Van Canto: CO-REACTION & ANALYSIS with Kardavox Academy & The Charismatic Voice "Rebellion"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- It's time to listen to MANY metal voices join together, and what better way to analyze all of them than to invite the master of grunts and gurgles (Mark, from Kardavox Academy) to join?
Join professional opera singer Elizabeth Zharoff and metalhead/pro vocal coach Mark Garrett, as they both listen to Van Canto for the first time (featuring Grave Digger!), in their music video "Rebellion."
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Performed by Van Canto & Chris Boltendahl - Words and Music by Chris Boltendahl, Uwe Lulis, Thomas Göttlich
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Elizabeth Zharoff is an international opera singer and voice coach, with 3 degrees in voice, opera, and music production. She's performed in 18 languages throughout major venues in Europe, America, and Asia. Currently based somewhere between Los Angeles and Tucson, Arizona, Elizabeth spends her days researching voice, singing, teaching, writing music, and recording TONS. She also plays Diablo and Dungeons & Dragons.
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OMG. What have we done :-D
We have now been professionally analyzed - and are actually proud of it ;-)
We will ping you with some more up-to-date work of Van Canto in 2021 - stay safe and thank you!
Cool to see you guys here. You have every right to be proud of your work, keep it up!
Oh Mein Goth... can't wait to see news from you ^^
Glad to see this reached you guys! Looking forward to hearing what you have coming up!!
Ooh, new music tease?
For anyone wondering, Van Canto is pronounced as "badaboom"
Van Canto themselves said, that they tried a Beatboxer, but they couldn't keep up with the songs. The Beatboxers would run out of Breath throughout the songs.
And - when they started - they were not sure how metal-heads accept acapella and they didnnot wanted to stretch their luck 😂
first time I heard them I also thought it was a bit sad it wasn't full acapella because of the drums... and I'm glad she also mentioned that too. I understand it is almost impossible for a beatboxer to perform a metal drummer... but... what about 2 beatboxers playing together? I always thought that might be an interesting solution for it :)
Ha! My main problem currently with beatboxing (I'm learning!) is taking-in too much air. #curse of the opera singer lungs.
The story I heard from an interview with the band (which may have been an exaggeration) was that they tried to have vocal "drummers" but they kept passing out before making it to the chorus.
@@TheCharismaticVoice pro tipp, start smoking it will deal with the lungs :D
Hyped! Elizabeth + Mark = Epic collab. Your expression in the thumbnail says it all 😆
Yeah, great collab mix... would love them to feature some of their individual music on each others channels... love them both
The Video was a creative idea, they asked their fans to film themself and send it to them! And as head of the official fanclub, rakka-takka e.V., I really recommend to react on their original songs PLEASE!!!
As a non-head, non-member of the official club, I second that. The band has Awesome original songs.
Thanks for the recommendation - we'll definitely be keeping an eye on their upcoming releases.
@@TheCharismaticVoice this very cool release just came out ... and its a kinda live video, so you will be able to see much clearer what's actually going on. Furthermore, they really developed their "guitar" techniques since that first albums :)
Video: th-cam.com/video/knuowEJO9YA/w-d-xo.html
Cannot believe that my favourite metal vocal coach teamed up with my favourite non-metal vocal coach. What are the chances? Awesome, please do more metal content! :)
Yo, thanks for the kind words! It was tons of fun and I'll tell yah, I even learned some tidbits from Elizabeth I didn't know before! So it was a net positive!
@@KardavoxAcademy Mark's awesome. I've learned lots from him already, and would definitely enjoy doing more collabs!!
A collab with my 2 favourite vocal analyzers?! Yes please!
best crossover
Hoping for more!
Ah you two NEED to do like a more heavy metal song. Mark could give so many good pointers and how to's.
Seen Van Canto performing live twice, Can confirm they do do the "guitar" solos with their voices
Regarding the question, why they decided to use drummer. This is from FAQ on their website:
"Why do you use drums, an a-capella-band usually doesn’t have a drummer?
Well, we tried some guys imitating a double-bassdrum only with their voices, but they all collapsed after 2 minutes of “Lifetime”."
