Joe's a hip-hop prophet, ong. Maaan the fact that kendrick even used "Toosie Slide" in the second diss makes this even crazier. I can see how sometimes Joe's attitude may turn people away and make them disagree with him, but after everything that happened between Kendrick and Drake, people better start giving this man his flowers. No one knows this hip-hop shit like this true Emcee and former artist.
“It’s just gon resurface” we’re all going back traveling in portals to look at things with a different lens . Resurfacing clips from the past and connecting them to recent events .
@@untuchablemizz1 Family Ties: smoking on your top 5s, dont you address me unless its with 4 letters i thought youd known better, soon as i press that button better get right like the ambulance comin, when i come im killing everybody thats outside, one daughter but they all my sons in this b-- Like That: my temperament bipolar i choose violence, its time for him to prove that hes a problem, m-eff the big 3 it's just big me these two records were the clear precursor for the smoke show we just watched. if Cole did not "get right" im sure it would have been a double homicide
@@AllTheArtsy see i agree but i also understand its debatable with the cole take. I think it could go either way.. bar for bar would go to cole... but angles and shock value would go to kendrick... the only way to actually know who would win is to see them go back and forth forreal
It was so obvious at the time family ties was a direct shot at drake. Keem said #2 dm’ing my bitch that’s cool I don’t ask why. It could only be one man. And then they dropped the Hillbillies and that was a song clowning drake
He listen to 2Pac said “before I got to war, you told me to get my money right”, and Kendrick took shots first, when he started PGLang and positioned himself where he controls his music and money THEN he went to full on war. Plus he has more disses in the tuck, so he can war for as long as drake wants to.
Y’all missed when Kendrick said “Kanye may of changed his life, but me, I’m still an old school Gemini” - that’s a shot at Drake. Like, Ye found God but Kdot will murder
point blank. and it's a double-entandre because when So Far Gone came to streaming, Drake did a whole diatribe on IG and mentioned how Kanye contributed to his career.
I swear nobody else seemed to pick up on that. "Who went platinum? I call him a visitor?" "F that single, f that album burn that hardrive." It was soooo obvious. But that Baby Keem line I was like oh wow.
20:49 was also such a good prediction about the flows because all of the Kendrick Drake diss tracks had completely different flows on each one. Joe knew what he was talking about
It's like he never listened to anything Kendrick has ever written about. Kdot don't care about Drake and his crappy new album. Kendrick is a prophet trying to release actual art, not pop songs...
Facts. I dont see why a REAL hiphop artist like Kendrick needs to worry about a artist who only makes radio/club hits in Drake. What would be the point in that?
@@demontreten to remove all doubt. even if Drake is more of a pop star, you're smoking that rock if you don't think he cares about the same thing Kendrick cares about: respect for his pen. Jay could have easily outshined Nas without saying shit considering their trajectories at that point. but he threw shots in their hometown on the biggest stage because he had a point to prove. he was wrong lol but it's about the sport.
that said, Kendrick also probably wanted to spend time with his kid in their most formative years before he rejoined the circus. so i get why he's been ghost.
KDot was talking to Drake… it was him telling Drake to leave Ye alone for me. I think he was telling Drake like naw leave Ye alone and come fucc wit me “..I’m old school Gemini..”
Exactly Bro, He meant Kanye changed his life , refering to him finding God's face and wouldn't want rap beef, then me am still old School Gemini, refering to old school rappers always beefing about some sh*t, you got it Brother 😭😭
@@sonrise7214 if Kanye don’t want to rap he shouldn’t be making these snake like moves behind the scenes that he been doing to drake for years. The lift yourself beat is ONE example
@@romaretaylor9953 Believe me the only reason that Man is still Rapping is to keep relevance for his product marketings so he doesn't need to be endorsing Artist officially for advertisement and pay millions for that, I mean who has that kind of Business going on with all that money and still wants to Rap Brother, would you if you was in his position, He is the reason why Rap Music is All Above other kinds of Music in the world today and that fame and steady relevancy should at least be his reward for that and then he can expand from there and be whatever he wish to be Brother 💖💖
“Nothings been the same since they dropped control and tucked a sensitive rapper back in his pajama clothes “ LoL like low key that’s not even subliminal that’s direct as hell
A true student of the game. He talking about kendrick talking through his teeth, voice change, flows, top 5. I only heard it how black shirt heard but listening to joe budden and knowing many details he put in his beef verses, i shouldve paid more attention.
Kendrick is basically going for himself. He’s changing his flows again and voice. This is the new Kendrick. He even might change his name. He’s making a new and better version of himself, G.O.A.T.
@@ThePointymetal fr lmao. like it’s literally just kendrick having fun on the track he’s not being extremely serious. everyone trying to over analyze and shit
Joe fucked up the past several months but I’ll always come back for him getting loud about hip hop and making conspiracy-level points that we later learn were accurate.
Joe is literally on some nut shit. Kendrick literally took a step away from the wild life and focused on himself and his mental health. You don’t ever hear anything about Kendricks personal life. He’s a solid individual with amazing lyrics. The only song drake got that’s even close to Kdot’s is 30 for 30 freestyle. This guy is drunk
@@maatmelanin1159 lil baby isn't even in the conversation, at least not as this time; and lil baby is fire. DRAKE, on the other hand will have all the numbers to appear as the Goat, numbers 1's, sales, etc...but will Drake's music have longevity, maybe or maybe not..."I'm to sexy" songs wear out fast...The question will remain, can Drake's commercial success beat out Kendricks musical artistry. I don't think it can. DRAKES last album is actually a step in the wrong direction. KENDRICKS next album will help answer these questions...we're all waiting Kenny.
