I don't even feel a slight tinge of jealousy, because you are so enthusiastic about your watches you are clearly the kind of person that deserves to have those wonderful watches.
They make a 40.5 version of this now with a fixed ceramic bezel. I know this is a really old comment but I figured I'd let you know. SBGE253/SBGE255/SBGE257 are the 3 main color schemes.
That Grand Seiko man, it's just pure watch porn! Especially when you put it up against the likes of the Marine Master and the Skx007. Both decent watches in and of themselves, but, hey, there really is no true comparison. You pay your money and you take your pick I guess. Currently I'm fantasising about Grand Seiko, devising all manner of methodology whereby I'll be owning one ( preferably the Snowflake) very soon. But that Gmt is absolutely gorgeous too! I have such admiration for what the Japanese have achieved in terms of technology and the finishing on their higher end watches it's hard to view the likes of Rolex and Omega as anything more than cleverly marketed over hyperbole. That being said, of course Rolex and Omega make very fine watches indeed, but Seiko and that spring drive technology along with the exquisite finishing on those Grand Seiko models? Enough said. Thank you very much for another enjoyable video. Take care bye for now.
If you consider Rolex and Omega as ''nothing more than cleverly marketed over hyperbole'' you clearly have no clue. These two brands are absolutely the best in terms of horology. I'm a proud owner of a Seiko Marinemaster SBDX001 and I really like this watch, but this doesn't mean Omega and Rolex are empty names. As a fact - my Marinemaster gains about 10 seconds a day, when my co-axial Omega chronograph gains 2 seconds in a month! Some respect to the great names in horology please.
TheBimmerfan Certainly not knocking Rolex or Omega as they're fantastic timepieces with a rich history , but they're nowhere near the best in terms of horology. They're still mass-produced, entry level, luxury timepieces. Just because they clearly outsell other luxury brands doesn't make them the best. Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, Breguet, Jaeger-LeCoultre, etc., are on another level.
the GS just looks awesome. I appreciate the everyday workhorse build of the Marine, but the GS is so clean and sweet. unfortunately it too expensive for my average Joe wallet, but a boy can dream ..... thanks for the comparison
Refined, good word for the GS - amazing how different it looks on your wrist when you see the diameters being so close. I love the shimmering effect of the GS's bezel too. Fun comparison. Cheers, John
if I had to choose one I'd go for the Marinemaster. It looks like a more fair watch if you compare quality and price. the GS is very very expensive. my opinion. congrats it's always a pleasure to see someone so passionate about something. I don't share your obsession but I definitely understand your passion. Cheers.
Yes, I think Seiko offers more bang for buck than their competitors at each price point. Some more than others like the MM. It really offers a lot for its cost. Cheers Ana!
No mention of the movement differences? Spring Drive is a huge differentiator! Accuracy alone is worth talking about, and the power reserve indicator is a huge plus, imho!
That Grand Seiko is just amazing! Every little detail popped out to me! I personally couldn't justify spending over 5k for a watch like that. I know I'll drop it or bump it into something. The most expensive watch I own is a Seiko SMY141 followed by a Seiko SRP621. Both are field watches which I love the look of, they do everything I need them to do without being to worried about bumping them into things.
I love Seikos. I wish these two watches were thinner. The older I get and the more often I wear a cuffed shirt, the more I appreciate a thinner watch (12-14mm).
I reckon you could wear the GS no problem, but let's face it, Seiko aren't bad at providing dress watch alternative. ;) The GS in this video is my favourite, but I'd be willing to compromise on a snowflake.
That's were I'm at right now. I'm trying to sell my MM300 to get something thinner. I bought the longines legend diver and it's 13.5 mm thick and it is very comfortable to wear.
That Grand is a fantastic watch, I never grow tired of seeing the Spring Drive movement in comparison to a high beat movement, it's just the final word isn't it? That continuous sweep beats anything else hands down. The finish on the links on the bracelet make the MM300's admittedly great bracelet look gappy and fat in comparison. This video is a great contrast of a high end tool watch and a precision luxury watch. Great video, I wish you'd spent a bit more time talking about the GS though, lots of features you didn't mention.