😂
But anyway, Van Canto is awesome! I like their original songs more than covers. I really love their album Voices of Fire, and it's even accompanied by a fantasy book!
And seeing this guys live was one of the best live experiences! They are even better live than in studio. 😍
This is hilarious background info. Thanks! As someone learning to beatbox - I can see why it would be quite difficult.
@@TheCharismaticVoice The double bass on "If I Die In Battle" would put a beatboxer in the morgue
That's not true their covers a fire
There is also a live version of this song with Grave Digger, Van Canto and Hansi Kürsch.
I'm very interested in watching that just for funsies.
Yeah the Grave Digger original is actually really good (as well as other songs of theirs), so I definitely recommend to check that out. The Grave Digger singer also has a very unique voice which would be interesting to analyze I think.
OMG, I love mark, I so glad to see my two fave voice professionals colabing
The memes for this band over the years, man. "One does not simply riddely diddely into Mordor." "Hey, none of us can play instruments, but we already spent the money.......I can play drums........Ok, anybody on guitars?...........Hey, I got an idea......." People either love or hate Van Canto lol Also, stereotypical Devin Townsend plug.
"One does not simply riddely diddely into Mordor" is now one of the best quotes ever.
@@TheCharismaticVoice alas I cannot take credit for it, as it comes from the comment section of their cover of metallica's Battery.
@@affectingmandela9839 Theres even a homepage, featuring Van Canto and.... Ned Flanders....
diddlyriddly.ytmnd.com/
@@affectingmandela9839 The song it is from is Wishmaster. Which is a Nightwish cover. That bit always cracks me up.
"Last night of the Kings" is a song by Van Canto without drums but its more like a metal ballad, it was the very first song i heard from them and i was instant a fan :-)
Another song by them that i really LOVE is "Pathfinder".
Last night of the kings is on my favourite songs, would love to see it reviewed aswell
so for the guitar solo, its him singing, with just a bit of "normal" vocal distortion, but the voice is run through a guitar distortion effect, thats why it sounds so close to an actual guitar. but it is digitally altered to get that sound
I did not expect to see Van Canto here, this is really awesome!
Here are a few recommendations:
For something very energetic with an epic build up: If I Die in Battle
For some heavy Rakkatakka \m/: My Voice
For some more Riddly Diddly and more Vocals by Inga: Wishmaster (Nightwish Cover)
For more "instrumental" parts: Master of Puppets (Metallica Cover)
Fun fact about the singers in this group, all of the vocalists-except for Ike on the bass-were solo vocalists in various bands before they formed Van Canto.
Please do react to more Van Canto! I recommend Lost Forever, If I Die in Battle, Wishmaster, Badaboom, and Primo Victoria.
Great to see you reacting to this!
Grave Digger is one of those underrated German power metal bands from the 80's. (In my personal opinion at least. I love them, but can see why Chris' voice may not be for everyone.:))
Van Canto is also one of those hidden gems, which I personally didn't discover until just a few years ago. Lots of interesting stuff going on, although they aren't technically all acapella.
All that said, this isn't exactly the best song to showcase the latter of them (though it's one of Grave Digger's most famous). Hope you take some time to check out a few more songs with Van Canto after listening to this one! :)
Yes, I agree. As a GD fan myself, going back to 2005 or so, Chris's voice is a bit hard to get used to. However, GD's music is quite good.
Now this is a colab I can’t wait to see!
I've been watching a bunch of your (Elizabeth) Reaction & analysis videos from over the years and I've got to say you're appearing way more confident and comfortable cracking jokes and letting more personality come through (not that you weren't before, but definitely noticeable to me now). It's nice to see! And this collab is amazing \m/
I love that ddue. perfect co-host to have.
Yeah. Mark is awesome. We'll definitely do more.
AS always top-notch reaction / instruction. You two have good chemistry-- riffing off each other was fun to watch.
I'm off to check out more Van Canto.
Thanks! Stay safe!
YOU ACTUALLY DID IT! I love this band, so happy to see ppl reacting to them!
Edit: please collab with Kardavox again! This was so much fun to listen to 🤘
Thank you! It was fun to do as well. :-D
I’m a new fan of Charismatic Voice, and a long time fan of Van Canto... this video just made my day. Thank you so much Elizabeth! I loved this!
