Same video but with the robot voice: th-cam.com/video/iaSb5UX6DyE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JUSTAROBOT WELL, THIS WAS A FUN VIDEO TO MAKE. I made a mistake at 11:16 where I said alt discord account when I meant to say alt youtube account. I'll be finishing up the robot voice for this video and the last one as soon as I can. The next video is going to be something NOT to do with drama because I need a brake. Another BIG thank you to PhoenixPeridot for the thumbnail Twitter: twitter.com/PhoenixPeridot Instagram: instagram.com/phoenixperidot/ TH-cam: th-cam.com/channels/qSrxGWrEOW4-2hqQVPNGwQ.html You can watch the 2 video's about my past: th-cam.com/video/m0ta4smjuNA/w-d-xo.html&t&ab_channel=JUSTAROBOT th-cam.com/video/VZ-WWhJezmA/w-d-xo.html&t&ab_channel=JUSTAROBOT
I feel like this isn’t said enough, but it also affects actual victims. By making these random allegations towards people on the internet, real gr//omers and pr//dators will go underneath the radar. Even if there is proof to back it up that *insert well-known figure here* has been harassing and preying upon minors, people will be inclined to not believing them as there are situations like this floating around. It honestly disgusts me that this is happening as somebody who has been traumatized because of the things you’re being accused of. It’s just a lose-lose for everybody, as real victims will feel or be silenced about their experiences, but also people who have never done such things will be chastised. (Sorry for any spelling mistakes)
Idk bro, if they’re willing to speak up people will probably believe them. Like, people believed this bullshit. So something with actual validity would probably work even better. EDIT: what I mean is, if people can believe a false allegation, then people can believe a real one. There’s just as many people who believe everything than people who are skeptical.
As someone who has dealt with harassment of the....ahem kind....in the past, and as someone who has been SA in the past, nothing grinds my gears more than people who make false accusations of these very serious issues. It's like they never heard of the boy who cried wolf, unfortunately, it won't be the same boy like in the story that gets eaten by the wolf because of people like this, it will be the next boy who unfortunately was telling the truth about the wolf that pays the price, but the town no longer believes there is a wolf in the woods because the previous boy kept lying about said wolf. Idk I'm word vomiting but you get what I mean I hope.
Reminds me of the lunchroom scene in Gumball when Gumball was going full SJW on Carmen Cactus and his Carmen said bad social justice can ruin causes and hurt people who really need our help.
@Hopeless Peaches : ok first of all HOLY GRACIOUS I WAS NOT EXPECTING YOU TO BE HERE, secondly I get it. I have been through what you have been through multiple times, and although I won’t get too into (because its personal obviously), it has affected me very badly.
You'd think adults would learn how to be adults. We have someone who can't swallow their own pride and apologize over some dumb shit that happened on deviantART of all places. Then we have Chaos's dumbass roomate who can't even BOTHER to do proper research because of clear hatred for Jar over petty shit. And we have Chaos who made not one, but two false allegations ON THE SAME PERSON. This video and Ponders livestream was the Karma hammer striking down to shatter this stupid Larping attempt to get rid of someone.
@@rubymeaddle That's true. My grandma (who's in her 70s) gets into petty arguments - and aggressive ones at that - with my aunt and uncle (who are pushing 50) I'm not not mature myself and neither are the people around me
@@rubymeaddle I'm knocking on the door of 31, and I agree. If you think about it, we all leave high school physically, but far too many never leave high school mentally
I can’t imagine holding a dumb grudge for years and years. Chaos and Fluffy need to grow up. Hell, they’re older than ME and I feel second hand embarrassment. JAR, keep doing what you’re doing. You’re awesome
Dude, I know all too well about someone holding a dumb grudge against me. In high school, a guy and his friends picked on me because I didn't stop playing with his gundams that he brought to our stop-motion animation summer camp when we were something around 12. I understand why he didn't want me to because I was a problematic kid back then and with how the plastic on those models were, I could've easily broken them. But this dude went above and beyond to try and make me want to end myself out of guilt (I never wanted to, but I was clear that's what was his plan.) He said that he had a collapsed chest because I broke his heart, when he really just had a flat sternum. I kept apologizing for back then, but with a gleeful expression, he refused my apologies. I tried ignoring him, but it was like he got off to pestering me. One day at lunch, he and his dudes FINALLY forgave me and left me alone...only for them to suddenly prance around me and be the most annoying bodyguards ever. I caught on to their act, and they laughed at me when the jig was up. Finally, when in a classroom during lunch, he came in with one of the most ABSURD things ever: he reads a poem that he made himself that's about how much grief and sorrow I caused him by PLAYING WITH HIS GUNDAMS WHEN HE DIDN'T WANT ME TO. All while he had a greasy smile on his face. That just left me awe-struck at how far this guy was going with the bit. I was unironically speechless and had my jaw hanging open. I desided that this was the last straw and marched over to the teacher to tell them about what was going on. The guy stopped picking on me for the rest of my time in high school after that day. But I did see him again at one point at the other side of the schoolyard... And all I saw on his face when he looked at me was pure. Cold. RAW. *HATRED.* I'm glad I never saw him again because I fear that I just made him worse.
I say consult with a lawyer, see if you have a slander/harassment case and press charges for mental distress and any other thing your consultant could add. This level of harassment and petty behaviour is unacceptable and disgusting. This is obviously being done to you with malicious intent. “Haha it’s just a joke bro” won’t protect them in a legal setting. You’re a good man JAR. Keep strong and let us. Your community know how we can best help you my dude.
It’s genuinely scary that people can just fake “evidence” so easily that it’s scary. It’s also scary people go out of their way to do something like this just because or reasons that are pathetic.
and despite how many times this happens despite the fact so many of these accusers have no qualms with making call out posts on twitter, but are too scared to take "genuine dangers to society" to court (I literally can remember 1, not guilty) people still believe them, every fucking time Like, not long ago someone has made one of these and came out to doing it in order to bait people that'd jump the gun and trust this kind of accusation without concrete proof. Someone slightly more competent can make one of these without the flaws even when they're not motivated by anything, imagine how many of these accusations the entire internet takes as fact are false
I'm autistic too, and hearing you at the end ask what you did to deserve this just hit so hard, since it feels like a lot of us get shit for no reason at all. You're very strong for standing your ground like this and continuing to stand your ground, good job :)
I have Autism too along with Anxiety and Diabetes but, considering all that Chris Chan stuff is still floating around, I refrain from telling people about my conditions. Having Autism with anxiety can be hard sometimes and the diabetes imho makes it worse because my low blood sugars cause me to very aggressive. Sometimes I even get depressed and think about..unaliving myself too. Hearing JaR’s story nearly brought me to tears and I just feel bad about how badly people are treating him.
To answer that question, by the way, I guess the thing he did to deserve this is... just exist. That's not me saying that, it's people like Chaos basically implying it and me not agreeing with it at all. It's shit like this that makes me think Jason Todd had a point and that some people are hopeless. I'm not just talking deviants, but people who falsely claim someone else is a deviant. And no, I'm not a hardcore Christian who hates the LGBT, sxy people or artists. I don't think they're deviants, despite some people using that word as a slur to them. I'm only saying deviants as a blanket term for the worst people ever, and if I called them what they deserve to be called, TH-cam would remove this response. Like I said, I'm also fed up with people who make unfounded claims of someone else being that kind of person because it could ruin someone's life. It's ironic that they claimed Jar made someone disappear, again using that word as a replacement for a word that has no business being censored, when their claims could make Jar disappear. Why won't TH-cam listen and help us?
I am autistic as well, and that very question haunted me for a long time. It was made worse by the fact I didn't know I was autistic, and didn't realize I just how bad my understanding of social interactions was.
@@Cerebrum123 It’s honestly horrific that we have to take the blame or take the fall for the people who hurt us and the people that refuse to understand our condition. I thought it was just my bad luck, I’m not even relieved to know I’m not alone with all of this. I really hope you’re doing well :)
@@kachipopo1852It is indeed horrific how much can be blamed on autistic people just trying to live their lives, even if no one knows the person is autistic. I was only diagnosed this year at age 35, so no one knew I had it. I used to think all of it was my fault, or bad luck as you say. I heard over and over from many sources that I was the problem, that I must have done something wrong, that people don't just act that way without a reason, they don't mean to be that way etc. I eventually found out that in a handful of cases my actions unintentionally* caused people to get the wrong idea. However in many others there was nothing I could have done. Sometimes other people are the problem. Figuring out which interactions are which is still difficult in some cases. Without understanding where some of my own shortcomings were, it was even more difficult to try and figure out which was which. Fortunately I have a better understanding of certain things, and that is helping untangle the mess of interactions I've had over the years. I understand where you are coming from with not being relieved to find out others had the same experience. On the one hand it probably feels a bit validating to see it's not just you, and you aren't causing the issues, but on the other you don't want others to suffer what you've been through. I have very mixed feelings on the subject due to that. I wouldn't wish the treatment I've had on anyone. Despite the problems I do have, I'm probably better off now than I was in pretty much any prior period of my life. I've found a mostly understanding friend group, and some of the people who weren't exactly great to me before have moved past that. I hope you are doing well too. *I've also done some dumb stuff that I regret that were intentional, but I'd think most people do. I try to treat people how I would want to be treated, but I've failed at that from time to time.
It's so fucking terrible that people online have the mentality that they can do whatever the fuck they want/accuse anyone they want And have nothing said or done about them. I hope the people who accused/ harassed you learn that this is something NOBODY should do
Damn, this is sad...people trying to cancel other people by fabricating false evidence due to petty reasons...some people need to get a hobby 🙄 Sorry this situation is still ongoing JAR and I hope for the best for you.
This is why I insist the current hysteria over certain topics is not helping anyone. It leads to false accusations, just like with any other mass hysteria. Centuries ago it was witches. Nowadays it is a certain word which starts with p. Same purpose, different methods.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo I agree. I feel like the p word is now constantly thrown around. I completely support if the accuser has proper evidence and actually does it to warn people. However, it is not an accusation one should make if they are not able to definitely prove their claim, as it could destroy the life of an innocent person. And certainly should not be used as some kind of petty revenge. Idk if JUST A ROBOT is a predator. Honestly, so many were outed it would not surprise me at this point. But just a proper rule: Innocent until proven guilty.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo it’s literally projared and the spoctor theory drama all over again. We still haven’t learned why we should check evidence before believing it.
seriously we need to drop the word "groomer" already. It's a stupid word that means nothing at this point. It's been thrown around so much that you can't find someone who isn't a groomer. Especially the LGBTQ community got hit the hardest with it. Just mentioning you're gay gets you a "okay groomer", for no reason at all.
