The ULTIMATE Wooting Switch Showdown! Wooting 80HE Sound Comparison

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  • @leoclacks
    @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Mini Review:
    Hey everyone! Since the Wooting 80HE is finally in people's hands, I thought it would be helpful to showcase a sound test of some of the most popular Hall Effect switches so you can find the perfect match for your preferred sound and feel!
    In this video, we’ll be testing:
    Lekker Switches (V2)
    Black Knight Switches
    TTC King of Magnetic Switch
    Gateron OG Jades
    Gateron Jade Pros (the best in my opinion)
    Gateron Jade Max
    Geon RAW HE
    Stem Wobble Comparison:
    The V2 Lekker switches have tighter tolerances but still a bit wobbly in my opinion.
    Black Knights have a box stem but are also somewhat wobbly.
    The TTCs have almost no horizontal wobble, but vertical wobble is similar to the Lekkers and Black Knights.
    Gateron OG Jades show almost no vertical wobble and a bit of horizontal wobble.
    Gateron Jade Pros have a small amount of both horizontal and vertical wobble.
    Gateron Jade Max has almost no vertical wobble and just a tiny bit of horizontal wobble.
    The Geon RAW HE overall has the least stem wobble, with a bit of vertical but almost no horizontal wobble.
    RGB Compatibility:
    When it comes to handling RGB in both South and North-facing directions, the Gateron Jade Max stands out as the clear winner - the installation direction doesn't seem to matter much.
    Factory Lube Comparison:
    Lekker Switches: Rails are lubed, and there’s a small amount of lube at the bottom of the spring.
    Black Knights: Only the rails are lubed, with the spring appearing dry.
    TTC Magnetos: Only the bottom of the spring is lubed, and the rest is completely dry.
    Gateron OG Jade: Rails are lubed, but the spring is dry.
    Gateron Jade Pros & Jade Max: Both are fully lubed at every contact point (all around the Stem + Rails) including the stem pole.
    Geon RAW HE: A bit of lube on the rails, with most on the stem pole.
    My Personal Favorites:
    I really enjoy the Gateron Jade Pros and Geon RAWs, but I also appreciate the deeper clack of the Gateron Jade Max. The Black Knight switches and Lekkers feel good, but they tend to have a “dead” sound typical of Hall Effect switches, however if you don't care about sound these will be totally fine. As for the TTC Magnetos, I’d rank them in the middle-they feel better than the Lekkers and Black Knights, but the plasticky sound isn’t for me.
    Drop a comment if you have any questions, and enjoy the sound test!

  • @sa17dk
    @sa17dk หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    no yapping, straight to the soundtest, different audio samples, wide range of switches. 10/10 video

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sa17dk 🫶

    • @Tomatobear8
      @Tomatobear8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No yapping,start tapping

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tomatobear8 😂

  • @Sammyzookii
    @Sammyzookii หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Wow the pros and maxes sounds great af

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      YES finally we are getting good switches :D

  • @destroyerdestroyer6790
    @destroyerdestroyer6790 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this innovative and great video. Super shots. Wooting love ❤️

  • @LS-is5ob
    @LS-is5ob หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Finally a clean soundtest 🔥

  • @MarkAdrian07
    @MarkAdrian07 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Initially tried my zinc 80he with TTC magnetos and instantly returned them because they were too loud. Went with the geon raws instead, couldn't be happier. Finished it off using cerakeys 😁

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oooffff that must sound soo good haha

    • @vinhsannguyen2100
      @vinhsannguyen2100 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      are the cerakeys not too heavy? i personally have the ws dashes but im afraid that the spring just isnt strong enough to make the keys feel responsive as the TTC magnetos would be able to

  • @Grimlo9ic
    @Grimlo9ic หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My first batch of GEON Raws were the 40g ones, and they sounded great but were too light. So I got the 60g ones instead thinking it'd be closest to the feel of the Zakus, which I was on for the longest time. But now I feel like 50g is the sweet spot LOL. Unfortunately for me, that's the exact one that's sold out at the moment.