I just adore the expressiveness of your face. You radiate happiness and general positive vibes. Its great to watch!
two of my favorite channels combine! i want to see you guys colab more in the future, this would be amazing!
Wow, thanks!
These guys have turned into an art form something all metal-heads do when describing a track to a friend.
DOMs and DANs = a palm-muted chord
DAAAN = open chord.
WOOAH = a volume-swell after hitting a chord or note.
You can explain most Metallica with DOMs and DANs
So happy you both enjoyed that Band. Since you mentioned behind the scenes work, it just so happens that such footage exists for Van Canto. One example would be "Van Canto - 4 Lies About Metal" rather short and not the best quality, but worth a look i think.
You two make a great Duo for the Metal Music. Thank you so much for this collab, would love to see you two do this again!
YES!!!! You 2 should do more collabs. Love this! 😁💯💯💯💯
Was he your friend you were talking about? As referring to? Lol...for metal voice (s), haha. If so this was awesome. 😁
Hi Elizabeth, you're on the cusp of reaching 150K Subscribers! I Loved this performance and your collaboration w/ Mark on this CO-REACTION & ANALYSIS! This is my 1st time listening to this Metal Band (featuring Grave Digger). This Metal A cappella song wasn't too overpowering so it was easy on the ears! This was an Amazing performance from the Band(s)!!! Thank You, Elizabeth and Mark, for another Outstanding Premiere!!! Hopefully, there will be many more collaborations in the future!!! :-)
Funfact: They made a really good version of "bards song" and "fear of the dark" too!
As a enjoyer of the work from Elizabeth and a student of Mark's, YES! Yall are both awesome, keep up the great work.
It was interesting just seeing you guys both totally nerd out about vocal techniques. I'm here for it.
I love Van Canto such a different and cool concept.
YES YES YES - Last week I thought about suggesting to chat up Mark for more in-depth screaming knowledge and now he's here. Do all the metal videos together and I'll never leave! This is the perfect combination omgomgomg
For the pronunciation of Van Canto, imagine how a German would say the name (the band is German, after all), but in this case, the V is still a V [v] sound, not an F [f]. So the pronunciation would turn out as “vahn cahnto.” The current lineup for the band are two lead vocals, high guitar, low guitar, two basses, and drums. In this Rebellion video, the lineup consisted of two lead singers (male and female), high guitar, low guitar, bass, and drums. As a few people have already said, they did try using a beat boxer, but the people they auditioned didn’t have the stamina necessary for metal drumming, which demands a lot more than what beat boxers may normally do in an a cappella group.
I think their song “Lost Forever” is a better representation of the Van Canto sound, but I’m glad you gave them a listen nonetheless. I do recommend reacting to “Lost Forever” as well. They also have a GREAT cover of Metallica’s “Master of Puppets,” but there is no music video nor a good live video (bad sound mixing) for that song. The guys singing the guitar parts add a bit of grit to their sound (one of the band members describes it as a “crunch”) to better mimic the distortion of a guitar. The guy who sings the lower guitar part also sings the guitar solos, and he uses electronic distortion during those solos.
They also have a great cover of “The Final Countdown,” come to think of it. I think you’d really enjoy it.
Thank you, Kekoapono. This post is a treasure trove of information for me, for future Van Canto reactions.
@@TheCharismaticVoice Yes, Lost Forever would be my recommendation as well. Rebellion is a nice tune and great cover but not representative. As you noticed in the reaction it sounded like it Power Metal coming up but then it wasn't exactly Power Metal. That's because their originals usually are Power Metal but this cover is not. So for full display of their vocal abilities checkout an original. Also, a few years ago their male lead singer quit and the new one has a pretty different voice. Which I just can't get into, unfortunately. So I recommend the older stuff generally, ie. older then the last album. :)
They chose real drums for two reasons:
1. There hardly any beatboxer who has enough wind to do a full metal gig (40+ minutes).
2. They new a pretty damn good drummer who was interested in joining.
WHAT?! two of my favorite music youtubers joining forces? This brought a lot of joy to my otherwise shitty day
Finally! I've requested Van Canto on a half a dozen different vocal channels and finally someone did it! More!
