Thank you for a very helpful video! I’ve had this hand piece for months now and have only used it once. I’m afraid I will break it! I’m definitely going to make a cuff like yours with soldered wire and do some texturizing on it. Your earrings look terrific.
Melissa, I enjoyed your video, as always. One comment...your logo covered up part of what you were doing when you moved the item closer to the right side of the bench block. Not a biggie, but a little distracting. Just F.Y.I. Do you use a foot pedal and the bench top speed controller together? How do you hook them up? Do you use an SR or an LX motor? I recently purchased the LX with the foot pedal and the bench top speed controller, and the 15 hammer handpiece. (Haven't received it yet, though.) I was just wondering how they were connected. Thanks for any info. You are so good about explaining things in a way that is easy to understand.
Yeah, sorry about that darn logo. UGH. Yes, I do use the foot pedal and speed controller together. I plug the foot pedal into the the controller. It will make sense when you get it. I have the SR Motor. I am glad that, even with the logo blunders, you enjoy the videos. :)
Thanks Melissa! I inherited a Foredom Flex Shaft from my father recently. I've yet to use it. I'm a "show me" type of person so this video is very helpful. Love your asymmetric earring design!
Thankyou for this tutorial I have just purchased the fordom sr as I had issues with dremel also I have painful hand im hoping the hammer attachment hels me.
Thank you for the video, something I noticed is that at 6:30 you are using the foot and dial speed control together right?. Both can be used at the same time? Thank you.
Thanks Melissa! I have yet to use my hammer hand piece to set a bezel; I can see where it would require practice and the right touch. I also liked your use of the wire inside the piece to raise the stone. Do you solder that in place? As always, appreciate your videos. Very informative and helpful.
Didn't know there was a control to adjust the speed of the Foredom. This is a game changer for control of the Hammer Handpiece. Thanks for another great video
@@lindasandidge7471 do you live in the states? And which flexshaft do you have? The SR? If yes to both, this is the one you need. www.micro-tools.com/products/for-c-em-1?aff=8
Orly Burg do you mean which motor I used? If I am using it with a controller then I use the SR motor. If I don’t have the controller then I use it with the LX model.
Hi Melissa 👋 long time follower! I recently purchased the hammer hand piece for flush setting diamonds in 2 gold bands that I’m making for our 50th anniversary. My question now is: have you used the diamond pave tip Pavetron, by Euro tool, for texturing?
Would I be able to use this to set a 20 gauge bezel? I have trouble using a hand bezel pusher i such a thick bezel, and am hoping this will be strong enough.
Yes. This will be strong enough, but it will take time. You may want to consider filing a bevel around the top edge of the bezel to thin it out ever so slightly around the top of the stone so the metal moves a bit easier. I would also use fine silver and not sterling.
@@MelissaMuir Thanks Melissa, filing a bezel makes sense. I actually use Argentium, which probably has the same characteristic as sterling in this application -- can you even get fine silver in 20 gauge? Probably have to cut it myself?
Hello mam, I have a 18000 rpm motor us version, can i use hammer handpiece in this motor or i need another motor to use ? And is there any problem to run that machine slowly by pedal without speed controller ?.
Yes you can use it. The thing about not having a controller is that as they concentrate people tend to push down on the foot pedal. If you take your handpiece over 5,000 rpm then it will wear out. And there really isn’t a good way to know when you have hit that speed.
HI Melissa! I have had a hammer hand piece for a bit now but just haven't felt comfortable with it. I need to purchase the bezel rocker style anvil point....I think that's my issue....trying to set a bezel with just the point that came with it!! Lol I am going to Tucson also...my first time! I will be there Feb 8 to 12th I think. When will u be there?
Yes, setting a bezel with a point would be difficult. I believe I will be leaving the gem show by the 6th of February. The show I am at is from the 27th of January to the 3rd of February.
