Seymour Duncan INVADER SH-8 vs BLACK WINTER - Passive Bridge Guitar Pickup Comparison Tone Demo

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  • Clean and distorted rhythm comparison between Seymour Duncan Invader SH-8 (passive) and Seymour Duncan Black Winter (passive) pickups for electric guitar on the bridge position. Settings are the following:
    GUITAR
    Tuning: Eь / D#
    Strings: D'Addario EXL140 (010-052 gauge)
    AMP
    Clean: EVH 5150 III profile (Kemper Profiler)
    Distortion: Peavey 5150 profile (Kemper Profiler)
    RECORDING TECHNIQUE:
    One centered mono track per pickup.
    Same config and EQ for both.
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    00:23 Clean test
    03:06 Distortion test
    #pickups #comparison #guitar

ความคิดเห็น • 57

  • @SecondhandWisdom
    @SecondhandWisdom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I owned the seven string version of both of these for a while, comparing them with pop culture references; the Black Winters are akin to Jack Nicholson hacking through that bathroom door with an axe, while the Invaders are more like the Kool-Aid man just smashing a whole wall down. Both sound good, just different.

    • @morbidcorpse5954
      @morbidcorpse5954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      😂😂

    • @holstorrsceadus1990
      @holstorrsceadus1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This was amazingly helpful. A more vivid picture has never been painted.

    • @thephoenixcycle8854
      @thephoenixcycle8854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That makes perfect sense. I can totally visualize it too 👍👍

    • @acutemadness
      @acutemadness ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I talked to the custom shop yesterday and they said that they’re both their highest output passive pickups despite the website still saying that the neck version of the Distortion is their highest-output neck humbucker.

    • @cdsmetalhead99
      @cdsmetalhead99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@acutemadnessboth of those statements can be correct at the same time. The Distortion neck is the highest output neck pickup. The Invader is a higher output bridge pickup.

  • @IniresMirrors
    @IniresMirrors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I had an Invader bridge pickup once upon a time, and I loved it. I’m planning on replacing an EMG 81 with it. The Black Winter, though, pretty much has the exact tone quality I want in a neck pickup (and I heard it used as such in another video), so that’s probably what’s going to replace the EMG 707. I really appreciate being able to hear these side by side.

    • @alococuccoyo6103
      @alococuccoyo6103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do it. I swear by an Invader bridge/Black Winter neck combo. Lush, rich neck tones that fit my clean needs and dig in some dirt when I need to emphasize lead lines; and a bridge that gives me an attack that lets my rhythm cut through without being icy or mushy.

  • @DaveViner
    @DaveViner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Invader = low mids
    Black winter = high mids
    Great video!

  • @Vayth
    @Vayth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    both awesome, two of my all time favourite Seymour Duncan Pickups, along with the JB and the Nazgul.

  • @ractv22
    @ractv22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The invaders are definitely heavier, but the black winters I find are clearer somehow.That being said they both are phenomenal.It depends on what kind of player you are.You just can't go wrong with either of them.

    • @Rikki2x4
      @Rikki2x4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Black Winters are more modern

    • @zythum999
      @zythum999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. Strange though. The Invaders sounded clearer clean but the BWs sounded way clearer with dirt.

  • @ChristianFlores-yf2py
    @ChristianFlores-yf2py 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The invaders sound heavier and more brutal but the black winters sounded more refined and dark

  • @Canuplease1974
    @Canuplease1974 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still think the Invader is my go-to. Without a doubt

  • @ErebosGR
    @ErebosGR ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Apparently, the Invader and the Black Winter are the exact same pickup, only with different polepieces.
    The tonal differences come down to the difference in the ferrous mass of the screws which influence the overall inductance of the pickup.

    • @Anunakkiwalkitalki
      @Anunakkiwalkitalki ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Interesting. Sources/background?

    • @zekkari27
      @zekkari27 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Anunakkiwalkitalki source: trust me bro

    • @zekkari27
      @zekkari27 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bs

  • @acepaul407
    @acepaul407 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both sound pretty awesome to me!!! Comes down to personal taste.

  • @rokkimason4199
    @rokkimason4199 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm feeling the Black Winter. It is reminiscent of the Super Distortion. I like the Black Winter cuz it has a bit darker flavor. Paired with a 1 meg pot,it will brighten right up!!

  • @BetterLateThanNever80
    @BetterLateThanNever80 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently bought a set of Black Winter pickups, but I like the sound of both of these and also the Dimarzio super distortion. A comparison of the black winter and duncan solar plus would be interesting.

  • @tot6994
    @tot6994 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The invaders are full and direct. Black winter are just spellbounding. I don't think it's fair to compare them side by side: it must be done in a context - they will both come out on top.

  • @Rogata_Dusza76
    @Rogata_Dusza76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine a band playing music on two "axes" - on one SH-8 Invader Pickup set, on the other Black Winter Pickup set! Carnage!!!! 🤘💪😈

  • @Guitar_Smasher
    @Guitar_Smasher ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It seems a Black Winter has descended upon the Invader!