You are a strong person. I was falsely accused of grooming as well. I was in a mental position where I had no self esteem and could not defend myself. They knew this. It was a malicious attempt to get me to off myself because they knew I was being abused at home by my unsupportive parents. In a twisted sort of way, they were the ones preying on ME. I trusted them blindly during our friendship and NOBODY believed me when I said the allegations were false. Although it's been months and i've been trying my best to move on, I still have very deeply rooted psychological trauma from getting slandered and I have an inablity to form friendships now, I still have nightmares, I still feel like shutting everybody out because I think everybody is inherently "evil". False allegations like these are no joke and I respect you for being so unbreakable in the face of all this. I think you should look in the mirror everyday and thank yourself. You seem like a genuine person. A genuine person who's strength gets heavily underesimated by those around him. Thank you for making this video. It should be a good example for all victims of defamation. I don't want to make any assumptions about you since we're strangers to each other. But I do hope you were able to shake this off. For myself; I am struggling to heal from this wound. Seeing your confidence however is aidding my pain.
Ew. Sounds like you ran into some kind of narcicisst... When I was working thorough my own friendship issues, I took to stoicism as an outlet to help me garner some resolve of my own, and I cannot recommend it enough to people who are going through tough situations. If you haven't given the Enchiridion or Marcus Aurelius' Meditations a read yet, you should. It helped me disconnect from things that don't truly matter, and helped me understand that the only thing stopping me from living a happy life was myself and no one else. We are a gregarious and social species, but we all have faults of our own, and therefore we should not place too many expectations on fellow men. Focus on making _yourself_ proud of you first. Whether or not they see the improvement is no concern of yours, because approval of others is fickle. If they want to believe in a lie, let them. That is their prerogative. Feel sympathy for them; they will never understand the friend they missed out on. Here ya go, this guy explains it a bit more in depth. Give this a watch, if you will. Einzelganger usually gives good insight. th-cam.com/video/teqOInIwoUI/w-d-xo.html
I had my own part of friends, I thought I could trust, Now they are a living nightmare, I hide trying to get away from those people, those people caused me to have severe depression and other shit, And one friend knew this since I keep coming out to her, J and Her dumb friend Fen (I will name them this) kept bothering me about shit to the point I snap and yell at other people causing people to finally have enough of me, And those 2 always does that, Always find ways to make me mad, Make me snap, And I have to apologize to that group for my wrong doing, And they laugh about it, Always joking about me yelling, Making fun of me, And i hate even when they "roast me" or roast other people to laugh when they are sad, If I ever remotely even blame J, I will rather get lamed at, Or they will just not believe me and call it excuses, Even then, It's like they cared more about other people, J kept threating too paper cut (Ima just say that) and whenever her gf breaks up with her, She turns very demonic, Like, She Cries, Acts all crazy, Screams and Yells, But with me, They get annoyed or mad Now I'm far from those people, I have a BFF that I would always see as family (also I still have my irl friends soooo I'm alright) sadly It's like I keep hearing them, Or it's like they are In my head, And maybe by the time I grow up I will forget about them So I guess for now I have a happy ending
@CoyDioscuri As life really took, I will say, Now my life goes over the place, 1st my best friend (I'm gonna call her sayori here) Is dating a 20 or 21 year old person (shes 16 btw), And when I tried to step away for awhile and worry about my actual life, She unfriended me, About that, The 20/21 year old guy know what happened in the past, And since I has a mental breakdown about it, I wanted to for sure self delete, So I told one of my old friends to add a other old friend and let life get even worse, Luckily, She was somehow forgiving and she swarn to keep her mouth shut and not spread things about me and the other people, The group that I was in, Broke apart, Beacuse too much dramas and such, So I'm doing okay now, And I hope you do okay, I also don't like touching on the fact that I was, Desprate for a relationship and dated someone I wasn't suppose to, But now, I know my wrongs and rights, So I stepped away from the person (she was younger then me, Around 12) And like you sorta, I wanna upload videos and such, But I'm afraid those people will ruin my crap and then cancel culture will try to get me off the internet
@CoyDioscuri as a terrible person I am, I do think I deserve some bad stuff, But what they did, 1st they leaked my address, 2nd threatend me on calling the police and get me arrested so I can be r@ped in jail, Then 3d make fun of the fact I will not get a job and rot homeless, So then ofc, We fixed the problem, But then the last straw was all the stuff they said, So I ran off, Hoping they do not find me
I hate when people make up allegations like these just they can make a point or try to ruin some life because they don't like them that's why i don't really trust people anymore
Again I feel embarrassed I ever idolized her for simply being a Wiccan online who knew more than me. Thank fuck we have far better role models that don't lie in such disgusting ways to save their own hides. BlueRaven666 is a TRUE role model and actually teaches people beyond the occasional tidbit Chaos added into her videos at times. Can't people just stop lying already and be honest? No obviously fake screenshots, no bullshit, no running away. Just pure honesty about it all. Is that really too much to ask? You'd think Chaos would be far more careful with her channel. She's already been demonized as a Wiccan on her channel by parents of children who watch her. Granted I have to press x to doubt on that so hard now given whatelse she's already lied about. But if this in fact true, and she was sent emails from parents, then she's making herself look worse. AND COULD MAKE OTHERS WITHIN THE WICCAN COMMUNITY LOOK WORSE ALONGSIDE HER. Not only is it embarrassing, it's putting others at risk. Chaos if you ever read this, which I doubt, grow up past the pettiness, and be the better person for once damn you. Tell us the fucking truth and nothing but. At this point, being honest may be the only way you can save your channel. Also to anyone watching her, I mean it when I say there's far more mature and better role models/teachers on TH-cam. Go to people like BlueRaven666. I've been watching them for a few years now and have gained more knowledge and confidence in my abilities than anywhere else(aside from my Mother that is).
If you're looking for forums to learn from, there's this one website I frequent that I can give you the name of. It's kind of like the Wikipedia of witchcraft though, and the experienced members are trying to clear up a lot of misinformation there.
@@Zorovee I appreciate it but I'm doing well in the knowledge department these days. I even know how to use tarot cards now. That and looking at forums or sites is usually a last resort these days for me. Not everything is accurate everywhere and occasionally people have different information than each other about things like stones or deities. There's no set agreement on this stuff so it gets real confusing very quickly. I don't like getting confused as it leads to frustration, and can then lead to emotions I'd rather keep in better check.
@@Zorovee No problem. I know from experience as looking for stuff on Anubis was difficult. Quite a few differences in information there. I honestly should ask him instead at this point like BlueRaven does of his deities. If you're curious my list of deities in order of appearance in my life are Gabriel, Anubis, Freya, and most recently Hel(or Hela as I sometimes call her as well). Funfact about Hel actually, Freya was the one who led me to her on an astral projection trip. One that proved to be very emotional but empowering as well. I'd share more details but for now I'd rather not unless specifically asked. I don't usually make a habit of discussing my faith, path, or practices in comments unless I feel safe enough in doing so. Seen too many cases of skeptics getting onto Wiccans for sharing their experiences or simply poke fun.
@@UnseelieFaelass While I personally don't follow a pantheon, I'm glad you found your own and can forge such a meaningful connection with the gods. I'm more into the divination, astral projection, and spirit work side of things. Once I have enough money saved up I'll buy a tarot deck and begin practice. Reading only goes so far, haha
yikes. I'm really sorry that this whole garbage situation happened to you, Jar. I've been a fan of Chaos for a while, but around 2 years ago stopped watching them. I'm only just now learning about this situation, and I feel so desgusted and dissapoined in them. Stay strong, Jar! I'm sure that everything will turn out well for you in the end!
Honestly, I feel nothing but disappointment for Chaos. While I didn't really look up to her or anything, I enjoyed listening to the story time videos either her experiences or others submitted in the background as I worked on my art. Hell because of her I discovered Wicca as well. But Chaos being this way behind the scenes and being this petty trying to drag down people she doesn't like really leaves me with just... Well, disappointment
@New Zealand Bootleg Dumbsville from 2000 nah, he was sent to this heaven place with the echidnas or some shit, he didn't actually die, just returned to where he belonged
I forever despise people who have the audacity to lie about these kind of things. They make it VERY hard for REAL victims and innocent accused to come out. I’m genuinely sorry JAR is going through this.
If you think you found someone to be a pedo or child groomer. Please, contact your authorities first before exposing them online. That's why EDP445 was never arrested for the stuff he did.
I wish that he *was* arrested because that mess can't go on. I've already saw some videos about what EDP had said about the teenage girls and what he wanted to do to them. :(
oh hey lookie it’s my art :D but seriously, aren’t some of you guys tired of making false grooming allegations against others? It really takes away from victims that have been groomed for real. It’s not funny, it’s not trendy, none of that, it’s fucking horrible and shame on you for even trying to ruin another an innocent person who hasn’t done this kind of thing. I’ve been groomed before when I was 13-17 by the same person, as someone who has been groomed before, this really hurts because it makes victims have a harder time to come out about this kind of thing. seriously, shoo.
It could also get an innocent person seriously hurt. People understandably do not like child abusers and vigilante justice towards abusers is universally acceptable.
I'm not because I... oh nice art, BTW... I'm not tired of making false allegations because I don't do that. I just like being kind to people, but this decade proves that some people don't deserve my mercy.
It's disgusting to see what some people are capable of doing..and I think it's just unacceptable. Claiming such serious allegations on an innocent person and faking evidence is just trashy imo.
Hearing you near to tears at the end of the video, reminded me that just because you come off as unbothered and clear headed in your videos, you’re obviously affected by the things around you. I know that’s obvious, you’re a human being. I’m really sorry you had to go through something so traumatic at a young age, that adults were acting like children online to harass you, and that it hasn’t stopped even now. I truly wish the best for your JAR, I hope one day you get the apology you deserve from Chaos, and so many others.
Honestly I saw this coming. If you’re a popular channel or person in general online, it’s only a matter of time before people make these false allegations on you for literally no reason (I mean hell you were accused for murder so of course people would try to accuse you of this next).
The whole thing is really sad. It’s really scary how a lot of these false allegations are coming out as of late. And for what? It really for not only for actual victims since most that attention isn’t focused on them but also to the people who are being falsely accused, since it ruins a lot of their image and trust. And all that for just petty reasons? I really do hope that the drama does end and things go well for you.
Honestly chaos has a lot of problems, The fact that she can’t admit that she was wrong says a lot about her. Hell she went out of her way to make false allegations to get rid of jar to avoid apologizing. Like this entire thing is so stupid.😑🐱
Sorry that this happened to you. No one deserves to get falsely accused of such horrendous stuff. Don't worry about me trying to witch hunt them. They're not worth it.
I'm only 3 minutes in but wowwwwww this is friggin ridiculous. I appreciate the more light hearted tone, but it seriously pisses me off when people fake this kind of thing to cancel someone they dislike.
@@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR oof yeah it does. I'm sorry youve gone through all this bs, and props to you for still being able to confront it with poise and humor, if I were in your spot I'd probably be sobbing on someone else's livestream making a complete fool of myself. Also, as a member of the esteemed group of JAR annoyers, I'm personally offended by these liars. It's like I'm a clown offended by the joker, like "dude, this job is about having fun and spreading joy, you're just hurting people for your own amusement. And you DON'T EVEN HAVE A CLOWN EGG, what a poser."
