcycles which are fur lined. I never get cold hands even in minus temperatures. The only proviso is that to do it my way, you'll need a flat bar bike. Also, don't spend money on expensive gloves, most large stores stock cheap thinsulate ski gloves that are warmer.
Ive tried several kinds of pogies and bar mitts. The neoprene ones are easiest to get my hands in and out of on the drops. Pogies of all kinds on MTB bars tend to flop around more. I wear fleece lined leather mitts when it's below 20 degrees F or windstopper fleece from 20-30 F, above that it's Endura windstopper gloves with bar mitts. All of my winter bikes are singlespeed for ease of maintenance and consistent reliable operation with road salt and crud.
Gosh, this review made me pull out my old motorcycle Hippo Hands. Looks like I can get them to fit drop bars easy with full use of drops and hoods. Wonder how effective they'll be with the larger opening though.
I use snowmobile ones on my e-mtb to close up the bar side opening I use a strip of dual sided velcro and I don't get air infiltration until about 40 mph air speed
I've used bar mitts on motorbikes before because they work so well and I'm pleased to see them working on drop bars as I have just converted my old mountain bike to gravel bars. I'm a cheap skate though, so I may go get myself some ripstop fabric and get out the sewing machine. Thank you for the review.
I've always had good luck with insulated work gloves from Home Depot or Lowes. $15-20 a pair and if something happens to them, you are not out a ton of $$$.
I use skiing gloves, I think made of kevlar or similar materials. Very thin & light weight, breathable, waterproof and protect against cold. You can also wear summer gloves underneath. No need for linnet. But you can also get skiing silk liner. All cheap 2nd hand from people who went on skiing holiday once.
For 20-30F rides I've used basic marmot mid-weight gloves with a merino liner. Works down to mid-30s then I tape hand warmers to my palms. Worked great in mid-20s. These Pogie's seem a lot easier! Plus, I stop and take pix a lot, so taking off layers is a pita. Ive also used Klim winter dual-sport gloves. They are warm but bulky. Looking at Hestra gloves + merino liners bc I can also use them for snowboarding/snowshoeing. Knowing me I will probably get he Pogies too!
I'm sure those Pogies work better that gloves and even better in combination with gloves. But seing them I can't avoid the imagination to have my hands stuck at them while falling down and that imagination is really scary. Probably the hands will not be completly stuck in them, but when falling even half a second for getting the hands out of the Pogies can make a big difference. Maybe it doesnt scare most other people that much, because they dont fall with their bikes. But after finding myself laying beside my bike 5 times during the last 2 years, it would be a bit bold to call it unlikely to happen.
I used pogies on my straight bar Cannondale mountain bike that I used for my winter bike for several years. Last two years I have used pogies on my straight bar electric assist Gazelle. In both cases they made a world of difference. Love your review of the pogie lights for drop bars. Looks like an awesome option.
Pogies DO keep your hands warm. BUT. If you are off-road snow riding, which means you WILL be falling, you won't be able to break your low speed falls - you just can't reflex your hands out.
You can with practice. NO ONE racing expedition fat bike events like the Iditabike uses gloves. That’s frostbite suicide. Somehow they manage 100s of miles with pogies.
@@PathLessPedaledTV Maybe YOU can get out, God BLESS yer Little Heart. I CAN'T. Who is going to practice falling down??? I am talking about off-roading with obstacles, tight switchbacks, etc. The film I've seen of Iditabike ain't that. Just snowmobile trails. Suffering to be sure, but it's not technical and pogies are fine for that. Apple, meet orange.
@@PathLessPedaledTV I'm well acquainted with clipless pedals, thanks. They are not clipless SOCKS which is basically what pogies are to your hands. But NICE TRY anyway! Pogies have their place -- in non-technical, low-crash probability riding. But you'll have all the crash mitigating capability of walking in a box with your arms in it.
Over the probably 15 years I’ve used BarMitts, I’ve crashed many times on mountain bikes in winter when riding “technical” terrain, at all speeds, and in all cases, the BarMitts were a total non issue, hands naturally slip out. Try it before ya knock it. (-:
For folks thinking these aren't "roadie enough", that may be the case looks-wise, but consider how "roadie" you'll feel using your usual half-finger gloves in cold winter weather.
As someone who sews their own bikepacking bags, I'm really curious if I could make these. I have a bunch of light and waterproof drybags lying around that I could modify.
I've been using rowing gloves instead of bike specific gloves for the past 3 years. Bike gloves would last around a month or 2 before they start to deteriorate but the rowing gloves, specifically NRS fingerless, have hit 7 or 8 months on my current pair, with similar performance with the previous 3-4 pairs. Just something I've noticed and I'm very happy about. I like good gloves EDIT: No glove can withstand a sustained attack from a 4 month old puppy, as I just relearned 🐕
Neoprene does not evaporate moisture and therefore your hands freeze inside through their own water production I learned it by freezing my feet with socks of the same material, thinking it would be great for biking but it wasn't. Ok fingerless means it's not closed, but having fingers exposed is only good for Florida.
