but it sure is unfortunate that we crash landed on a planet with 3 aliens that have certain tendencies to lie and tell the truth, and that we know the entire alien language except for yes and no, and that we can only ask three yes or no questions, and that the aliens only respond with ozo and ulu.
There is an alternative version of this puzzle that says they understand English but will always answer in their own language, which makes it more plausible
an explanation; the gist of this whole riddle is to emphasize the power of a double negative. we can obtain all the information we need from these gods using double negatives, without even knowing the meaning of the answer or the how truthful it is. understanding why tee and eff will give their given answers is the easy part, at least when we are asking questions we know whether or not are true or false. i think when we try to get answers we dont already know, thats when it gets difficult and we get lost in the sauce. instead of ozo and ulu, ill use x and y for simplicity, with ozo=x and ulu=y. if the embedded question is true, no matter what x or y is, what we ask is going to either give a double positive or negative. (if i ask you whether or not the sky is blue, would you answer x?) when x=yes tee -> x! eff -> x! (to the question itself, it would answer y) when x=no tee -> x! eff -> x! (lies about lying to the embedded question.) the important part here is to realize they both responded x because the embedded question was true. what would happen if it was false? (if asked you whether or not the sky is red, would you answer x?) when x=yes tee -> y! eff -> y! (would say x to embedded question) when x=no tee -> y! eff -> y! (would say x to embedded question.) the takeaway is _when our embedded question is true,_ irregardless of what x or y is, we will get that same variable we put in our question back from them. thats the only thing all that x and y mess above told us thats important. now that we know what the answers to true and false questions look like, we can use the gods responses to see whether or not their responses match a true or false embedded statement. look; if i asked you whether *abc,* would you answer x? if a god responds -> x then we have proved above that abc must be a true statement, and we learned something new! if a god responds -> y then we have proved that abc must be false. just scroll up! now we use statements on the position of the gods to get them to sell each other out! but do not lost sight of the big picture- we dont care what ozo and ulu are! we dont need to! it doesnt matter! what matters is _if your embedded question is true!_
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz also, if you have to ask a question in their language, you won't be able to ask "if 'ozo' means 'yes', ..." since you don't know how to say 'yes' in their language. You'd have to ask something like "if 'ozo' means 'ozo', ..." which can't give you any useful information.
Exactly.. I think of myself as pretty good riddle solver but this one... I was really happy I understood the solution :D I had simply no idea how to solve it.
it makes it more confusing that he asked the aliens 4 questions and then got a bonus question at the end in a problem that says you can only ask 3 questions
@@hgriff14 forget the bonus question. It's understandable if you write it down or deduct backwards. If you ask Eff such questions and he tells you ozo. That means he's actual answer is in fact not ozo but ulu. Ulu( his real answer to the embedded question) is also a lie. And this depends on the embedded question. So if your embedded question is a true one. Edd would lie it's false(ulu) and lie that his intended answer is ozo(so he'd say ozo my answer was ozo)
It took me forever to get it too, I can try to explain it more clearly... Framing a question like "if I asked you this, would you answer this" would result in the same answer for both Tee and Eff every time. This is because Tee would be honest with you. And Eff would lie about lying to you. Their answers would therefore match on either yes or no. This essentially turns Eff into a second Tee. Tee - "Yes I would tell you." Eff - "Yes I would tell you." (I'm still lying because I wouldn't tell you)
Its actually not overly difficult to solve or understand the answer if you have a good knowledge of bool's algebra and good experience in problem solving. Otherwise, however, it is incredibly difficult
After seven years, I am proud to say that I finally understand the solution to this riddle (although I would still have no clue how to solve the riddle independently)
Little did you know, TEE helped to repair ship as he promised, EFF lied about fixing your ship and messed up your navigation system instead, while ARR left a timed bomb as a gift.
Yea, but even as the ship got f%cked, You got Yourself killed before You found it out, because You asked the 4th question - how far is earth at the end of video...
@@chriswebster24 well since any other question wouldn't yield useful I formation either might as well ask that so you don't beat yourself up for the rest of your life because you don't know it lol
2:15 It would be better to explain this by not using ozo or ulu. For example: “If I asked you if 2+2=4, would you say yes?” To the embedded question, Tee would say yes. Tee would reply to your question and say “Yes, I would say yes if you asked me if 2+2=4.” The rules state that Eff always lies. It doesn’t imply that Eff would say the opposite of Tee or vice versa. To the embedded question, Eff would say no. If he said “No, I would say no to 2+2=4.”, that means he said something true, which contradicts his rule of lying. Instead, he would lie and say “Yes, I would say yes to 2+2=4.” Reverse example: “If I asked you if 2+2=4, would you say no?” To the embedded question, Tee would say no, so Tee replies and says “No, I would say yes to 2+2=4.” Eff, again, would tell the truth and break his lying rule if he says “Yes, I would say no to 2+2=4.” So he would have to say “No, I would say yes to 2+2=4.”
@@Zurpador164 It's just an addition in their answer to make the answer easier to understand, the first word "Yes" and "No" in their can be replaced with ozo and ulu
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It's not super intuitive; you just have to check each case. Ask T: If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say yes? answer is yes Ask T: If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say no? answer is no Ask F: If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say yes? F would answer 2 + 2 = 4 with no, but what you're basically asking is "do you tell the truth?" He'd lie and say yes. Ask F: If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say no? What you're basically asking is "Would you tell a lie?" He'd lie and say no. If you notice, in each case the premise of the question you're asking is true. No matter what word you use, yes or no, or whether you're asking T or F, the alien would match that word. That's the hardest part of the logic puzzle; the rest is elimination.
Galaxy Cat, Destroyer of Worlds what i don't get is that what if you asked your first question from arr? The answer wouldn't even matter cause you don't know if he is lying or not
Galaxy Cat, Destroyer of Worlds you're actually explaining it from the wrong perspective. The key to solving this riddle is to first neglect the fact that the meaning to respective words ozo and ulu, and then use the theory of whether ++ or -- both equals + to ask them questions that is -- and see how the overlords react base on their respective logic. But you started your explanation from assuming the meaning to ozo and ulu, which is very confusing and somehow contradictory to the riddle's core essence.
ZHBG 9224 perfect understanding of a language so you can apply double negatives to long sentences, while also using perfect grammar comes with draw backs.
I’m just happy to say, despite not coming up with the answer, I was finally able to completely Understand the solution after some time. It took a while thought as they brush through that solution so fast without explaining in detail. It’s pretty remarkable for someone to come up with the full answer. In hindsight, it makes so much sense that question 1 must isolate one that isn’t the random answerer - as no other questions can contain information until you have at least that. But still.. even making that discovery, coming up with that first question is very difficult to do.
@@TOMMY-AND-FRIENDSit doesn't matter. The first question either confirms the left or the right isn't R. From there you ask the second question to either the left or the right. The centre doesn't matter.
@@duyle7831it's because the first question is meant to find whom among the lords at either side isn't r. if youre already talking to r, then neither of the sides are him, so r's random answer doesn't matter since it'll point to a non-r lord either way
Ozo = x^2 x pi. No solution. But.... if I told you there was, what would it be, yes or no? Ozo means yes, while ulu means no. This is solved by asking if Tee's name is Tee, and whatever he responds with is yes. By mentioning his name, he will respond truthfully. He responds Ozo, which is now yes. This identifies Tee, and solves for Ozo. Now, you mention Eff and pick a answer where you know if it is yes or no. This finds Eff and can lead to maybe discoveries and other possibilities. You then find Arr, and ask Tee if you this is the correct overlords' names.
@@olive4846 the crucial thing here is how the question is put: with that "if I asked you ... would you say ...". tee would say true 2 times. eff will lie 2 times. 2 lies in such case make true.
Well they would answer the same thing because the one who tells the truth would say yes I would tell the truth and the one who lies would say he would too because he's a liar same for the question of if they would lie
It's really not that difficult. If I asked you, "(insert hypothetical question here)," *would you reply "OZO"?* -If the hypothetical is true, Tee AND Eff will ALWAYS reply OZO -If the hypothetical is false, Tee AND Eff will always reply ULU. However, if we swapped out OZO for ULU in our question, everything would be the opposite. Like this: If I asked you, "(insert hypothetical question here)," *would you reply "ULU"?* -If the hypothetical is true, Tee AND Eff will ALWAYS reply ULU -If the hypothetical is false, Tee AND Eff will always reply OZO. Whatever you decide to put in at "would you reply _____?" will always be the response if the hypothetical is true. Here's an example: If I asked you, "Does 2+2=4," would you reply *"OZO"?* The answer will always be OZO if you're asking Tee or Eff. You could swap out OZO for ULU, though. If I asked you, "Does 2+2=4," would you reply "ULU"? Again, Tee and Eff will always reply ULL since the hypothetical is true. If it's false, they'll answer with the opposite word that's in the question. Let's assume we're talking to Eff. If I asked you, "Are you Eff," would you reply "OZO"? Assume OZO = TRUE. You can essentially rewrite the question: If I asked you, "Are you Eff," would you answer "yes"? Think about what Eff's reply will be, given that he always lies. If he says "yes, I would say yes," he's lying about answering yes to the other question. Which is what he would do.. he's Eff. But if he replied "no," or the opposite to the word in the question," he would essentially being saying, "no, I would not say yes to that question." That's actually a true statement. He's being honest that he would like to us. So, he has to reply with OZO, given that is the word in the question and the hypothetical is true. So even if that doesn't make sense, you just have to understand that whatever word is in the question, OZO or ULU, that will be the answer IF the hypothetical is *true*, and if the hypothetical is false, the opposite word that isn't in the question will be there answer. When we ask the alien in the middle: If I asked you "Is Are to my left," would you reply OZO? -We have 3 options. We're either talking to Eff, Tee, or Arr. Let's say we get the reply ULU. We know that ULU is the opposite to the word in the question, OZO. So, IF we are talking to Tee or Eff and we get the response ULU, we know that the hypothetical is false. This means, Arr isn't on the left. But if we are talking to Arr, well that means he is also still not on the left, because he's in the middle. IF we get the reply ULU, Arr is eliminated from the left.. meaning it's either Eff or Tee, so we won't get a random answer as a possibility when we ask that alien a question. So, go to the left most Alien. If I were to ask you, "Are you Tee," would you reply OZO? An ozo reply indicates that the hypothetical is true. If it's true, then we are talking to Tee. If it's false, we are talking to Eff. Let's say it's true and we get an ozo reply, so it's Tee. We know one Alien. Now, just ask Tee this: If I were to ask you, "Is the alien in the middle Arr," would you reply OZO? An OZO reply means the middle alien is Arr. An ULU reply means the Alien is Eff. There, you solved it.
Here's by far the easiest way to understand this: To help you understand let's say Ozo means yes and Ulu means no. Then let's say the aliens in order from left to right are: Tee | Eff | Arr The solution to the problem is tricking Eff into always telling the truth by using a double negative. Here's how: If you asked him "is the god to your left Arr?" he would lie and say yes(ozo). So if you instead say "if I asked you if the god to your left were Arr, would you say yes(ozo)?" Since he indeed would have, he would lie again and say no(ulu). We just tricked him into telling the truth. Now if Tee and Eff were switched then the exact same thing would've happened. If you asked Tee "is the god on your left Arr?" he would've told the truth and said no(ulu). So if you asked him "if I asked you if the god on your left were Arr, would you say yes(ozo). He would not have so he would still say no(ulu). So whether Tee or Eff is in the middle either one would've told the truth. So what if you're speaking to Arr? Well then that would mean the one on the left couldn't be Arr of course. The whole point of the first question is just to figure out which of the three is NOT Arr. Which you now know is the one on the left. So now you know that the one on the left is either Tee or Eff, and you know how to trick Eff into telling the truth. So now you ask the one on the left "if I asked you if you were Eff, would you say yes(ozo)?" since it's Tee he would say "no(ulu)". So now you know it's Tee. So now you ask Tee again "is the one in the middle Arr?" Tee would say no(ulu) so you would know the one in the middle must be Eff which means the one on the right must be Arr. Now the reason you don't need to know what Ozo or Ulu means is because you just need to see if they respond with the same word you used or not. If you ask the question with Ozo and they answer with Ozo then they're basically saying yes. If they respond with Ozo when you say Ulu it means no, if they respond with Ulu when you say Ozo it means no. If they respond with Ozo when you say Ozo it means yes. If they respond to Ulu with Ulu it means yes. This whole riddle is basically using negatives and positives from math to solve the problem. If you use a negative, and they use a positive then the solution is negative, or false. If you use a negative and they use a negative then the solution is positive, or true. So now look at the question again "If I asked you if the god on the left is Arr, would you say Ozo?" He replies "Ulu". So you know he's saying the god on the left is NOT Arr. Either he's telling the truth or he IS Arr, either way you know the god on the left isn't Arr, which allows you to figure out the other two. Hope this helps.
