Mark, these days I come to your videos 50% for learning reasons and 50% for the calming atmosphere. You are like the Fred Rogers of photography. Thanks for everything you do!
I've gone back and edited some older photos using what I've learned on your channel and there is a night and day difference. Especially shifting some greens toward yellows in some of my older landscape shots. Thanks for all the great info!
If you're thinking about a part 2 to this video, what about the difference between using "contrast", using the tone curve, or using the black and white sliders?
Glad you asked this Andy! I’ve been using the Black and White sliders because it doesn’t mess with the saturation like Contrast, and to a lesser extent Tone Curve does. It just seems to crush the black enough to give the images some bite without loosing over all shadows detail. Or have I just convinced myself that?! With minutiae like this it’s so easy to get bogged down and hours of time slip by.
Vibrance protects skin tones, is not so aggressive in the yellows reds and oranges, as it is with other colours of the wheel. If you have used a photo with people, it would be more explicit. The other differences explained in the video are very well illustrated. Thank you, and keep doing your excellent vídeos! 👏
Probably one of the most useful “intermediate” Lightroom video I’ve seen. Agree, good thing to learn Photoshop for Heal and Clone any day. Removing objects (other than dust spots and small particles) with Lightroom is painful and often fruitless.
I like the explanations of the differences between the various tools. I would also like to see a video post focused on detailing your personal approach to choosing when to use which “flavor” and perhaps even when you would mix and match them in your own editing workflow. Knowing the difference between a rip saw and a crosscut saw is important, but equally valuable is knowing which to use when. Thanks for your posts. I genuinely like them.
Once again I learned more things. The radial vignette was a great idea. The heal verses clone I didn't know about but will explore using it. Thanks for the insight.
Always learning great stuff from you Mark. Understanding the tools we use just makes the process that much easier, just like learning your camera. Great video this week Mark!
Great video Mark, Its clarified a few things for me like the Vibrance/Saturation part, and I've learnt something really useful today re creating a Vignette the way you've shown. I`m now going to start using that method straight away
Great idea about customizing a radial filter. I have always avoided vignette for the reason you show, and have tried shifting the oval's shape and position around or even using 4 separate radial filters to solve the problem. Yours is a much easier solution!
Hi Mark, thanks for this video, another helpful one. I just came from a trip to the Philippines and the country is so hazy during these summer months. When editing the pictures I took, I started using DEHAZE instead of adjusting the Exposure. This is very valuable when you're editing the sky portion of the image, especially when there's a ton of cumulus clouds, where the country has abundance of supply.
I've been using for most of my pictures Photoshop Raw, it is quicker even I have also lightroom I only use it for pictures thar require more advanced adjustment, thanks for all your lessons.
I had stopped using vignettes because it seems most professional photographers hate them; but I think I'd like to try this method. Also I had not considered using a brush mask to reduce the effect of another mask in some areas. I can see this making a big difference in my editing skills! Thanks! It seems Vibrance is a kind of contrast slider.
Professional photogs still use vignettes quite a bit. It’s a great way to direct the eye to the focal point of an image. They’re just good at hiding it and making it seem natural. Try using the masking method to vignette your photos but don’t use exposure to darken the vignette. Instead, use the shadows or blacks or curves adjustments to only affect the darker parts of the image and not affect the highlights. This hides your vignette better and gives a more natural feeling to the resulting vignette. A dead giveaway is when the highlights are darkened on the vignette. This wouldn’t occur naturally.
@@Top_o_da_foodDChain Great tip! Thanks! I think I'll have fun playing with this. I had forgotten all about my desire to try this method. Thanks for reminding me. 😀
Thanks Mark. Just found your channel a little while ago and am really enjoying the info you share. Also listened to a podcast recently where you shared your journey (Landscape Photography World with David Johnston I think?). My question is re vignetting, and I apologise if you've answered it elsewhere, when in your workflow do you apply your vignette? Some I've seen apply it really early and others just before publishing. I know it's not a first world problem but would appreciate your thoughts.
What zoom % do you use best to judge sharpness of a picture and if a lens performs well. Do you go beyond 100% ? I have no idea at what % you start calling it pixel peeping. Thank you for youtube chanel.love it 😍
Thanks for the tips for editing in Lightroom. I’m curious, many Fuji shooters have gone to Capture One for editing raw files. What is your main cataloging and editing tools?