Thin nitrile gloves as wind/vapor barrier. Work gloves (Mechanix-esque) for overs, good for down to near freezing, but if your hands sweat a lot not exactly comfortable. Or at least that's what works for me.
I'm a sweaty guy riding in Seattle. I only have two options in the rain. Get wet from the outside or the inside of the gloves. I'm really looking into these but my commuter bike has bar end shifters.
I live in MN, I've been using two gloves with some overbuilt poagies. My light gloves have been holding up just fine so far. I have an insulated leather pair for below freezing temps. I don't break out the poagies until it's in the single digits tho. Got me through last winter, and I'm committed for this winter as well.
I got Bar Mitts for road bars worth every dime ... OK aero was a surprise, use gauntlet gloves below freezing & on studded tires for icy roads, 8sp Salsa Journeyman 700c wheels, gotta 12-42t/50-34 luv it 🍺
Interesting product - I used pogies for years when sea kayaking. I never knew you could get them for cycling! They are available for motorcycles but I found them dangerous but these look much better.
Had a pair for a year now they are a must once the weather starts to turn.I’ve used in -10 with mid weight gloves and hands stayed warm worth every penny, just ordered the girlfriend a pair.
You have incredible solutions radar, Russ. Thanks for the review. I hesitated on buying the Bar Mitts but could get with these. In the meanwhile I’ve been having really good success with my People’s Poncho which hooks right over the lever blades and keeps my hands really toasty in addition to letting me wear normal, breathable non waterproof stuff underneath.
Mike - I went the same route initially, but the I found the extra bulk and insulation unnecessary for most of the fatbiking I do here in Iowa. I've personally used these down into the single digits last year with no issues.
I have a pair of Barmits, and yes, they are effective, I use them on my drop bar road bike. The problem I have is it locks your hand in that single position, inside the Barmit, holding on to the shifter, and it gets uncomfortable not being about to move my hands around the bar.
Pogies don't have thread breaking friction and insulation cancelling compression like a glove or mitten. I like my winter pogies. The ones featured here remind me of rain gloves.
You don't even necessarily need a pogie, you can use a mitten shell, which is the same except stuck to your hand. REI sells a pair of gortex mittenshells that are awesome. Other companies do too, but they get expensive. Pair with your expensive cycling gloves, or much cheaper fleece wool liner gloves. If it's cold add more fluffy insulation in the form of more gloves. Pretty simple, and you can use them for skiing or hiking or whatever else.
The 3 finger lobster claw mittens cheaper for the pair than one pogie, and they're more practical for other uses, like keeping your hands warm when you get off the bike. Just make sure they're windproof, then you can wear some thin gloves with good dexterity or even some battery heated glove liners underneath them (depending how cold). You have to take pogies off and put them on every time you lock up, and if you have other accessories like a bike computer or saddle bags to remove, this just adds to the time it takes to mount and dismount at the rack.
Great review Russ! I am into my 4th pair of so called waterproof gloves in 3 years so I am jumping on these right now :) Canadian winters can be just as terrible as they get so I'm willing to try anything to keep me dry and warm year round. I'll gladly give my money to a fellow cyclist thanks and hello from up north
open palm neoprene windsurfing mitts are the best for cycling imo. they cost little, can be flipped up while cycling in case you need your fingers and, most important, stay warm no matter how wet they get.
Lol I've been wearing plastic food bags held on with elastic reflective wristbands- looks terrible but keeps my ski gloves bone dry and doesn't stop me accessing my vintage between-your-knees friction shifter in a hurry.
I have neoprene pogies and use them without gloves most of the time. It's good for all four seasons in Auckland, New Zealand, including without gloves.
I crashed multiple times on my bikes, often when road conditions were froozen or wet. Being able to move my hands quickly to save my cranium from hitting the ground seems more important to me , so i´ll stick to wearing two pairs of gloves.
45 North Pogies are more rigid. I can, and have, gotten in and out in microseconds. Pogies don't need to be really tight. They need to block wind. Do what makes you comfortable.
Over the probably 15 years I’ve used them, I’ve only crashed a couple times with a bar mitts-equipped road bike, but many times on mountain bikes, and in all cases, the BarMitts were a total non issue, hands naturally slip out.
I like pogies, but I prefer to use wool gloves on the inside, because wool helps a lot with moisture management and stays warm even when wet. The plastic gloves get my hands clammy.
Thin is interesting, but I have RockBrothers bar mits, 2 more points they can keep battery packs warmer for bike lights, also for cooler weather -10°c iron oxide heat packs keep your hands toasty!
Thanks! Please do another video on lower temps, say 30, 20, 10 and 0, and if it's as easy to carry snacks and other gloves in it as other stiffer pogies, or if its too baggy. Other reviews show it works on mountain bike flat bars in articles with pictures only, but please add this to show it on flat bars in video. Thanks!