2013 -Kendrick drops control - Almost every rapper responded including guys from NYC who weren’t on it. -Kendrick doesn’t respond -Drake does an interview saying, “who remembers that song?”. And does a feature on Futures “shit remix” sneak dissing Kdot -Kdot does a whole cypher dissing Drake Joe is 1000% spot on!
No one Kendrick Named on the song responded. Not a one. Joe is dead wrong. He then went on to say that Kendrick tried to use an umbrella and say “I’m talking about everyone” for control when he did not. He named names specifically. Joe has been calling him Candy man/boogy man on this same pod for like 4-5 years and now all of a sudden he’s switches. Kendrick talked about people getting off on social activism this past year. That is not drake. Kendrick talked about people just hitting platinum in the past year and it not counting. That is not drake. He talked and mentioned Kanye specifically on this song. That is not Drake. Joe is wrong, per usual. He was not just talking about drake.
@@JJohnson313 underrated take...i agree...how is Kendrick getting framed as "scared" or "worried" when he literally said Drake name on a record and Drake didnt respond...at this points he's lowkey picking on Drake because DRAKE is scared to respond directly bc he cant RAP with Kendrick. SMOKING ON YOUR "TOP 5" TONIGHT.
Every one missed it, he said “yea Kanye changed his life but me I’m still an old school gemini” LET ME JUMP IN THIS BITCH” he’s telling Kanye to move aside, let me and drake finish what was started.
it's crazy how Kendrick releases a fire verse that's just light hearted and kinda having fun at the industry and reactions flare... but when he drops complex, meaningful verses laced with thought provoking poetry people just ignore....
who ignored ? it was the highest selling album and produced the highest selling hip hop tour of all time.... the mr moral tour is literally the titanic (the movie) of hip hop and you think people ignored it because people didn't make tiktoks or something?😂 Also won the damn rap album of the year.
5:39 Joe knows how ELITE MCs think (cause he obvs is one) 17:00 did he come with new flows, or WHAT!?!? Joe is a superb analyst. All credit due for this one!
11:00 Canibus had a player on his website like a decade and a half ago where you could turn the vocals down, the beat up, change beats, rearrange lyrics to make not only your own beat over pre-recorded vocals but rearrange his vocals to make your own bars using 48 minutes lyrics he pre-recorded and it was called Poet Laureate Infinity. Canibus had a 100 bars first, no respect. Had a whole website in like 99 or 2000, Canibus Central... Then 200 bars per song, some with no hooks on Mic Club then the Poet Laureate Infinity project where he raps for like 50 minutes straight if you can find the original uncut version before the mixing machine was put on his site. It's crazy how an era used him and tossed him away and today his influence is everywhere. I'm so glad he was inducted into the Hip Hop Hall of Fame in DC last year... He deserved that shit. He spit his heart out... He is rap incarnate... He earned that induction.
They don’t remember Canibus they trying to erase him out of history. Canibus was always ahead of everyone. The battle rap stuff he did destroyed his image but the real ones know.
I agree with joe...the moment kdot said smoking on top5s you knew he was talking to drake...Kendrick drops the same day as candyman release in theaters and by monday drake Announced his album drops on Sept 3rd 🤔 ntm Yeezy dropped donda immediately lol Everybody was waiting on who would strike first and now I'm here with my popcorn 🍿 waiting to see who comes out with the crown
1) “Smokin on top 5s” isn’t a Drake diss intentionally, just Kendrick sayin he’s the best rapper 2) This is Baby Keem’s song that dropped that Kendrick had no control over, shit is a pure coincidence. You reaching with that one.
@@likemikegenerationx2 agree to diagree...its no coincidence all three artist prepare the rollout same weekend...ntm kendrick just announced this will be his LAST album with TDE last week before the family ties dropped..Everything over there is strategic..and Kendrick and Keem Is About To Branch Off & Do They Own Thing With PG Lang so that makes me think joe makes a solid point..I Guess We'll See What Happens Next
@@likemikegenerationx2 it is baby keem's song but baby keem is on Kendricks label i think kendrick def have control over it. the last line on the song is about drake too
Mann Drake put Kendrick on his album before many people even knew who he was and before he dropped Good Kid Maad City. He must always pay respect to the Goat he knows where Drake stands in the game all he should be saying is thank you‼️
Virgo shit.... We see the details. I don't even believe in the zodiac, but I've been ahead of the curve quite a few times. If only I could benefit financially 😂
it's not always a specific person, it might be a hypothetical person, it might be their audience, someone elses, general music fans, a group related to the topic, etc. but generally its directed somewhere whether vaguely or specific, yeah.
@@darkskinwhite far as I seen, Drake is in everybody ( the vast majority) Top 5 💯 so yea, Kendrick definitely put that out as a “ they coo but I’m forever that nigga “
When Kendrick came out with Damn he took out ads on 2 of the largest billboards in Toronto off the highway so as you drove into TO you saw Kendrick's face first and the word Damn above. He is speaking to Drake..
Joe is completely right about his rappers/musicians being superheroes theory. I really understand & feel like that makes sense on a fundamental level. There are some traits/abilities that some of the best rappers have that is not replicated. It’s hard to explain but there are these intangibles that make all the difference in the world.
