Book - Isn't that cheating? - I don't think so. It's more like playing on Hard Mode as one of the finest exchanges throughout the 3 seasons. Xander, you da man!
Douglas Mccoy not that hard really, it’s just playing a Malk on the first playthrough is either spoiler-y or pure gibberish depending on your knowledge of the setting, atleast you don’t have to sneak everywhere and the dialogue options are mostly opened. Nos on the first playthrough is the actual hard mode.
He rolled Strauss' hearing check when Victor and Jasper were debating fleeing from the Labyrinth, and the following "You may as well join us, Neonates!" made Jasper clench so hard, he could cut Victor's cigars.
I'm definitely more terrified of the latter. "I will make a note" means a future scene just got created. Dice rolling means some shit just happened. :-s
She's not, not actively, if I got the meaning right from X's ramblings. She doesn't need to. It's just that he can't explain about the Malkavian Madness Network. But it's not like it's the internet, she can't pluck specific information out of it at will, but the information is there, because every Malkavian is connected. That's why he says "anyone could know". And yes, Therese is a 6th gen powerhouse, specially when it comes to mind games. It was funny when Suzanne tough she could get into her mind impune, like she does with everyone else...
I must say, Chloe is a very manipulative woman, very clever too, she’s very possibly one of the most dangerous side-characters so far, and it doesn’t help that the two people who found her are probably the easiest manipulated out of the group. At the same time, thought she’s very naive, she has no idea the dangers of kindred life and seems to think she can just bullsh*t her way through everything, she is horribly underestimating the entirety of the kindred and is going to get herself killed very soon. Manipulative and naive are a very bad combination indeed, she’s going to cause way more damage than she realises to herself and others. Also, knowing what we do about Jasper, how he ‘used to be similar to how he is now’ it sounds like he was maybe getting involved in some dangerous business, and she was probably somehow linked too, this girl is in a lot of danger, and doesn’t seem to have any concept of the consequences.
I know it's been three years since this was commented but I just have to say, I think she's the most frustrating (if not infuriating, personally) character on this show, she says and thinks she knows so much because she does know way more than any ghoul sensibly should but she only knows marginally more than most individual kindred and understands absolutely nothing, she's like a 6 year old who hears her parents arguing and talking constantly and though she can relay all of what she hears she is completely naive to all of it. She's not necessarily a bad character, I just struggle immensely to understand what is going through her head to think any of what she's doing is sensible whatsoever, especially with the "I didn't say anything!" remarks constantly, I can't tell if she actually believes it or not, she's so evidently incredibly smart but has absolutely no wisdom whatsoever and I struggle envisioning a future where she lives for any more than a month from this point unless she's held ransom, then maybe two.
@@someq. she's not taking any of it seriously because losing jasper drove her insane with grief is how i see it. she doesn't care if she dies because she needs to be in his life, and if he won't let her, then she'll get as close as she can and risk her life to do so. doing all the investigating etc. etc. is just her falling back on a coping mechanism and using the skills she has as a journalist.
@@leocitywrestling7029 Nosferatu debatably has it the hardest, but from a player standpoint Malkavians are by far the hardest to roleplay in a meaningful way
55:35 - 'I've been.. getting all your texts." Camarilla Response - 'Punish and then Destroy the ghoul. PUBLICLY. Sanitize their online presence. Erase every trace of their existence. Use her as an example of why we shy away from tech. And SOMEONE FIND OUT WHO GHOULED HER SO THE HARPY CAN NAIL THEIR ASS TO THE WALL TOO." Sabbat Response - '... Wait seriously? Someone pass me a shovel. TIME TO JOIN THE FAM, KIDDO." Anarch Response - ' *sigh..* Whatever. Just drink up and stuff.' edit: also I love how Jason just nods like "yuuuuuup."
Does anyone else think it was somewhat uncharacteristic for Eva (and to some extent Jasper) to have left Chloe hanging like that after having formally taken responsibility for her?
I concur, but in that case it's a bit odd that neither Eva nor Jasper raised the alarm. I'd have thought that such a high-profile ghoul slipping the leash would be pretty high priority even given the recent turmoil. Let's recap who is in the know about Chloe: Fiona, Eva and Jasper for sure. Fiorenza and Nelli by implication: their ghouls did the rescue. That's a hell of a lot of kindred to "conveniently" forget about the existence of a ghoul who is blowing the Masquerade way open. Then we have Chloe's protestations tonight that she is "protected", which were not tested. Clearly, X or Annabelle could have killed her where she stood, so how is Chloe so confident? Or is she in fact ignorant of the danger she's in, like that screenwriter in VtM:B?
@@morgathing Now that you mention it, Annabelle and X really missed a trick by failing to probe her on that. But it went over my head on first viewing so that's fair.
@@VerticalBlank Without a doubt Chloe Is very cunning. Im not convinced yet that she has any real kindred protection and was probably bluffing. I wanna know whats up with Eva and Jasper too. There's no way they would approve of what she was doing. Which makes me wonder where they think she currently is. Looking back at all of Chloe's interactions with kindred that we've seen, I'm a little worried about how keen she is to be one of them. She seems to think it would be wonderful and is just generally way too naive about the kindred life. The idea of having to hurt people to survive doesn't seem to bother her because in her eyes she can "take out people who deserve it". I can see her either having a whole lot of buyers remorse after the fact or reveling in her immortality to the point she looses her humanity very quickly.
Not uncharacteristic of Jasper (he swanned off like a hot potato after leaving the note), but Eva generally seems more honor-bound than that. On the flip-side, the combination of Strauss being in town and how upset by making/reluctant to make a ghoul Eva was has certainly messed Eva up quite a lot.
You know everything is going SOUTH when the only one being razonable is the damn Malkavian. I love how this ghoul thing and toxic relationships is going to develop. I don't want any of them to suffer but, c'mon... this is going to backfire so hard on them and I'll be right here to watch it.
Chloe is extremely lucky it was Annabelle and X that found her, pretty sure most Kindred would have just killed her. X is right, she is a danger to everyone. The Inquisition loves young stupid narcissistic Fledglings, they make their jobs so much simpler. Annabelle is to soft hearted for her own good, she needs to protect her following. Will she be able to make the essential sacrifices necessary in order to achieve her vision? I'm not so sure.
If the White Tower gets their hands on Chloe they can use her as a Hostage against Jasper & or Eva. Annabelle has put everyone in Danger by not taking Chloe to Victor.