Bought these last year and my experience [ I have VERY large hands] is similar to yours BUT they are a bit restrictive when cinched tight around wrists to keep the cold out.
Gave up on fancy gloves long ago. Try this really cheap trick. Regular short finger cycling gloves and then a pair of jersey gloves, the like $3.00 brown hardware store work gloves. They breath enough you don’t get sweaty hands yet seem to work with your body heat. They aren’t tight. Tight = cold. Best option I’ve found yet. The yellow fuzzy gloves are bit heavier but work too. Yes their downside can be rain.
I nearly got frostbite on my fingers last winter even though I was riding with thick, windproof gloves. That's when I decided I needed something better, so I bought some Wolf Tooth Pogies which have been wonderful. Now I can wear thin gloves, or even fingerless gloves and still have toasty warm hands.
If you keep your core and arms warm, lightweight but windproof gloves (like Gore Infinium) are fine some way below 10C, and I say that as someone affected by Raynaud's syndrome.
You can get all kinds of winter cycling gloves at your local hardware store for less than half the price of buying cycling gloves. I paid about $20 for the insulated leather gloves I bought at Home Depot. I ride in 15-30*F temps all the time with these gloves and I have been using them for a few years. I don't use pogies.
I was going to say that too, or even better, wholesale construction equipment sites online, there definitely is a "bicycle tax" where can pay 2-4 times as much.
There is a point when a glove (as defined as a thing with multiple things for your fingers) will not be warm enough. If you live in a place where you can get away with gloves, then awesome. If you live in a place with real winter, good luck.
@@PathLessPedaledTV True, I believe the Eskimos have used mittens since the dawn of history, there's something to be said for ancient traditions (like rim brakes)
Perfect solution to staying on the path through the winter. Thanks Russ! Less for me to concern myself with when planning Nachez Trace ride this coming February.
As an MTB rider, I need good gloves with a lot of grip. I still have winter gloves, but I recently bought a pair of Leatt Subzero XLs that only cost $12. That's really not much and a great price. You just have to look for offers and because you have others, you don't have any pressure
Whoa! $80? This is definitely not an impulse spend. I'll have to plan for this purchase in advance. My commutes tend to be two hours in the winter and freezing rain is a constant during the winter in Cleveland. I do have bar mitts that I use when the weather gets cold but when there is 20 to 30 degree difference between the morning temperature and the afternoon temperature, the bar mitts can sometimes be too hot. They can be annoying having to put them on in the morning then removing them in the afternoon because it is too warm. Or vice versa. The Pogie Lites could be a nice alternative.
Mittens outperform gloves because fingers warm each other when they touch. I only use mittens at - 15 Celsius or colder . I usually don't bike below - 10 .
Is this the one designed by Steve Redmond, former Seattle bike cop who created these type in 97-99 I'm pretty sure. Then work awesome, he started it for flat bars since Seattle was the first to mass adopt MTN bike for patrols. They were sponsored by Raleigh. He didn't make them for drop bars for quotes while. It doesn't get that cold in temp in Seattle but with British type rain and constant wind. 40 and wind/rain is older than riding in Utah at -7*f in Utah.
Pearl Izumi made 3 finger mits which was good but since they changed the pattern of this model (Amfib Lobster Gel Gloves) they are no longer as effective. In part because they no longer offer a real XXL ,all their size shrink and if there no room for larger hand it will not be hot inside.
The only concern is when you fall. Good luck trying taking the hand from there to protect your face/body from the fall. Similar if you go down the stairs with the hands in your pocket(face/teeth will be affected)
Invented by Basic Active Wear from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, back in 1997, original name were "handlebar mittens" later on the name was changed, I'm not sure who changed it.
One time I wanted to go to chipotle and didn't have a car and it was like 0° outside so I rode my scooter with no gloves. It was like 2 miles away and as soon as I got outside, my hands went numb and the entire time riding there. I could not feel my hands. I got there and my hands were soooo cold. After like 30 minutes, I could feel sensitivity in my hands again but I felt sooo much pain in my fingers. I was so scared. My face also turned white and I felt like i was going to pass out. I sat on the floor and I went deaf almost for like 30 minutes. It was horrible. My brother was with me and he gave me a bandana so I wrapped it around my hand and rode home one handed and the bandana kept my hand warm
As a road cyclist I was hesitant but your review sold me on these. I just got back from my first ride with these - a 4hr z2 road ride in sub freezing NY weather - and my hands didnt get cold once. With drop bars, you have limited options with the grip positions, but I had full access to the brakes and shifters. I no longer dread longer winter rides thanks to these. No glove has ever been able to keep the chill out for longer than an hour for me. Thanks!
Being from IA, many of us use these. Pogie lites were designed here in IA and is owned by a sole proprietor who is a huge supporter of cycling. They are awesome, get some!
What? I didn't realize Bike Iowa sold merchandise, period! 😬
I have Barr Mitts instead and am currently scratching my head why I haven't put them on my bike yet this November.
What the hell is IA?
