Consume Mushrooms - Cult of the Lamb - Part 6
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2022
- Start your own cult in a land of false prophets, venturing out into diverse and mysterious regions to build a loyal community of woodland worshippers and spread your Word to become the one true cult.
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Most people using predatory practices are incredibly charismatic people and use said charisma to get away with their unethical behavior more often than not.
hehe, Wanderbots is teaching about crimes and forgiveness while playing as a cult leader who sacrifices people because they're old X)
this was a common practice with my ancestors, although the old people would throw themselves off a cliff as to not be a burden. TBH my ancestors were from a time of expansion and we needed more fertile lands, so we raided. The whole religion from those times was created in order to breed hardy people that would fight to the death.
@@D00M3R_MAVS you from Norway or one of those countries where the Norse conquered?
@@isaacmayer-splain8974 They raided here (mostly Finnish I think) but also were given lands to farm.
They were more South of where I'm from, but I still have some Finnish DNA.
I live North of Hadrians wall as well. No one really ever managed to conquer these lands. The Romans just put up a wall and called it a day, ha ha.
Vikings claimed a lot of land South of here though, Most of South Tyneside and North Yorkshire.
Hey wander, I found your channel a while back from vampire survivor and recently you’ve become a fixture in my daily routine, it’s rad that you’re a left leaning pro worker indie game TH-camr and your taste in games is similar to mine, just wanted to let you know you’ve been helping me stay sane and calm while I’m house sitting a old big ass house alone whilst being terrified of the dark, much love
Dude, I could never live in a big old house like that. My imagination would fill the place with all sorts of horrors.
This whole episode I was just thinking "Okay Wander, go off"
Mad respect for you just speaking your mind on stream and being yourself. You've easily become one of my top TH-camrs and I just started watching you recently.
LoL, his favourite follower turned on him for talking politics. I prefer people keep that stuff out of their lets play videos. I'm here to see the game, not talk about John Tron (LoL) like I get he probably has to keep a certain mindset to not get cancelled himself, but at the same time I just don't care for political talk these days. I see it as talking points set by the upper class in order to drive a wedge in-between the lower classes to make us easier to control.
My own politics are not something I ever really bring up, because it's my opinion for me, and I'm not here to try and convert people.
Honestly I almost stopped watching when he started with that... hope it's not a regular thing.
@@D00M3R_MAVS when did he really get into politics?
I don't remember him ever mentioning anything about reformation with the system, or taxes, or even Dems/Repubs, etc.
@@zacharyfalvo2998 someone's politics is their beliefs. it doesn't just involve the government. common misconception.
@@D00M3R_MAVS then... What? You don't want someone... Sharing their beliefs? Like, in their videos, in general?
I figured you meant government politics because that I could've atleast gotten behind. But why shouldn't Wander discuss his beliefs in his let's play?
I mean, not only freedom of speech and whatnot, but it's his let's play. If he wants to talk about what he believes (which, too be frank, isn't even anything radical like usurping the government or forcing people to believe what he does), than why shouldn't he?
@@D00M3R_MAVS You're the chud who got banned, aren't you?
This episode should have been named "Political Talk Time" there was WAY more of it than mushrooms that's for sure. :D
you don't get it... you talk about deep stuff when you're high af
On the separating art from artist thing, one of the most famous examples are Hitler's paintings. Just because they were painted by a horrible person doens't change that they are decent artworks, but I would for sure never hang one of them in my home. There are more than enough paintings from far more pleasant people to choose from.
That's a really solid way of putting it. Would you mind if I paraphrase it next time the topic comes up?
@@wanderbots I wouldn't mind at all. It is an interesting topic and everyone enjoying art should at least have an opinion on it. I'm glad you're talking about such topics and I'm really enjoying your videos.
@@wanderbots The issue unfortunately is, in that particular case most definitely, there's a certain subset of people who almost worship him and would certainly collect those paintings for nefarious reasons.
And that's part of why it's so hard to separate art from artist. They use these art pieces as centerpieces of what is essentially a cult from which they rebirth the artist's hatred and bad behavior.
I feel like it's also easier when said artist is dead aswell.
HP Lovecraft isn't making any money anymore.
JK Rollin is still making money and useing it to do harm
I find it possible to dissociate with the creator as long as I'm not allowing them to profit. So if I already have something of theirs that I enjoy, I'm not going to throw it away, but I'm not gonna buy anything new from them either.
I can't if it includes their voice or face though, like an actor or TH-camr.
