@@springtrapnibba I love 7 days to die. And he obviously does too, yet he has criticized 7D2D in the past despite having interviewed TFP himself. He has no bias. Also, even similar games can feel completely different with the same issues. It is very possible for both games to have the same issues and people prefer to play one over the other. Did you think about that?
@blainebickle1178 doesn't really matter, he's choosing to play and promote a significantly less polished game that's been out for over a decade and still has these issues over a game that just released with more content and polish. It's a clear bias.
I know you said you don't want to become a channel that does negative coverage, but that actually makes it more trustworthy and compelling when you do critique a game 😅 I've watched at least one episode on every game you've covered, and it's always clear you try to love the games you play So when you can't love a game and tell us why, we take it seriously! But I am glad there's at least one channel on TH-cam that sincerely tries to love every game they play! It's a great break from the deluge of negative reviews and commentary
Useless comment. People over-do every response they make online. Instead of saying something is mid, they go straight to... SHIT. PERIOD. "They should pay me to play this" "This game better be free to play" etc. etc. Just a bunch of smart people brought up to be overly disrespectful over the most basic of things.
Agreed... I trust channels which honestly provide good reviews and bad reviews. I have dropped channels which have only provided good reviews because you soon realize you can't trust what they are saying when every game is good or great. I have also dropped channels showing gameplay where they NEVER die and NEVER make mistakes... sorry don't trust those either.
You should watch Shroud. He always looks at the positives in games unless they are ACTUALLY broken, aka RedFall. He even really enjoyed playing Cyberpunk when it first launched while everyone was loving hating on the game.
@@bongo2011 We don't want to watch anyone who "always looks at the positives in games"... we want someone to show the glass is half full and half empty.... not someone who only showcases positives unless the game is broken.
To be fair, when I played 7 days to die for the first time. It was very very early, and I thought it was unplayable. Now it's a favorite. So the desire to wait is definitely understandable.
I agree. I was downloading the game then suddenly I read a review that the game needs a internet connection even in single player. I was like "WTF?! WHAT KIND OF BS IS THIS?!", Then I stopped downloading the game then request a refund and get back playing Assassin Creed Origins. It was a HARD PASS for me 😢
Finally an honest review! Thank you. Tons of these youtubers are running around gushing over this - and I played it too so already know it's all as you say and not as they say. Going to be watching out for more reviews from you, honesty is awesome and very welcome.
5:00 offline mode is getting added. I think I’m about 10h or more in and I’m really enjoying it. It certainly still needs a lot of work though. Also combat is better than 7DTD imo :P seems pretty standard to me tbh, not too hard though due to side stepping & headshotting.
The very limited amount of gameplay that you did show has already convinced me. I like the concept but I think I will wait and see how it develops before buying in.
Game is amazing, friends and me having a blast. No need for dedicated servers play in the game game when everyone isn't online.......awesome, finally someone did it. Insane world differences as you create new realms and progress (this video is 1 realms past tutorial........no where at all into the game. Jumping through a new portal is amazing, almost have mist riven vibes to see what is through. OMG the reading........yah its great too, but can't win the young crowd over on that one. Good grief so many things not covered, the multiple magics and enchantments, the fact that every crafting ingredient doesnt make the same thing, like you make leather from hide, but the hides of every creature give different bonues and produce different leathers, giving you insane amounts of control over the gear you craft as it gets more complex.... But yah.....its slow, wants you to read, explore slowly and carefully, take time to read and think about each crafting ingredient and plan ahead.........lol this game was made for late 90s-2010s gamers, luckily they all have more money so it'll do just fine.
Im about 25 hours in and I dont think its bad, def worth the 24$ I spent for it. The combat needing fleshing out and not being able to craft from chests are my biggest gripes. Im just getting into survival games though so im not comparing it to any others
At least the good thing is that you are showing us what the game has and what the game lacks, and honestly I do love how the game looks; The UI, the art style, the buildings, and the animals. It's a good thing they are releasing it as early access and are listening to feedback, because I think there's a pretty sweet game here to be enjoyed in the future. I'll keep my eyes open and see what upgrades and tweaks they put in before release.
OK, I'm only in the first respite forest biome, playing on Easy, and the thing I take away from my first few hours is that this is what 7 Days to Die COULD have been (I know it's voxel but I mean the experience). Not sure what you guys are looking for in this kind of game. I've played Proj Zomboid, 7DtD, Vein, Prey...now maybe I've just missed the current darlings like Valheim but I'm thoroughly enjoying Nightingale. These games are always grindy since you need tons of resources in any crafting-intensive game. I haven't found combat problems. I don't want brutal combat, so there's that. I love complex crafting. SWG was my all-time favorite MMO for its resource/crafting system. So there's that. I love the colors and styles. I agree that the interface is very funky and I don't like the close button so far upper right. If I open with Tab, I want to close with Tab, for example. I'd like the NPC interactions to be a bit less Skyrim static, but that's a minor consideration. What I dislike the most is losing connectivity almost every time I transverse a realm. And there ARE memory leaks, so logging out periodically to allow memory to clear is necessary. Their people should be working on that. I think it's a great start, and can only get better. But thank you for the vid and opinions.
Before you read this let me first say- I love Nightingale and I have over 50 hours since it entered early access. Now here's a little of my view from what I've played. The combat is very lacking right now, but it does have 1 or 2 cool systems like the spells and charms which charms can go on armor as well. That said combat is a very big part of this game and it is not the most satisfying mechanic right now for a few reasons. For crafting it is very simple there are the augments but those are very easily done once you learn about them as well, it's just an interesting step added to the crafting process. Next, a lot of people are disappointed in a few UI elements and while I never have any issues with UI in games I can at least understand why some feel not so great about it. The world, animal/enemy design, portal mechanic, and art are absolutely great, they have a solid foundation in this regard. The voice acting when it's there is awesome. Some insight behind the negativity for online only I can understand, unfortunately, because I have very expensive internet, and the best option in my city (fiber internet) but I still experience waves of rubber-banding despite that and have had connection issues a few times while I only play alone. This is everything that was noticed on release so that's why there's a weird discourse with the game, BUT the devs have made community posts about fixing every issue I mentioned (unfortunately no combat improvements mentioned yet) so the future looks bright for the game now. All that we can do now is wait for updates and once the full release comes the EA reviews will be put to the side and there will be more positivity. Sorry for my grammar or punctuation. I forgot to mention QoL but almost everyone is aware of basic things missing the devs said they'll get the QoL implemented as well so again the future is looking good.
@@doomslayerforever2858 That's to be expected, but fortunately there's more to come. I think i will do another playthrough with different char, the map being always the same is a drawback tho. Or i'll reset my skills and start getting different gear.
@@michaelvial125 that doesnt make it any less boring, the issue(s) is the lack of mob variety, lack of a progression system, and the need to save quit for loot cause 90% of it is useless : s
Despite all its flaws that you mentioned and I agree with I powered through the really sluggish start to the game and I'm starting to have fun with the mid to late game content was hoping you'd do a series but I respect your decision to be honest and wait until its had more time in the oven.
Thank you so much for this. I kept quiet after playing the preview version cause I thought I'd be the only person who felt this way and who couldn't see the genius behind this gorgeous looking game. Now at least I know I'm not an idiot lmao.
Yeah I was worried I might have some survival game "fatigue" from playing enshrouded, palworld, etc. But a lot of people have the same complaints that I do from what I've seen and heard
Absolutely agree that Nightingale is not ready yet. I also played in the beta testing and the stress test - that the placeholder icons were still present for early and commonly used items was my very first indicator that I wasn't going to be playing the game on release. The emptiness of the worlds, the running for far too long between places needed to visit, no better transportation, hirable NPC cutting down trees and dropping them on my build repeatedly and not being able to stop that - hadn't changed and needs to. Visually stunning. Beautiful. But so much is needed to be a full, functional game even for early access. On the pages and pages of text - being a writer, I have to purposefully keep text in game short to encourage players to actually read the stuff they need to learn. Pages of backstory that just reminisce about what was before and doesn't lead the player to something - not necessary and gets skipped. Hoping it gets so much better so I have another survival game option. Thanks for Sharing!