Mark, Great Video. I never really used the "heal" spot removal before always just the "clone". Also the the vibrance vs saturation discussion was great. Thanks
I can make the same effect with the conventional vignette adjustment. You can change the shape, and midpoint, and you can always use the radial or brush masks to adjust locally, but I find the vignette tool is more natural looking
Hello Mark, great super helpful video my friend, I've benn following you for a wile and is also thank to you if I invested in photography wich is my passion. Unfortunately only few can make a living out of it and therefore it remains an hobby :( I have a couple of questions: the first one (i know you prefer Lightroom) but in light of the new technology applied, do you still think lightroom is better than photoshop? The second one is more personal, as hobby, I cannot afford expensive lens so I always fight on quality vs resolution. Do you have any advice I can try out of the box to finally win this fight and bring good quality on my pictures? I would really appreciate your response thank you in advance and keep up with your great work :)
Mark, this is yet another wonderful video. Many thanks. But I think your definition of Vibrance could be more specific. I used to work as a colorist for video, and in that field, Vibrance was identified as a tool that protected skin tones. So if you wanted to add saturation to a shot, but did not want to add saturation to the faces, you would increase the Vibrance. The Saturation control adjusts all hues equally. Thanks again for posting so much excellent content. And your photography rocks.
Excellent summary. I have a good handle on clone/heal, but those specifics about texture and luminance will make a huge difference for me. Texture does add some texture(duh) to the image but subtracting can work to remove some noise. As for vignette, the post crop version will track any crops, hence the name, and the filter version will need a redo, but in most cases not an issue if I manage my workflow. Controlling corners individually was something I hadn’t paid attention to. Again, very important for my seeing and results. Thank you.
I'm a software dev in my day job. I wonder if vibrance is how the Adobe engineers would implement "saturation" from scratch, but they needed to keep the prior one for established users. As always, learned things from your video. I like the vignette idea .... that is why I rarely use it, but never thought of your solution.
@@MarkDenneyPhoto Thanks for response. I think I’ve always used clone and not always happy with results. I learned to go to Photoshop for removal of items. So much better. I’ll have to try healing now in LR.
You can also intersect the radient vinjetting with a luminosity mask to make sure it doesnt crush the lighter parts of the sky making them looking unnaturally darkened. It works quite well in actually where there are lighter parts in the corners where you don't want the vinjetting to give such a drastic effect that it can have on highlights.
When I try to use the heal tool it acts like an eraser and it's hard to control the area I am looking to "heal" in this video it was a similar to how the tool looks for clone where it was a circle....is that a setting to change?
Cool ideas on vignettes. I'm a Ps guy so I do all my vignettes in Ps using layer masks. With the fill and opacity sliders and all of the different blend modes it's easy to get the vignettes just right.
Vibrance affects the blue channel more whereas saturation affects all channels equally, irrespective of value. Vibrance is typically used best in portraits where you want to punch up the colors in the image but hold the skin tones to more natural levels. Play with the Vibrance slider using a portrait with blue colors in it to get a better idea.
Mark, I have been told by portrait photographers that the difference between saturation and vibrance is that vibrance does not increase oranges and reds as much as other colors. They use vibrance to increase the saturation in a portrait without turning caucasian skin into an unnatural orangish hue. I haven't really investigated this any further than having heard it from portrait photographers, so take this as anecdotal. :)
Lightroom clone/heal is OK for just a few spots but I find it slow to use. When I scan old slides which can still have lots of tiny spots I use Canon DPP. It's heal is one touch and just so much faster.
I tend to use heal most often. However, when I get “bleed’ of colors from nearby objects or the edges of the photo, I switch to clone for at least the area near the object causing the bleed. I also use heal with a smallish diameter to paint around the sharp edges one sometimes gets when using clone.
I don't know if this is true, or which is which, but one thing I have heard is that one of the differences between vibrance and saturation is one of them effects skin tones more than the other. So for landscapes, it may not be as obvious.
As I get older, I find when I'm using Lightroom every few days, I really learn how to do a lot. When I don't open Lightroom for a month or more, all these cool techniques are lost again. Not sure if technology can help that 😉
Fantastic Job Mark! Next...Can you cover the difference between Tater Tots and Hash Browns? I mean they're both Fried Taters...😎! Have an Awesome Week!
🌟QUICK QUESTION: Clone or Heal? Which do you use most often?
Vibrance
Definitely Vibrance
Neither, HSL sliders and Calibration 🙌🏼
Photoshop does an overall better job with the clone stamp tool and healing brush than lightroom
well i will be using Heal more often now LOL
Mark, these days I come to your videos 50% for learning reasons and 50% for the calming atmosphere. You are like the Fred Rogers of photography. Thanks for everything you do!
