The Role of the Baritone Saxophone in the Big Band

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  • The late master of the baritone saxophone, Joe Temperley, sat with us in 2013 to talk about the role of the baritone saxophone in a big band. For decades, Joe served as the anchor of the Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra's saxophone section, and his work can be heard on many of the JLCO's recordings.
    The world said goodbye to Joe on May 11, 2016. Learn more about the life and music of this Jazz Legend here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcOQE...
    Joe Temperley - Baritone Saxophone
    Eric Suquet - Director
    Bill Thomas - Director of Photography
    Rich Emery - Production Assistant
    Seton Hawkins - Producer
    Recorded May 22, 2013

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  • @mercharris5266
    @mercharris5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Love they this guy couldn’t go four words without playin. Musician for sure lol. Great instrument

  • @michelthebaritone5265
    @michelthebaritone5265 6 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    The Bari is the tone, the depth of the sax section as well as of the whole band. Such a pleasure playing the Baritone within a band

    • @cylthharcon797
      @cylthharcon797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My band throw shade at me but im the only full time bari player so they say my part is boring so I don't grow which is infuriating

    • @Aduysvmncmkouyf
      @Aduysvmncmkouyf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really isn’t it cant anchor the band like the Low brass does it?

    • @BariBone
      @BariBone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Aduysvmncmkouyf As someone who has played both, I would say that the Bari gives a sense of grounding, I’ve played without baris before and even as a bass bone I didn’t really feel grounded
      In terms of the saxes, most of the time they should blend with the Bari sound, as it is essentially it’s bass and therefore it’s ground
      In terms of the band, Bari, bass, and bass bone gives the ground, trombones give support, and tenors give countermelodies, while alto and trumpet give melody (for most charts)

    • @Aduysvmncmkouyf
      @Aduysvmncmkouyf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BariBone Sorry, forget this comment I wrote it 2 months ago. Anyways it does give the band a grounding, like all the other instruments in its range(trombone/baritone/tuba/bass clarinet) although I mistake it for bass clarinet sometimes so I understand now. Also this is a quick question would switching from bass clarinet to trombone be good? I don’t know if you would know but it’s similar to the sax.

    • @Aduysvmncmkouyf
      @Aduysvmncmkouyf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BariBone They should sound like one. Usually

  • @willis251
    @willis251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    His tone truly gives me goosebumps. Hands down best bari tone I’ve ever heard. He’s a true blessing to our ears.

    • @d.harrison1570
      @d.harrison1570 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I noticed that too. Just perfect.

  • @roninatorinc.1185
    @roninatorinc.1185 6 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Baritone is the most fun to play in my opinion :D

    • @RoseCadenza
      @RoseCadenza 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ikr? It's so fun, but it's a struggle carrying around.

    • @axlbrito8459
      @axlbrito8459 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hannah the Musician yeah I play the bari sax in a marching band

    • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
      @WitchKing-Of-Angmar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Axl Brito ooo, your tough...try bass on for size

    • @Kevin-ek1su
      @Kevin-ek1su 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Art Deco city Architecture oh so you’ve marched bass sax in marching band?

    • @xhp_qhx7629
      @xhp_qhx7629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

  • @Samcatiscool
    @Samcatiscool 6 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    Best bari tone I've ever heard
    Edit: in my opinion

    • @firewalz0134
      @firewalz0134 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Laser Cat He's good, but that category goes to Harry Carney.

    • @2012tupi
      @2012tupi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That category goes to Gerry Mulligan

    • @scrammedeggs2322
      @scrammedeggs2322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gui Tupinamba Gerry sounds breathy

    • @2012tupi
      @2012tupi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, so does Stan Getz and Paul Desmond. I really like that warm airy sound

    • @Kevin-ek1su
      @Kevin-ek1su 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think Leo P or Ronnie Cuber

  • @KMerrells
    @KMerrells 6 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Good Lord, that tone is magnificent... (took a lot of restraint to avoid using profanity in my praise)

    • @plumpdy5810
      @plumpdy5810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kris Merrells just say god damn dude 😂😂

    • @joer3481
      @joer3481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      -$&&#!:&//+!!!! :-)

    • @franktheawaken7169
      @franktheawaken7169 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do have an old Buescher 400 baritone sax and it sounds like his bari. Does anyone knows what model mister Temperlay played?