This is where Joe excels. He understands lyrics and the effect it has on a rapper more than fans ever will. Looking forward to that CLB breakdown on Friday 👌🏿
I’m surprised Joe didn’t mention: The fact that Kendrick talks _about_ Kanye, but not directly _to_ Kanye. They were pulling some Kanye styles, like the ballerinas and barn. He references spirituality, but in the form of angels and himself (being the savior), not the way Kanye reveres God. He’s telling Drake, I’m a Gemini too, but unlike Kanye, I’m not going to go easy on you. Edit: He also references Number 2 DMing his girl, would be a reference to Drake and Kim. (shout out DeSo X)
i dont think it was a diss towards kanye, kendrick fw kanye and keem does too he was on donda but i do agree with the last part you said also i dont think anyone noticed keem was throwing shots at drake too "number 2 DMing my bitch, thats cool ion ask why" and other parts in the song
I interpreted as Kanye already did his thing, he is not a rapper, not anymore. He is doing gospel inspired music, singing, and is way older than kdot and drake. I think kdot is saying that if drake really wants beef he is the guy right now. Love him or hate him ye transcended rap.
Hold up.....ain't no way! Look I realize sometimes we be looking too deep and reaching too much when it comes to Kendrick...but has WAY TOO many ties to this podcast episode. Some of Joe's last words are "The not like US" Dude talks about smoking on that za 16:55 Kendrick...roll them up like a fresh pack of za Joe talking about tootsie slide Kendrick says "You can't tootsie slide out of this one The reference to using his super power (unlocking more flows to come) Kendrick using dozens and dozens of flows just in 4 songs alone.
This aged perfectly because the new track Kendrick & Keem dropped - The Hillbillies, sounds similar to "Sticky" by Drake. The song was fire its Kendrick ofc but it sounds like a troll so now i see what Joe means by this.
He’s not really predicting anything. He’s listening and analyzing bars. I knew everything he said was true cause I actually listen to what they are saying. It’s really not hard to see.
This was hilarious. I actually love the aggressiveness in Joe’s conviction. Kendrick V Drake would undoubtedly be the biggest head to head since Nas v Jay.
Man, I think for any artist who put out a project like DAMN there would be some pressure in delivering the follow up album to that. And with that said probably just pure focus as he does seem like a perfectionist.
Felt like it was super obvious but people somehow did respect Kendrick like that shout out to Joe for always telling the truth and actually paying attention
Mann Drake put Kendrick on his album before many people even knew who he was and before he dropped Good Kid Maad City. He must always pay respect to the Goat he knows where Drake stands in the game all he should be saying is thank you‼️
@@Nothingisonyourscreen Stop acting like Drake is the reason for his success lol. And Drake can't hold Kendricks dirty draws when it comes to overall albums and bar for bar. That CLB is booboo to be real. Drake is just up on record sales because he sings and he's a pop artist. KDot all day
@@Itz_Merkin_SZN people buy/listen to drake albums for DRAKE not because he has a damn lil durk feature. Stop acting like drake Didn’t work hard at all for his success
To all those revisiting this in May of 2024. Bless up.
brr brr brr
And Joe was SPOT on. I’ll give him that!
Joe be knowing !
Already
Yurrrpppp
and he told Drake you can't toosie slide out of this one 🤣🤣
Joe said these n’s not like us at the end.
@@Toekneevill yeah that shit was wild
@@willwatson3343 they be calling joe a hater but he really tapped in lol
Ice couldn’t see it. Even with those coke bottles…Joe had this called. 🔮
It's just gon' resurface
This aged really well. Hate Joe all you want but his hip hop speculation skills is top tier.
Negrodamus!
Didn’t age well for Ice. 😂
Wild@@Munki
Despite his arrogance… he’s truly intelligent & humorous.
Facts it aged very well 💯
Joe's a hip-hop prophet, ong. Maaan the fact that kendrick even used "Toosie Slide" in the second diss makes this even crazier. I can see how sometimes Joe's attitude may turn people away and make them disagree with him, but after everything that happened between Kendrick and Drake, people better start giving this man his flowers. No one knows this hip-hop shit like this true Emcee and former artist.
Fax
📠📠📠
❤
'They Ain't like us" is the very last thing Joe said in the vid.. sheesh
I’m sure Kendrick watches joe fr
Bruh… this crazy. Kendrick is a magician.
@@Goodnightsrest Joe said him, Drake and Push does
@@GoodnightsrestKDot definitely watches. Joe is remarkable in this podcast shit. Been watching since 2016. Drake watches too
That's crazy yo 🔥🔥🔥🔥
29:47 Joe gave Kendrick the perfect hook lmao. "These niggas ain't like us."
Wow what ?!?
Joe called it. Joe instincts unmatched.
Joe's ability to read Hip Hop tea leaves is supernatural.
is also cause he was beefing with a bunch of people in the 2000s he knows beef
That's his uncanny ability
Definitely a skill! He has it!!!
he literally said these 🥷🏽are not like us
😮😮😮
Joe Budden really deserve’s the Kendrick interview.
Definitely does.
Fr tho.... Or he should be in one of his mv's.
Yup and ish gotta be there to face the smoke 😂
@@martinrosario4018lmao ish better say that bullshit that Drake out rapped him during the battle
@@SergioRamos-ir7mi I think hes honorable enough to say it to Kendrick’s face ngl
This aged well!!
But Joe didn't
Very well indeed
😂😂😂@@Olivierstreet
Very well!!!