I wholeheartedly agree on the lore/writing front. I don't mind a little bit of world-building but I just don't have the patience to stop and read after every single NPC interaction
Interesting review and fair. I'm excited about it and appreciate the way their approaching they're user evaluations and iterations. I hope many of the things you're sharing are improvements they make. In the meantime, I'm excited about it and as a person that doesn't play many survival games, I'm using this as an opportunity to get into the genre. My nostalgia for outward and the coop ability have me very engaged at the moment :)
Big Outward fan myself. I wouldn't let this guys agenda sway you. The game is much better than he's trying to imply. So much false information in this video it's scary.
Thank you for your honest opinion. I was hopeful from what I played in the beta. But seeing that nothing really changed... that's disappointing. I'll be playing it with some friends later so I'll have to see how that goes.
Thank you. I appreciate your honesty. This is a rare and valuable thing. I watch and like all of your videos, finding your approach to games in general well thought out and informative. This review, and the footage provided have convinced me that I too will wait for my first play through. I enjoy these types of games and was looking forward to this one, so with a bit of sadness I will wait.
Survival games should have certain quality of life things by default these days easy inventory sorting/depositing building from nearby containers a decent build system that is easy to use (see Conan Exiles for a great tile-based style at minimum) a reason to explore a reason to progress Nightingale looks awesome, as an Idea, my GF and I both got it, but we are going to wait awhile before we start it to let it get some patches first
@@Reezico the building system is nice at least, and yeah it went down when Funcom sold out to Tencent, they added a Battlepass, FOMO, and insanely priced microtransactions, mods are the only thing keeping it alive now, Funcom can't even release a functional patch for new content
All your concerns and tribulations are a sentiment I'd share so I appreciate you putting this out there to save us the time to find things out the hard way. There's too much out there to enjoy to be wasting time with everything that's released that needs more time to develop. Keep up the good work...
I did this for Cyberpunk - didn't touch the game until 1.5 update and my only regret is not waiting until phantom liberty to experience the full game as it should have been for the first time
Other folks have said it more eloquently than me, but I'm incredibly grateful that you were willing to record and post a review for a game you don't like. Especially if there was some anxiety around how it would be received both by your own subscribers, but people who enjoyed Nightingale despite all the flaws. Knowing your channel is one where I can get an honest opinion about a game makes me much more comfortable hearing your opinions on something even if I don't agree with them every time. It's great to find out that you're someone who will be honest for good or ill with your viewers and I appreciate that immensely. As a final note, I'm not sure what the conversations behind the scenes looked like with the developers, but in a time when it seems developers react to the idea their game is a mess by enforcement of review embargos and hoping they can trick enough people with flashy trailers. I'm happy to see a dev who's trying to do the right thing by both delaying their game to give themselves additional polish time, and allowing people to post their true thoughts.
@@GunsNerdsandSteel I understand I was talking about in general you were giving the Game and you did your job nothing against you I love your contact Especially the 7 days to dieyour videos of help me out a lot with that game LOL
To be fair a lot of early access games are completely working and a seemingly full experience, where the coming updates feel more like just another expansion instead of core updates. And getting something like combat wrong early access or not can be a pretty bad thing. I think this is a great and honest review and suggests it's not a game for me, at least not now. Free build systems like valheim make buildings more free and fun in my opinion too. The game looks amazing but it seems like a lot of it isn't stuff I'd enjoy
@@swe113 fair point but I don't think early access and a 1.0 game should be reviewed the same no matter how much content early access is still a unfinished game and also I think we need to be more patient as a community and customer base early access isn't for everyone 🤷🏿♂️
A review like this coming from someone who has had Nightingale on their top anticipated games for years is... Harsh but fair. Personally I am very fed up with the cycle of releasing half baked games in early access. With or without promises to make improvements
I tried the open beta test and i thought it was so bad that i removed it from my wishlist. I was looking forward to this game so much. I really hope they will update it alot and get it playable at some point.
This is exactly what happened to me. I was hardcore looking forward to this game. I hopped into beta as soon as I got all my info, etc... and was frustrated with the lack of everything. With all the survival games that ppl play and love to this date, and the preferences on QOL features alone - any new survival game that comes out, needs to be prepared to go up against that. I stopped playing beta and took it off my wishlist. Returning to watch ppl play now as it's released, it's sad to see that it still seems clunky, colors to me just blend into one neutral looking color and are blah, oddly. Nothing vibrant. I dunno... I have a large complain list sadly, lol.
I think developers relying too much on procedurally generated content is what's making all these games boring. No man's sky had some success with it even with a really rocky start and now everyone is trying to replicate it and failing. Starfield should've been a wakeup call that if you just plop down procedurally generated content as the main focus of a game, players will burn out on the copy pasted content all over the place. Inflexion should've focused on combat game play and hand crafted ebvironments while using AI to expedite a lot of the building instead of just having it do their job for them. I'm all for using innovative technologies in games but it's obviously lowering the quality of gaming as we move forward.
I find your assessment fair. Watching other folks play it so far, fit your explanation. It needs a bit more polish but I know the folks who are playing it will enjoy it and hopefully the devs will listen to them, while polishing the game for improvements.
It's working fine for me. Sure there's a few bugs and glitches, but nothing game breaking for me. I'm loving the story, mostly. Yeah, it's a bit long-winded but bearable. Some of the things you showed in your video, I haven't experienced. I also didn't play any of the tests. All in all, I'm enjoying t'm enjoying the game.
Sadly your observations are true. Coming out after games like Valheim are out in a good state and 2 other survival games that show how to do it better and in a more modern way, Nightingale really missed the mark. Would have been an early access release half a decade ago, but the genre moved on.
Thank you for the honesty on this one. I felt a lot of that as I played it my first time during their last stress test. Especially the inventory system. I had fun with the stress test, but when it released on Steam I didn't feel the motivation to buy iand play it. Figured I'd let it be for a while in hopes that they eventually make some big QOL changes.
Hey man, everything you said was fair. I have been waiting for 2 years for this game. I also played the alphas and honestly, it is cool but it is definitely in Early Access. I will be playing it because I like the genre and i like the portal card system and contrary to you, i like having similar items of different qualities. Like you said, it means alot more inventory, but i like the fact that you can create things of different qualities based on what you have on hand. Do I feel this game compares to other Early Access games? No, look at Enshrouded. I think the game has potential so I am picking it up, somewhat like I did 10 years ago with some ugly looking, janky combat/movement game called 7 Days to Die. That one has turned out well. I am hoping Nightingale turns out half as good. Appreciate you transparency though and look forward to your next video!
Really appreciate the honest review - and not hiding it behind an absurdly excitable thumbnail too (like the handful of suggested videos off to the right). I've been hyped for this game since it was first previewed and have been patient so far, I can let it cook longer. You pointed out a lot of things that are red flags to me; hopefully in time, changes/fixes will come. You may not want to think of yourself as an influencer, but your taste and opinions on survival games line up with mine and a lot of your viewers, so seeing you get early access to a game is exciting because it's kind of like indirectly getting it myself/ourselves. You ground through ark, icarus, palworld, modded and unmodded 7d2d, etc... you're used to working through a level of jank to find the fun in a game, so when you talk about feeling no excitement about jumping back into a game, it is very influential. I was going to stream it tonight going in blind, but I'm glad I gave in and watched this first - refunded before putting too many hours in and have enough time to change gears. Also, knowing that you are willing to give an honest non-positive review of a game instead of faking your enjoyment or ghosting us gives your opinion so much more credibility and influence even if it gets backlash from devs - so kudos to you for that.
