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@@worldisfilledb you definitely did not watch the video , the players get a huge bonus if the win the world cups , which women have done 4 times , and men haven't and won't ever.
Very true. It would be ironic if Biden went through with his threat to pull US team funding for that would probably mean the women would have to take a pay cut, assuming they would be able to play at all.
If government stepped into this issue in any way I would shut down the team I owned. Close the stadiums and pay to have it tore down. Lay off the teams and give them all the finger.
Sadly they cannot renegotiate a contracted agreement cause that will also open up the ability for your plumber to go to court and renegotiate the quotes they've given you. As it stands, if a plumber quotes you $100 for a $200 job and you accept, they are bound to suck up the loss. I'd rather not see a policy change that would allow crappy workers to underbid and then give you a massive bill at the end cause they "renegotiated"
Additionally they want more benefits than the men. Same money but they want employee benefits. Me personally you should give employee benefits to men, because I know they’re all be some boycott to the women’s league saying taking away necessities.
@@ElBarcoGaming equal payment structure. But the women wanted more guaranteed income rather than bonuses linked to winning. They also wanted benefits like heath insurance. They were offered an identical payment structure as the men but turned it down. It was only after they saw how much they COULD HAVE earned, that they started to make a stink. They don’t tell you this side of the story
They just did that so they'd get benefits that they could demand to keep on top of equal pay. It was an intentional ploy imo, I mean it took just 2 years for them to turn around.
No. It should be pure meritocracy of soccer skill. This is how you remove the inequity of fame and gender. So the women's national team should make just as much profit as middle school male championship teams.
Facts she's well aware of. I can't imagine the ego it takes to give that long winded speech about how hard done by the women's US team are when she knows full well they aren't being ripped off. Completely callus, opportunistic and greedy a person she must be. Not to mention extremely arrogant. Horrible individual.
if female soccer players get paid the same as men because they win world cups then boys under 15 soccer teams should get paid the same as the national womens team for beating the national womens team.
@@TheBelrick this is the wrong argument...equal pay is regardless of performance. 🤷🏻♂️ (aka this is the common media underlying message, not my personal perspective)
As a female this makes me embarrassed, embarrassed because this isnt what the women of the past were fighting for. WE HAVE EQUAL PAY! This is ridiculous, thank you Nate for bringing this to the publics view. To the WNT, GROW UP and act like adults.
there was never even a talk about female responsibilities or accountabilities. Nowadays women having more rights while at the same time having less responsibilities. To this day women refuse to even talk about it.
because Biden is a Gullible enabler you could tell him that the report that says UK isn't institutionally racist is a sign of White Superiority and if you were a minority he would believe you without doing the research for himself
You may have a few youtube pundits who are probably called women haters calling the b.s. but other than that maybe a few people from fox news would but it don't fits CNN or MSNBC narratives
Because if it suits the narrative it’s ok.. same way if you break the law it’s ok to run and resist, and if you get hurt or killed it’s not your fault. Ok if you cause damage to private or public property and there’s an outrage causing issue it’s ok too....
Because Biden is an idiot that needs to be reminded to breathe and it suits the social justice "woke" everyone that isn't a white male is a victim narrative.
As the father of a daughter that lives eats and breathes soccer, I took interest and educated myself early in this lawsuit to be able to provide her the facts. This is absolutely the best single source presentation of those facts I have seen. Thank you for ALL of your fact videos its so rare today to see honest presentation of facts as you present. Keep up the great work.
Except for the parts where he lies, like when he says the women get all these special employee benefits and the men don't get any, which is blatantly untrue. In some cases, like where he mentions how the women get $1.50 per ticket sold, he conveniently just never mentions that the men get $1.70 per ticket sold.
@@RachelDavis705 well, women still get paid more in total from their national team duties. Matter of fact, there's no crowd right now due to covid so what you are saying is true, it doesn't matter since both teams won't get no ticket percentage
@@RachelDavis705 you mention "parts where he lies" but bring up one data point: ticket sales. Being such a politicized topic, it is hard to find exact information, so I'm unable to easily find the data. 1) What citation states that the men earn $1.70 per ticket sold? 2) What other data points has Nate mislead his viewers about?
@@mgancarzjr Actually, this video was wrong (even more wrong than I realized), and it threw me off. The women actually earned $1.20 per ticket sale, (not $1.50 like this idiot claimed) and the information this idiot chose to leave out is that the men earned $1.50 per ticket sale. It's easy to google, and both of the CBAs are in the legal documents, so if this TH-camr wasn't a fake lawyer, he would've used both the CBAs to make an honest comparison, which show the ticket prices. Also, 2015 through now, the women have also sold more tickets and attracted bigger crowds than the men. I'm not saying one side is right or wrong in this lawsuit, but to portray this as the woman being unreasonable requires straight-up lying or ignorance of the facts.
@@RachelDavis705 repeating the term "idiot" doesn't bolster your claim. It makes you look unreasonable. I've asked for a citation about per-ticket income, but you've yet to provide one. I did find an article which referenced some numbers, but it also had bonuses to ticket sales for certain benchmarks. On the second point, you've yet to provide any other discrepancies. Is the sole discrepancy the ticket revenue, or are there other ignored bonuses/benefits that the men receive?
Honestly yeah if I was the men's team I would be asking to get paid as much as the women's team lmao. The women get paid more like wtf. The only privilege that they have over the women's team is the clubs, but that's not the soccer association's job nor fault.
Why the men's team haven't won jack!...the women's team deserves to be paid more but if indeed they are being paid more this lawsuit is completely ridiculous!
@@aduad The women's team lost to FC Dallas' U15 squad lmao. Literally 14 year old boys beat our WNT so wtf are you talking about they deserve to be paid more? They win because literally no other country in the world had an actual professional womens soccer team. And now that countries like England, Germany, and France are actually building real teams to compete, they're beating the US about half the time they play each other. They'll surpass us in a couple years just like in mens soccer.
@@aduad the women's team argues that they should be paid as much as the men and that its discrimination against them if they are not. Using their own logic and the findings of the court its the men who are being discriminated against.
I am stunned at how inept US Soccer is at explaining this to the press/public. Every time the WNT say they are being paid less, the counter statement should clearly say they are being paid more and list all the benefits that WNT get. They might have won the case, but they clearly are losing in the court of public opinion.
It's not that they are bad at explaining it, it's that their explanations are published through press conferences which are only delivered in sound bites that are selected to paint the picture that fits a narrative.
Not end of case there If they got offered the same deal, turned it down for commonly NOT known benefits and then demand the same paychecks as well... I get this feeling they planned this from the beginning, in order to have all the same income and hopefully keep the extra benefits This is so ridiculous
I don't think its dishonesty. I think it is a lack of critical thinking which is directly linked to the destruction of the education system wrought by political parties who recognize that a stupid population is easy to manipulate. It takes a working brain to be able to look at the big picture like considering benefits (both real and intangible) plus salary when evaluating compensation. When your education system is afraid to teach evolution, be honest about sexuality, religion and race relations for example, you have an education system that fails everyone. When your education system destroys free thought and critical thinking your people forget how to question the validity of what they are presented. What the politicians don't realize is that they did indeed make the population easy to manipulate, not just by the political parties, but easy to manipulate by any special interest group that has an axe to grind. It was Lincoln who said "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." but you can skew that in either direction if you make your population less or more educated. These athletes were given a soundbite and took it as truth from the school of tick-tock and Instagram.
I think females did a better choice !! By choosing that service actually...men just gets money at the end of the day... But when u have insurances like that ..that makes you .. and your family life much better ...
The men's worldcup revenue is 5.36b while the women's cup yields roughly 131m. The women earned far more in relation to the profits they generate and still they want more.
@@georgebolton1798 Men's football yields more money than women's football. World cup or not, men's football draws more viewers which is the main factor for it's revenue. Besides the US women effectively earned more than the US men, not taking the overall yield in equation.
@@georgebolton1798 I think his argument is that there is a larger audience for men’s soccer which means the men’s team could’ve brought in much more revenue compared to the women’s team. Therefore they would deserve a higher payout compared to the women’s team.
Hahaha so true! In my Opinion you are not allowed to complain about the mess you build your self. They are very good at the moment. So they win and with the mens contract they would have earned more. But they wanted the safer option and now have not the money they could have got, but stil a very lot. No way that‘s discrimination in my opinion
Yeah and I'm so disappointed in the us president, For being a dumb clown and saying stuff like equal pay or else go to someplace else for world cup funding. Like which competition is more valuable at moment. The heck is that guy thinking. probably did that to win his elections. you know pushing the equal pay card to gain more votes. What a dumbass fool.
I was uneducated and considered this argument over at "It's based on ticket sales. The men's team generates more income, and they are paid accordingly. Thank you for opening my eyes. This is so much worse than I had imagined.
Same!! Much worse than I imagined too, but very entertaining, I just subbed cos of his lawsuit against Christopher Bouzy and man there's some good stuff on there!!! Just factual stuff.
I like how they talk about how men would get more money for winning the World Cup when the US Men haven’t won a World Cup but US women have won 4. So basically they got that 400k while the men got none.
@Danny Buck you ignore the fact that the bonus for winning the world cup is directly related to the prize the US soccer federation gets from FIFA in case of winning, and those numbers are 42 million for man WC, and 4 million for women WC. the difference in the amount of money they move from all sources, call it TV, tickets, sponsors.... is abysmal, it makes all other aspects of this matter irrelevant, US Women national team should be ashamed.
That certainly would have been the honorable thing to do, but of course we're talking about entitled people who don't actually care as much about equality as they claim to 😅
It’s been that way for a long time. “News” media doesn’t need to be truthful or factual anymore, they’re just entertainment and opinion pieces. Been that way for nearly 2 decades
ok so wether you agree or not with wage gap, lets look at the facts and how this TH-cam is either or purpose ignoring all the information or presenting it in bad faith. Lets look at specific the details bright up here. Men had employee benefits in addition to salary. When woman was offered mens deal they where not offered the same deal, they where offered pay, but not the employee benefits that the men got included. So what Nate here is saying is that Option A for woman is the same as A+B for men bc reasons that fit his narrative. If you are going to argue that the woman did get same deal you also need to explain that they dd not get the employee benefits the men did. Just bc it comes from a different agreement does not mean you can disregard it for the men but count it as salary for the woman. If you look up the calculations the judge made as well if you look int the case you do fins that his calculations are somewhat wrong. He compared win salary for woman with lose salary for men in short terms. So for woman to have equal salary as the judge pointed out they need to win most of the cases while the men can lose same amount. It does nt matter wether you agree with gender gap or nt I really hate those populists that play on emotions over facts and presenting it in full, just to get more views or fit a false narrative, like Nate here did just now. This is also reason why you have so much untrustworthy media in US as well as the divisive culture war going on
Imagine performing to an audience that's 90% smaller, or worse, and then arguing that you should be paid as if you performed to a 100% audience. Absolute madness.
How was it unbalanced? He read directly from court documents and played sound bites from and showed official pay structure. If it felt unbalanced, it's because the situation is unbalanced...in favor, surprisingly by just how much, of the women.
@@justalittlebitmo Right, and they have no basis to even argue about fairness of pay because they are in the business of Sport Entertainment. The key work being entertainment - the size of the audience is what is supposed to dictate pay in entertainment, there's no such thing as "doing the same job" otherwise lower league footballers would be paid the same as D1 players, or music artists would be paid the same, actors etc. Women are paid less because the audience is much much smaller. Look at the WNBA and NBA, the NBA massively subsidises the WNBA and they still are unprofitable, yet their women want more money and have the nerve to even ask for as much as the men make despite not being able to draw enough of an audience to justify the pay they are already getting! It's insanity and ironically sexist.