Yes @@kamallamccain2699
"Can't tootsie slide up outta dis one." Is hitting even harder now 😂
Right
“It’s just gon resurface” we’re all going back traveling in portals to look at things with a different lens . Resurfacing clips from the past and connecting them to recent events .
Here in 2024, Like That Kendrick Verse Dropped Joe was Right 2 years prior
bro I’m legit back because of that verse😂…
Joe has always been a prophet😭🤣🤣🤣
Glad I’m not the only one who knew he was right.
Here after kdot bodied drizzy
Un prophete
Aged like fine wine
Fax
Who’s here after the new Kendrick verse? 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂stuck in a rabbit hole
You know it!
I’m here after Cole’s trash responds and the shit was full of cap💀😭😭😭😭😭
@@southside-hornbaby5325bro thinks gun bars gonna win him the battle
Push was right, Joe is really good with his guessing shit 😂
Cause he’s giving educated guesses
This take aged perfectly... and if we really subscribe to it, kendrick been writing for 2 years
@@untuchablemizz1
Family Ties: smoking on your top 5s, dont you address me unless its with 4 letters i thought youd known better, soon as i press that button better get right like the ambulance comin, when i come im killing everybody thats outside, one daughter but they all my sons in this b--
Like That: my temperament bipolar i choose violence, its time for him to prove that hes a problem, m-eff the big 3 it's just big me
these two records were the clear precursor for the smoke show we just watched. if Cole did not "get right" im sure it would have been a double homicide
@@AllTheArtsy see i agree but i also understand its debatable with the cole take. I think it could go either way.. bar for bar would go to cole... but angles and shock value would go to kendrick... the only way to actually know who would win is to see them go back and forth forreal
It was so obvious at the time family ties was a direct shot at drake. Keem said #2 dm’ing my bitch that’s cool I don’t ask why. It could only be one man. And then they dropped the Hillbillies and that was a song clowning drake
Came back to re-examine Joestradamas after the massacre of the Drizzler.😂
“The Drizzler” is profanity 😂
Lmfaoooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣
Joe really got my respect throughout this whole beef. He really gets it.
The culture owes joe an apology for all the jokes thrown at him and he always ends up bein right.
Let's remember what he said about teenage fever by Drake
Facts@@IknowMoreThanYou
@@IknowMoreThanYouWhat episode/clip?
Finding this 2 years later after Kendrick and Drake's beef with Not Like Us boomin is crazy. Joe is the GOAT
This shit aged like fine wine. Kendrick has been filling his war chest for years.
He listen to 2Pac said “before I got to war, you told me to get my money right”, and Kendrick took shots first, when he started PGLang and positioned himself where he controls his music and money THEN he went to full on war. Plus he has more disses in the tuck, so he can war for as long as drake wants to.
“Sometimes you gotta pop out and show ninjas”🥷
Y’all missed when Kendrick said “Kanye may of changed his life, but me, I’m still an old school Gemini” - that’s a shot at Drake. Like, Ye found God but Kdot will murder
Exactly but people wanna be team drake so bad
Facts!
Holy shit! Opened my eyes. I thought it was a ye diss!!!
Dammmn aint even peeep
point blank. and it's a double-entandre because when So Far Gone came to streaming, Drake did a whole diatribe on IG and mentioned how Kanye contributed to his career.
BABY KEEM triiiiiied to tell us 3 years ago smh “NUMBER 2 DM’ing my bitch, that’s cool I ont ask why”
what!!!! God damn, you're right!
I dont get it@@donteventryit007
I swear nobody else seemed to pick up on that. "Who went platinum? I call him a visitor?" "F that single, f that album burn that hardrive." It was soooo obvious. But that Baby Keem line I was like oh wow.
@@christophertheconqueror8751 every single bar damn near Kenny was goin at “the boy” 😬 sand Hood Politics comes across different now too fr
Bro I literally thought about this during the beef. Drake a weirdo
Joe is the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to overstanding what's going on in hip hop. Some people just have to accept the fact.
20:49 was also such a good prediction about the flows because all of the Kendrick Drake diss tracks had completely different flows on each one. Joe knew what he was talking about
The fact Joe doesn't understand Kendrick stepping away from his phone is to detach from the world. It's a good thing.
Yea Joe just a dh
Joe Budden need to touch grass.
@@SatisfactoryBro LMFAO
It's like he never listened to anything Kendrick has ever written about. Kdot don't care about Drake and his crappy new album. Kendrick is a prophet trying to release actual art, not pop songs...
It’s to reattach to the world actually. iPhone, internet, alla that is a detachment from the world.
The fact that Kendrick said that line about drake and Kanye on Father Time proves that Joe was right
Yup proves he was very right
Bro joe was a reference e even to Drake back in the days. He was and still a real real mc. So he just know how the mindset of any type of rapper is
And now!!! Holy shit its about go down
@@aliabdullkarim8618 iiiiiiiiiiiit's tiiiiiiiiiiiiime
😂😂😂 hindsight 20/20 Joe really called this shit 😭
3 years ago
Who’s here after Kendrick ended Drakes career ?
Me😂
😅😅😅
Drake.
Kendrick was not MIA cause of drake, Joe is just speaking on his own experience when it comes to beefing with drake lmao
Frfr Kendrick only put out quality projects he already said them albums take time.
Facts. I dont see why a REAL hiphop artist like Kendrick needs to worry about a artist who only makes radio/club hits in Drake. What would be the point in that?
@@demontreten exactly
@@demontreten to remove all doubt. even if Drake is more of a pop star, you're smoking that rock if you don't think he cares about the same thing Kendrick cares about: respect for his pen.