I mean, not to justify her but Mark's situation is kinda different and it would probably be safer for it, from what I understand Annabelle's fight with Eleonor was precisley because she didn't want to turn her, and if she turns Mark it would be kinda incest.
Annabell's fight between her humanity and her beast leaves her less than consistent on certain issues. She is following the rule of taking the least sucky option in any given situation. But it is entirely possible that she is simply inconsistent because you know, that is what it is to be human, or kindred, or whatever.
LMAO, Chloe dropped so many bombs on them in this one epilogue it's ridiculous. Masquerade breach rating 1000. Eva is potentially in soooo much trouble.19:52 - 21:05
maaan... I don't trust Chloe. She's going to sell everybody. She's like a drug addict. She was looking for Jasper but then she's like "oh..immortality..give me that instead!" If Camarilla or anybody else offers to turn her, she's going to sell everybody. And she seems the type that is always going to want more and more. I can see why Fiona was interested.
Fun fact, she was in a relationship with old Jasper. And jasper, in relation to his kidnapping stuff, said, "what I did back then and what I do now aren't so different, but now I try only to hurt bad people" And Chloe knew about that and was okay with that. That alone is a huge red flag.
Chloe: I went a little X... X: What does that mean? You can't verb _me_ ! Jason Carl: Two Kindred and a ghoul... Chloe: Walk into a bar... Me: Heh! Jason really walked into that one..! Edit: Also, I'm a little disappointed in X for not catching what an awesome Prank Chloe's Archangel broadcasts are! Chloe would make a terrific Malkavian, she's already pushing the Tradition of Mutable Traditions!
I think you have grossly misunderstood X as a character if you think he enjoys pranks o.O Sure Xander probably enjoys in-character pranks and or jokes, but X is a constant nerve wreck trying to stay sane enough to not die and/or have his friends die :P
Every malkavian is bound to prank. Its the people not getting the prank, not the prank not being there. They also „pranked“ the camarilla by letting half of the clan collectively change for 300 years to imitate ventrues.
@@Micras08 pranks are a thing in the clan. It's a left over from first edition, when makavians were connected to the Fae, but it's still a thing. It's just that those "pranks" are not a humor thing, but a sort of wrapped lesson, like making a rich man obsessed with money loose everything and need to live on the streets and stuff like that, and if the victim actually understands the moral at the end is secondary. I also think Chloe is Malkavian material, but I don't think her broadcasts would be a good prank. To direct, for one, and attacking the first tradition of all things is counter-productive. Malkavians are not stupid or suicidal, which is a common misconception apparently. Btw, what Therese is doing is 100% a big prank.
as I said last week when this got uploaded by mistake. god damn what a perfect way to start an episode. props to all people involved in l.a by night, and to Jason Carl, a mastercraft in this dark chronicle (and an inspiration, for a beginner ST)
"You think you want it, but you wouldn't." ~Annabelle, who has literally turned or ghouled the two people closest to her in just the matter of months since she became vamped herself @_@
@@MsYunaFires No freedom fighter's position has ever been "you can do and say literally anything". Annabelle has never advocated doing away with the Masquerade. Anarchs have always generally upheld it.
@Paul Gauthier Hm, I disagree, actually. It's very true that Anabelle as a character is incredibly idealistic and those ideals are based on "everyone should have free will". Her options with Mark were "I let him have free will and make his own choice, or I violate his will and take away his choice by brainwashing him." Same with Elenore. She was fixated on becoming a kindred to be with Anabelle. Now, Anabemme can try to reason with them, but like all characters in a drama, these guys are stubborn TO THE POINT OF TUCKING ABSURDITY. They CAN'T listen because it destroys their narrative. It would make the World of Darkness less dark. That can't happen, ever.
I think an additional note about Annabelle should be put forward here. She actively PUSHED Jasper to contact Chloe but takes no responsibillity for what has happened after he did. I know, Jasper is at fault for actually doing so, but I honestly think he wouldn't have if Annabelle hadn't hinted and pushed.
So, now I've watched the sixth epilogue, the biggest question remaining is.....How long am i going to have to wait for another episode? *looks worried*
For some reason I just love episodes with Chloe, I kinda get emotional. So looking forward to the new season. Such great work from everyone involved in this. Keep up the great work.
So our “hero’s” finally catch a break with a great haul of information, a witness to the breaking of the Masquerade that can implicate the Chloe and others and as long as they have her Archangel would be less likely to out there secrets. And this was a great one. X never change you crazy Malk.
The overall theme outlines and willingness of cast is fine. I think it is more about budgets and politics of who controls/owns the charachters and creative process. Similar happened with Tabletop and wil Wheeton. I much preferred his show to game the game. But Becca is more attractive :)
Actually the availability of the actors is a constraint as well. I mean almost all the women are A. stunning looking and B. very capable at their craft So I would not be surprised if they got whipped up by TV or a movie.
Yes!!! The Archangel broadcasts are a grade-A Prank. She's already really pushing the Tradition of Mutable Traditions. Plus, she already has the obssession thing going on...
Let me put it this way: Annabelle has heaped incompetence upon incompetence, and so far has dodged the consequences and compromises that all Kindred must face each night. In the next season, I really do hope that Jason as Storyteller will bring those chickens home to roost big time.
The fact that Chloe changed her story on why she's not with Jasper or Eva twice in a couple minutes means she's lying. Also it's almost confirmed that Jasper was some kind of criminal when he was alive and Chloe knew and was okay with it. Chloe wanting to be turned probably has more to do with wanting Jasper than anything else. Those are major red flags. Edit: okay, she's definitely going to sell them out for anything she wants.
Like i Said last week,... how does a ghoul has everything on the happenings of the kindred,.... even something that wasn’t even shared by each member of the coterie? Independent ghouls are nothing but trouble, for all kindred in general, either they became masquerade violatiors or straight up direct danger by becoming a hunter with an addiction to vitae.
Agreed, I find the whole "Chloe/Archangel" character and plot line to be really just totally immersion breaking and the only part of the story I would say was straight up negative to this great chronicle and production.
WOW! Great Epilogue. So many questions. But top three topics 1st: Was Chloe abandoned by Fiona before Fiona was snatched up by the Inquisition or was she abandoned because Fiona got taken by the Inquisition? What is the timeline there? 2nd: Why haven't Jasper or Eva asked each other about the where abouts of Chloe. I thought Eva made Chloe her responsibility after she broke the blood bond between Fiona and Chloe? Did Jasper just callously wash his hands of the whole Chloe situation or what? 3rd: And the most important question is who could Chloe have possibly talked to to know about Nelli G and Greg's problem with the Inquisition? Because it sounds like she hasn't seen nor heard from Fiona since Fiona disappeared on her.