@@ShutThePuck Couldn't agree more! I think realistically what they should be advocating for is to attract as much audience to buy tickets, merch and otherwise support their proffesional clubs, which will additionally generate more lucrative sponsorship deals, bigger TV broadcasting deals etc. etc., ultimately resulting in better wages and benefits for the players. This can be I think mostly achieved in sports like handball, tennis, volleyball, track & field, swimming and some winter sports, however for soccer / football it is quite hard, women's games being in general much less spectacular compared to men's games for the average spectator.
Let them play against each other..the men vs the women...lets see how many bone crushing, chilling, hard crunching tackles and skills not to forget, will come onto the pitch to show just whos able to survive or even win a game...there should be a best of 2 games to decide overall...that would be fair to say the least in soccer...
@@davidarchangels6500 then they will hire a bunch of men to claim they are trans athletes to play against the men's team. Joe Biden's contribution to women's sports. Yet purple hair lady had no problem accepting a WH invitation from THAT guy.
@@davidarchangels6500 Mate, it is soccer, there are no crushing tackles. That said, I am a rugby player, and if you want to put me on a women's team, the results would be friggin' ugly. I could easily cripple everyone on the other team, if I honestly tried. Edit: Thinking about it, soccer might be the most egalitarian sport, given that it doesn't require that much athleticism, (how much upper body strength is required?) but still the gender gap is completely insurmountable.
They conflate the word Equal for Equity. They are meaning Equity, Equity means the same identical outcome despite how it is achieved. So the person that sits on their ass not doing any of the work will have *Equity* reward them to the same rate of pay and benefits for the person that works long and hard and puts in overtime and pays taxes etc. So anytime they SAY *Equity*, know they are trying to conjure up the concept of *Equality* while really meaning equity. When they say *Equality* but say they need the same outcome or implement "structural reform", they are going for *Equity* not Equality.
@@mattstorey7256 well even if they want equity, they'll end up with less than what they get. Spoiled brats that got beaten by a boys highschool soccer team.
The truth is that if our best athletes played soccer and not football or basketball we would win the world cup. Check the gold medals. Soccer is developing more and more in the US while other countries have focused on it for over 100 years.
Well they DO in theory. But I am not sure if the propability of this happening is even above 1%... I'd say (without wanting to be mean to those players) that it is more likely that hell freezes over.
I mean imagine a guy like LeBron (not as tall maybe) playing soccer all his life with the same work ethic dude would be a monster, we have the athletic talent just not in soccer
There's another factor. The US men's soccer team is horrible. They should pay us to watch. Of course it wouldn't cost them anything because they are so terrible they didn't even qualify for the Olympics.
@@AxolPiezz no he’s got a point. It’s like how the WNBA isn’t as good as the NBA and are paid less and they play the victim card when seriously it’s because it’s less memorable and sometimes borderline unwatchable
@@chrisaustin9949 I’m not really into soccer, but wouldn’t another factor be viewership? Which teams ranks in the most revenue, what do people prefer watching? I’m not into soccer so I don’t really know which team ranks in more revenue for the event, but I would assume men’s soccer does.
I'm surprised I'm just finding your channel now. Very good analysis, and you're a great communicator. I'm glad to now be part of the Nate The Lawyer sub squad.
Women’s soccer team: We want equality Soccer Federation: Sure, although you will have to give up your benefits. Women’s soccer team: I meant we want equity.
"I mean, we want equality when it benefits us" - Women's soccer team true meaning. They are so strong and independent, they don't need a man. Trust me, they will be fine, even when we take away their benefits
Nah, usa male soccer team isnt relevant in the world. It will never win a world cup, womans team got 4. By the logic they should recieve much more than men
@@paredescp yet they still believe that they are being treated less than. Their new attitude cost them medals, they chose politics over the game and continue to do so. As soon as the male soccer team wins a medal and keeps out of politics the woman’s soccer team will be forgotten.
@@paredescp that's one side of the story but on the other hand the viewership of men soccer in general is way higher than women's i will give a example not about genders this year Argentina men national team won the copa America cup but got a winning prize less than turkey which ranked last Euro cup why? Because of the viewership and another example why people argue that Cristiano Ronaldo's numbers with his national team (Portugal) is better the Messi's numbers with his national team (Argentina) (although they have similar number) because winning Euro cup is harder than winning copa america cup in summary women's cups has low viewership and is easier to achieve. The counter argument for that they are top of their league the should get paid as top. That's is the example of Argentina getting paid less than turkey. Not to hate on women if u watched the skills that women provide it's so bad and we all remember that women national soccer team has lost to a 17 years old boys team which says alot. Hope u get my point ♥️♥️
The men can't win the world cup if their lives depended on it. The women do win and taking away the amount listed for a world cup win for all the players, the women make less.
You know what's crazy. You can present this to certain people and they will say it's false just because they don't like what is said and refuse to listen.
I pointed out the huge discrepancy in skill between the men and women teams. The women’s team got beat by a high school boys team. The men’s team literally takes on the best soccer players in the world. So to act like they are performing at the same job level is ridiculous. That’s like saying Ronda Rousey was just as good Brock Lesnar. Both were champs but the competition was waaaaay different.
With all this information already public, it's hard to wrap my head around how this case could have made it as far as it did. Surely, somewhere along the line, the lawyers got together and explained to their clients "This will never work, you're trying to tell people 2+2=3" This conversation had to happen, and the soccer ladies still said "Yeah, what's the problem?"
The lawyers got paid to forward their arguments, so they're happy the longer it drags out lol. But internally, absolutely they knew this wouldn't stick from the moment they took the case
I was on my way to a WNBA game when I stopped at a gas station for snacks. I left the two tickets on my dash board without thinking too much of it. When I came back out my window was smashed and now there were four tickets on the dash.
Imagine being able to try and renege on a contract that you signed, suing when it doesn't work and when that falls through having the president back you up even though your lying. Women in the western world are so oppressed.
@@billburr5881 Rapinoe would not be able to earn a basic wage if she was playing in the man's game in the UK lowest division, she does not possess the skill nor the physicality, and yet because she is a woman, she earn at least four time as much then those man. Player in the English woman's Super League teams know that until they can attract the same spectators, and interest as man they cannot expect to earn the same. The difference in the amount of money generated in the man's world cup is astronomic when compared with the money generated in the woman's world cup tournament. I am actually a fan of the woman English super league, and when televised watch all woman matches, but you would have to pay me to watch, arrogant, talentless, big headed, loud mouth, Rapinoe. WTF Biden knows about soccer contracts for him to take sides?
How women view the world, in general - I want what benefits me in the moment and I don't want any of the costs, downsides, duties, responsibilities, ect that are commensurate with those benefits, I want the benefits but I want to defer the costs to others (usually men).
This video doesnt even mention that the mans world cup makes several times the money of the womens world cup. Percentage wise, the women get paid way more for what they actually generate
Quite easy to understand: Men's 2018 WC brought in 4+ BILLIONS, the Women's 2019 WC brought in 400M. You're a 100% right. In percentage, women are paid almost 35% more than men.
@@EugeneBuvard yes, but the men didn't get paid for the 2018 world cup beause they weren't in it. But if they had been they would have brought in a lot more money, hence the improved bonus structure.
Fantastic overview. There's a few even deeper layers to this that sometimes is hard for the casual viewer not familiar with international soccer to understand. In the men's game, their day job is with their clubs (if they're national team players, it usually means they are elite players and bring big paychecks from their clubs). Getting called up for the national team is the utmost honor and goal for a player, but there's vicious competition for each spot and you might get a few calls in and then never again. For the USWNT, their day job IS the national team. They pay salary, benefits and bonuses, and because of that they are basically guaranteed the call up for a whole year. The US womens league is subsidized by the federation, and the US federation puts on multiple tournaments a year just for the womens NT to get playing time. They invite a couple other teams as punching bags so Carli Lloyd can score 30 goals per round. This doesnt happen for the men. They follow the FIFA calendar for international breaks, when their clubs can release them to play for their national teams. The clubs in the womens US league are obligated to release the national team players every other month, while the league is still going. These players are also "designated players" in their clubs, which means the league doesn't have a cap on their club salary. In the world stage, the USWNT are the most priviledged female sports team IN THE WORLD. There were teams in last WC who's entire roster were amateour players who have other day jobs and are not even paid to play soccer professionally. This is why they are so dominant. They are the epitome of the rich girls club who wins everything, and there's nothing remarkable about that.
So glad someone pointed this out because I was just about to. This should be the most upvoted comment on the video. There’s even a few other deeper layers like how the federation incentivizes the women to stay in the NWSL (rather than go abroad) with guaranteed $60K+. Big name players in the NWSL keeps butts in seats so the federation is also, in a roundabout way, supporting the growth of the women’s game in America under this current pay structure.
@@777Looper You can not have 'good' without 'true'. If we live in a rational universe (and it appears we do, rational being one which is governed by cause and effect, laws which are consistent and universal) then the only way to achieve outcomes which are fit to purpose is to base them in observable, rational reality. Attempting to achieve outcomes which are not based in rational, observable, reality, can only result in putting in place programs, laws, beliefs, and systems which exist in opposition to reality. These systems will fail, in every instance, to account for and correct what is real. The result of the failure of the system to achieve its stated goals will lead to more suffering which will need further 'corrected' which will lead to even further deviation from reality and worse outcomes. The only way in which good outcomes can be achieved is by basing the systems in rational, observable reality, based in truth.
I'm guessing its the latter...but the stupidity come in when the don't understand that sooner or later people will see thru th BS (Thanks to peeps like Nate et al)
Both, but also... they’re entitled. Western women are quite pampered these days. Their voices ring loud on the internet, and the things they want are often handed to them.
I think they just grifting liars personally led by a man hating, pink haired, self aggrandizing bully who was caught cold heartedly dismissing a little girl who just wanted her to sign her soccer ball. One of the most callous displays of ego I've ever seen. Not to mention her teammates surrounding her did nothing to call her on her prim a donna behavior. None of them could be bothered by a little 8 year old girl who just wanted to meet her hero. So much for empowering girls. Personally, in that act alone, I dont think they deserve to have any of their problems see the light of day. Their lying, spoiled, divas who think they're better than you and me. Soccer isnt life, but being a good person is, on that point they're woefully short of the goal.
They were offered the same pay structure. But the amount they were offered was very different. The quote says they were offered a "pay to play proposal similar to." People are conflating this to mean the Women were offered the same amount of money. That is simply untrue, and people (like this guy) who keep intentionally conflating these two things are liars trying to trick you.
@@RichardManion because of their agreement the players were guaranteed roster spots and that kept many hopefuls on the outside when in Men’s Soccer you are never guaranteed a call up unless you are Messi, Ronaldo or Neymar! And they play on different National Teams.
@@RichardManion even if it were lower, it says similar. But then they fought for a different payment plan, and got it, giving them a better situation and them making more guaranteed money. They are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
Well, as socialism (in the term's pregnant meaning) kills the incentives to do anything and chokes the freedom of expression and thought, the only thing that is "distributed" in the long run is opression, misery and poverty.
Video is great, but I would understand people disliking it to express frustration at the fact that, though they're not being discriminated in terms of pay, the Women's national team is on unequal footing by needing those benefits to begin with. Their clubs don't provide them.
Textbook Modern Feminism, they were offered the exact same as the men and said it wasn’t good enough. Then when given exactly what they asked for they demanded more.
Hold on. Let us not labeled this as feminism. This is simply a counter party who negotiated a bad deal, who is now trying to exit the agreement and force a renegotiation by attempting to use a legal hook to get the courts to terminate the old deal. This happens in business all the time.
its not feminism or the way business goes. it is a shakedown. and when they get the first demand, that is the entree to the next ask and the next. all these leftist minority groups act the same. remember the 90s? gays pushed for civil union and benefits as if that were the goal. no, it was only about opening the door a crack then pushing for their real agenda. In this case the women amd Biden are blatantly manipulating us and hiding the facts. then when they realized they outsmarted themselves wanted a re-do. comical the way they lie and manipulate is kind of like the fabricated tweets and selectively edited video to manipulate opinion and implicate Trump in inciting the mostly peaceful protest at the Capitol in January. That effoft ended with whimper and a quick acquittal
@@J_Madison Inaccurate... or rather imprecise. Feminism (or feminist ideal) is but a tool for this particular shakedown. Anyway, it's been thwarted and justice prevailed this time... As we say ourselves: take the win for once, there's gonna be plenty of horrible times ahead.