Jay could have easily outshined Nas without saying shit considering their trajectories at that point. but he threw shots in their hometown on the biggest stage because he had a point to prove. he was wrong lol but it's about the sport.
that said, Kendrick also probably wanted to spend time with his kid in their most formative years before he rejoined the circus. so i get why he's been ghost.
KDot was talking to Drake… it was him telling Drake to leave Ye alone for me. I think he was telling Drake like naw leave Ye alone and come fucc wit me “..I’m old school Gemini..”
Exactly Bro, He meant Kanye changed his life , refering to him finding God's face and wouldn't want rap beef, then me am still old School Gemini, refering to old school rappers always beefing about some sh*t, you got it Brother 😭😭
@@sonrise7214 if Kanye don’t want to rap he shouldn’t be making these snake like moves behind the scenes that he been doing to drake for years. The lift yourself beat is ONE example
@@romaretaylor9953 Believe me the only reason that Man is still Rapping is to keep relevance for his product marketings so he doesn't need to be endorsing Artist officially for advertisement and pay millions for that, I mean who has that kind of Business going on with all that money and still wants to Rap Brother, would you if you was in his position, He is the reason why Rap Music is All Above other kinds of Music in the world today and that fame and steady relevancy should at least be his reward for that and then he can expand from there and be whatever he wish to be Brother 💖💖
Yea Drake been ducking Kendrick for years he gon have to face him
@@romaretaylor9953 Drake been a snake to EVERYONE, and no one should care?
Keem even said "Number 2 DMing my chick, that's cool I don't ask why" Clearly going at Drake. This is a higher game than most understand.
I did catch that towards the end of the track
I knew it was something about that line 😂!!!
He keem now 👏🏾 how drake get into dis??????? Lol
Its weird because Drake is a Baby Keem fan and always post his new music
if they think that drake is number 2 it only really means he's number 1
😂 WHO IS HERE AFTER KENDRICK DISSING COLE AND DRAKE??
Facts!!! 😂
😂😂 been a crazy 5 days had to run it back
He was right!!!
I'm here after Drake just slapped around Kendrick and Friends. 🤣 and we are still waiting on Kendrick.
Me bro , Kendrick going to smoke drake .
Joe: “Whenever Kendrick pops out”
Kendrick: “sometimes you gotta pop out and show niggas”
Joe wasn't lying 😂
Joe predicted this shii and Ice was just like naaaah! Funny how he was also dancing to Not Like Us!!!
Smoking on your top 5 tonight!!!!
My nigga Joe has Always been a Prophet Goddamn it🤣🤣, Can't wait for the next Podcast for him to reference this🤣
Kendrick used: “There not like use”, “you gotta pop out” & “Toosie slide”🤣😂🤣👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I dropped my phone when he said “they aint like us” 🫨
Attributing Drake as the main reason Kendrick put his phone away during the global situation we are in is insane LMAO
Lmaoooii
This man loosing brain cells over this
🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Also Joe he literally mentions he was ducking the pandemic in Family Ties, surely that couldn't play at least a minor role in your mind?
Right wtf. Shit was happening. Hell I wish I could fucking go off grid like that.
Has everyone forgot when Kendrick openly dissed drake on the BET cypher
I remember. I also remember how he had Drake in his feelings on Angie Martinez after Control dropped
Lol charlamange dissed him too . Called him a Albino sloth and drake cried lmaoooo
“Nothings been the same since they dropped control and tucked a sensitive rapper back in his pajama clothes “ LoL like low key that’s not even subliminal that’s direct as hell
@@qdamusiq5006 brah that jont was so direct and EVERYBODY acted like they ain't hear it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@fishandfoul2583 yea they are acting like kendrick hasn't already sent shots
A true student of the game. He talking about kendrick talking through his teeth, voice change, flows, top 5. I only heard it how black shirt heard but listening to joe budden and knowing many details he put in his beef verses, i shouldve paid more attention.
Kendrick is basically going for himself. He’s changing his flows again and voice. This is the new Kendrick. He even might change his name. He’s making a new and better version of himself, G.O.A.T.
I don’t think he’s going to re brand.
His lyricism is too Potent to hide
Lmfaooooo 😂
Sheltered Kids be trippin nowadays
@@ThePointymetal fr lmao. like it’s literally just kendrick having fun on the track he’s not being extremely serious. everyone trying to over analyze and shit
@@StrangeCollections exactly! It’s hilarious
Joe looking like a prophet right now 😂
A failed prophet.
Joestradamus knew we would be here...
After this, ice and ish don't need to question joe on nothing hip hop related
Joe fucked up the past several months but I’ll always come back for him getting loud about hip hop and making conspiracy-level points that we later learn were accurate.
I'm right with you lol any take on music I'm here for .
Yup
Str8 up
Fact can't nobody break down subliminal messages like Joe
On god ran back so quick lol but ima leave right after this clip lol
"1,2,3,4,5 plus 5."
Joe was right. Kendrick was away from his phone puttin' in work.
This aged INCREDIBLY well.
Joe needs to do a show on how he called all this Drake and Kendrick beef!!!