Why people are so attention starved to the point of MAKING UP SHEIT just to get drama rolling? Your situation, Slazo, Pyrocynical- it's just batsheit insane how ppl are willing to go that far just for some random internet clicks.
True. The issue is that online(especially on discord and Twitter), this kind of thing is encouraged. It’s mostly because it gives people the chance to unreasonably harass or openly express hatred towards a person. It’s just people bullying but they try to justify it through the lens of being virtuous.
Because so many people have accused creators and others of being predators, and a lot of them being false, it's starting to become a "boy who cried wolf" situation, it's really disappointing. It's very dangerous for both the accused and the actual victims.
I adore your vids Jar, it keeps me from thinking 'yea I should get into commentary' because I do not think I could deal with what you deal with. Like at all.
Watched your video live and......good lord Chaos and Fluffy really need to grow up and actually act like adults and get over freakin Deviantart crap Also, by call 4......holy crap my dude, if I ever mess up and cross paths with you(which unlike Chaos and Fluffy I'm not terminally online) I should just go ahead and let you put me in my place and not LIE TO YOU or act like a smug smartass
"Then go to bed then!" -Said some dumbass that lacks in self awareness of the situation they created. I usually don't comment on videos like these because I just don't either one of two things, to either not cause unnecessary conflict with others who disagree or two, to not look like an idiot. But this situation is as painfully obvious where this is going as I am expecting now. So I have no fear on what to believe more on. To not sound like I am siding with Jar just because I always go on his side, two things one, I honestly did like some of Chaos' videos she had some personal takes on. And two, Jar had made some other dumbass mistakes in the past, technically this reflects on him today, but nothing malicious, but it does show when he wants to belittle anyone he has no real leg to stand on, he made an ass of himself more times than not. Like what he did with Johnswan and Mr.Enter. For Mr.Enter that was technically Digby's video, but their takes was given little to no context for anyone not knowing who he is, it literally looks like two douchebags ganging on a guy with passion, a rather foolish passion, but a passion nether the less. But ever since I always see Jar no better than someone like Mr.Enter, mostly because he tends to be lazy and make the dumbest of mistakes, like Enter. The disabilities just makes their similarities more noticeable. So yeah, I can admit when TH-camrs I like watching can has shitty moments and still be willing to watch more. Unlike most people, I'm not petty, well at least no where near to these people's level.
I use to watch chaos, for a long time. It's not like I can't believe she'd do this, it's more sad then anything. I hope this ends soon for your sanity Jar. No one should have to go through this much drama in this long of a time span.
Same as that, watched her years ago and glad I stopped watching her stuff cuz I started thinking she was odd and now I know that I was right. Still disappointing to see she isn't just odd, she nuts and spiteful.
I'm sorry you had to go through that, hope you are doing fine but I know it'll never fully heal And yes, it's absolutely disgusting; plus all of this started over freakin Deviantart "drama" when these are fully grown adults and not teenagers anymore
I remember when I first started watching Chaos55t and feeling seen because she is also a witch. But the way she treated you and so many others is downright despicable and disproportionate! And she claims to be Wiccan yet the first rule of Wicca is: “An it harm none, do what ye will.” Yet she treats it like something for clout and harassed people for no gods damn reason! I know it’s best to show sympathy for your enemy at all times but as someone who is also autistic and was bullied all my life, I really feel for JAR in this situation. I sencearly hope you finally get the respect you deserve JAR.
29:42 Apparently what you “did to deserve this” was that you made the hether pack look stupid by being the only one to talk with PrincessElisabeth like an adult. So the whole thing was basically their revenge. The whole doll face thing was just the excuse that they were using to justify the whole thing.
I’m sorry to hear that you’re dealing with this shit again at least no one’s jumping the gun and believing it this could’ve gotten a lot worse but I’m glad It didn’t and I really hope things get better for you also try to stay calm and try to make as few as mistakes as possible they’re waiting for you to slip up to use anything against you also please promise me you won’t quit TH-cam because of stuff like this I really love your concert and I’d miss you if you left I know sometimes it’s hard and you feel like you have a lot of enemies from one of your allies and I hope you never give up
too relatable. i respect how you handled it, and i hate someone else fell victim to the swapping of discord names and ids and labeling it as "proof" people who take advantage of others like this and claim its truth really devalue actual victims of abuse are literally the worst.
The fact this drama is going on for 7+ years is insane like I'm a petty person but damn. Glad the "evidence" was laughably fake lmao hopefully this won't happen again.
The internet never used to be like this. It seems since zoomers have aged up, the topic of child predators and grooming is all over social media and false accusations are everywhere. Dammit those are serious topics that are being desensitised. I have 2 very young children and I don’t appreciate any of this bs. I’m sorry this happened to you (false accusations and being framed). It’s all beyond ridiculous and you don’t need this stress. This type of thing can ruin lives and the words being used a far more powerful than the people using them know.
Dear lord, I wasn't even aware of this extremely poor attempt at false allegations. This is an even worse job than what Stories did with Spoctor(Who tried to make the screenshots look real, but the results still looked shady). It was pretty easy to spot the edits and artifacts when I made the video full screen.
A better piece of evidence that isn't as easily faked is a message link. Not only will it show you the original message, but also who sent it and the sender's original user ID. Faking tags and screenshots can only go so far.
So when I was in high school, there was a girl in my friend group that... decided she could not take the world as it was anymore... To be honest it was sad as she was one of the biggest personalities in our friend group, always super friendly and super cheerful. She loved her boyfriend and all of us cherished her friendship. While I didn't know her, super well... at least as well as the other friends in my friend group... I did care about her, heck there wasn't many people she met that she didn't have a positive effect on. Point I am making here is... that while I share this story, I don't like talking about it too people who I am not friends with... I want to honor their memory by trying to do the best and keeping a positive light in my life... And to use suicide, faked or not as a justification to dogpile on someone is just... Doesn't sit well with me. I really wish I could talk some sense into these kids, but I do not know them so therefore all i will do is say. JAR just keep doing your thing! I have been watching you since a little before the stories drama! You keep going and we will support you no matter what!
*munching on popcorn* Damn. Leo is my kinda guy. No nonsense. By the book. Now the fact that Chaos and one her friends is doing this is disheartening. She was one of my favorite TH-camrs due to her calm story time visit. It encouraged me to look into Wicca and other religions of that sort. That said.....I am not a fan of what she and fluffy are doing. They are grown adults. They should know that their actions have consequences. The fact that they feel that slander was the way to go is sickening.
There was one phrase from the Bible that I recall sums up this situation perfectly. John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Now, bare in mind I understand that Wicca has no ties into Christianity. But Wiccans tend to call themselves Witches. While I'm still interested in Tarot Card reading as a mental health exercise, that doesn't mean that I'll actively lie about the fortunes I tell. Lies can be used for good, but a good portion of the time they do far more harm than good.
11:56-12:36 for JAR debunking the messages live. Maybe this can be used as a youtube clip, but this pretty much show these claims were fake. That being said, I'm pretty upset (but not surprised coming from twitter) ppl aren't gonna watch atleast the first two minutes of this video just because of the thumbnail or the fact they despise JAR. Even if I don't like a person over their bad (past) takes, I hate false accusations like this even more.
Also, 11:08 Fluffy gotta learn to punctuate her sentences while typing. It's driving me nuts trying to read... Aaaand same goes for the doofus who dropped the google drop in the first place. Especially when they DM'ed Lio @ 19:40 😭
good job jar, this video and drama is now on my rewatch list. Simply because It reminds me how stupidly comical and petty the internet is. I saw this video and was so confused by the title- like for the exact reasons you later state in the video. Kinda depressing how silly these dramas are getting- and how their outlandish plots are becoming so normal I cant tell if Im on a stupid sitcom or witnessing real life-
... As someone who was gr**med as a child... By some of my sister's boyfriends and a couple of people outside of that... I hate it when people falsely accuse people... Hell, I was called a gr**mer when I was a child... Because I was being gr**med myself by the same person. There are people who really are bad and falsely accusing others of the stuff, doesn't help catch real ones... It makes it harder, and you could accidentally hurt or traumatize the victim in the situation! You are one tough cookie, JAR. I'm ashamed of the people I used to watch... They are acting so childish! You are doing amazing, dude. keep up all the good work
Jeez, I can feel the pain in your voice at the end there, this is more pain than anyone really deserves and all because of one comment that ticked someone off. Sorry you had to go through all of that. Hopefully things get better for you moving forward.
I saw the thumbnail fiasco on Twitter. I genuinely can't wrap my head around this stupidity. How have we fallen this low as a species, to assume guilt by a thumbnail to a video? The mental gymnastics of these terminally online people is beyond pathetic.
@@jordanjoestar-turniptruck That's is nightmarishly consistent. Funny enough, it's the same mental gymnastics every time, when they justify it or double down.
Sorry you had to go through all of this, JAR. Though, at least you still have your sanity in spite of experiencing so much hardship. Hope you can get some more closure when this is all over.
People keep saying "they did this for clout/drama/views" when literally the only thing that has persisted in this community is that people will do anything to snuff out a supposed threat. Even when that threat isn't all that threatening. They'll make fun of someone just purely to be in good standings with others of the same community. It's a cannibalistic mob doomed to eat itself out and go after whoever is the peak hot-button problem. They will never evolve from this.
(Warning long) This is why I'm so scared of getting into the art community and TH-cam in general. I want to be able to share my work and stuff I'm passionate about, and be able to communicate with fans. But I'm so scared I would get allegations for being a groomer or getting doxxed just because someone didn't like me. I've done some stupid stuff in the past, I used to be a hardcore conservative (I hate thinking about it, too), and said some homophobic and transphobic stuff in the past (all internalized). I regret ever doing that stuff, and it disgusts me I had a mindset like that, I'm glad I've changed and learned to accept myself and be happy for others. It's even worse because I'm about to turn 18, I barely know anything about court and law and if someone were to do something I wouldn't have anyway to defend myself, I can't afford a lawyer. I just want to be able to do commissions so I can have extra pocket money for college, all while not worrying about someone trying to destroy my life. Best of luck to you, Robot, I hope people will come to their senses, apologize for being asses, admit to their mistakes, and just grow as people. Everything would be so much better if people would do this. Maybe one day all this will stop when people start admitting stuff, but this isn't even at its peak. This drama could either land roughy or violently crash. People have already been hurt but if more information (false or true) gets leaked, more people are going to get hurt. There's no easy way out, but if people who did wrong would just admit and apologize, people could move on. Those who screwed up might lose everything on TH-cam, but that's better than having innocent people be falsely accused of serious crimes. I believe people can change, and they could always come back when they grown as people.