Melissa Muir aw that's too bad I won't get to meet you!. I'm hoping I didn't book my trip too late....do u think there will still be lots of shows Feb 8 to 11??
Thanks so much, Melissa! It was very thorough and informative. I have a Foredom flex shaft - do you use the controller all the time with the flex shaft, or only with the hammer hand piece?
you must be out of stock ATM. Does the handpiece come with the other tips? Also, did you use any pressure when setting or just hold it against the bezel? Thank you for sharing Melissa! I try to buy from you whenever I need something that you sell. :)
Thanks Debbie, I do actually have a few in stock. Send me an email and i will get you an invoice. Melissa@melissamuir.com - I did not use pressure when setting. I just placed it against the bezel an let the tool do the work for me. :)
Hi, thanks for the video, I found it really useful as I've never seen how the hammer handpiece is used before. Can I ask, when you're using it with the SR motor and the speed controller box, are you also using the foot pedal? Or just the controller box alone? Thank you!
Claire Davis yes. I do use my foot pedal. The control box is in the middle of the foot pedal and flexshaft. So instead of plugging the flexshaft into the foot petal and the foot petal into the wall. You will now have the flexshaft into the control box, the box into the foot pedal and the foot pedal into the wall.
Thank you for coming back to clarify that, it kind of makes sense although I am finding it a bit hard to visualise how it'll all fit together as I don't have the box yet. I guess it'll make more sense when I have that and can see the layout properly. Thanks again! :)
@@MelissaMuir Hi Melissa - I'm in the UK and I have an SR/ with foot pedal; my control box arrived today - Do I need a connecting cable to go between the pedal/ speed dial for the 3 to work together? I have no issue plugging the flex shaft into the control box but I have to unplug the control box power supply to be able to free up the right kind of slot to connect it to the foot pedal - however, the foot pedal connector is very short so the dial ends up on the floor. Additionally, when I plug the pedal into the wall, there's no power flow between them. This leads me to think I'm down a cable? It's a bit confusing but I hope I've articulated it in the least confusing way.
My hammer handpiece just unscrews as I use it. Then the tip falls off . Nothing I have done has been able to correct it. Neither of my flex-shafts are reversible.
When it comes to all of my work, up to now, I have used the SR motor from Foredom. I just recently added the LX model which is better suited to the hammer handpiece as it is lower speed and higher torque. So I now have both set up and working. The SR motor is a much more general purpose motor and is what you will find in most jewelry shops. So if you can only afford one, I would highly suggest the SR motor. If you are going to be setting stones and that is what you will primarily use it for, then the LX motor is the one you want.
Melissa, what did you mean when you said that you "don't want to over do it or you'll stretch the metal and it won't lay over the stone properly" ?? And also what did you mean when you said "your going to use the burnisher to lay every thing back down"? Isn't it already down from the hammer hand piece that you used to set it? Love that hammer hand piece! Thanks!
If you hammer too much the metal will stretch and you will have too much metal as it thins and will begin to flare at the top of the stone. Some people will keep going over an area to try to remove little hammer marks made by the hammer head and will thin it too much. As you get better, these become less of an issue as you begin master your technique. But the burnisher is used to really smooth the metal out afterward. Kind of like spreading and smoothing butter on bread.
Melissa, you are EXTREMELY proficient doing these videos. You seem to cover a point just as I was wondering about it...mind reader?? I especially appreciate your answer on this particular point. I have probably had this very issue doing bezels by hand. I wish I'd know you sell tools as I had just placed my order for my handpiece prior to watching this. I know it takes a lot of planning, setup, equipment, skill in the technique covered, and ability to teach. So I really do appreciate your effort to help me continue to improve skills in this art form I'm so passionate about.
Thanks Melissa! I love your demos. I used to live in Tucson. I miss the gem shows so much. Have to go again.
Thank you. I do love the gem shows. I hope you do make it back down.