I luv luv luv the rapport that you and Mark have in this reaction. I laughed most of the way through, not at you but with you. AMAZING. And bring on the swords.
I'll have to come equipped next time!
Yes! I was going to suggest you react to them, was so happy to see you already did!
God i love Van Canto, first saw them life on a small open air 5 minutes away from my home town, around 800 people back than in... wow... 2008...
I couldn't stop laughing when they got on stage, said "Instrument Check" und just "rakataka" in the mics XD
was it Dong Open air or Rage against Racism at the "Mühle"? :D
@@Hipp0campus_1 Summers End Open Air, JUZ Andernach ;P
Van Canto, another one of my favorite bands. I first saw them on a Blind Guardian show and for their first song I just didn't notice that there were no instruments on stage other than drums.
There's also a whole Workshop series on their YT channel explaining how they create their sound.
It's 11 years old and they greatly improved since then. One of my favorite songs is "Neuer Wind", the first and so far only song they did in german.
th-cam.com/video/CYg0uDhAj50/w-d-xo.html
"kamelot liar liar ft. alissa" -i believe that it's one of the best kamelot songs with great vocal technique.
Could you make video for this song please?
YES!!! Shell be enjoying this ^^ Especially after Jinjer
Personally, I like Memento Mori more, but Liar Liar is a great song and I would highly recommend it.
Yes please. This would be nice!
My favorite Kamelot song has to be The Great Pandemonium
Oh my gawd, my two favorite analyzers!! So pumped when I saw the thumb nail with both of you! Awesome! Thank you so much!!
So your now the largest reaction channel I've found reacting to Van Canto, congratulations!
I read a bit a few years ago saying they use a drum kit because they couldn't find anyone who could sing extended kick blast parts for a full song without passing put before the end.
As for the "guitar" solo, I'm absolutely not a singer so it was probably a terrible way of doing it but the closest I've managed to approximate while driving and listening was sort of humming with a weird bit of distortion thrown in, but they show the singer doing it in one of the metallica cover videos they did
Hell Yes! I suggested this a while back, glad to see it got analyzed!
I'm months late, so someone has probably said this already, but they do have behind the scenes videos!! Definitely worth the watch!
Oh dear, they have so many excellent songs in their library, both covers and originals. I really hope we can do one more since this one is really not what shows their potential.
Great input and reactions from BOTH of you. Thank you for Sharing this with us.
I've seen a few other crowd-sourced music videos like this, that are just montages of clips sent by fans. They're great, I love seeing people just goofing off having a good time. Also, I'm pretty sure that girl with the black vest and tie was in another one that I saw.
What is this two of my favorite reactors reacting to my second favorite song from my favorite metal band? Well, don't mind if I do but I'll watch this video at least 3 times.
Woohoo!
Behind the Scenes: There is a video documentary by the "Guitarguy" of Van Canto, Stefan Schmitt, where he shows, how a Van Canto Song is made.
Also, for the Live experience: To sing a metal song from Wacken
@The Charismatic Voice here you can find this documentary: vancanto.de/en/media/videos/ and click on the Button "WORKSHOP"
@@andreasgoggerle2553 Thx for the Backup here!
This is absolutely amazing, two of my absolute favorite youtube creators in the same video! Please make this a thing, two world united with you guys. You work really well toghether, and this can be an awesome segment to both of your channels!
I'm so stoked that you guys found each other on youtube, please keep this going!🙂
Best regards from sweden 🤗
I love this! Karavox is one of the 3 reaction channels I follow along with yours, and it's so nice to see you two doing a collab!
I haven't done this before, so I hope you still consider recommendations from your comments....But every time I have commented you have read it so I hope you read this!! I would really like to hear what you think of the vocals for Dissona. Unfortunately, they are a very small prog metal band and don't have many videos up. The one I personally think (based on your past videos) you would get a lot to talk about in vocally and compositionally is Dissona - Another Sky (Guitar Playthrough), but the video itself is only of the guitarist. Another song that is a full band playthrough and shows some nice profile shots of the singer is Dissona - Lysis (Full Band Playthrough), but he showcases less of his range and dexterity there.