Devolver and Klei are the two names in the Indie scene that when i see i go "ooooh whats this one?" - i'm eagerly awaiting Klei's new one, looks like their take on CastleCrashers
Theyve had some lesser games, but never stinkers imo.
Bleb
reminds me I need to buy the Klei bundle for 2022. I only need the oxygen not included DLC from it though, so it's just paying a few quid to get the DLC. I hope there's more in next years one. Their steam bundles are great, but once you have all their games, not much left to get from them.
Wasn't Enter the Gungron on PS+ a few years back, though? 🤔
@@Samara_Cinders maybe, but it would have been a long time after it was first released I would imagine.
also I think gungeon was one of their first big games, right? I can't remember TBH.
I really do appreciate when Wanderbots stands up for what he believes in and tries to explain in earnest the topic and why he believes it. Please never stop fighting the good fight for compassion, acceptance and understanding. This is why I stick around.
The way he talks about it sounds closeminded as well though. But I guess it's just the current time where you have to virtue signal and say everyone else is/was racist.
@@hatsu3907 At what point does he virtue signal? He says that he cannot separate the art from the artist because, as an artist himself, he knows that there is a piece of the artist in everything they do. That's the closest he gets to virtue signaling he gets, and he doesn't even once mention racism. Stop searching for conflict where none currently exists.
@@hatsu3907 Also, humans have ALWAYS been about "virtue signaling." From Christians claiming that you must love their God to be a good person, to the Nazis saying that those with blond hair and blue eyes are the superior race. People speaking their beliefs (and especially trying to make others feel bad for not believing that same thing) isn't anything new. Perhaps it's simply that you don't agree with the current messages people are trying to spread? In which case, you would be Virtue Signaling yourself, by making virtue signaling out to be this terrible thing that people shouldn't do.
@@hatsu3907 I forgot he talked about HP Lovecraft. Who is, in fact, objectively racist, not to mention classist.
@@jeremiahsnelson5644 I get that by today's standard he was racist, classist and most likely a misogynist as well. However you can't judge people soley based on your own circumstances/enviroment/time period. You can't really fault a person for their upbringing and enviroment they grew up in either. I probably had more of an issue with the fact that he cannot at all separate the art from the artist. That's like saying medicine that helps people cannot be used because it was made with poison as an ingredient. I guess I was just irked by the blanket statement.
One of the best examples of honest redemption was Bartolomé de las Casas, a Spanish landowner in Hispaniola in the 1500’s. Like most invaders at the time, he was a racist, abusive monster… At first.
In 1515 he gave up his lands, slaves, and position to become a reformer and one of the most famous early Human Rights activists. He was known as “Defender of the Indians”, argued for their personhood before Charles I of Spain, and succeeded in getting the New Laws passed to protect indigenous peoples. Though his early efforts were somewhat misguided and sloppy (he argued for black & white slaves at first before condemning slavery altogether), he improved over time & spent 50 years fighting for human rights.
I have always found it weirdly interesting how many people seem to have a "rules for thee but not for me" kind of mentality where they suggest everyone else should do something but they won't do it themselves.
The only time I've ever heard them called 'chicken tendies' personally was watching Steins Gate.
only ever heard chicken tendies from the memes that originated at 4chan (TBH all memes originate from 4chan, most people just don't want to admit that their humour comes from there, Lol. it's pathetic really the way we treat people because of differing opinions)
all humour of the past 2 generations is derived from 4chan, but on the same hand everyone who peddles this style of humour in the mainstream absolutely hates 4cdhan users. It's actually quite funny to watch from the outside.
at 5:26 you can break the statue for some stone but manly for the satisfaction of doing it
You can also break the training dummies for some wood
@@ThomasBD cool
Lovecraft for me is not interesting for the mythos but for his writing. So yes, he spawned something amazing but only his works interest me because of stylistic reasons. Guy was a walking thesaurus.
More collective mythologies should exist, though (really hard with 120+ year copyright), which weirdly enough franchises like Warhammer and StarWars EU did quite well. ('weirdly' because of otherwise ridiculously overprotective rights holders)
About the whole, would you read a book by a serial killer type thing. Depending on if the book was about what the person was going through mentally during the time in which they did those things then. While I would be kinda unnerved I feel like I would also kinda connect with the person on a deeper level and would be interested in what they were feeling like during that time. Also as a person I always feel that if you judge someone by one bad thing they did in their life then you haven't seen the real them in their entirety. I don't know maybe some acts deserve cruel punishment but for me it just kinda feels, wrong. Anyway great vid wander.