Sounds like you just stopped playing before you got to magic, that has a big influence on combat. It seems like harder and different puzzles unlock at higher difficulty areas. I hope you give it a little longer next time you try it.
"You can only play a game for the first time once." Thats me with Enshrouded right now. I bought it right on release but i want my first play through to be really loved, so im trying to wait for a sort of 1.1 patch if that makes sense.
Understand the point on this, however Enshrouded devs did block out some of the content from Early Access. So there will be new things to do at full release. :)
@@malguskerensky not only some of the content. Most of it, at least regarding the map size. It´s currently 24x24 and will be 64x64. I also think Level 25 won´t be the end. It looks like we will have a good second first time with Enshrouded.
Just wait, man. I put in about 140hrs and just got board. Its not even a survival game, just an RPG with crafting/building, nothing more. Its quite easy and gets boaring pretty quick, for a game of this genre. I put in +400hrs on Valheim, the first year it released. I was just hooked for a while, but that game is in a class of its own.
I really appreciate you making this video even though it's not your style. It's nice to get perspective on survival games especially with so many being released so close to one another.
Glad I saw this. I was close to buying it. I'm going to hold off or just move on to something else. Anyone know if that Lord of the Rings Moria game is any good?
Dude ! You're so right ! Everything you say was 100% accurate and true ! Thanks, you share my vision of this game. Except maybe for the satisfaction in combat, the axe is satisfying. It's the only weapon you really seem to hit something with.
Nice, I was on the fence waiting for release to get either this or Enshrouded. this and all the twitch streams to get the drops tells me more than enough. Much love dude.
100% Enshrouded is way more fun. I played Nightingale for a couple of hours today, and it just felt clunky. It's absolutely gorgeous. I wanted to like it. But it just feels so clunky it breaks immersion. Especially the character movement and the fighting, and I felt like I spent most of my three hours going back-and-forth carrying resources to try to build my basic starter hut. And it was stuttering all over the place and super laggy because I guess their servers were busy. And then it crashed and I haven't been able to get back on because of network issues. But the whole time I was playing, trying to give it a fair shot, all I could I just kept thinking I just wanna go back and play more Enshrouded. Enshrouded is just more fun than this.
Havent even played it bruh, it's just a logic based response to someone who wants to appear as an internet crusader. "I KNEW THE GAME WAS SHIT, EVERYONE CHAMPION ME"@@IchbinX
Thanks for your honest opinion. I have been in doubt over getting this. I'm sure I will hop on it eventually, but your video made me skip it for now. Also I'm still all in for Enshrouded right now and I guess for many hours to come. Really loving that game. Thanks for your content, great as always! :)
I was a tester too and have been expecting big backlash upon its release. What they promised, what they promoted, what they showed during "gameplay" videos set expectations that were simply not going to be met in the actual game. I agree entirely with everything you've touched on here and frankly you probably just saved a lot of your fans some buyer's regret. Because to whatever extent games like Palworld and Enshrouded feel like games made by gamers for gamers, even in EA, Nightingale feels like it's creators just saw their first video game last week.
i just started content creation not too long ago and hope to be on your level one day. love the editing style and the whole story aspects you do. i know i dont have a fan base to stand on but a big issue i had... letting youtubers spam gameplay for the past week before release. made me not even want to play or make content. normally they tell everyone to hold back till the day of release. which imo thats fair game but the week of content before release. then finding out its an incomplete game and were at the mercy of a good server. thats a big big bummer for a lot of ppl especially new creators that wanted to cover it on release day. sorry for the rant i dont normally make negative comments like this.
You can tell nobody knows how to fish when you see them try to fish in Nightingale, you need to keep your tension tight, which means you're not supposed to aim your rod directly at the fish. But the opposite direction from it. 😂😂
Thanks, Tem. This was exactly the review I needed for this game. I've been looking forward to Nightingale since they first announce it, and am very disappointed that I can't afford it right now. I'll be glad to see some improvements by the time I can buy it. It's unfortunate that it isn't quite living up to the hype, but it's good to know the devs are listening to feedback.
Im glad before I got home from work that I watched your video.. Im a big fan of your content, and I think 6+ hours of play time is enough to give an accurate review of a game. Im gonna wait on this one.. it just stinks waiting so long for something you think is gonna be the next big survival game, only to have it fall short.. thanks Tem!
I think Enshrouded spoiled me in terms of how combat should look like, even if it's just a single-button basic attack type of moveset. Just looking at how janky this looks here it's a hard pass for me. Combat in this game looks like woodcutting does in RAFT. Thank you for saving me the effort on refunding it.
"it's not ready" is a thing people will always say about an early access. I for one think that nightingale is pretty darn good for a game coming out with unreal engine 5 and loads of very small bugs like umbrella clipping and incorrect animations turning on and off in third person for consumables. Third person btw is experimental. The thumbnail looks pretty negative in my eyes, maybe change it to "not ready but..." or something. It's dumb to say "it isn't ready" when it's "EARLY ACCESS" I swear the humans' brains have rot within their skulls...
Thank goodness! I didn't care for it based on the early release play of other youtubers, and when I saw this video notification from your channel, I thought you were going to do a play through.
That's exactly the way I felt about those issues. It's disappointing. I've been waiting years for this, only to see them fall on their face, at this point.
I have spent the day in-game now and I have NO IDEA what planet this guy is from. Nothing he is bitching about is present. When I hit someone with a stone axe, the sheer weight of the impact is translated to the mob being struck by actual weight. Not just "24 HP damage" but he falls on one knee and is noticeably injured and stunned by the hit. The building is a snap with a great central repository system. And the graphs are absolutely madness. I've taken dozens of screenshots so far just because of how beautiful and truly breathtaking they are. Marking this channel as "whiney douchebag".
My experience with the game has been more similar to yours. I don't think he's being a "whiney douchebag" though. From watching his gameplay, to me it looks like his game is having some performance and stability issues. Games in early access can perform wildly different for different people until the game gets stabilized and polished. I also noticed he seemed to totally miss some mechanics and functionality within the game. And in his defense, the game's menus can be pretty clunky and cluttered, so it's not surprising. What I do think this shows is that the devs are going to be fighting an up hill battle with success if they don't streamline some things in the game. Right or wrong, a game on Steam has about two hours to hook someone, since most people aren't going to be willing to give it 6 hours(and exit the refund window), like he did in each of his attempts. This video does not reflect my personal experience with the game at all, but I do believe it genuinely reflects his.
Thank you for the review! I'm still going to pick it up but you gave me some good information on what I might be walking into. Hopefully the devs use this early access to listen to player feedback and affect meaningful changes to the game.
Thanks Tem! I was wondering if this game was coming to the channel, and it's good to know now that it's not. I was totally on board to get this game asap because so much of it looked so good. I absolutely love the aesthetic, but aesthetic cannot make up for boring gameplay. I'm going to use this video as a warning and wait until I watch some more gameplay before deciding if I buy. Thanks again.
I appreciate your honest review. Hopefully I won't come to quickly share your opinion, but so far I'm really enjoying the game. I do have some concerns, but I'm trying to stay positive while I learn the ropes here in the early stages.
I appreciate your honest opinion and willingness to not merely jump on the latest sponsored game of the day. This entire video, to me, is mainly building trust in your quality requirements. It speaks toward your integrity and I respect that, particularly since all the other channels are merely espousing this games qualities. I respect your viewpoint all the more for this video.