You can still make videos showing off your artwork and your drawing skills, but you don’t necessarily need to commentate about drama or anything. You can share your opinions about video games while doing fanart relating to the game. Doesn’t necessarily have to be video games you can do the same thing for a cartoons or whatever other shows or movies you like. For example I’m going to be drawing a few images of shadow the hedgehog while I talk about my predictions for how he might be handled in the sonic three movie. Where comes to interacting with people in the community, when saying how many people have been revealed as being two-faced manipulators and creeps it’s best not to get overly attached to people you colab with. Like don’t be so quick to label them as your best friend and be so trusting of them. Also when it comes to alligation stuff you can get them from your own “fans“ so it is extremely important that early on if you want to be a content creator you set your boundaries of what you are not going to tolerate when it comes to your fans. Especially when it comes to minors trying to initiate inappropriate conversations with you. And if they wanna show their ass and make fun of you for not being OK with what they want to talk to you about that’s what the Block button is for. Honestly it’s just best to communicate with people out in the open and not in private DM since those can easily be manipulated and twist a narrative. I have witnessed so much bs I don’t dare get close to that many people online. I keep my distance especially if the person is part of the art commentary community.
Hard agree. I wanted to start a channel about art and commentary, two things I enjoy doing, but I have autism and I’m scared that may cause me to make a mistake or explain something poorly no matter how much effort I put into perfecting it. These kids are genuinely terrifying
I'm so sorry you're still going through this, especially because you've countlessly given others the benefit of the doubt and wanted nothing but validation for what you had to go through. I'm also the type of person who wants to acknowledge any pain I've caused others and have been critical of my own faults and misjudgments. I'm like this because I know what it feels like when it goes unrecognized and dismissed. That being said, I've never seen such a malicious and thorough attempt to defame someone for something so trivial. I'm glad you have a solid support system who knows better than to take things like this at face value and know how to think critically. That sort of thing is hard to find on TH-cam, but I can't think of anyone who deserves it more. Take care. You have my full support. I hope this is well and truly over.
As a person who has been accused of being an enjoyer of cp, I feel like I relate more strongly to accused people if the accusations don't have much proof to them so hearing that a youtuber I enjoy watching from time to time is accused of something really bad, I just feel sad honestly. Btw, just to make it clear for my situation, it happened multiple months ago and was on a small scale as the highest thing I am in influence is a discord staff member for a small discord server of about 400 people with only about 50 actually being active.
Well this makes sense, considering that aside from the situation with omnia And defnoodles , this month has been quiet, no wonder someone would make a doc at the end of july to start a Lil' drama. (And to slander JAR)
This looked like it was gonna be one mind numbing headache. Literally the whole timeline was broken and most of everyone involved was either in the wrong, or slightly misinformed
I'm so so so sorry you went through that because those type of allegations can do some SERIOUS damage to a person's life. Both on the internet and in person, so glad to see that things were brought to light and it's absolutely insane someone has such bad intentions towards you that they would go this far
Any time I see a grooming allegation thrown out on the internet, I ask myself, if this is true why not tell, oh I don’t know, the police? The people who would actually be able to do something instead of a Twitter crowd?
Jesus christ. I used to look up to Chaos when I was younger and this just fucking disgusts me as a grooming victim. I'm sorry you have to deal with this shit JAR.
I hate how people just accuse someone of something heinous so nonchalantly. I saw a few comments just accusing a bunch of random TH-camrs for pro shipping and grooming yet wouldn’t even dare to provide evidence either that or they were just taken completely out of context and just plain false.
I like when people pair pro shipping with literal grooming because in their brain , both are on the same level of seriousness when one contains actual real victims. Like mentioning someone doesn’t like to pay taxes and after mentioning he killed 5 people.
if these thing are coming these days these accusers are just jelous losers with a very empty life they really need a hobby or partner to show off to the internet keep on going my man and dont be afraid of these cowerds ❤
Someone linked me this doc because they knew I watched JAR. I actually thought it was a joke with how bad all of it was. People really don't want to leave JAR alone.
I hope they cut the bullshit and finally leave you alone. I'm also autistic, and have dealt with slander of similar nature from previously close friends, and I know it is super stressful. Everything seems obvious, but other people fall for it, and it is SO infuriating. I'm glad they botched the hell out of this so it wasn't as destructive to your reputation as it could have been, but it's still damaging because of the people who take things like this at face value and for the amount of energy you had to spend defending yourself.
I'm so sorry that this happened to you I don't know why people always try to ruin other people's lives for no reason and it upsets me because I've always thought that Humanity should be better than that
We support you jar it clear that these accusations were made because of your video about your past and how it exposed many people for being awful humans and they are upset because you showed the truth and I can't wait to see your next vid and hope these fake accusers face justice and punishment
Another reason why social media is toxic. You have butthurt people lying about you behind your back just so they can form mobs and witch hunts on you while they’re behind a screen.
This all just feels like a bunch of weirdos lying about something way too serious and not being willing to admit they lied. Trying everything to cover it up but only making fools of themselves.
It's been exactly 11 months since this situation. As far as I seen Chaos never addressed this and personally I say it's too late to come clean, unless they're not the ones who set this up, just wrong place and wrong time sort of scenario. (I personally doubt that scenario, but there's always that possibility.)
Holy Shit man I had no idea this was going on I'm sorry for what's happening to you, bro. People like to point fingers at the weird guy because people will believe it without actually investigating it.
this is hard because ive been watching some of these art youtubers since i was a child myself and its honestly really depressing to learn all of this. i truly do not believe you deserved any of this JAR, and it makes me depressed to know that as a child i even drew fanart for chaos and loulou at one point. its disappointing and i hope you can heal from this bullshit
I haven't heard JAR this pissed since the video where TMossBoss started becoming evil. If JAR is feeling emotional over this situation then it's serious.
Its really nuts how much these people want to throw shit at you over absolutely nothing. Chaos is really fucking crazy if she's the one behind this "which is most likely " and it's really sad knowing what she's done cuz I loved her content and art. It's really fucked up seeing how much you've been through because of these people and that it's still going on. You deserved none of it!
Jesus I'm really sorry all this shit has been happening to you all this time JAR, this whole drama has seriously gotten out of control. I really hope things start to get better for you soon, and we're all here to support you no matter what.
So sorry you have to deal with this bs constantly. The truth will always come out in these situations, so just stay strong. Between the blatantly false allegations and the terribly edited "evidence" nobody with any actual common sense or critical thinking skills would fall for this. Not much more can be done, but I'll be praying for you man, I can't imagine how it feels to be in this position, and over something so petty from years ago.
damn chaos, what the hell!? i used to watch their content quite a bit back when i was still in school and seeing how they turned out like this, shameful
Damn JAR Back at it again with White Vans, on a serious note though I really do feel for you dude, this kind of stuff is dangerous and people that throw accusations like this around over petty reasons just highlights how delusional they can be. I hope things start looking up for you soon
While I’m not a very big fan of your content, I’m terribly sorry for this happening to you (and the twitter people blaming you based on a thumbnail :| ). Such blatantly false accusations are truly vile, it’s like seeing a repeat of what happened to Vinny all over again.
I just want to say this. While I don’t entirely get being driven to that point over what is basically internet drama. Where you are basically anonymous and can choose to leave at anytime. I get that due to your background of basically being shelter with limited access to other people. That group was basically as real to you as my old friend group was to me. I was also betrayed by them as well huge falling out. So I get wanting to call it quits on life because of that.
hey dude you explained how some people can be really horrible to you, you see i had some friends online and they were racist rude and constantly harassing me and i felt like s**t. every minor insult they said to me would destroy me, i felt powerless and terrible and even considered killing myself. in the end i got through and my discord got recently raided by them, then i promptly banned them. anyways, you describe really well what some people will do to get under your skin and try to completely mentally destroy you and you boosted my confidence and overall happiness and just wanted to say thank you dude.
It's disgusting people would do this to you, I've seen way too many TH-camrs I like get accused of things like this and the fact they've been after you for years really shows how pety they are I hope you can find a way to get rid of this, either taking a break or just showing your the bigger person and I'm thankful they were easily disproven to clear your name
Good luck dude, I remember other TH-camrs getting falsely accused of things and never recovering, I’m sure the odds are in your favor and hopefully you get a pretty nice vacation from this mess of drama
As a fan of yours it is really sad to hear this is STILL happening! You have my support with this, even though it's just emotional every bit counts right? And hope this will go away very soon.
![[안방1열 풀캠4K] 베이비몬스터 'DRIP' (BABYMONSTER FullCam)│@SBS Inkigayo 241110](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AQ4RIghEvUs/mqdefault.jpg)
Same video but with the robot voice:
th-cam.com/video/iaSb5UX6DyE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JUSTAROBOT
WELL, THIS WAS A FUN VIDEO TO MAKE.
I made a mistake at 11:16 where I said alt discord account when I meant to say alt youtube account.
I'll be finishing up the robot voice for this video and the last one as soon as I can.
The next video is going to be something NOT to do with drama because I need a brake.
Another BIG thank you to PhoenixPeridot for the thumbnail
Twitter: twitter.com/PhoenixPeridot
Instagram: instagram.com/phoenixperidot/
TH-cam: th-cam.com/channels/qSrxGWrEOW4-2hqQVPNGwQ.html
You can watch the 2 video's about my past:
th-cam.com/video/m0ta4smjuNA/w-d-xo.html&t&ab_channel=JUSTAROBOT
th-cam.com/video/VZ-WWhJezmA/w-d-xo.html&t&ab_channel=JUSTAROBOT
Damn JAR, how you feeling now?
Watching this in school. Big shock when I saw that title lmfao
Mary Sue count on Rings of Power?
Eh, I don't think Junkie is involved, especially after what happened with Spoctor because he was pretty close to him at a time.
Bro Autism power lol.
I feel like this isn’t said enough, but it also affects actual victims. By making these random allegations towards people on the internet, real gr//omers and pr//dators will go underneath the radar. Even if there is proof to back it up that *insert well-known figure here* has been harassing and preying upon minors, people will be inclined to not believing them as there are situations like this floating around. It honestly disgusts me that this is happening as somebody who has been traumatized because of the things you’re being accused of. It’s just a lose-lose for everybody, as real victims will feel or be silenced about their experiences, but also people who have never done such things will be chastised. (Sorry for any spelling mistakes)
Idk bro, if they’re willing to speak up people will probably believe them.
Like, people believed this bullshit. So something with actual validity would probably work even better.
EDIT: what I mean is, if people can believe a false allegation, then people can believe a real one. There’s just as many people who believe everything than people who are skeptical.
As someone who has dealt with harassment of the....ahem kind....in the past, and as someone who has been SA in the past, nothing grinds my gears more than people who make false accusations of these very serious issues.
It's like they never heard of the boy who cried wolf, unfortunately, it won't be the same boy like in the story that gets eaten by the wolf because of people like this, it will be the next boy who unfortunately was telling the truth about the wolf that pays the price, but the town no longer believes there is a wolf in the woods because the previous boy kept lying about said wolf. Idk I'm word vomiting but you get what I mean I hope.
Reminds me of the lunchroom scene in Gumball when Gumball was going full SJW on Carmen Cactus and his Carmen said bad social justice can ruin causes and hurt people who really need our help.
@Hopeless Peaches : ok first of all HOLY GRACIOUS I WAS NOT EXPECTING YOU TO BE HERE, secondly I get it. I have been through what you have been through multiple times, and although I won’t get too into (because its personal obviously), it has affected me very badly.
Preach
You'd think adults would learn how to be adults.