Great review, man! You almost sold them to me - the only thing stopping me is that I’m in Australia, heading into a super hot and clammy Summer and I have no idea why I was so interested in this video. 🤣 You’re very persuasive.
Perth checking in… exact same feeling… damn it Rus.
Haha same, I was watching because the rides to work earlier this year when it was freeze your nuts off cold in Victoria saw me go through a bunch on gloves to try and stop my hands going numb 😂 this might be overkill for Australia flat out though.
@@skartimus I wouldn’t say overkill, I luckily have had these for a little over a year, using them this weekend in the upper 20s and will use them on all outside rides until it hits 60 or so. Not sure on the temps you will be riding in but they are amazingly versatile
oh M8...
I mean yeah 10C is probably the coldest we would expect in aus, except a lil colder some mornings. definitely seems overkill when there's plenty of other solutions that are more flexible year round!
The most important thing when it comes to gloves isn't insulation or water protection; it's wind protection.
I live in Norway, and I've ridden all year round in temperatures ranging from -20 to +35 science degrees, and every time I get cold hands it's because of cold, moving air.
I got some cheap wind proof gloves, and they keep me warm enough once it gets colder.
Same, Canada, -20 to -40C winters, I have some all season water/windproof shell mittens that split down the middle, and I just wear a pair of gloves underneath. The all season cycling 3 finger mitts were cheaper for the pair, than a single pogie, and more practical.
Love the Bike Iowa design- the lack of insulation that lets you use the levers even if your hands are outside of the pogie is genius. Keeping the wind off of your hands is much more important than insulation in most applications. A super budget option for low temps is sewing up your own pogies out of an old synthetic sleeping bag. Nice review Russ and hello from Eastern Iowa !!!
In cold/wet Seattle winters Bar Mitts were a game changer. I don’t wear anything under them down to about freezing. So no bulky gloves on the brakes and shifters. And as a bonus they keep water and crud out of the brake and shift levers. When riding or when parked.
Great video. This and abandoning expensive clipless winter cycling boots for regular boots made winter riding much more pleasant
As far as thin full finger gloves go, I use neoprene paddling gloves. Pretty warm and they have a rubberized palms for extra grip.
Do you have the 3mm ones? And what temp do you ride?
@@bgymr9722 i think 3mm, they are on the thicker side of what I found available. Good to around 0°c, maybe a bit colder. My hands don't deal well with cold so others may be better in even cooler temps.
Plus, neoprene, aka wetsuit material, is designed to trap a layer of water which is heated by the bod to keep ya warm.
I have 3mm neoprene cycling gloves and and I find below 5 C unberably cold so ended up putting insulated gloves over the top. I used to use a pogi but I found the a nuisance.
❤Just a follow up…I got these on your suggestion and they are now in their 2nd season….just wonderful with the right glove or mix of layers. I have used the lobster in and out of the pogie lites but neither works for me, as they are not large enough for my hands. The problem is that, after 45 minutes or so, the lack of circulation causes the cold to set in with or without the wind breaking effect of the pogies. At 35F I find that a liner glove with something like the Showerpass over the liner is perfect for 1.5 to 2 hrs. Thx so much!
I've been rockin' the Bike Iowa pogie lite's for over a year. They look different than the ones in the video so that may be a newer version. They get 5 stars from me. They were so good that I actually bought two noodles and rewired my Rohloff shifter so that the pogies would work with the grip-shift on my Jones Loop Bar. Great product.
When it's wet and cold I use Showa insulated work gloves from Japan. Totally waterproof, excellent grip, and insulated. Get them large and you can even fit a thin wool liner inside, if needed for really cold days. I found them online for about $12 bucks a pair and I'm on my second season in them. Nothing else I've tried is as totally waterproof.
These things are amazing.
Where to get gloves you talk about, please send link
Considered them many times but haven't sat down and worked through the issues. This was really helpful.
Function is often more important than design. I like the Pogies.
Whoa. I know pogies from kayaking, have seen them on flat bar bikes, but couldn’t imagine them working on drop bars. This could be life-altering for my cycling pals with Reynaud’s Syndrome. Thanks much.
I used the lobster claw gloves with hand warmers when temps got below freezing, but that was my limit. Now I live in Phoenix so that's a distant memory 🙂
Lobster claws rock! But they do not make shifting easy.
These would be perfect for all year riding. Unfortunately the shipping fees to Canada are $38! That's quite steep with an $80 price tag. And then conversion, and then (potential) duty fees. Another great product that's a bit too much on a spendy side for those outside of the US (unless, of course, money is not a consideration).
I hear you. Duty can be a bitch. Looks like a simple design. Maybe find someone with some sewing skills?
Fun fact, the Bike Iowa pogies can fit over top of Bar Mitts for those extra cold days!
Ordered me a pair of these Pogie Lites last Friday following your previous video and can't wait to give them a try!
A even cheaper and easier solution is your typical surgical gloves underneath another pair of cycling gloves, works like a charm.