1 Chloe passed from Fiona to Eva long before Fiona got snatched by the inquisition. She got abandoned by Eva, not by Fiona. 2: Jasper washed his hands off the whole situation right away, ever since he left the note and then didn't pay attention to what that caused. Eva, it's a bit weirder that she wouldn't care, but I guess jealousy might have done that to her? Abandon the dangerous ex? 3: It might be all those ghouls, since they're everywhere and apparently talk a lot.
Ok found it. Go back and watch the very end of the "Love & Fear Episode". It shows the FBI Agent looking at a picture of what he calls the Mole & it's Chloe.
I have now binged all the episodes, since stumbling across it in the search for more of Bloodlines, I guess I'll just rewatch it all until the next season comes out. Thank you so much for putting this out, it's a great comfort in the northern darkness.
Alright this'll probably get lost somewhere in the comments but I'll yell it out anyway for that one person that hasn't already heard: LA BY NIGHT HAS MOVED TO THE "WORLD OF DARKNESS" TH-cam CHANNEL WHERE YOU CAN WATCH SEASON 4 RIGHT NOW!
I don’t think Annabelle should have decided that Chole had a new family within their coterie, this is clearly a sensitive and dangerous issue and she really should have tabled it for later so she can speak to everyone. I don’t know even how Jasper would feel about Annabelle suddenly deciding things and assuming that this would be something Jasper would want. Though of course I remember that Annabelle is still a young vampire compared to most and still holding on to ideals
This excuse has long since worn out its welcome! Having no experience as a vampire (which no longer applies to her btw) has absolutely nothing to do with respecting your friends enough not to speak on their behalf
By the Gods above...he came back!! My world is complete once again. This world needs more Xander and maybe a smattering of X too❤ *oops* "What the world needs now..." Lmao who's willing to confess they sang the last part???
HAPPY THANKSGIVING to ALL the "Geek and Sundry LA by Night Cast and Crew" and Everyone who Comments Here and a MERRY CHRISTMAS. Thank You for All the Episodes and Seasons You gave us.
Somebody needs to teach Annabelle how to conduct an interview because that was just awful. You ask ONE question at a time, and you stick to it until you have gotten answers. What you NEVER do is blurt out a stream-of-consciousness slew of questions, as (a) that lets them pick which one, if any, they want to answer and (b) it shows them that you have an undisciplined mind that is easily distracted and will likely have forgetten which questions you asked within the next few minutes. Chloe saw that instantly and used it to her advantage, and as a result X and Annabelle completely blew an opportunity to piece Chloe's recent history together.
Chloe is playing both Annabelle & X trying to get them to Embrace her because she's the FBI Mole & is trying to get inside either the Coterie to bring them down or the Camarella to bring them down. Either way she is Not a Friend to Jasper, Annabelle, Eva or X. She's the Enemy. Here's another question has Chloe been playing Jasper ever since she met him & was she somehow involved in Jasper be- ing turned into a Vampire?
I know I'm a year late to this party but I'm watching in lockdown and just can't get my head around Annabelle. She's practically hyper, trying to persuade Mark to get turned because it's 'safer' etc etc then sits and lectures Chloe about it being bad and losing your humanity etc -_-
"Several things happen at once." Means, you gonna have to make a lot of rolls, someone is gonna die, it gonna get all messed up for no freakin' reason!
This series is great and very inspirational. As an early starting Table Top RPG TH-cam channel we have gleaned so much wisdom from the LA by Night crew! Thank you guys so much for what you do!
Their surprised pickachu reaction was sooo unmerrited. Of course people have been reading your texts, how the hell did it take you this long to realise that sms is not a safe channel!? I swear, LA needs the Camarilla so much!
Chloe thinking being embraced would save her from her actions... Naw. Her Intentionally and repeatedly breaching the masquerade would bring horrific things down on her whether she's kindred or kine. In all honesty, her being embraced at this point would make the consequences even more severe cuz she's be able to endure far more punishment as a cainite than she would as a mortal. If she didnt start up this whole Archangel thing, sure being embraced would have insulated her from being a masquerade breach due to Jasper's actions; she'd no longer be a mortal that knows too much... but with broadcasting what she has as Archangel, even if not all her listeners know what she's talking about, she's making too much sensitive information available to kine society. Once put out there like that, that kind of information doesnt just vanish if she stops. Any kindred that finds out who she is, is obligated to kill even if she's kindred. Sidenote: Its funny how Annabelle is so against the idea of Chloe being embraced saying how it will kill her humanity and remove her from any reason for living and all that, while just a couple hours ago at most she was all onboard with having Nines embrace Mark.
Would love to see Kyoko, X, and Gary Gold in a muder mystery together! Love @Jason Carl standing by, just listening, nodding, making notes, just the silent partner in this drama, 🤣 I feel the wolf is a Gangrel, not Strikes a Chord!
Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, Chloe's out there dropping bombs on pretty much everyone. I love Jasper and Eva and they've already gotten themselves in such deep shit already that I'm worried at least one of them is gonna die by the end of the story BUT HEY AT LEAST WE CAN AGREE THAT KILLING OFF BELOVED CHARACTERS DOESN'T NECESSARILY HELP THE STORY, RIGHT? just putting that out there in case one hears things or reads things I'm so worried for them istfg
Chloe is such an interesting character! I know she probably would've been killed eventually, but surviving as long as she did shows how smart she is. From a very low-power ghoul with very little understanding of the world she found herself in, she built a whole network of informants on both sides of a cold war, getting vitae from wherever she could find it. She learned how to be exactly as useful as she needed to be so that she wasn't too much of a nuiscance that someone would try to taker her out. She'd have been such a great reporter if she hadn't been pulled into all of this
Season Three "Captain of My Soul" Annabelle told Mark that Ellenore was now a vampire. Annabelle told him that she did not embrace Ellenore but did not tell him who did. I wonder who Annabelle got to Embrace Ellenore?
@SilverandSoul I think she asked Nines to do it since he's a Brujah or the one who turned her (Annabelle) he told her that if she needed anything to let him know.
Annabelle is protecting Chloe & the Camarelle Ghoul is trying to find out where Nelli G is. I think Fiona is Behind Chloe. I think Fiona is using Chloe to find Nelli G. Annabelle needs to tell Victor & stop keeping Secrets. She's playing Annabelle & she's gonna lead Therese to X. X is in so much Trouble he doesn't realise it yet.