We have someone who can't swallow their own pride and apologize over some dumb shit that happened on deviantART of all places.
Then we have Chaos's dumbass roomate who can't even BOTHER to do proper research because of clear hatred for Jar over petty shit. And we have Chaos who made not one, but two false allegations ON THE SAME PERSON.
This video and Ponders livestream was the Karma hammer striking down to shatter this stupid Larping attempt to get rid of someone.
As an adult pushing 30: no one matures
@@rubymeaddle That's true. My grandma (who's in her 70s) gets into petty arguments - and aggressive ones at that - with my aunt and uncle (who are pushing 50) I'm not not mature myself and neither are the people around me
Sadly, these DeviantART weebs attacking JaR aren't adults..They're adult children.
@@rubymeaddle I'm knocking on the door of 31, and I agree. If you think about it, we all leave high school physically, but far too many never leave high school mentally
I’m barely 19 (so technically legal but not fully and also still an adolescent) and I feel more mature than many of the “adults” on TH-cam.
I can’t imagine holding a dumb grudge for years and years. Chaos and Fluffy need to grow up. Hell, they’re older than ME and I feel second hand embarrassment.
JAR, keep doing what you’re doing. You’re awesome
Trust me. Living through that now. I just laugh now.
I feel the same
(Referring to Jynx)
We say they need to grow up but all this situation taught me is that Chaos55t will never change.
@@missingnotheglitchmon preach brother
Dude, I know all too well about someone holding a dumb grudge against me.
In high school, a guy and his friends picked on me because I didn't stop playing with his gundams that he brought to our stop-motion animation summer camp when we were something around 12. I understand why he didn't want me to because I was a problematic kid back then and with how the plastic on those models were, I could've easily broken them. But this dude went above and beyond to try and make me want to end myself out of guilt (I never wanted to, but I was clear that's what was his plan.)
He said that he had a collapsed chest because I broke his heart, when he really just had a flat sternum. I kept apologizing for back then, but with a gleeful expression, he refused my apologies. I tried ignoring him, but it was like he got off to pestering me. One day at lunch, he and his dudes FINALLY forgave me and left me alone...only for them to suddenly prance around me and be the most annoying bodyguards ever. I caught on to their act, and they laughed at me when the jig was up.
Finally, when in a classroom during lunch, he came in with one of the most ABSURD things ever: he reads a poem that he made himself that's about how much grief and sorrow I caused him by PLAYING WITH HIS GUNDAMS WHEN HE DIDN'T WANT ME TO. All while he had a greasy smile on his face.
That just left me awe-struck at how far this guy was going with the bit. I was unironically speechless and had my jaw hanging open.
I desided that this was the last straw and marched over to the teacher to tell them about what was going on. The guy stopped picking on me for the rest of my time in high school after that day.
But I did see him again at one point at the other side of the schoolyard...
And all I saw on his face when he looked at me was pure. Cold. RAW. *HATRED.*
I'm glad I never saw him again because I fear that I just made him worse.
They went from calling you racist to calling you a groomer? These people need to go outside and touch grass.
They probably don’t know what grass is.
@Hoppin&Poppin I’m not saying it’s the same exact people. I’m talking about the commentary/rant community as a whole.
@@thecrimsondragon2379 Or they think it's weed.
I say consult with a lawyer, see if you have a slander/harassment case and press charges for mental distress and any other thing your consultant could add. This level of harassment and petty behaviour is unacceptable and disgusting. This is obviously being done to you with malicious intent. “Haha it’s just a joke bro” won’t protect them in a legal setting.
You’re a good man JAR. Keep strong and let us. Your community know how we can best help you my dude.
It’s genuinely scary that people can just fake “evidence” so easily that it’s scary. It’s also scary people go out of their way to do something like this just because or reasons that are pathetic.
That's modern society for ya, blind obedience and fake accusations all around.
Even worse, in other situations some people can take real screenshots out of context and twist the truth into lies to be even more manipulative
You really just have to think of what is going on in their miserable, pathetic lives to be at this point
and despite how many times this happens
despite the fact so many of these accusers have no qualms with making call out posts on twitter, but are too scared to take "genuine dangers to society" to court (I literally can remember 1, not guilty)
people still believe them, every fucking time
Like, not long ago someone has made one of these and came out to doing it in order to bait people that'd jump the gun and trust this kind of accusation without concrete proof. Someone slightly more competent can make one of these without the flaws even when they're not motivated by anything, imagine how many of these accusations the entire internet takes as fact are false
Easy to fake, if nobody takes a close inspection of the image.
I'm autistic too, and hearing you at the end ask what you did to deserve this just hit so hard, since it feels like a lot of us get shit for no reason at all. You're very strong for standing your ground like this and continuing to stand your ground, good job :)
I have Autism too along with Anxiety and Diabetes but, considering all that Chris Chan stuff is still floating around, I refrain from telling people about my conditions. Having Autism with anxiety can be hard sometimes and the diabetes imho makes it worse because my low blood sugars cause me to very aggressive. Sometimes I even get depressed and think about..unaliving myself too. Hearing JaR’s story nearly brought me to tears and I just feel bad about how badly people are treating him.
To answer that question, by the way, I guess the thing he did to deserve this is... just exist. That's not me saying that, it's people like Chaos basically implying it and me not agreeing with it at all. It's shit like this that makes me think Jason Todd had a point and that some people are hopeless. I'm not just talking deviants, but people who falsely claim someone else is a deviant. And no, I'm not a hardcore Christian who hates the LGBT, sxy people or artists. I don't think they're deviants, despite some people using that word as a slur to them. I'm only saying deviants as a blanket term for the worst people ever, and if I called them what they deserve to be called, TH-cam would remove this response. Like I said, I'm also fed up with people who make unfounded claims of someone else being that kind of person because it could ruin someone's life. It's ironic that they claimed Jar made someone disappear, again using that word as a replacement for a word that has no business being censored, when their claims could make Jar disappear. Why won't TH-cam listen and help us?
I am autistic as well, and that very question haunted me for a long time. It was made worse by the fact I didn't know I was autistic, and didn't realize I just how bad my understanding of social interactions was.
@@Cerebrum123 It’s honestly horrific that we have to take the blame or take the fall for the people who hurt us and the people that refuse to understand our condition. I thought it was just my bad luck, I’m not even relieved to know I’m not alone with all of this. I really hope you’re doing well :)
@@kachipopo1852It is indeed horrific how much can be blamed on autistic people just trying to live their lives, even if no one knows the person is autistic. I was only diagnosed this year at age 35, so no one knew I had it. I used to think all of it was my fault, or bad luck as you say. I heard over and over from many sources that I was the problem, that I must have done something wrong, that people don't just act that way without a reason, they don't mean to be that way etc. I eventually found out that in a handful of cases my actions unintentionally* caused people to get the wrong idea. However in many others there was nothing I could have done. Sometimes other people are the problem. Figuring out which interactions are which is still difficult in some cases. Without understanding where some of my own shortcomings were, it was even more difficult to try and figure out which was which. Fortunately I have a better understanding of certain things, and that is helping untangle the mess of interactions I've had over the years.
I understand where you are coming from with not being relieved to find out others had the same experience. On the one hand it probably feels a bit validating to see it's not just you, and you aren't causing the issues, but on the other you don't want others to suffer what you've been through. I have very mixed feelings on the subject due to that. I wouldn't wish the treatment I've had on anyone.
Despite the problems I do have, I'm probably better off now than I was in pretty much any prior period of my life. I've found a mostly understanding friend group, and some of the people who weren't exactly great to me before have moved past that. I hope you are doing well too.
*I've also done some dumb stuff that I regret that were intentional, but I'd think most people do. I try to treat people how I would want to be treated, but I've failed at that from time to time.
It's so fucking terrible that people online have the mentality that they can do whatever the fuck they want/accuse anyone they want
And have nothing said or done about them. I hope the people who accused/ harassed you learn that this is something NOBODY should do
Damn, this is sad...people trying to cancel other people by fabricating false evidence due to petty reasons...some people need to get a hobby 🙄
Sorry this situation is still ongoing JAR and I hope for the best for you.
This is why I insist the current hysteria over certain topics is not helping anyone. It leads to false accusations, just like with any other mass hysteria.
Centuries ago it was witches. Nowadays it is a certain word which starts with p.
Same purpose, different methods.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo I agree. I feel like the p word is now constantly thrown around. I completely support if the accuser has proper evidence and actually does it to warn people. However, it is not an accusation one should make if they are not able to definitely prove their claim, as it could destroy the life of an innocent person. And certainly should not be used as some kind of petty revenge.
Idk if JUST A ROBOT is a predator. Honestly, so many were outed it would not surprise me at this point. But just a proper rule: Innocent until proven guilty.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo it’s literally projared and the spoctor theory drama all over again. We still haven’t learned why we should check evidence before believing it.
seriously we need to drop the word "groomer" already. It's a stupid word that means nothing at this point. It's been thrown around so much that you can't find someone who isn't a groomer.
Especially the LGBTQ community got hit the hardest with it. Just mentioning you're gay gets you a "okay groomer", for no reason at all.
JAR just can't catch a break with false allegations.
Let's see, racism, pedophilia and now grooming, what's next? Doxxing? Jesus Christ.
@@LeeferWeefer Yup. People have such an irrational hatred for this guy.
Yeah and he make some much good content
Jar is the most underrated TH-camr of all time
I remember that Twitter user I F###king. He is such a monster even before I deleted my Twitter account. He always tells JAR to go delete yourself.
You are a strong person. I was falsely accused of grooming as well. I was in a mental position where I had no self esteem and could not defend myself. They knew this. It was a malicious attempt to get me to off myself because they knew I was being abused at home by my unsupportive parents. In a twisted sort of way, they were the ones preying on ME. I trusted them blindly during our friendship and NOBODY believed me when I said the allegations were false. Although it's been months and i've been trying my best to move on, I still have very deeply rooted psychological trauma from getting slandered and I have an inablity to form friendships now, I still have nightmares, I still feel like shutting everybody out because I think everybody is inherently "evil". False allegations like these are no joke and I respect you for being so unbreakable in the face of all this. I think you should look in the mirror everyday and thank yourself. You seem like a genuine person. A genuine person who's strength gets heavily underesimated by those around him. Thank you for making this video. It should be a good example for all victims of defamation. I don't want to make any assumptions about you since we're strangers to each other. But I do hope you were able to shake this off. For myself; I am struggling to heal from this wound. Seeing your confidence however is aidding my pain.
Ew. Sounds like you ran into some kind of narcicisst...
When I was working thorough my own friendship issues, I took to stoicism as an outlet to help me garner some resolve of my own, and I cannot recommend it enough to people who are going through tough situations. If you haven't given the Enchiridion or Marcus Aurelius' Meditations a read yet, you should. It helped me disconnect from things that don't truly matter, and helped me understand that the only thing stopping me from living a happy life was myself and no one else.