Cheaper and easier but doesn’t work for Montana winter.
If you mean latax/plastic gloves they don't work because of sweat as they don't breathe, they are also too close fitting to allow the hands to warn up.
I'm glad it works for you but for the majority it would only work for a few minutes.
Hello Montana cyclist! Thanks for the tip. I'm still cycling here in Helena. It's been so warm my ski gloves still work. Last weekend I went trail riding one day and ski'd the next day.
It gets down to -40 F where I live so I opted for the neoprene bar mitts.
The only issue I had with them is I had to cut a hole for the bar-end mirror.
You can buy them with a hole but it would cost you $30 more!
Had these and the showers pass crosspoint gloves since shortly after this video. Love both items and even in January….in Iowa they work great for my 8 mile commute. It was 23 today and while I wouldn’t have wanted to go long distance with this setup without a better glove option, the pogies are so slick.
Been motorcycling and biking since the 70's and bar mitts are the only thing guaranteed to keep hands dry. Less of a problem now I'm an old git and don't have to commute!
Good solution. Another tip is to have your arms be as warm as possible. I wear an extra layer of arm warmers to keep the blood going into the hands as warm as possible. Warming the hands is really inefficient.
Bike Iowa pogies! Yes!!! These are awesome and worth every single dime! I wear mine with a pair of military surplus wool gloves, and they're awesome. Fits my Jones H bars perfectly too.
I been looking for light weight pogies for Vancouver rain, how do they hold up in rainy conditions? Also glad to hear they fit Jones Bars
From my experience, they do decent. Light rain they do awesome. Haven't had them on it a huge downpour or anything.
Kelly, do you run the Jones Loop H bar?
@@NigelsJourneys yes, sure do!
As a London cycle courier, I totally endorse this video. I don't use the product in the video but a pair of muffs meant for motorcycles which are fur lined. I never get cold hands even in minus temperatures. The only proviso is that to do it my way, you'll need a flat bar bike.
Also, don't spend money on expensive gloves, most large stores stock cheap thinsulate ski gloves that are warmer.
Nitrile gloves under neoprene works.....and btw... a little pepper in your sox keep feet warm
Pogies work. It's astounding how well they work. Truly.
Ive tried several kinds of pogies and bar mitts. The neoprene ones are easiest to get my hands in and out of on the drops. Pogies of all kinds on MTB bars tend to flop around more. I wear fleece lined leather mitts when it's below 20 degrees F or windstopper fleece from 20-30 F, above that it's Endura windstopper gloves with bar mitts. All of my winter bikes are singlespeed for ease of maintenance and consistent reliable operation with road salt and crud.
Gosh, this review made me pull out my old motorcycle Hippo Hands. Looks like I can get them to fit drop bars easy with full use of drops and hoods. Wonder how effective they'll be with the larger opening though.
I use snowmobile ones on my e-mtb to close up the bar side opening I use a strip of dual sided velcro and I don't get air infiltration until about 40 mph air speed
I've used bar mitts on motorbikes before because they work so well and I'm pleased to see them working on drop bars as I have just converted my old mountain bike to gravel bars. I'm a cheap skate though, so I may go get myself some ripstop fabric and get out the sewing machine. Thank you for the review.
Use 3mm neoprene instead of the rip stop, repels water better and it has a better insulation effect
I've always had good luck with insulated work gloves from Home Depot or Lowes. $15-20 a pair and if something happens to them, you are not out a ton of $$$.
I use skiing gloves, I think made of kevlar or similar materials. Very thin & light weight, breathable, waterproof and protect against cold. You can also wear summer gloves underneath. No need for linnet. But you can also get skiing silk liner. All cheap 2nd hand from people who went on skiing holiday once.
Love those! The winter ones are great as I can wear a light glove and not get arm pump from smashing a heavily padded glove.
For 20-30F rides I've used basic marmot mid-weight gloves with a merino liner. Works down to mid-30s then I tape hand warmers to my palms. Worked great in mid-20s.
These Pogie's seem a lot easier! Plus, I stop and take pix a lot, so taking off layers is a pita.
Ive also used Klim winter dual-sport gloves. They are warm but bulky.
Looking at Hestra gloves + merino liners bc I can also use them for snowboarding/snowshoeing. Knowing me I will probably get he Pogies too!
I'm sure those Pogies work better that gloves and even better in combination with gloves. But seing them I can't avoid the imagination to have my hands stuck at them while falling down and that imagination is really scary. Probably the hands will not be completly stuck in them, but when falling even half a second for getting the hands out of the Pogies can make a big difference.
Maybe it doesnt scare most other people that much, because they dont fall with their bikes. But after finding myself laying beside my bike 5 times during the last 2 years, it would be a bit bold to call it unlikely to happen.
I used pogies on my straight bar Cannondale mountain bike that I used for my winter bike for several years. Last two years I have used pogies on my straight bar electric assist Gazelle. In both cases they made a world of difference. Love your review of the pogie lights for drop bars. Looks like an awesome option.