Well if she did learn something than, and her answer to “did i learn something” is ozo. that means ozo is yes and ulu is no - So no they did not understand and yes they learned something
Just realized that the names of the gods are, in a way, what they do. "Tee" sounds like T -> True "Eff" sounds like F -> False "Arr" sound like R -> Random
For the fourth and final question when you leave, ask Tee: “Is 2+2=4” If oso means yes, Tee would say oso. If oso means no, Tee would say ulu. You would finally be able to find out what the words mean. It wouldn’t really accomplish anything other than you being fully fluent in the alien language though.
The riddle will make a tiny bit more sense if: you can ask in your own language and the aliens will understand, but they will only answer in their own language which you don't know.
Tbh you could just ask another hypothetical question to find out if it's a long way to Earth without knowing if ozo is yes or no. "Tee, If I asked you 'is it a long way to Earth?' Would you answer ozo?" If ozo, statement is true, it's a long way till Earth. If ulu, hooray! Earth isn't that far away!
the answer is give each one an artifact, check and see if they are appeased, if not, load from previous save file, and try another combination of artifacts there are 3 artifacts (or sequences) to choose from, should take 4 or 5 tries. then exit planet.
I am the math teacher. Ozo = x^2 x pi. No solution. But.... if I told you there was, what would it be, yes or no? Ozo means yes, while ulu means no. This is solved by asking if Tee's name is Tee, and whatever he responds with is yes. By mentioning his name, he will respond truthfully. He responds Ozo, which is now yes. This identifies Tee, and solves for Ozo. Now, you mention Eff and pick a answer where you know if it is yes or no. This finds Eff and can lead to maybe discoveries and other possibilities. You then find Arr, and ask Tee if you this is the correct overlords' names.
@@anon8510 Hmm, I believe your right actually. An order directs while a statement tells you about a subject. I stand corrected. An Order is what I wanted to say. Thanks.
i love how at the end when that narrator says that u still dont know what means and it zooms in on you, you just have this "dead-inside" smile like, screw my existance
Got my pen and paper ready to work out all the possibilities and then when he mentioned that we do not the word used for 'yes' and 'no', I did not even hesitate or think and just skipped to the solution.
I just realised that you could determine which word means "yes" and which word means "no" with your final (fourth) question There are several ways to go about this, but the simplest is asking Tee whether or not he is Tee Do not add a hypothetical statement to this question, simply ask Tee, "Are you Tee?" Since we know the question is true and Tee always answers truthfully, there are only two possible outcomes: 1) Tee answers "ozo". Therefore, "ozo" means "yes" and "ulu" means "no" 2) Tee answers "ulu". Therefore, "ulu" means "yes" and "ozo" means "no"
it is funny how at the end both you and the narrator have forgotten the key premise to this riddle. If you would ask Tee (or Eff, doesn't matter actually) the question "If I would ask you, whether Ozo means yes, would you answer Ozo?" and they would actually answer Ozo, then you know that your hypothetical question was true and Ozo really means yes. If they reply with Ulu your question was wrong and Ozo means no: "proof": suppose O=⊤ (yes/true/top): F(F(O=⊤)=O) F(F(⊤=⊤)=⊤) F(F(⊤)=⊤) F(⊥=⊤) F(⊥) ⊤ suppose O=⊥ (no/false/bottom): F(F(O=⊤)=O) F(F(⊥=⊤)=⊤) F(F(⊥)=⊤) F(⊤=⊤) F(⊤) ⊥
@Floki fair enough, though from the six rules you are not limited on what to ask the aliens as long as it is a yes or no question, so my proposed question is still one that she could ask. In other versions of this riddle the introduction is done a bit different and the aliens do understand your language, but can only talk in their own. I guess that is where the ambiguity in the rules emerges from. Alternatively you could also ask Tee, after having identified all aliens, if he is Tee and his answer will tell you whether Ozo or Ulu means yes.
For anyone who still doesn't get it: You are asking the guy in the middle a question, assume it's either Tee or Eff and we'll deal with Arr later. You ask: If I asked you "Is the guy on the left Arr" would you say ozo? If you are talking to Tee -if the guy on the left is truly Arr -If ozo means yes, Tee would say ozo as in Yes, I would answer yes. -If ozo means no, Tee would say ozo as in No, I wouldn't answer no. -If the guy on the left is not Arr -If ulu means yes, Tee would say ulu as in Yes, I would say no (ozo means no in the case and it's true because the guy is not Arr) -If ulu means no, Tee would say ulu as in No, I wouldn't answer yes (because he wouldn't lie) If you are talking to Eff -If the guy on the left is Arr -If ozo means yes, Eff would say ozo as in Yes, I would answer yes (he wouldn't, but that's the point, he lies) -If ozo means no, Eff would say ozo as in No, I wouldn't say no (he would, again he lies) -If the guy on the left is not Arr -If ulu means yes, Eff would say ulu as in Yes, I would answer no (because now ozo means no, but he wouldn't say no because then it's not a lie) -If ulu means no, Eff would say ulu as in No, I wouldn't answer yes (he would because that would be the lie) So there you can see how if you formulate the first question: If i asked you "Is the guy in the left Arr" would you answer ozo? Then both Tee and Eff would say ozo if it's Arr on the left, also both would say ulu if it's not the guy on the left. So you simply go to the other guy (if you know it's Arr on the left go to the one on the right, if its not the one on the left go him). Now you may wonder, what if Arr is in the middle? Well then it doesn't matter, simply follow the instructions above and no matter what answers you get and to which god you end up it will not be Arr, which is what you are trying to achive. Next question: If I asked you "Are you Eff" would you answer ozo? If you are talking with Eff -If ozo means yes, Eff would say ozo as in Yes, I would say yes (but he wouldn't because he would lie) -If ozo means no, Eff would say ozo as in No, I wouldn't say no (but he would because that's the lie) If you are talking to Tee -If ozo means yes, Tee would say ulu as in No, I wouldn't say yes (because he doesn't lie) -if ozo means no, Tee would say ulu as in Yes, I would say no (because he is not Eff and he wouldn't lie) So, now you see the meanings of ozo and ulu don't matter, if you get an answer ozo you are talking to Eff, if you get an answer ulu you are talking to Tee. Now knowing wether you will get lies or truths simply ask: If I asked you "Is the guy in the middle Arr" would you say ozo? If it is Arr in the middle -If you know you are talking to Eff -If ozo means yes, Eff would say ozo as in Yes, I would say yes (he wouldn't) -If ozo means no, Eff would say ozo as in No, I wouldn't say no (but he would) -If you know you are talking to Tee -if ozo means yes, Tee would say ozo as in Yes, I would say yes -if ozo means no, Tee would say ozo as in No, I wouldn't say no If Arr is not the one in the middle -If you know you are talking to Eff -If ozo means yes, Eff would say ulu as in No, I wouldn't yes (but he would) -if ozo means no, Eff would say ulu as in Yes, I would say no (but he wouldn't) -If you know you are talking to Tee -If ozo means yes, Tee would say ulu as in No, I wouldn't say yes (he wouldn't lie) -if ozo means no, Tee would say ulu as in Yes, I would say no (because now ozo means no) So now if you get an answer ozo, that means Arr is in the middle. If the answer is ulu, Arr is the third god. Since you already know wether you are speaking to Tee or Eff and you know who Arr is, now you will know who the last god is.
@Miroslav Mandic Logically, it's possible that Arr give you the same answer for indefinitely many times in a row. So your way is not right. This is a "logical" paradox. You have to come up with a logically necessary solution.
@Miroslav Mandic since there's a 50/50 chance, it's not PROBABLE, but certainly it is POSSIBLE. Think of it this way, if you ask arr the same question 10 times, and he answers ozo, ozo, ozo, ulu, ozo, ulu, ulu, ozo, ulu, ulu; and you count how many ozo's and ulu's he answered,it's five each. But inside those 10 times, he repeated ozo 3 times straight. If he casually does this on your 3 chances to question (wich he could, because it's random every time) he would still maintain the 50/50 proportion, but would've answered you 3 times the same thing, so you cannot trust arr to give you different answers every time: randomness of that kind in practice tends to a distribution, but in theory it could be always ozo infinite times, or an least 3 times. You won't be sure, so you shouldn't bet your life on it.
Long-winded breakdown of why you don't need to know the exact meaning of "OZO" and "ULU", and why Arr doesn't prevent a solution (the first part is pretty much a reiteration of the video, but at the end I try to explain my understanding of it): Tee (T) tells the truth Eff (F) tells a lie Arr (R) answers randomly Question: "If I asked you whether 2+2=4 (known true), would you say 'OZO' (unknown meaning)?" IF "OZO" = "Yes" AND "ULU" = "No" Answers: T: "OZO" F: "OZO" (He would say "ULU" to the embedded question, so he denies this and says "OZO".) IF "ULU" = "Yes" AND "OZO" = "No" Answers: T: "OZO" F: "OZO" (Yes, he would say "OZO" to the embedded question, so he denies this and says "OZO".) Like this: - Q to F: "Does 2+2=4?: - F: "OZO" - Q to F: "If I asked you whether 2+2=4, would you say 'OZO'?" - F: "OZO" (Must lie about his previous answer and deny that he WOULD say "OZO", but because "OZO" means "No" in this example, he uses the word "OZO" in order to deny it.) Question: "If I asked you whether 2+2=5 (known false), would you say 'OZO' (unknown meaning)?" (Assuming the year is not 1984) IF "OZO" = "Yes" AND "ULU" = "No" Answers: T: "ULU" F: "ULU" IF "ULU" = "Yes" AND "OZO" = "No" Answers: T: "ULU" F: "ULU" Question: "If I asked you whether the overlord on my left is Arr (unknown), would you answer 'OZO' (unknown meaning)?" IF "OZO" = "Yes" AND "ULU" = "No", AND Arr IS to the left Answers: T: "OZO" F: "OZO" IF "ULU" = "Yes" AND "OZO" = "No", AND Arr IS to the left Answers: T: "OZO" F: "OZO" IF "OZO" = "Yes" AND "ULU" = "No", AND Arr IS NOT to the left Answers: T: "ULU" F: "ULU" IF "ULU" = "Yes" AND "OZO" = "No", AND Arr IS NOT to the left Answers: T: "ULU" F: "ULU" ~ So you aren't finding out the meaning of the words, but you ARE determining the validity of your embedded question. You know that an answer of "OZO" from Tee or Eff means that the embedded question is true, and an answer of "ULU" from them means that the embedded question is false. On to the matter of determining order. Posed to the middle alien, the first question is this: "If I asked you whether the overlord on my left is Arr (unknown), would you answer 'OZO' (unknown meaning)?" This question isn't about confirming who IS Arr, it's about confirming who IS NOT Arr. If Arr is on either side, the first alien you're talking to must be Tee/Eff and you'd then know for sure where Arr is based on their answer. If Arr is in the middle, then the answer he gives would still point you in the correct direction because he ISN'T on either side. If Arr says "OZO" randomly, you would now be choosing between left and middle alien. If Arr says "ULU" randomly, you would be choosing between right and middle alien. Either way, you've determined the two spots where Arr COULD be and, more importantly, the one where he definitely COULDN'T be. Originally, I was confused because it seemed like this solution required starting with Tee/Eff for sure, and already knowing which side Arr is on so you can formulate your question accordingly and know that you wouldn't be getting a random answer. However, getting a random answer isn't as much of a wrench in the works as I first thought, because that in itself can be used to make an elimination as Arr can't be in two places at once. I'm not claiming to be an expert logician or anything and I admit that I could definitely be wrong, but that's my understanding of this riddle. In my opinion, the hardest part to understand is the fact that Arr answering randomly doesn't prevent you from being able to find the correct answer, so I decided to post how I worked through it in case it might be a help to anyone else. :)
Tysmm originally i didn’t understand a thing but now i understand a bit :)) But you’re right the hardest part to understand is the fact that Arr answering randomly doesn’t prevent u from being able to find the correct answer - i still don’t understand (going crazy rn 😫😫😫)
@@JustAnotherHumanBeing980 I know! It's crazy how hard it is to make one's brain work through it 😂 I would say the two biggest things are that: 1) Tee or Eff answering with "OZO" for sure means your embedded question is true, while an answer of "ULU" from Tee or Eff for sure means the embedded question is false 2) Arr can't be in two places at once. If Arr is in the middle and he answers your question randomly, he's telling you that Arr is not on a certain side, which is true because you're talking to him right now in the middle. While this information may come in the form of him lying and saying Arr IS located on a certain side, that still gets you in the correct direction because you've eliminated a position where he couldn't be either way. (If, answering randomly, he indicates that Arr is on the left, you'll eliminate the possibility of him being on the right. It is true that he is not on the right: he is currently in the middle.) And if you're talking to Tee/Eff in the middle, then your problems are solved anyway hahah Maybe that helped a little? Hopefully it did 😅
@@jrod9647 There’s another riddle where u have to confirm u have green eyes so u can ask to leave without the possibility of being thrown into a volcano. This video is commonly referenced because it has a silly plot.