Love your videos bruce, think i'll sell my sumo for a mm300Could you do a review on the Gs quartz sdgv005 would be interesting on your take on it thanks and keep up theGreat work
Thanks Robert. he sbgv005 is probably my favorite GS. I love everything about it. If I end up choosing that one as my dress GS piece you'll definitely see it in multiple vids
Where did you get your Marine Master from? You may have covered it in your unboxing vid and if you did I apologize. I'm looking hard at the MM300 currently and I am looking for reputable retailers to purchase from. Thanks Bruce!
Those are beautiful watches. My questions are this: Are you satisfied rotating those two, or do you want a higher tier and do you think a higher tier would satisfy for long or would it simply be a resting point before desiring an even higher tier?
This GS is my dads and his first luxury watch. I've been incredibly happy wearing the mm most days. It's a great piece. I think I could be a minimal watch guy. Just a couple nice pieces. Sure it's fun to dream about a polar explorer or nautilus. But in reality I think my ultimate rotation would be a tool Tudor for daily use, a Grand Seiko Quartz for dress, and a few of my tier 2 and 3s to mix it up for fun on occasion. I think if you've been in the game as long as we have and depending on personal tastes I think you could be satisfied at tier 4 without needing to keep climbing the never ending ladder
+Bruce Williams I totally agree with this comment Bruce! A Tudor tool diver, that new Oris 65 2016 blue dial 42mm, Longines heritage 1973 or 54 panda for dress, few Seiko and few micro brands that I enjoy and I need nothing more!
Its not terrible, but not good. Depending on the condition of the watch anywhere from 1400-1800. Good thing is its not hard to sell, there is a customer base for it
It's just the bracelet, though. The case hasn't been touched, apart from the dents it's acquired, which look great in my opinion - it's what a watch that looks it's it's made to be used should look like :)
Sebastian, refinishing the polished centre links is easy to do by taping off the area and using a Dremel with soft polishing wheel and liquid metal polish. Or you could pay to have it redone professionally. A replacement bracelet runs for about 300 bucks on the bay.
+Bruce Williams I need to check out the marine master in person. The price is kinda steep. Grand seiko makes 2 quartz divers with the awesome 9F movement and second hand they are under 3k. Looks like they use the same claps with the ratcheting as your watch.
Correct. When you have it serviced- they take the movement out of the top of the watch. And yes it goes back to Japan. There is a place in the US that is comfortable working on the 8l35 but not Seiko certified. Servicing this watch looks to be a pain
Depends; I can so see having both. The GS bezel can't be beat, and the indices are classic, while the MM looks more purposeful and durable. The GS for special occasions and the MM for daily wear. Throw in a Samurai as a beater, and, there's your 3 watch collection, all Seikos.
its too bad that Seiko copies Omega Speedmaster on the case design and bracelet. I like Seiko but for the Money of the Grand Seiko I would get the Speedmaster. (even though the Grand has a better movement in the Spring Drive) The Original design from Omega should not be copied.
99% of classic designs are copied. Even omega is copying something older. Making improvements but copying. It's the reality even with the most prestigious brands.
Dude, if you own these watches, please learn how to say the name of the series, Prospex is pronounced "Pro- Specs" as in Professional Specifications" pronouncing it like "prospects" really does a disservice to the name being it has nothing in common grammar wise.
I was in the Market for a Tudor Pelagos, but after see this video. I'm in the hunt for GS GMT. Thanks Bruce
pro trick: watch series at flixzone. Been using it for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.
I don't even feel a slight tinge of jealousy, because you are so enthusiastic about your watches you are clearly the kind of person that deserves to have those wonderful watches.
I just ordered the MM 300 and this video really helped me make that decision, BUT, now I also want the Grand Seiko!
Gorgeous Seiko watches, great comparison video!!!
That Grand Seiko is a touch of class. I love it!
If only these came in 38-40mm... Or 42 the max. Absolutely gorgeous watches.
Agreed
They make a 40.5 version of this now with a fixed ceramic bezel. I know this is a really old comment but I figured I'd let you know. SBGE253/SBGE255/SBGE257 are the 3 main color schemes.
Awesome review! Seiko is my favorite and you are reviewing all my favorite watches. The Marine Master 300 is my grail watch.
I'm glad I could feature watches that interest you. I'm planning on doing a short 6 month update video on the mm300 soon
Great Channel and informative review. Your easy relaxed style is a pleasure to watch and listen to, Bruce. Getting my MM300 soon, thumbs up!