I would love to hear about differences between HSL, calibration and color grading.
I've gone back and edited some older photos using what I've learned on your channel and there is a night and day difference. Especially shifting some greens toward yellows in some of my older landscape shots. Thanks for all the great info!
Music to my ears! Thanks for sharing!
If you're thinking about a part 2 to this video, what about the difference between using "contrast", using the tone curve, or using the black and white sliders?
I was thinking about that for this video as well but felt it wont go on too long - maybe next one
I've seen some amazing results with Tone Curve, I'm just not great at using that one yet. Would love some tips as well 👍🏻
Glad you asked this Andy! I’ve been using the Black and White sliders because it doesn’t mess with the saturation like Contrast, and to a lesser extent Tone Curve does. It just seems to crush the black enough to give the images some bite without loosing over all shadows detail. Or have I just convinced myself that?! With minutiae like this it’s so easy to get bogged down and hours of time slip by.
That was a good (and clear) demonstration and explanation of those important sliders I always use (sparingly, usually).
Thank you very much. Again I find myself pausing and asking notes of you pearls of knowledge and understanding. Adobe should pay you - excellent.
Vibrance protects skin tones, is not so aggressive in the yellows reds and oranges, as it is with other colours of the wheel. If you have used a photo with people, it would be more explicit.
The other differences explained in the video are very well illustrated.
Thank you, and keep doing your excellent vídeos! 👏
Once again a wealth of knowledge and skill enhancements Thanks again Mark
Thanks for your suggestions Mark!! I will try to use them in my next video about photografy on my YT channel.
Probably one of the most useful “intermediate” Lightroom video I’ve seen. Agree, good thing to learn Photoshop for Heal and Clone any day. Removing objects (other than dust spots and small particles) with Lightroom is painful and often fruitless.
Greta video Mark and thx for the review of options that can be confusing as to when to use
Thank you for the clarification on these topics. I'm slowly learning and you are a big help!
Mark, very helpful, thank you very much! Keep snapping!
Great tutorial Mark! I now understand the difference in using these sliders. Very helpful thank you. 👏👏
Thanks again Mark, this clarifies a great deal.
Thanks Mark, your video couldn't be better timed for me. Looking forward to trying these out!
Great to hear Stuart!
Thanks for this one Mark!
I like the explanations of the differences between the various tools. I would also like to see a video post focused on detailing your personal approach to choosing when to use which “flavor” and perhaps even when you would mix and match them in your own editing workflow. Knowing the difference between a rip saw and a crosscut saw is important, but equally valuable is knowing which to use when. Thanks for your posts. I genuinely like them.
Great tips Mark, love the vignette choice and how I can edit depending on the photo.
Thank you!! Love this! Very helpful.
Dang, I never knew there was a subtract under filters. I figured you just had to live with what a filter did. Thanks Mark!
👍👍
Another great editing tutorial, Mark, explaining these frequently used (and misused) tools. Thanks very much.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it Michael!
I loved this information. Many thanks.
Once again I learned more things. The radial vignette was a great idea. The heal verses clone I didn't know about but will explore using it. Thanks for the insight.
Happy to do it Dennis!
Always learning great stuff from you Mark. Understanding the tools we use just makes the process that much easier, just like learning your camera. Great video this week Mark!
Thanks a million Jerry!
Great video Mark, Its clarified a few things for me like the Vibrance/Saturation part, and I've learnt something really useful today re creating a Vignette the way you've shown. I`m now going to start using that method straight away
I really like your editing videos. Fantastic tips & tricks.
Thanks so much Kim!
I started watch your videos for some time ago, I’ve now got my first camera and I’m loving it!
Awesome to hear this!
Amazing! Thank you for these tips!
Glad to do it friend!
Really enjoy your channel Mark - always good content. The one thing I've learned is moderation. It's so easy to overdo it.
Great idea about customizing a radial filter. I have always avoided vignette for the reason you show, and have tried shifting the oval's shape and position around or even using 4 separate radial filters to solve the problem. Yours is a much easier solution!
That radial mask seems to be one of your favorites, Mark. I've been using it much more often because of your videos.
Indeed!
Thankyou for another great video that has filled gaps in my Lightroom knowledge and enhanced my photo post processing abilities. 🙂👍
Great to hear Steve!
This was really helpful, thanks so much.
Glad to hear this!
Great video. What is the main difference between clarity and contrast? Is clarity just edge contrast?
Learned some good stuff again. Thank you.