This was exactly what I’ve been looking for. You cannot imagine the amount of conservative/liberal media posts I had to go through just to find a video that explained what was actually happening. Thanks
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid kid. Once you get older and your brain is completely formed, you will start to be able to separate the wheat of the truth from the chaff of the bullshit. Good luck with the socialism you are being conned into voting for.
No matter ones political affiliation, it is so annoying to find a video hoping it will tell you facts only to just shove some other stuff in your face. I'm a conservative, and many of the "conservative" videos on here try shoving some kind of personal opinion in my face I just don't want to hear because usually it's crazy lol
@@lennoxsommerville7451 nothings wrong with Canada but Americans feel like they're sooo much more superior than Canadians that the loss is gotta hurt loool
@derp derpin your funny democrats ignore men and women are biologically different spend more than have let more people die because there's a few bad cops and more recent give 85 billion dollars to terrorists and let Americans and afghans be left in place where if you agree with a religion you be beat and murdered so no more soldiers will die even none have for a year and a half until now because the taliban will let Afghanistan be a hot spot for terrorists
I'd say it's because employers are willing to pay more so the work actually gets done, but if we're being honest employers are never willing to pay more.
If men and women had the same level of productivity throughout their career, in any industry, yet they can pay women less, only women would be hired. Why pay men more to get the same level of productivity?
I work in a heavy construction factory. there are some jobs there that women are not allowed to do simply because their bodies are weaker. then, there are jobs that the women simply will not do--just yesterday I had a woman tell me she had to wait for a guy to come and tighten these nuts on an axle cuz she can't. I seem to remember that just a few months ago we had this little tiny guy do that job, he simply added an extension to the torque wrench making it possible for him to get the pressure needed. she could have done the same, she just didn't want to...
The wage gap isn't that women get paid less for the same job, it's that women don't have the same opportunities as men. This soccer fiasco is distracting from the real problems women face in trying to get the same pay as men. Problems like men being given bigger and better projects, men being given more opportunities and chances to rise to the top of companies, men preferring to work with other men than risk working on equal ground with a woman or lord forbid working under a woman. It's not about the paychecks they get, it's about the paychecks they're not offered.
They never mention that there is zero chance of the men's team ever winning the World Cup. They might as well tell them they get a billion dollar bonus if they win.
It is probably worth noting that they have so much success given the deal they got. Perhaps the men's team should look into getting the women's deal. Lol.
@@bigdikbubls how is this an argument against his point? You need a good team to win, one single player cant win. Look at sweden they even kicked out the best player they ever had and played better afterwards..
@@theoriginalKland indeed. Every time I try to bring up that the pay gap isn't a real thing, everyone around me gets mad and immediately Shops listening. Frustrating, really. I mean, it's real in some countries, but some countries also still are able to legally beat your wives and kids, so that's that. In no first World country is a wage gap present
@@KryptoKn8 u could argue that it does exist if we take the reasons as to why the number is bigger as the sistemic consequences of a patriarchal culture
That is where they trick you.. they pretend not to understand , so they ignore the truth and choose to prey on people's feelings , emotions and outrage... its the whole 'How dare you' nonsense all over again.
Imagine 3 people in a meeting having a conversation that they all know is bullsh*t but they’re all talking to each other like they’re onto something. That’s literally what this soccer player and the president + Vice President were doing.
This has been the case for 50 years, we literally were made to believe it was a big deal when a 29 year old Billie Jean King beat a 55 year old Bobby Riggs. Then we get hammered with movies where a 115 lb women beats up 225 lb men.
I don’t think they know it’s bs, mate. I imagine that they truly believe it because they want to believe it. Power, vengeance and a dash of hatred is all the recipe needs.
This reminds me of a woman I worked with in the Air Force who constantly complained she was discriminated against and paid less than the men around her. The military pays entirely on rank and time in service, there's no consideration for gender or age, everyone in the same ranks and years in service gets paid the same. The men around her she complained about were higher rank with more years of service.
@@johnnyfung4813 Irrelevant. Not every soldier can rise in ranks. Mathematically impossible. There will always be more people at lower ranks than higher ranks. This is true in every job, in every profession. All that matters is pay compared to people at similar levels of experience and position. I don't know the military firsthand, but I would presume that even a typical soldier with 15 years of experience gets paid more than the same rank soldier with 2 years experience.
@@danm5911 apparently, there is a base pay per rank which you can look up. Any increases from there depends on what job you are doing, how long you've been there, how successful you've been, etc. in a meritocratic fashion
Nope, the women’s soccer team is definitely not being discriminated against. Thank you Nate for the thoroughness of your video in regards to this topic, in a time when every news outlets’ goal is to create outrage you have done a better job than the journalists out there. Love from Vegas ✌🏼
and its not even about club football in which men get paid more because well its way more popular than women's football if you ask a average football fan to name 5 players from both the mens and the womens team the chances are he will be able to name the men quicker and would probably have to look up the womens team.
@@breandanm3298 I'm inclined to belive there is some truth to his argument. But I'm not gonna check because American football players such men and women.
How could you legitimately walk into a court room and say "we are being paid different because we are women" when you have a legally binding CBA that *YOU* decided on. How do you not get laughed out of the courts?
Because they know if they had gotten the right (activist) judge that they would have won…even though their case had no legal merit. Because our “justice” system has been transformed into a “social justice” system. It won’t matter how law-abiding you are or that you haven’t broken a single law; if BLM or MeToo puts a target on your back, you’re going to prison. And it won’t matter how corrupt the prosecutors are or how many rules/laws they break to put you there.
The worst part is you have news channels spreading this lie and further making this gender pay gap claim which is false. They don't tell you that women have stuck to service industries, and teaching. When you end up doing the average amount of money each gender makes the men make more not because companies like paying them more, but because they do very different jobs. They don't tell you about how much more hazardous the jobs that men do are, they don't tell you that men work more on average, and they forget to tell you that women take time off to have children and thus will not have the same experience level as the men.
I don't know how he held in his opinions with the blatant manipulative thievery that the USWNT is doing. But good on him. I would have said so many things calling them out, after saying the facts, because they deserve it, because what they're doing is literal legal thievery.
The women should be given the same deal and have them compete against the men on the field, now that's what true equality looks like. If the women's team win more than men, good for them. If they can't win a single game against men teams, well, tough luck, they asked for equality and now they get it.
I don't get it either. Just like in Sapkowski's (author of "The Witcher" book series) case. He was offered a share in profits of "The Witcher" video games made by CDPR, but he refused and wanted a one-time payment (of his choice). Then after a decade he sued CDPR for an "unjust deal" and wanted more money. His reasoning was: "If CDPR made so much money on games based on my books, it's only natural they should pay me more for the rights to the franchise".
@@Skywalker96214 Best thing. They can play against males. There are no rules for woman to not play against men. There are rules for men to not play in the women's league. But the so called "best soccer team" loses against 15 year old males. So i don't see them entering any league that has males.
Because she is an annoying woman who is using a sport a as political tool. People don’t want to deal with entitled disrespectful athletes like her when they turn on the TV. Her disrespect of the national anthem is proof.
@@1940restorod 🔥 so she uses sports as a political tool? What's wrong with that? Is it against the law??.. #2) Do you know why people kneel during the national anthem?
Even when we just compare world cup bonus, they are getting a good deal. Men world cup has huge viewership and is way more competitive than women's world cup.
Agree. I'm sure the women's world cup comes nowhere close to generating the same kind of revenue as the men's world cup. I'm all for equal pay but that also has to be taken into consideration. If the women's world cup generates more revenue then the men's world cup then the women should be paid more then the men.
"Male" World Cup Final is the most viewed sport event in the world. Female World Cup Final...dunno which teams even played that match last time. And I'm a HUGE Soccer fan...
@@Uriel-Septim. Let me correct myself. I meant female chauvinism and not extreme feminism. Feminism attempts to achieve equality on all grounds. Female chauvinism attempts to become superior to men. If a person calls themselves a "feminist" but doesn't act like one, then it doesn't modify the original term because it's been engraved for so long in history, hence they aren't a feminist. Just dumb people who keep ruining a image of a word that only desires equality. Deeds are capable of changing the definition of something, however if that something has been engraved with a very simple sentence of equality for many years, then no, it won't change meanings.
same. When you have every corporation giving diversity handouts, and when the military industrial complex is headed by women, then you've already been empowered, it's done.
This is insanity. Thank you for clearly explaining the issue. Doublespeak, obfuscation, and denial seem to be the underlying themes. Blows my mind how the players can deny reality so confidently, wish I had that skill lol!
@James Stewart I have never seen a gap in my working life. Jobs have had grades of pay where I have worked and it didn't matter what sex you were as long as you could do they job and that was over 25 years ago. Plenty of women as supervisors and managers where I have worked too. In fact I would say they are treated better and get more chance of promotion these days. They appear to be applying 1950s era conditions (where they were under paid) to modern day, just like BLM do. If you tell a demographic they are a victim, they will try and take full advantage, its human nature. So funny how athletes are now suddenly having "mental health issues". This will probably spill over into the general working population. Western world is becoming weak and pathetic, China must be laughing.
It’s crazy how nowadays this information is so widely available to people at the touch of a couple buttons and they still chose to not do their own research and look into the lawsuits and instead just make up their opinions based on a couple article titles
Oh, this was the hardest pill I had to swallow in my life. People are just too distractable, lazy, and/or stupid to do ANY homework... especially if that research might result in contradicting their morally ritious, yet uninformed, opinions.
This is the big problem with the internet. Confirmation Bias. People search and find “THEIR TRUTH” Not THE TRUTH. It’s happening in medicine too. You search and find the illness to validate your weaknesses.
@@jmfreedome9863 but I can lament not only at others, but at my own distractable nature. There are many things I believe I should study, but don't. For many people though I think our current situation is also due to the fact that people have jobs and families and responsibilities to tend to and don't have the time/energy it takes to research every news article on their own. People have come to trust a certain news provider and then believe everything they say. If people didn't misrepresent and lie about things we potentionally could live that way. If not for sources like this I would have continued believing what my friend told me about the womens/mens soccer pay gap not realising that the issue is more complex than that. That is why I am really grateful to people like Nate here that invest their time and energy to represent the facts.
How is it that this can be broken down to an elementary level by an attorney on TH-cam who practices in NY but this completely flies over the President of the United States head???
yes, they are a damn embarrassment meant to push a lie to gullible idiots who will believe it. They don't even believe the lie, they are acting disingenuous to contribute to the collapse of our society, well, they do it for "glory" and vanity to elevate their celebrity status, but the people using them are doing it to plant a bad, self destructive, FAKE idea into the head of anyone who will believe the lies.
@@manuelmayer9795 These women complaining about equal pay are just like the soccer players who drop to the ground holding their leg to try to get a call acting like they’re writhing in pain then they get up and start running after the call is made.
This what liberalism and democratic politics is. Facts don't matter. All that matters is your feelings. If you feel like a victim then it doesn't matter what your situation is. Even if you're overcompensated, entitled, and just a flat our lier.
megan keeps going on about they are doing the same thing. no they aren't doing the same thing. they are doing something similar but definitely not the same thing. megan plays vs other women. the men's team plays against other men. that is different because the competition is different. it's like comparing college foot ball to the nfl. if megan truly wants to play under the exact same conditions, she should get her whole team together and join the men's league. i doubt they'll even beat a single professional men's team.