  • @Rogata_Dusza76
    @Rogata_Dusza76 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:31 3:43 🤘💪😈 3:55 4:06

  • @fyuunnaaf0171
    @fyuunnaaf0171 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surprisingly, I did like the Invaders a lot.
    They are hella heavy, the cleans are unexpectedly nice. As what I can descern: Invader are hotter, heavier in the lowrange (pretty readable tho), a tad brighter in the presence range, highs are similar enough to ignore. The Winters are more clean and precise sounding to me.
    They both are very very cool, not gonna lie. I like the Winters for their accurate and articulate sound. Hence as I read through Invader's description I thought "damn, bet these are obnoxiously bassy and fuzzy". Somehow I completely forgot that Hetfield recorded MOP on these pups.
    But still, imma grab myself pair of Winters. They much too coll to ignore 'em.

  • @normbarrows
    @normbarrows 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Playing with my EQ on playback, it looks like the invaders are hotter around 100 Hz, while the Black Winters are hotter at 4Khz. So the Invader sounds "fatter", and the Black Winter sounds "thinner" by comparison. I personally prefer the Invaders as there is less midrange which must be removed by the pedal chain - I like a scooped sound.

  • @rw5170
    @rw5170 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder if the invader had normal sized pole pieces if these would be literally the same. The difference almost seem to be from that alone.
    Kind of a airy thickness to the invader where the bw has a crisp clarity. The larger pole pieces would react to the atring vibration more which i could see being a cause of that thick sound.
    This review made life tough . . . Lol. I have an invader in my cart at reverb. Now i have to reconsider.
    Have you done invader vs El Diablo?

  • @1WithTheShark
    @1WithTheShark ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the Invaders are slightly heavier for riffing, but aside from that, they're damn near identical.

  • @charles_heres
    @charles_heres 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    💯

  • @РоманБілецький-ц1х
    @РоманБілецький-ц1х 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Black Winter +

  • @CaukyAsian
    @CaukyAsian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Invader and Black Winter hammer on and pull off demo lol
    The first ho and po i heard i thought it was woody the woodpecker theme

  • @rokkimason4199
    @rokkimason4199 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The distortion tones of the Black Winter are far superior. The Invader sounds a bit compressed due to the Alnico 8's.

    • @jackwilson4211
      @jackwilson4211 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Invaders are ceramic

    • @jackwilson4211
      @jackwilson4211 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Invaders are ceramic

  • @РусланШемякин-б5к
    @РусланШемякин-б5к 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Я уже на клине запереживал за black winter, но на гейне все равно выиграл именно он)

  • @lucholievanos5277
    @lucholievanos5277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Invader es más sucia ligeramente más grabes , winter es ligeramente más aguda y limpia incluso en el palm muting

  • @gunstarhero222
    @gunstarhero222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yall want my opinion!? Yeah you do? Black Winter over Black outs, Invader SH=8 over Black Winter. I bout bought Black Winter glad I took my extra second to check these out. Now what Ill do is come on tomorrow and see if my ear changes. look for me a comment tomorrow.

    • @gunstarhero222
      @gunstarhero222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im gonnawritethis down

    • @JeanMarceaux
      @JeanMarceaux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The tomorrow never came

    • @gunstarhero222
      @gunstarhero222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JeanMarceaux Lol It never Did, I cant believe you caught that, I remember this. I did go with The Invader, I did not come back the next day and check it out. lol I got The bridge pickup only, Guitar still under construction. Thx for commenting you made me happy.

    • @JeanMarceaux
      @JeanMarceaux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gunstarhero222 it's all good, Rock on, my friend 👺👍

    • @gunstarhero222
      @gunstarhero222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JeanMarceaux Bruh these words arnt cool enough for u.

  • @pandorakid229
    @pandorakid229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Invader sounds muddy, Im gonna go with Black Winter !

  • @GearStuffandThings
    @GearStuffandThings 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive owned then disliked invaders, gotten rid of them for other pickups then missed the invaders haha I guess I need to just stick with invaders

    • @FuckinRiven
      @FuckinRiven ปีที่แล้ว

      What did you dislike about them?

    • @PalladinPoker
      @PalladinPoker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@FuckinRiven Probably the bass dominance and giant wall of sound you can end up with if not careful about EQ.

  • @JokerCat9
    @JokerCat9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Invader wins, the black winter sounds nasally in comparison.

    • @zekkari27
      @zekkari27 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      black winter wins easy, the invader is just muddy like a stock pu when compared to the black winter, I have had both and black winters were the one I decided to keep playing with.

  • @bradlord4440
    @bradlord4440 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easy to tune the gain and tone knobs while comparing the two pickups.how fucked up is that??

  • @manicdoom
    @manicdoom ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing that I don’t really like about the winter is that it has a bit too much bass and not enough treble in the bridge position, but it’s a great tone overall.