That would be a 1/6 chance: 1/3, that you are talking to Tee times 1/2, that ozo is yes (edit: in CASE you get 3 times ozo, so it's actually even worse xD.) Now what's funny about that is: if you just randomly shuffled the artifacts and gave them to the aliens, that would also just be a 1/6 chance (ABC, ACB, BAC, BCA, CAB, CBA). So nothing was gained. Coincidence? I think ulu ^^
The one saying "no" or lying, realizes he is lying and tells the truth. Seriously. Is 2+2=4? Truth - yes Liar - no...but realizes he is lying so says "yes" for some reason
If asked "If I asked you if 2+2=4, would you respond 'ozo'?", it doesn't matter what "ozo" and "ulu" actually mean. Tee's response would be straight forward. If "ozo" meant yes, he would truthfully reply "yes", since he would in fact say yes to the condition. Eff, however would actually respond no to the condition, due to him always lying. So since he would actually respond "no", he instead responds "yes" to being asked if he would respond "yes" to the question. This means in either case, they would both respond "ozo", since we assume here "ozo" means "yes." Let's assume instead that "ozo" means "no." In that case Tee, who would normally respond "yes" to the condition, responds "no", since he would not say "no" to the condition. Eff, on the other hand, would normally say "no" to the condition. Therefore, if asked if he would respond "no", he would lie and say "no" to the question, since he actually would say "no" to the condition. Either way, the would still respond "ozo" to the question, based on our assumption. Because of all of this, no matter if we ask Tee or Eff, or if "ozo" means "yes" or "no", both of them will respond "ozo" if the condition is true, and "ulu" if the condition is false. This doesn't help us with Arr, since his response is random, but that's what the rest of the video is for.
step 1: leave step 2: get a degree in english teaching step 3: teach "yes" and "no" to the overlords step 4: overlords are satisfied and let you leave step 5: oh wait a second
So the part that is confusing is about Ozo being either “Yes” or “No”. But the thing is that doesn’t matter. What is important to know is that receiving Ozo equates to the imbedded question being “True” and receiving Ulu equates to “False”. True and False are not the same as Yes and No, respectively. Hence, the meaning of the words does not matter. So regardless if you ask the question to Tee, Eff or Arr, if you receive Ozo as the answer it means the imbedded question is True and if the answer is Ulu that means it’s False.
@@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn But the whole point about the first question is to guarantee that you ask the secodn and third questions to someone who isn't Arr. If Arr is on one of the sides then the first question will direct you to the side whe he isn't. If Arr is in the middle then the first question doesn't matter because you're always asking the second and third questions to one of the sides.
There is a major mistake . Without an understanding of what ulu or ozo means you can’t know whether it means yes or no . Since you can only ask 3 questions, and using the questions he used , you wouldn’t be able to figure out what ulu or ozo mean and therefore cannot figure out the identities of the aliens
They kind of breeze through that part but it's not true they assumed Tee or Eff are in the middle. Asking Alien#2: "If I asked you 'is Alien #1 Arr' would you say 'ozo'" . Assume they say ozo to this question. Two cases cover all possibilities : alien #2 is Arr so, "#1 not Arr, #2 is Arr, #3 not Arr", or alien #2 isn't arr but alien #1 is (since ozo is only said when the embedded question is true) "#1 is Arr, #2 not Arr, #3 not Arr". So those are all the possible case but notice in *both* of them #3 not Arr! Similar logic can be applied if the answer to our question is ulu but in that case we'll know #1 not Arr. Either way we now know one alien that definitely isn't Arr!
Ozo = x^2 x pi. No solution. But.... if I told you there was, what would it be, yes or no? Ozo means yes, while ulu means no. This is solved by asking if Tee's name is Tee, and whatever he responds with is yes. By mentioning his name, he will respond truthfully. He responds Ozo, which is now yes. This identifies Tee, and solves for Ozo. Now, you mention Eff and pick a answer where you know if it is yes or no. This finds Eff and can lead to maybe discoveries and other possibilities. You then find Arr, and ask Tee if you this is the correct overlords' names.
"You have deciphered enough of their language to ask them any three questions. *Except, you don't know the two simplest words to learn in every single language, yes and no."*
There is an alternative version of this puzzle which says that they can understand you but will only answer in their own language, which is much more plausible
Guys, so basically For explanations sake ill use: Truth for tee False for eff Random for Arr 1. First part: Regardless of what ozo and ulu means, we can always get *ozo* (from either true or false) as the answer if we were to use the construction: “If ____ would you answer ozo” And the same for ulu By this logic, we’ve established that using the exact question construction above we can always know that ozo = yes. Now set that question construction aside for later use 2. Second part: Question 1: use the first question to determine where either truth and false are so that we can ask them the question construct above first part. Note that random isnt a problem because we would always have an answer that determines where true or false are and where random isnt in If ozo: guy on the right is either true or false If ulu: guy on the left is either true or false Question 2: Since we’ve established that either left or right are true or false ask them the same question construction on part one and identify whom they are between true or false Question 3: Now that we know who the first alien is (either true or false), we can then ask them where random is with 100% accuracy given (again) the first part question construction. And then the last alien would of course be the alien who isnt identified yet
Ozo = x^2 x pi. No solution. But.... if I told you there was, what would it be, yes or no? Ozo means yes, while ulu means no. This is solved by asking if Tee's name is Tee, and whatever he responds with is yes. By mentioning his name, he will respond truthfully. He responds Ozo, which is now yes. This identifies Tee, and solves for Ozo. Now, you mention Eff and pick a answer where you know if it is yes or no. This finds Eff and can lead to maybe discoveries and other possibilities. You then find Arr, and ask Tee if you this is the correct overlords' names. I solved it.
Wait so, do the aliens explode your face off if you give them the wrong artifact? Because you could just give the artifacts to each one and switch them if the aliens are not happy.
This is how ChatGPT have answered question about my solution:: ChatGPT. Your analysis is astute. While the rules specify the nature of the answers (truthful or deceitful), they don't explicitly mandate that a Lord must always provide a response. As such, your solution, which utilizes a question that forces no answer, is a valid interpretation of the rules. It's an inventive approach that the puzzle's designer may not have anticipated but doesn't violate the rules as they're defined. Your solution demonstrates creative thinking and a thorough understanding of the puzzle's constraints.
Finally after racking my brain for 2 completely hours I got the algorithm. Tip : take Tee and Eff as a binary Operation and the Embedded question as a Function F(x) each time you put a hypothetical question which is true the binary operations will work accordingly. Without embedding function inside a function. eg. Tee is a operator which takes a correct input and gives output as true or takes incorrect input and gives output as false. Same for Eff -> take a correct input and produces output as false, but when given incorrect input produces it as True. You can do the same algorithm with embedded functions. 1st step when u found one of the 3 values that isn’t the isolated value, after this it is all about eliminating.
I would ask the middle alien: "If I were to ask Arr if he is Tee, would he say ozo?" Neither a liar nor a truth-teller could answer for sure, since they could not predict his random answer with completely true or false certainty. If he did answer ozo or ulu, then I'd know it was Arr...otherwise, the other two would be stuck in a logical hyper loop and be unable to answer. If he was silent. I'd ask him "If I were to ask Tee if he were Eff, would he say ozo? If he said ozo, then I'd know I was talking to Eff. If he said ulu, then I'd know I was talking to Tee. Then I'd know which question to ask to find out who was on his left; and figure out by process of elimination who was on his right.
Ozo = x^2 x pi. No solution. But.... if I told you there was, what would it be, yes or no? Ozo means yes, while ulu means no. This is solved by asking if Tee's name is Tee, and whatever he responds with is yes. By mentioning his name, he will respond truthfully. He responds Ozo, which is now yes. This identifies Tee, and solves for Ozo. Now, you mention Eff and pick a answer where you know if it is yes or no. This finds Eff and can lead to maybe discoveries and other possibilities. You then find Arr, and ask Tee if you this is the correct overlords' names.
As far as I'm concerned, this is a lot better solution than that in the vdo since TedEd's solution only works on the condition that you were lucky enough that the first alien you asked wasn't R. Otherwise, your question would be useless.
*Simple Explanation:* If I say 2+2 = 4, would you have answered ozo? • If ozo = yes T: yes I would answer ozo (yes) bc 2+2 =4 F: i f you asked 2+2= 4 would've said ulu (no), so since I gotta lie to you about what I would've said, I'm gonna say ozo • If ozo = no so ulu = yes: same thing but they'd both say ulu T: no I wouldn't say ozo bc the statement is wrong F: well yeah I would've said yes, but since I wanna lie to you about what I would've said, I'll say ulu So T & F will confirm your statement. • If R is in the middle and you ask him if the one on his left is R then whatever he says doesn't matter. But he'd be in the middle. So the one on the left isn't R. • If the middle one isn't R, they'll either confirm or deny your statement that R is the one on his left. Hence you'll know for eg here that R is on the right. Either way, he's either in the middle or where that alien told you he is. So you just ask the opposite sided alien about his identity. He'll confirm your statement insinuating that he is or isn't T or F. Then you ask him basically to confirm your statement about which alien is in the middle
If both F and T give the same answer then how does that help know if 1) the statement is true or false or 2) which alien I am talking to? That question would not have given me any useful information. Especially if I accidentally asked it of R.
@@astarajarvis9965 you're asking "if I tell you 2+2 =4, would you say ozo?" So basically you know that the statement is true and both will answer yes so whatever they say will mean "true" 2) you're only talking to the first alien so you can talk to another one and make sure he's not R. Basically you just ask the guy in the middle about the one to his left, then you ask the one to his left if his statement is true. If one of them is R, you'll get your statement verified by the other one
Tbh your explanation is easiest among youtube comments to understand for me, but it's because the particular way of your writing. Thank you. Ultimately this riddle it boils down to semantics, since I have troubles getting the part where Eff says the same thing as Tee regardless of the meanings of Ozo/Ulu.
Ahh! It's the double negative that's throwing people off, I think. It was for me anyway. "No, I would not say no" is an indirect affirmative. It's saying "yes" without actually saying it. Pretty sneaky, sis.
Usually, this riddle is explained by simplifying it first: you only have two aliens, Tee and Eff, and you know what "yes" or "no" means. From there you get to, "what would your partner say if I asked ..." And then you can make it more complicated step by step.
Giochay77 assuming you’re talking about the 2 guys riddle where one always tells the truth and one always lies, you only get one question and you don’t know who is standing in front of what thing. You have to ask a question that will give you the right choice, no matter who you ask.
So both tee and eff would answer ozo if the statement in the question is true, and would answer ulu if the statement was false, that way they can rule out one alien that isn’t arr, and asks for their identify and phrase the 3rd question based on the known identity.
@@Hange. If you asked arr the first question, it wouldn't matter what his answer is because the purpose of the 1st question is to find who you're 100% sure isn't arr based on their response.
@@Hange. If "statement is true", would you answer ozo? Assuming ozo means yes: Tee: Statement is true, so ozo. Eff: Statement is true, but eff will give false answer, so he would have answered ulu to the statement, but the point of the question isn't whether the statement is true or false, it's on which answer they'll give, since eff will answer ulu, he changes the answer to ozo. Assuming ozo means no: Tee: Tee would've answered yes (ulu) it's true, so he answers no (ozo). Eff: Eff would've answer no (ozo), so his truthful answer would be ulu to the entire question, eff being eff he changes the answer to ozo. Now if "statement is false", would you answer ozo? If ozo means yes: Tee would say no (ulu) because it's false. Eff would say ozo to the statement, so when he's asked if he would answer ozo, he falsifies and answers ulu. If ozo means no: Tee answers ulu (yes) because the statement is false. Eff would say ulu to the statement, so when asked if he would answer ozo, he falsifies and answers ulu. From both scenarios we can conclude that if the statement is true, tee and eff would answer ozo (same answer you include in your whole question), if it's false, they'll both answer ulu (different answer in your whole question). Then you can work your statements around eliminating arr, so you can get straight forward answers from either Tee or eff.
@@Ng1Brad I still didn't actually understand it but ok😅😅 it's night so maybe my mind isn't working or I just have to ask someone who speaks same language as mine.. but thank you so so much for taking your time to explain it to me💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
its simple you just ask: all three lords, are you the true lord? and the two that have the same answer if ozo or ulu are true and false one and you work out that the other is random. then that answer they replied with either ozo or ulu is yes. so you ask a question that you know the answer to for example: is 1 + 1 = 2, the one that replies with the same answer as the last question is tee and the one that has a different answer is eff and the other is arr.