In the breakdown of the beef he said he been right about this shit the whole time
And a real Bar Emcee breakdown of the songs
Who’s here after Kendrick winning the beef? 🏆
Joe is literally on some nut shit. Kendrick literally took a step away from the wild life and focused on himself and his mental health. You don’t ever hear anything about Kendricks personal life. He’s a solid individual with amazing lyrics. The only song drake got that’s even close to Kdot’s is 30 for 30 freestyle. This guy is drunk
Something Joe Crazy Ass Need To Do
Why most people down here in the south don’t even know who Joe is. He’s a joke
FUCKING SPOT ON 😂👍👏🏆
@@robertbrownjr.1298 lol if it wasnt for Def Jam video game i wouldnt even know who Joe Nudden is !
Not for nothing, his wife and daughter...
Kenny is the Goat. He's a mad lyrical genius, mixed with ability to craft commercial success songs and cultural relevant thought provoking music.
@@maatmelanin1159 lil baby isn't even in the conversation, at least not as this time; and lil baby is fire. DRAKE, on the other hand will have all the numbers to appear as the Goat, numbers 1's, sales, etc...but will Drake's music have longevity, maybe or maybe not..."I'm to sexy" songs wear out fast...The question will remain, can Drake's commercial success beat out Kendricks musical artistry. I don't think it can. DRAKES last album is actually a step in the wrong direction. KENDRICKS next album will help answer these questions...we're all waiting Kenny.
He makes sonically good sounding music but it's ppl with more bars than kdot. Wayne for one
This aged well
Give Joe his flowers
I haven’t listened to the pod in a while but I was waiting on Joe’s take about this .
Same b
Wait till He listen. To drake album, he really going to go in
🧢
Saaaaaaaame!!!
I wasn’t waiting. I stopped checking on Joe. I’m all thing KDOT right now.
Joe’s confidence is noteworthy. He didn’t care that no one around comprehended his deeper point.
If Joe knows anything HE KNOWS HIP HOP. One of my best to do it.
He even predicted that the kendrick diss styles would change.
Joe is @ his purest form when he’s discussing hip hop and breaking down bars 💯
Hearing this clip after Kendrick just won the beef is wild 😂. Joe be knowing 💯
2013
-Kendrick drops control
- Almost every rapper responded including guys from NYC who weren’t on it.
-Kendrick doesn’t respond
-Drake does an interview saying, “who remembers that song?”. And does a feature on Futures “shit remix” sneak dissing Kdot
-Kdot does a whole cypher dissing Drake
Joe is 1000% spot on!
The Shit freestyle remix was after The BET cypher.
No one Kendrick Named on the song responded. Not a one. Joe is dead wrong. He then went on to say that Kendrick tried to use an umbrella and say “I’m talking about everyone” for control when he did not. He named names specifically. Joe has been calling him Candy man/boogy man on this same pod for like 4-5 years and now all of a sudden he’s switches.
Kendrick talked about people getting off on social activism this past year. That is not drake.
Kendrick talked about people just hitting platinum in the past year and it not counting. That is not drake.
He talked and mentioned Kanye specifically on this song. That is not Drake.
Joe is wrong, per usual. He was not just talking about drake.
@@JJohnson313 underrated take...i agree...how is Kendrick getting framed as "scared" or "worried" when he literally said Drake name on a record and Drake didnt respond...at this points he's lowkey picking on Drake because DRAKE is scared to respond directly bc he cant RAP with Kendrick. SMOKING ON YOUR "TOP 5" TONIGHT.
You are almost right. But he responded to Drae because Drake said he wouldn't make music with him anymore
Drake was the only one that took it personal
@@JJohnson313 Meek did a whole diss song towards Kdot. Pappose, Joel Ortiz, Hopsin, just to name a few
Geesh and Kendrick just said "you cant tootsie slide out this one"😮😮😮 woww
Damn lol. It literally gets better and better the more we discover about the lyrics. sheesh 🔥 🔥 🔥
Every one missed it, he said “yea Kanye changed his life but me I’m still an old school gemini” LET ME JUMP IN THIS BITCH” he’s telling Kanye to move aside, let me and drake finish what was started.
Agreed went right over ppl heads
Facts !!!! They missing that !!!!! He telling Drake leave Kanye alone & come fw him !!!
it's crazy how Kendrick releases a fire verse that's just light hearted and kinda having fun at the industry and reactions flare... but when he drops complex, meaningful verses laced with thought provoking poetry people just ignore....
Exactly
...even today...
@@805Raw came to say the same thing. Wild how Dave X’s comment is even more amplified after the release of Kendrick’s latest album, MM&TBS.
Light hearted? Ok just stop sit down
who ignored ? it was the highest selling album and produced the highest selling hip hop tour of all time.... the mr moral tour is literally the titanic (the movie) of hip hop and you think people ignored it because people didn't make tiktoks or something?😂 Also won the damn rap album of the year.
Joe budden was definitely right 2 years it goes down 2024 😂😂😂
“These 🥷🏽 not like us” 29:48 🤣🤣🤣
This aged like fine wine! Give Joe the credit he deserves!
I most DEFINITELY thought of Drake when I first heard Kenny say "Smoking on your top 5 tonight" Joe been spot on the whole time 💯
Ice couldn’t even wrap his brain around what Joe was talking about! Joe was right af then and now!
Whose here after the popout
It’s Funny How Joe Was Right About All Of This Bruh
Cause he Joe Muthafucking Budden
5:39 Joe knows how ELITE MCs think (cause he obvs is one)
17:00 did he come with new flows, or WHAT!?!? Joe is a superb analyst. All credit due for this one!