Oh how I wish I'd discovered the series when they first aired. Props to everyone involved and I hope we get many many more seasons with the characters. That said, UGH. WTF ANNABELLE?! Finds Archangel. Immediately throws a bunch of kindred names, clan names, etc., wastes time on needless questioning/pitying and then gives the crazy stalker x-girlfriend hope that the man over whom she lost her mind 'still cares for her'. I understand this char is basically a college student and is not supposed to be mature but this is really beyond stupid. I don't know how much choice over the character's words and actions Erika has but **somebody** should seriously reconsider some of the character's 'traits' as this is cringe.
Ok I just figured out why the Valkeries got Ambushed. Therese & Jeanette are one in the same Person be- cause she or they have Split Personality Syndrome. So whatever Jeanette knows Therese knows & Therese told Prince Vannevar. I wonder if Therese won the Fight against Jeanette, because she didn't die in the Ambush, because Therese is still alive. = For those who don't understand what Split Personality Syndrome is. It's where 1 Person has more than one Personality & both can basically be Opposites of each Other.
She/They appeared as characters in Bloodlines 1, so anybody who played that knows. And they have a love/hate relationship. But I don't THINK they have shared knowledge.
Book
- Isn't that cheating?
- I don't think so. It's more like playing on Hard Mode
as one of the finest exchanges throughout the 3 seasons.
Xander, you da man!
Clearly you never played Bloodlines 1 being a Malkavian was a lot harder then the others save Nosferatu.
Douglas Mccoy not that hard really, it’s just playing a Malk on the first playthrough is either spoiler-y or pure gibberish depending on your knowledge of the setting, atleast you don’t have to sneak everywhere and the dialogue options are mostly opened. Nos on the first playthrough is the actual hard mode.
That one joke had me dying. I loved it. It was too perfect.
"You boinked Jasper? Good for you... Good for him!" Ah, love ya X!
"You can't verb me!"
Please can this be tuned in to a gif xD
What is more terrifying? Jason Carl saying "I will make a note" or Jason Carl passively rolling dice and quietly making notes?
The only answer to this is 'yes'
Definitely the later.
P.T.S.D Player Trepidation from sadistic D.Ms
He rolled Strauss' hearing check when Victor and Jasper were debating fleeing from the Labyrinth, and the following "You may as well join us, Neonates!" made Jasper clench so hard, he could cut Victor's cigars.
I'm definitely more terrified of the latter. "I will make a note" means a future scene just got created. Dice rolling means some shit just happened. :-s
19:11 -> "Is Therese using her powers...?"
:Jason rolls dice menacingly:
Yeah... I guess the better question is when is Therese NOT using her powers?
Dont forget Therese is lower Generation than Vanevar.
Bart Connolly ...and she's actually making him go mad, btw.
She's not, not actively, if I got the meaning right from X's ramblings. She doesn't need to. It's just that he can't explain about the Malkavian Madness Network. But it's not like it's the internet, she can't pluck specific information out of it at will, but the information is there, because every Malkavian is connected. That's why he says "anyone could know". And yes, Therese is a 6th gen powerhouse, specially when it comes to mind games. It was funny when Suzanne tough she could get into her mind impune, like she does with everyone else...
@@HenriqueErzinger She's *not not* driving him mad....
When X is the adult in the room...
😂
Xander was on fire this episode. I missed him!
I already can't wait for the next season.
I must say, Chloe is a very manipulative woman, very clever too, she’s very possibly one of the most dangerous side-characters so far, and it doesn’t help that the two people who found her are probably the easiest manipulated out of the group.
At the same time, thought she’s very naive, she has no idea the dangers of kindred life and seems to think she can just bullsh*t her way through everything, she is horribly underestimating the entirety of the kindred and is going to get herself killed very soon.
Manipulative and naive are a very bad combination indeed, she’s going to cause way more damage than she realises to herself and others.
Also, knowing what we do about Jasper, how he ‘used to be similar to how he is now’ it sounds like he was maybe getting involved in some dangerous business, and she was probably somehow linked too, this girl is in a lot of danger, and doesn’t seem to have any concept of the consequences.
I agree. It's gonna be interesting in who she will get to turn her, because she's not gonna stop until someone does.
I know it's been three years since this was commented but I just have to say, I think she's the most frustrating (if not infuriating, personally) character on this show, she says and thinks she knows so much because she does know way more than any ghoul sensibly should but she only knows marginally more than most individual kindred and understands absolutely nothing, she's like a 6 year old who hears her parents arguing and talking constantly and though she can relay all of what she hears she is completely naive to all of it. She's not necessarily a bad character, I just struggle immensely to understand what is going through her head to think any of what she's doing is sensible whatsoever, especially with the "I didn't say anything!" remarks constantly, I can't tell if she actually believes it or not, she's so evidently incredibly smart but has absolutely no wisdom whatsoever and I struggle envisioning a future where she lives for any more than a month from this point unless she's held ransom, then maybe two.
She is a journalism student bullshit is the bread and butter of all journalists
@@someq. she's not taking any of it seriously because losing jasper drove her insane with grief is how i see it. she doesn't care if she dies because she needs to be in his life, and if he won't let her, then she'll get as close as she can and risk her life to do so. doing all the investigating etc. etc. is just her falling back on a coping mechanism and using the skills she has as a journalist.
Chloe: "Isn't that CHEATING!"
X: "I think of it as playing on hard-mode."
Broke down laughing.
Actually when you play the game Hard Mode is Nosferatu
@@leocitywrestling7029 Nosferatu debatably has it the hardest, but from a player standpoint Malkavians are by far the hardest to roleplay in a meaningful way
@@issintf925 i meant the video game, but yes to protray a malkavian at the table is difficult as your both smart and crazy
@@leocitywrestling7029 Yup totally agree
55:35 - 'I've been.. getting all your texts."
Camarilla Response - 'Punish and then Destroy the ghoul. PUBLICLY. Sanitize their online presence. Erase every trace of their existence. Use her as an example of why we shy away from tech. And SOMEONE FIND OUT WHO GHOULED HER SO THE HARPY CAN NAIL THEIR ASS TO THE WALL TOO."
Sabbat Response - '... Wait seriously? Someone pass me a shovel. TIME TO JOIN THE FAM, KIDDO."
Anarch Response - ' *sigh..* Whatever. Just drink up and stuff.'
edit: also I love how Jason just nods like "yuuuuuup."