It's all in the language of the question. Ur question starts with IF I asked you (question) would you say OZO? And by actually inserting the word OZO into the question you never need to know whether OZO is yes or no.
+Rostin, but because we can't know who Arr is, the logic seems to break down unless I'm missing something. Our first question tries to get yes and no, but the next question seems to need that information.
If you know who Tee and Eff are, then you know the remaining is Arr. I haven't watched the rest of it, I'm stuck at the "figure it out yourself" part, and I think it revolves around asking Tee 2 questions, and Eff 1 question. More study required. So apparently my theory wasn't right. I didn't know we were doing loaded questions, I just figured it was a simple "are you eff" and corroborating the answers from there.
Looks like this video needs an FAQ: *Why don't you just ask what ulu and ozo mean?* You only get three questions. Since you can sidestep this issue, that would be a waste of a question. Also, the aliens don't speak English. That's why you had to decipher their language to begin with. The video is in English so _you_ can understand it. *But the video has four questions?* The math problem is just an example. It has nothing to do with the solution. *Wouldn't Tee and Eff give different answers?* No. It has to do with the nature of the embedded questions. The liar would lie to the embedded question but lie about lying to the full question as it's phrased. Think about the question: "If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say 'yes'?" The liar would say "no" to "Does 2 + 2 = 4?" but say "yes" if asked about how he would answer that question. *How do you get around not knowing what ulu and ozo mean?* If the word in your question matches the response then the embedded statement is true and if they don't then it's false regardless of what ulu and ozo actually mean. Think of it this way: If *true* then *true* = *true* if *true* then *false* = *false* if *false* then *false* = *true* if *false* then *true* = *false* Let's look at some examples: "If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say 'yes'?" "Yes." "If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say 'no'?" "No." "If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 7, would you say 'yes'?" "No." "If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 7, would you say 'No'?" "Yes." Notice the "yeses" and "nos" match in true statements and are different in false statements. You don't need to know what each one actually means. *Doesn't the whole thing depend on you not asking Arr the first question?* No. If you're not talking to Arr then he's pointing you in the direction of Arr. The other possibility is that you are talking to Arr. Since there are _three_ aliens and only _two_ possible locations for Arr, there's one alien who definitely _isn't_ Arr.
“You and your team have crash landed on a ancient planet”
Good to know my team consists of me and a dog
Lol ikr
Lol ikr
Lol ikr
Lol I right no?
Lol ikr?
Thank God we landed next to that rock engraved with the information we needed.
And that too in English
all three of them
@@valroz no they can be in the alien language cause you understand the language but not what Ulu or Ozo mean
but it sure is unfortunate that we crash landed on a planet with 3 aliens that have certain tendencies to lie and tell the truth, and that we know the entire alien language except for yes and no, and that we can only ask three yes or no questions, and that the aliens only respond with ozo and ulu.
The original one was about gods and the gods understand your language but can only reply with Olu or Ozo
Me: knows entire alien language
Also me: doesn't know the difference between yes and no
*bruh moment*
There is an alternative version of this puzzle that says they understand English but will always answer in their own language, which makes it more plausible
MayBeBasic LMFAOO
It’s like latin, there are hardly any ways to greet someone but there are a lot of insults lol
Adrija Rambhatla
LOGIC
an explanation;
the gist of this whole riddle is to emphasize the power of a double negative. we can obtain all the information we need from these gods using double negatives, without even knowing the meaning of the answer or the how truthful it is.
understanding why tee and eff will give their given answers is the easy part, at least when we are asking questions we know whether or not are true or false. i think when we try to get answers we dont already know, thats when it gets difficult and we get lost in the sauce.
instead of ozo and ulu, ill use x and y for simplicity, with ozo=x and ulu=y.
if the embedded question is true, no matter what x or y is, what we ask is going to either give a double positive or negative.
(if i ask you whether or not the sky is blue, would you answer x?)
when x=yes
tee -> x!
eff -> x! (to the question itself, it would answer y)
when x=no
tee -> x!
eff -> x! (lies about lying to the embedded question.)
the important part here is to realize they both responded x because the embedded question was true.
what would happen if it was false?
(if asked you whether or not the sky is red, would you answer x?)
when x=yes
tee -> y!
eff -> y! (would say x to embedded question)
when x=no
tee -> y!
eff -> y! (would say x to embedded question.)
the takeaway is _when our embedded question is true,_ irregardless of what x or y is, we will get that same variable we put in our question back from them. thats the only thing all that x and y mess above told us thats important.
now that we know what the answers to true and false questions look like, we can use the gods responses to see whether or not their responses match a true or false embedded statement. look;
if i asked you whether *abc,* would you answer x?
if a god responds -> x
then we have proved above that abc must be a true statement, and we learned something new!
if a god responds -> y
then we have proved that abc must be false. just scroll up!
now we use statements on the position of the gods to get them to sell each other out!
but do not lost sight of the big picture- we dont care what ozo and ulu are! we dont need to! it doesnt matter! what matters is _if your embedded question is true!_
Underappreciated detailed explaination
@@dariosabatini7053 thank you, i put it here to remind myself when i rewatch it
Now i finally understand it after all these years, thank you
Thanks macha
This is the best explanation of this puzzle
>this riddle has been called the hardest logic puzzle ever
>pause here if you want to figure it out for yourself!
Excuse me who do you think I am
Noah Lomu We thought you're Noah Lomu 😂
I've gone through comments and this is the best answer yet Noah lmao
Noah Lomu an asian
Noah Lomu lol!!😂😂
Noah Lomu lol
"So.. can you solve the riddle?"
"Well ozo, but actually ulu"
You could have just made this meme 100 times better or ruined it forever
I approve
Well, no but actually yes
Well ulu, but actually ozo
This right here is a fantastic comment congrats
Johnny zoo is yes then?
I can't imagine being able to decipher an entire alien language to the point I can ask any question but not able to translate "yes" and "no".
I saw another version of this puzzle saying that they understand you but will only answer in their own language, which is a lot more plausible
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz also, if you have to ask a question in their language, you won't be able to ask "if 'ozo' means 'yes', ..."
since you don't know how to say 'yes' in their language.
You'd have to ask something like "if 'ozo' means 'ozo', ..."
which can't give you any useful information.
yes
@@ВладиславКравченко-с4л Unless you ask Eff if 'Ozo' means 'Ozo', then he would have to lie and say 'Ulu'.
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz Where?
I tried for HOURS to solve this and honestly I'm proud of myself for how much I figured out, even though I never got to the full solution
Good on you. I gave up pretty quickly.
my brain hurts from this one
Yeah, I managed to get there with 9 questions
We're proud of you too... Because I didn't even fully understand the explained solution... 😂😂😂
@@amac9044same😭
TED-Ed: Did you solve the puzzle?
Me: Ozo.
OZO
Lol
From that logic, I can conclude that ozo means no
Leon Han Lol
Ôz
"Can you solve the riddle-"
Simply understanding the solution is an achievement, let alone trying to make your own solution
Yeah, thought we knew who the overlords were just not which artifact they wanted
1/0=planet: OH GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Exactly.. I think of myself as pretty good riddle solver but this one... I was really happy I understood the solution :D I had simply no idea how to solve it.
took me one hour in my head to check every possiblity LMAO
This explanation is really bad. In the example solve, it says “you could be talking to R but lets assume not.”
Me: So. How much complexity do you wanna put in a single 4-minutes video?
TED-Ed: Ozo.
Well ozo but actually ulu
Well ozo but actually ozo
Well ulu but actually ulu
@NovaSys I was waiting for someone to send this👀 now the possibilities of this question are complete 🔥👌🏽
@NovaSys 👌🏽🤗 this meme will be eternal because of us🎉
I couldn't understand it at first, but now that it has been explained i still can't
😂😂
So if They say ulu they are r since in the first question only t, f say ozo????
it makes it more confusing that he asked the aliens 4 questions and then got a bonus question at the end in a problem that says you can only ask 3 questions
@@hgriff14 forget the bonus question.
It's understandable if you write it down or deduct backwards.
If you ask Eff such questions and he tells you ozo. That means he's actual answer is in fact not ozo but ulu.
Ulu( his real answer to the embedded question) is also a lie.
And this depends on the embedded question.
So if your embedded question is a true one. Edd would lie it's false(ulu) and lie that his intended answer is ozo(so he'd say ozo my answer was ozo)
It took me forever to get it too, I can try to explain it more clearly...
Framing a question like "if I asked you this, would you answer this" would result in the same answer for both Tee and Eff every time.
This is because Tee would be honest with you. And Eff would lie about lying to you. Their answers would therefore match on either yes or no.
This essentially turns Eff into a second Tee.
Tee - "Yes I would tell you."
Eff - "Yes I would tell you." (I'm still lying because I wouldn't tell you)
“You and your team have crash landed on an ancient planet”
**9 year old girl and a dog walk out of the space ship**
you're
Xanthopathy yogurt*
Xanthopathy Your actually not you’re
Yes so weird
I used to have that exact same profile pic for discord
*Me* : If I asked you if Schrödinger's cat is alive, would you say OZO?
*Alien overlords* : * visible confusion *
Ozoulu HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
This one was best
😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
Well Ozo. but actually ulu
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oozullu
I guess that's what the answer is
Ted-ed: “Can you solve the riddle?”
Me: *”No. I am here for the answer.”*
i cant even understand the answer
Avneet Singh same
Just say ulu
@@autumnveir1168 ozo
Its actually not overly difficult to solve or understand the answer if you have a good knowledge of bool's algebra and good experience in problem solving. Otherwise, however, it is incredibly difficult
After seven years, I am proud to say that I finally understand the solution to this riddle (although I would still have no clue how to solve the riddle independently)
"You and your team"
*you and a dog walk off the ship*
XD
You and a human walks off the ship*
Nonono a five year old and a dog
@@monticha3274 good point
@@tlgk7697
*Law and Order theme*
Little did you know, TEE helped to repair ship as he promised, EFF lied about fixing your ship and messed up your navigation system instead, while ARR left a timed bomb as a gift.
555 To The 666 And the bomb only explodes when the timer says 0, but the timer only shows random numbers.
lol. Considering their nature (one honest, one lies, one unreliable), they could do something like that.
555 To The 666 ARR= WILDCARD (Like Charlie day in its always sunny 🤣)
Yea, but even as the ship got f%cked, You got Yourself killed before You found it out, because You asked the 4th question - how far is earth at the end of video...
555 To The 666 PLOT TWIST
imagine if you solved all of that and you ask tee “is it a long way to earth?” and tee just replies “yes.”
You could ask him a question that you already know the answer to, so you would then know which word meant which
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz yeah i get that aha but like its that he could talk english the whole time lmao
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz Yeah but then you’d be out of questions and it wouldn’t do you any good because you couldn’t ask anything else.
@@chriswebster24 well since any other question wouldn't yield useful I formation either might as well ask that so you don't beat yourself up for the rest of your life because you don't know it lol
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz but you do not know if it is Tee or Eff or Arr
2:15 It would be better to explain this by not using ozo or ulu. For example: “If I asked you if 2+2=4, would you say yes?” To the embedded question, Tee would say yes. Tee would reply to your question and say “Yes, I would say yes if you asked me if 2+2=4.”
The rules state that Eff always lies. It doesn’t imply that Eff would say the opposite of Tee or vice versa. To the embedded question, Eff would say no. If he said “No, I would say no to 2+2=4.”, that means he said something true, which contradicts his rule of lying. Instead, he would lie and say “Yes, I would say yes to 2+2=4.”
Reverse example: “If I asked you if 2+2=4, would you say no?” To the embedded question, Tee would say no, so Tee replies and says “No, I would say yes to 2+2=4.” Eff, again, would tell the truth and break his lying rule if he says “Yes, I would say no to 2+2=4.” So he would have to say “No, I would say yes to 2+2=4.”
But they don't speak english, how could they answer Yes, the fact that you don't know what they are saying is a big part of the problem
Thank you Mark! I can visualise better with your explanation!
Too much explaning
@@Zurpador164 It's just an addition in their answer to make the answer easier to understand, the first word "Yes" and "No" in their can be replaced with ozo and ulu
Danke
Ted-Ed: did you solve the hardest puzzle in the world with only 1 brain cell in just 3 seconds?
Me:
Ü̶̢̡̡̮̣̣͇͙͎̩̼̺̺͐̀l̶͉͙͚͙̳͉̣̦̟̲̱̰̱͈̦̤͚̽̀́͑͆̊̀̎́͛́̋̔̈́͛̏́͜͝͝z̶̛̺̠̝̙̜̼͒̏́͒͌̑͊͑̒̿͆̒͂͜͠͝o̶̺̥̓͋͗́́̓̉͘̕͠͝͝͝
̵͇͔̳̣̥͉͎̱͒̌͛̉͆̊̀
Me: uwu
Why does this comment not have many likes? lmao
@Isaac Wang nope, at least 1k
They say to pause the video haha
EYYYYYYY LETS GO I'M LIKE NUMBER 1000
You explained it to me but now I need someone to explain the explanation.