We are a gregarious and social species, but we all have faults of our own, and therefore we should not place too many expectations on fellow men. Focus on making _yourself_ proud of you first. Whether or not they see the improvement is no concern of yours, because approval of others is fickle. If they want to believe in a lie, let them. That is their prerogative. Feel sympathy for them; they will never understand the friend they missed out on.
Here ya go, this guy explains it a bit more in depth. Give this a watch, if you will. Einzelganger usually gives good insight.
th-cam.com/video/teqOInIwoUI/w-d-xo.html
F the people who hurt you! Those loser freaks >:(
I had my own part of friends, I thought I could trust, Now they are a living nightmare, I hide trying to get away from those people, those people caused me to have severe depression and other shit, And one friend knew this since I keep coming out to her, J and Her dumb friend Fen (I will name them this) kept bothering me about shit to the point I snap and yell at other people causing people to finally have enough of me, And those 2 always does that, Always find ways to make me mad, Make me snap, And I have to apologize to that group for my wrong doing, And they laugh about it, Always joking about me yelling, Making fun of me, And i hate even when they "roast me" or roast other people to laugh when they are sad, If I ever remotely even blame J, I will rather get lamed at, Or they will just not believe me and call it excuses, Even then, It's like they cared more about other people, J kept threating too paper cut (Ima just say that) and whenever her gf breaks up with her, She turns very demonic, Like, She Cries, Acts all crazy, Screams and Yells, But with me, They get annoyed or mad
Now I'm far from those people, I have a BFF that I would always see as family (also I still have my irl friends soooo I'm alright) sadly It's like I keep hearing them, Or it's like they are In my head, And maybe by the time I grow up I will forget about them
So I guess for now I have a happy ending
@CoyDioscuri As life really took, I will say, Now my life goes over the place, 1st my best friend (I'm gonna call her sayori here) Is dating a 20 or 21 year old person (shes 16 btw), And when I tried to step away for awhile and worry about my actual life, She unfriended me, About that, The 20/21 year old guy know what happened in the past, And since I has a mental breakdown about it, I wanted to for sure self delete, So I told one of my old friends to add a other old friend and let life get even worse, Luckily, She was somehow forgiving and she swarn to keep her mouth shut and not spread things about me and the other people, The group that I was in, Broke apart, Beacuse too much dramas and such, So I'm doing okay now, And I hope you do okay, I also don't like touching on the fact that I was, Desprate for a relationship and dated someone I wasn't suppose to, But now, I know my wrongs and rights, So I stepped away from the person (she was younger then me, Around 12) And like you sorta, I wanna upload videos and such, But I'm afraid those people will ruin my crap and then cancel culture will try to get me off the internet
@CoyDioscuri as a terrible person I am, I do think I deserve some bad stuff, But what they did, 1st they leaked my address, 2nd threatend me on calling the police and get me arrested so I can be r@ped in jail, Then 3d make fun of the fact I will not get a job and rot homeless, So then ofc, We fixed the problem, But then the last straw was all the stuff they said, So I ran off, Hoping they do not find me
I hate when people make up allegations like these just they can make a point or try to ruin some life because they don't like them that's why i don't really trust people anymore
revie moment
Again I feel embarrassed I ever idolized her for simply being a Wiccan online who knew more than me. Thank fuck we have far better role models that don't lie in such disgusting ways to save their own hides. BlueRaven666 is a TRUE role model and actually teaches people beyond the occasional tidbit Chaos added into her videos at times. Can't people just stop lying already and be honest? No obviously fake screenshots, no bullshit, no running away. Just pure honesty about it all. Is that really too much to ask?
You'd think Chaos would be far more careful with her channel. She's already been demonized as a Wiccan on her channel by parents of children who watch her. Granted I have to press x to doubt on that so hard now given whatelse she's already lied about. But if this in fact true, and she was sent emails from parents, then she's making herself look worse. AND COULD MAKE OTHERS WITHIN THE WICCAN COMMUNITY LOOK WORSE ALONGSIDE HER. Not only is it embarrassing, it's putting others at risk. Chaos if you ever read this, which I doubt, grow up past the pettiness, and be the better person for once damn you. Tell us the fucking truth and nothing but. At this point, being honest may be the only way you can save your channel.
Also to anyone watching her, I mean it when I say there's far more mature and better role models/teachers on TH-cam. Go to people like BlueRaven666. I've been watching them for a few years now and have gained more knowledge and confidence in my abilities than anywhere else(aside from my Mother that is).
If you're looking for forums to learn from, there's this one website I frequent that I can give you the name of. It's kind of like the Wikipedia of witchcraft though, and the experienced members are trying to clear up a lot of misinformation there.
@@Zorovee I appreciate it but I'm doing well in the knowledge department these days. I even know how to use tarot cards now.
That and looking at forums or sites is usually a last resort these days for me. Not everything is accurate everywhere and occasionally people have different information than each other about things like stones or deities. There's no set agreement on this stuff so it gets real confusing very quickly. I don't like getting confused as it leads to frustration, and can then lead to emotions I'd rather keep in better check.
@@UnseelieFaelass Thats a very good point, actually. Thank you! I didn't think of it like that
@@Zorovee No problem. I know from experience as looking for stuff on Anubis was difficult. Quite a few differences in information there. I honestly should ask him instead at this point like BlueRaven does of his deities. If you're curious my list of deities in order of appearance in my life are Gabriel, Anubis, Freya, and most recently Hel(or Hela as I sometimes call her as well). Funfact about Hel actually, Freya was the one who led me to her on an astral projection trip. One that proved to be very emotional but empowering as well. I'd share more details but for now I'd rather not unless specifically asked. I don't usually make a habit of discussing my faith, path, or practices in comments unless I feel safe enough in doing so. Seen too many cases of skeptics getting onto Wiccans for sharing their experiences or simply poke fun.
@@UnseelieFaelass While I personally don't follow a pantheon, I'm glad you found your own and can forge such a meaningful connection with the gods. I'm more into the divination, astral projection, and spirit work side of things. Once I have enough money saved up I'll buy a tarot deck and begin practice. Reading only goes so far, haha
yikes.
I'm really sorry that this whole garbage situation happened to you, Jar. I've been a fan of Chaos for a while, but around 2 years ago stopped watching them. I'm only just now learning about this situation, and I feel so desgusted and dissapoined in them.
Stay strong, Jar! I'm sure that everything will turn out well for you in the end!
Honestly, I feel nothing but disappointment for Chaos. While I didn't really look up to her or anything, I enjoyed listening to the story time videos either her experiences or others submitted in the background as I worked on my art. Hell because of her I discovered Wicca as well. But Chaos being this way behind the scenes and being this petty trying to drag down people she doesn't like really leaves me with just... Well, disappointment
It throws her story times into question now.
@@Cell287 And everyone who works with her
@New Zealand Bootleg Dumbsville from 2000 nah, he was sent to this heaven place with the echidnas or some shit, he didn't actually die, just returned to where he belonged
Jeez people really just wanna start drama with everyone now, sorry this happened jar
Welcome to the internet. Where people get so bored, they start drama for no reason instead of going outside.
I forever despise people who have the audacity to lie about these kind of things. They make it VERY hard for REAL victims and innocent accused to come out. I’m genuinely sorry JAR is going through this.
If you think you found someone to be a pedo or child groomer. Please, contact your authorities first before exposing them online. That's why EDP445 was never arrested for the stuff he did.
I wish that he *was* arrested because that mess can't go on. I've already saw some videos about what EDP had said about the teenage girls and what he wanted to do to them. :(
oh hey lookie it’s my art :D
but seriously, aren’t some of you guys tired of making false grooming allegations against others?
It really takes away from victims that have been groomed for real. It’s not funny, it’s not trendy, none of that, it’s fucking horrible and shame on you for even trying to ruin another an innocent person who hasn’t done this kind of thing.
I’ve been groomed before when I was 13-17 by the same person, as someone who has been groomed before, this really hurts because it makes victims have a harder time to come out about this kind of thing.
seriously, shoo.
It could also get an innocent person seriously hurt. People understandably do not like child abusers and vigilante justice towards abusers is universally acceptable.
Good job on the thumbnail, also I couldn’t agree with you more on that statement.
@@db_524 thank you!
I'm not because I... oh nice art, BTW... I'm not tired of making false allegations because I don't do that. I just like being kind to people, but this decade proves that some people don't deserve my mercy.
It's disgusting to see what some people are capable of doing..and I think it's just unacceptable. Claiming such serious allegations on an innocent person and faking evidence is just trashy imo.
Hearing you near to tears at the end of the video, reminded me that just because you come off as unbothered and clear headed in your videos, you’re obviously affected by the things around you. I know that’s obvious, you’re a human being. I’m really sorry you had to go through something so traumatic at a young age, that adults were acting like children online to harass you, and that it hasn’t stopped even now. I truly wish the best for your JAR, I hope one day you get the apology you deserve from Chaos, and so many others.
Honestly I saw this coming. If you’re a popular channel or person in general online, it’s only a matter of time before people make these false allegations on you for literally no reason (I mean hell you were accused for murder so of course people would try to accuse you of this next).
What's odd is that commentary youtubers like JAR, Manga, and Turkey aren't usually accused of such allegations.
Wait. Murder? Wut?
@@DestinyKiller yea jar was accused of the correct term of assisted suicide
@@DestinyKiller usually used in medical terminology it can also be referred to by cyber bullying
@@wallsterrence ah, ok, thank you!
The whole thing is really sad. It’s really scary how a lot of these false allegations are coming out as of late. And for what? It really for not only for actual victims since most that attention isn’t focused on them but also to the people who are being falsely accused, since it ruins a lot of their image and trust. And all that for just petty reasons? I really do hope that the drama does end and things go well for you.
Honestly chaos has a lot of problems, The fact that she can’t admit that she was wrong says a lot about her. Hell she went out of her way to make false allegations to get rid of jar to avoid apologizing. Like this entire thing is so stupid.😑🐱
She reeks of mental illness. Which one specifically, I don't know, but it's one of them. Narcissism, maybe?
Sorry that this happened to you. No one deserves to get falsely accused of such horrendous stuff. Don't worry about me trying to witch hunt them. They're not worth it.
I'm only 3 minutes in but wowwwwww this is friggin ridiculous. I appreciate the more light hearted tone, but it seriously pisses me off when people fake this kind of thing to cancel someone they dislike.
it gets less light-hearted near the end
@@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR oof yeah it does. I'm sorry youve gone through all this bs, and props to you for still being able to confront it with poise and humor, if I were in your spot I'd probably be sobbing on someone else's livestream making a complete fool of myself.
Also, as a member of the esteemed group of JAR annoyers, I'm personally offended by these liars. It's like I'm a clown offended by the joker, like "dude, this job is about having fun and spreading joy, you're just hurting people for your own amusement. And you DON'T EVEN HAVE A CLOWN EGG, what a poser."
Why people are so attention starved to the point of MAKING UP SHEIT just to get drama rolling? Your situation, Slazo, Pyrocynical- it's just batsheit insane how ppl are willing to go that far just for some random internet clicks.