Does anyone else think it was somewhat uncharacteristic for Eva (and to some extent Jasper) to have left Chloe hanging like that after having formally taken responsibility for her?
yeah i have a feeling that was a lie and she just took off on her own when they wouldn't change her.
I concur, but in that case it's a bit odd that neither Eva nor Jasper raised the alarm. I'd have thought that such a high-profile ghoul slipping the leash would be pretty high priority even given the recent turmoil. Let's recap who is in the know about Chloe: Fiona, Eva and Jasper for sure. Fiorenza and Nelli by implication: their ghouls did the rescue.
That's a hell of a lot of kindred to "conveniently" forget about the existence of a ghoul who is blowing the Masquerade way open.
Then we have Chloe's protestations tonight that she is "protected", which were not tested. Clearly, X or Annabelle could have killed her where she stood, so how is Chloe so confident? Or is she in fact ignorant of the danger she's in, like that screenwriter in VtM:B?
@@morgathing Now that you mention it, Annabelle and X really missed a trick by failing to probe her on that. But it went over my head on first viewing so that's fair.
@@VerticalBlank Without a doubt Chloe Is very cunning. Im not convinced yet that she has any real kindred protection and was probably bluffing. I wanna know whats up with Eva and Jasper too. There's no way they would approve of what she was doing. Which makes me wonder where they think she currently is.
Looking back at all of Chloe's interactions with kindred that we've seen, I'm a little worried about how keen she is to be one of them. She seems to think it would be wonderful and is just generally way too naive about the kindred life. The idea of having to hurt people to survive doesn't seem to bother her because in her eyes she can "take out people who deserve it".
I can see her either having a whole lot of buyers remorse after the fact or reveling in her immortality to the point she looses her humanity very quickly.
Not uncharacteristic of Jasper (he swanned off like a hot potato after leaving the note), but Eva generally seems more honor-bound than that. On the flip-side, the combination of Strauss being in town and how upset by making/reluctant to make a ghoul Eva was has certainly messed Eva up quite a lot.
10:39
Chloe: Malkavian. Right. Isn't that cheating?!
X: I don't think so. I think it's playing on Hard Mode.
LOL
12:15
Chloe: Well i went a little X
X: What does that mean? You Can't verb me!
X gets the best lines in.
More like... it's my second playthrough,... on hard mode × wink wink nudge nudge +
@@VandalAudi , indeed. :-)
@@kalebdaark100 Xander always get the best lines in Vampire the Masquerade.
More tragic than funny tbh
You know everything is going SOUTH when the only one being razonable is the damn Malkavian.
I love how this ghoul thing and toxic relationships is going to develop. I don't want any of them to suffer but, c'mon... this is going to backfire so hard on them and I'll be right here to watch it.
IKR!!! X has been missed. Not sorely but missed.
I think Chloe is Jealous of Jasper & Eva's relationship
& if Chloe is so good at investigating why didn't she
find Fiona or Maybe she has..
@@Nikita4ever7000 guarantee Chloe isn't spilling everything, and keeping some things in her back pocket. :)
Chloe is extremely lucky it was Annabelle and X that found her, pretty sure most Kindred would have just killed her. X is right, she is a danger to everyone. The Inquisition loves young stupid narcissistic Fledglings, they make their jobs so much simpler. Annabelle is to soft hearted for her own good, she needs to protect her following. Will she be able to make the essential sacrifices necessary in order to achieve her vision? I'm not so sure.
Anyone else and she would have been dead
Victor or Nelli would have killed her. Jasper or eva might have been complicated
Idk if Victor would have but he probably would have turned her
If the White Tower gets their hands on Chloe they can use her as a Hostage against Jasper & or Eva. Annabelle has put everyone in Danger by not taking Chloe to Victor.
@@Nikita4ever7000 Agreed. See my suggestion above.
Annabelle: You dont want to be turned!
Also Annabelle: Hey Nines can you turn Mark? We're thinking that's a good option.
I mean, not to justify her but Mark's situation is kinda different and it would probably be safer for it, from what I understand Annabelle's fight with Eleonor was precisley because she didn't want to turn her, and if she turns Mark it would be kinda incest.
Annabell's fight between her humanity and her beast leaves her less than consistent on certain issues. She is following the rule of taking the least sucky option in any given situation. But it is entirely possible that she is simply inconsistent because you know, that is what it is to be human, or kindred, or whatever.
Baby B is a huge hypocrite. But she knows and owns it. Context is more important than absolutes
X IS BACK... MISSED YOU YOU CRAZY VISION SEER
LMAO, Chloe dropped so many bombs on them in this one epilogue it's ridiculous. Masquerade breach rating 1000. Eva is potentially in soooo much trouble.19:52 - 21:05
It odd how strange X looks without a hat... funny how emblematic his hat has become to me (and probably others)
maaan... I don't trust Chloe. She's going to sell everybody. She's like a drug addict. She was looking for Jasper but then she's like "oh..immortality..give me that instead!" If Camarilla or anybody else offers to turn her, she's going to sell everybody. And she seems the type that is always going to want more and more. I can see why Fiona was interested.
RIGHT!!! poor jaspe
I wouldn't trust her with any of my vitae. She's quietly evil
She is a fallen woman
Fun fact, she was in a relationship with old Jasper. And jasper, in relation to his kidnapping stuff, said, "what I did back then and what I do now aren't so different, but now I try only to hurt bad people"
And Chloe knew about that and was okay with that. That alone is a huge red flag.
Chloe really asks to be killed. Quite an unpleasant and blind character. But played really well
I had a tears in my eyes. X doing the old "cloak of shadows" power gesture. My old vamp role-player heart was happy 😊 💪🏾 ❤️
Chloe: I went a little X...
X: What does that mean? You can't verb _me_ !
Jason Carl: Two Kindred and a ghoul...
Chloe: Walk into a bar...
Me: Heh! Jason really walked into that one..!
Edit: Also, I'm a little disappointed in X for not catching what an awesome Prank Chloe's Archangel broadcasts are! Chloe would make a terrific Malkavian, she's already pushing the Tradition of Mutable Traditions!
I'm also all for malkavian Chloe!! Just how she managed the vision says all about it.
I think its a hint for next season
I think you have grossly misunderstood X as a character if you think he enjoys pranks o.O Sure Xander probably enjoys in-character pranks and or jokes, but X is a constant nerve wreck trying to stay sane enough to not die and/or have his friends die :P
Every malkavian is bound to prank. Its the people not getting the prank, not the prank not being there. They also „pranked“ the camarilla by letting half of the clan collectively change for 300 years to imitate ventrues.