It's not super intuitive; you just have to check each case.
Ask T: If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say yes?
answer is yes
Ask T: If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say no?
answer is no
Ask F: If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say yes?
F would answer 2 + 2 = 4 with no, but what you're basically asking is "do you tell the truth?" He'd lie and say yes.
Ask F: If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say no?
What you're basically asking is "Would you tell a lie?" He'd lie and say no.
If you notice, in each case the premise of the question you're asking is true. No matter what word you use, yes or no, or whether you're asking T or F, the alien would match that word. That's the hardest part of the logic puzzle; the rest is elimination.
Galaxy Cat, Destroyer of Worlds what i don't get is that what if you asked your first question from arr? The answer wouldn't even matter cause you don't know if he is lying or not
Galaxy Cat, Destroyer of Worlds you're actually explaining it from the wrong perspective. The key to solving this riddle is to first neglect the fact that the meaning to respective words ozo and ulu, and then use the theory of whether ++ or -- both equals + to ask them questions that is -- and see how the overlords react base on their respective logic. But you started your explanation from assuming the meaning to ozo and ulu, which is very confusing and somehow contradictory to the riddle's core essence.
Caden Campbell omg, lol!! Same 😂😂😂
I ozo understand the explanation
>deciphered an entire alien language
>except two common, crucial words, ozo and ulu
ZHBG 9224 perfect understanding of a language so you can apply double negatives to long sentences, while also using perfect grammar comes with draw backs.
It's not a probable scenario, but it is a logical problem. ;)
Well, you’re either Aladeeen about it or Aladeen about it, but I think you’re Aladeen about it
S. dictator
Yeah ikr, if it's the entire language you already deciphered, why'd you not know of yes or no in their language?
It sounds like a 4chan post
I’m just happy to say, despite not coming up with the answer, I was finally able to completely
Understand the solution after some time. It took a while thought as they brush through that solution so fast without explaining in detail.
It’s pretty remarkable for someone to come up with the full answer. In hindsight, it makes so much sense that question 1 must isolate one that isn’t the random answerer - as no other questions can contain information until you have at least that. But still.. even making that discovery, coming up with that first question is very difficult to do.
But what if the alien in question 1 is r
@@TOMMY-AND-FRIENDSit doesn't matter. The first question either confirms the left or the right isn't R. From there you ask the second question to either the left or the right. The centre doesn't matter.
@@RH-nk7eoi still dont get it, if you accidentally ask Arr the question, that answer is already meaningless, how doesnt it matter ?
@@duyle7831it's because the first question is meant to find whom among the lords at either side isn't r. if youre already talking to r, then neither of the sides are him, so r's random answer doesn't matter since it'll point to a non-r lord either way
@@mli2883 but you still dont know for certain if you're talking to Arr or not?
Imagine how frustrated Eff gets once he realised that he can never truly lie.
His whole Life Will be a lie to him
That's why he's called F. It doesn't stand for False, it's actually because of the swearing.
@@alessioaletta8121 can we get an F in the chat
😂😂
F
The answer got me more confused then the quiston
You spelled question wrong
*than
@Rycupcakes 7783 No comma needed there
@Rycupcakes 7783 make that three
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz You forgot your full stop.
Me as an intellectual: Place all artifacts in front of them allowing them to pick their artifact.
yeah thats totally easier
Ozo = x^2 x pi. No solution. But.... if I told you there was, what would it be, yes or no? Ozo means yes, while ulu means no. This is solved by asking if Tee's name is Tee, and whatever he responds with is yes. By mentioning his name, he will respond truthfully. He responds Ozo, which is now yes. This identifies Tee, and solves for Ozo. Now, you mention Eff and pick a answer where you know if it is yes or no. This finds Eff and can lead to maybe discoveries and other possibilities. You then find Arr, and ask Tee if you this is the correct overlords' names.
R would just take somebody else's artifact, T would whine about it, and F would go full Karen.
@@commandercaptain4664 actually ur right eff would take others artifact not his own
he lie boi right? and arr idk tee would take his own artfact unless eff already took it
The part of double positive and double negative both come out positive is very impressive and help logic
what does it mean?.. i dont get how tee and eff would both answer the same thing to 2+2?..
@@olive4846 the crucial thing here is how the question is put: with that "if I asked you ... would you say ...". tee would say true 2 times. eff will lie 2 times. 2 lies in such case make true.
Well they would answer the same thing because the one who tells the truth would say yes I would tell the truth and the one who lies would say he would too because he's a liar same for the question of if they would lie
I think I lost a few braincells trying to understand this
It's really not that difficult.
If I asked you, "(insert hypothetical question here)," *would you reply "OZO"?*
-If the hypothetical is true, Tee AND Eff will ALWAYS reply OZO
-If the hypothetical is false, Tee AND Eff will always reply ULU.
However, if we swapped out OZO for ULU in our question, everything would be the opposite. Like this:
If I asked you, "(insert hypothetical question here)," *would you reply "ULU"?*
-If the hypothetical is true, Tee AND Eff will ALWAYS reply ULU
-If the hypothetical is false, Tee AND Eff will always reply OZO.
Whatever you decide to put in at "would you reply _____?" will always be the response if the hypothetical is true.
Here's an example:
If I asked you, "Does 2+2=4," would you reply *"OZO"?*
The answer will always be OZO if you're asking Tee or Eff. You could swap out OZO for ULU, though.
If I asked you, "Does 2+2=4," would you reply "ULU"?
Again, Tee and Eff will always reply ULL since the hypothetical is true. If it's false, they'll answer with the opposite word that's in the question.
Let's assume we're talking to Eff.
If I asked you, "Are you Eff," would you reply "OZO"?
Assume OZO = TRUE. You can essentially rewrite the question:
If I asked you, "Are you Eff," would you answer "yes"?
Think about what Eff's reply will be, given that he always lies. If he says "yes, I would say yes," he's lying about answering yes to the other question. Which is what he would do.. he's Eff. But if he replied "no," or the opposite to the word in the question," he would essentially being saying, "no, I would not say yes to that question." That's actually a true statement. He's being honest that he would like to us. So, he has to reply with OZO, given that is the word in the question and the hypothetical is true.
So even if that doesn't make sense, you just have to understand that whatever word is in the question, OZO or ULU, that will be the answer IF the hypothetical is *true*, and if the hypothetical is false, the opposite word that isn't in the question will be there answer.
When we ask the alien in the middle:
If I asked you "Is Are to my left," would you reply OZO?
-We have 3 options. We're either talking to Eff, Tee, or Arr.
Let's say we get the reply ULU. We know that ULU is the opposite to the word in the question, OZO. So, IF we are talking to Tee or Eff and we get the response ULU, we know that the hypothetical is false. This means, Arr isn't on the left. But if we are talking to Arr, well that means he is also still not on the left, because he's in the middle. IF we get the reply ULU, Arr is eliminated from the left.. meaning it's either Eff or Tee, so we won't get a random answer as a possibility when we ask that alien a question. So, go to the left most Alien.
If I were to ask you, "Are you Tee," would you reply OZO?
An ozo reply indicates that the hypothetical is true. If it's true, then we are talking to Tee. If it's false, we are talking to Eff. Let's say it's true and we get an ozo reply, so it's Tee. We know one Alien. Now, just ask Tee this:
If I were to ask you, "Is the alien in the middle Arr," would you reply OZO?
An OZO reply means the middle alien is Arr.
An ULU reply means the Alien is Eff.
There, you solved it.
Jed Miller "It's really not that difficult ...**convoluted 2 page essay**
There, easy!"
Jed Miller but what makes us so true that we are asking either tee or eff , we may talking to err?
@@PJSM94 *oh ok*
Here's by far the easiest way to understand this:
To help you understand let's say Ozo means yes and Ulu means no. Then let's say the aliens in order from left to right are:
Tee | Eff | Arr
The solution to the problem is tricking Eff into always telling the truth by using a double negative. Here's how: If you asked him "is the god to your left Arr?" he would lie and say yes(ozo). So if you instead say "if I asked you if the god to your left were Arr, would you say yes(ozo)?" Since he indeed would have, he would lie again and say no(ulu). We just tricked him into telling the truth. Now if Tee and Eff were switched then the exact same thing would've happened. If you asked Tee "is the god on your left Arr?" he would've told the truth and said no(ulu). So if you asked him "if I asked you if the god on your left were Arr, would you say yes(ozo). He would not have so he would still say no(ulu). So whether Tee or Eff is in the middle either one would've told the truth. So what if you're speaking to Arr? Well then that would mean the one on the left couldn't be Arr of course. The whole point of the first question is just to figure out which of the three is NOT Arr. Which you now know is the one on the left. So now you know that the one on the left is either Tee or Eff, and you know how to trick Eff into telling the truth. So now you ask the one on the left "if I asked you if you were Eff, would you say yes(ozo)?" since it's Tee he would say "no(ulu)". So now you know it's Tee. So now you ask Tee again "is the one in the middle Arr?" Tee would say no(ulu) so you would know the one in the middle must be Eff which means the one on the right must be Arr.
Now the reason you don't need to know what Ozo or Ulu means is because you just need to see if they respond with the same word you used or not. If you ask the question with Ozo and they answer with Ozo then they're basically saying yes. If they respond with Ozo when you say Ulu it means no, if they respond with Ulu when you say Ozo it means no. If they respond with Ozo when you say Ozo it means yes. If they respond to Ulu with Ulu it means yes. This whole riddle is basically using negatives and positives from math to solve the problem. If you use a negative, and they use a positive then the solution is negative, or false. If you use a negative and they use a negative then the solution is positive, or true. So now look at the question again "If I asked you if the god on the left is Arr, would you say Ozo?" He replies "Ulu". So you know he's saying the god on the left is NOT Arr. Either he's telling the truth or he IS Arr, either way you know the god on the left isn't Arr, which allows you to figure out the other two. Hope this helps.
Did I understand the riddle?
Ulu.
Did I learn anything?
Ozo.
What did I learn?
*To not crash-land on an alien planet.*
Well if she did learn something than, and her answer to “did i learn something” is ozo. that means ozo is yes and ulu is no - So no they did not understand and yes they learned something
But we still don't know which is yes and which is no. The narrator just kinda assumed....lol
🤣🤣🤣
Learns an entirely new alien language in a day. But can't say Yes or No.
Seems legit.
Ham Sandwich
lol
Ham Sandwich ikr!lol!
Ham Sandwich well never thought of that.. Lol
Ham Sandwich IKR and yes or no are usually the first words people learn when learning a new language.
Crystals exactly. lol
Just realized that the names of the gods are, in a way, what they do.
"Tee" sounds like T -> True
"Eff" sounds like F -> False
"Arr" sound like R -> Random
yes but it doesn't prove a thing bruvv, kills the purpose of the riddle
Amazing! You solved the puzzle!
Ted: Can you solve this riddle? Me: how dare you underestimate me of course I ca... *WTF IS THIS*
Same I feel ashamed.
Ikrrr sameee i thought I was good at solving riddles...
exatly... i cant really understand the explanation
It's not that I don't understand the explanation.... exactly. it's just that I fail to see how it is fail proof?
Usually most of channels ask easy questions for you to feel better about yourself. So you watch more of the same channels videos.
For the fourth and final question when you leave, ask Tee:
“Is 2+2=4”
If oso means yes, Tee would say oso.
If oso means no, Tee would say ulu.
You would finally be able to find out what the words mean. It wouldn’t really accomplish anything other than you being fully fluent in the alien language though.
It gives you a Steam achievement if you unlock the full language.
…Unless this whole time the aliens didn’t know how to do math…
The riddle will make a tiny bit more sense if: you can ask in your own language and the aliens will understand, but they will only answer in their own language which you don't know.
Also only works If aliens have the same syste on maths
Tbh you could just ask another hypothetical question to find out if it's a long way to Earth without knowing if ozo is yes or no. "Tee, If I asked you 'is it a long way to Earth?' Would you answer ozo?" If ozo, statement is true, it's a long way till Earth. If ulu, hooray! Earth isn't that far away!
For anyone who's good at math, this is what math sounds like to people who are bad at it
Ozo
Ulu
Ozulu
Olu
Ozoulo
So how confusing do you want this riddle to be?
Ted-Ed: *Well, ozo but actually ulu.*
Friend: solves riddle
Me: Who tee eff arr you? God?
😂😂😂😂😂 Good one,man!
Well you really just need to think about it however long it takes you to figure it out and you probably will eventually
Lol😂
Underrated !!
Actually this is a joke so never mind that has nothing to do with it
@Yoan Aditya what he said to make you say wtf ?