Just like you Tem had this game on my wishlist/radar since forever ago. Bought it for me and friend right when it was available. So first we didn’t know that we had to get through the tutorial to meet up. Ok no big deal but that third and final portal you have to go through glitched for my friend. So she beat the 2/3 waves of monsters waited and waited and waited and waited for it to open. NOTHING HAPPENED !!! Restart same thing. She tried 4 times on the same character nothing. She had to delete the first character and start all over again. And is anyone else having a problem splitting stacks? Not going into the fire or anything I mean going from your inventory to storage. I CAN’T SPLIT. Keep up the great work brother. Looking forward to your next idea for 7d2d. Let’s hope Derelict will be better than this release.
Like most people here, I appreciate the honesty. There's nothing wrong with straightforward critique of a game. You aren't bashing it or trying to push your opinion, you're just saying what you think without nit picking everything to justify your stance. I still plan to try playing it with my friends, as we've been looking forward to the whole Victorian feel combined with some magic. we'll see how it goes. I'm grateful for the warning on the parts that are likely to irritate me. Much better to know that in advance than get frustrated by the surprise.
ok, so the irony of this is that I tried to play it, and can't because I'm unable to progress beyond the tutorial due to an issue encountered by some people that they do not know the reason for. lol
promise that this game gave in the trailers was downright mesmerizing, the people who were responsible for their direction, lighting, hats off to them, brilliant work. But then came the alpha test, and.... I can't remember the last time I was so disappointed with a game. Not because it was so bad, but because it was so perfectly bland, there was absolutely nothing left of the atmosphere of the trailers, the art director instead of being tempted by stylization decided to go for semirealism, which already looks...yes, perfectly bland, and in a year or two it will only be worse, on top of that the introduction to the game world is non existt. World building with walls of text worked in the 80s, not today. Worst of all, I completely fail to see how the developers were going to fix all this.
Yeh, except for the whole being correct and stating facts thing. As long as you don't mind those things missing and are ok with an agenda, this is decent.
good video and good content. You were fair and told the devs what you found wrong. I like your playstyle and the stories you often manage to tell. This game is currently missing your mark and I way prefer you tell us that. Way better than avoiding your truth. Carry on making the stuff you like and taking us along for the journey.
This was my worry after watching the alfa testing videos that where out there. Was so hoping this would be good, because i love the idea of finding cards and navigating a rich and interesting world.
Do you think the games success will change your appraisal? I remember watching a guy having a lot of fun playing palworld, and then watching your video and you saying it was kinda meh, but then you did a series (which I enjoyed) Although this one seems way more critical than your palworld first look
I agree with your take if you're looking for a new game to play and sink your time into, then Nightingale isn't for you. However, if you enjoy taking part in the processing of being part of a new game that is coming to make and will one day mature into something unique and very enjoyable, this is probably a very fine place to start.
Thank you soooo much, I really didn't have money to throw down on this game with rent right around the corner, also I don't see this as a negative or hateful review this was absolutely perfect and what I needed to know about Nightingale right now, still interested in playing it but I do want to wait a few a few months, thanks to your review!!! (Just introduced my new roommate to 7 days to die and he's already 35 hours invested, despite not being a gamer)
Heck! Thanks for being honest, I was going to buy it but I'll wait until they get it together more. Also, when will we see some more Icarus?? Love your videos! ❤
I just write a steam review on this game before watching this video. And I expressed 90% of the same things. Thank you for the honesty! I even said “this game needs more time to cook” in my review 😂
I wish I would have watched this yesterday! I didn't really want to play this but also wanted something new to play. It's downloaded so we'll see how it goes today. What else is good right now to play?
I really appreciate you showing me all this ....the Forrest building mechanic I hate, the combat looks really jankey I agree, Thank you for the full breakdown, this is why I watch your channel.
Thank you for the honest review, too many say what a great game it is. I played for 15 minutes and took my refund. Thanks again for your honesty, this could become a great game!!
I have to agree with pretty much everything he said. I bought this to play with a friend and I was over it after a few hours. Couldn't figure out how to make better gear for a while, building was mostly awful, inventory management.....it's hard to even sort stuff....the dungeons and puzzles seem very barebones....etc.
I've played for many hours already, and I'm enjoying so far. When I bought the game in early access, that's exactly what I was expecting. They need to polish if they want this game not to flop, but as an early access game it's honest.
Thank you for that video. This plus seeing the negative reviews that mention things like gamecrashes, disconnects and bad performance made me say no, i will wait with buying.
Your honest review for the betterment of Nightingale is refreshing and appreciative! While some might say it's negative, it's constructive which dev teams will come to realize is helpful instead of constant praises. I agree that early access for this one can only make it better. I switched off the game after about 1.5-2 hours into the stress test because it had me wanting more. This was kind of disappointing as Nightingale was one of the top 3 survival games on my 2024 Wishlist. I hope time and attention to feedback will bring it to all its potential!
its not that bad if you enjoy simple things for firts day. Ofc if you want all at ones its aproblem. Game is not that bad just when you play alot other better you notice ishues.
I personally loved this video, I usually never comment on TH-cam but it gave some good insight. I bought the game never the less in hopes that the development goes in a positive direction in the months and years to come.
Honestly I can understand the frustration because currently the game really does feel kind of empty and the combat is not satisfying there is no real indication when you are hit and minor things like that, but I personally am enjoying the game and there is potential for the future but that all depends on the devs.
No offline mode = No purchase. I don't want lag and delay in my single player game and I often play these kind of games when my Internet goes down.
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Thank you for the honest review! It means a lot when someone who isn't a channel that does a lot of complaining, puts out a critique like this.
your taking the opinion of a man who STILL plays 7 days to die as if every issue he had in this review isnt a glaring issue of 7 days to die.
@@springtrapnibba I love 7 days to die. And he obviously does too, yet he has criticized 7D2D in the past despite having interviewed TFP himself. He has no bias. Also, even similar games can feel completely different with the same issues. It is very possible for both games to have the same issues and people prefer to play one over the other. Did you think about that?
@@springtrapnibba also, *you're
@blainebickle1178 doesn't really matter, he's choosing to play and promote a significantly less polished game that's been out for over a decade and still has these issues over a game that just released with more content and polish. It's a clear bias.
@@springtrapnibba Because he likes one game over the other... It's very strange that you care so much that he enjoys playing one game over the other.
I know you said you don't want to become a channel that does negative coverage, but that actually makes it more trustworthy and compelling when you do critique a game 😅
I've watched at least one episode on every game you've covered, and it's always clear you try to love the games you play
So when you can't love a game and tell us why, we take it seriously!
But I am glad there's at least one channel on TH-cam that sincerely tries to love every game they play! It's a great break from the deluge of negative reviews and commentary
Useless comment. People over-do every response they make online. Instead of saying something is mid, they go straight to... SHIT. PERIOD. "They should pay me to play this" "This game better be free to play" etc. etc. Just a bunch of smart people brought up to be overly disrespectful over the most basic of things.
Agreed... I trust channels which honestly provide good reviews and bad reviews.
I have dropped channels which have only provided good reviews because you soon realize you can't trust what they are saying when every game is good or great.
I have also dropped channels showing gameplay where they NEVER die and NEVER make mistakes... sorry don't trust those either.
You should watch Shroud. He always looks at the positives in games unless they are ACTUALLY broken, aka RedFall. He even really enjoyed playing Cyberpunk when it first launched while everyone was loving hating on the game.
@@bongo2011 I agree he is usually pretty positive... a rare thing these days in gaming.
@@bongo2011 We don't want to watch anyone who "always looks at the positives in games"... we want someone to show the glass is half full and half empty.... not someone who only showcases positives unless the game is broken.
To be fair, when I played 7 days to die for the first time. It was very very early, and I thought it was unplayable. Now it's a favorite. So the desire to wait is definitely understandable.