Why not play their loss against a young boys team on tv in front of whoever brings it up at any place before those who beg to differ just to prove a point if they are the best or really the best overall that needs to generated more income....if they have their way, then its the entire world too...besides i dont hear the mens team losing to any young team as of yet...have they...
People often confuse "Compensation" with "Salary'. Just look at Steve Jobs: he famously drew a salary of just a $1 per year at Apple. Yet his compensation was worth tens of millions of dollars per year because it included stock options, benefits, and perks. Likewise, public employees often complain that they "get paid less" than those in private companies because their "salaries" are less. However, the public employees often have generous benefits and retirement plans they never count in their "compensation."
Very true. My brother made a similar salary to me when he was working at Goldman Sachs, but my total compensation at the University of Utah blew him out of the water with my benefits package. My health benefits are slightly better, but for retirement GS would match him up to 4% while the university automatically gives me 14.3% regardless of what I choose to contribute. Total compensation is often overlooked
I wish more people knew this. I am a 1099 employee. My check may be more than my W-2 brethren, but with all the Healthcare and PTO they get equates to more than I may get to play with after all my expenses
yes, and there's something wrong with that. Look at all the billionaires popping out of the woodwork who pay < 1% income tax, while the working class pays 25-40% income tax.
Public employees rarely have generous benefits or benefits at all and most public jobs do not offer any kind of retirement whatsoever. Stuff you're talking about offer government employees.
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Lets add one other thing, Mens team will probably never win the world cup, women have won it 4 times already..
@@triptah7536 players don’t get paid based on accomplishments they get paid on money brought in, not rocket science, well for men atleast lol
@@worldisfilledb you definitely did not watch the video , the players get a huge bonus if the win the world cups , which women have done 4 times , and men haven't and won't ever.
Great job my friend don't forget don't let statistics get in the way of a good lie
Ban women's sports.
"When you've spent your entire life entitled, equality will feel like discrimination." -- Thomas Sowell
They’re in the process of “Newspeak”ing equality for equity right now.
“I made a dicision, and now somebody has to pay for it.“
Female privilege.
Thomas Sowell should be taught in schools not critical race theory.
Very true. It would be ironic if Biden went through with his threat to pull US team funding for that would probably mean the women would have to take a pay cut, assuming they would be able to play at all.
If government stepped into this issue in any way I would shut down the team I owned. Close the stadiums and pay to have it tore down. Lay off the teams and give them all the finger.
I wish the court just says "yes, you deserve equal pay. and this is why we're reducing your salaries".
Yeah that’s when they should tell them they either lose ALL their benefits and get paid THE SAME RATE or keep the benefits and shut up.
This! Or at the very least give more pay to the male players. They had the short side of the stick and didn't even complain
Isim that would have been hilarious!!!
Sadly they cannot renegotiate a contracted agreement cause that will also open up the ability for your plumber to go to court and renegotiate the quotes they've given you.
As it stands, if a plumber quotes you $100 for a $200 job and you accept, they are bound to suck up the loss. I'd rather not see a policy change that would allow crappy workers to underbid and then give you a massive bill at the end cause they "renegotiated"
LoL
This happened at Google too. Women complained, they had an internal investigation, and the investigation found that men were paid less
And the BBC. They also found that men were paid less.
Same thing happened over at the BBC.
@@richardg3335 source on this one.
tell me more please
@sensible self-defense , I can't find men getting paid less.
I did find that women don't want to do the high paying jobs.
The fact that they rejected the equal pay option says everything I need to hear.
They were offered equal pay and turned it down.
Additionally they want more benefits than the men. Same money but they want employee benefits. Me personally you should give employee benefits to men, because I know they’re all be some boycott to the women’s league saying taking away necessities.
equal as in dollar for dollar or equal based on revenue?
@@ElBarcoGaming equal payment structure. But the women wanted more guaranteed income rather than bonuses linked to winning. They also wanted benefits like heath insurance.
They were offered an identical payment structure as the men but turned it down.
It was only after they saw how much they COULD HAVE earned, that they started to make a stink.
They don’t tell you this side of the story
They just did that so they'd get benefits that they could demand to keep on top of equal pay. It was an intentional ploy imo, I mean it took just 2 years for them to turn around.
"I think that how much you get paid should have something to do with how much money you bring in.” - Ronda Rousey
Exactly. I have no problem with them getting paid more if they bring in the same revenue.
The same motto as working on commission. Makes perfect sense.
I get paid for saving my company money.
Isnt that how its supposed to be? Or was I living in a cave for too long
No. It should be pure meritocracy of soccer skill. This is how you remove the inequity of fame and gender.
So the women's national team should make just as much profit as middle school male championship teams.
"If it wasn't for those pesky facts, I would get away with my bullsh*t" - Megan Rapinoe, probably.
Anonymous source says she did make that statement.
i believe the actual quote was "And I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling facts"
Women like Rapinoe see facts that prove her and others wrong as violence towards women
So out of all this, does it mean women that women don’t read and irrationally over react?
Facts she's well aware of. I can't imagine the ego it takes to give that long winded speech about how hard done by the women's US team are when she knows full well they aren't being ripped off. Completely callus, opportunistic and greedy a person she must be. Not to mention extremely arrogant. Horrible individual.
Thank God for a judge who is no fool.
if female soccer players get paid the same as men because they win world cups then boys under 15 soccer teams should get paid the same as the national womens team for beating the national womens team.
@@TheBelrick haha that's funny.
@@benlauson555 facts can indeed be funny
@@TheBelrick this is the wrong argument...equal pay is regardless of performance. 🤷🏻♂️ (aka this is the common media underlying message, not my personal perspective)
@@markw5805 sorry but this is professional sports in the real world, if you aren’t good enough or can’t perform you get paid less or booted
As a female this makes me embarrassed, embarrassed because this isnt what the women of the past were fighting for. WE HAVE EQUAL PAY! This is ridiculous, thank you Nate for bringing this to the publics view. To the WNT, GROW UP and act like adults.
there was never even a talk about female responsibilities or accountabilities.
Nowadays women having more rights while at the same time having less responsibilities.
To this day women refuse to even talk about it.
@@flycrack7686 I do hope when you say women you do mean the small percentage of women and not women as a whole.
The WNT is getting a big 'ol helping of karma with their craptastic world cup performance. GoWokeGoBroke. Same for Canada too.
Yeah, paying some one more JUST BECAUSE they are women.. should be seen as insulting, because it takes away real value and replaces it with pity..
say the same of democrats and biden that are pushing this false narrative to enforce discrimination towards men.
Why are they allowed to flat out lie? I’m proud of that judge. Thank you for the clear explanation.
because Biden is a Gullible enabler
you could tell him that the report that says UK isn't institutionally racist is a sign of White Superiority and if you were a minority he would believe you without doing the research for himself
You may have a few youtube pundits who are probably called women haters calling the b.s. but other than that maybe a few people from fox news would but it don't fits CNN or MSNBC narratives
Because if it suits the narrative it’s ok.. same way if you break the law it’s ok to run and resist, and if you get hurt or killed it’s not your fault.
Ok if you cause damage to private or public property and there’s an outrage causing issue it’s ok too....
You should send this to Dremond Green. See what he thinks.
Because Biden is an idiot that needs to be reminded to breathe and it suits the social justice "woke" everyone that isn't a white male is a victim narrative.
As the father of a daughter that lives eats and breathes soccer, I took interest and educated myself early in this lawsuit to be able to provide her the facts. This is absolutely the best single source presentation of those facts I have seen. Thank you for ALL of your fact videos its so rare today to see honest presentation of facts as you present. Keep up the great work.
Except for the parts where he lies, like when he says the women get all these special employee benefits and the men don't get any, which is blatantly untrue. In some cases, like where he mentions how the women get $1.50 per ticket sold, he conveniently just never mentions that the men get $1.70 per ticket sold.
@@RachelDavis705 well, women still get paid more in total from their national team duties. Matter of fact, there's no crowd right now due to covid so what you are saying is true, it doesn't matter since both teams won't get no ticket percentage
@@RachelDavis705 you mention "parts where he lies" but bring up one data point: ticket sales. Being such a politicized topic, it is hard to find exact information, so I'm unable to easily find the data. 1) What citation states that the men earn $1.70 per ticket sold? 2) What other data points has Nate mislead his viewers about?
@@mgancarzjr Actually, this video was wrong (even more wrong than I realized), and it threw me off. The women actually earned $1.20 per ticket sale, (not $1.50 like this idiot claimed) and the information this idiot chose to leave out is that the men earned $1.50 per ticket sale. It's easy to google, and both of the CBAs are in the legal documents, so if this TH-camr wasn't a fake lawyer, he would've used both the CBAs to make an honest comparison, which show the ticket prices. Also, 2015 through now, the women have also sold more tickets and attracted bigger crowds than the men. I'm not saying one side is right or wrong in this lawsuit, but to portray this as the woman being unreasonable requires straight-up lying or ignorance of the facts.
@@RachelDavis705 repeating the term "idiot" doesn't bolster your claim. It makes you look unreasonable. I've asked for a citation about per-ticket income, but you've yet to provide one. I did find an article which referenced some numbers, but it also had bonuses to ticket sales for certain benchmarks. On the second point, you've yet to provide any other discrepancies. Is the sole discrepancy the ticket revenue, or are there other ignored bonuses/benefits that the men receive?
I think the US men's team needs to file a lawsuit citing this court case as evidence they are being discriminated against
Honestly yeah if I was the men's team I would be asking to get paid as much as the women's team lmao. The women get paid more like wtf. The only privilege that they have over the women's team is the clubs, but that's not the soccer association's job nor fault.
Why the men's team haven't won jack!...the women's team deserves to be paid more but if indeed they are being paid more this lawsuit is completely ridiculous!
@@aduad The women's team lost to FC Dallas' U15 squad lmao. Literally 14 year old boys beat our WNT so wtf are you talking about they deserve to be paid more? They win because literally no other country in the world had an actual professional womens soccer team. And now that countries like England, Germany, and France are actually building real teams to compete, they're beating the US about half the time they play each other. They'll surpass us in a couple years just like in mens soccer.
@@aduad the women's team argues that they should be paid as much as the men and that its discrimination against them if they are not. Using their own logic and the findings of the court its the men who are being discriminated against.
@@tekschannel5128 Germany actually had a solid squad for a while. They’ve won 2 World Cups
I am stunned at how inept US Soccer is at explaining this to the press/public. Every time the WNT say they are being paid less, the counter statement should clearly say they are being paid more and list all the benefits that WNT get. They might have won the case, but they clearly are losing in the court of public opinion.
It's not that they are bad at explaining it, it's that their explanations are published through press conferences which are only delivered in sound bites that are selected to paint the picture that fits a narrative.
Can't be too surprised at their incompetence anymore. They just rehired Beerholder after all.
Also, the media always puts a spin on what’s being said
Can’t be inept at counter arguing when your agreeing with.
"We want equal pay to men..."
"Why we getting a paycut now???"
feminism is just female narcissism. constant entitled victimhood virtue signaling
@@mikelisteral7863 No need for the copy pasta mate
They really should’ve docked their pay then.
Would still be mens fault because "their payment system sucks"
@A H Nope, he's just copied and pasted it in almost every comment
So they were outraged that they were paid according to the contract that they agreed to… wow…
Feminists are outraged they have to get up in the morning. Government should send someone to pick them up.
Leave it to women
Yes they signed a contract ,??
Moreover, who in the world watches women's soccer?
Maybe the immediate family members of the footballers?
Oh they didn't just agree to it. They demanded that contract. The original contract was the same as the men's lmao
“First things first, the women’s team was offered the same deal as the men’s team… but they rejected it.” Ummm, end of case right there.
Does an argument with a woman ever end there?
@@aphilipdent NEVER!!!!
Exactly. Women don't want equality plain and simple.