Love it - thanks Reno!
Once again a fabulous video.
Thanks Sarah!
Very helpful. Thank you 👍
Hi Mark, thanks for this video, another helpful one.
I just came from a trip to the Philippines and the country is so hazy during these summer months. When editing the pictures I took, I started using DEHAZE instead of adjusting the Exposure. This is very valuable when you're editing the sky portion of the image, especially when there's a ton of cumulus clouds, where the country has abundance of supply.
Thanks Mark, a practical use for calibration would be good.
I actually made a video on that about 2 months ago
I've been using for most of my pictures Photoshop Raw, it is quicker even I have also lightroom I only use it for pictures thar require more advanced adjustment, thanks for all your lessons.
I had stopped using vignettes because it seems most professional photographers hate them; but I think I'd like to try this method. Also I had not considered using a brush mask to reduce the effect of another mask in some areas. I can see this making a big difference in my editing skills! Thanks!
It seems Vibrance is a kind of contrast slider.
Professional photogs still use vignettes quite a bit. It’s a great way to direct the eye to the focal point of an image. They’re just good at hiding it and making it seem natural.
Try using the masking method to vignette your photos but don’t use exposure to darken the vignette. Instead, use the shadows or blacks or curves adjustments to only affect the darker parts of the image and not affect the highlights. This hides your vignette better and gives a more natural feeling to the resulting vignette. A dead giveaway is when the highlights are darkened on the vignette. This wouldn’t occur naturally.
@@Top_o_da_foodDChain Great tip! Thanks! I think I'll have fun playing with this. I had forgotten all about my desire to try this method. Thanks for reminding me. 😀
@@carolynvines2027 yup! Sure thing. I came across this guy’s videos recently so it showed up on my feed a bit late 😁
Hey brother. I saw your video. Thank you for your help. You explained it perfect.
Anytime my friend!
Thanks Mark. Just found your channel a little while ago and am really enjoying the info you share. Also listened to a podcast recently where you shared your journey (Landscape Photography World with David Johnston I think?).
My question is re vignetting, and I apologise if you've answered it elsewhere, when in your workflow do you apply your vignette? Some I've seen apply it really early and others just before publishing.
I know it's not a first world problem but would appreciate your thoughts.
What zoom % do you use best to judge sharpness of a picture and if a lens performs well. Do you go beyond 100% ? I have no idea at what % you start calling it pixel peeping. Thank you for youtube chanel.love it 😍
Thanks for the tips for editing in Lightroom. I’m curious, many Fuji shooters have gone to Capture One for editing raw files. What is your main cataloging and editing tools?
Superb video. Learned a lot.
Thanks so much!
Nice video, you give me a lot to consider
Mark, Great Video. I never really used the "heal" spot removal before always just the "clone". Also the the vibrance vs saturation discussion was great. Thanks
Great to hear you enjoyed it!
Thanks!
Great video!
I can make the same effect with the conventional vignette adjustment. You can change the shape, and midpoint, and you can always use the radial or brush masks to adjust locally, but I find the vignette tool is more natural looking
Hello Mark, great super helpful video my friend, I've benn following you for a wile and is also thank to you if I invested in photography wich is my passion. Unfortunately only few can make a living out of it and therefore it remains an hobby :( I have a couple of questions: the first one (i know you prefer Lightroom) but in light of the new technology applied, do you still think lightroom is better than photoshop? The second one is more personal, as hobby, I cannot afford expensive lens so I always fight on quality vs resolution. Do you have any advice I can try out of the box to finally win this fight and bring good quality on my pictures? I would really appreciate your response thank you in advance and keep up with your great work :)
Nice. Thank you.
Gladly Jim!
I use the old standalone LR6 as my editing tool. What should I use in place of the radial vignette? Many thanks for a great video.
Mark, this is yet another wonderful video. Many thanks. But I think your definition of Vibrance could be more specific. I used to work as a colorist for video, and in that field, Vibrance was identified as a tool that protected skin tones. So if you wanted to add saturation to a shot, but did not want to add saturation to the faces, you would increase the Vibrance. The Saturation control adjusts all hues equally. Thanks again for posting so much excellent content. And your photography rocks.
Useful nuggets there. 👍🥂
Hey Mark, what's the Capture One "equivalent" of what you've explained in the video? Thanks and have a good time.
Excellent summary. I have a good handle on clone/heal, but those specifics about texture and luminance will make a huge difference for me. Texture does add some texture(duh) to the image but subtracting can work to remove some noise. As for vignette, the post crop version will track any crops, hence the name, and the filter version will need a redo, but in most cases not an issue if I manage my workflow. Controlling corners individually was something I hadn’t paid attention to. Again, very important for my seeing and results. Thank you.