Used these since the 80's - and the idea is much older. These are nice because they are light and seem less stiff than most others.
Pogies DO keep your hands warm. BUT.
If you are off-road snow riding, which means you WILL be falling, you won't be able to break your low speed falls - you just can't reflex your hands out.
You can with practice. NO ONE racing expedition fat bike events like the Iditabike uses gloves. That’s frostbite suicide. Somehow they manage 100s of miles with pogies.
@@PathLessPedaledTV Maybe YOU can get out, God BLESS yer Little Heart. I CAN'T. Who is going to practice falling down??? I am talking about off-roading with obstacles, tight switchbacks, etc. The film I've seen of Iditabike ain't that. Just snowmobile trails. Suffering to be sure, but it's not technical and pogies are fine for that. Apple, meet orange.
@@Steve-wz5pz wait till you find out about clipless pedals.
@@PathLessPedaledTV I'm well acquainted with clipless pedals, thanks. They are not clipless SOCKS which is basically what pogies are to your hands. But NICE TRY anyway! Pogies have their place -- in non-technical, low-crash probability riding. But you'll have all the crash mitigating capability of walking in a box with your arms in it.
Over the probably 15 years I’ve used BarMitts, I’ve crashed many times on mountain bikes in winter when riding “technical” terrain, at all speeds, and in all cases, the BarMitts were a total non issue, hands naturally slip out. Try it before ya knock it. (-:
For folks thinking these aren't "roadie enough", that may be the case looks-wise, but consider how "roadie" you'll feel using your usual half-finger gloves in cold winter weather.
As someone who sews their own bikepacking bags, I'm really curious if I could make these. I have a bunch of light and waterproof drybags lying around that I could modify.
Did you self learn how to make stuff? Or how'd you find out to get the materials shapes to cut and sewing etc.
I’d pay for a set
Teach me your bagweaving ways, master.
@@shhhhlemon4936 My father is a supply tech in the Canadian Military and he showed me his ways.
@@NoobieToob TH-cam is an amazing teacher.
I've been using rowing gloves instead of bike specific gloves for the past 3 years. Bike gloves would last around a month or 2 before they start to deteriorate but the rowing gloves, specifically NRS fingerless, have hit 7 or 8 months on my current pair, with similar performance with the previous 3-4 pairs. Just something I've noticed and I'm very happy about. I like good gloves
EDIT:
No glove can withstand a sustained attack from a 4 month old puppy, as I just relearned 🐕
Neoprene does not evaporate moisture and therefore your hands freeze inside through their own water production
I learned it by freezing my feet with socks of the same material, thinking it would be great for biking but it wasn't. Ok fingerless means it's not closed, but having fingers exposed is only good for Florida.
Re: shifting - all the more reason to embrace single speed in the winter.
Thin nitrile gloves as wind/vapor barrier. Work gloves (Mechanix-esque) for overs, good for down to near freezing, but if your hands sweat a lot not exactly comfortable. Or at least that's what works for me.
I was just thinking the same thing
I'm a sweaty guy riding in Seattle. I only have two options in the rain. Get wet from the outside or the inside of the gloves. I'm really looking into these but my commuter bike has bar end shifters.
Yes ... thin nitrile under a light weight glove (fleece or nylon shell material) work well in the upper 30's - 50's temp range
@@Outsideville I've done it for rides, I've done it for work. When it's cold, wet, and windy I'll run them without hesitation.
@@willgo7898 as a bonus, if you go to fix your chain, you can toss the gloves after. Major flex
Thanks for bringing these up! I just put myself on the waiting list, since they’re sold out.
I live in MN, I've been using two gloves with some overbuilt poagies. My light gloves have been holding up just fine so far. I have an insulated leather pair for below freezing temps. I don't break out the poagies until it's in the single digits tho. Got me through last winter, and I'm committed for this winter as well.
I got Bar Mitts for road bars worth every dime ... OK aero was a surprise, use gauntlet gloves below freezing & on studded tires for icy roads, 8sp Salsa Journeyman 700c wheels, gotta 12-42t/50-34 luv it 🍺
Interesting product - I used pogies for years when sea kayaking. I never knew you could get them for cycling! They are available for motorcycles but I found them dangerous but these look much better.
Canadian here. Lobster claw gloves are the best, good for -20 commutes to work.
Had a pair for a year now they are a must once the weather starts to turn.I’ve used in -10 with mid weight gloves and hands stayed warm worth every penny, just ordered the girlfriend a pair.
I've been riding in 15f this week. It was a good reminder my gloves are rated to about 25f lol we past the limit boys.
I wear mittens but thanks for the suggestion 🍻 maybe one day I’ll put this on my list.
You have incredible solutions radar, Russ. Thanks for the review. I hesitated on buying the Bar Mitts but could get with these. In the meanwhile I’ve been having really good success with my People’s Poncho which hooks right over the lever blades and keeps my hands really toasty in addition to letting me wear normal, breathable non waterproof stuff underneath.
being a cheapskate I got the snowmobiler ones, priced right but better sutied for single digit or below zero temps.