I'm usually less bothered by one-off mistakes or ill acts that a person tries to move on from or atone for. It's the people that show a consistent pattern of terrible behavior that I take specific umbrage with.
And while occasionally reading a book by a serial killer (or comparably similar terrible acts) can potentially be enlightening, I'd argue that filling one's personal library with books by and about these people might be a really bad sign.
On the lovecraft thing: The dude was pretty standard for his time on the one hand, and just generally xenophobic on the other. It wasn't even based on race lines. He was just genuinely terrified of everyone equally including other britanic and european ethnicities. Hell, the shadow over innsmouth storyline was largely spawned from his fear of potentially being part welsh. Which is why it ends like it does. It's pretty morally dubious to judge someone by completely different standards to their own time and then try to be like "they CHOSE to be shitheels" when... they didn't really know it was a bad thing. I'll remind you that this was a time period when minorities were not even considered people, let alone cared about in any capcity greater than what we might think of farm equipment with. The fact that he toned down his xenophobic takes later on in life when one of his few friends informed him that what he was doing was, in fact, not ok suggests he was largely doing it out of lack of education mixed with fear. In fact his later works suggest he was trying to come to grips with the unknown to some degree. Trying to understand the things that were alien to him, and so feared and reviled in his early years.
If he were born today, he'd probably be your average tumblrite or twitter goblin with a laundry list of mental health issues almost as long as their terribly drawn webcomic that they've kept going on sheer bitterness and spite alone for an unreasonable length of time. Agoraphobia, discalcia, clinical depression, intense social anxiety, severe ptsd, and a few I'm sure more studious lovecraft historians can correct me on. I'm not going to sit here and say that the things back then were morally acceptable. Howard and many others like him are now understood to not be moral paragons upholding the aryan race. We've progressed a fair bit as a society since then. No, his modern contemporaries have learned subtlety and being aggressively offended for those woefully incompetent, infantile minorities they oh so graciously make a show of protecting. While it suits them anyway.
However, what I will correct is that many people take the understanding that howard grew up in a different time, with different standards when we enjoy his works. Because we can disconnect ourselves from the hatred and biggotry within his works to enjoy the stories in their entirety. Eldritch horror was born of xenophobia, and is characterized as horror of the unknown. What better father than someone that is utterly terrified of everything to the point of hatred?
Yeah it was hard to watch that part because, like, it wasn't some kind of self-grown racism where other people shunned him for it, people at the time were ALL like that for the most part, and the fact that it was toned down AT all is a sign that he was relatively """":"progressive"""""
Having witnessed the exact same thing before the internet was widespread, I can say that his beliefs are very reminiscent of “my parents acted this way, society seems to agree with them, and I have no conflicting sources of information, therefore this must be correct.” It wasn’t, but given how hard it was to get information around back then, I can understand where the beliefs came from, because I think just about everyone would be incredibly racist and xenophobic if that’s what they were raised in with no outside influence.
I think I'll stop bringing up/responding to Lovecraft when it comes to this topic, at least I read more about this.
Was he afraid of his potential Welsh heritage, or for being treated like other Welsh? Cause even for the times, what England did to the Welsh was pretty vile.
@@wanderbots as far as I'm aware he was afraid of his potential welsh heritage as he viewed it as sullying his pride as a pure-blooded englishman.
To be honest, there were a lot of hot takes in the vid, many of which were ill informed and born from willful ignorance and lack of a desire to listen to people. Sounds the same, I know. It's not. You even seemed to subconsciously notice you were being close minded on some topics yourself. Which, fair, not everyone's in the mood to debate hotbutton topics with random shitheels on the internet.
It's complicated, killing the author has long been discussed by people smarter than us.
"It was a different time" and yet history is filled with good people like Saladin, and bad people like Temyjin.
On the other hand, I know from personal experience that people don't become monsters overnight. A lot of people I know have parents who were previously perfectly sane, having jumped on crazy bandwagons like anti-vax in their old age.
One of my own experiences with this is Jeremy Blacks work sliding in quality, and his friendships evaporating. As he succumbed to his baser urges, and bloating ego over time. I have a hard time reconciling how much I enjoyed his early work with how much I can't forgive him for all the things he did.
With Ryan, we always thought his evil persona was a bit, and enjoyed it as part of the group dynamic. Looking back it's just weird to think about.
People also make mistakes, but if they refuse to learn from failure, or hear input, or don't care that they're hurting someone. It's not a mistake anymore, it's a choice.
I agree with the sentiment that the artist lives in their art. You can't separate Stevie Nicks' emotions from Landslide, it wouldn't be the same song anymore.