Thanks so much Don - glad to hear the episode was helpful!
Love it Mark, how do you learn all this stuff?
Lots of mistakes🤣
I'm a software dev in my day job. I wonder if vibrance is how the Adobe engineers would implement "saturation" from scratch, but they needed to keep the prior one for established users.
As always, learned things from your video. I like the vignette idea .... that is why I rarely use it, but never thought of your solution.
Great!!
What about dehaze? Can you please compare the three. I am never sure what to use and when.
👍👍
Mark, one of your best video's ! Dumb question, how did shrink image size when demonstrating Radial Tool. Just Option /minus ? Thanks
Thanks Ed! You can also click the images size options to the right of the thumbnail in the upper left hand corner of your screen.
@@MarkDenneyPhoto Thanks for response. I think I’ve always used clone and not always happy with results. I learned to go to Photoshop for removal of items. So much better. I’ll have to try healing now in LR.
You can also intersect the radient vinjetting with a luminosity mask to make sure it doesnt crush the lighter parts of the sky making them looking unnaturally darkened.
It works quite well in actually where there are lighter parts in the corners where you don't want the vinjetting to give such a drastic effect that it can have on highlights.
When I try to use the heal tool it acts like an eraser and it's hard to control the area I am looking to "heal" in this video it was a similar to how the tool looks for clone where it was a circle....is that a setting to change?
Cool ideas on vignettes. I'm a Ps guy so I do all my vignettes in Ps using layer masks. With the fill and opacity sliders and all of the different blend modes it's easy to get the vignettes just right.
Thanks Daniel!
Wow, I don't know how I could have missed the heal tool completely! I will be testing it from now on.
I think you'll find it works better for most situations
Vibrance affects the blue channel more whereas saturation affects all channels equally, irrespective of value. Vibrance is typically used best in portraits where you want to punch up the colors in the image but hold the skin tones to more natural levels. Play with the Vibrance slider using a portrait with blue colors in it to get a better idea.
Mark, I have been told by portrait photographers that the difference between saturation and vibrance is that vibrance does not increase oranges and reds as much as other colors. They use vibrance to increase the saturation in a portrait without turning caucasian skin into an unnatural orangish hue. I haven't really investigated this any further than having heard it from portrait photographers, so take this as anecdotal. :)
How do you set the color temperature on a cloudy day?
Do you ever change the saturation of a single color? If so, can you give an example of when you would do that.
I was literally having this issue this morning during an edit and I was like damn… why can’t I adjust the vignette. Awesome video. Thanks!!
Lightroom clone/heal is OK for just a few spots but I find it slow to use. When I scan old slides which can still have lots of tiny spots I use Canon DPP. It's heal is one touch and just so much faster.
I never use clarity or texture. Ever. I love the dehaze slider though
very useful
Thank you!
nice!
I tend to use heal most often. However, when I get “bleed’ of colors from nearby objects or the edges of the photo, I switch to clone for at least the area near the object causing the bleed. I also use heal with a smallish diameter to paint around the sharp edges one sometimes gets when using clone.
That's a great way to put it!
I don't know if this is true, or which is which, but one thing I have heard is that one of the differences between vibrance and saturation is one of them effects skin tones more than the other. So for landscapes, it may not be as obvious.
Yep - that is true
In most cases my clarity slider goes to the left, just a little bit.
The texture goes to the right in many cases, but always just a tiny bit.
As I get older, I find when I'm using Lightroom every few days, I really learn how to do a lot. When I don't open Lightroom for a month or more, all these cool techniques are lost again. Not sure if technology can help that 😉
I have the same issue with other things as well - if I dont use it, I forget it
Other than dust spots or similar, I switch to Photoshop to remove items. Its Lightrooms, poorest feature in my opinion.
I'll put you in my will.
🙏
I never use clone in LR and really don't use healing there anymore either. Photoshop is so much faster and better and I probably use each 50/50.
Fantastic Job Mark! Next...Can you cover the difference between Tater Tots and Hash Browns? I mean they're both Fried Taters...😎! Have an Awesome Week!
Hahahah! I would like to know the difference there as well - I love them both!
Got to laugh at ourselves
.We buy corrected lenses for vignette, and then add it back!
Clone
👍👍
Best editing detail? get it right in camera..
Thanks, that was very helpful!
Thanks!
Thanks!