Very excited for you man, I know you'll be blown away by it when you see it in person. Its a beauty. Cheers
That Grand Seiko man, it's just pure watch porn! Especially when you put it up against the likes of the Marine Master and the Skx007. Both decent watches in and of themselves, but, hey, there really is no true comparison. You pay your money and you take your pick I guess. Currently I'm fantasising about Grand Seiko, devising all manner of methodology whereby I'll be owning one ( preferably the Snowflake) very soon. But that Gmt is absolutely gorgeous too! I have such admiration for what the Japanese have achieved in terms of technology and the finishing on their higher end watches it's hard to view the likes of Rolex and Omega as anything more than cleverly marketed over hyperbole. That being said, of course Rolex and Omega make very fine watches indeed, but Seiko and that spring drive technology along with the exquisite finishing on those Grand Seiko models? Enough said. Thank you very much for another enjoyable video. Take care bye for now.
If you consider Rolex and Omega as ''nothing more than cleverly marketed over hyperbole'' you clearly have no clue. These two brands are absolutely the best in terms of horology. I'm a proud owner of a Seiko Marinemaster SBDX001 and I really like this watch, but this doesn't mean Omega and Rolex are empty names. As a fact - my Marinemaster gains about 10 seconds a day, when my co-axial Omega chronograph gains 2 seconds in a month! Some respect to the great names in horology please.
TheBimmerfan Certainly not knocking Rolex or Omega as they're fantastic timepieces with a rich history , but they're nowhere near the best in terms of horology. They're still mass-produced, entry level, luxury timepieces. Just because they clearly outsell other luxury brands doesn't make them the best. Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, Breguet, Jaeger-LeCoultre, etc., are on another level.
Awesome comparison Bruce! Always enjoyed your honest reviews. In that comparison though. hands down, the MM300 wins the design contest.
Thanks bro!
I only discovered your channel today, wonderful reviews keep up the good work
Thanks, I appreciate that. Cheers 👍
fantastic video -- as usual ;) -- and great to have the scale comparison with the SKX, thanks Bruce!
Thanks! I appreciate it
Thanks for this unique opportunity to see the mythical grand seiko Spring drive watch up close. It really is quite sharp.
Hey thanks Fred
Great comparison Bruce. That Grand Seiko is definitely my new grail since I have the Marinemaster. It would be great to own both.
I hear you man!
I wouldn’t change my Marinemaster 300 SBDX001 for any other watch it’s perfect in my eyes 🤤👌
That MM is one of my grails! Your videos are awesome my man!
Thanks bro!
the GS just looks awesome. I appreciate the everyday workhorse build of the Marine, but the GS is so clean and sweet. unfortunately it too expensive for my average Joe wallet, but a boy can dream ..... thanks for the comparison
For sure Luis. Outta my budget as well, but a joy to spend some time with!
Another great Seiko review, keep up the good work! I prefer the MM300, I'd rather have a dress watch for GS and sticking to Seiko for tool watches
Thanks Alan, I couldn't have said it better myself
Can't get enough of that GS. Great comparison video. Both are great pieces:)
Definitely, thanks for watching :)
Refined, good word for the GS - amazing how different it looks on your wrist when you see the diameters being so close. I love the shimmering effect of the GS's bezel too. Fun comparison. Cheers, John
Thanks John, it's kinda crazy how different they wear/feel despite being roughly the same size. Ciao 👍
if I had to choose one I'd go for the Marinemaster. It looks like a more fair watch if you compare quality and price. the GS is very very expensive. my opinion. congrats it's always a pleasure to see someone so passionate about something. I don't share your obsession but I definitely understand your passion. Cheers.
Yes, I think Seiko offers more bang for buck than their competitors at each price point. Some more than others like the MM. It really offers a lot for its cost. Cheers Ana!
Great comparison vid Bruce enjoying a new channel look forward to checking more of your content
I appreciate that Marcus!
The MM300 is a true beauty. I cant get over how beautiful it looks
Its a stunner
Great comparison! Thanks!
Your welcome 👍
No mention of the movement differences? Spring Drive is a huge differentiator! Accuracy alone is worth talking about, and the power reserve indicator is a huge plus, imho!
That Grand Seiko is just amazing! Every little detail popped out to me! I personally couldn't justify spending over 5k for a watch like that. I know I'll drop it or bump it into something. The most expensive watch I own is a Seiko SMY141 followed by a Seiko SRP621. Both are field watches which I love the look of, they do everything I need them to do without being to worried about bumping them into things.