Racism and homophobia aren't political issues, they're human rights issues, and flip anyone who tries to make them political. Live and let live. I appreciate you wander for calling the person out and setting clear standards for what you will and won't tolerate. Many kudos! I watch your content often on TH-cam, but I may jump in on twitch if I happen to see you live!
I'm not american...but everything i've ever read about the Florida thing was that it meant to ban any talk about any type of sexual orientation with small kids (like kindergarten and elementary school kids), not just gay relationships...which sounds like a fair point to me :/
nope it was for all grades including highschool
@@ElectraFresh67 the stuff that i've read only specifically mentioned kindergarten and up to 3rd grade and then it gets somewhat subjective in the interpretation, but bringing stuff like this in high school would be nonsensical...i mean...i tought americans had sex ed in high school and at that point, talking about orientation would be mandatory
And selectively only punished LGBTQ people/representation.
Bans talk about sexual orientation ---> It selectively harms LGBT
I fail to see how (serious talk)
@@WorstGamer92 Because that's how it was applied. The law only matters when it is applied and only in how it is used, and when the law is exclusively used to ban LGBT sexual orientations while pretending to be overall about sexual orientation, without actually banning or ceasing any discussion about the "normative" sexual orientation., well... that's the only conclusion you can get from it.
It's super cool to have found your series, it's great to fall asleep to and pushed me to deciding I'm gonna ask for Cult of the Lamb for Christmas. You're a nice youtuber and I hope my comment helps you in the algorithm
If I were to do art, I would try my best to separate it from myself as a medium.
At some point, when I did it becomes someone else's property.
But at the same time my art is also me.
However I don't want people involved in my personal life and faults.
If were to do art, I want it to be a representation of me seperate from my self.
Part 5? Poor wander is still tired after waking up it seems.
Part 5 was so good he made it twice
I had to take a second look to make sure I wasn't going nuts lol
Nuts? No sleep deprived yes. New deck outside the office? Yes!
he fixed it!
It's been 95-100 here every day and only drops down to the high 70's at night, and since I don't have AC I've been pretty nonfunctional for the past week or so. I'm shocked I haven't made more mistakes.
i am more willing to separate the art from the artist is the artist is already deceased
It's a lot easier for me to look past an artist's actual beliefs/actions and just "enjoy their work for its own sake" when they're dead. Like HPL.
Love hp love craft and his stories but dude was a super racist
Separation of the art and the artist only works on a case by case basis. If someone is actively using their platform/money to harm people through things like spreading misinformation (JK Rolling) then death of the artist doesn't work because that person is still receiving your money. If the artist is already dead like HP Lovecraft they aren't getting your money so go ahead a buy their stuff.
Very much agree with that, I do think that a persons work can still be a good thing and should be appreciated if it have a good message in spite of how much of a piece of shit they are, but I will wait with advertising that until the money doesn't go to a shit cause anymore. Meaning the author is actually dead and the money goes to better people or the author becomes a better person.
Orson Scott Card is a good example of this, I think his messaging about understanding and communication in Enders Game is great, I am just not going to recommend people the books, until he stop being a giant homophobe and donating his money to anti-LGBTQ+ causes, or well he dies depending on where the money goes.
@@lordthor5951 He... he wrote a book about understanding and doesn't have enough of it himself to not be a homophobe?! People are fucking wild...
you can only separate the art from the artist if the art in question is not riddled with their politics. if their "art" is mostly propaganda for their politics then it's impossible to separate the two.
@@D00M3R_MAVS that’s why we should get rid of IP laws, that way if an author creates a bad work, anyone can take the good parts and make something better.
Or in other words, death to the author! Long live the new author!
@@D00M3R_MAVS I would argue that if their work is riddled with their politics then its a work with those political leanings independently of who the author is.
If a work presents PoC as subhumans and separate the art from the artist you are still going to be left with a work that present PoC as subhumans.
The music in the runs make me think of the music they play when you're against Leshy's ultimate boss form in Inscyption. Couldn't find out where I heard it before till today.
Speaking as a pastor's kid for christians, your views on that topic hit the nail on the head. It doesnt bother me to talk about this stuff because i believe such sensitivity is the main reason its such a problem these days; if something does come up that bothers me i dont show it because these conversations NEED to be had.
My dad is retiring now, and basically the district said "You can retire or we will remove you" because he didnt care for the 'business' side of it, and thats all they cared about. I had to bite my tongue when he told me that.