  • @SkylersRants
    @SkylersRants 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    That's a very impressive vibrato. I love how you make that monster sound.

  • @nemo227
    @nemo227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have always loved to hear the baritone in every band I played in (when the band was big enough). It seemed to make playing my part easier and more enjoyable.

  • @miltonsalmeron900
    @miltonsalmeron900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He had one of the best sounds you can get out of a Bari Sax. Pure mastery

  • @francissadleir9805
    @francissadleir9805 6 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Rip joe temperley

    • @RoseCadenza
      @RoseCadenza 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I looked up when he died, and he died on my birthday. That's so sad.

    • @maxbehymer8535
      @maxbehymer8535 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hannah the Musician omg he died on my birthday too what

    • @madturklad
      @madturklad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxbehymer8535 wtf a day before mine

  • @RheaAC5
    @RheaAC5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    He makes it look so easy. 💜

    • @unfantardical6290
      @unfantardical6290 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      RheaAC5 Sax is one of the easiest instruments out there.

    • @cutedarcellmavis3211
      @cutedarcellmavis3211 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No

    • @user-yc3bi1ic1e
      @user-yc3bi1ic1e 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@unfantardical6290 That's the biggest lie in the universe

    • @unfantardical6290
      @unfantardical6290 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ꭰɾҽąʍքҽɾ it's not, bro, trust me.

    • @user-yc3bi1ic1e
      @user-yc3bi1ic1e 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unfantardical6290 It really depends

  • @bwhog
    @bwhog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The middle register in any instrument can be warm and very pleasing but, personally, I have always felt that most instruments (and this is particularly true for wood winds) sound best in the lower registers. There is a completely different character to a clarinet or a tenor or bari sax down low than up high and I think by going too high, you sacrifice much of the richness of the instrument. Ever since I first heard it in jr high band, I've always loved the sound of a bari sax down low.

    • @JewelBlueIbanez
      @JewelBlueIbanez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, the lower range of the oboe isn’t that beautiful.

    • @Harlem55
      @Harlem55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Woodwinds become shrill in the upper register (sousa's famous picolo counterpoint in stars and stripes is quite illustritive of how woodwinds tend to behave up high.) - which is why we usually have 4 Horns in F to balance out the classical ensemble.

  • @MikeJ6129
    @MikeJ6129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    We do it all from playing in unison with the lead trumpet to doubling the bass line !

    • @MrHestichs
      @MrHestichs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Classic arranging technique!

  • @Danox94
    @Danox94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He let his instrument do the talking. What a comfy video, RIP

  • @user-wn5ky1vz8m
    @user-wn5ky1vz8m 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    What a lovely sound ! 😍💕

  • @gnarlycharley2373
    @gnarlycharley2373 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Rest in peace joe

  • @scomdnz9
    @scomdnz9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joe had an amazing voice on the bari. Very lyrical and expressive without losing any depth and presence. I think of his sound often when I play bari.

  • @andrewgutauskas7085
    @andrewgutauskas7085 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what a treasure this video is! I miss Joe so much.

  • @sirnexus2k565
    @sirnexus2k565 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Love that Song at the Start! Intermission Riff! I actually play that Song with my Bari.

    • @chriscofer8773
      @chriscofer8773 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sir Nexus what’s the name?

    • @rg2baxk
      @rg2baxk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chriscofer8773 coco by duke ellington, some of the first words he says in the video

  • @glenntomassi3442
    @glenntomassi3442 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic great Joe!!

  • @mdsaj6316
    @mdsaj6316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Que som, timbre maravilhoso 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👌🏻👌🏻🎷🎷🎷👍🏻👌🏻🇧🇷🤦🏻‍♂️🎵🎷🎷👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @MrHIRO3019
    @MrHIRO3019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh Very Cool and Wondaful.
    I Love Baritone Saxophone.