Always online, even for single player, is a 100% hard pass for a lot of people
what a stupid mistake to make.
second that!
@@KenetorTVThird!
Yeah I am kinda over the online only thing as well
I agree. I was downloading the game then suddenly I read a review that the game needs a internet connection even in single player. I was like "WTF?! WHAT KIND OF BS IS THIS?!", Then I stopped downloading the game then request a refund and get back playing Assassin Creed Origins. It was a HARD PASS for me 😢
How can the CCP monitor your computer if you aren't online?
This is exactly how I feel about the game. It just left me bored and i sighed everytime I had to go to a new realm and do another boring quest.
Finally an honest review! Thank you. Tons of these youtubers are running around gushing over this - and I played it too so already know it's all as you say and not as they say. Going to be watching out for more reviews from you, honesty is awesome and very welcome.
Really shows the reviewers with integrity
5:00 offline mode is getting added.
I think I’m about 10h or more in and I’m really enjoying it. It certainly still needs a lot of work though.
Also combat is better than 7DTD imo :P seems pretty standard to me tbh, not too hard though due to side stepping & headshotting.
Yeh, that amount of false info he's got in here is just crazy.
ill still play. till the jank and tediousness gets me :) the world is beautifull and atmospheric.
The very limited amount of gameplay that you did show has already convinced me. I like the concept but I think I will wait and see how it develops before buying in.
Game is amazing, friends and me having a blast. No need for dedicated servers play in the game game when everyone isn't online.......awesome, finally someone did it. Insane world differences as you create new realms and progress (this video is 1 realms past tutorial........no where at all into the game. Jumping through a new portal is amazing, almost have mist riven vibes to see what is through. OMG the reading........yah its great too, but can't win the young crowd over on that one. Good grief so many things not covered, the multiple magics and enchantments, the fact that every crafting ingredient doesnt make the same thing, like you make leather from hide, but the hides of every creature give different bonues and produce different leathers, giving you insane amounts of control over the gear you craft as it gets more complex....
But yah.....its slow, wants you to read, explore slowly and carefully, take time to read and think about each crafting ingredient and plan ahead.........lol this game was made for late 90s-2010s gamers, luckily they all have more money so it'll do just fine.
Im about 25 hours in and I dont think its bad, def worth the 24$ I spent for it. The combat needing fleshing out and not being able to craft from chests are my biggest gripes. Im just getting into survival games though so im not comparing it to any others
At least the good thing is that you are showing us what the game has and what the game lacks, and honestly I do love how the game looks; The UI, the art style, the buildings, and the animals.
It's a good thing they are releasing it as early access and are listening to feedback, because I think there's a pretty sweet game here to be enjoyed in the future. I'll keep my eyes open and see what upgrades and tweaks they put in before release.
OK, I'm only in the first respite forest biome, playing on Easy, and the thing I take away from my first few hours is that this is what 7 Days to Die COULD have been (I know it's voxel but I mean the experience). Not sure what you guys are looking for in this kind of game. I've played Proj Zomboid, 7DtD, Vein, Prey...now maybe I've just missed the current darlings like Valheim but I'm thoroughly enjoying Nightingale. These games are always grindy since you need tons of resources in any crafting-intensive game. I haven't found combat problems. I don't want brutal combat, so there's that. I love complex crafting. SWG was my all-time favorite MMO for its resource/crafting system. So there's that. I love the colors and styles.
I agree that the interface is very funky and I don't like the close button so far upper right. If I open with Tab, I want to close with Tab, for example. I'd like the NPC interactions to be a bit less Skyrim static, but that's a minor consideration. What I dislike the most is losing connectivity almost every time I transverse a realm. And there ARE memory leaks, so logging out periodically to allow memory to clear is necessary. Their people should be working on that. I think it's a great start, and can only get better. But thank you for the vid and opinions.
Before you read this let me first say- I love Nightingale and I have over 50 hours since it entered early access. Now here's a little of my view from what I've played. The combat is very lacking right now, but it does have 1 or 2 cool systems like the spells and charms which charms can go on armor as well. That said combat is a very big part of this game and it is not the most satisfying mechanic right now for a few reasons. For crafting it is very simple there are the augments but those are very easily done once you learn about them as well, it's just an interesting step added to the crafting process. Next, a lot of people are disappointed in a few UI elements and while I never have any issues with UI in games I can at least understand why some feel not so great about it. The world, animal/enemy design, portal mechanic, and art are absolutely great, they have a solid foundation in this regard. The voice acting when it's there is awesome. Some insight behind the negativity for online only I can understand, unfortunately, because I have very expensive internet, and the best option in my city (fiber internet) but I still experience waves of rubber-banding despite that and have had connection issues a few times while I only play alone. This is everything that was noticed on release so that's why there's a weird discourse with the game, BUT the devs have made community posts about fixing every issue I mentioned (unfortunately no combat improvements mentioned yet) so the future looks bright for the game now. All that we can do now is wait for updates and once the full release comes the EA reviews will be put to the side and there will be more positivity. Sorry for my grammar or punctuation. I forgot to mention QoL but almost everyone is aware of basic things missing the devs said they'll get the QoL implemented as well so again the future is looking good.
Thank you for the review! I've been playing Enshrouded and it looks like I'll stick with that. Thanks again.
i mean enshrouded is boring after lvl 25 as well
@@doomslayerforever2858 That's to be expected, but fortunately there's more to come. I think i will do another playthrough with different char, the map being always the same is a drawback tho. Or i'll reset my skills and start getting different gear.
@@michaelvial125 that doesnt make it any less boring, the issue(s) is the lack of mob variety, lack of a progression system, and the need to save quit for loot cause 90% of it is useless : s
lol, Enshrouded is so bad. It's a kiddo game for people that would play games on Peaceful or Builder mode.
Weird flex but okay if it makes you feel good
Despite all its flaws that you mentioned and I agree with I powered through the really sluggish start to the game and I'm starting to have fun with the mid to late game content was hoping you'd do a series but I respect your decision to be honest and wait until its had more time in the oven.
Thank you so much for this. I kept quiet after playing the preview version cause I thought I'd be the only person who felt this way and who couldn't see the genius behind this gorgeous looking game. Now at least I know I'm not an idiot lmao.
Yeah I was worried I might have some survival game "fatigue" from playing enshrouded, palworld, etc. But a lot of people have the same complaints that I do from what I've seen and heard
GNS really is one of the best. I see what your doing lately and its a job well done. Been here since Undead Legacy playthrough! Thanks
Absolutely agree that Nightingale is not ready yet.
I also played in the beta testing and the stress test - that the placeholder icons were still present for early and commonly used items was my very first indicator that I wasn't going to be playing the game on release.
The emptiness of the worlds, the running for far too long between places needed to visit, no better transportation, hirable NPC cutting down trees and dropping them on my build repeatedly and not being able to stop that - hadn't changed and needs to.
Visually stunning. Beautiful. But so much is needed to be a full, functional game even for early access.
On the pages and pages of text - being a writer, I have to purposefully keep text in game short to encourage players to actually read the stuff they need to learn. Pages of backstory that just reminisce about what was before and doesn't lead the player to something - not necessary and gets skipped.
Hoping it gets so much better so I have another survival game option.
Thanks for Sharing!
I wholeheartedly agree on the lore/writing front. I don't mind a little bit of world-building but I just don't have the patience to stop and read after every single NPC interaction
Interesting review and fair. I'm excited about it and appreciate the way their approaching they're user evaluations and iterations. I hope many of the things you're sharing are improvements they make.