I JUST REALIZED THAT TEE ARR AND EFF STAND FOR "T" "R" "F" WHICH MEANS TRUE/RANDOM/FALSE, JUST LIKE THEIR ANSWERS. HOLY SHI
Mai bine taceai.
T
Thank you, I'm brazilian, and if wasn't you, I would never realize that
Obviously
@@anythingatall1471 not obviously, thats legit hard to finf.
Me: *watches video*
Me: What?
Me: *re-watches video*
Me:.....What?
Took me half an hour on a whiteboard with marker, but I am thorough with all the steps and feeling happy.
yay!!!
I just realized that TEE is the first letter in true, EFF in false, and ARR in random.
The Anxious Wiggler
Ye I realised too
No s**t sherlock
Flapjack Lang that’s not a very cash money thing to say
@@DriftingMari oh f**k you!!!!
Flapjack Lang nah.
Girl: Will you say Ozo if the god next to you is Tee?
Eff: Uwu
HAHAHAHAHA GOOD ONE
Nice
i see u r a man of culture
OwO
Bring forth the holy hand grenade
the answer is give each one an artifact, check and see if they are appeased, if not, load from previous save file, and try another combination of artifacts there are 3 artifacts (or sequences) to choose from, should take 4 or 5 tries. then exit planet.
CubeMster I forgot to save...
I already got my companionship badge and my skill tree is at 14
Cooljonny Gamin' Reload the mission.
CubeMster I think I've made a very detailed explanation.
LOL!!!
seven years ago this was made, yet i still come back to it once in a while to remember the solution
do you forget it?
When the math teacher has explained the answer multiple times: 4:35
4:36*
i love it, i imagine the situation, and the cam zooming in the face is inclusive more perfect
I am the math teacher. Ozo = x^2 x pi. No solution. But.... if I told you there was, what would it be, yes or no? Ozo means yes, while ulu means no. This is solved by asking if Tee's name is Tee, and whatever he responds with is yes. By mentioning his name, he will respond truthfully. He responds Ozo, which is now yes. This identifies Tee, and solves for Ozo. Now, you mention Eff and pick a answer where you know if it is yes or no. This finds Eff and can lead to maybe discoveries and other possibilities. You then find Arr, and ask Tee if you this is the correct overlords' names.
I died XD
Haha
Just put down the artifacts in front of the three over lords and say in alien:
“Take the one you want”
Unfortunately that is a statement. Not a question.
@@anon8510 Well, if it's not a statement, those quotations threw me off.
@@anon8510 Hmm, I believe your right actually. An order directs while a statement tells you about a subject. I stand corrected. An Order is what I wanted to say. Thanks.
braaainsiogame That's not how wooshing works.
@@SappySoul then how about.. Could you take what you want? Please?... Ahahha
problem has been detected and windows has been shutdown to prevent damage to your computer
looooollll
LMAO!!!
Error 404 brain not found
Closing all windows and doors to prevent it escaping.
After so many years I finally realised:
Tee > T > True
Eff > F > False
Arr > R > Random
It was so obvious 🤣
i love how at the end when that narrator says that u still dont know what means and it zooms in on you, you just have this "dead-inside" smile like, screw my existance
I was aboutta say is no one gonna mention that lmao it was hilarious
If it were me, i would've presented all the artifacts to them at the same time and let them pick. I am not smart enough for this riddle.
I wouldve just learned their language 100% before asking anything. Seemed like they could learn pretty fast anyways
sora ai I thought of the same solution. I bet those aliens know what artifact belongs to each other.
But what if one of them lie and take an artifact that isn't theirs and cause a commotion?
The Sportzers then leave while the commotion is going on xD
DracoSerpentisCruor HOW the heck would I leave then?
Got my pen and paper ready to work out all the possibilities and then when he mentioned that we do not the word used for 'yes' and 'no', I did not even hesitate or think and just skipped to the solution.
why didn't you just factor that in and keep trying?
SAME!
I just realised that you could determine which word means "yes" and which word means "no" with your final (fourth) question
There are several ways to go about this, but the simplest is asking Tee whether or not he is Tee
Do not add a hypothetical statement to this question, simply ask Tee, "Are you Tee?"
Since we know the question is true and Tee always answers truthfully, there are only two possible outcomes:
1) Tee answers "ozo". Therefore, "ozo" means "yes" and "ulu" means "no"
2) Tee answers "ulu". Therefore, "ulu" means "yes" and "ozo" means "no"
but u dont know who is who
Tee=T=Truth
Eff=F=False
Arr=R=Random
Nice
oh
That's what I thought 🤣
👌👍👏
@yearly color era number arrbitrary
When you ask the alien lords whether ozo is yes or no
Alien lords: well yes but actually no
Science Theorizer Well ozo but actually ulu
Good one
it is funny how at the end both you and the narrator have forgotten the key premise to this riddle.
If you would ask Tee (or Eff, doesn't matter actually) the question "If I would ask you, whether Ozo means yes, would you answer Ozo?" and they would actually answer Ozo, then you know that your hypothetical question was true and Ozo really means yes. If they reply with Ulu your question was wrong and Ozo means no:
"proof":
suppose O=⊤ (yes/true/top):
F(F(O=⊤)=O) F(F(⊤=⊤)=⊤) F(F(⊤)=⊤) F(⊥=⊤) F(⊥) ⊤
suppose O=⊥ (no/false/bottom):
F(F(O=⊤)=O) F(F(⊥=⊤)=⊤) F(F(⊥)=⊤) F(⊤=⊤) F(⊤) ⊥
@Floki fair enough, though from the six rules you are not limited on what to ask the aliens as long as it is a yes or no question, so my proposed question is still one that she could ask. In other versions of this riddle the introduction is done a bit different and the aliens do understand your language, but can only talk in their own. I guess that is where the ambiguity in the rules emerges from. Alternatively you could also ask Tee, after having identified all aliens, if he is Tee and his answer will tell you whether Ozo or Ulu means yes.
They'd be like: "oh you still don't know?" Lmao!
So let me get this straight, you literally know EVERY single word in their language except for yes and no
jameely monte yep
jameely monte
Ozo
jameely monte
Ulu
it's not us who understand their language, it's them who understand our language
Ozo
This video predicted Pikmin 4, a dog and an astronaut working together
Ted-Ed: How can you still figure out which alien is which?
Me: By waiting for you to tell me the answer in 3, 2, 1...
Riddle? Hard
Me? Confused
The gods? Unhappy
Hotel? Trivago
Wow..............
@@femboyventi lol
@@_bunnies_3317 btw I like your profile picture
@@femboyventi yeah you too
@@_bunnies_3317 😁
my brain hurts
my kidneys hurt
ozo
my asshole hurts 😏
my ass hurts
i thought i was the only one. *sigh
For anyone who still doesn't get it:
You are asking the guy in the middle a question, assume it's either Tee or Eff and we'll deal with Arr later.
You ask: If I asked you "Is the guy on the left Arr" would you say ozo?
If you are talking to Tee
-if the guy on the left is truly Arr
-If ozo means yes, Tee would say ozo as in Yes, I would answer yes.
-If ozo means no, Tee would say ozo as in No, I wouldn't answer no.
-If the guy on the left is not Arr
-If ulu means yes, Tee would say ulu as in Yes, I would say no (ozo means no in the case and it's true because the guy is not Arr)
-If ulu means no, Tee would say ulu as in No, I wouldn't answer yes (because he wouldn't lie)
If you are talking to Eff
-If the guy on the left is Arr
-If ozo means yes, Eff would say ozo as in Yes, I would answer yes (he wouldn't, but that's the point, he lies)
-If ozo means no, Eff would say ozo as in No, I wouldn't say no (he would, again he lies)
-If the guy on the left is not Arr
-If ulu means yes, Eff would say ulu as in Yes, I would answer no (because now ozo means no, but he wouldn't say no because then it's not a lie)
-If ulu means no, Eff would say ulu as in No, I wouldn't answer yes (he would because that would be the lie)
So there you can see how if you formulate the first question: If i asked you "Is the guy in the left Arr" would you answer ozo?
Then both Tee and Eff would say ozo if it's Arr on the left, also both would say ulu if it's not the guy on the left. So you simply go to the other guy (if you know it's Arr on the left go to the one on the right, if its not the one on the left go him).
Now you may wonder, what if Arr is in the middle? Well then it doesn't matter, simply follow the instructions above and no matter what answers you get and to which god you end up it will not be Arr, which is what you are trying to achive.
Next question: If I asked you "Are you Eff" would you answer ozo?
If you are talking with Eff
-If ozo means yes, Eff would say ozo as in Yes, I would say yes (but he wouldn't because he would lie)
-If ozo means no, Eff would say ozo as in No, I wouldn't say no (but he would because that's the lie)
If you are talking to Tee
-If ozo means yes, Tee would say ulu as in No, I wouldn't say yes (because he doesn't lie)
-if ozo means no, Tee would say ulu as in Yes, I would say no (because he is not Eff and he wouldn't lie)
So, now you see the meanings of ozo and ulu don't matter, if you get an answer ozo you are talking to Eff, if you get an answer ulu you are talking to Tee.
Now knowing wether you will get lies or truths simply ask: If I asked you "Is the guy in the middle Arr" would you say ozo?
If it is Arr in the middle
-If you know you are talking to Eff
-If ozo means yes, Eff would say ozo as in Yes, I would say yes (he wouldn't)
-If ozo means no, Eff would say ozo as in No, I wouldn't say no (but he would)
-If you know you are talking to Tee
-if ozo means yes, Tee would say ozo as in Yes, I would say yes
-if ozo means no, Tee would say ozo as in No, I wouldn't say no
If Arr is not the one in the middle
-If you know you are talking to Eff
-If ozo means yes, Eff would say ulu as in No, I wouldn't yes (but he would)
-if ozo means no, Eff would say ulu as in Yes, I would say no (but he wouldn't)
-If you know you are talking to Tee
-If ozo means yes, Tee would say ulu as in No, I wouldn't say yes (he wouldn't lie)
-if ozo means no, Tee would say ulu as in Yes, I would say no (because now ozo means no)
So now if you get an answer ozo, that means Arr is in the middle. If the answer is ulu, Arr is the third god.
Since you already know wether you are speaking to Tee or Eff and you know who Arr is, now you will know who the last god is.
2 years and I still don't understand this riddle's explanation
@Miroslav Mandic Logically, it's possible that Arr give you the same answer for indefinitely many times in a row. So your way is not right. This is a "logical" paradox. You have to come up with a logically necessary solution.
@Miroslav Mandic since there's a 50/50 chance, it's not PROBABLE, but certainly it is POSSIBLE. Think of it this way, if you ask arr the same question 10 times, and he answers ozo, ozo, ozo, ulu, ozo, ulu, ulu, ozo, ulu, ulu; and you count how many ozo's and ulu's he answered,it's five each. But inside those 10 times, he repeated ozo 3 times straight. If he casually does this on your 3 chances to question (wich he could, because it's random every time) he would still maintain the 50/50 proportion, but would've answered you 3 times the same thing, so you cannot trust arr to give you different answers every time: randomness of that kind in practice tends to a distribution, but in theory it could be always ozo infinite times, or an least 3 times. You won't be sure, so you shouldn't bet your life on it.
@Miroslav Mandic what happened if the middle is Arr? Ted-Ed don't explain this situation
maybe it has something to do with all the fortnite you're playing
c0nqu3r3rlol I’m not playing Fornite, I play Apex Legends
Long-winded breakdown of why you don't need to know the exact meaning of "OZO" and "ULU", and why Arr doesn't prevent a solution (the first part is pretty much a reiteration of the video, but at the end I try to explain my understanding of it):
Tee (T) tells the truth
Eff (F) tells a lie
Arr (R) answers randomly
Question: "If I asked you whether 2+2=4 (known true), would you say 'OZO' (unknown meaning)?"
IF "OZO" = "Yes" AND "ULU" = "No"
Answers:
T: "OZO"
F: "OZO" (He would say "ULU" to the embedded question, so he denies this and says "OZO".)
IF "ULU" = "Yes" AND "OZO" = "No"
Answers:
T: "OZO"
F: "OZO" (Yes, he would say "OZO" to the embedded question, so he denies this and says "OZO".)
Like this:
- Q to F: "Does 2+2=4?:
- F: "OZO"
- Q to F: "If I asked you whether 2+2=4, would you say 'OZO'?"
- F: "OZO" (Must lie about his previous answer and deny that he WOULD say "OZO", but because "OZO" means "No" in this example, he uses the word "OZO" in order to deny it.)
Question: "If I asked you whether 2+2=5 (known false), would you say 'OZO' (unknown meaning)?" (Assuming the year is not 1984)
IF "OZO" = "Yes" AND "ULU" = "No"
Answers:
T: "ULU"
F: "ULU"
IF "ULU" = "Yes" AND "OZO" = "No"
Answers:
T: "ULU"
F: "ULU"
Question: "If I asked you whether the overlord on my left is Arr (unknown), would you answer 'OZO' (unknown meaning)?"