Kinda funny this is on a game about a Cult, but Religion is basically a legal and not quite AS drastic cult. Only religion tries to convert people, only religion gives a shit about what other people are doing in their own time, only religion tries to punish those who are curious/ask questions (in a broad term, yes non-religious people sometimes do that but 99% of the time i guarantee theyre some hyper religious person if they act that way). I tried for several years to find a church when i moved out, hoping that it was just the small-town churches my dad pastored was the problem. It wasnt, if anything they were the easy-going ones. Nothing but hate for difference, disdain for slight opinion shifts, and extreme desire to control. I said screw that and stopped trying, and ive been much happier since.
For every legit, good religious person that actually yaknow read the bible properly (i.e. noticed the part that we are supposed to not follow the old testament teachings...) and is a wonderful, kindhearted person, theres 10000 hypocrites.
Sorry, i know you commented you dont really wanna hear others opinions, but i had to say it.
Im an atheist, for anyone who wants totell me im going to hell go ahead I don’t care, and not against religion, only the kind like what you mentioned, where it is oppressive and mainly there to force people to do what they want
Hey @Wanderbots did you know that if you make a dissenting follower eat minced follower meat it has a 75 percent chance to stop the dissenting.
I tried. One of my other followers came along and ate it instead.
Love your content man you mak me so jealous on cult of the lame i want to get this game but low on funs so im saving up for it now cant wait to play it keep up the great work man 😊
I think you ment part 6 :(
Just got to this video I think this might be my favorite wanderbots video
Don't look at art as a product of an artist but as a child of the artist. Art should be allowed to have a life outside of their creators.
Death of the Artist always seemed like a bit of a cop out to me. No man is an island anymore than any work is made in an intellectual vacuum.
Nothing brings me greater comfort than knowing the content creator I support believes so strongly in human rights thank u Wander
You just gained a TREMENDOUS amount of respect from me! I know in this hateful toxic world on social media it's hard to speak up sometimes, but you still did! Congratulations 😍😍😍
Also the only agenda us gay people have is
1 don't get ra**ed
2 don't get ki**ed
3 don't get ba**ed
For being who we are. It's that simple
Fully agree with you on most of what you said regarding rights, which is extremely refreshing to see in a creator. Though I personally am of the opinion that no matter how bad the original work, the community around it can make it something that the original author ISN'T part of, one of the reasons I enjoy lovecraftian stuff isnt because of the man himself but because the elaborations that people he's known or even weird headcanons and fanfictions I've read have incorporated. It's the same with Harry Potter, looking back its a very...I don't want to say its a bad world but its very questionable (slave races, mind wiping government, "everyone in this specific school house is evil", etc.) and yet some of the works I've read made by people completely unrelated to Rowling are incredible, hell I literally have something on my watchlist about Gordon Ramsay being inserted into the setting to add some much needed support to the children.
I would Never work for those scummy companies for the reason they think they can steal anyone's personal projects. Bad business practices should be an immediate shut down since copyright really does work if used properly. I've had someone demand my project thinking they owned it and didn't miss a beat, and said "Over my dead body". Their shocked expression was hilarious XD.
No one owns my stuff but me.
Wanderbots? More like WanderBASED
absolutely based take on not being able to separate art from the artist
"Devolver isthe best indie games publisher in the market"
That depends entirely on how much you value the indie /developer/ making the games, Devolver is always taking the entirety of the spotlight away from the developers, hell most peopole dont ever realise that devolveris a publisher rather than just a very efficient developer house, and the vast majority of devolver deals ends with single release indie studios cause they get crushed by that whole having 0 recognition thing and so cant drive their momentum to continuing on
I'm not so sure that DD is bad for their published studios brand recognition/continued success.
The devs behind Titan Souls, Hotline Miami, Serious Sam, Gungeon, Reigns, Shadow Warrior, Stories Untold, Absolver, Minit, The Messenger seem to all be doing rather well last I checked, are still making games, and will likely continue to work with Devolver.
I'm sure there are some issues, but from where I stand I haven't seen any yet.
@@wanderbots Given how many games they publish yes some make it out and continue on, but there is a longggggggg string of studios that get lost behind DD.
To be clear nit saying they're /bad/ just there's still a lot to be desired from them in terms of pushing the developers they publish forwards rather than themselves, but then again guess that's just capitalism in a nutshell
The Twitch integration is cool. If this game wasn't already going to be popular, it will not because of this... I've never seen a game with such integration (but then I don't go on twitch so I don't get to see this stuff very often)
love this game bro bro, start putting your people to work and level them up. there your biggest assets!