Thanks!
The two of you TOGETHER!!!!!! Great idea 💡👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks for reacting to Van Canto, and the technique discussions, you and Mark worked pretty well together :) Rebellion is a very fun song, but there are others that show off what they can do a lot better, especially Inga Scharf, their female singer:-
Wishmaster (Nightwish)
- there's a live version of this at Wacken with Tarja, though the sound quality isn't great
Master of Puppets (Metallica)
Fear of the Dark (Iron Maiden)
Speed of Light (their own song)
Discussing the Burp topic:
People that lost their larynx due to a sickness (eg cancer) can learn, how to talk through burping...
That technique exists and is used....
!!!!!!!! Further proof that I must do a deep-dive into the mechanics of burping for the channel.
@@TheCharismaticVoice You definately should ^^
Thanks for featuring this band to react to. I've been waiting quite a while time for someone to provide some solid insights, and I really appreciate it. Each one is a great vocalist on their own and while some can't get get the idea of heavy a capella, I was pretty impressed. I believe the solo was done by plugging a microphone into a mixer before plugging into to a guitar amp and having Stef sing the notes.
I'm hoping this won't be your last reaction to this band, the female vocalist is quite impressive. Their covers of "Wishmaster" or "Fear of the Dark" definitely give their vocalists a bit more time to shine. I did manage to find a decent "Fear of the Dark" rendition live.
The guitar sound is produced through singing amplified through a guitar-amp with distortion - whole 'secret' :) and Van Canto explain it themselves in one of their 'how to sing Metal A Capella' - Videos (have a look, not hard to find)!
this two and this reaction is pure gold between "metal-kind of music" and singing. love it
you guys both have great insight and the videos with you two are refreshing
gravedigger had a liveshow performing rebellion with van canto and hansi kürsch^^
btw, there has to be a video on youtube where it is shown how he does the guitarsounds
Thanks for listening to Van Canto. If you want to have a Workshop...ok...an Workshop for their early Songs, Stef did one and it is on TH-cam.
Search for "Van Canto Workshop" if you like to learn more ;)
The higher note at the end actually reminds me of Matt Barlow from his Iced Earth Days.....what a voice he had, from the deepest, menacing growls to the highest screams!
Elizabeth, I love that toy have reacted to Van Canto! So interesting! So fun!
Considering your Nightwish passion I'm surprised you didn't choose Wishmaster! My intro to Van Canto was through their Metallica covers, Master of Puppets and Battery which are both phenomenal.
Many Nat 20's to you!
I was just eyeing Wishmaster as a possible follow-up ... ;-)
@@TheCharismaticVoice Van Canto says: DoDoDoDoDoDoDoDo! 😁
Oh no.. you picked Rebellion.....
One of their covers, but a pretty pretty old song. I like it, but its not as fast or voicely mature as some of their other songs.
For Van Cantos own content i suggest the following songs:
If i die in battle, Bards Call or Firevows...
And for Covers: Fear of the Dark, The Bard Song or Wishmaster ^^
yep .. you´re right. Sadly it´s one of their "weakest" songs. I have to tell the guys anyhow that their song was choosen to react on. (Basti was actually the drummer of one of my bands in the 2000s) :-D
@@Strubbelvader Pls do ;)
Kings of Metal would have been another good choice. The lead singer is impressive on that one.
@@luisnunes2010 Yeah, Sly does an awesome job!
Agree. Their version of Wishmaster is better than original (for me).
I totally appreciated this video! Thank you so very much for doing it, not only because it’s two bands from germany and I’m German too. It was particularly interesting what the two of you listened out of it. Oh, and it made my sign up for Marc‘s channel as well. So there you have it. 😅
Yes... they are acapella+ drums... buuuuuut!!!! They also have full acapella Songs. Like " last night of the kings" "heading home " "bard song"
Delighted that you got to Van Canto. I'd like to recommend Lost Forever by them as well.
Lost Horizon - Highlander. Daniel Heiman is one of the greatest power metal vocalists. :)
Seconded
Hey all! Having so much fun in the premier! This Sunday Elizabeth will pop on over to my channel for a listen to IGORR - IeuD. It was super weird, and super fun! Don't miss it!