@@Micras08 pranks are a thing in the clan. It's a left over from first edition, when makavians were connected to the Fae, but it's still a thing. It's just that those "pranks" are not a humor thing, but a sort of wrapped lesson, like making a rich man obsessed with money loose everything and need to live on the streets and stuff like that, and if the victim actually understands the moral at the end is secondary. I also think Chloe is Malkavian material, but I don't think her broadcasts would be a good prank. To direct, for one, and attacking the first tradition of all things is counter-productive. Malkavians are not stupid or suicidal, which is a common misconception apparently.
Btw, what Therese is doing is 100% a big prank.
as I said last week when this got uploaded by mistake. god damn what a perfect way to start an episode. props to all people involved in l.a by night, and to Jason Carl, a mastercraft in this dark chronicle (and an inspiration, for a beginner ST)
42:17 - "In the Labyrinth?...."
Oh shit. Chloe that's gonna come back to haunt you.
Once again, the Malkavian is the only sane one in the room.
Xander is really good at roleplaying Malkavian.
Not just another jester of the group but as a Kindred tormented by the curse of Cain.
Oh my God, the epilogues of this season are just insanely good. X, Wyrd sisters, Nelli and Daffodil, Eva and Jasper, this is a treat.
Also, "Pinky promise? I'm a vampire, this is legally binding" is one of the best phrases I've ever heard.
"You think you want it, but you wouldn't."
~Annabelle, who has literally turned or ghouled the two people closest to her in just the matter of months since she became vamped herself @_@
"We'll tell what you can and cannot say" claims the Brujah fighting for Kindred freedom
@@MsYunaFires
No freedom fighter's position has ever been "you can do and say literally anything". Annabelle has never advocated doing away with the Masquerade. Anarchs have always generally upheld it.
@Paul Gauthier Hm, I disagree, actually. It's very true that Anabelle as a character is incredibly idealistic and those ideals are based on "everyone should have free will".
Her options with Mark were "I let him have free will and make his own choice, or I violate his will and take away his choice by brainwashing him."
Same with Elenore. She was fixated on becoming a kindred to be with Anabelle.
Now, Anabemme can try to reason with them, but like all characters in a drama, these guys are stubborn TO THE POINT OF TUCKING ABSURDITY. They CAN'T listen because it destroys their narrative. It would make the World of Darkness less dark. That can't happen, ever.
@Paul Gauthier As someone who participates in protests much like an "activist"... nope, Annabelle acts exactly the way I see others do.
I think an additional note about Annabelle should be put forward here. She actively PUSHED Jasper to contact Chloe but takes no responsibillity for what has happened after he did. I know, Jasper is at fault for actually doing so, but I honestly think he wouldn't have if Annabelle hadn't hinted and pushed.
Poor X, only one who seems to realize the big problem with all this. And Annabelle, always knows how to make situations worse.
YOU JUST INVITED JASPERS CRAZY STALKER EX TO LIVE WITH YOU ALL!
here we go the last epilogue of season 3.
here's to season 4!!
So, now I've watched the sixth epilogue, the biggest question remaining is.....How long am i going to have to wait for another episode?
*looks worried*
is it season 4 yet :D? I need my weekly Vampires XD
@@mbalazs3544 , I tell you, I've had to turn to drinking strong drink on Wednesday evenings to reduce my shakes.
I hope we hear something soon. I check their page regularly in hopes of new content.
I hope they are going to do something special for Halloween and Surprise us with it.
@@Nikita4ever7000 Shhhhhhh! I think most fans think this too. Don't let them think you know. QUick, delete your comment. :D
X to Chloe: “You boinked Jasper? Good for you! Good for him??”
When I tell you I cackled at that line. God, I love X so much.
55:32
Oh their reactions are killing me. Damn she's crafty though
Again, superb role-playing by all! I did wonder if another actor would have appeared if the dice, or the player's decisions, had landed differently.
Same!
love that Xander actally used LARP's sign for obfuscation
For some reason I just love episodes with Chloe, I kinda get emotional. So looking forward to the new season. Such great work from everyone involved in this. Keep up the great work.
30:35 "(referring to pinky promise) I'm a vampire, this is literally binding." If it comes from a malkavian then it might be true lol
This all comes full circle back to what everyone?
Say it with me now:
"Don't break the masquerade!"
When X puts his hand up and Annabelle without skipping a beat says
"yes, X"
And X without skipping a beat starts speaking.
Amazing.
"Two kindred and a ghoul... walk into a bar." -Best thing to be heard in all of the show.
So our “hero’s” finally catch a break with a great haul of information, a witness to the breaking of the Masquerade that can implicate the Chloe and others and as long as they have her Archangel would be less likely to out there secrets. And this was a great one. X never change you crazy Malk.
So many questions, but the biggest one:
Is season 4 already confirmed?!?
No unfortunately. But fingers crossed we get an announcement soon!
Super Bummed. Things need to speed up. I want MORE VTM!!!!!!! *taps phone* HEY U GUYS
I wish for 9 more seasons XD but least more I cant have enough of Jason Carl epilogues and game mastering and all the awesome players XD
January 31st on the world of darkness twitch channel. 8pm PST. The first episode of the new season will air on this date! :) See you there!
Csn we all just accept these epilogues are slowly just turning into season 4 and how we're all really fine with that?
Damn right we are.
Yep
The overall theme outlines and willingness of cast is fine. I think it is more about budgets and politics of who controls/owns the charachters and creative process. Similar happened with Tabletop and wil Wheeton. I much preferred his show to game the game. But Becca is more attractive :)
Actually the availability of the actors is a constraint as well. I mean almost all the women are
A. stunning looking and
B. very capable at their craft
So I would not be surprised if they got whipped up by TV or a movie.
Did i say "almost" Sorry . My mistake.
Chloe : "I want to become vampire !!!"
Annabelle : "You think you do, but you don't."
Blizzard : I think I already heard that somewhere...
I love this episode and I can't wait till we got more fangs in the vamily. Chloe would make a great Malkavian.
Chole needs to fucking die, anabelle and x need to be punished.
Yes!!! The Archangel broadcasts are a grade-A Prank. She's already really pushing the Tradition of Mutable Traditions. Plus, she already has the obssession thing going on...