IF "OZO" = "Yes" AND "ULU" = "No", AND Arr IS to the left
Answers:
T: "OZO"
F: "OZO"
IF "ULU" = "Yes" AND "OZO" = "No", AND Arr IS to the left
Answers:
T: "OZO"
F: "OZO"
IF "OZO" = "Yes" AND "ULU" = "No", AND Arr IS NOT to the left
Answers:
T: "ULU"
F: "ULU"
IF "ULU" = "Yes" AND "OZO" = "No", AND Arr IS NOT to the left
Answers:
T: "ULU"
F: "ULU"
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So you aren't finding out the meaning of the words, but you ARE determining the validity of your embedded question. You know that an answer of "OZO" from Tee or Eff means that the embedded question is true, and an answer of "ULU" from them means that the embedded question is false.
On to the matter of determining order. Posed to the middle alien, the first question is this: "If I asked you whether the overlord on my left is Arr (unknown), would you answer 'OZO' (unknown meaning)?"
This question isn't about confirming who IS Arr, it's about confirming who IS NOT Arr.
If Arr is on either side, the first alien you're talking to must be Tee/Eff and you'd then know for sure where Arr is based on their answer. If Arr is in the middle, then the answer he gives would still point you in the correct direction because he ISN'T on either side. If Arr says "OZO" randomly, you would now be choosing between left and middle alien. If Arr says "ULU" randomly, you would be choosing between right and middle alien. Either way, you've determined the two spots where Arr COULD be and, more importantly, the one where he definitely COULDN'T be.
Originally, I was confused because it seemed like this solution required starting with Tee/Eff for sure, and already knowing which side Arr is on so you can formulate your question accordingly and know that you wouldn't be getting a random answer. However, getting a random answer isn't as much of a wrench in the works as I first thought, because that in itself can be used to make an elimination as Arr can't be in two places at once.
I'm not claiming to be an expert logician or anything and I admit that I could definitely be wrong, but that's my understanding of this riddle. In my opinion, the hardest part to understand is the fact that Arr answering randomly doesn't prevent you from being able to find the correct answer, so I decided to post how I worked through it in case it might be a help to anyone else. :)
i dint understand a thing lol
I aint reading all of that lol
Tysmm originally i didn’t understand a thing but now i understand a bit :))
But you’re right the hardest part to understand is the fact that Arr answering randomly doesn’t prevent u from being able to find the correct answer - i still don’t understand (going crazy rn 😫😫😫)
@@JustAnotherHumanBeing980 I know! It's crazy how hard it is to make one's brain work through it 😂
I would say the two biggest things are that:
1) Tee or Eff answering with "OZO" for sure means your embedded question is true, while an answer of "ULU" from Tee or Eff for sure means the embedded question is false
2) Arr can't be in two places at once. If Arr is in the middle and he answers your question randomly, he's telling you that Arr is not on a certain side, which is true because you're talking to him right now in the middle. While this information may come in the form of him lying and saying Arr IS located on a certain side, that still gets you in the correct direction because you've eliminated a position where he couldn't be either way. (If, answering randomly, he indicates that Arr is on the left, you'll eliminate the possibility of him being on the right. It is true that he is not on the right: he is currently in the middle.) And if you're talking to Tee/Eff in the middle, then your problems are solved anyway hahah
Maybe that helped a little? Hopefully it did 😅
@@CubicSagacity hmmm...🧐 I’m still working on it, thanks for the explanation tho :)
I love at the end when the narrator says “Too bad you still don’t know what that means”, and the girl looks so... crazy
Most people 👀👀👀
But always and continuesly in denial. Until they speak or comment. 👀👀👀 ✅✅✅💯😂😂😂
Right? She looks like she's about to go kill somebody 😆😲
Narrator: “Too bad you still don’t know what that means”
The hooman: "Guess I'll kill someone"
Gotta wonder how an alien got to be an overlord by giving a random answer to every question it's asked.
1. Confirm you have green eyes.
2. Ask the overlords to let you leave.
@koko night roma r/whoosh
Nope. Correct video. Idk what @koko night roma is talking about.
@DaRainbowGuy 23 Oops I see it as a joke now
i keep seeing these kinds of jokes that I can't even find these funny anymore
@@jrod9647 There’s another riddle where u have to confirm u have green eyes so u can ask to leave without the possibility of being thrown into a volcano. This video is commonly referenced because it has a silly plot.
My (very incorrect) answer:
“Tee, is this artifact yours?”
“Tee, is this artifact Eff’s?”
“Tee, is this artifact Arr’s?”
Hope ozo is yes.
I hope so too. 😂
But how do you know which one is Tee?
@@dillondebruv8377 Luck
That would be a 1/6 chance: 1/3, that you are talking to Tee times 1/2, that ozo is yes
(edit: in CASE you get 3 times ozo, so it's actually even worse xD.)
Now what's funny about that is: if you just randomly shuffled the artifacts and gave them to the aliens, that would also just be a 1/6 chance (ABC, ACB, BAC, BCA, CAB, CBA). So nothing was gained.
Coincidence? I think ulu ^^
Yeah well the problem is you dont know who Tee is 😂 but yeab funny joke eitherway
everyone is having very intelligent discussions in the comment section while i'm literally like wtf
Phan Trash You're not alone, man. *Taps your shoulder* You're not alone.
I literally did not follow that at all, good thing I'm not alone
The one saying "no" or lying, realizes he is lying and tells the truth. Seriously.
Is 2+2=4?
Truth - yes
Liar - no...but realizes he is lying so says "yes" for some reason
since he lies, he lies to himself...?
If asked "If I asked you if 2+2=4, would you respond 'ozo'?", it doesn't matter what "ozo" and "ulu" actually mean. Tee's response would be straight forward. If "ozo" meant yes, he would truthfully reply "yes", since he would in fact say yes to the condition. Eff, however would actually respond no to the condition, due to him always lying. So since he would actually respond "no", he instead responds "yes" to being asked if he would respond "yes" to the question. This means in either case, they would both respond "ozo", since we assume here "ozo" means "yes."
Let's assume instead that "ozo" means "no." In that case Tee, who would normally respond "yes" to the condition, responds "no", since he would not say "no" to the condition. Eff, on the other hand, would normally say "no" to the condition. Therefore, if asked if he would respond "no", he would lie and say "no" to the question, since he actually would say "no" to the condition. Either way, the would still respond "ozo" to the question, based on our assumption.
Because of all of this, no matter if we ask Tee or Eff, or if "ozo" means "yes" or "no", both of them will respond "ozo" if the condition is true, and "ulu" if the condition is false. This doesn't help us with Arr, since his response is random, but that's what the rest of the video is for.
step 1: leave
step 2: get a degree in english teaching
step 3: teach "yes" and "no" to the overlords
step 4: overlords are satisfied and let you leave
step 5: oh wait a second
"are the overlords satisfied?"
ozo
Ulu
Too bad you still don't know what that means
"A double positive always equals a positive."
*_yeah, right._*
You’re a ( + + ) person!
but there are languages where a double negative is still a negative;)
Two or more positives (+) stay a positive. Two or more negatives go to positive. One negative and one or more positives is a negative.
@Houdini Papaini Troll Brub it was a joke
@@getspaded learnrussianstepbystep.com/en/double-negative/
trick question, as i am on their planet the only alien is me
44almm
oh shit!
That's epic! wish I thought of that.
There's a dog too.
44almm lol
44almm good thinking 😂😂
I only see two aliens.
The girl and the dog.
Do I win a prize?
🎖
🥇 🎖 bravo bravo! 👏👏👏👏
@@catherinetheconeyt8146 the champs here!!!
Eyy!!
💱🏆🏅
So the part that is confusing is about Ozo being either “Yes” or “No”. But the thing is that doesn’t matter. What is important to know is that receiving Ozo equates to the imbedded question being “True” and receiving Ulu equates to “False”. True and False are not the same as Yes and No, respectively. Hence, the meaning of the words does not matter. So regardless if you ask the question to Tee, Eff or Arr, if you receive Ozo as the answer it means the imbedded question is True and if the answer is Ulu that means it’s False.
except if you're talking to arr, arr completely skips that and just picks at random
@@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn But the whole point about the first question is to guarantee that you ask the secodn and third questions to someone who isn't Arr. If Arr is on one of the sides then the first question will direct you to the side whe he isn't. If Arr is in the middle then the first question doesn't matter because you're always asking the second and third questions to one of the sides.
Even just understanding the entire explanation is extremely difficult. Took me a while.
GlacialTempestX is there any mistake in the explanation?
Yep, kinda. Seems like the riddle is based on the assumption that either Tee or Eff are in the middle
There is a major mistake . Without an understanding of what ulu or ozo means you can’t know whether it means yes or no . Since you can only ask 3 questions, and using the questions he used , you wouldn’t be able to figure out what ulu or ozo mean and therefore cannot figure out the identities of the aliens
They kind of breeze through that part but it's not true they assumed Tee or Eff are in the middle. Asking Alien#2: "If I asked you 'is Alien #1 Arr' would you say 'ozo'" . Assume they say ozo to this question. Two cases cover all possibilities : alien #2 is Arr so, "#1 not Arr, #2 is Arr, #3 not Arr", or alien #2 isn't arr but alien #1 is (since ozo is only said when the embedded question is true) "#1 is Arr, #2 not Arr, #3 not Arr". So those are all the possible case but notice in *both* of them #3 not Arr! Similar logic can be applied if the answer to our question is ulu but in that case we'll know #1 not Arr. Either way we now know one alien that definitely isn't Arr!
alex reignz he made a mistake, you should ask a alien does 1 + 1 = 2
Me: I understand
My Brain: oooooh he lyin
Chocobabe thanks for trying
Ozo = x^2 x pi. No solution. But.... if I told you there was, what would it be, yes or no? Ozo means yes, while ulu means no. This is solved by asking if Tee's name is Tee, and whatever he responds with is yes. By mentioning his name, he will respond truthfully. He responds Ozo, which is now yes. This identifies Tee, and solves for Ozo. Now, you mention Eff and pick a answer where you know if it is yes or no. This finds Eff and can lead to maybe discoveries and other possibilities. You then find Arr, and ask Tee if you this is the correct overlords' names.
@Chocobabe Or you could just watch a limited version of this riddle used in _Laybrinth_
ki bole na bole egula
"You have deciphered enough of their language to ask them any three questions.
*Except, you don't know the two simplest words to learn in every single language, yes and no."*
There is an alternative version of this puzzle which says that they can understand you but will only answer in their own language, which is much more plausible
Well not all languages even have a yes or no, Chinese for example (Mandarin)
@@DanksterPaws Yep. Latin also has no word for yes or no
@@DanksterPaws isn't it 对 and 错?
@@DanksterPaws In fact, it has. 是/yes 否/no
Guys, so basically
For explanations sake ill use:
Truth for tee
False for eff
Random for Arr
1. First part:
Regardless of what ozo and ulu means,
we can always get *ozo* (from either true or false) as the answer if we were to use the construction:
“If ____ would you answer ozo”
And the same for ulu
By this logic, we’ve established that using the exact question construction above we can always know that ozo = yes. Now set that question construction aside for later use
2. Second part:
Question 1:
use the first question to determine where either truth and false are so that we can ask them the question construct above first part.
Note that random isnt a problem because we would always have an answer that determines where true or false are and where random isnt in
If ozo: guy on the right is either true or false
If ulu: guy on the left is either true or false
Question 2:
Since we’ve established that either left or right are true or false ask them the same question construction on part one and identify whom they are between true or false
Question 3:
Now that we know who the first alien is (either true or false), we can then ask them where random is with 100% accuracy given (again) the first part question construction.
And then the last alien would of course be the alien who isnt identified yet
Me before clicking in this video: *I probably won’t be able to solve this but I’ll try*
Video: “this is the hardest logic puzzle ever”
Me: *well s****
Ozo = x^2 x pi. No solution. But.... if I told you there was, what would it be, yes or no? Ozo means yes, while ulu means no. This is solved by asking if Tee's name is Tee, and whatever he responds with is yes. By mentioning his name, he will respond truthfully. He responds Ozo, which is now yes. This identifies Tee, and solves for Ozo. Now, you mention Eff and pick a answer where you know if it is yes or no. This finds Eff and can lead to maybe discoveries and other possibilities. You then find Arr, and ask Tee if you this is the correct overlords' names. I solved it.
👁👄👁 I still don’t understand lol.
Girl: if I asked you whether the overload on my left is Arr, would you answer ‘OZO’?
Alien: ...wait what ?
Alien : what is the question again, its to fast... hmmmmm ,to bad ,minus 1.