Not end of case there
If they got offered the same deal, turned it down for commonly NOT known benefits and then demand the same paychecks as well... I get this feeling they planned this from the beginning, in order to have all the same income and hopefully keep the extra benefits
This is so ridiculous
Precisely
How some people can be so dishonest and still show their face in public is beyond me.
They have no guilt, and believe they're entitled to the world.
I don't think its dishonesty. I think it is a lack of critical thinking which is directly linked to the destruction of the education system wrought by political parties who recognize that a stupid population is easy to manipulate. It takes a working brain to be able to look at the big picture like considering benefits (both real and intangible) plus salary when evaluating compensation. When your education system is afraid to teach evolution, be honest about sexuality, religion and race relations for example, you have an education system that fails everyone. When your education system destroys free thought and critical thinking your people forget how to question the validity of what they are presented. What the politicians don't realize is that they did indeed make the population easy to manipulate, not just by the political parties, but easy to manipulate by any special interest group that has an axe to grind. It was Lincoln who said "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." but you can skew that in either direction if you make your population less or more educated. These athletes were given a soundbite and took it as truth from the school of tick-tock and Instagram.
they had the same offer and REJECTED IT?!?!
that should have ended the discussion right there.
I think females did a better choice !! By choosing that service actually...men just gets money at the end of the day... But when u have insurances like that ..that makes you .. and your family life much better ...
@@bonjovi1354 they cannot even beat a u 15 school team.. and asking for more pay🤣
@@finding_aether well that's for sure .. and also there are tons of male athletes they don't even get a chance ...in every sector ..even hollywood
@@bonjovi1354 some male atheletes are claiming to be female and are winning everyone in their competitioms.
Thank you liberals🤣🤣🤣
@@finding_aether who told u I am a liberal ... People call me islamaphob ..and also racist ..that I use word like negro to tell them they r negro
The men's worldcup revenue is 5.36b while the women's cup yields roughly 131m. The women earned far more in relation to the profits they generate and still they want more.
Is it the total revenue or the revenue that goes into the pocket of us football?
So the men get paid more for game time but women get paid more in general?
But the men didn't didn't make it to the world cup so what claim so the men's team have to the world cup revenue 😂
@@georgebolton1798 Men's football yields more money than women's football. World cup or not, men's football draws more viewers which is the main factor for it's revenue. Besides the US women effectively earned more than the US men, not taking the overall yield in equation.
@@georgebolton1798 I think his argument is that there is a larger audience for men’s soccer which means the men’s team could’ve brought in much more revenue compared to the women’s team. Therefore they would deserve a higher payout compared to the women’s team.
It's so funny to hear US media talk about the US men's soccer team's bonus for winning the World Cup as if that's a thing. LOL.
You don't expect media to actually know wtf they're talking about now, do ya? ; )
Right lets pay the men $100 per game and give them 500 million each if they win the world cup lol.
They deserve that much money if they win it since it will most likely never happen
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I don't think I'll ever see the men win the cup in my lifetime.
We need to fight for our men to be paid equally.. Victim mentality and entitlement explained to perfection. Well done..
You had me at "the women were offered the men's deal and turned it down"
Hahaha so true! In my Opinion you are not allowed to complain about the mess you build your self. They are very good at the moment. So they win and with the mens contract they would have earned more. But they wanted the safer option and now have not the money they could have got, but stil a very lot. No way that‘s discrimination in my opinion
@@Lebix-dg7dp they also still get paid more than the men since they are viewed more
Yup, after that the case was stillborn.
That was over for me when i heard
"They were offered the same deal as the men and rejected"
Yeah and I'm so disappointed in the us president, For being a dumb clown and saying stuff like equal pay or else go to someplace else for world cup funding. Like which competition is more valuable at moment. The heck is that guy thinking. probably did that to win his elections. you know pushing the equal pay card to gain more votes. What a dumbass fool.
@@mohammedabdulgafoor2836 Joe panders to his voters. That's why. He has 0 credibility. 47 years as a career politician.
@@mohammedabdulgafoor2836 Joe isn't thinking at all lmao.
He probably isn't capable since his brain is melting every day
I was uneducated and considered this argument over at "It's based on ticket sales. The men's team generates more income, and they are paid accordingly. Thank you for opening my eyes. This is so much worse than I had imagined.
Same!! Much worse than I imagined too, but very entertaining, I just subbed cos of his lawsuit against Christopher Bouzy and man there's some good stuff on there!!! Just factual stuff.
Ditto! The truth was clearly laid out in this video. Great job Nate!
I like how they talk about how men would get more money for winning the World Cup when the US Men haven’t won a World Cup but US women have won 4. So basically they got that 400k while the men got none.
@@cameronagha1449 Also, lets not forget, when the world got shut down for two years, they got full pay. Men got nothing.
@Danny Buck you ignore the fact that the bonus for winning the world cup is directly related to the prize the US soccer federation gets from FIFA in case of winning, and those numbers are 42 million for man WC, and 4 million for women WC.
the difference in the amount of money they move from all sources, call it TV, tickets, sponsors.... is abysmal, it makes all other aspects of this matter irrelevant, US Women national team should be ashamed.
I love how you just lay out the facts so clearly. You’re awesome!
The should have said: "Fine. Equal pay it is."
And lowered their pay.
That certainly would have been the honorable thing to do, but of course we're talking about entitled people who don't actually care as much about equality as they claim to 😅
If it was me I would swap the 2 deals.
Or raised the men's pay to match.
Commodore!
you clearly didnt watch the vid. if they got the men's terms they would have MUCH more than the men got. because you get MUCH more if you WIN! Duh.
The moment you realize a humble TH-camr makes more sense than main stream media and news outlets.
That’s due to that main stream media try for entertainment and shock value, not as much for facts
don't forget to mention the President. His comments don't make sense. Feminism is pure cherry picking on the cost of men
And the president of te United States
@@StarvingMorlock At the moment most things make more sense than what the President says.
It’s been that way for a long time. “News” media doesn’t need to be truthful or factual anymore, they’re just entertainment and opinion pieces. Been that way for nearly 2 decades
Now the men’s team should issue a gender equal pay appeal, that’d be funny
lmao
That’s what I was about to say.
Can't imagine how funny that would be, since the female team lost to a teenager team. If the female team lost, should they even be paid?
ok so wether you agree or not with wage gap, lets look at the facts and how this TH-cam is either or purpose ignoring all the information or presenting it in bad faith.
Lets look at specific the details bright up here. Men had employee benefits in addition to salary. When woman was offered mens deal they where not offered the same deal, they where offered pay, but not the employee benefits that the men got included. So what Nate here is saying is that Option A for woman is the same as A+B for men bc reasons that fit his narrative. If you are going to argue that the woman did get same deal you also need to explain that they dd not get the employee benefits the men did. Just bc it comes from a different agreement does not mean you can disregard it for the men but count it as salary for the woman.
If you look up the calculations the judge made as well if you look int the case you do fins that his calculations are somewhat wrong. He compared win salary for woman with lose salary for men in short terms. So for woman to have equal salary as the judge pointed out they need to win most of the cases while the men can lose same amount.
It does nt matter wether you agree with gender gap or nt I really hate those populists that play on emotions over facts and presenting it in full, just to get more views or fit a false narrative, like Nate here did just now. This is also reason why you have so much untrustworthy media in US as well as the divisive culture war going on
@@kris3706 can you present evidence of this
Wow! Thanks for laying out the details. It certainly makes the picture a lot clearer.
We need to fight for our men to be paid equally.
I mean those bitches could win a world cup or two like the women.
Men are earning less and have less wealth than women in the US today.
underrated comment
This will age well
@@hannachumakova1086 I hope you are right.
Imagine performing to an audience that's 90% smaller, or worse, and then arguing that you should be paid as if you performed to a 100% audience. Absolute madness.
I found it unbalay as he only made the case againsy
How was it unbalanced? He read directly from court documents and played sound bites from and showed official pay structure. If it felt unbalanced, it's because the situation is unbalanced...in favor, surprisingly by just how much, of the women.
@@justalittlebitmo Right, and they have no basis to even argue about fairness of pay because they are in the business of Sport Entertainment.
The key work being entertainment - the size of the audience is what is supposed to dictate pay in entertainment, there's no such thing as "doing the same job" otherwise lower league footballers would be paid the same as D1 players, or music artists would be paid the same, actors etc. Women are paid less because the audience is much much smaller. Look at the WNBA and NBA, the NBA massively subsidises the WNBA and they still are unprofitable, yet their women want more money and have the nerve to even ask for as much as the men make despite not being able to draw enough of an audience to justify the pay they are already getting! It's insanity and ironically sexist.
Thank you finally just tell them they are had
@@ShutThePuck Couldn't agree more! I think realistically what they should be advocating for is to attract as much audience to buy tickets, merch and otherwise support their proffesional clubs, which will additionally generate more lucrative sponsorship deals, bigger TV broadcasting deals etc. etc., ultimately resulting in better wages and benefits for the players. This can be I think mostly achieved in sports like handball, tennis, volleyball, track & field, swimming and some winter sports, however for soccer / football it is quite hard, women's games being in general much less spectacular compared to men's games for the average spectator.
So a group of women wanted all the advantages of the men but none of the disadvantages? Wow, I’m so shocked.
Yeah - *never* saw THAT coming ...😎
Let them play against each other..the men vs the women...lets see how many bone crushing, chilling, hard crunching tackles and skills not to forget, will come onto the pitch to show just whos able to survive or even win a game...there should be a best of 2 games to decide overall...that would be fair to say the least in soccer...
@@davidarchangels6500 then they will hire a bunch of men to claim they are trans athletes to play against the men's team. Joe Biden's contribution to women's sports. Yet purple hair lady had no problem accepting a WH invitation from THAT guy.
@@davidarchangels6500 Mate, it is soccer, there are no crushing tackles.
That said, I am a rugby player, and if you want to put me on a women's team, the results would be friggin' ugly. I could easily cripple everyone on the other team, if I honestly tried.
Edit: Thinking about it, soccer might be the most egalitarian sport, given that it doesn't require that much athleticism, (how much upper body strength is required?) but still the gender gap is completely insurmountable.
@@davidarchangels6500 Isn't this the womens team that lost badly to a team of 14yr school boys, good luck facing the mens team.
Great video. Glad I stumbled upon it
They keep using the word "equal," but I don't think they actually know what the definition is.
They conflate the word Equal for Equity. They are meaning Equity, Equity means the same identical outcome despite how it is achieved. So the person that sits on their ass not doing any of the work will have *Equity* reward them to the same rate of pay and benefits for the person that works long and hard and puts in overtime and pays taxes etc.
So anytime they SAY *Equity*, know they are trying to conjure up the concept of *Equality* while really meaning equity. When they say *Equality* but say they need the same outcome or implement "structural reform", they are going for *Equity* not Equality.
Inconceivable!
@@mattstorey7256 well even if they want equity, they'll end up with less than what they get. Spoiled brats that got beaten by a boys highschool soccer team.
@@robby1816 You beat me to this comment and now I'm sad! And I'm not left handed either!
@@FrogOf4Chan You seem like a decent fellow.
I like how the media is pretending that the US men's team actually has a shot at winning the world cup
The truth is that if our best athletes played soccer and not football or basketball we would win the world cup. Check the gold medals. Soccer is developing more and more in the US while other countries have focused on it for over 100 years.
Well they DO in theory. But I am not sure if the propability of this happening is even above 1%... I'd say (without wanting to be mean to those players) that it is more likely that hell freezes over.
I mean imagine a guy like LeBron (not as tall maybe) playing soccer all his life with the same work ethic dude would be a monster, we have the athletic talent just not in soccer
@@ramnsesallen4375 not yet. I think we're getting better tho.
@@ramnsesallen4375 Lebron might be to bulky I’m thinking more of like the tall fast wide receivers then we would win it every four years
Victim mentality and entitlement explained to perfection. Well done.