People who complain about things "getting political" are generally just insecure about the fact that most people seem to disagree with their politics and not people who's opinions you need to take seriously. Keep doing what you're doing.
29:17 totlly thought he was talking to the outhouse for a second there
I love you as a creator and a person
Wanderbot you are over clearing in your crusades, you cult is hurting while you pick up grass you will never use (you have so much)
Yeah I figured that out as soon as I started to do 2-depth runs. The time limit is real.
I think you can enjoy the art divorced from the artist. But you are within your right to say their tainted reputation ruins the experience for you. And an artist should be mindful of their reputation for that very reason.
At this point, those people are not having a discussion, they are just trying to push their bullshit as the truth and you are just not gonna have any conversation with those people.
Part 6?
40:46 thank you
(Any/all)
Came for the new game content, stayed because of how respectful and wonderful you are. As someone who wants to become a game dev, hearing someone be so passionate about holding companies accountable when they're shitty was so refreshing, hearing compassion when it comes to redemption was uplifting and as a trans man I smiled so wide when you said Trans Rights without a shred of hesitation. You are not only a great entertainer but a great person too.
The amount of games you have played is impressive
They were probably potheads I guarantee it🤣
Wanderbots: come for the games, stay for the outspokenness about serious issues. From workplace unionization to LGBTQ+ rights. :D
BTW for a really good short and humorous summary of HP Lovecrafts life and works i can recommend "Overly Sarcastic productions" they did an amazing halloween special on him. th-cam.com/video/PmdzptbykzI/w-d-xo.html
A lot of people don’t want to hear creators’ politics. I do. It’s important to me that I know that I share values and morals with the people I watch. Love ya Wander, thanks for supporting everyone being themselves.
Just want to let you know you are amazing! Thank you for standing up for what is right and not backing down on your comments! You have become one of my favorite youtubers because of this!
Wander: not eating meat makes you crazy!
Explains vegans then
Anyone see the part where he literally needed wood to build his stockade and he got extra food which he had plenty of?
Ahh, but there was one down the line, I played myself
I was thinking that as well, especially as the time was ticking past and was saying to myself, 'Guy, just grab the wood and speedrun these levels, you literally don't have all day'.
But I don't even know the artists behind most things I enjoy! So many parks, buildings, paintings, vases, decorations, fiction, movies.... thousands of artists whose work I interact with weekly and I don't know a single one of them! How could the artist have any influence over my enjoyment of any of those under those circumstances? Shall I smash my bowls as soon as the potter is fined or jailed? The implications are nuts to me :D
I came to see you play found out you are an amazing decent person
I think it was good and interesting to hear you talk about studios and industry pasta
47:01 Your tangent here got me to do the youtube things. You're not close-minded, you're inadvertently following the guidance of the paradox of tolerance - if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant will be seized or destroyed by the intolerant, so you naturally have limits on your tolerance.
thank you
You can break the training dummies and the worshiping altar during your run for some resources
Honestly hell yeah, your answers to questions were really direct and uncompromising. One complaint: you started talking about why Harry Potter sucks, but didn't get to finish that thought
Another entertaining vid but gotta admit that, though I do align with some of your views, I could not help but think a bit of hypocrisy and close mindedness had seeped into your convo. But really respected your engaging with your audience even if you did not agree with them.
It's a closed mindedness borne through years of open mindedness. Ultimately when someone wants to argue against human rights, they're not worth listening to.
Paradox of tolerance and all that.
I think that the topic of conversation is a contentious one and I think that it should be that way. Rights do conflict and that conflicting nature is the reason that it is so hard to pin down, I would be worried if an absolute opinion had been reached..
Cheers to Wander teaching people how to be reasonable and respect each other!
I mean if ya didn't realize- you just KILLED Barbatos.
He deserted, became a boss, and you KILLED him.
Dude deserved it. I cherished him and he stabbed me in the back.
@@wanderbots Didn’t you NOT have reeducation facilities or prisons??
None at the time. Until that point it didn't seem necessary. Alas.
@@wanderbots Should keep a closer eye on things- you might lose more and more of your older members because you can't keep grips on them or maintain promised requests.
Personally, as it regards the whole "separating the artist from their work", I'm of the opinion that conversation doesn't *start* until the author cannot actually profit from their work. Like, the Lovecraft debate is a worthwhile one, to me, because his work is public domain, and thus even independent of the entire genre's worth of works that ultimately derive from his writings, purchasing his books does not financially support his implicitly highly biased views anymore. On the flipside, I personally can't in good conscience continue to engage with the Harry Potter franchise because it provides substantial financial incentive to JK Rowling, and tacitly condoning her views.