11:00 Canibus had a player on his website like a decade and a half ago where you could turn the vocals down, the beat up, change beats, rearrange lyrics to make not only your own beat over pre-recorded vocals but rearrange his vocals to make your own bars using 48 minutes lyrics he pre-recorded and it was called Poet Laureate Infinity. Canibus had a 100 bars first, no respect. Had a whole website in like 99 or 2000, Canibus Central... Then 200 bars per song, some with no hooks on Mic Club then the Poet Laureate Infinity project where he raps for like 50 minutes straight if you can find the original uncut version before the mixing machine was put on his site. It's crazy how an era used him and tossed him away and today his influence is everywhere. I'm so glad he was inducted into the Hip Hop Hall of Fame in DC last year... He deserved that shit. He spit his heart out... He is rap incarnate... He earned that induction.
FINALLY Someone Acknowledge Can-i-bus GENIUS.... People Need To Learn To Respect The Architect....
They don’t remember Canibus they trying to erase him out of history. Canibus was always ahead of everyone. The battle rap stuff he did destroyed his image but the real ones know.
Canibus is one of my favourite Emcees. Hype-Nitis will always be one of my favourite joints. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I’m a Canibus stan all the way out in South Africa 🇿🇦...says a lot about his impact if you ask me
@@no9254me Word!
3 years later and the prophecy is unfolding
I agree with joe...the moment kdot said smoking on top5s you knew he was talking to drake...Kendrick drops the same day as candyman release in theaters and by monday drake Announced his album drops on Sept 3rd 🤔 ntm Yeezy dropped donda immediately lol Everybody was waiting on who would strike first and now I'm here with my popcorn 🍿 waiting to see who comes out with the crown
1) “Smokin on top 5s” isn’t a Drake diss intentionally, just Kendrick sayin he’s the best rapper
2) This is Baby Keem’s song that dropped that Kendrick had no control over, shit is a pure coincidence. You reaching with that one.
@@likemikegenerationx2 agree to diagree...its no coincidence all three artist prepare the rollout same weekend...ntm kendrick just announced this will be his LAST album with TDE last week before the family ties dropped..Everything over there is strategic..and Kendrick and Keem Is About To Branch Off & Do They Own Thing With PG Lang so that makes me think joe makes a solid point..I Guess We'll See What Happens Next
chess pieces were moved ...(by universal mostly though)
Kendrick goes at the top rappers everytime! You acting like its drake vs Kendrick..... Me trick is coming for everyone on top. Joe is wrong simple!
@@likemikegenerationx2 it is baby keem's song but baby keem is on Kendricks label i think kendrick def have control over it. the last line on the song is about drake too
my Man Joe was right all along , he literally got it from the start fr fr 🎆🎆 respect
Damn...Joe look like a prophet. He read the tea leaves.
Tea leaves lmaooo most ppl won’t get that one
watching this in 2025 IS CRAAAAZY
Kendrick bringing that all the smoke energy again
It's necessary
Mann Drake put Kendrick on his album before many people even knew who he was and before he dropped Good Kid Maad City. He must always pay respect to the Goat he knows where Drake stands in the game all he should be saying is thank you‼️
@@Nothingisonyourscreen “respect to the goat” is the funniest shit I’ve read today.
@@Nothingisonyourscreen he dissed drake on Buried Alive
@@Nothingisonyourscreen stop 🤡😆
Joe’s take really aged like wine and his confidence makes it so much better
I have come to the conclusion Joe is a hip-hop genius
Joe doesn't bug ou.t he just see things early
Virgo shit.... We see the details. I don't even believe in the zodiac, but I've been ahead of the curve quite a few times. If only I could benefit financially 😂
@@miadeathwish Nobody cares if you a virgo or virgin or cucumber.
“YEA KANYE CHNAGED HIS WAYS BUT ME IM STILL A OLD SCHOOL GEMINI”
My favorite line , relate to that line so much lol
“He’s telling Kanye to move” Joe actually making sense😭😭
I’m the back Kendrick said lil bitch an nobody caught that idk why
Joe is on drugs again 😂🤦🏾♂️
@@ricksimmons3245 I caught that too he was slick with it tho lol
Why don’t ppl listen to the rapper like Joe. But listen to a podcaster like Ak.
Because they not fans of Rap, Hip Hop, or Music. They fans of Music Industry Gossip
@@MikeHunt-hm6boYep. A lot of people like some rap music and hate Hip-Hop in general.
That part @@MikeHunt-hm6bo
Joe understands that when writing lyrics there has to be a reason why, it's ALWAYS addressed at someone whether blatantly obvious or subliminal
and the reason is kendrick shitting on every rapper
it's not always a specific person, it might be a hypothetical person, it might be their audience, someone elses, general music fans, a group related to the topic, etc. but generally its directed somewhere whether vaguely or specific, yeah.
"saying that to who? post malone?" lmao
@@darkskinwhite far as I seen, Drake is in everybody ( the vast majority) Top 5 💯 so yea, Kendrick definitely put that out as a “ they coo but I’m forever that nigga “
that's not true attal
When Joe is right he be spot on 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
When Kendrick came out with Damn he took out ads on 2 of the largest billboards in Toronto off the highway so as you drove into TO you saw Kendrick's face first and the word Damn above. He is speaking to Drake..
Lmao damn 🤣 😂
Bruh, i hope this is confirmed because it would be awesome AF lmao
How savage 💀
yep thats facts, I remember seeing the billboard
@@daedae3934 pp0 p 😱 😱
“Can’t tootsie slide outta this one it’s just gonna resurface”
Joe is completely right about his rappers/musicians being superheroes theory.
I really understand & feel like that makes sense on a fundamental level.