In the meantime, I'm excited about it and as a person that doesn't play many survival games, I'm using this as an opportunity to get into the genre. My nostalgia for outward and the coop ability have me very engaged at the moment :)
Big Outward fan myself. I wouldn't let this guys agenda sway you. The game is much better than he's trying to imply. So much false information in this video it's scary.
Thank you for your honest opinion. I was hopeful from what I played in the beta. But seeing that nothing really changed... that's disappointing. I'll be playing it with some friends later so I'll have to see how that goes.
I love the game. To each their own.
Thank you. I appreciate your honesty. This is a rare and valuable thing. I watch and like all of your videos, finding your approach to games in general well thought out and informative. This review, and the footage provided have convinced me that I too will wait for my first play through. I enjoy these types of games and was looking forward to this one, so with a bit of sadness I will wait.
That's not rare for me I'm the most honest dude that exists also most content creator are hypocrites so this video is kind of cool to watch
Survival games should have certain quality of life things by default these days
easy inventory sorting/depositing
building from nearby containers
a decent build system that is easy to use (see Conan Exiles for a great tile-based style at minimum)
a reason to explore
a reason to progress
Nightingale looks awesome, as an Idea, my GF and I both got it, but we are going to wait awhile before we start it to let it get some patches first
@@Reezico the building system is nice at least, and yeah it went down when Funcom sold out to Tencent, they added a Battlepass, FOMO, and insanely priced microtransactions, mods are the only thing keeping it alive now, Funcom can't even release a functional patch for new content
All your concerns and tribulations are a sentiment I'd share so I appreciate you putting this out there to save us the time to find things out the hard way. There's too much out there to enjoy to be wasting time with everything that's released that needs more time to develop. Keep up the good work...
I did this for Cyberpunk - didn't touch the game until 1.5 update and my only regret is not waiting until phantom liberty to experience the full game as it should have been for the first time
Other folks have said it more eloquently than me, but I'm incredibly grateful that you were willing to record and post a review for a game you don't like. Especially if there was some anxiety around how it would be received both by your own subscribers, but people who enjoyed Nightingale despite all the flaws.
Knowing your channel is one where I can get an honest opinion about a game makes me much more comfortable hearing your opinions on something even if I don't agree with them every time. It's great to find out that you're someone who will be honest for good or ill with your viewers and I appreciate that immensely.
As a final note, I'm not sure what the conversations behind the scenes looked like with the developers, but in a time when it seems developers react to the idea their game is a mess by enforcement of review embargos and hoping they can trick enough people with flashy trailers. I'm happy to see a dev who's trying to do the right thing by both delaying their game to give themselves additional polish time, and allowing people to post their true thoughts.
Honestly I don't think early access games should be reviewed like regular games if at all especially this early
They LITERALLY gave me the game and asked me to review it lol
@@GunsNerdsandSteel I understand I was talking about in general you were giving the Game and you did your job nothing against you I love your contact Especially the 7 days to dieyour videos of help me out a lot with that game LOL
To be fair a lot of early access games are completely working and a seemingly full experience, where the coming updates feel more like just another expansion instead of core updates.
And getting something like combat wrong early access or not can be a pretty bad thing.
I think this is a great and honest review and suggests it's not a game for me, at least not now.
Free build systems like valheim make buildings more free and fun in my opinion too.
The game looks amazing but it seems like a lot of it isn't stuff I'd enjoy
@@swe113 fair point but I don't think early access and a 1.0 game should be reviewed the same no matter how much content early access is still a unfinished game and also I think we need to be more patient as a community and customer base early access isn't for everyone 🤷🏿♂️
Well maybe they shouldn't release it if it's not done.
A review like this coming from someone who has had Nightingale on their top anticipated games for years is... Harsh but fair.
Personally I am very fed up with the cycle of releasing half baked games in early access. With or without promises to make improvements
I tried the open beta test and i thought it was so bad that i removed it from my wishlist. I was looking forward to this game so much. I really hope they will update it alot and get it playable at some point.
This is exactly what happened to me. I was hardcore looking forward to this game. I hopped into beta as soon as I got all my info, etc... and was frustrated with the lack of everything. With all the survival games that ppl play and love to this date, and the preferences on QOL features alone - any new survival game that comes out, needs to be prepared to go up against that. I stopped playing beta and took it off my wishlist. Returning to watch ppl play now as it's released, it's sad to see that it still seems clunky, colors to me just blend into one neutral looking color and are blah, oddly. Nothing vibrant. I dunno... I have a large complain list sadly, lol.
I think developers relying too much on procedurally generated content is what's making all these games boring. No man's sky had some success with it even with a really rocky start and now everyone is trying to replicate it and failing. Starfield should've been a wakeup call that if you just plop down procedurally generated content as the main focus of a game, players will burn out on the copy pasted content all over the place. Inflexion should've focused on combat game play and hand crafted ebvironments while using AI to expedite a lot of the building instead of just having it do their job for them. I'm all for using innovative technologies in games but it's obviously lowering the quality of gaming as we move forward.
Possibly a new record for the most false/incorrect assinine take on the internet.@@Zakayel
I find your assessment fair. Watching other folks play it so far, fit your explanation. It needs a bit more polish but I know the folks who are playing it will enjoy it and hopefully the devs will listen to them, while polishing the game for improvements.
When did it become a survival game? It was supposed to be an instanced co-op thing.
It's working fine for me. Sure there's a few bugs and glitches, but nothing game breaking for me. I'm loving the story, mostly. Yeah, it's a bit long-winded but bearable. Some of the things you showed in your video, I haven't experienced. I also didn't play any of the tests. All in all, I'm enjoying t'm enjoying the game.
Sadly your observations are true. Coming out after games like Valheim are out in a good state and 2 other survival games that show how to do it better and in a more modern way, Nightingale really missed the mark.
Would have been an early access release half a decade ago, but the genre moved on.
Thank you for the honesty on this one. I felt a lot of that as I played it my first time during their last stress test. Especially the inventory system. I had fun with the stress test, but when it released on Steam I didn't feel the motivation to buy iand play it. Figured I'd let it be for a while in hopes that they eventually make some big QOL changes.
Hey man, everything you said was fair. I have been waiting for 2 years for this game. I also played the alphas and honestly, it is cool but it is definitely in Early Access. I will be playing it because I like the genre and i like the portal card system and contrary to you, i like having similar items of different qualities. Like you said, it means alot more inventory, but i like the fact that you can create things of different qualities based on what you have on hand. Do I feel this game compares to other Early Access games? No, look at Enshrouded. I think the game has potential so I am picking it up, somewhat like I did 10 years ago with some ugly looking, janky combat/movement game called 7 Days to Die. That one has turned out well. I am hoping Nightingale turns out half as good. Appreciate you transparency though and look forward to your next video!
Really appreciate the honest review - and not hiding it behind an absurdly excitable thumbnail too (like the handful of suggested videos off to the right). I've been hyped for this game since it was first previewed and have been patient so far, I can let it cook longer. You pointed out a lot of things that are red flags to me; hopefully in time, changes/fixes will come.
You may not want to think of yourself as an influencer, but your taste and opinions on survival games line up with mine and a lot of your viewers, so seeing you get early access to a game is exciting because it's kind of like indirectly getting it myself/ourselves. You ground through ark, icarus, palworld, modded and unmodded 7d2d, etc... you're used to working through a level of jank to find the fun in a game, so when you talk about feeling no excitement about jumping back into a game, it is very influential. I was going to stream it tonight going in blind, but I'm glad I gave in and watched this first - refunded before putting too many hours in and have enough time to change gears. Also, knowing that you are willing to give an honest non-positive review of a game instead of faking your enjoyment or ghosting us gives your opinion so much more credibility and influence even if it gets backlash from devs - so kudos to you for that.
Seriously! You are a great TH-camr, love your honesty and your tone you always have to new things!