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel you haha. I’ve used to main opblacks with the stock 64g spring :D 40g definitely too light

  • @jR0xas
    @jR0xas หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I'm a geon raw he enjoyer personally but all of these sound pretty good.

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm also currently on the Raws :D

    • @Aerobrake
      @Aerobrake หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      likewise my guy

    • @tacomn
      @tacomn 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@leoclacks What weight?

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tacomn 40g! But i find them too light. I would probably go with 50g.

  • @whoonga
    @whoonga หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think the sound test you are making with the LCT 140 air could be improved if you don't have the mic on the same table as the keyboard. At least to me it sounds like the mic is picking up the vibrations from the table when you type something. But still a great comparison :)

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed 100%

  • @SqueakyTypes
    @SqueakyTypes หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great comparison! Thank you for this!

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SqueakyTypes thanks for watching 🫶

  • @letenshi
    @letenshi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clean review from mister babachonky as always

  • @TheDokoBG
    @TheDokoBG หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those lekker v2 60's sound really decent. I already have the Jade MAx, Regular Jade, Jade amethyst limited edition. Just ordered some Lekker V2 60's to try. Currently im using the Jade Max

    • @TheDokoBG
      @TheDokoBG หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just installed the Lekker V2's on my ATK RS7 Pro and I love them the most out of my switches ! The spring in these Lekker V2s feels stronger than the Jade MAx, and the button returns faster. The lekkers feel more of a "gaming" switch IMO. For now, im going to use the Lekkers. The sound is also kind of marbelly and deeper in my ATK keyboard. Another positive point is that these Lekker switches are kind of cheaper than the Gateron equivalents which is great.

  • @TristanPope
    @TristanPope หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Geon Raw and Jade Pro are a very similar sound profile and I would say they are both my favorites. Which did you end up sticking to?
    A shame about the Maxes not being in the same category as the jade pros though cause the RBG they produce is great.

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm using the raw switches right now, but I'm planning to switch back to the Jade Max soon. I'm not sure which one I'll stick with since I also have a zinc alloy case coming, so I probably switch it up again :D

    • @TristanPope
      @TristanPope หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@leoclacks Yeah I had sticking issues with the Max. So hesitant to use full time. I have the Jade Pro's in for now.

  • @inlund
    @inlund หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For a small cc the video quality is top notch

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      🫶

  • @christiancabiles8498
    @christiancabiles8498 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The jade pro and the black knight sound really good they have less to none of the hollow spring rattle sound that plague HE switches. They are really close to sounding like mechanical switches

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@christiancabiles8498 true but sadly the factory lube on the black knights is super inconsistent:(

  • @SamLeath
    @SamLeath หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You should try the Neo lavender switches. I have a short video on them. I have the maxes coming in Tuesday. Very little coverage on the lavenders but i think they sound and feel pretty good after lubing

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Been told that they are very similar to the jade pros will check out your short once i get home! :)

    • @SamLeath
      @SamLeath หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@leoclacks thanks man. I think I’d be cool for someone getting more exposure to cover them so more people know they’re another good option

  • @thawzie
    @thawzie หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    music to my ears

  • @jerrorr
    @jerrorr หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing vid!

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      🐐

  • @xiangxiang7
    @xiangxiang7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for your video, it is really helpful! However, what is the default switch type for wooting two HE?

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xiangxiang7 Lekker V1 i believe :)!

  • @Aerobrake
    @Aerobrake หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    in my personal experiemce I would not recommend anyone buy the jade maxes. they use a pc stem which is known to have problem with friction even when lubed. it feels like its stepping and you don't have full control over them defeating the purpose of magnetic switches. additionally they stick more to a keycap than to the switch plate which is very concerning and may damage ABS keycaps.
    I would suggest the Geonworks Raw HE for best performance and sound per dollar with many weight choices and the tightest tolerances and least stem wobble while having the least or 2nd least amont of friction I have ever felt in a switch in my life (this is based on my own experience with Lekker L60, L60v2, jade, jade maxes and Raw HE). I like the deeper sound profile and aesthetic of the switch but it just doesnt feel good in use.