I bought the hammerhead hand piece and your video taught me how to use it. Very grateful Melissa.❤️
I am so glad to hear that. Thank you.
Thank you for a very helpful video! I’ve had this hand piece for months now and have only used it once. I’m afraid I will break it! I’m definitely going to make a cuff like yours with soldered wire and do some texturizing on it. Your earrings look terrific.
Thank you. Good luck. And the more you use it, the more comfortable you will be.
Melissa,
I enjoyed your video, as always. One comment...your logo covered up part of what you were doing when you moved the item closer to the right side of the bench block. Not a biggie, but a little distracting. Just F.Y.I.
Do you use a foot pedal and the bench top speed controller together? How do you hook them up? Do you use an SR or an LX motor? I recently purchased the LX with the foot pedal and the bench top speed controller, and the 15 hammer handpiece. (Haven't received it yet, though.) I was just wondering how they were connected. Thanks for any info. You are so good about explaining things in a way that is easy to understand.
Yeah, sorry about that darn logo. UGH. Yes, I do use the foot pedal and speed controller together. I plug the foot pedal into the the controller. It will make sense when you get it. I have the SR Motor. I am glad that, even with the logo blunders, you enjoy the videos. :)
Excellent video Melissa thank you so much for taking the time to show us these wonderful tips
Thank you. Glad you liked it. :)
Thanks Melissa! I inherited a Foredom Flex Shaft from my father recently. I've yet to use it. I'm a "show me" type of person so this video is very helpful. Love your asymmetric earring design!
Thank you. I don't do asymmetric very often, so these were fun for me to do.
Use it!! Learn by doing. Just hammer away at everything. You will learn much faster.
@@mjremy2605 I have! That comment is 4 years old.
Thankyou for this tutorial I have just purchased the fordom sr as I had issues with dremel also I have painful hand im hoping the hammer attachment hels me.
I love my hammer handpiece. It was a total game changer for setting stones.
That's nifty! Oh my ... now I *need* this too for my Foredom flex shaft.
I have some in stock. :D Just sayin'
Thank you for the video, something I noticed is that at 6:30 you are using the foot and dial speed control together right?. Both can be used at the same time? Thank you.
Yes. In this case I am using them together. My system is a bit older and I am able to do it. But the newer systems do not do it with reliability.
Thanks Melissa! I have yet to use my hammer hand piece to set a bezel; I can see where it would require practice and the right touch. I also liked your use of the wire inside the piece to raise the stone. Do you solder that in place? As always, appreciate your videos. Very informative and helpful.
I did not solder the wire into place. :)
Hola. Puedes decirme donde comprar esas herramientas incluyendo el pulidor de mano? Gracias
Didn't know there was a control to adjust the speed of the Foredom. This is a game changer for control of the Hammer Handpiece. Thanks for another great video
deband323 I won’t use my hammer handpiece without it. It is great.
@@MelissaMuir I located the control box but it comes in 2 speeds. 100V and 220V. Which do you recommend I buy?
I love all of your very helpful videos!
@@lindasandidge7471 do you live in the states? And which flexshaft do you have? The SR? If yes to both, this is the one you need. www.micro-tools.com/products/for-c-em-1?aff=8
@@lindasandidge7471 if you are in the US, you should do the 110v.
Good info on hammer handpiece; points discussion adaptation, and many datails.
Thank you.
Which disk do you use on the jooltool to finish these tools
Thx for this video. As I’ve never set a stone, are you pushing the side or the top of the bezel? It’s hard to see.
Can i use hammer hand piece for decorated name lile necklace and ring name ?
Yes you can, but it might be easier to use a diamond bit in a rotary handpiece.
Hello Melissa thanks so much for the video, I learned a lot. Can you specify to which flex shaft you hooked the hammer? Thanks Orly
Orly Burg do you mean which motor I used? If I am using it with a controller then I use the SR motor. If I don’t have the controller then I use it with the LX model.
Great tutorial. Love my hammer piece!