Wait Wha----
KOREGA Requiem DA
Alien: give me 3 seconds
Wait so, do the aliens explode your face off if you give them the wrong artifact? Because you could just give the artifacts to each one and switch them if the aliens are not happy.
Well I guess I don’t need this video anymore.
common sense > odd flex
"the only way off"
i guess they wont fix it
How can you decifer a entire language besides yes or no
*666*
This is how ChatGPT have answered question about my solution::
ChatGPT.
Your analysis is astute. While the rules specify the nature of the answers (truthful or deceitful), they don't explicitly mandate that a Lord must always provide a response. As such, your solution, which utilizes a question that forces no answer, is a valid interpretation of the rules. It's an inventive approach that the puzzle's designer may not have anticipated but doesn't violate the rules as they're defined. Your solution demonstrates creative thinking and a thorough understanding of the puzzle's constraints.
What's your solution?
@@danny91pr check comment below.
Arr, where the Eff is my Tee?
Dᴏᴡʟᴘʜɪɴ
😂
Dᴏᴡʟᴘʜɪɴ
これは私を笑わせた
Dᴏᴡʟᴘʜɪɴ clever clever
Dᴏᴡʟᴘʜɪɴ nice!
is eff a bad word?
Alien gods: You may ask three 'yes or no' questions
Me: Can we get an Eff in chat?
Seriously underrated comment
ulu
Ozo
Eff
loool
Thanks TED-Ed now i feel stupid..
The English Teacher you should you play teemo
The English Teacher ozo
ULU !!!!!!
ozo ulu
The English Teacher allahu akbar
Finally after racking my brain for 2 completely hours I got the algorithm.
Tip : take Tee and Eff as a binary Operation and the Embedded question as a Function F(x) each time you put a hypothetical question which is true the binary operations will work accordingly.
Without embedding function inside a function.
eg. Tee is a operator which takes a correct input and gives output as true or takes incorrect input and gives output as false. Same for Eff -> take a correct input and produces output as false, but when given incorrect input produces it as True.
You can do the same algorithm with embedded functions.
1st step when u found one of the 3 values that isn’t the isolated value, after this it is all about eliminating.
"too bad you still don't know what that means" *shows the face of someone dying inside*
cactie The joke is that if Ozo means yes or no, it still means that the Earth is far away
:/ I see this. You don’t upload at ALL
hey man sometimes im just too lazy to upload
I would ask the middle alien: "If I were to ask Arr if he is Tee, would he say ozo?" Neither a liar nor a truth-teller could answer for sure, since they could not predict his random answer with completely true or false certainty. If he did answer ozo or ulu, then I'd know it was Arr...otherwise, the other two would be stuck in a logical hyper loop and be unable to answer. If he was silent. I'd ask him "If I were to ask Tee if he were Eff, would he say ozo? If he said ozo, then I'd know I was talking to Eff. If he said ulu, then I'd know I was talking to Tee. Then I'd know which question to ask to find out who was on his left; and figure out by process of elimination who was on his right.
Ozo = x^2 x pi. No solution. But.... if I told you there was, what would it be, yes or no? Ozo means yes, while ulu means no. This is solved by asking if Tee's name is Tee, and whatever he responds with is yes. By mentioning his name, he will respond truthfully. He responds Ozo, which is now yes. This identifies Tee, and solves for Ozo. Now, you mention Eff and pick a answer where you know if it is yes or no. This finds Eff and can lead to maybe discoveries and other possibilities. You then find Arr, and ask Tee if you this is the correct overlords' names.
@Alexandra Masella I think it is for both. Intellectuals, like me, I solved this in like thirty seconds, would want to see if they can still do this.
Master HD problem is… you are only allowed 3 questions, also how do you know which one is tee to ask him what’s his name?
but thats not a yes or no question, it has to be one
As far as I'm concerned, this is a lot better solution than that in the vdo since TedEd's solution only works on the condition that you were lucky enough that the first alien you asked wasn't R. Otherwise, your question would be useless.
“So How hard do you want the riddle to be?’’
“Ozo”
@@idkthistree The answer of the question is left as an exercise to the reader.
I think Ozo is Yes
Ulu is yes
Ozo is no i think
This question is not (yes or no) question, which means you'll not answer by yes or no in the first place
At this point i will be the 4th god on that planet named BEE and mess with other people who get stranded there
Girl: **masters alien language**
*also forgets which is no and yes*
She didnt pay attention to the basic and only paid attention to the harder words
Just like I know what Götterdammerung means but don't know how to say "car" in German.
Pascal Law I think it’s auto
@@footfungus5724 Yeah it is. Das Auto.
Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
Vihaan Misra DUDE! TAKE THE PRIZE xD
Vihaan Misra wrong channel
This aint darkk mane
This meme must never die
Produces energy cell from other cell
Photosynthesis only occurs in plants.
*Simple Explanation:*
If I say 2+2 = 4, would you have answered ozo?
• If ozo = yes
T: yes I would answer ozo (yes) bc 2+2 =4
F: i f you asked 2+2= 4 would've said ulu (no), so since I gotta lie to you about what I would've said, I'm gonna say ozo
• If ozo = no so ulu = yes: same thing but they'd both say ulu
T: no I wouldn't say ozo bc the statement is wrong
F: well yeah I would've said yes, but since I wanna lie to you about what I would've said, I'll say ulu
So T & F will confirm your statement.
• If R is in the middle and you ask him if the one on his left is R then whatever he says doesn't matter. But he'd be in the middle. So the one on the left isn't R.
• If the middle one isn't R, they'll either confirm or deny your statement that R is the one on his left. Hence you'll know for eg here that R is on the right.
Either way, he's either in the middle or where that alien told you he is. So you just ask the opposite sided alien about his identity. He'll confirm your statement insinuating that he is or isn't T or F.
Then you ask him basically to confirm your statement about which alien is in the middle
If both F and T give the same answer then how does that help know if 1) the statement is true or false or 2) which alien I am talking to? That question would not have given me any useful information. Especially if I accidentally asked it of R.
@@astarajarvis9965 you're asking "if I tell you 2+2 =4, would you say ozo?" So basically you know that the statement is true and both will answer yes so whatever they say will mean "true"
2) you're only talking to the first alien so you can talk to another one and make sure he's not R. Basically you just ask the guy in the middle about the one to his left, then you ask the one to his left if his statement is true. If one of them is R, you'll get your statement verified by the other one
Tbh your explanation is easiest among youtube comments to understand for me, but it's because the particular way of your writing. Thank you. Ultimately this riddle it boils down to semantics, since I have troubles getting the part where Eff says the same thing as Tee regardless of the meanings of Ozo/Ulu.
Ahh! It's the double negative that's throwing people off, I think. It was for me anyway. "No, I would not say no" is an indirect affirmative. It's saying "yes" without actually saying it. Pretty sneaky, sis.
it means that r says the false and lie
As someone who’s normally pretty good at these, this one was a proper challenge.
Usually, this riddle is explained by simplifying it first: you only have two aliens, Tee and Eff, and you know what "yes" or "no" means. From there you get to, "what would your partner say if I asked ..." And then you can make it more complicated step by step.
This actually is a better explanation. I feel like they should have made more time for the explanation.
So basically, the two door guards riddle with extra steps.
Victoria Pulcifer this is what I thought of
Giochay77 assuming you’re talking about the 2 guys riddle where one always tells the truth and one always lies, you only get one question and you don’t know who is standing in front of what thing. You have to ask a question that will give you the right choice, no matter who you ask.
@@ChoppyMemes_ yes that the one
If I asked you "Is Mitochondria the powerhouse of the cell" would you respond "Ozo"?
Ethereal Forest ulu
True.
Ethereal Forest ○z○
Ozo.
is pee stored in balls?
"Can you solve the three gods riddle?"
*man i don't even understand the solution*
So both tee and eff would answer ozo if the statement in the question is true, and would answer ulu if the statement was false, that way they can rule out one alien that isn’t arr, and asks for their identify and phrase the 3rd question based on the known identity.
@@Ng1Brad what if they actually ask arr and tee/eff?
@@Hange. If you asked arr the first question, it wouldn't matter what his answer is because the purpose of the 1st question is to find who you're 100% sure isn't arr based on their response.
@@Hange.
If "statement is true", would you answer ozo?
Assuming ozo means yes:
Tee: Statement is true, so ozo.
Eff: Statement is true, but eff will give false answer, so he would have answered ulu to the statement, but the point of the question isn't whether the statement is true or false, it's on which answer they'll give, since eff will answer ulu, he changes the answer to ozo.
Assuming ozo means no:
Tee: Tee would've answered yes (ulu) it's true, so he answers no (ozo).
Eff: Eff would've answer no (ozo), so his truthful answer would be ulu to the entire question, eff being eff he changes the answer to ozo.
Now if "statement is false", would you answer ozo?
If ozo means yes:
Tee would say no (ulu) because it's false.
Eff would say ozo to the statement, so when he's asked if he would answer ozo, he falsifies and answers ulu.
If ozo means no:
Tee answers ulu (yes) because the statement is false.
Eff would say ulu to the statement, so when asked if he would answer ozo, he falsifies and answers ulu.
From both scenarios we can conclude that if the statement is true, tee and eff would answer ozo (same answer you include in your whole question), if it's false, they'll both answer ulu (different answer in your whole question). Then you can work your statements around eliminating arr, so you can get straight forward answers from either Tee or eff.
@@Ng1Brad I still didn't actually understand it but ok😅😅 it's night so maybe my mind isn't working or I just have to ask someone who speaks same language as mine.. but thank you so so much for taking your time to explain it to me💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
"this riddle has been called the hardest logic puzzle ever"
My brain cells: I'm gonna head out
its simple you just ask: all three lords, are you the true lord? and the two that have the same answer if ozo or ulu are true and false one and you work out that the other is random. then that answer they replied with either ozo or ulu is yes.
so you ask a question that you know the answer to for example: is 1 + 1 = 2,
the one that replies with the same answer as the last question is tee and the one that has a different answer is eff and the other is arr.
@@jeneusschneider243 Yo can only ask 3 three question and is to only one lord each
@@jeneusschneider243 you can only ask 3 questions in total to each lord
Well, ozo, but actually ulu.
Side note: I hope ozo means no.
Wait... What?
Please give me the solution in 20 words or less.
It's all in the language of the question. Ur question starts with IF I asked you (question) would you say OZO? And by actually inserting the word OZO into the question you never need to know whether OZO is yes or no.
+Rostin, but because we can't know who Arr is, the logic seems to break down unless I'm missing something. Our first question tries to get yes and no, but the next question seems to need that information.
i have a tshirt just like ur dp
If you know who Tee and Eff are, then you know the remaining is Arr. I haven't watched the rest of it, I'm stuck at the "figure it out yourself" part, and I think it revolves around asking Tee 2 questions, and Eff 1 question.
More study required.
So apparently my theory wasn't right. I didn't know we were doing loaded questions, I just figured it was a simple "are you eff" and corroborating the answers from there.
I would like to die in space. Thank you.
😂😂😂😂
I'd rather risk and go on with the probability of 1/27 and give the artefacts randomly.
After years i finally get the naming significance - Tee for "True", Eff for "False", Arr for "Random"
Looks like this video needs an FAQ:
*Why don't you just ask what ulu and ozo mean?*
You only get three questions. Since you can sidestep this issue, that would be a waste of a question. Also, the aliens don't speak English. That's why you had to decipher their language to begin with. The video is in English so _you_ can understand it.
*But the video has four questions?*
The math problem is just an example. It has nothing to do with the solution.
*Wouldn't Tee and Eff give different answers?*
No. It has to do with the nature of the embedded questions. The liar would lie to the embedded question but lie about lying to the full question as it's phrased. Think about the question: "If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say 'yes'?" The liar would say "no" to "Does 2 + 2 = 4?" but say "yes" if asked about how he would answer that question.
*How do you get around not knowing what ulu and ozo mean?*
If the word in your question matches the response then the embedded statement is true and if they don't then it's false regardless of what ulu and ozo actually mean. Think of it this way:
If *true* then *true* = *true*
if *true* then *false* = *false*
if *false* then *false* = *true*
if *false* then *true* = *false*
Let's look at some examples:
"If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say 'yes'?" "Yes."
"If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 4, would you say 'no'?" "No."
"If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 7, would you say 'yes'?" "No."
"If I asked you if 2 + 2 = 7, would you say 'No'?" "Yes."
Notice the "yeses" and "nos" match in true statements and are different in false statements. You don't need to know what each one actually means.
*Doesn't the whole thing depend on you not asking Arr the first question?*
No. If you're not talking to Arr then he's pointing you in the direction of Arr. The other possibility is that you are talking to Arr. Since there are _three_ aliens and only _two_ possible locations for Arr, there's one alien who definitely _isn't_ Arr.
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KJYKJY1985 you don't ask what Ozo and ulu means because they only answer yes or no questions
KJYKJY1985 ok
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