    • @Aerobrake
      @Aerobrake หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      to be specific the jade maxes work fine only when pressing directly down. slightly off axis and you will feel stepping abd some amount of friction, not even lube could fix it.

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Aerobrake i heard that issue a few times now, not sure if it’s a qc thing but i haven’t ran into it at all (luckily) :D

    • @clarkettinger6958
      @clarkettinger6958 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "they stick more to a keycap than to the switch plate which is very concerning and may damage ABS keycaps." How would that damage the keycaps or be concerning at all? different plates use different tolerances, for example some designers use 19.05mm, some use just 19mm. Additionally, larger stem tolerances are beneficial as with low friction thermoplastics I have had many problems with keycaps falling off due to a lack of connection between the stem and switch
      How is pc known to have a problem with friction, the aqua kings are a full pc switch and are held in a very high regard to be extremely smooth. If the switch has problems with scratchiness, that is the fault of a poor choice of two thermoplastics, and has nothing to do with pc on it's own.
      Finally, what the fuck does the "performance" of a switch even begin to mean, they all do the same thing, none of them do it better than others. Some might be more comfortable, or more pleasurable to use for a given individual, but that doesn't even begin to mean that it has a "better performance"

    • @Frozoken
      @Frozoken หลายเดือนก่อน

      l45 v2 will be the best for pure performance because they're designed for the board. The raw he doesn't have the same travel distance as the lekkers which is the problem

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Frozoken they all work as intended and all perform the same :) travel distance doesn't effect performance. it's just wether you like the feel or not!

  • @Haru0_o96
    @Haru0_o96 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    did you lube the geon raw he or any of them just wondering

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Haru0_o96 they‘re all stock

  • @yasirabdulhakeem
    @yasirabdulhakeem หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you have any suggestions for compatible silent HE switches? I think the closest in this video was the GUGU Black Knights (and outside this video, Gateron KS-20 Whites), but even those don't sound all that quiet. Maybe it is an impossible compromise, but would appreciate the recommendation

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yasirabdulhakeem heyy thanks for watching! at the moment there aren’t any wooting compatible silent switches (atleast that i know of) but i think gateron is about to release one soon :)

    • @inkiblackman2625
      @inkiblackman2625 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Gateron ones are out now!

  • @schnozzola
    @schnozzola 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am tempted to buy a 80he, 2 questions. 1) i really want the frost case, worth it? Or ghost better? 2) better route, getting lekker v2 or buying jade pros?

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@schnozzola 1) absolute preference. The cases are exactly the same quality and material. You just have to decide wether you prefer translucent black or a regular translucent look. Maybe think about which keycaps you want to use, that’s usually what i do :)
      2) Performance: absolutely no difference.
      Sound: Huge difference, lekkers are quieter, less clacky but also feel a tiny bit more wobbly and less smooth.
      Jade Pros sound loud and clacky, feel smoother but also feel a tiny bit heavier when compared to the l45 lekkers.
      Clear top housing and white bottom which is great for rgb on the lekkers.
      On the jade pros you always have a slight tint -> if you want to setup an all white backlight, it will be slightly blueish/greenish.
      In the end it’s just a preference thing. In my opinion there’s no wrong or right, just wether you like the sound or not.
      In my own opinion the Jade Pros are the best Hall Effect Switches available right now but there’s a lot of people that don’t like the loud clacky sound they produce and you’re best bet for a quieter switch are definitely the lekkers.

    • @schnozzola
      @schnozzola 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@leoclacks i appreciate the thorough reply!!!