There are some traits/abilities that some of the best rappers have that is not replicated. It’s hard to explain but there are these intangibles that make all the difference in the world.
This is where Joe excels. He understands lyrics and the effect it has on a rapper more than fans ever will. Looking forward to that CLB breakdown on Friday 👌🏿
🤣 Joe just hates drake and wants someone to beef with him...he still brings up tootsie slide 😆 he's reaching bruh
"Smoking on ya top 5"...drake isn't in everyone's top 5 so kdot is saying he smoking on whoever not specifically drake
@@queefburglarr he's always been a huge drake fan. Kendrick threw the subs in that verse. He said Drake would easily outsell Ye. He has 0 bias
Got that right!
@@queefburglarr Joe is a Drake Stan bro hence when he drops we get a 2 hour breakdown lol
I’m surprised Joe didn’t mention:
The fact that Kendrick talks _about_ Kanye, but not directly _to_ Kanye.
They were pulling some Kanye styles, like the ballerinas and barn.
He references spirituality, but in the form of angels and himself (being the savior), not the way Kanye reveres God.
He’s telling Drake, I’m a Gemini too, but unlike Kanye, I’m not going to go easy on you.
Edit: He also references Number 2 DMing his girl, would be a reference to Drake and Kim.
(shout out DeSo X)
i dont think it was a diss towards kanye, kendrick fw kanye and keem does too he was on donda but i do agree with the last part you said also i dont think anyone noticed keem was throwing shots at drake too "number 2 DMing my bitch, thats cool ion ask why" and other parts in the song
@@Deso_X absolutely, and I agree with you on it not being a diss. It’s so funny I came back to this comment to add that line and you hit it haha🤝🤝
I interpreted as Kanye already did his thing, he is not a rapper, not anymore. He is doing gospel inspired music, singing, and is way older than kdot and drake. I think kdot is saying that if drake really wants beef he is the guy right now. Love him or hate him ye transcended rap.
You can't Toosie Slide your way out of this
Joe naming all the rappers had me dead 😂. “Before you to get to the father you gotta holla at me first”
Hold up.....ain't no way! Look I realize sometimes we be looking too deep and reaching too much when it comes to Kendrick...but has WAY TOO many ties to this podcast episode.
Some of Joe's last words are "The not like US"
Dude talks about smoking on that za 16:55 Kendrick...roll them up like a fresh pack of za
Joe talking about tootsie slide Kendrick says "You can't tootsie slide out of this one
The reference to using his super power (unlocking more flows to come) Kendrick using dozens and dozens of flows just in 4 songs alone.
@dorkjelly you are cooking! 🔥
You can't tootsie slide out of this one, it's just gon resurface!
Damn Iaint been here in a hot minute but I’m glad to see Joe is still insane. Lmao
ROFL
😂😂😂😂😂😂
U missing out Patreon be litty
Lmao on bro
What do you think now?
This aged perfectly because the new track Kendrick & Keem dropped - The Hillbillies, sounds similar to "Sticky" by Drake. The song was fire its Kendrick ofc but it sounds like a troll so now i see what Joe means by this.
Joe in his bags everytime i'ts pure hip hop, u kno how many things he predicted
He’s not really predicting anything. He’s listening and analyzing bars. I knew everything he said was true cause I actually listen to what they are saying. It’s really not hard to see.
How many times he been wrong
@@marcuslawson6800 if ur a long time listener u will kno what m talking bout
@@mehdihadey3258 he clearly isn’t a listener cause Joe been predicting shit
Scoot em and boot em
This was hilarious. I actually love the aggressiveness in Joe’s conviction. Kendrick V Drake would undoubtedly be the biggest head to head since Nas v Jay.
No.
@RunningOnEmpty tired of hearing this. Drake raps better than 90% of these niggas when he’s in that bag
@Phantom Freeze Swept nah. Duppy lyrically was superior to adidon.
@@CC-iy6zk lmfao
@@CC-iy6zk lmao nah, you are hiding a child.
Man, I think for any artist who put out a project like DAMN there would be some pressure in delivering the follow up album to that. And with that said probably just pure focus as he does seem like a perfectionist.
Kendrick is about to turn the volume up. I don't think he even cares about Drake.
@Phantom Freeze that part
Don't forget he definitely held his own with one of the most respected emcees Busta Rhymes.
@Phantom Freeze and untitiled unmastered
Felt like it was super obvious but people somehow did respect Kendrick like that shout out to Joe for always telling the truth and actually paying attention
“Kanye changed his life but me I’m still an old school Gemini” 👀 this was def aimed at drake
Mann Drake put Kendrick on his album before many people even knew who he was and before he dropped Good Kid Maad City. He must always pay respect to the Goat he knows where Drake stands in the game all he should be saying is thank you‼️
@@Nothingisonyourscreen Stop acting like Drake is the reason for his success lol. And Drake can't hold Kendricks dirty draws when it comes to overall albums and bar for bar. That CLB is booboo to be real. Drake is just up on record sales because he sings and he's a pop artist. KDot all day
@@Nothingisonyourscreen drake put everybody that’s bubbling up on his album that’s how he’s stayed relevant for so long. Riding other peoples waves
@@Itz_Merkin_SZN thank you bro for saying it, that’s his formula plus the pop music for the females really helps his sales and his relevancy
@@Itz_Merkin_SZN people buy/listen to drake albums for DRAKE not because he has a damn lil durk feature. Stop acting like drake Didn’t work hard at all for his success