There's another factor. The US men's soccer team is horrible. They should pay us to watch. Of course it wouldn't cost them anything because they are so terrible they didn't even qualify for the Olympics.
@@chrisaustin9949 they’re just doing what they like you shouldn’t judge them for that
@@AxolPiezz no he’s got a point. It’s like how the WNBA isn’t as good as the NBA and are paid less and they play the victim card when seriously it’s because it’s less memorable and sometimes borderline unwatchable
@@CameronKujo I’m a female and I agree. I can’t watch the wnba and sometimes forget it’s a thing
@@chrisaustin9949 I’m not really into soccer, but wouldn’t another factor be viewership? Which teams ranks in the most revenue, what do people prefer watching? I’m not into soccer so I don’t really know which team ranks in more revenue for the event, but I would assume men’s soccer does.
I'm surprised I'm just finding your channel now. Very good analysis, and you're a great communicator. I'm glad to now be part of the Nate The Lawyer sub squad.
“The best damn soccer team in the world…” loses to a academy fc Dallas squad
Yh 5-2 lol and they were U15s so by there logic Pay them boys the same as the men 😂😂
Can't believe you only have 92 thumbs up! The Australian women's team was also beaten by an under 15s side. That was 7-0. 🤣
Imagine if that academy was the man utd academy or la masia how much would the score line be
And lost to the Swedish women's team 3-0 :DDD
@@com1k 20-0
Women’s soccer team: We want equality
Soccer Federation: Sure, although you will have to give up your benefits.
Women’s soccer team: I meant we want equity.
"I mean, we want equality when it benefits us" - Women's soccer team true meaning.
They are so strong and independent, they don't need a man. Trust me, they will be fine, even when we take away their benefits
@@hanglong8056 that’s funny
Nah, usa male soccer team isnt relevant in the world. It will never win a world cup, womans team got 4. By the logic they should recieve much more than men
@@paredescp yet they still believe that they are being treated less than. Their new attitude cost them medals, they chose politics over the game and continue to do so. As soon as the male soccer team wins a medal and keeps out of politics the woman’s soccer team will be forgotten.
@@paredescp that's one side of the story but on the other hand the viewership of men soccer in general is way higher than women's i will give a example not about genders this year Argentina men national team won the copa America cup but got a winning prize less than turkey which ranked last Euro cup why? Because of the viewership and another example why people argue that Cristiano Ronaldo's numbers with his national team (Portugal) is better the Messi's numbers with his national team (Argentina) (although they have similar number) because winning Euro cup is harder than winning copa america cup in summary women's cups has low viewership and is easier to achieve. The counter argument for that they are top of their league the should get paid as top. That's is the example of Argentina getting paid less than turkey. Not to hate on women if u watched the skills that women provide it's so bad and we all remember that women national soccer team has lost to a 17 years old boys team which says alot. Hope u get my point ♥️♥️
Since the court showed the women got paid more than the men, the men should sue for equal pay.
The men can't win the world cup if their lives depended on it. The women do win and taking away the amount listed for a world cup win for all the players, the women make less.
@@phantomliger89 women’s league it’s barely a league 😂
@@phantomliger89 but the women team doesn't generates the same amount of money, which is the real business
I think the judge should have done the cost like they did above and say are u prepared to make less cash women cause that is what ur asking for.
@@phantomliger89 idk what video you watched to make you come to that conclusion, i suggest you rewatch the video and stop living a lie
I am very happy to have discovered your channel. You cover very interesting topics. You have tremendous common sense. Thank you
"They want all the benefits without any of the drawbacks."
Modern feminism (and identity politics as a whole) in a nutshell.
Aye
Exactly
There's no difference between the different waves of feminism. Feminists are the gender KKK.
@@bbwblk there are differences. feminism of the end 19-begining 20 century was really about equal rights.
@@dmitrizaslavski8480not this nonsense again.
You know what's crazy. You can present this to certain people and they will say it's false just because they don't like what is said and refuse to listen.
Like Rapinoe?
That's not crazy. It's denial.
he's a white supremacist 😛😂😂😂
Kinda like every marriage argument
I pointed out the huge discrepancy in skill between the men and women teams. The women’s team got beat by a high school boys team. The men’s team literally takes on the best soccer players in the world. So to act like they are performing at the same job level is ridiculous. That’s like saying Ronda Rousey was just as good Brock Lesnar. Both were champs but the competition was waaaaay different.
First time I saw anyone ever went into detail about the benefits, weird the news media hasn’t really shown this.
It's almost like the wage gap IS illegal, and has been for decades.... so this is nothing but a myth.
Is it weird? No it’s not the mainstream media constantly lies to push progressive agendas
Because of sleepy joes quote from twitter. They cant have there man looking like a dumb ass.. wait to late...
With all this information already public, it's hard to wrap my head around how this case could have made it as far as it did. Surely, somewhere along the line, the lawyers got together and explained to their clients "This will never work, you're trying to tell people 2+2=3"
This conversation had to happen, and the soccer ladies still said "Yeah, what's the problem?"
The lawyers got paid to forward their arguments, so they're happy the longer it drags out lol. But internally, absolutely they knew this wouldn't stick from the moment they took the case
Explained? The lawyers probably encouraged those idiots in WNT. Yeah. We can win this, while laughing inside, yeah it's a pay day.
@@Nekoeye This is probably true, like paying a contractor by the hour, for a job which mysteriously takes longer and longer than estimated
I was on my way to a WNBA game when I stopped at a gas station for snacks. I left the two tickets on my dash board without thinking too much of it. When I came back out my window was smashed and now there were four tickets on the dash.
Now this is lol!
Bravo
Now that made me LOL for real!
Maybe your passengers had other plans.
You couldn’t even scalp the WNBA tickets to pay for your insurance deductible or the window (out right); depending on which is the lesser.
Imagine being able to try and renege on a contract that you signed, suing when it doesn't work and when that falls through having the president back you up even though your lying. Women in the western world are so oppressed.
I think that deal is called 'marriage." The only contract you negotiate on your way out.
Oppressed by their own choices!
@@billburr5881 Rapinoe would not be able to earn a basic wage if she was playing in the man's game in the UK lowest division, she does not possess the skill nor the physicality, and yet because she is a woman, she earn at least four time as much then those man. Player in the English woman's Super League teams know that until they can attract the same spectators, and interest as man they cannot expect to earn the same. The difference in the amount of money generated in the man's world cup is astronomic when compared with the money generated in the woman's world cup tournament. I am actually a fan of the woman English super league, and when televised watch all woman matches, but you would have to pay me to watch, arrogant, talentless, big headed, loud mouth, Rapinoe. WTF Biden knows about soccer contracts for him to take sides?
@@marcellogenesi6390 No. I think she could earn a basic income. They would need someone to clean the changing rooms.
@@marcellogenesi6390 I'm sure them attracting fans, while acting like spoiled children, is extremely likely. Their pay should go way down.
"I want all of the upside, but none of the downside"
“I want upside without having to pay for downside protection” aka a free option
Ah. Quoting socialists
How women view the world, in general - I want what benefits me in the moment and I don't want any of the costs, downsides, duties, responsibilities, ect that are commensurate with those benefits, I want the benefits but I want to defer the costs to others (usually men).
@@TheWeirdguy6 na, just summarising a poorly thought through argument. There’s no ideology here.
“Just Like a Woman!!”
In England the uk men’s team donate there wages to charity when they play for their country
This video doesnt even mention that the mans world cup makes several times the money of the womens world cup. Percentage wise, the women get paid way more for what they actually generate
Yea this what I find insane ! I dont get how anyone can take their claim seriously ! I mean simple math is not hard to understand! ppl are crazy !
Quite easy to understand: Men's 2018 WC brought in 4+ BILLIONS, the Women's 2019 WC brought in 400M.
You're a 100% right. In percentage, women are paid almost 35% more than men.
Hm was the us in the last world cup? I really enjoyed to watch the women's world cup last time, especially this US team and they gonna get bigger.
@@EugeneBuvard yes, but the men didn't get paid for the 2018 world cup beause they weren't in it. But if they had been they would have brought in a lot more money, hence the improved bonus structure.
And that most national teams donate their money earned from international games to charity
Fantastic overview. There's a few even deeper layers to this that sometimes is hard for the casual viewer not familiar with international soccer to understand. In the men's game, their day job is with their clubs (if they're national team players, it usually means they are elite players and bring big paychecks from their clubs). Getting called up for the national team is the utmost honor and goal for a player, but there's vicious competition for each spot and you might get a few calls in and then never again. For the USWNT, their day job IS the national team. They pay salary, benefits and bonuses, and because of that they are basically guaranteed the call up for a whole year. The US womens league is subsidized by the federation, and the US federation puts on multiple tournaments a year just for the womens NT to get playing time. They invite a couple other teams as punching bags so Carli Lloyd can score 30 goals per round. This doesnt happen for the men. They follow the FIFA calendar for international breaks, when their clubs can release them to play for their national teams. The clubs in the womens US league are obligated to release the national team players every other month, while the league is still going. These players are also "designated players" in their clubs, which means the league doesn't have a cap on their club salary. In the world stage, the USWNT are the most priviledged female sports team IN THE WORLD. There were teams in last WC who's entire roster were amateour players who have other day jobs and are not even paid to play soccer professionally. This is why they are so dominant. They are the epitome of the rich girls club who wins everything, and there's nothing remarkable about that.
So glad someone pointed this out because I was just about to. This should be the most upvoted comment on the video. There’s even a few other deeper layers like how the federation incentivizes the women to stay in the NWSL (rather than go abroad) with guaranteed $60K+. Big name players in the NWSL keeps butts in seats so the federation is also, in a roundabout way, supporting the growth of the women’s game in America under this current pay structure.
So is it a case of “the more you get, the more you want?
You get it 👊🏼
And that more asses are in the seats when it comes to men’s soccer so they are paid more. Where are all the empowered women supporting women’s soccer?
MIC DROP 🎤
Dude, you randomly showed up in my feed and I'm hooked.
Us moment
Same
All hail the god of you tube😂
That Rapinoe is a professional gaslight. . . That's it
This is a great example of why you can’t just listen to random statistics you hear on the news, even if it validates your beliefs
Now apply that logic to, say, a virus pandemic and your perception becomes a little closer to reality.
@@justwondering1967.
Name says it all.
Especially american news ...... Just to be precise ... About trump🤣😜😃
Pathetic how Biden in 2021 still talks about a gender pay gap, while every person who spends 5 mins investigating knows, that it is a lie.
@@nocturnaljoe9543 VERY few investigate. They just hear a talking point and run screaming.
Breaking news: mainstream media manipulated the truth to spin a narrative.
In other news: water, wet.
Your narrative about water doesn't hold up.
When water touches something, that thing becomes wet.
When water touches water...it's just water.
@@yt.personal.identification attention water has released a statement IT wants to be addressed as IT and it is not wet it is fluid.
@@GalironRunner These claims of wetness clearly don't hold water.
Hey, we already had Watergate!
@@yt.personal.identification 🤦♂️
*Fact checkers have entered the chat*
They don't care about the truth, they care about the narrative.
Truth is irrelevant, only power.
If the good and the true aren't the same thing, that's a natural (though noetically self-destructive) conclusion.
@@777Looper You can not have 'good' without 'true'.
If we live in a rational universe (and it appears we do, rational being one which is governed by cause and effect, laws which are consistent and universal) then the only way to achieve outcomes which are fit to purpose is to base them in observable, rational reality.
Attempting to achieve outcomes which are not based in rational, observable, reality, can only result in putting in place programs, laws, beliefs, and systems which exist in opposition to reality. These systems will fail, in every instance, to account for and correct what is real. The result of the failure of the system to achieve its stated goals will lead to more suffering which will need further 'corrected' which will lead to even further deviation from reality and worse outcomes.