Let me put it this way: Annabelle has heaped incompetence upon incompetence, and so far has dodged the consequences and compromises that all Kindred must face each night. In the next season, I really do hope that Jason as Storyteller will bring those chickens home to roost big time.
i can't fucking stand annabelle, i now consider her a masqurade violator and am cheering for strous in the camarilla
The fact that Chloe changed her story on why she's not with Jasper or Eva twice in a couple minutes means she's lying. Also it's almost confirmed that Jasper was some kind of criminal when he was alive and Chloe knew and was okay with it. Chloe wanting to be turned probably has more to do with wanting Jasper than anything else. Those are major red flags.
Edit: okay, she's definitely going to sell them out for anything she wants.
I like the venom dripping from Archangel's lips when she says "the White Witch of Griffith Park."
It is so good
Missed X so much.
Seconded!!
I have missed X SOOOO MUCH. I absolutely adore how he plays the character
Like i Said last week,... how does a ghoul has everything on the happenings of the kindred,.... even something that wasn’t even shared by each member of the coterie? Independent ghouls are nothing but trouble, for all kindred in general, either they became masquerade violatiors or straight up direct danger by becoming a hunter with an addiction to vitae.
Agreed, I find the whole "Chloe/Archangel" character and plot line to be really just totally immersion breaking and the only part of the story I would say was straight up negative to this great chronicle and production.
WOW! Great Epilogue. So many questions. But top three topics
1st: Was Chloe abandoned by Fiona before Fiona was snatched up by the Inquisition or was she abandoned because Fiona got taken by the Inquisition? What is the timeline there?
2nd: Why haven't Jasper or Eva asked each other about the where abouts of Chloe. I thought Eva made Chloe her responsibility after she broke the blood bond between Fiona and Chloe? Did Jasper just callously wash his hands of the whole Chloe situation or what?
3rd: And the most important question is who could Chloe have possibly talked to to know about Nelli G and Greg's problem with the Inquisition? Because it sounds like she hasn't seen nor heard from Fiona since Fiona disappeared on her.
1 Chloe passed from Fiona to Eva long before Fiona got snatched by the inquisition. She got abandoned by Eva, not by Fiona.
2: Jasper washed his hands off the whole situation right away, ever since he left the note and then didn't pay attention to what that caused. Eva, it's a bit weirder that she wouldn't care, but I guess jealousy might have done that to her? Abandon the dangerous ex?
3: It might be all those ghouls, since they're everywhere and apparently talk a lot.
I just caught up today and there's a new epilogue? Amazing as always, I've missed X
Ok found it. Go back and watch the very end of
the "Love & Fear Episode". It shows the FBI Agent
looking at a picture of what he calls the Mole &
it's Chloe.
dude if your right amazing job calling it out
@@davidamwake944 Check for yourself don't take my word for it.
Is it just me or does Jason Carl's Voice relax everyone
when they listen to him talk? I've been known to fall
asleep listening to these videos.
I love his voice
I have now binged all the episodes, since stumbling across it in the search for more of Bloodlines, I guess I'll just rewatch it all until the next season comes out.
Thank you so much for putting this out, it's a great comfort in the northern darkness.
We're not sure we're going to get a Season 4 if you find out anything let us know ok.
Alright this'll probably get lost somewhere in the comments but I'll yell it out anyway for that one person that hasn't already heard: LA BY NIGHT HAS MOVED TO THE "WORLD OF DARKNESS" TH-cam CHANNEL WHERE YOU CAN WATCH SEASON 4 RIGHT NOW!
me, shaking the bars of my cage after binging this series for the past week: SEASON FOUR WHEN?!?!
I knew it was Chloe, pretty sure Becca used a similar voice at some point on Game the Game whenever she said Archangel on the radio.
I just finished binging and I want more... thank you guys for all the hard work and making the videos. This whole cast of people are amazing
Annabelle needs to take Chloe to Victor and have him
fix it so she doesn't remember or she's gonna lead the
FBI right to them.
I don’t think Annabelle should have decided that Chole had a new family within their coterie, this is clearly a sensitive and dangerous issue and she really should have tabled it for later so she can speak to everyone. I don’t know even how Jasper would feel about Annabelle suddenly deciding things and assuming that this would be something Jasper would want. Though of course I remember that Annabelle is still a young vampire compared to most and still holding on to ideals
This excuse has long since worn out its welcome! Having no experience as a vampire (which no longer applies to her btw) has absolutely nothing to do with respecting your friends enough not to speak on their behalf
I love the way X waves at Archangel 😉.
Oh boy... so much to unravel after this episode! I can't wait to see how Jasper is going to react when he finds out.
38:22 HA!! I KNEW THAT THE ACTOR WHO DOES X WAS A LARPER AT SOME POINT!! CROSSED ARMS FOR OBFUSCATE BABBYYYYY.
Oh X. The Internet has taught us that we can verb anything.
ANYTHING!
We can anything anything at anytime.
Hopefully this is not the last time we see those characters. Waiting impatiently for season 4 confirmation.
I'm going to miss Chloe's 1920's radio voice :(
By the Gods above...he came back!! My world is complete once again. This world needs more Xander and maybe a smattering of X too❤ *oops* "What the world needs now..." Lmao who's willing to confess they sang the last part???
HAPPY THANKSGIVING to ALL the "Geek and Sundry LA by Night
Cast and Crew" and Everyone who Comments Here and a MERRY
CHRISTMAS. Thank You for All the Episodes and Seasons You
gave us.
Somebody needs to teach Annabelle how to conduct an interview because that was just awful. You ask ONE question at a time, and you stick to it until you have gotten answers. What you NEVER do is blurt out a stream-of-consciousness slew of questions, as (a) that lets them pick which one, if any, they want to answer and (b) it shows them that you have an undisciplined mind that is easily distracted and will likely have forgetten which questions you asked within the next few minutes. Chloe saw that instantly and used it to her advantage, and as a result X and Annabelle completely blew an opportunity to piece Chloe's recent history together.
Since when Anabelle thinks she just reacts 😒
@@mililidove I don't get why the other characters like her. Much less admire her.
A Brujah behavior. How fitting.
@@mililidove She doesn't think.
This is why I love Nelli. Yes she is bitter but boy she is pragmatic.
Chloe is playing both Annabelle & X trying to get them to Embrace
her because she's the FBI Mole & is trying to get inside either the
Coterie to bring them down or the Camarella to bring them down.