Mike - I went the same route initially, but the I found the extra bulk and insulation unnecessary for most of the fatbiking I do here in Iowa. I've personally used these down into the single digits last year with no issues.
Simply wear Two latex gloves per hand underneath any pair of wind proof mitts. You're welcome
That sounds like a good way to get sweaty and frost bitten hands.
I have a pair of Barmits, and yes, they are effective, I use them on my drop bar road bike. The problem I have is it locks your hand in that single position, inside the Barmit, holding on to the shifter, and it gets uncomfortable not being about to move my hands around the bar.
Pogies don't have thread breaking friction and insulation cancelling compression like a glove or mitten. I like my winter pogies. The ones featured here remind me of rain gloves.
Wear a pair of latex medical gloves under your fav gloves
Tried that. This is better.
Another suggestion, for gloves or even cold weather/waterproof socks, look for products marketed for snowmobiling. Same products, lower prices.
You don't even necessarily need a pogie, you can use a mitten shell, which is the same except stuck to your hand. REI sells a pair of gortex mittenshells that are awesome. Other companies do too, but they get expensive. Pair with your expensive cycling gloves, or much cheaper fleece wool liner gloves. If it's cold add more fluffy insulation in the form of more gloves. Pretty simple, and you can use them for skiing or hiking or whatever else.
I’ve tried mitten shells. Pogies work better IME and you have more dexterity.
I used to live in Japan and these hand protector products are quite common on cheap bikes used around the neighborhood.
The 3 finger lobster claw mittens cheaper for the pair than one pogie, and they're more practical for other uses, like keeping your hands warm when you get off the bike. Just make sure they're windproof, then you can wear some thin gloves with good dexterity or even some battery heated glove liners underneath them (depending how cold). You have to take pogies off and put them on every time you lock up, and if you have other accessories like a bike computer or saddle bags to remove, this just adds to the time it takes to mount and dismount at the rack.
I just leave the pogies on. No one knows or cares about whether they are.
Great review Russ! I am into my 4th pair of so called waterproof gloves in 3 years so I am jumping on these right now :) Canadian winters can be just as terrible as they get so I'm willing to try anything to keep me dry and warm year round.
I'll gladly give my money to a fellow cyclist
thanks and hello from up north
Been using Bar Mitts on my drop bar single speed for the last ten winters, and they rule. Far warmer and windproof than the heaviest mitten.
open palm neoprene windsurfing mitts are the best for cycling imo. they cost little, can be flipped up while cycling in case you need your fingers and, most important, stay warm no matter how wet they get.
Lol I've been wearing plastic food bags held on with elastic reflective wristbands- looks terrible but keeps my ski gloves bone dry and doesn't stop me accessing my vintage between-your-knees friction shifter in a hurry.
This is great, I ride in Midwest as long as I can and this solves a real problem
I have neoprene pogies and use them without gloves most of the time. It's good for all four seasons in Auckland, New Zealand, including without gloves.
I crashed multiple times on my bikes, often when road conditions were froozen or wet. Being able to move my hands quickly to save my cranium from hitting the ground seems more important to me , so i´ll stick to wearing two pairs of gloves.
Well it does take like 5 minutes of riding to figure it out.
45 North Pogies are more rigid. I can, and have, gotten in and out in microseconds. Pogies don't need to be really tight. They need to block wind. Do what makes you comfortable.
Over the probably 15 years I’ve used them, I’ve only crashed a couple times with a bar mitts-equipped road bike, but many times on mountain bikes, and in all cases, the BarMitts were a total non issue, hands naturally slip out.
I like pogies, but I prefer to use wool gloves on the inside, because wool helps a lot with moisture management and stays warm even when wet. The plastic gloves get my hands clammy.
If you’ve ever stocked frozen food, you know this trick. Wear vinyl or latex gloves underneath your regular gloves.
Winter is coming. I just ordered one. Thanks for the review.
Thin is interesting, but I have RockBrothers bar mits, 2 more points they can keep battery packs warmer for bike lights, also for cooler weather -10°c iron oxide heat packs keep your hands toasty!
Thanks! Please do another video on lower temps, say 30, 20, 10 and 0, and if it's as easy to carry snacks and other gloves in it as other stiffer pogies, or if its too baggy. Other reviews show it works on mountain bike flat bars in articles with pictures only, but please add this to show it on flat bars in video. Thanks!
Bought these last year and my experience [ I have VERY large hands] is similar to yours BUT they are a bit restrictive when cinched tight around wrists to keep the cold out.
Great video review- many thanks. The Pogielites are currently "SOLD OUT" but I signed up for the waitlist.