I wish more watches had the crown at the 4 o'clock. It makes the watch more comfortable, especially on my bony wrists.
Definitely, Seiko is the brand that offers the most 4 position crown. Very practical!
I love Seikos. I wish these two watches were thinner. The older I get and the more often I wear a cuffed shirt, the more I appreciate a thinner watch (12-14mm).
So true, I wish they did as well
I reckon you could wear the GS no problem, but let's face it, Seiko aren't bad at providing dress watch alternative. ;) The GS in this video is my favourite, but I'd be willing to compromise on a snowflake.
That's were I'm at right now. I'm trying to sell my MM300 to get something thinner. I bought the longines legend diver and it's 13.5 mm thick and it is very comfortable to wear.
That Grand is a fantastic watch, I never grow tired of seeing the Spring Drive movement in comparison to a high beat movement, it's just the final word isn't it? That continuous sweep beats anything else hands down. The finish on the links on the bracelet make the MM300's admittedly great bracelet look gappy and fat in comparison. This video is a great contrast of a high end tool watch and a precision luxury watch. Great video, I wish you'd spent a bit more time talking about the GS though, lots of features you didn't mention.
I did a separate review of the GS my friend
Bruce, im thinking about getting this GS. The newer edition 211. I already have the mm300. Does it wear big? Or smaller than the mm300? Thanks.
I have a Seiko Prospex MM300 SLA023J1 with llue dial! It's my first watch that I have payed SEK 25900. I like it alot, and I only use that one.
The GS is absolutely stunning ❤️ i love both but the GS does it!
Love your videos bruce, think i'll sell my sumo for a mm300Could you do a review on the Gs quartz sdgv005 would be interesting on your take on it thanks and keep up theGreat work
Thanks Robert. he sbgv005 is probably my favorite GS. I love everything about it. If I end up choosing that one as my dress GS piece you'll definitely see it in multiple vids
Where did you get your Marine Master from? You may have covered it in your unboxing vid and if you did I apologize. I'm looking hard at the MM300 currently and I am looking for reputable retailers to purchase from. Thanks Bruce!
That grand seiko is just gorgeous, I love the marine master also bit that grand is just another level
Those are beautiful watches. My questions are this: Are you satisfied rotating those two, or do you want a higher tier and do you think a higher tier would satisfy for long or would it simply be a resting point before desiring an even higher tier?
This GS is my dads and his first luxury watch. I've been incredibly happy wearing the mm most days. It's a great piece. I think I could be a minimal watch guy. Just a couple nice pieces. Sure it's fun to dream about a polar explorer or nautilus. But in reality I think my ultimate rotation would be a tool Tudor for daily use, a Grand Seiko Quartz for dress, and a few of my tier 2 and 3s to mix it up for fun on occasion. I think if you've been in the game as long as we have and depending on personal tastes I think you could be satisfied at tier 4 without needing to keep climbing the never ending ladder
Good points. When I get the Seawolf, my collection will be 7, a bit high, but not too bad.
+Bruce Williams I totally agree with this comment Bruce! A Tudor tool diver, that new Oris 65 2016 blue dial 42mm, Longines heritage 1973 or 54 panda for dress, few Seiko and few micro brands that I enjoy and I need nothing more!
Sounds like a great collection Trevor
Incredible video! Beautiful watches! Wouldn't mind either ;)
Haha good comment
Both of them are king
That GS is wonderful!
See you sold the sbge001 on watchuseek. Wondering if you'd share what you sold it for... I'm looking at a preowned one.
thanks for the video
Your welcome
The dial looks so much bigger on the GS. I guess because of that thinner bezel. I like the MM better tho. It's so chunky and what a cool clasp.
Its true, and the MM has a fairly small dial for the size I think. Cheers Marc
Seiko MM300, Awesome watch!
Awesome review and video on both watches . Like the marine master much better though 👍🏻
I prefer the looks of the MM300. But it is chunky.
awesome watches I love them both.
well made video thks.
Your welcome
Do they make the Grand Seiko without the GMT complication?
I have both clocks and I like them very much :)
This channel is going places !
Thanks Simon 👍
thanks for the great comparison, Bruce!
Does the MM fit under a shirt cuff?
no its pretty tall. When I wear it with a dress shirt I have to unbutton the cuff :/
what's the resale value like for MM. is it any good? does it retain its value?