Either way she is Not a Friend to Jasper, Annabelle, Eva or X. She's
the Enemy. Here's another question has Chloe been playing Jasper
ever since she met him & was she somehow involved in Jasper be-
ing turned into a Vampire?
bludrk returns or one hell of an angel
Jason Carl is amazing impersonating Therese voice ♡
Amazing as always but now I'm sad that we don't know if there's anymore to come... please give us more
I feel like Jasper would have been more chill with them killing Chloe instead of getting her high and inviting her to move in
ive been screaming to my self with ever pinapple text X sent them lol
pls make more episodes I did not get my fix yesterday and miss you guys :DDD
Watching Jasons reactions when X is doing his thing is priceless. : D
Been waiting for this!!! (I think they re uploaded the last episode by accident, because I know already what happens.)
SPLENDIFEROUS OPENING SCENE
So X and Chloe have such a great chemistry. Love when he pushed her away. Great acting from all 3. I hope we get more X and Chloe
What a great opening scene!
I know I'm a year late to this party but I'm watching in lockdown and just can't get my head around Annabelle. She's practically hyper, trying to persuade Mark to get turned because it's 'safer' etc etc then sits and lectures Chloe about it being bad and losing your humanity etc -_-
I'm a year late to reply, but it's because Annabelle is a bad character.
....I mean I should've guessed but....SONOVABICH. Well played Chloe.
"Several things happen at once."
Means, you gonna have to make a lot of rolls, someone is gonna die, it gonna get all messed up for no freakin' reason!
Man Becca is so good as Archangel
This series is great and very inspirational. As an early starting Table Top RPG TH-cam channel we have gleaned so much wisdom from the LA by Night crew! Thank you guys so much for what you do!
Bruh watching Jason rolling dice and looking at notes in the background after x says people are looking through his eyes is some of the scariest shit
Their surprised pickachu reaction was sooo unmerrited. Of course people have been reading your texts, how the hell did it take you this long to realise that sms is not a safe channel!? I swear, LA needs the Camarilla so much!
Chloe thinking being embraced would save her from her actions... Naw. Her Intentionally and repeatedly breaching the masquerade would bring horrific things down on her whether she's kindred or kine. In all honesty, her being embraced at this point would make the consequences even more severe cuz she's be able to endure far more punishment as a cainite than she would as a mortal.
If she didnt start up this whole Archangel thing, sure being embraced would have insulated her from being a masquerade breach due to Jasper's actions; she'd no longer be a mortal that knows too much... but with broadcasting what she has as Archangel, even if not all her listeners know what she's talking about, she's making too much sensitive information available to kine society. Once put out there like that, that kind of information doesnt just vanish if she stops. Any kindred that finds out who she is, is obligated to kill even if she's kindred.
Sidenote: Its funny how Annabelle is so against the idea of Chloe being embraced saying how it will kill her humanity and remove her from any reason for living and all that, while just a couple hours ago at most she was all onboard with having Nines embrace Mark.
- Ah, Malkavian. Isn't that cheating?
- I don't think so. I think it's playing on hard mode.
You bet!
Would love to see Kyoko, X, and Gary Gold in a muder mystery together!
Love @Jason Carl standing by, just listening, nodding, making notes, just the silent partner in this drama, 🤣
I feel the wolf is a Gangrel, not Strikes a Chord!
Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, Chloe's out there dropping bombs on pretty much everyone. I love Jasper and Eva and they've already gotten themselves in such deep shit already that I'm worried at least one of them is gonna die by the end of the story
BUT HEY AT LEAST WE CAN AGREE THAT KILLING OFF BELOVED CHARACTERS DOESN'T NECESSARILY HELP THE STORY, RIGHT?
just putting that out there
in case one hears things
or reads things
I'm so worried for them istfg
Me too.
X is just too good as a goofy Malk, love him
Chloe is such an interesting character! I know she probably would've been killed eventually, but surviving as long as she did shows how smart she is. From a very low-power ghoul with very little understanding of the world she found herself in, she built a whole network of informants on both sides of a cold war, getting vitae from wherever she could find it. She learned how to be exactly as useful as she needed to be so that she wasn't too much of a nuiscance that someone would try to taker her out. She'd have been such a great reporter if she hadn't been pulled into all of this
Ummm... what? She should have been enemy nr 1 for both sides of the war by this point with all of the masquerade violations she's been committing.
@@horiavelciu31 You should probably keep watching then lol, because that is literally part of the narrative
Season Three
"Captain of My Soul"
Annabelle told Mark that Ellenore was now a vampire.
Annabelle told him that she did not embrace Ellenore
but did not tell him who did. I wonder who Annabelle
got to Embrace Ellenore?
Could have been Ramona, since they were so close, and if I recall right the rights were on their way that day.
@SilverandSoul Why would Annabelle ask Miranda to do it?
@SilverandSoul I think she asked Nines to do it since he's a Brujah or the one who turned her (Annabelle) he told her that if she needed anything to let him know.
Rue Stahl i seem to recall carver sending her a message including “baby doll”
Annabelle is protecting Chloe & the Camarelle Ghoul
is trying to find out where Nelli G is. I think Fiona is
Behind Chloe. I think Fiona is using Chloe to find
Nelli G. Annabelle needs to tell Victor & stop keeping
Secrets. She's playing Annabelle & she's gonna lead
Therese to X. X is in so much Trouble he doesn't
realise it yet.
Oh how I wish I'd discovered the series when they first aired. Props to everyone involved and I hope we get many many more seasons with the characters.
That said, UGH. WTF ANNABELLE?! Finds Archangel. Immediately throws a bunch of kindred names, clan names, etc., wastes time on needless questioning/pitying and then gives the crazy stalker x-girlfriend hope that the man over whom she lost her mind 'still cares for her'. I understand this char is basically a college student and is not supposed to be mature but this is really beyond stupid. I don't know how much choice over the character's words and actions Erika has but **somebody** should seriously reconsider some of the character's 'traits' as this is cringe.
Ok I just figured out why the Valkeries got Ambushed.
Therese & Jeanette are one in the same Person be-
cause she or they have Split Personality Syndrome.
So whatever Jeanette knows Therese knows & Therese
told Prince Vannevar. I wonder if Therese won the Fight
against Jeanette, because she didn't die in the Ambush,
because Therese is still alive.
=
For those who don't understand what Split Personality
Syndrome is. It's where 1 Person has more than one
Personality & both can basically be Opposites of each
Other.
Anyone picking a fight with Therese or Jeanette is going to end up having a very complicated day.
She/They appeared as characters in Bloodlines 1, so anybody who played that knows. And they have a love/hate relationship. But I don't THINK they have shared knowledge.
34:13 you know theres a problem when the MALKAVIAN thinks your crazy.