Hi Melissa 👋 long time follower! I recently purchased the hammer hand piece for flush setting diamonds in 2 gold bands that I’m making for our 50th anniversary. My question now is: have you used the diamond pave tip Pavetron, by Euro tool, for texturing?
No. I haven’t ever used it. But I have used the pave tip by Foredom for that purpose.
@@MelissaMuir thanks for your quick response 🙏 Did you ever do a video on this.. would love to see !
Can you use a foot pedal with the speed controller?
Awesome, thank you for sharing
Super helpful! Thank you!
Is there a reason why you place the piece on a steel block? Does that help with setting?
Would I be able to use this to set a 20 gauge bezel? I have trouble using a hand bezel pusher i such a thick bezel, and am hoping this will be strong enough.
Yes. This will be strong enough, but it will take time. You may want to consider filing a bevel around the top edge of the bezel to thin it out ever so slightly around the top of the stone so the metal moves a bit easier. I would also use fine silver and not sterling.
@@MelissaMuir Thanks Melissa, filing a bezel makes sense. I actually use Argentium, which probably has the same characteristic as sterling in this application -- can you even get fine silver in 20 gauge? Probably have to cut it myself?
Merrilee Harrigan yes, I believe you would have to cut it yourself.
Thanks, Melissa! So helpful!!!
Thank you for the feedback. I am glad it was helpful
Thank you.
what camera settings are you using for this setup?
Thanks for great info. Now all I have to do is get hubby to remember what he did with my hand piece!
Hahaha
Will you be in Tuscon in 2021?
Yes. I will be at the Fretz/Micro-Tools Booth at the Pueblo Show.
@@MelissaMuir yay!!!
Hello mam,
I have a 18000 rpm motor us version, can i use hammer handpiece in this motor or i need another motor to use ? And is there any problem to run that machine slowly by pedal without speed controller ?.
Yes you can use it. The thing about not having a controller is that as they concentrate people tend to push down on the foot pedal. If you take your handpiece over 5,000 rpm then it will wear out. And there really isn’t a good way to know when you have hit that speed.
@@MelissaMuir is it harmful for motor if i run it very slowly ?
@@balmukundsoni3108 not harmful at all.
@@MelissaMuir ok thank you soo much for help❤️. Love from india ❤️
@@balmukundsoni3108 I am happy to help.
HI Melissa! I have had a hammer hand piece for a bit now but just haven't felt comfortable with it. I need to purchase the bezel rocker style anvil point....I think that's my issue....trying to set a bezel with just the point that came with it!! Lol I am going to Tucson also...my first time! I will be there Feb 8 to 12th I think. When will u be there?
Yes, setting a bezel with a point would be difficult. I believe I will be leaving the gem show by the 6th of February. The show I am at is from the 27th of January to the 3rd of February.
Melissa Muir aw that's too bad I won't get to meet you!. I'm hoping I didn't book my trip too late....do u think there will still be lots of shows Feb 8 to 11??
I am not sure. I am trying to figure out which shows will still be open when mine is done. I want to do some shopping too. LOL.
can you use these for faceted stones?
Yes, absolutely. You still have to be careful, but I do it all the time.
Thanks so much, Melissa! It was very thorough and informative. I have a Foredom flex shaft - do you use the controller all the time with the flex shaft, or only with the hammer hand piece?
Good question. Mine is hooked up all the time. So I have to adjust it when I am doing polishing or whatnot, but it doesn't have to be that way.
Thanks, Melissa!
I see you use copper do you have tips for cleaning solder from copper
Sadly, no. Just filing and sanding. If it is a tight area I will use Moore’s sanding discs or radial bristle wheels.