In short, an artwork in its original form is inseparable from the artist while the artist still profits off the artworks' success. And even then, depending on the author and the work in question, it should be an ongoing debate as to whether or not it is worth attempting to separate an artist from their work on a case-by-case basis.
I agree that you should be who you want to be- except if what you want to be is a rap*st or a Mapper.
But I have also heard the stories of people who were pushed by others around them, specifically to transition, even when they didn't actually believe they were in the wrong body. It should be normalized to let you be who you really are, but some communities that seem to elevate it above being normalized, and instead want their personal preferences to be idolized, to be seen as better, more moral, and such.
And no, before anyone says it, I don't believe being gay or bi or anything is abnormal. I'm Ace, for example. But others do seem to think that being gay, for example, is a point of pride, like it makes them better than others. Sure, be proud of who you are- but don't think you're better just because you like guys or girls or whatever. You can't define yourself solely around your orientation. That's as shallow as defining yourself solely by your religion, or other aspects.
That is my opinion, which was unasked for, but I still felt compared to share.
Holy crap I just had 3 ads in a row. Wtf TH-cam?
I used to love humble bundle, but they changed how choice monthly actually works and cut the amount of games from 12 to 8, and they're usually pretty mediocre titles.
Can't wait for this game to come out it's going to be lit and hopefully the launch won't be as bad as no man's sky that one was pretty bad but they made up for it unlike for some companies fallout 76 war zone and every single mobile game that was garbage
I know I saw Desparados III, a Devolver published game, on the game pass a few months back. I had to play it as part of a college class about game design.
probably a lesser known game or just not a good one that was popular. devolver have stuff that is not as popular... even some of their really good games. they had so many come out pre covid that some fell by the wayside. I can probably name 5 devolver games that are amazing, but never became popular due to market saturation at the time.
stuff like katana zero and my friend pedro that are amazing games, but never seemed to gain the wide spread popularity. they'll likely end up on game pass, too (if they haven't already)
I think the messenger did better, but probably in the same ballpark.
So this is the part 5 I thought was skipped.
Thank you for speaking your opinions. You talked about a point that is very important to me.
By letting children be well educated and exposed to other lifestyles and people who are different than them, those children are harder to influence and are much more capable of making their own opinions AND that those opinions are less likely to be hateful. Close minded people want others to be uneducated and sheltered because otherwise they will be alone with their hate.
I know it's hard to talk about tough opinion on the spot period, let alone while playing a game so bravo and thank you for speaking up anyways
Kar spittin facts
i disagree on lovecraft because i view him as merely one of the collective writers of a collective mythos but people chose to over emphasize him
Based Wanderbots!
Dude this episode turned into a political conversation lol I bet Jayden Smith would love this episode hehe
Byebye barbatos, you will be missed :'(
Yeah I don't get why people judge and condemn someone for that i may not be gay but I would still respect them just for the fact that they're human and it's also kinda funny when someone is homophobic and says that people who aren't straight are bad or like worship satan but for some reason the people who are gay or lesbian act infinitely better than them most of the time. like dude let them make their own choices
over 7,100 languages and you chose to speak facts
wait
you can get banned in comments?
Yup. I can banish people to the shadow realm. It's super handy for zapping jerks.
@@wanderbots fair enough
I'd say "wonder how its looking down there" but...I don't wanna be mean
to anybody, anyhow great content, have a good day
There are some pretty unpleasant takes there, and a lot of name calling.
@@wanderbots sad that such happens
also didn't expect this chat but, thank you
the whole sozo thing with the mushrooms is a a nod to Led Zeppelin or something isn't it? the one that bought Crowley's house in Scotland. I think it's zeppelin.
Wander calling someone a goon brings me joy
It's a super polite way of saying "Fascist", that's for sure.
Hmmmm part 5 you say?
you would be suprised how often company resources are used to fund "own time creations"...the smart person develops and leaves
I'm sure that happens quite often, but I'm specifically referring to creations done entirely outside of work that companies still lay claim to. Amazon has/used to have such a clause, with the caveat that any project started beforehand didn't count, leading to the super silly response of developers making extremely basic design documents of all their ideas right before their start date to protect themselves.
@@wanderbots i hear ya, the bigger the company, the worse it is. But they cant monitor who and what people are doing so they just try and cover everything which screws most people over. But those policies are wirtten in stolen games....