Its not terrible, but not good. Depending on the condition of the watch anywhere from 1400-1800. Good thing is its not hard to sell, there is a customer base for it
hello from Germany. i would love it if you can show how to replace the original bracelett of the Marinemaster and how to shorten it
Cheers Raul, I'll add that to the list of videos to make
The GS GMT is an awesome watch ....
I like the marine master
Cheers, I do too
Um, I said
Man sorry to hear about the poor polishing! The factory finishing is one of the best things about this watch.
It's just the bracelet, though. The case hasn't been touched, apart from the dents it's acquired, which look great in my opinion - it's what a watch that looks it's it's made to be used should look like :)
Sebastian, refinishing the polished centre links is easy to do by taping off the area and using a Dremel with soft polishing wheel and liquid metal polish. Or you could pay to have it redone professionally. A replacement bracelet runs for about 300 bucks on the bay.
Préfère SEIKO 300m, original et exceptionnel
What was the Grand Seiko model number?
It's the sbge001
Bruce Williams Thanks
quick link to feelings 3:25
I have a 6" wrist, does either of them goes well with on small wrist? great review btw. makes me want to sell my kidney to get one of those
lol yeah they are pretty inciting! I would say they would be uncomfortably large on a 6" wrist, and would recommend you look at some smaller watches
MM for me.
Its hard to beat
The main thing is the spring drive movement. The marine master will not give you that kind of accuracy. I prefer their high beats tho.
True, the spring drive is amazing. I really like the hi beats as well. To be honest I like all the movement types GS offers haha
+Bruce Williams I need to check out the marine master in person. The price is kinda steep. Grand seiko makes 2 quartz divers with the awesome 9F movement and second hand they are under 3k. Looks like they use the same claps with the ratcheting as your watch.
+ripperx444 yes I love those sbgx's! Your right though the prices are steep even used. I'm dying to try out the new $1000 transocean
+Bruce Williams www.seiyajapan.com/collections/divers-collections/products/seiko-prospex-200m-diver-solar-sbdj013
I have been looking at this one.
+ripperx444 that one looks good. I've never bonded with titanium before but I like the design and I'm sure the quality is solid
I actually think the MM300 looks a little better.
The MM cannot be opened through the back to be serviced and needs to be sent to japan? That's what I hear.
Correct. When you have it serviced- they take the movement out of the top of the watch. And yes it goes back to Japan. There is a place in the US that is comfortable working on the 8l35 but not Seiko certified. Servicing this watch looks to be a pain
The MM300 looks better, dude.
Depends; I can so see having both. The GS bezel can't be beat, and the indices are classic, while the MM looks more purposeful and durable. The GS for special occasions and the MM for daily wear. Throw in a Samurai as a beater, and, there's your 3 watch collection, all Seikos.
nice to see the american silver eagle haha
haha I throw those in the view sometimes to get a sense of scale. Plus they are an awesome design
I can easily wear the GS...if somebody buys me one.
MM looks super cheaply for 2000 USD watch !
My MM300 is getting +15/s a day
Ugh thats awful! Old model in need of a service?
Kris Kunisch, I have tried your method, lay the watch with crown facing up for a few days, now it is about +5sec a day, Thx.
Bruce, I bought it in Japan new on Jan 2016, but It is a SBDX001 not a SBDX017.
"it's a little chunky"
No it's fucking huge. Very cool but not something I could ever wear daily.
It is a big watch
I'd love to see the MM300 versus the Orient Saturation Diver... I suspect it would look pretty svelte in comparison.
That would be awesome
GS how much?$$$
Too much for me.
2 totally different watches
its too bad that Seiko copies Omega Speedmaster on the case design and bracelet. I like Seiko but for the Money of the Grand Seiko I would get the Speedmaster. (even though the Grand has a better movement in the Spring Drive) The Original design from Omega should not be copied.
99% of classic designs are copied. Even omega is copying something older. Making improvements but copying. It's the reality even with the most prestigious brands.
Literally incomprehensible argument.
What?
What drugs are you on? They are nothing alike, in any way.
Dude, if you own these watches, please learn how to say the name of the series, Prospex is pronounced "Pro- Specs" as in Professional Specifications" pronouncing it like "prospects" really does a disservice to the name being it has nothing in common grammar wise.