The only way in which good outcomes can be achieved is by basing the systems in rational, observable reality, based in truth.
I think it's disgusting that female players knowing that their benefits and pay is fair but they just want more.
Great analysis, based on facts not in emotions. Keep doing this friend, it is needed more than ever
They either don't understand their pay structure or they're just plain greedy. Great breakdown Nate!
I'd say both?
I'm guessing its the latter...but the stupidity come in when the don't understand that sooner or later people will see thru th BS (Thanks to peeps like Nate et al)
Yes
Both, but also... they’re entitled. Western women are quite pampered these days. Their voices ring loud on the internet, and the things they want are often handed to them.
I think they just grifting liars personally led by a man hating, pink haired, self aggrandizing bully who was caught cold heartedly dismissing a little girl who just wanted her to sign her soccer ball. One of the most callous displays of ego I've ever seen. Not to mention her teammates surrounding her did nothing to call her on her prim a donna behavior. None of them could be bothered by a little 8 year old girl who just wanted to meet her hero. So much for empowering girls. Personally, in that act alone, I dont think they deserve to have any of their problems see the light of day. Their lying, spoiled, divas who think they're better than you and me. Soccer isnt life, but being a good person is, on that point they're woefully short of the goal.
The absolute AUDACITY they have to be offered the same deal, deny it, and then sue for wage discrimination.
They were offered the same pay structure. But the amount they were offered was very different. The quote says they were offered a "pay to play proposal similar to." People are conflating this to mean the Women were offered the same amount of money. That is simply untrue, and people (like this guy) who keep intentionally conflating these two things are liars trying to trick you.
I can certainly feel the AUDACITY on the women's soccer team
@@RichardManion because of their agreement the players were guaranteed roster spots and that kept many hopefuls on the outside when in Men’s Soccer you are never guaranteed a call up unless you are Messi, Ronaldo or Neymar! And they play on different National Teams.
@@RichardManion even if it were lower, it says similar. But then they fought for a different payment plan, and got it, giving them a better situation and them making more guaranteed money. They are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
@@RichardManion keep denying the reality that they were payed more if it makes you feel better or whatever
I play in a rock'n roll band and I demand I get the same payment as Elvis! I'm doing the same job!
Well said
If Elvis was as bad as you then he would get the same money you are paid now.
Would that not be the socialist dream? Equal misery and poverty!
@@olzyolzmobile whereas in the capitalist dream the misery and poverty continues to be unequal?
Well, as socialism (in the term's pregnant meaning) kills the incentives to do anything and chokes the freedom of expression and thought, the only thing that is "distributed" in the long run is opression, misery and poverty.
I am subscribing just because your hair style ROCKS
I feel like the people disliking this video just don’t like factual information. Great video that focus on facts and evidence. Nice job
The video has 3,2 million views and 2,6 k dislikes i think they misclicked
Video is great, but I would understand people disliking it to express frustration at the fact that, though they're not being discriminated in terms of pay, the Women's national team is on unequal footing by needing those benefits to begin with.
Their clubs don't provide them.
Just Femenazis that don't care about anything but the fact it's men vs women
Facts don't matter... My feelings were hurt!
I agree
Textbook Modern Feminism, they were offered the exact same as the men and said it wasn’t good enough. Then when given exactly what they asked for they demanded more.
Hold on. Let us not labeled this as feminism. This is simply a counter party who negotiated a bad deal, who is now trying to exit the agreement and force a renegotiation by attempting to use a legal hook to get the courts to terminate the old deal.
This happens in business all the time.
its not feminism or the way business goes. it is a shakedown. and when they get the first demand, that is the entree to the next ask and the next. all these leftist minority groups act the same.
remember the 90s? gays pushed for civil union and benefits as if that were the goal. no, it was only about opening the door a crack then pushing for their real agenda.
In this case the women amd Biden are blatantly manipulating us and hiding the facts. then when they realized they outsmarted themselves wanted a re-do. comical
the way they lie and manipulate is kind of like the fabricated tweets and selectively edited video to manipulate opinion and implicate Trump in inciting the mostly peaceful protest at the Capitol in January. That effoft ended with whimper and a quick acquittal
@@MM-rr1kp feminism is a shakedown.
@@J_Madison agree, one of the many subset groups that do this. race, gay-trans are others. they all flow up into the left's machine
@@J_Madison Inaccurate... or rather imprecise. Feminism (or feminist ideal) is but a tool for this particular shakedown.
Anyway, it's been thwarted and justice prevailed this time... As we say ourselves: take the win for once, there's gonna be plenty of horrible times ahead.
This is what happens in an emotional, equity based court. The motto will be "Guilty until she is proven happy."
"Victim until proven happy" and "everyone else is a nazi if they disagree" seem to be the more modern terms 🤣🤣
Women are never happy.
And they are never happy
lol proven happy? oooh when will she ever be? hahaha good luck fulfilling that! Something else always comes up mate :D
Thank you for the much needed education , the public NEED to know about this .👍👍👍
This was exactly what I’ve been looking for. You cannot imagine the amount of conservative/liberal media posts I had to go through just to find a video that explained what was actually happening. Thanks
I agree
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid kid. Once you get older and your brain is completely formed, you will start to be able to separate the wheat of the truth from the chaff of the bullshit. Good luck with the socialism you are being conned into voting for.
@@GordonWaiteJr The hell are you talking about?
@@jdsr4c he saw conservative, didnt see liberal, and jumped on defense
No matter ones political affiliation, it is so annoying to find a video hoping it will tell you facts only to just shove some other stuff in your face. I'm a conservative, and many of the "conservative" videos on here try shoving some kind of personal opinion in my face I just don't want to hear because usually it's crazy lol
"The very best soccer team in the world" That lost to an under 15 boys team.
And much more recently...to Canadians
@@REMOV28 ouch lmao
@@REMOV28 what’s wrong with Canadians bro
@@lennoxsommerville7451 nothings wrong with Canada but Americans feel like they're sooo much more superior than Canadians that the loss is gotta hurt loool
@@REMOV28 you got a point lol
Phrase of the day: "Ignoring Reality"
Ooooooooowweeeee ‼️ 🎯
Phrase of the decade and Libtards moto.
Phrase of the times!
And now HBO has a special on this farce?
@derp derpin your funny democrats ignore men and women are biologically different spend more than have let more people die because there's a few bad cops and more recent give 85 billion dollars to terrorists and let Americans and afghans be left in place where if you agree with a religion you be beat and murdered so no more soldiers will die even none have for a year and a half until now because the taliban will let Afghanistan be a hot spot for terrorists
At 6:57 you say they get ticket revenue of $150 per ticket, but the graphic shows the correct $1.50/ ticket. Might wanna edit that part.
Remember kids, if women get paid less, why do employeers even consider hiring men?
I'd say it's because employers are willing to pay more so the work actually gets done, but if we're being honest employers are never willing to pay more.
only thing I can think of is because they know that the women they most likely will go on maternity leave at some point?
If men and women had the same level of productivity throughout their career, in any industry, yet they can pay women less, only women would be hired. Why pay men more to get the same level of productivity?
I work in a heavy construction factory. there are some jobs there that women are not allowed to do simply because their bodies are weaker. then, there are jobs that the women simply will not do--just yesterday I had a woman tell me she had to wait for a guy to come and tighten these nuts on an axle cuz she can't. I seem to remember that just a few months ago we had this little tiny guy do that job, he simply added an extension to the torque wrench making it possible for him to get the pressure needed. she could have done the same, she just didn't want to...
The wage gap isn't that women get paid less for the same job, it's that women don't have the same opportunities as men. This soccer fiasco is distracting from the real problems women face in trying to get the same pay as men. Problems like men being given bigger and better projects, men being given more opportunities and chances to rise to the top of companies, men preferring to work with other men than risk working on equal ground with a woman or lord forbid working under a woman. It's not about the paychecks they get, it's about the paychecks they're not offered.
The WNT is not being discriminated against. They're just being greedy.
They never mention that there is zero chance of the men's team ever winning the World Cup. They might as well tell them they get a billion dollar bonus if they win.
Two of the best players in history, Messi and Ronaldo, haven't even managed to win it with their national teams.
It is probably worth noting that they have so much success given the deal they got. Perhaps the men's team should look into getting the women's deal. Lol.
@@bigdikbubls how is this an argument against his point? You need a good team to win, one single player cant win. Look at sweden they even kicked out the best player they ever had and played better afterwards..
@@Kleinstrateratte Argentina and Portugal have had very good teams built around them so what's your point?
@@Kleinstrateratte I think that was intended to back up his statement
Great channel, Nate!
In other words: As usual, people only look at a bigger number, rather than the circumstances that caused said number.
yup. it's the only reason the "pay gap" exists.
@@theoriginalKland indeed. Every time I try to bring up that the pay gap isn't a real thing, everyone around me gets mad and immediately Shops listening. Frustrating, really. I mean, it's real in some countries, but some countries also still are able to legally beat your wives and kids, so that's that. In no first World country is a wage gap present
I’m confused how they were offered the same contract and still complained? Like what
@@slaycooldog because today it's all about blaming other people for your own choices.
@@KryptoKn8 u could argue that it does exist if we take the reasons as to why the number is bigger as the sistemic consequences of a patriarchal culture
Sad when the President and a soccer player don't even understand the court's ruling.
I wonder what gobbledegook Joe Biden would have to say if he saw this video
Sleepy Joe doesn't understand how to open a carton of milk never mind a court ruling.
The President barely understands Sesame Street.
It's almost like they blatantly ignored what the Judge said and clarified with all the prove 🙄
That is where they trick you.. they pretend not to understand , so they ignore the truth and choose to prey on people's feelings , emotions and outrage... its the whole 'How dare you' nonsense all over again.
Imagine 3 people in a meeting having a conversation that they all know is bullsh*t but they’re all talking to each other like they’re onto something. That’s literally what this soccer player and the president + Vice President were doing.
When the cameras are on, there are a lot more than three people in the room.
This has been the case for 50 years, we literally were made to believe it was a big deal when a 29 year old Billie Jean King beat a 55 year old Bobby Riggs. Then we get hammered with movies where a 115 lb women beats up 225 lb men.
That's just what most conversations are like.
@@markrutkowski7094 so true
I don’t think they know it’s bs, mate.
I imagine that they truly believe it because they want to believe it.
Power, vengeance and a dash of hatred is all the recipe needs.
It's truly sad to see how silly, greedy and petty
This reminds me of a woman I worked with in the Air Force who constantly complained she was discriminated against and paid less than the men around her. The military pays entirely on rank and time in service, there's no consideration for gender or age, everyone in the same ranks and years in service gets paid the same. The men around her she complained about were higher rank with more years of service.
Just curious. Was she ever allowed to rise up in ranks?
Wooks gonna wook my friend
@@johnnyfung4813 Irrelevant. Not every soldier can rise in ranks. Mathematically impossible. There will always be more people at lower ranks than higher ranks. This is true in every job, in every profession. All that matters is pay compared to people at similar levels of experience and position. I don't know the military firsthand, but I would presume that even a typical soldier with 15 years of experience gets paid more than the same rank soldier with 2 years experience.
@@danm5911 apparently, there is a base pay per rank which you can look up. Any increases from there depends on what job you are doing, how long you've been there, how successful you've been, etc. in a meritocratic fashion
@@greywind243 As I suspected. Completely fair and impartial.
Nope, the women’s soccer team is definitely not being discriminated against. Thank you Nate for the thoroughness of your video in regards to this topic, in a time when every news outlets’ goal is to create outrage you have done a better job than the journalists out there.
Love from Vegas ✌🏼
and its not even about club football
in which men get paid more because well its way more popular than women's football
if you ask a average football fan to name 5 players from both the mens and the womens team the chances are he will be able to name the men quicker and would probably have to look up the womens team.
In a world where nobody checks anything, these videos are like a miracle.