True. The issue is that online(especially on discord and Twitter), this kind of thing is encouraged. It’s mostly because it gives people the chance to unreasonably harass or openly express hatred towards a person. It’s just people bullying but they try to justify it through the lens of being virtuous.
@@taddonddat2217 That just makes it even worse.
I knew that video about your excersise as a groomer wasn't gonna age well (like cutting hair)
Because so many people have accused creators and others of being predators, and a lot of them being false, it's starting to become a "boy who cried wolf" situation, it's really disappointing. It's very dangerous for both the accused and the actual victims.
I adore your vids Jar, it keeps me from thinking 'yea I should get into commentary' because I do not think I could deal with what you deal with. Like at all.
I was groomed irl and online as a kid so people who make false accusations make my blood boil. I'm so sorry you don't deserve this
hope you're doing better now^^
@@limeyell0w945 most definitely am :) Healed a bunch
@Fu Ah People with weaponize anything these days it feels like :(
@@cyonoidmaniac6085 yay : )
@@cyonoidmaniac6085hugs and prayers to you bro hope you doing well ❤️
I'm currently working on editing the calls to remove info that's no one else's business. Should be out by Friday.
I'm so tired.
Watched your video live and......good lord Chaos and Fluffy really need to grow up and actually act like adults and get over freakin Deviantart crap
Also, by call 4......holy crap my dude, if I ever mess up and cross paths with you(which unlike Chaos and Fluffy I'm not terminally online) I should just go ahead and let you put me in my place and not LIE TO YOU or act like a smug smartass
"Then go to bed then!"
-Said some dumbass that lacks in self awareness of the situation they created.
I usually don't comment on videos like these because I just don't either one of two things, to either not cause unnecessary conflict with others who disagree or two, to not look like an idiot. But this situation is as painfully obvious where this is going as I am expecting now. So I have no fear on what to believe more on.
To not sound like I am siding with Jar just because I always go on his side, two things one, I honestly did like some of Chaos' videos she had some personal takes on. And two, Jar had made some other dumbass mistakes in the past, technically this reflects on him today, but nothing malicious, but it does show when he wants to belittle anyone he has no real leg to stand on, he made an ass of himself more times than not. Like what he did with Johnswan and Mr.Enter. For Mr.Enter that was technically Digby's video, but their takes was given little to no context for anyone not knowing who he is, it literally looks like two douchebags ganging on a guy with passion, a rather foolish passion, but a passion nether the less. But ever since I always see Jar no better than someone like Mr.Enter, mostly because he tends to be lazy and make the dumbest of mistakes, like Enter. The disabilities just makes their similarities more noticeable.
So yeah, I can admit when TH-camrs I like watching can has shitty moments and still be willing to watch more. Unlike most people, I'm not petty, well at least no where near to these people's level.
To the people who make false grooming allegations on other people:
Stop
Dude, we all support you, keep fighting, I'm not really good at this kinda stuff but you're doing great and we're all rooting for you
I use to watch chaos, for a long time. It's not like I can't believe she'd do this, it's more sad then anything. I hope this ends soon for your sanity Jar. No one should have to go through this much drama in this long of a time span.
Same as that, watched her years ago and glad I stopped watching her stuff cuz I started thinking she was odd and now I know that I was right. Still disappointing to see she isn't just odd, she nuts and spiteful.
I stopped cuz she was doing undertale shit but this is just petty. Like..are they alergic to the words "I'm Sorry"
Hope you can get through this whole mess JAR. And I hope that whoever is behind all this receives the justice they deserve.
I'm a victim of child grooming. Those who falsely accused you disgust me!
I'm sorry you had to go through that, hope you are doing fine but I know it'll never fully heal
And yes, it's absolutely disgusting; plus all of this started over freakin Deviantart "drama" when these are fully grown adults and not teenagers anymore
@@TrueBuddhaCat Thanks for your kind words.
I was also a victim of grooming and it is just gross.
@@tylerstewart6376 I am so sorry to hear that. I agree.
@@SparDanger it is okay. It took me a long time to deal with it happening.
I remember when I first started watching Chaos55t and feeling seen because she is also a witch. But the way she treated you and so many others is downright despicable and disproportionate! And she claims to be Wiccan yet the first rule of Wicca is: “An it harm none, do what ye will.” Yet she treats it like something for clout and harassed people for no gods damn reason! I know it’s best to show sympathy for your enemy at all times but as someone who is also autistic and was bullied all my life, I really feel for JAR in this situation. I sencearly hope you finally get the respect you deserve JAR.
29:42 Apparently what you “did to deserve this” was that you made the hether pack look stupid by being the only one to talk with PrincessElisabeth like an adult. So the whole thing was basically their revenge. The whole doll face thing was just the excuse that they were using to justify the whole thing.
I’m sorry to hear that you’re dealing with this shit again at least no one’s jumping the gun and believing it this could’ve gotten a lot worse but I’m glad It didn’t and I really hope things get better for you also try to stay calm and try to make as few as mistakes as possible they’re waiting for you to slip up to use anything against you also please promise me you won’t quit TH-cam because of stuff like this I really love your concert and I’d miss you if you left I know sometimes it’s hard and you feel like you have a lot of enemies from one of your allies and I hope you never give up
too relatable. i respect how you handled it, and i hate someone else fell victim to the swapping of discord names and ids and labeling it as "proof"
people who take advantage of others like this and claim its truth really devalue actual victims of abuse are literally the worst.
The fact this drama is going on for 7+ years is insane like I'm a petty person but damn. Glad the "evidence" was laughably fake lmao hopefully this won't happen again.
The internet never used to be like this. It seems since zoomers have aged up, the topic of child predators and grooming is all over social media and false accusations are everywhere. Dammit those are serious topics that are being desensitised. I have 2 very young children and I don’t appreciate any of this bs. I’m sorry this happened to you (false accusations and being framed). It’s all beyond ridiculous and you don’t need this stress. This type of thing can ruin lives and the words being used a far more powerful than the people using them know.
being a witness to the "if u want me dead" part was absolutely insane
The melodramatics
Seriously what the ever loving hell was that about? How childish can someone act?
Dear lord, I wasn't even aware of this extremely poor attempt at false allegations. This is an even worse job than what Stories did with Spoctor(Who tried to make the screenshots look real, but the results still looked shady).
It was pretty easy to spot the edits and artifacts when I made the video full screen.
Well those screenshots were real she'd selectively remove information from them.
A better piece of evidence that isn't as easily faked is a message link. Not only will it show you the original message, but also who sent it and the sender's original user ID. Faking tags and screenshots can only go so far.
@@nicestoriesnottherealstori3006 Bad wording on my part.
So when I was in high school, there was a girl in my friend group that... decided she could not take the world as it was anymore... To be honest it was sad as she was one of the biggest personalities in our friend group, always super friendly and super cheerful. She loved her boyfriend and all of us cherished her friendship. While I didn't know her, super well... at least as well as the other friends in my friend group... I did care about her, heck there wasn't many people she met that she didn't have a positive effect on.
Point I am making here is... that while I share this story, I don't like talking about it too people who I am not friends with... I want to honor their memory by trying to do the best and keeping a positive light in my life... And to use suicide, faked or not as a justification to dogpile on someone is just... Doesn't sit well with me. I really wish I could talk some sense into these kids, but I do not know them so therefore all i will do is say. JAR just keep doing your thing! I have been watching you since a little before the stories drama! You keep going and we will support you no matter what!
Grooming allegations?! Nah I cant believe it ain’t no way someone will make up lies about grooming children
Lol
Couldn't be anyone on Discord, Reddit, or Twitter
Grooming allegations, especially from discord, is just part of a normal day on the internet these days.
@@ShinNisse Discord. Of course.
Sadly it happens a lot. Spoctor, Slazo, it happens way too much.
*munching on popcorn* Damn. Leo is my kinda guy. No nonsense. By the book.
Now the fact that Chaos and one her friends is doing this is disheartening. She was one of my favorite TH-camrs due to her calm story time visit. It encouraged me to look into Wicca and other religions of that sort.
That said.....I am not a fan of what she and fluffy are doing. They are grown adults. They should know that their actions have consequences. The fact that they feel that slander was the way to go is sickening.
There was one phrase from the Bible that I recall sums up this situation perfectly.
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Now, bare in mind I understand that Wicca has no ties into Christianity. But Wiccans tend to call themselves Witches. While I'm still interested in Tarot Card reading as a mental health exercise, that doesn't mean that I'll actively lie about the fortunes I tell. Lies can be used for good, but a good portion of the time they do far more harm than good.
11:56-12:36 for JAR debunking the messages live. Maybe this can be used as a youtube clip, but this pretty much show these claims were fake.
That being said, I'm pretty upset (but not surprised coming from twitter) ppl aren't gonna watch atleast the first two minutes of this video just because of the thumbnail or the fact they despise JAR. Even if I don't like a person over their bad (past) takes, I hate false accusations like this even more.
Also, 11:08 Fluffy gotta learn to punctuate her sentences while typing. It's driving me nuts trying to read...
Aaaand same goes for the doofus who dropped the google drop in the first place. Especially when they DM'ed Lio @ 19:40 😭
this is the most thrown around accusation holy fuck
good job jar, this video and drama is now on my rewatch list. Simply because It reminds me how stupidly comical and petty the internet is. I saw this video and was so confused by the title- like for the exact reasons you later state in the video.
Kinda depressing how silly these dramas are getting- and how their outlandish plots are becoming so normal I cant tell if Im on a stupid sitcom or witnessing real life-
My God can people just give this robot a break!?!?
... As someone who was gr**med as a child... By some of my sister's boyfriends and a couple of people outside of that... I hate it when people falsely accuse people... Hell, I was called a gr**mer when I was a child... Because I was being gr**med myself by the same person.
There are people who really are bad and falsely accusing others of the stuff, doesn't help catch real ones... It makes it harder, and you could accidentally hurt or traumatize the victim in the situation!
You are one tough cookie, JAR. I'm ashamed of the people I used to watch... They are acting so childish! You are doing amazing, dude. keep up all the good work
Jeez, I can feel the pain in your voice at the end there, this is more pain than anyone really deserves and all because of one comment that ticked someone off. Sorry you had to go through all of that. Hopefully things get better for you moving forward.
Just when JAR tries to leave drama, drama pulls him back in.
I saw the thumbnail fiasco on Twitter. I genuinely can't wrap my head around this stupidity. How have we fallen this low as a species, to assume guilt by a thumbnail to a video? The mental gymnastics of these terminally online people is beyond pathetic.
When you don't like someone, you forget how thumbnails work. It's the law.
@@jordanjoestar-turniptruck That's is nightmarishly consistent. Funny enough, it's the same mental gymnastics every time, when they justify it or double down.
Sorry you had to go through all of this, JAR. Though, at least you still have your sanity in spite of experiencing so much hardship. Hope you can get some more closure when this is all over.
People keep saying "they did this for clout/drama/views" when literally the only thing that has persisted in this community is that people will do anything to snuff out a supposed threat. Even when that threat isn't all that threatening. They'll make fun of someone just purely to be in good standings with others of the same community. It's a cannibalistic mob doomed to eat itself out and go after whoever is the peak hot-button problem. They will never evolve from this.