Thanks you so much !!!
you must be out of stock ATM. Does the handpiece come with the other tips? Also, did you use any pressure when setting or just hold it against the bezel? Thank you for sharing Melissa! I try to buy from you whenever I need something that you sell. :)
Thanks Debbie, I do actually have a few in stock. Send me an email and i will get you an invoice. Melissa@melissamuir.com - I did not use pressure when setting. I just placed it against the bezel an let the tool do the work for me. :)
Hi, thanks for the video, I found it really useful as I've never seen how the hammer handpiece is used before. Can I ask, when you're using it with the SR motor and the speed controller box, are you also using the foot pedal? Or just the controller box alone? Thank you!
Claire Davis yes. I do use my foot pedal. The control box is in the middle of the foot pedal and flexshaft. So instead of plugging the flexshaft into the foot petal and the foot petal into the wall. You will now have the flexshaft into the control box, the box into the foot pedal and the foot pedal into the wall.
Thank you for coming back to clarify that, it kind of makes sense although I am finding it a bit hard to visualise how it'll all fit together as I don't have the box yet. I guess it'll make more sense when I have that and can see the layout properly. Thanks again! :)
Claire Davis yes. I think it will make much more sense when you have it.
@@MelissaMuir Hi Melissa - I'm in the UK and I have an SR/ with foot pedal; my control box arrived today - Do I need a connecting cable to go between the pedal/ speed dial for the 3 to work together?
I have no issue plugging the flex shaft into the control box but I have to unplug the control box power supply to be able to free up the right kind of slot to connect it to the foot pedal - however, the foot pedal connector is very short so the dial ends up on the floor. Additionally, when I plug the pedal into the wall, there's no power flow between them. This leads me to think I'm down a cable?
It's a bit confusing but I hope I've articulated it in the least confusing way.
@@myjewellerygarden_8628 did you get it to work, Im considering the same set up instead of a second motor
My hammer handpiece just unscrews as I use it. Then the tip falls off . Nothing I have done has been able to correct it. Neither of my flex-shafts are reversible.
Thank you so much for the info!!!
Jennifer Lamprey I am glad you found it helpful.
Ple price India ????
Which Foredom do you recommend?
When it comes to all of my work, up to now, I have used the SR motor from Foredom. I just recently added the LX model which is better suited to the hammer handpiece as it is lower speed and higher torque. So I now have both set up and working. The SR motor is a much more general purpose motor and is what you will find in most jewelry shops. So if you can only afford one, I would highly suggest the SR motor. If you are going to be setting stones and that is what you will primarily use it for, then the LX motor is the one you want.
Thanks!
Melissa, what did you mean when you said that you "don't want to over do it or you'll stretch the metal and it won't lay over the stone properly" ?? And also what did you mean when you said "your going to use the burnisher to lay every thing back down"? Isn't it already down from the hammer hand piece that you used to set it? Love that hammer hand piece! Thanks!
If you hammer too much the metal will stretch and you will have too much metal as it thins and will begin to flare at the top of the stone. Some people will keep going over an area to try to remove little hammer marks made by the hammer head and will thin it too much. As you get better, these become less of an issue as you begin master your technique. But the burnisher is used to really smooth the metal out afterward. Kind of like spreading and smoothing butter on bread.
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Mary Brown I am really hoping that was a compliment. HAHAHAHA
Melissa, you are EXTREMELY proficient doing these videos. You seem to cover a point just as I was wondering about it...mind reader?? I especially appreciate your answer on this particular point. I have probably had this very issue doing bezels by hand. I wish I'd know you sell tools as I had just placed my order for my handpiece prior to watching this. I know it takes a lot of planning, setup, equipment, skill in the technique covered, and ability to teach. So I really do appreciate your effort to help me continue to improve skills in this art form I'm so passionate about.
Unfortunately your logo overlays your work and marks it more difficult to visualize your technique.
Love this video Melissa, great info. Love your work too. Best wishes @cazwadejewellery
Carol Wade Thank you.
Between the logo covering the action and your hand blocking the light, not a watchable video...
Yeah, not the best video. Luckily, there is a new one coming soon.