Did you check the legitimacy of the video's claims?
Lol
@@breandanm3298 I'm inclined to belive there is some truth to his argument. But I'm not gonna check because American football players such men and women.
@@inanis9801 that really cleared it up [insert sarcastic eye roll]
The White House should have checked prior to having that troll to the capital. What a loser! Biden that is and the purple haired thing.
Very well articulated. Excellent!
How could you legitimately walk into a court room and say "we are being paid different because we are women" when you have a legally binding CBA that *YOU* decided on. How do you not get laughed out of the courts?
Good question. These law suits get more ridiculous every day.
They sort of did get laughed out the case was dismissed no trial.
Simple; Hypocrisy. And people who happily lie when they can get some screen time to wail about their identity politics
Because they know if they had gotten the right (activist) judge that they would have won…even though their case had no legal merit. Because our “justice” system has been transformed into a “social justice” system.
It won’t matter how law-abiding you are or that you haven’t broken a single law; if BLM or MeToo puts a target on your back, you’re going to prison. And it won’t matter how corrupt the prosecutors are or how many rules/laws they break to put you there.
The worst part is you have news channels spreading this lie and further making this gender pay gap claim which is false. They don't tell you that women have stuck to service industries, and teaching. When you end up doing the average amount of money each gender makes the men make more not because companies like paying them more, but because they do very different jobs. They don't tell you about how much more hazardous the jobs that men do are, they don't tell you that men work more on average, and they forget to tell you that women take time off to have children and thus will not have the same experience level as the men.
I love how he didn’t give his opinions, just said straight facts.
I love how modernity made that a rare and respectable (as long as you agree) personality trait.
It's actually refreshing to hear someone stating facts and not their opinions
I don't know how he held in his opinions with the blatant manipulative thievery that the USWNT is doing. But good on him. I would have said so many things calling them out, after saying the facts, because they deserve it, because what they're doing is literal legal thievery.
They offered them the men's deal and they REJECTED it! Why are we even having this conversation??
Because BelieveAllWomen and SpeakMyTruth and feelings apparently matter more than facts. Eh, it's just a news story with long legs for most media.
The women should be given the same deal and have them compete against the men on the field, now that's what true equality looks like. If the women's team win more than men, good for them. If they can't win a single game against men teams, well, tough luck, they asked for equality and now they get it.
I don't get it either. Just like in Sapkowski's (author of "The Witcher" book series) case. He was offered a share in profits of "The Witcher" video games made by CDPR, but he refused and wanted a one-time payment (of his choice). Then after a decade he sued CDPR for an "unjust deal" and wanted more money. His reasoning was: "If CDPR made so much money on games based on my books, it's only natural they should pay me more for the rights to the franchise".
@@Skywalker96214
Best thing.
They can play against males.
There are no rules for woman to not play against men.
There are rules for men to not play in the women's league.
But the so called "best soccer team" loses against 15 year old males. So i don't see them entering any league that has males.
@@Treespiritofficial you are correct. Most "mens leagues" are in fact open leagues.
great vid keep educating bro
Their cause was doomed from the start by having Megan Rapinoe lead this fight.
Why?
@@iAmCynical just cz✨
Because she is an annoying woman who is using a sport a as political tool. People don’t want to deal with entitled disrespectful athletes like her when they turn on the TV. Her disrespect of the national anthem is proof.
What did Megan Rapinoe do that made things so bad?? 🤷 Waiting patiently... (Yawning)
@@1940restorod 🔥 so she uses sports as a political tool? What's wrong with that? Is it against the law??..
#2) Do you know why people kneel during the national anthem?
Female models vs male models, thats an industry that needs equality in pay
Men’s only fans vs women’s only fans 😂
@@milanstocker1756 im with you on that, well start lobbying the governent for a handout
And porn..... 👀
Facts
@@Chuggnuts idk about that one tho? Men would have a future after porn but most women wouldn't.
Even when we just compare world cup bonus, they are getting a good deal. Men world cup has huge viewership and is way more competitive than women's world cup.
Agree. I'm sure the women's world cup comes nowhere close to generating the same kind of revenue as the men's world cup. I'm all for equal pay but that also has to be taken into consideration. If the women's world cup generates more revenue then the men's world cup then the women should be paid more then the men.
@@juanhinojos1456 at least you’ve hit the nail on the head, it’s all about money money money
"Male" World Cup Final is the most viewed sport event in the world.
Female World Cup Final...dunno which teams even played that match last time. And I'm a HUGE Soccer fan...
Exactly
@@wonkygustav4457 that's what she said xD equal pay is about money ryt?
Thank you. Really clearly showed the facts.
Judge should have ruled that women's pay should be lowered to give them the equal pay they're screaming out for
Or the mens be raised
That would be unnecessary and vindictive
@@sting5956 But still 'equal'.
@@sting5956 actually I think it’s super necessary
@@sting5956 so you are against the equal pay movement???
Modern day Feminists vision of equality: Women get the authority of men, the privileges of women, and the accountability of children.
I'm pretty sure that's called extreme (or radical) feminism, not actually feminism.
@@GodProTheMostProGamerEverNot Define feminism please.
"Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie."
That's just women
@@craigpoer All of them ?
@@Uriel-Septim. Let me correct myself. I meant female chauvinism and not extreme feminism.
Feminism attempts to achieve equality on all grounds. Female chauvinism attempts to become superior to men. If a person calls themselves a "feminist" but doesn't act like one, then it doesn't modify the original term because it's been engraved for so long in history, hence they aren't a feminist. Just dumb people who keep ruining a image of a word that only desires equality.
Deeds are capable of changing the definition of something, however if that something has been engraved with a very simple sentence of equality for many years, then no, it won't change meanings.
After years of hearing it, I can’t stand the word “empowerment” anymore.
Yes, the term no longer means what the term actually means.
same. When you have every corporation giving diversity handouts, and when the military industrial complex is headed by women, then you've already been empowered, it's done.
@@NYG5 yeah. It’s just a gross word now. I’d rather hear the word “moist” whispered into my ear every hour for a month than hear “empowerment” again.
Usually it comes from a half dressed singer, grinding her butt on the stage, then talking about how empowered she feels.
@@coeurdelion1193 plastiquettes doing that on stage is fine, but the mangas showing the anime tiddies is muh male gaze
fun fact $1.50@ 112, 000 seats (standard cap) per game... averaging 38 games per season $5.7ish million per season guaranteed.
This is insanity. Thank you for clearly explaining the issue. Doublespeak, obfuscation, and denial seem to be the underlying themes. Blows my mind how the players can deny reality so confidently, wish I had that skill lol!
@James Stewart I have never seen a gap in my working life. Jobs have had grades of pay where I have worked and it didn't matter what sex you were as long as you could do they job and that was over 25 years ago. Plenty of women as supervisors and managers where I have worked too. In fact I would say they are treated better and get more chance of promotion these days. They appear to be applying 1950s era conditions (where they were under paid) to modern day, just like BLM do. If you tell a demographic they are a victim, they will try and take full advantage, its human nature. So funny how athletes are now suddenly having "mental health issues". This will probably spill over into the general working population. Western world is becoming weak and pathetic, China must be laughing.
@@randomcomputer7248 Indeed China laughing their ass off - as they just hire the best people regardless of immutable characteristics
They’re serial liars like cnn. Their whole life is a lie…..
It’s crazy how nowadays this information is so widely available to people at the touch of a couple buttons and they still chose to not do their own research and look into the lawsuits and instead just make up their opinions based on a couple article titles
Oh, this was the hardest pill I had to swallow in my life. People are just too distractable, lazy, and/or stupid to do ANY homework... especially if that research might result in contradicting their morally ritious, yet uninformed, opinions.
This is the big problem with the internet. Confirmation Bias. People search and find “THEIR TRUTH” Not THE TRUTH.
It’s happening in medicine too. You search and find the illness to validate your weaknesses.
Well no reason for truth on social media, how else do we easily manipulate the masses
Then when they lose, they act surprised.
One has to laugh!
@@jmfreedome9863 but I can lament not only at others, but at my own distractable nature. There are many things I believe I should study, but don't. For many people though I think our current situation is also due to the fact that people have jobs and families and responsibilities to tend to and don't have the time/energy it takes to research every news article on their own. People have come to trust a certain news provider and then believe everything they say. If people didn't misrepresent and lie about things we potentionally could live that way. If not for sources like this I would have continued believing what my friend told me about the womens/mens soccer pay gap not realising that the issue is more complex than that. That is why I am really grateful to people like Nate here that invest their time and energy to represent the facts.
How is it that this can be broken down to an elementary level by an attorney on TH-cam who practices in NY but this completely flies over the President of the United States head???
Because the president is just saying what his voters like to hear.
Because he's not an attorney and doesn't really care either way?
Must have been asleep.
Facts lol! It’s cuz Joe Biden is a fairly incompetent president tho 🤷🏽♂️
Because the president is a senile old man
Excellent explanation, simple and clear.
So they had a judge point out all this information, ignored it and continued to cry foul on their "unequal pay"?.
Seems like soccer players to me
@@manuelmayer9795 seems about right for the post-modern feminists.
yes, they are a damn embarrassment meant to push a lie to gullible idiots who will believe it. They don't even believe the lie, they are acting disingenuous to contribute to the collapse of our society, well, they do it for "glory" and vanity to elevate their celebrity status, but the people using them are doing it to plant a bad, self destructive, FAKE idea into the head of anyone who will believe the lies.
@@manuelmayer9795 These women complaining about equal pay are just like the soccer players who drop to the ground holding their leg to try to get a call acting like they’re writhing in pain then they get up and start running after the call is made.
This what liberalism and democratic politics is. Facts don't matter. All that matters is your feelings. If you feel like a victim then it doesn't matter what your situation is. Even if you're overcompensated, entitled, and just a flat our lier.
"Best damn soccer team in the world." I think there are some high school boys who'd beg to disagree with that statement.
There is a meme going around that says the school age boys want to be paid the same as the women do.
Indeed
I’m laughing in European
megan keeps going on about they are doing the same thing. no they aren't doing the same thing. they are doing something similar but definitely not the same thing. megan plays vs other women. the men's team plays against other men. that is different because the competition is different. it's like comparing college foot ball to the nfl. if megan truly wants to play under the exact same conditions, she should get her whole team together and join the men's league. i doubt they'll even beat a single professional men's team.
Why not play their loss against a young boys team on tv in front of whoever brings it up at any place before those who beg to differ just to prove a point if they are the best or really the best overall that needs to generated more income....if they have their way, then its the entire world too...besides i dont hear the mens team losing to any young team as of yet...have they...
People often confuse "Compensation" with "Salary'. Just look at Steve Jobs: he famously drew a salary of just a $1 per year at Apple. Yet his compensation was worth tens of millions of dollars per year because it included stock options, benefits, and perks. Likewise, public employees often complain that they "get paid less" than those in private companies because their "salaries" are less. However, the public employees often have generous benefits and retirement plans they never count in their "compensation."
True. My buddy’s pension and benefits are sweet and he’ll be able to retire with it at 50 while I’ll be working til I’m in my 60s.
Very true. My brother made a similar salary to me when he was working at Goldman Sachs, but my total compensation at the University of Utah blew him out of the water with my benefits package. My health benefits are slightly better, but for retirement GS would match him up to 4% while the university automatically gives me 14.3% regardless of what I choose to contribute. Total compensation is often overlooked
I wish more people knew this. I am a 1099 employee. My check may be more than my W-2 brethren, but with all the Healthcare and PTO they get equates to more than I may get to play with after all my expenses
yes, and there's something wrong with that. Look at all the billionaires popping out of the woodwork who pay < 1% income tax, while the working class pays 25-40% income tax.
Public employees rarely have generous benefits or benefits at all and most public jobs do not offer any kind of retirement whatsoever.
Stuff you're talking about offer government employees.