Sounds like you just stopped playing before you got to magic, that has a big influence on combat. It seems like harder and different puzzles unlock at higher difficulty areas. I hope you give it a little longer next time you try it.
It's like 35 hours before you move out of the "caveman" age. Bad balance.
Thanks for your first impressions, Tem, very useful.
"You can only play a game for the first time once."
Thats me with Enshrouded right now. I bought it right on release but i want my first play through to be really loved, so im trying to wait for a sort of 1.1 patch if that makes sense.
Understand the point on this, however Enshrouded devs did block out some of the content from Early Access. So there will be new things to do at full release. :)
Yeah but in Enshroudeds case... it owns. That game is awesome unlike this pil of crap.
I recommend waiting. Even tho i loved it, it was missing some things, and i am sure it will be fantastic at 1.0.
@@malguskerensky not only some of the content. Most of it, at least regarding the map size. It´s currently 24x24 and will be 64x64. I also think Level 25 won´t be the end. It looks like we will have a good second first time with Enshrouded.
Just wait, man. I put in about 140hrs and just got board. Its not even a survival game, just an RPG with crafting/building, nothing more. Its quite easy and gets boaring pretty quick, for a game of this genre. I put in +400hrs on Valheim, the first year it released. I was just hooked for a while, but that game is in a class of its own.
Palworld and Enshrouded turned out to be a tough act for Nightingale to follow. Even if it was good.
Can you deconstruct a bench or a building piece that is already built? I saw that you can only deconstruct them before completing the build.
I really appreciate you making this video even though it's not your style. It's nice to get perspective on survival games especially with so many being released so close to one another.
Glad I saw this. I was close to buying it. I'm going to hold off or just move on to something else. Anyone know if that Lord of the Rings Moria game is any good?
Dude ! You're so right ! Everything you say was 100% accurate and true ! Thanks, you share my vision of this game. Except maybe for the satisfaction in combat, the axe is satisfying. It's the only weapon you really seem to hit something with.
Nice, I was on the fence waiting for release to get either this or Enshrouded. this and all the twitch streams to get the drops tells me more than enough. Much love dude.
100% Enshrouded is way more fun.
I played Nightingale for a couple of hours today, and it just felt clunky. It's absolutely gorgeous. I wanted to like it. But it just feels so clunky it breaks immersion. Especially the character movement and the fighting, and I felt like I spent most of my three hours going back-and-forth carrying resources to try to build my basic starter hut. And it was stuttering all over the place and super laggy because I guess their servers were busy. And then it crashed and I haven't been able to get back on because of network issues. But the whole time I was playing, trying to give it a fair shot, all I could I just kept thinking I just wanna go back and play more Enshrouded. Enshrouded is just more fun than this.
I KNEW IT! I knew everyone was gonna kiss up for the first week of insider access. Then suddenly, the truth will come out, after.
You knew the game wouldn't be finished in early access? congrats!
@@exaeon Im sry I hurt your feelings. No need to defend your game.
Havent even played it bruh, it's just a logic based response to someone who wants to appear as an internet crusader. "I KNEW THE GAME WAS SHIT, EVERYONE CHAMPION ME"@@IchbinX
Thanks for your honest opinion. I have been in doubt over getting this. I'm sure I will hop on it eventually, but your video made me skip it for now. Also I'm still all in for Enshrouded right now and I guess for many hours to come. Really loving that game.
Thanks for your content, great as always! :)
I was a tester too and have been expecting big backlash upon its release. What they promised, what they promoted, what they showed during "gameplay" videos set expectations that were simply not going to be met in the actual game. I agree entirely with everything you've touched on here and frankly you probably just saved a lot of your fans some buyer's regret.
Because to whatever extent games like Palworld and Enshrouded feel like games made by gamers for gamers, even in EA, Nightingale feels like it's creators just saw their first video game last week.
i just started content creation not too long ago and hope to be on your level one day. love the editing style and the whole story aspects you do. i know i dont have a fan base to stand on but a big issue i had... letting youtubers spam gameplay for the past week before release. made me not even want to play or make content. normally they tell everyone to hold back till the day of release. which imo thats fair game but the week of content before release. then finding out its an incomplete game and were at the mercy of a good server. thats a big big bummer for a lot of ppl especially new creators that wanted to cover it on release day. sorry for the rant i dont normally make negative comments like this.
As a rule, I don't buy Early Access. I'll wait for the release. Saying that, It looks beautiful.
You can tell nobody knows how to fish when you see them try to fish in Nightingale, you need to keep your tension tight, which means you're not supposed to aim your rod directly at the fish. But the opposite direction from it. 😂😂
Thanks, Tem. This was exactly the review I needed for this game. I've been looking forward to Nightingale since they first announce it, and am very disappointed that I can't afford it right now. I'll be glad to see some improvements by the time I can buy it. It's unfortunate that it isn't quite living up to the hype, but it's good to know the devs are listening to feedback.
Im glad before I got home from work that I watched your video.. Im a big fan of your content, and I think 6+ hours of play time is enough to give an accurate review of a game. Im gonna wait on this one.. it just stinks waiting so long for something you think is gonna be the next big survival game, only to have it fall short.. thanks Tem!
That's two reviews that say that. I am going to wait.
I think Enshrouded spoiled me in terms of how combat should look like, even if it's just a single-button basic attack type of moveset. Just looking at how janky this looks here it's a hard pass for me. Combat in this game looks like woodcutting does in RAFT. Thank you for saving me the effort on refunding it.
"it's not ready" is a thing people will always say about an early access. I for one think that nightingale is pretty darn good for a game coming out with unreal engine 5 and loads of very small bugs like umbrella clipping and incorrect animations turning on and off in third person for consumables. Third person btw is experimental. The thumbnail looks pretty negative in my eyes, maybe change it to "not ready but..." or something. It's dumb to say "it isn't ready" when it's "EARLY ACCESS" I swear the humans' brains have rot within their skulls...
Nah. The game sucks. How many items and augmentations have stock/nonexistent icons? Bad..
Thank goodness! I didn't care for it based on the early release play of other youtubers, and when I saw this video notification from your channel, I thought you were going to do a play through.
That's exactly the way I felt about those issues. It's disappointing. I've been waiting years for this, only to see them fall on their face, at this point.
Eh... online server when in single player? Yeah. Passing on this.
What's wrong with you guys.....
Try to think about it, it's good for the players....
I have spent the day in-game now and I have NO IDEA what planet this guy is from. Nothing he is bitching about is present. When I hit someone with a stone axe, the sheer weight of the impact is translated to the mob being struck by actual weight. Not just "24 HP damage" but he falls on one knee and is noticeably injured and stunned by the hit. The building is a snap with a great central repository system. And the graphs are absolutely madness. I've taken dozens of screenshots so far just because of how beautiful and truly breathtaking they are. Marking this channel as "whiney douchebag".
wow you're so cool dude. Instead of 'marking the channel' why not just close the internet and go play this shambles of a game.
My experience with the game has been more similar to yours. I don't think he's being a "whiney douchebag" though. From watching his gameplay, to me it looks like his game is having some performance and stability issues. Games in early access can perform wildly different for different people until the game gets stabilized and polished.
I also noticed he seemed to totally miss some mechanics and functionality within the game. And in his defense, the game's menus can be pretty clunky and cluttered, so it's not surprising.
What I do think this shows is that the devs are going to be fighting an up hill battle with success if they don't streamline some things in the game. Right or wrong, a game on Steam has about two hours to hook someone, since most people aren't going to be willing to give it 6 hours(and exit the refund window), like he did in each of his attempts.