Lovecraft was a bad person, and that's important to remember when you read his stories, but the Mythos is not Lovecraft. It can be enjoyed even if the creator was a shit person. It has also evolved beyond him and has been influenced by other authors.
Thanks for speaking up for us! really appreciate it.
@@davisdelp8131 Human rights isn't a political issue. There is no "both sides", you are either for human rights, or you are not.
@@davisdelp8131 you're watching a video game about starting a cult, are you really expecting there to be no sensitive topics here?
@@davisdelp8131 why do you think it's necessary to add this to me just thanking Wander for being nice to me?
is it so important to you to tell people that you hate hearing about queer and trans rights, that you need to spoil the moment for us?
@@janschropfer439 most trans people would never care to tell cis people that they need human rights if they weren't debated 24/7 that they don't have rights to bodily autonomy and own choices.
I know it is not because of your everyday cis people, I know quite a few of those. But religious zealots and other retards pretty much spoiled it for the normal ones by trying to force trans people into reeducation camps.
So in the end most trans people don't mind cis people, but they hate the topics around it, for example their basic right to live. it's fucking exhausting to need to fight for every inch of space where you don't get told that you don't deserve to live.
I hope this can somehow show why a TH-camr saying "trans rights are human rights" can be so important. and i hope you can ignore that someone is talking about a topic that you dislike for the actual benefits of vulnerable people getting a voice to protect them. I know it can be hard and annoying, i was there too.
I'm so sorry that you had to deal with this. Some people just can't stand other folks being happy or kind sometimes.
Very nice, very nice. You were a class act in this, Wander.
This game looks very, very spiral knighty......damn I miss that game. Hasn't been updated in so long so its almost not worth playing anymore......
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Well at least hello games are at least listening to the people for no Man's sky and other games more or less. And they are doing good. Rockstar and GTA v lots of people are getting angry over something I have not been paying attention
Transdude here. I think one thing people forget is how far trans rights have moved forward in the last 20 years. I'm in my 30s and when I was a teenager I didn't even know there was FtM trans people - there just was nothing out there other than the rancid ass Ace Ventura or Silence of the Lambs trans women tropes. Took me 15 years to finally get on hormones - "kids these days" are literally able to go out and start transitioning without going through even a fraction of what I did (even if things still aren't perfect), and that's so fucking cool to me. Nowadays I see a lot of the "but they're transing the kids!" shit is like... boomer grandpa dinosaur bullshit. Like the future is now, old man, get with it or get out.
Ironic.
tldr: categories are stupid, everyone can be racist, contact with other ethnicities and "social layers" (don't know how to say this in english) is good for kids
in my personal experience:
1. people who fear trans and lgbtq are too weak to be themselfes or are stuck in their way of thinking because of their education or the society they grew up in
2. having a sterotype and being racist can be different things
3. sadly, the most racist people who i ever met were a gay couple, they were friends of my parents and my mother booted them out after they demonstrated not being able to accept other ethnicities
which just proves that putting into categories like this doesn't make a lick of sense since stupid or "narrow minded people" (which is the polite way of saying stupid) are everywhere
4. growing up in a very diverse area showed me, that most of the time the parents project their stupidity onto their children and when your children have enough contact with different groups of people this imprint of stupidity can be damped and from generation to generation we become better people
Chicken Tenties. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Wanderbot is based BTW.
Hey Wander, great video and content as always, and just a little personal thank you from a NB fan. Speaking out against societal discrimination is never an easy thing, particularly in a public forum, and especially without the anonymity that those who use their negative world views to put down others often rely upon. Thank you for doing even just your own little bit to make this world happier, safer, and more accepting. Again, great video, I can't wait for this game, I'm certainly going to sink far too many hours to justify into this game
I can tell that I don’t agree with you on all of your politics, but hey, who cares? You make great content man! Keep up the good work!
I just want more videos being uploaded
Tired of those 44mins videos with 5 double ads every 8mins xD ahahaha
I am asking to seeing if my views are toxic or okay cuz personal growth. My view is I want everyone to be themselves but no the the point it's a bother to others. Have your sexuality or religion or both but don't take force it on others. Idk is that a negative stance
The thing is, 99.999% of LGBTQ+ people aren't forcing it on anyone else, and the ones that are tend to either be actually mentally ill or just plain fake.
Yes there are things like drag queen storytimes, but considering churches get to do the same thing I don't see why it's a problem. They're optional anyway.
Most just want to be left alone and to have the same rights as everyone else, but since they're such an easy political target a lot of right wing media keeps making up some seriously heinous garbage about them.