  • @Whoop226
    @Whoop226 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do you get the space bar to sound so deep? Also what mods do you have on your keyboard to help it sound like this, I get my wooting zinc 80he in a month and loved the way yours sounded! The jade maxes sound perfect

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      No mods :) just syringe lubed the stabs with dielectric grease!

  • @lahmacunyum1215
    @lahmacunyum1215 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you notice any problems with the gateron jade max switches?

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lahmacunyum1215 i didn’t have any issues however i‘ve heard others have trouble with chattering keystrokes

  • @bobjoe2604
    @bobjoe2604 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    for a thockier sound would it be better to get the zinc case or the plastic case?

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bobjoe2604 usually plastic is your best bet for deeper sounding boards!
      However if you want the zinc case and want to make it sound deeper there are plenty of ways, like adding noico, trying out different fill materials etc.
      Can’t speak if those would work on the Zinc Case though, as I‘ve haven’t tried it yet :(

    • @bobjoe2604
      @bobjoe2604 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@leoclacks thanks for the response!! sounds like plastic might be the play :)

  • @nxu.m3403
    @nxu.m3403 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I see you got the 40g Geon Raws, do you think they were too light or wha?

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nxu.m3403 too light for my liking! I would probably go with the 50g :)

    • @nxu.m3403
      @nxu.m3403 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ I ordered the 40g - If I’m not in love I might swap the springs from the v60 Lekkers lol

  • @Amazaki_Shirabu
    @Amazaki_Shirabu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope the shape of the switch can be equalized like mechanical switch

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you mean?

  • @Tomatobear8
    @Tomatobear8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yea a wooting video again😃

  • @hjshoon5244
    @hjshoon5244 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i still searching for slient HE switches..

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not available yet 😢 but gateron will release some soon ;)

    • @hjshoon5244
      @hjshoon5244 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@leoclacks that’s good news! Will keep an eye out for it. Thanks

    • @YDINO69
      @YDINO69 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hope so for my 60HE ​@@leoclacks

    • @yangyue20
      @yangyue20 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hjshoon5244dude please kick my ass to let me know when the silent switches released

  • @phrankdatank
    @phrankdatank หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not sure why the WS Dash are not in this stacking .... Dash by far the best HE switches. Not my opinon .... Facts!

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are a Jade recolor :)!

  • @ronald0122
    @ronald0122 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i have a 60he+ (not the module) but preassembled. do i need to change something else like stabilizers or can i just replace the currently lekker 60 v1 switch with the geon he 50 gr? i play fps games a lot.

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ronald0122 you can just put them in without any issue :)! I also have the non module 60he prebuilt and they work fine!

    • @ronald0122
      @ronald0122 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@leoclacks so no issues with spacebar because of the difference in travel distance? i heard some people changed the stabilizers. would you recommend me the geon raw he 50gr or something else. i play fps games like cs2/valorant a lot.

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ nope i didn’t. The geons should be perfectly fine :)

  • @danielho87
    @danielho87 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video

    • @noballsbigshaft4486
      @noballsbigshaft4486 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The TTC switches are equal to the rest in terms of gaming performance. So the answer is no.

    • @sandwich-plays
      @sandwich-plays 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      TTC King of Magnetic has the most stable stem which helps with accuracy, but honestly it doesnt change much at all

  • @iitbftw
    @iitbftw 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hi! I'm a newbie in the keyboard game. Is it possible to switch out the springs in the Geon RawHEs to increase actuation force? I would like to use some metal keycaps and am concerned for some of the heavier keys.

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iitbftw hey hey, hall effect switches usually have larger stems and therefore springs with a larger diameter, so regular switch springs won’t fit! But geon also offers a 60g version which should probably be enough (?). Personally I‘ve never used metal keycaps so i‘m not entirely sure how heavy the springs would need to be, especially in combination with low actuation points…

  • @Alby911
    @Alby911 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For all the glazing over RAW HE's, there is literally no difference to other switches; other than the terrible short travel distance. Great video!