  • @shebo2692
    @shebo2692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    rip to this legend fly high

  • @abedinsubashi
    @abedinsubashi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder what his setup is. It sounds amazing

  • @ender10man
    @ender10man 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    How do you make your bari sound like that. It sounds very buzzy

    • @childishclambino
      @childishclambino 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Webby The Dino You just need to practice alot, I've already achieved a "buzzy" tone after alot of practice.

    • @TheAvgCommentator
      @TheAvgCommentator 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Soft reeds with lots of support.

    • @plumpdy5810
      @plumpdy5810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Webby The Dino vibrato 😂😂

    • @ben_malie4407
      @ben_malie4407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Putting quite a lot of air into the instrument

    • @aedanrossiter7970
      @aedanrossiter7970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He plays a low Bb bari sax, which has quite a different sound than the low a bari’s we have today, I prefer low Bb bari saxes.

  • @jackstott8134
    @jackstott8134 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I model my tone after, Joe he's genuinely that beautiful

  • @Saxoprane
    @Saxoprane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful tone, which mouthpiece he's using ?

  • @jakobdurst8075
    @jakobdurst8075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What. A. Sound.

  • @gunsquadsoky7141
    @gunsquadsoky7141 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ily

  • @spiritbear8810
    @spiritbear8810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    what brand of Baritone sax is that? best voice/tone i've heard in a while

    • @ryancrow2773
      @ryancrow2773 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a selmer balanced action I believe

    • @katjoe1974
      @katjoe1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I strongly suspect that the person playing the sax, rather than the manufacturer of the sax, deserves the lion’s share of the credit for how it sounds

    • @jaycraig5154
      @jaycraig5154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It a 1950s Selmer Super Balanced Action that I bought from Jack Nimitz in 1985 and eventually sold to Joe. This is the original neck but it has been silver plated. Joe went out and found a vintage Selmer mouthpiece from the same period for the horn. (He usually played a Conn with a metal Link mouthpiece.) He was definitely not a Selmer baritone fan but occasionally borrowed this horn from me on short trips to the UK and kept bugging me to sell it to him. I don’t believe he used this Selmer horn and mouthpiece on big band gigs as he could not get enough volume but liked to play it with smaller groups.

  • @paulmuirhead48
    @paulmuirhead48 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do bass trombone too!

  • @livinglettuce6789
    @livinglettuce6789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really really want to play bari but I tried it and my arm isn’t long enough to completely reach the right hand spatula keys without straining. I was so disappointed...

    • @cylthharcon797
      @cylthharcon797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I play and my left hand is barely capable of playing low Bb side key but such is life I'm not gonna stop playing

    • @livinglettuce6789
      @livinglettuce6789 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that really great

    • @shoeboxcat25
      @shoeboxcat25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve been playing bari for three years and I’ve stretched my pinky to play those low notes so much that when I relax my right hand my pinky is stretched away from all my other fingers. My friend who plays the French horn has it even worse because I’m pretty sure the left pinky supports the whole instrument.

    • @drtruth1070
      @drtruth1070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Petite sax player here. Same. Ended up trying and getting an Allora Bari and the right hand spatula keys are actually placed well within reach. Hobby saxophonist only but the instrument is made well and sounds great. If you’re looking at others I believe they make some sort of extension mechanism that can be slipped over the keys to make them within reach. Nonetheless good luck with your Bari future.

  • @cyberchicken9713
    @cyberchicken9713 ปีที่แล้ว

    What Reed is he using

  • @MrAbstraxsax
    @MrAbstraxsax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There are people who play baritone and there are baritone players.... Unfortunately there are lots of the former....

  • @TheEmeraldStaff
    @TheEmeraldStaff 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    R.i.p

  • @josesarmientoB
    @josesarmientoB 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Que boquilla usas profesor

  • @BigBobbyBoLo
    @BigBobbyBoLo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    so its the brass version of playing bass within a big band construct? real question.