The pain in JARs voice at the end of the video had me in tears....
same
(Warning long) This is why I'm so scared of getting into the art community and TH-cam in general. I want to be able to share my work and stuff I'm passionate about, and be able to communicate with fans. But I'm so scared I would get allegations for being a groomer or getting doxxed just because someone didn't like me. I've done some stupid stuff in the past, I used to be a hardcore conservative (I hate thinking about it, too), and said some homophobic and transphobic stuff in the past (all internalized). I regret ever doing that stuff, and it disgusts me I had a mindset like that, I'm glad I've changed and learned to accept myself and be happy for others. It's even worse because I'm about to turn 18, I barely know anything about court and law and if someone were to do something I wouldn't have anyway to defend myself, I can't afford a lawyer. I just want to be able to do commissions so I can have extra pocket money for college, all while not worrying about someone trying to destroy my life.
Best of luck to you, Robot, I hope people will come to their senses, apologize for being asses, admit to their mistakes, and just grow as people. Everything would be so much better if people would do this. Maybe one day all this will stop when people start admitting stuff, but this isn't even at its peak.
This drama could either land roughy or violently crash. People have already been hurt but if more information (false or true) gets leaked, more people are going to get hurt. There's no easy way out, but if people who did wrong would just admit and apologize, people could move on. Those who screwed up might lose everything on TH-cam, but that's better than having innocent people be falsely accused of serious crimes. I believe people can change, and they could always come back when they grown as people.
You can still make videos showing off your artwork and your drawing skills, but you don’t necessarily need to commentate about drama or anything. You can share your opinions about video games while doing fanart relating to the game. Doesn’t necessarily have to be video games you can do the same thing for a cartoons or whatever other shows or movies you like.
For example I’m going to be drawing a few images of shadow the hedgehog while I talk about my predictions for how he might be handled in the sonic three movie.
Where comes to interacting with people in the community, when saying how many people have been revealed as being two-faced manipulators and creeps it’s best not to get overly attached to people you colab with. Like don’t be so quick to label them as your best friend and be so trusting of them.
Also when it comes to alligation stuff you can get them from your own “fans“ so it is extremely important that early on if you want to be a content creator you set your boundaries of what you are not going to tolerate when it comes to your fans. Especially when it comes to minors trying to initiate inappropriate conversations with you. And if they wanna show their ass and make fun of you for not being OK with what they want to talk to you about that’s what the Block button is for.
Honestly it’s just best to communicate with people out in the open and not in private DM since those can easily be manipulated and twist a narrative.
I have witnessed so much bs I don’t dare get close to that many people online. I keep my distance especially if the person is part of the art commentary community.
Hard agree. I wanted to start a channel about art and commentary, two things I enjoy doing, but I have autism and I’m scared that may cause me to make a mistake or explain something poorly no matter how much effort I put into perfecting it. These kids are genuinely terrifying
24:06 And they live in my Hometown...
Truly a Bruh Moment.
I'm so sorry you're still going through this, especially because you've countlessly given others the benefit of the doubt and wanted nothing but validation for what you had to go through. I'm also the type of person who wants to acknowledge any pain I've caused others and have been critical of my own faults and misjudgments. I'm like this because I know what it feels like when it goes unrecognized and dismissed.
That being said, I've never seen such a malicious and thorough attempt to defame someone for something so trivial. I'm glad you have a solid support system who knows better than to take things like this at face value and know how to think critically. That sort of thing is hard to find on TH-cam, but I can't think of anyone who deserves it more.
Take care. You have my full support. I hope this is well and truly over.
As a person who has been accused of being an enjoyer of cp, I feel like I relate more strongly to accused people if the accusations don't have much proof to them so hearing that a youtuber I enjoy watching from time to time is accused of something really bad, I just feel sad honestly. Btw, just to make it clear for my situation, it happened multiple months ago and was on a small scale as the highest thing I am in influence is a discord staff member for a small discord server of about 400 people with only about 50 actually being active.
Well this makes sense, considering that aside from the situation with omnia And defnoodles , this month has been quiet, no wonder someone would make a doc at the end of july to start a Lil' drama. (And to slander JAR)
This looked like it was gonna be one mind numbing headache. Literally the whole timeline was broken and most of everyone involved was either in the wrong, or slightly misinformed
I'm so so so sorry you went through that because those type of allegations can do some SERIOUS damage to a person's life. Both on the internet and in person, so glad to see that things were brought to light and it's absolutely insane someone has such bad intentions towards you that they would go this far
Any time I see a grooming allegation thrown out on the internet, I ask myself, if this is true why not tell, oh I don’t know, the police? The people who would actually be able to do something instead of a Twitter crowd?
Most likely because they’re the same ones who put “ACAB” in their twitter profiles.
They don’t want to get cops involved, yet they still want justice?
Jesus christ. I used to look up to Chaos when I was younger and this just fucking disgusts me as a grooming victim. I'm sorry you have to deal with this shit JAR.
I hate how people just accuse someone of something heinous so nonchalantly. I saw a few comments just accusing a bunch of random TH-camrs for pro shipping and grooming yet wouldn’t even dare to provide evidence either that or they were just taken completely out of context and just plain false.
what youtubers were they?
I like when people pair pro shipping with literal grooming because in their brain , both are on the same level of seriousness when one contains actual real victims. Like mentioning someone doesn’t like to pay taxes and after mentioning he killed 5 people.
if these thing are coming these days these accusers are just jelous losers with a very empty life they really need a hobby or partner to show off to the internet keep on going my man and dont be afraid of these cowerds ❤
Someone linked me this doc because they knew I watched JAR. I actually thought it was a joke with how bad all of it was. People really don't want to leave JAR alone.
Now all of Twitter is getting mad at him over the thumbnail. I wish that were a joke. 💀
I hope they cut the bullshit and finally leave you alone. I'm also autistic, and have dealt with slander of similar nature from previously close friends, and I know it is super stressful. Everything seems obvious, but other people fall for it, and it is SO infuriating.
I'm glad they botched the hell out of this so it wasn't as destructive to your reputation as it could have been, but it's still damaging because of the people who take things like this at face value and for the amount of energy you had to spend defending yourself.
I’m so sorry about this man, you deserve better. I hope everything turns out right in the end
Well this kinda aged poorly
How so?
Hope everything gets resolved. I wish you the best of luck JAR!!
I'm so sorry that this happened to you I don't know why people always try to ruin other people's lives for no reason and it upsets me because I've always thought that Humanity should be better than that
We support you jar it clear that these accusations were made because of your video about your past and how it exposed many people for being awful humans and they are upset because you showed the truth and I can't wait to see your next vid and hope these fake accusers face justice and punishment
Another reason why social media is toxic. You have butthurt people lying about you behind your back just so they can form mobs and witch hunts on you while they’re behind a screen.
Whoever edited this video, thanks for adding the SMT 1 music in the back. Had something to jam to while I listened to JAR talk.
I feel we need to hold more people who make these false statements accountable.
This all just feels like a bunch of weirdos lying about something way too serious and not being willing to admit they lied. Trying everything to cover it up but only making fools of themselves.
It's been exactly 11 months since this situation. As far as I seen Chaos never addressed this and personally I say it's too late to come clean, unless they're not the ones who set this up, just wrong place and wrong time sort of scenario.
(I personally doubt that scenario, but there's always that possibility.)
Holy Shit man I had no idea this was going on I'm sorry for what's happening to you, bro. People like to point fingers at the weird guy because people will believe it without actually investigating it.
When you started to tear up at the end my heart sank I’m so sorry you had to endure this. I hope all this ends soon and you find happiness again.
If that is the glorious return of the Heather squad... Holy... I can't fathom being this set on ruining another person...
this is hard because ive been watching some of these art youtubers since i was a child myself and its honestly really depressing to learn all of this. i truly do not believe you deserved any of this JAR, and it makes me depressed to know that as a child i even drew fanart for chaos and loulou at one point. its disappointing and i hope you can heal from this bullshit
I haven't heard JAR this pissed since the video where TMossBoss started becoming evil. If JAR is feeling emotional over this situation then it's serious.
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Its really nuts how much these people want to throw shit at you over absolutely nothing. Chaos is really fucking crazy if she's the one behind this "which is most likely " and it's really sad knowing what she's done cuz I loved her content and art. It's really fucked up seeing how much you've been through because of these people and that it's still going on.
You deserved none of it!
Jesus I'm really sorry all this shit has been happening to you all this time JAR, this whole drama has seriously gotten out of control. I really hope things start to get better for you soon, and we're all here to support you no matter what.
So sorry you have to deal with this bs constantly. The truth will always come out in these situations, so just stay strong. Between the blatantly false allegations and the terribly edited "evidence" nobody with any actual common sense or critical thinking skills would fall for this. Not much more can be done, but I'll be praying for you man, I can't imagine how it feels to be in this position, and over something so petty from years ago.
bro can never catch a break. im so sorry JAR u dont deserve this sorta stuff.we love you
damn chaos, what the hell!? i used to watch their content quite a bit back when i was still in school and seeing how they turned out like this, shameful
Sorry that you’ve had to deal with this for so long. I hope things will start to turn around soon. Stay strong and keep up the good work.
Damn JAR Back at it again with White Vans, on a serious note though I really do feel for you dude, this kind of stuff is dangerous and people that throw accusations like this around over petty reasons just highlights how delusional they can be. I hope things start looking up for you soon
While I’m not a very big fan of your content, I’m terribly sorry for this happening to you (and the twitter people blaming you based on a thumbnail :| ). Such blatantly false accusations are truly vile, it’s like seeing a repeat of what happened to Vinny all over again.
I just want to say this. While I don’t entirely get being driven to that point over what is basically internet drama. Where you are basically anonymous and can choose to leave at anytime.
I get that due to your background of basically being shelter with limited access to other people. That group was basically as real to you as my old friend group was to me.
I was also betrayed by them as well huge falling out. So I get wanting to call it quits on life because of that.
hey dude you explained how some people can be really horrible to you, you see i had some friends online and they were racist rude and constantly harassing me and i felt like s**t. every minor insult they said to me would destroy me, i felt powerless and terrible and even considered killing myself. in the end i got through and my discord got recently raided by them, then i promptly banned them. anyways, you describe really well what some people will do to get under your skin and try to completely mentally destroy you and you boosted my confidence and overall happiness and just wanted to say thank you dude.
People cannot just leave you alone, stay strong JAR
It's disgusting people would do this to you, I've seen way too many TH-camrs I like get accused of things like this and the fact they've been after you for years really shows how pety they are
I hope you can find a way to get rid of this, either taking a break or just showing your the bigger person and I'm thankful they were easily disproven to clear your name
Good luck dude, I remember other TH-camrs getting falsely accused of things and never recovering, I’m sure the odds are in your favor and hopefully you get a pretty nice vacation from this mess of drama
As a fan of yours it is really sad to hear this is STILL happening! You have my support with this, even though it's just emotional every bit counts right? And hope this will go away very soon.