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think the excitement around their release came from being the first to create a decent-sounding HE switch after the original Jades. But with the new Jade Pros and Max versions, I feel like the hype might start to fade a bit. Thanks for watching!

    • @Alby911
      @Alby911 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@leoclacks Sadly it's another case of simps creating fomo that this hobby runs on. So much so that apparently Gateron are bad at what they do, and Geon is some all-conquering keyboard god. LOL. *I do like his work fwiw

    • @tacomn
      @tacomn 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@leoclacks So you prefer the jade pro to the geon raw he then?

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tacomn yup. I think they feel the best overall.

  • @jasondinh5217
    @jasondinh5217 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which ones the lightest?

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would pick the 40g geon raws or the jade and jade pros. The raws have a consistent feel unlike the jades that get heavier the further you press down (for faster rebound: 35gf->50gf)

  • @YDINO69
    @YDINO69 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Please do the same do the 60HE with stock case

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Will do a follow up with all the different 60he cases :)

  • @RubiAUT
    @RubiAUT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk if should buy a wooting 80he module with L45s or an assembled with L60.

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I personally got the module because i don’t like Wootings Keycaps. The l45 and l60 was a gift for preorders :)

    • @RubiAUT
      @RubiAUT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@leoclacks But if i want L45s, I can only get them by buying a module, so i‘m asking you if the L60 are good or if i should get it with L45s

    • @RubiAUT
      @RubiAUT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@leoclacks I would have to spend an extra 50€ if i want L45s on a prebuilt

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RubiAUT they sound the same. One is lighter one is heavier. If you like a light switch go with l45 if you like a medium/heavier switch l60. Most pros go with lighter switches as they are less fatiguing

    • @RubiAUT
      @RubiAUT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@leoclacks Ok, because i need it for competitive gaming, but im just gonna try the L60s and then maybe switch to L45 if they are fatiguing. Thanks

  • @StevenP015
    @StevenP015 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whoa whoa woah those jade pros 🔥🔥🔥

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Y E S

  • @MrDragonorp
    @MrDragonorp 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lekker 45 the most muted and my favorite

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrDragonorp yup! They are definitely nice!

  • @theillmeister
    @theillmeister หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lets fookin gooooooooo reooooo

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theillmeister YAAHAHAH

  • @WZRD..
    @WZRD.. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what keycaps u using?

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WZRD.. meletrix yamanote line

  • @willtypes
    @willtypes หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Should try the everglide rice pudding and sticky rice V2

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would love to! Problem is that they aren’t available from any eu vendors which would result in taxes and high shipping costs :(

    • @caoimhghinocadhla7718
      @caoimhghinocadhla7718 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@leoclacks What EU vendor do you use ? Mechkeys that you linked is a Hongkong vendor. Do you know if the TCC Magneto RGB are the same as the regular ones when it comes to sound and feel? I am thinking of getting either those or the Jade Max.

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@caoimhghinocadhla7718 heyy so i got them from mechkeys, i don't think that there are any eu vendors offering them atm. as for the rgb version they should sound the same but i'm not 100% sure as i can't find any info on the bottom housing material

    • @caoimhghinocadhla7718
      @caoimhghinocadhla7718 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@leoclacks Thanks for the answer, couldn´t find any EU vendor that is why I asked. I do like the sound of the Jade max more but I have seen a few people write that they get stuck sometimes. Have you experienced this?

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@caoimhghinocadhla7718 it seems to be a qc issue. I personally haven’t had it happen and I’ve been using the Kade Max for a couple of days now.

  • @Xue_Hu
    @Xue_Hu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was wondering if the gateroins switches would still be programable in the wooting software

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes :)

  • @aqrcn4124
    @aqrcn4124 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WS Dash sound the best😊

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are a Jade Recolor :)!

  • @sharkosaurfps
    @sharkosaurfps หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is peak

    • @leoclacks
      @leoclacks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      :D