This video does not reflect my personal experience with the game at all, but I do believe it genuinely reflects his.
dude game is trash I LOVED IT till i realized the maps are small and copy paste with 3 small maps not 2000 like they said
Thank you for the review! I'm still going to pick it up but you gave me some good information on what I might be walking into. Hopefully the devs use this early access to listen to player feedback and affect meaningful changes to the game.
5:23 What even is going on in this fishing segment? 😂
Awesome video, and your community seems awesome as well! Bit new here, refreshing to see some real coverage!
i do wish more games had an option for the ghost structure build design, its so much better for planning your build
Thanks Tem! I was wondering if this game was coming to the channel, and it's good to know now that it's not. I was totally on board to get this game asap because so much of it looked so good. I absolutely love the aesthetic, but aesthetic cannot make up for boring gameplay. I'm going to use this video as a warning and wait until I watch some more gameplay before deciding if I buy. Thanks again.
I appreciate your honest review. Hopefully I won't come to quickly share your opinion, but so far I'm really enjoying the game. I do have some concerns, but I'm trying to stay positive while I learn the ropes here in the early stages.
I appreciate your honest opinion and willingness to not merely jump on the latest sponsored game of the day. This entire video, to me, is mainly building trust in your quality requirements. It speaks toward your integrity and I respect that, particularly since all the other channels are merely espousing this games qualities. I respect your viewpoint all the more for this video.
Just like you Tem had this game on my wishlist/radar since forever ago. Bought it for me and friend right when it was available. So first we didn’t know that we had to get through the tutorial to meet up. Ok no big deal but that third and final portal you have to go through glitched for my friend. So she beat the 2/3 waves of monsters waited and waited and waited and waited for it to open. NOTHING HAPPENED !!! Restart same thing. She tried 4 times on the same character nothing. She had to delete the first character and start all over again. And is anyone else having a problem splitting stacks? Not going into the fire or anything I mean going from your inventory to storage. I CAN’T SPLIT. Keep up the great work brother. Looking forward to your next idea for 7d2d. Let’s hope Derelict will be better than this release.
I appreciate your honesty and candor, and I hope the dev team does too.
Like most people here, I appreciate the honesty. There's nothing wrong with straightforward critique of a game. You aren't bashing it or trying to push your opinion, you're just saying what you think without nit picking everything to justify your stance. I still plan to try playing it with my friends, as we've been looking forward to the whole Victorian feel combined with some magic. we'll see how it goes. I'm grateful for the warning on the parts that are likely to irritate me. Much better to know that in advance than get frustrated by the surprise.
ok, so the irony of this is that I tried to play it, and can't because I'm unable to progress beyond the tutorial due to an issue encountered by some people that they do not know the reason for. lol
promise that this game gave in the trailers was downright mesmerizing, the people who were responsible for their direction, lighting, hats off to them, brilliant work. But then came the alpha test, and.... I can't remember the last time I was so disappointed with a game. Not because it was so bad, but because it was so perfectly bland, there was absolutely nothing left of the atmosphere of the trailers, the art director instead of being tempted by stylization decided to go for semirealism, which already looks...yes, perfectly bland, and in a year or two it will only be worse, on top of that the introduction to the game world is non existt. World building with walls of text worked in the 80s, not today. Worst of all, I completely fail to see how the developers were going to fix all this.
I played a bunch during the Alpha tests as well.. and I pretty much agree with you on everything you said here.
Its not negative its just realistic, and we like to hear your opinion for open world survival
Yeh, except for the whole being correct and stating facts thing. As long as you don't mind those things missing and are ok with an agenda, this is decent.
good video and good content. You were fair and told the devs what you found wrong. I like your playstyle and the stories you often manage to tell. This game is currently missing your mark and I way prefer you tell us that. Way better than avoiding your truth. Carry on making the stuff you like and taking us along for the journey.
This was my worry after watching the alfa testing videos that where out there. Was so hoping this would be good, because i love the idea of finding cards and navigating a rich and interesting world.
Do you think the games success will change your appraisal?
I remember watching a guy having a lot of fun playing palworld, and then watching your video and you saying it was kinda meh, but then you did a series (which I enjoyed)
Although this one seems way more critical than your palworld first look
Great review. I said to myself after enshrouded, I will no longer buy a game until 1.0 release, it’s going to be hard to stick to that but I must!
I agree with your take if you're looking for a new game to play and sink your time into, then Nightingale isn't for you. However, if you enjoy taking part in the processing of being part of a new game that is coming to make and will one day mature into something unique and very enjoyable, this is probably a very fine place to start.
Thank you soooo much, I really didn't have money to throw down on this game with rent right around the corner, also I don't see this as a negative or hateful review this was absolutely perfect and what I needed to know about Nightingale right now, still interested in playing it but I do want to wait a few a few months, thanks to your review!!! (Just introduced my new roommate to 7 days to die and he's already 35 hours invested, despite not being a gamer)
Heck! Thanks for being honest, I was going to buy it but I'll wait until they get it together more. Also, when will we see some more Icarus?? Love your videos! ❤
Thanks. I hope u give us feedback if this game does a 360?
That is unfortunate, I too have been looking forward to this. Hope it improves, and thanks for saving me $30!!
This year, i was excited for 3 games. Enshrouded is so much fun! Nightingale seems sadly blah. So im hoping for avowed to be a knock out success
I have a feeling this is a slow burn game but good overtime. It may not be for everyone but it has its own charm….
I just write a steam review on this game before watching this video. And I expressed 90% of the same things. Thank you for the honesty! I even said “this game needs more time to cook” in my review 😂
I wish I would have watched this yesterday! I didn't really want to play this but also wanted something new to play. It's downloaded so we'll see how it goes today. What else is good right now to play?
I really appreciate you showing me all this ....the Forrest building mechanic I hate, the combat looks really jankey I agree, Thank you for the full breakdown, this is why I watch your channel.
Thank you for the honest review, too many say what a great game it is. I played for 15 minutes and took my refund. Thanks again for your honesty, this could become a great game!!
I have to agree with pretty much everything he said. I bought this to play with a friend and I was over it after a few hours. Couldn't figure out how to make better gear for a while, building was mostly awful, inventory management.....it's hard to even sort stuff....the dungeons and puzzles seem very barebones....etc.
Not ready?
At least it's out of ALLLLPHA.
I've played for many hours already, and I'm enjoying so far. When I bought the game in early access, that's exactly what I was expecting. They need to polish if they want this game not to flop, but as an early access game it's honest.
Thank you for that video. This plus seeing the negative reviews that mention things like gamecrashes, disconnects and bad performance made me say no, i will wait with buying.
Your honest review for the betterment of Nightingale is refreshing and appreciative! While some might say it's negative, it's constructive which dev teams will come to realize is helpful instead of constant praises. I agree that early access for this one can only make it better. I switched off the game after about 1.5-2 hours into the stress test because it had me wanting more. This was kind of disappointing as Nightingale was one of the top 3 survival games on my 2024 Wishlist. I hope time and attention to feedback will bring it to all its potential!
I should have waited for your video. I just bought it 10 mins ago.
Steam? Can request for refund if you haven't played it for 2 hours.
@@eightchickens Eh. For $26 I'll see if I like it or wait until it gets better.
its not that bad if you enjoy simple things for firts day. Ofc if you want all at ones its aproblem. Game is not that bad just when you play alot other better you notice ishues.
I personally loved this video, I usually never comment on TH-cam but it gave some good insight. I bought the game never the less in hopes that the development goes in a positive direction in the months and years to come.
Honestly I can understand the frustration because currently the game really does feel kind of empty and the combat is not satisfying there is no real indication when you are hit and minor things like that, but I personally am enjoying the game and there is potential for the future but that all depends on the devs.
Thanks for the honest opinion Tem, been following the channel since undead legacy.
i like the fact you spoke your mind and not just go with the normal its a great game and then never play it again like soooo many others do