Gave up on fancy gloves long ago. Try this really cheap trick. Regular short finger cycling gloves and then a pair of jersey gloves, the like $3.00 brown hardware store work gloves. They breath enough you don’t get sweaty hands yet seem to work with your body heat. They aren’t tight. Tight = cold. Best option I’ve found yet. The yellow fuzzy gloves are bit heavier but work too. Yes their downside can be rain.
I nearly got frostbite on my fingers last winter even though I was riding with thick, windproof gloves. That's when I decided I needed something better, so I bought some Wolf Tooth Pogies which have been wonderful. Now I can wear thin gloves, or even fingerless gloves and still have toasty warm hands.
Ive found insulated gloves good down to 16F, but when/if I ever ride in colder weather I’ll have to get some of these
If you keep your core and arms warm, lightweight but windproof gloves (like Gore Infinium) are fine some way below 10C, and I say that as someone affected by Raynaud's syndrome.
De Feet wool gloves are the best, thin but very warm
You can get all kinds of winter cycling gloves at your local hardware store for less than half the price of buying cycling gloves. I paid about $20 for the insulated leather gloves I bought at Home Depot. I ride in 15-30*F temps all the time with these gloves and I have been using them for a few years. I don't use pogies.
I was going to say that too, or even better, wholesale construction equipment sites online, there definitely is a "bicycle tax" where can pay 2-4 times as much.
There is a point when a glove (as defined as a thing with multiple things for your fingers) will not be warm enough. If you live in a place where you can get away with gloves, then awesome. If you live in a place with real winter, good luck.
@@PathLessPedaledTV True, I believe the Eskimos have used mittens since the dawn of history, there's something to be said for ancient traditions (like rim brakes)
These look great for cold weather commuting. And not crazy expensive either. Nice.
A pair skiing gloves I got in TJ MAXX have been great for wet and windy cold cycling days... :)
Pogies really work. Boston commuter in 10 degree to negative temps. Always surprised by how well they work. Minor annoyance with setup.
Perfect solution to staying on the path through the winter. Thanks Russ! Less for me to concern myself with when planning Nachez Trace ride this coming February.
As an MTB rider, I need good gloves with a lot of grip. I still have winter gloves, but I recently bought a pair of Leatt Subzero XLs that only cost $12. That's really not much and a great price. You just have to look for offers and because you have others, you don't have any pressure
Whoa! $80? This is definitely not an impulse spend. I'll have to plan for this purchase in advance. My commutes tend to be two hours in the winter and freezing rain is a constant during the winter in Cleveland. I do have bar mitts that I use when the weather gets cold but when there is 20 to 30 degree difference between the morning temperature and the afternoon temperature, the bar mitts can sometimes be too hot. They can be annoying having to put them on in the morning then removing them in the afternoon because it is too warm. Or vice versa. The Pogie Lites could be a nice alternative.
Mittens outperform gloves because fingers warm each other when they touch. I only use mittens at - 15 Celsius or colder . I usually don't bike below - 10 .
I wear wool mittens and cheap polyester wind proof mittens over that. Don’t feel the cold when it’s -15 C or colder outside.
Is this the one designed by Steve Redmond, former Seattle bike cop who created these type in 97-99 I'm pretty sure. Then work awesome, he started it for flat bars since Seattle was the first to mass adopt MTN bike for patrols. They were sponsored by Raleigh. He didn't make them for drop bars for quotes while. It doesn't get that cold in temp in Seattle but with British type rain and constant wind. 40 and wind/rain is older than riding in Utah at -7*f in Utah.
P.S I hate autocorrect
Pearl Izumi made 3 finger mits which was good but since they changed the pattern of this model (Amfib Lobster Gel Gloves) they are no longer as effective. In part because they no longer offer a real XXL ,all their size shrink and if there no room for larger hand it will not be hot inside.
sorry this is not working for below zero temperature in Canada, I tried it before
Works great here in the US 🤷🏽♂️
The only concern is when you fall. Good luck trying taking the hand from there to protect your face/body from the fall. Similar if you go down the stairs with the hands in your pocket(face/teeth will be affected)
The cheap Rock Bros. neoprene bar mitts are a life saver. I fat bike in MN so I know cold.
Ordered thanks to this video
A pair of basic lobster claw ski gloves work awesome as well. Cheap, waterproof, easy.
It is useless in town because You have to signal moving eg. turn, overtake etc. or has free hands to other "stuff".
Invented by Basic Active Wear from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, back in 1997, original name were "handlebar mittens" later on the name was changed, I'm not sure who changed it.
One time I wanted to go to chipotle and didn't have a car and it was like 0° outside so I rode my scooter with no gloves. It was like 2 miles away and as soon as I got outside, my hands went numb and the entire time riding there. I could not feel my hands. I got there and my hands were soooo cold. After like 30 minutes, I could feel sensitivity in my hands again but I felt sooo much pain in my fingers. I was so scared. My face also turned white and I felt like i was going to pass out. I sat on the floor and I went deaf almost for like 30 minutes. It was horrible. My brother was with me and he gave me a bandana so I wrapped it around my hand and rode home one handed and the bandana kept my hand warm