    • @juanlulourido548
      @juanlulourido548 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Bo B
      A-Sax is a woodwind inst,not brass
      B-It’s role is to support the other instruments,it has parts of trumpets,tromb and sax in his sheet usually

    • @BigBobbyBoLo
      @BigBobbyBoLo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Juanlu Lourido as you can tell by my ignorance I'm a not really a horn guy, even though I love the sound.. thanks for the clarification

    • @juanlulourido548
      @juanlulourido548 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bo B
      Ur welcome

    • @nou6990
      @nou6990 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      question. is the clarinet made of wood?

    • @carlosmendoza6820
      @carlosmendoza6820 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      u no high quality ones are. Cheaper clarinets are made of a special plastic

  • @PrinceSwaggy
    @PrinceSwaggy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why is your bell short

    • @skip8770
      @skip8770 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Most baris go down to a low a, which has a longer bell. However, some like this bari and the one I use, only go down to low b flat, which results in a shorter bell.

    • @PrinceSwaggy
      @PrinceSwaggy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Skip :] oh it looks weird on a bari with a short bell like if i we're to stick my hand in there it may not fit

    • @charlienyc1
      @charlienyc1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In addition to being a Bb bari, this is probably a vintage horn - a Buescher or Conn, for example. Those horns have a shorter look to them vs a newer Yamaha, Keilwerth, Selmer, etc.
      edit: He was definitely a Conn man - th-cam.com/video/c59J25pqoYI/w-d-xo.html

    • @MrAbstraxsax
      @MrAbstraxsax 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except that's a Selmer...….

    • @jaydavis1961
      @jaydavis1961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have we come to this? I thought you were being a smartypants in the very long running Low A vs. Low Bb baritone sax argument, but it seems you are actually unaware. Many (& me) will venture: That's a large component of getting that tone. Two companies (at least) still offer them, P. Mauriat (Taiwan)and Rampone & Cazzani (Italy)

  • @k.1784
    @k.1784 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You divided by 100,000,000 is me

  • @hotdogkiller3905
    @hotdogkiller3905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if the barista sax sounded warm instead of crunchy

    • @ryancrow2773
      @ryancrow2773 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go listen to some Gerry Mulligan if you want warm bari

  • @jeanhodgson8623
    @jeanhodgson8623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joe was one of the very finest baritone saxophone players. I have the greatest respect for him. The best baritone players avoided the horrible low A extension. Today, it would be hard to get one without it. If I were getting one, I would go for a Conn 12 M with rolled tone holes. Joe, and Gerry Mulligan, played that model. Pepper Adams played a Selmer Super Action (the one before the Mark VI) for most of his career. Harry Carney went with him to the store to buy it, in the late 1940s.
    Joe also played the bass clarinet, and didn't bother with the low C extension, which you don't really need.

  • @terrysaxmusic
    @terrysaxmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In my understanding, the baritone saxophone is really nice to play but the baritone saxophone is really, really, really, really expensive!

  • @johntucker2826
    @johntucker2826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    someone just forgot to tell any of this to Leo P ......

  • @grumblekin
    @grumblekin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played bari and it’s main role is to attract hot women.
    WHICH IT DOES WITHOUT FAIL

  • @jhonsmithers4853
    @jhonsmithers4853 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s for people who wanna play saxophone and pay an extra 1000 dollars for extra neck pain.

    • @lucassstache8069
      @lucassstache8069 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jhon Smithers lol buy a saxholder

    • @jhonsmithers4853
      @jhonsmithers4853 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one but my fan broke so I used my sax holder to hold it up.

    • @lucassstache8069
      @lucassstache8069 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jhon Smithers I see

  • @IndigosClothing
    @IndigosClothing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Barisax isnt even that loud

    • @adithyasriram633
      @adithyasriram633 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Then you've never heard a real Bari sax player

    • @IndigosClothing
      @IndigosClothing 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adithyasriram633 i did its loud but there are louder instruments

    • @charleslsax
      @charleslsax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well it depends on the player

    • @matthewbelike
      @matthewbelike 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @its jxy It doesn’t have to be.

    • @Kevin-ek1su
      @Kevin-ek1su 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In jazz band, I play bari and I’m the loudest sax out of the altos and tenors, but compared to trombones and trumpets then yeah no comparison.