So weird to see those guys on your channel. I've drank some beers with them on festivals in germany before they even released their first album.
I sooo love your enthusiasm for music. It is just as refreshing as the music you react to.
Having seen Van Canto live I was extremely amazed how great they sound live. I totally expected the whole thing to be lackluster as hell and that there was a huge amount of post production needed to make the guitars sound so lifelike. But they 100% crushed it and delivered a really amazing show.
You really should react to Scar Symmetry with Christian Alvestam as a vocalist. Songs like "Morphogenesis", "The illusionist" or " Deux ex Mechina"
I definitely asked for the illusionist!
Nice...I actually played in one band with the the Van Canto lead singer, from 2002 to 2005...Long time ago...
Now I´m 41, only playing on an E-Drum Kit in my basement...was a great time 20 years ago...
The guitar solos are one of backing singers using a guitar distortion pedal hooked up to their mic.
Oh YES BOY, Van Canto, such an amazing group!
That guy doing the higher notes towards the end has a "normal" metal band named Heavatar where he's the main vocalist
Whenever you want to do a collaboration again, it was awesome for me :)
Thanks!
The drummer is also lead singer in a band called *In Legend* - who play metal based purely on drums, bass and piano (no guitars!). Also highly recommended (check out their songs *Pandemonium* or *Heya* )
YES!!!! I suggested Mark on the Ne Obliviscaris video, very happy to see this happening.
Enjoyed the collab thanks guys!
I want more collabs!!! So grateful for having my favorite vocal coaches in one video haha
Heck yes! What a blast! Thanks again! :D
Van Canto songs to react to:
1 to 10
To sing a metal song
Speed of light
Last night of the kings
Wishmaster ft Tarja Turunen(nightwish cover)
That is quite a good list.
For me there are a few more standouts:
- The Mission (that hook/transition!)
- If I die in battle (this is why there is no beatbox)
- Fear of the Dark (great cover and everyone gets plenty to do/sing)
Also Lost Forever! Great bass intro, and great breakdown!
Bed of Nails is kinda cool, too :D
Loved the music. Loved the video. Only superseded by the expert comments. Thanks guys.
Very funny reaction and review of you both. I enjoyed it a lot !
I highly recommend to have a listen to 'Last Night of the Kings' of them.
It was my introduction to them many years ago and is i.m.h.o. one of their most awesome songs so far and I miss Sly's voice in the band so much.
Happened to stumble upon those. Surely this has to be a series by now? It's great.
So happy you did a Van Canto review. Good co host as well.
The reason they have a drummer rather than a beatboxer was because a lot of metal songs require very fast drums that go on for a long time. They tried different beatboxers when starting the band but people would pass out during try-outs. So they went for a real drummer instead.
I'm subscribed to both channels. I really enjoyed this dual reaction setup for metal music.
So cool to see you react to, and analyze, VC! ^^ also gotta say I prefer your solo videos, it feels like it's too easy for two analysts to interrupt eachother and derail eachother's train of thought. x) You both are cool though, for sure!
Van Canto - Lost Forever , official video. You'll get to see who does what and this song is an original.
21:26 They actually have a video detailing how they create their songs and how everything is layered. I think, them being so unique, they are showing other people how to start something similar.
This the first part here? th-cam.com/video/CYg0uDhAj50/w-d-xo.html
@@Taran858 Yup.
Wow! What a crossover!... Opera and screaming... 🤘🏻
Yes! Was really hoping you would look at this Band.
End of Heartache by Killswitch Engage would also be a great piece to look at.
I'm surprised you haven't done a King Diamond video yet! You need to check him out, his voice is out of this world and band and is tight! Welcome home or Sleepless nights live from Fillmore!
I recommend listening to "The Bardcall", "Badaboom", "Wishmaster", and "the Bard Song", also by Van Canto. I really like them, and those would be some fun vocal analysis, especially for some of their more varied techniques and hearing them clearer. Loved the reaction, subscribed.
my two favorite vocal coaches in one video?? ;-; I cry, I love this
That's so sweet of you! Thanks so much, jawbone report!